rule 49 the Sergeant at Arms sets forth the following rules of conduct. Good morning, everybody. Happy Monday. The committee on finance is called to order. We will now have a roll call to establish quorum. Vice chair Conway alderman laspata Alderman Hopkins Alderman Mitchell Alderman Harris Alderman Beal Alderman Lee Alderman Ramirez Alderman Quinn Alderman Lopez Alderman Moore Alderman Curtis Alderman OSHA Alderman Rodriguez Alderman Scott Alderman CEO Lopez Alderman Ervin Alderman Talia Farrell Alderman Cardona alderman waguespack Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez Alderman mitts Alderman spaz Alderman Vasquez Alderman Reilly alderman kutson Alderman Martin Alderman Silverstein chair dowel is here. We have uh, 17 present in the chamber. We do have a quorum. Alderman viegas Alderman Taylor Alderman Ramirez Rosa Bernett Mosley and Hall have requested to remotely participate at today's meeting for reasons stated under the provision of rule 59. Can I have a motion to allow these almond to attend the meeting by remote means so moved by Alderman Lee all those in favor of the motion signify by saying I post and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and the motion carries. I'd like to confirm alderman viegas. present Alderman Taylor Alderman Ramirez Rosa Alderman brunette I got you Alderman Ramirez Rosa Alderman brunette. Alderman Mosley Alderman Hall At this time, we will begin the public comment period the public comment period will be limited to 30 minutes out of respect for everyone's Time Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. Um, we do not have anyone that's requested to Res to speak remotely. So we will begin with uh, Teresa TJ Hughes Good morning, Madam chair, good morning. And uh Alderman, my name is Teresa TJ Hughes and I am here on behalf of advocating for black contractors women, uh and men and also for small businesses. I am caused today to um ask in regards to a hundred million dollar. Uh contract that was supposedly allegedly, uh, given to the city for Street work underground pipe work and whatever 500 million and out of that only 9 million was assigned to Black contractors. So I would like to post to the chair. And to the ottoman that are here what the heck is going on? We need to first of all get rid of Eileen Velasquez. I've been saying that for like, I don't know how long I've been coming up in here because she is the procurement Chief procurement officer and is her duty to be right by the people the people are not just Hispanics, you know, we have Asian people we have black people we have uh other kind of people but right now my my main concern is about my people And we have been here forever. You know, they built this country on the backs of our ancestors and we just want to fair share. So the the 2% I'm addressing that to the black Alderman here. Why are you a not checking Miss Eileen on her numbers? Why are you not going to her saying this has got to stop. So if it can't stop we need to get rid of you. So I think that you've had plenty of time to call her in where is she? They say she's gone, but she's not gone. She's actually on paid. Administrative leave being paid by the city taxpayers and she's still working from home as if she's in the office. They need to cut her off. Take her keys. Boot kick her out of this on on lale street so that everybody can know that the city of Chicago does not allow people to mistreat its citizens. That was my comment today. Thank you very much. Miss Madam chair. Thank you. I'd like to acknowledge. We've been joined by Alderman Ervin and Alderman Vasquez, and we'll be counted towards Quorum. Our next speaker is Mark Hiller. My name is Mark her. I'm an advocate for parks. Parks create community Parks enrich the health spirit and knowledge of kids through seniors. What city fee has not changed in 26 years just 1. Open space fees. for quality of life parks open space fees are paid by the developer of 4 profit dwelling units an apartment a condo a single family home. This is city ordinance, uh chapter 16-18 approved in 1998 and a quick summary of the fee. Formula is for Progressive size classes of dwelling units Studio. 1-bedroom is $300 2 bedrooms. 3-bedroom 900 Uh single family home large apartment condo 1,200 that fee hasn't changed in 26 years. But cost of parks, uh new open space construction of parks has soared just by inflation. So revise open space fees, it's actually open space impact fees assessed on new residential development eliminate the flawed Citywide flat fee policy instead open space fees not impact fees, but just fees will be a fixed percent indexed to the median property value in each City neighborhood. USF index to property value in each City neighborhood accounts for the large differences in land cost and affordability among neighborhoods and adjust for inflation. As you know Park Core areas tend to have low valuation and less development especially less for-profit development. Hence Less open space fee acral the inverse occurs in developer active expensive city neighborhoods, which is where the vast majority of 4 profit new dwelling units are created. So those developers in those more expensive areas of the city should be paying a higher fee because land costs and cost of new park development is several fold higher in streeterville Lake View Lincoln Park compared to Anglewood, Austin. Dale Etc So the idea is index open space fees to median valuation property assessment determined by the Cook County Assessor of residential dwelling units in each of the Cities 77 official neighborhoods in the previous year. As of index to relative valuation in each neighborhood accounts for large differences among Chicago communities and the assessor the Cook County Assessor already determines City neighborhood valuations for property taxes. We don't pay flat fees for property taxes. They're indexed evaluation. Thank you, Mr. Her. Our next speaker is Jessica Jackson. to start the Okay, so this weekend they had the Illinois African descent citizens reparations Commission too bad. Justin Ervin is waddling out of here. So they talked about our reparations package. and of course, it was a bunch of fluff, of course, it was a bunch of you know, Clown talk another dog and pony show, you know kind of like the 500,000 reparations that y'all talking about giving us for a study out of a 16.4 billion dollar budget, you know that type of nonsense, you know, but the main thing that stood out is that it was too Alderman that attended Alderman Yancey. And Alderman Gilbert of Belarus if I'm saying his name properly if I'm not I'm sorry. He's a nice guy anyway. so when they introduced yansi you know about 5 people clapped and so of course I booed and when he heard the boo, of course, you know he And he ran and left. So when I turned to my left a few minutes later, that's when I saw all the men Gilbert velatis. I'm probably saying this wrong anyway, so a couple of seconds after he saw that I saw him he left. So of course my mind is wondering like why are they here? This is a black reparation study. So why is why here who didn't declare being Haitian? And why is Gilbert here? Because nothing in here has anything to do with him. But then what really stuck out to me is how they ran and that put everything in perspective about City Hall. and that made me understand that that's why when we're talking you all talk you, uh talk to each other ignore us because you don't have the skill set to deal with black America's problems what you have the skill set to do is to run and flee from your country. You don't know how to deal with confrontation. You don't know how to solve what you know how to do is let America act like they're doing something benevolent by talk taking care of a bunch of immigrants before they can take care of their own. And so that's the thing. So when you all do things like this. That's nervousness. That's a a form of not being able to deal with problems. That's what people that flea do like Rosana Rodriguez how she ran out of here. Thank you, Miss Jackson. Um Alderman Ken is joined us and will be counted towards Quorum. Our next speaker is George, Blakemore? There is something else and the b word. Yes. They are something else. They they start when they get ready. I have the B at the door. They go this man over here work from the shell on call. To put me out they are completely out of control and they racist. And they're angry Mamas and they sell out all of the Black 1. the white ones the Hispanic and I can't say that about the 1 a Uh, Miss Lee, you know, everybody has a pick. But anyway, but I'm just beating that the door Bam Bam Bam Bam open the door, and then you you have this over here and when my 3 to be seated, but you locked me out. You locked us out. Because you didn't have a car you are a piece of it. and It's start with s. You are all of you all of you. The black ones the white ones and the Hispanic the Democratic machine now, I I sell on the street. They say Mr. Blakemore. You better not keep wearing that red hat people won't buy from you. I don't give a damn. I'm wearing it. I want you to clear this out. I know that trumps are racing they say buying this is is too but I'm going with Trump on my way to Freedom land. And I urge all black people to get off of this Democratic machine get off of that train. It's not leading us nowhere and we we got black faith in high places selling us out. Elected elected officials. This is I always say worse than a communist system a fast a dictatorship you all of this gracious God bail bail. I'm trying to break into a public meeting why you didn't have a cold? And you you you you you wasn't on time you was on n**** tag. Uhuh. We can have black people and we have white folks. We have H you was on Back Time. You can pay to be on time. You've been paying to have a car on here don't you know that you are a public scraper? You serve us. We don't serve you something is wrong here. Come by here Trump. Turn it red. Turn the real red because the Democratic machine is not working for black people. We got black all from Black come here. Thank you very much. Our next speaker is Wallace Gator Bradley. Like to add Alderman Mitchell to our Quorum count today. like to say, uh Good morning. chairman This August body. I didn't think neither 1 of us was going to make it today after I saw that storm last night. I'm here for something. That's very profound. I've been speaking on this since 2016. And that is why are we paying private attorneys? to defend corrupt officers, they were engaged and framing individuals or torturing the individuals to end up being wrongfully convicted I saw in the news story on July the 11th. WTTW what he talked about this police officer Ronaldo Barrera. I hope I'm pronouncing his name. Where the city paid private Law Firm 35 million 35 35.7 million to defend him. Knowing he couldn't win the case. I'm here speaking today on behalf of a case, which is Mark Maxon. Rose is the city. If they found out by DNA that he didn't commit the crime. They also realized that he was wrongfully convicted he end up getting a certificate of innocence and the 1 Thing. I want to share with this body. That's a case that you're not going to be able to win. because the family of the victims have closure because the individual that committed the crime got caught. And now he's doing 50 years. So you can't win that case. and hopefully the new corporate Council will look into that case because uh from what I read from the court papers. They ready to come to some type of understanding. and chairman with you being here now and instead of broke being here. I know that you're making your Autumn and aware because I've been hearing good things about you educating the alderman. To what's been happening when they didn't know. What was happening before I want to? Salute you I want to salute this body. and I hope Mark Maxson get some justice and y'all stop paying them private lawyers when you get a law Department. Thank you. Thank you. Our next speaker is Alex singer? Um, good morning members of the finance committee. My name is Alex singer and I am the research manager at the Metropolitan planning Council or MPC. MPC is a 90 year old independent nonprofit planning and policy organization that addresses built environment issues through an equity lens. We focus on Housing Community Development Water Resources transportation land use and planning. I'm here on behalf of MPC to support the department of planning and developments proposed medium and large Capital grant program improvements. We believe this proposal will support the city's efforts to Center equity in and increase the speed of neighborhood investment. MPC has long recognized that allocating resources alone will not materialize the vibrant Equitable City that Chicagoans Chicagoans vision and deserve it is critical that government has processes policies and capacity to support these investments in a thoughtful and responsive way. This has become clear through our leadership and we rise together a collaborative working to achieve community-led investment and economic development at scale and communities of color across Chicago. We have seen first hand. The challenge is that projects face around access to Capital and navigating regulatory requirements? through uh, the proposed improvements will reduce barriers for project applicants support small businesses and Workforce Development for a critical Gap in access to Capital through the allocation of pre-development funds and overall support more Equitable investment in our neighborhoods. The inclusion of standardized criteria enables applicants to better Orient their projects toward shared priorities will improving transparency around funding decisions. These changes will support the city and more expediently dispersing funds and building trust as we collectively pursue a better stronger and safer, Chicago. While this proposal is a strong step in the direction of equity and PC also wants to ensure that these improvements achieve the desired outcomes. We are concerned that the ordinance change that expands the neighborhood opportunity fund to include industrial or manufacturing projects creates a potential opening to fund projects which may be environmentally and socially harmful, although we do do not believe this is the intent of the proposal MPC recommends that limitations on the types of projects industrial or manufacturing that can receive resources be imposed through dpd's rulemaking Authority and that there are clear links to selecting projects based on criteria that explicitly Center Equity considerations. We appreciate dpd's implementation of a single application and scoring rubric for large projects in 2022 and the substantial increase in Community Development investment over the past few years in partnership with city council the improvements proposed today Advance the city's ongoing efforts to streamline development processes to better support neighborhood economic and Housing Development particularly in our underinvested communities MPC offers strong support for this proposal and looks forward to supporting the city of Chicago as it makes transformative Equitable Investments across all our neighborhoods. Thank you. Our next speaker is Ruben Sanchez. My name is Ruben Sanchez and I'm here because of the bad behavior of police officers in the union willing to protect them. The union should be paying the bills for any bad behavior of the police officers, but that's not what happens. The people have to pay for it. There's a case number in the federal courts 21 seavey 2887. That the city is trying to seal. In this particular case a man named Alfonso. Kassaris was arrested by a police officer named Lewis Garcia who is Garcia cuffed the man put him in the backseat of the car and then began choking him. I have that video. If you attempt to seal this or pay out for this to be sealed Alonso kassaris is dead. He was murdered 3 months after Lewis. Garcia was fired Lewis Garcia at the present time is in the Daley Center trying to get his job back. instead of being convicted to where he can't wear carry a weapon the city's the citizens of Chicago are going to be forced to pay for this corruption. What I do is call it a Christian in a position of power. They cowered under color of Law and then cite immunity. No, man should be released when they're they're proven of bad behavior. And attempting to to to to seal this case, that's bad behavior. I'm leaving documents. I had asked Ruben, uh, Rebecca pallmeyer a chief judge in the Dirksen building to address this case. She refused to address the case and she's I I I I'm the consent degree. Trying to cover up and seal this case on the consent degree. I believe because she refused she was forced to draw. She's no longer a chief judge. She couldn't be a chief judge as of Friday. Don't agree to pay out this Force the police Union to pay. They're the ones not firing these bad police officers that police officer beat me. They told her jury. He didn't see this. A judge wouldn't let them show the police report in the in the circuit court or the federal court judge the judge Chang Chang in the federal court Edmond chain refused to allow me to tell the jury what they've done on the fifth page of the replacement report and refuse to show the jury the police report. I got 17 seconds left that's good enough for me. I'm warning you. Like to I'd like to acknowledge that we've been joined by Alderman Rodriguez Talia Ferrell Silverstein and Curtis. Um Alderman brunette I see that you have your hand raised and we have counted you towards quorum. Our next speaker is Taiwan Sims. Good afternoon committee. So with a budget of what 16 some billion dollars. Now they talk about a 538 million dollar budget Gap and we consider that. So to think about what? He spoke about last week. And the last meeting was a 400 and something dollar. I guess. The tax, I don't know cost towards our immigrants or our new arrivals. However No consideration towards what's going on in Black Chicago or the with the black Americans here in Chicago. For an x amount of weeks what the last 8 weeks we've noted that at least. 8 people have been murdered over the weekend or with every coming. News news report is like it's getting worse more and more Devastation in our communities with no consideration towards it and you wonder why. But then that gentleman just came up he was talking about. Um Community Improvement or whatever and how they've been at it for the X amount of decades. To what Avail what if we gained in it, but I guarantee that you all finance that um initiative or that organization. Y'all put money in and they supposed to I guess direct that money towards as he says the marginalized communities those low those disinvested communities black communities, Austin, Englewood. Rose land these are our communities which are seeing no investment. We disinvested. Devastated and disrespected that's what it is. And it's a Continuum of consistency for the last amount of years. So this not just now and the guy named is Gilbert Villages. He was just in a meeting about money. Once again for what reason like you said for what reason these people have a Heritage or they speak about other things but they not weighing in on what should be weighed in on and that's the fact that black Americans are here are being devastated. basically undercut so much so that we being cut off so much so that we being murdered out. And everybody paying like their oh, we we that's that's it's no problem. It's no problem. We're just going to continue putting into our new initiative because when you put 400 and something million dollars in a something, I guarantee you that's an investment. Anybody can tell you that so they invest in them their new thing. Forget the fact that black Americans have paid into the taxes forget the fact that black Americans have footed even that bill. Forget that forget forget us. And it's it's starting to snowball more and more starting to become more and more radical. We got what's his name on Perez in here? He's smirking and smiling like, uh plight is a joke. Everybody else is a joke. But it's not our next speaker. Thank you very much. Our next speaker is Zoe lelay, and I want to acknowledge all them and see you. All Lopez is joined us and we'll be grounded towards quorum. My name my last name is Lee l e i g h Le not lay not low not leak. All right. So, um, you know, it's my favorite meeting. So I see y'all about to um cash out over twenty million dollars for the police Um you always you always ready to pay out for the police. But yeah, I don't ever want to pay out for y'all public corruption. And that's the crazy. Like that's the thing. I don't understand. Uh, I don't know if you guys watch the news this morning, but the Trump case that was in Florida was dismissed because the prosecutor violated the US Constitution. And that's what's going on in my case. The city of Chicago violated the 5th and 14th amendment in my case Bradley Wilson law lawyers over here. That's about to sit here and tell these people how much and they vote for this 20 million dollars for the for the CPD Bradley Wilson is my corporate Council lawyer on my case. Right? And he didn't do his due diligence when it came to fighting for the city of Chicago, which he should be barred and that's what I'm working on. So I'm letting y'all know. that this is going to stop the public corruption is going to stop it's it's it's going to stop. Okay Trump is going to win by a landslide. That's just what it is. Whatever happened on Saturday it it happened and that's just what it is. The there's no democracy on either side. So it really doesn't matter. It's we're we're in Hunger Games at this point. Um, but what the city of Chicago needs to understand is that this is local this is not federal. So I really could care less about the federal. I'm on y'all ass because at the end of the day you guys need to do right? This is you've been in here pat down for a long time. You know how P how public corruption is it keeps going and going and going and going. Okay, the brand Administration comes in. I don't care. He's going to be a 1-time mayor, but at the end of the day, when is the public when are you when are you guys going to step up and do the right thing? They're telling they're still in properties from blighted areas. Y'all are still in Tif money. From blighted areas going to the north side like this 1 on the first first Ward with banana man. Y'all about to give them over, uh over over a million dollars for the elementary school when you know that we have elementary schools and our in our communities that are now shelters for the migrants. So like just y'all. Yeah it it doesn't make any sense. Y'all are puppets is that we have no black representation. Y'all do not you do not care about Us and it's just sad, but y'all are going to be voted out. Y'all are going to be voted out. I mean y'all may not care. I know you're not even coming back and that's good. So since you're not coming back Pat down, I need you to do due diligence as a public servant and have them figure out my thank you very much. Um, the any the last speaker is Doris Lewis. Good morning, Madam chair and good morning to this body. My name is Doris Lewis. I am a retired teacher and counselor with Chicago Board of Education. As a teacher I would have my students make presentations. and whenever my students or students would make a presentation. I would demand that every student listen. Not get up and walk around in the classroom not talk to their peers but to listen. And what I'm seeing in this body is really disheartening. It's depressing to me. It's hurtful to me because as the city we are in trouble. We're having some serious problems in this city. We have an illegal immigration problem that you have spent out over 400 million dollars. To the detriment of the black community. It's decimating the black community. So as an answer to some of these issues that we're facing in the black community. I have put together a contract with black Chicago. I did it in 2023. This contract is about the various City departments CPS Chicago Police Department environment. And in each of these departments black representation is way below its percentage in terms of our uh, P 29% population in this city. So I'm going to be asking some about Alderman to introduce this as an ordinance so that we can try to stop the Carnage that's going on in our communities our children black children at the rate that things are going are not going to have a future everyone in here is looking out for the future of their children and I don't have a problem with that. That is what you're supposed to do. But black Alderman and the black community. We have a responsibility to look out for our children. So I'm saying in this contract if we're 29% of the population Hispanic for about 29% I think whites about 29 30% according to the 2020 census. So what we're asking is that we have representation of 29% in all of these departments. Department. That is only fair that can stop the racial issues that we're having in this city. This is a beautiful city. I love this city. But what I see now is absolutely frightening to me and we have to stand up for our children and our communities as everyone else is standing up for theirs. So I hope when we present this contract we can get Alderman to support us and Alderman Ervin. I'm very disappointed with you you come in and you're talking and you're being disruptive right now you're standing in the back. That's not fair. We are taxpayers. Give us respect when we take our time to come down here and talk to this body because that's what I'm going to do to you all. I'm not going to thank you very much. This concludes our public comment period thank you very much. the committee received written public comments from the Metropolitan planning Council and support in support of the uh, medium and large Capital grant program improvements. We received a letter from the sustainable Englewood initiative. In support of the cdbg urban shelter program and also 1 from the Chicago Parks Advocate and Logan Boulevard skate park advisory Council. Both of those were requesting a revision to the open space fees to develop new open space and Parks. We'll begin our meeting this morning with the approval of the June 2024 monthly rule 45 report, which was sent electronically to everyone is if there are no questions. Can I get a motion to recommend approval of of that report? Um motion made by Alderman Ervin all those in favor signify by saying I Opposed in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it. We have 8 items before us today, um on our agenda, we'll start with the first item, which is from the Department of Planning and Development. It's an ordinance concerning the authority to enter into and execute and intergovernmental agreement with the Chicago Board of Education for the provision of Tif funding Tif funds for the improvements that Jose De Diego Elementary Community Academy, which is located at 23001 West Potomac Avenue in the First Ward. The amount is not to exceed 1.4 million. We're joined today by Sean newart director of facilities and capital operations for the Chicago public schools and Jamal Chambers the intergovernmental Affairs liaison to the city council for the Chicago public schools. Good morning. morning chairwoman Good morning, chair and members of the committee on finance. Um for the record, my name is Jamal Chambers city council liaison for Chicago Public Schools. I'm also joined by Sean Nord our director of facilities for CPS as well as Tim Jeffries managing Deputy Commissioner in Department of planning and development. I'm here today to request your approval of an intergovernmental agreement that would provide Chicago public schools with up to 1.4 million in Tiff assistance, um for a playground in athletic Court area for D Diego Elementary School. Here's a map showing the general location of the project within the city. The project is located at 23001 West pamic Avenue and the West Town community area and ended in the First Ward. It is located within a humble park tip District. Here's a map showing the here's a map showing the general location. Sorry. Here's a view of the current conditions of the area. The proposed improvements were served de Diego and neighborhood Elementary School serving 528 children from pre-k to 8th grade and would also solve serve the local community the project includes replacing existing natural grass with a new period in place Weber surface playground or 2 to 5 year olds and replacing the existing absolute, um payment areas with the athletic Court area and would include basketball and pickle ball courts draining infrastructure and the storm water, um, detention system and miscellaneous site restoration is also part of the project. If approved the intergovernmental agreement with authorized up to 1.4 million in t assistance, which will finance the entirety of the project. The area site plan shows the existing area of the location and its proposed improvements. Here's an illustration of what the new playground and athletic Court area might look like completion of the project is scheduled for fall 2025. I would also like to indicate that we do have a letter of support from Alderman the spata, um who shares the project is exists within his work and he also shared 306% of the TIF district. We also have an additional letter of support from all the person. Um, Jesse franchise franchise who shares 62% of the TIF district. I thank you for your consideration, um of this request and I'm happy to address any questions that the committee may have All right, Sean. Do you have anything to add to this? Uh know, it's Jamal covered everything. Thank you. Um any questions before we go to alderman laspada? alderman laspada Thank you so much cheer. This is something actually that we've been. Cooking up for a couple years now de Diego is a school. That is all Hustle the work that they're doing to bring in new students to really expand what they're offering to the community is fantastic. But when you have the kids you're trying to bring in our preschool kids if you don't have anything for them to play on hard for those families to feel like the door is open for them to spend time here. So that's what kind of the Genesis of what this came out of in terms of the pickle ball courts. Folks love to play with the ball that is pickled. And so there's already this activity happening at the school whether the facilities are there or not. Our community is loving this and so being able to bring this to them means a lot. Always glad to see the not to exceed always happy for not to exceed but we always try to set a maximum budget and then work down from there. If that number feels a little eye popping to folks, but I'm really glad for it. I'm glad for the collaboration with CPS with dpd and I do ask my colleagues favorable consideration. Thank you chair. Thank you. All I did see that Alderman. Uh, Taylor had her hand raised, uh, forgive me Alderman Taylor. I didn't see you first. It's okay chair medel. Thank you. Can you tell me if there are any private dollars raised on this playground and how many daycares um or other facilities around this playground? Because that's that seems like a pretty high price. Um for equipment and I just want to know who is it just the schooling use what? Because this this type of money investment needs to be spread it around. I'm sure I've seen cheaper playgrounds and I'm not here to not to not see young people get what they need, but I would be interested because y'all going right out the tip dollars. To a playground. Thank you Alderman Taylor Alderman laspada. Yeah, I'll let I'll let CPS way on this as well if they want. But uh all the women Taylor this is a community very well served with both young families with a lot of daycares in the community. We have a lot of folks who uh, you know that a little toddler trains you see in your community. Well, this is a very well-utilized playground that we want to be even more well utilized in terms of the rest of the facilities that we're talking about. I mean last year when we were doing our back to school fair at De Diego, it's Diego, it's actually well suit you, uh situated in the center of the ward. There are folks out there playing pickle ball a year ago. Um, just like bringing out their Nets to play there and so There are very few times that you can create facilities that whether you're 2 or 20 or 40 or 60. You're going to see the whole Community utilizing them and that is absolutely the case with what we're proposing here today. Uh, thank you CPS. You want to ask to her question about uh private dollars? Um, so this project is completely funded um through Tiff there are there's not any CPS investment in this project. However, I will indicate that um within the past 10 years CPS has invested approximately 25 million dollars into um de Diego Elementary School. Thank you Alderman Talia Farrell. Um, thank you madam chair. Uh, I I do support this project and in fact, um, we just recently had um the play lot, uh, Redone in 1 of my Chicago public schools and uh, it has made a world of difference, especially for the um, the elementary students that attend that school. Um, it was torn down. It was very dangerous actually. So I certainly appreciate uh, the project and all of the Spotless Ward and um, I know the children will get a great use out of it. Um, but I just wanted to publicly put on record that we're still waiting over at George Rogers Clark for some improvements, um with that school as well that are very, um very much on the same level as as being unsafe for some of the students that attend that school so I look forward to speaking with you on that. Thank you, man. I I know we've had conversations regarding um, the requests for improvements at Clark. Uh, we is it is on our radar and we are working, uh to put together a plan. Uh, we should have a response, um, relatively. Um, so I appreciate it. Thank you madam chair. Thank you Alderman Talya Ferro and I just want to say Sean. I'm still waiting for the answer on uh, improvements to the Playground at Mollison Elementary School, okay, you were to get that back to me and I haven't received it yet. Got it. Is there a motion to recommend approval of item number 1 on the agenda? So moved by Alderman Scott recommending due pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and we will report the due pass recommendation out at the next city council meeting. Thank you Sean, and thank you Jamal. Thank you number 2 from the Department of planning and development is development is an ordinance concerning amending chapter 16-14 of the municipal code regarding the neighborhood opportunity funds. Um for this presentation, we'll be joined by Tim Jeffries managing Deputy Commissioner for economic develop development in the department of Planning and Development. Good morning, Tim morning chair. And we want to acknowledge Alderman Hopkins has joined us for Quorum. Uh Ah, thank you and Alderman Haden has joined us as well. I I before you start Tim. I just want to thank everyone who attended the briefing on this topic. Um, it was very well attended from members of the city council, and I just wanted to acknowledge that. Tim right, uh, yep, good morning chair dowel members of the finance committee for the record. My name is Tim Jeffries managing, uh, Deputy Commissioner in the department of Planning and Development. Uh, I'm here today to request an administrative amendment to section 1614 of the municipal code in order to make changes to the neighborhood opportunity fund program rules or group 2 grants receiving more than 250,000 dollars in City funds. Uh, the purpose of dpd's request is to implement 2 high-level programmatic changes that will address long-standing operational issues and improve overall outcomes. Uh, I'll provide a detailed description of both but at a high level they are uh number 1 consolidating the multiple sources of capital funding the dpd manages into 2 distinct programs that have a unified set of rules and requirements regardless of the funding source you they are using uh, these will be temporarily named the median program for projects receiving between 250,000 and but less than 5 million in City funds and the large program for projects receiving more than 5 million dollars in funding. The specific revision to the municipal code is necessary to align nof program rules with the proposed medium program that I will provide details on shortly. Uh, the second is the creation of a pre-development grant program that will provide grants, uh for promising projects that need funding in order to incur pre-development costs necessary to advance the project, but that have access to Capital issues. uh, this program was initially authorized this past April with the approval of the uh, housing and economic development Bond, but this legislation will additionally, uh allow nof funds to be used for that purpose to ensure more resources are available to projects on the south southwest and west sides. Uh, in order to discuss why these changes are needed. Um, I'll provide a quick overview of dpd's administration of our current current capital grants programs, uh, currently the Bureau of Economic Development administers a series of capital grants that include the bond funded Community Development Grant or CDG program the neighborhood opportunity fund or nof program, which is funded by the downtown density bonus and the Tif increment financing or Tif program, which is funded by incremental property taxes, uh, each of these is nominally administered as a separate program, but they are all extremely similar to 1 another in both purpose and use specifically they provide Capital Grant funds to private developers in order to rehabilitate or construct commercial industrial and mixed-use real estate development projects. Uh, the similarities are are beneficial since it means rarely having to rely on a single tool. And in fact in recent years dpd has implemented a number of operational improvements that sought to leverage the similarities, uh to the benefit of applicants that included eliminating program specific applications in favor of a universal application which uh reduced barriers to entry because applicants are no longer, uh needed need to have an understanding of which funding source is the best fit for their project. Uh, this included the uh, the development of a standardized scoring rubric that makes reviewing projects quicker and easier than it has ever been in the past, uh, We additionally, uh, moved funding allocations to a round-based structure in order to increase predictability and awareness of the programs by establishing a a regular interval of deadlines and applications. Uh, and finally we we made a whole series of internal improvements that were made with an eye towards streamlining and simplifying dpd's internal review and approval processes as a whole. Uh, I'll say that the combined uh effect of these changes has been significant and the clear improvements to both the program metrics and outcomes can be seen on this map of projects awarded since 2022 when the first of these improvements were implemented. Um, some of the benefits of this has been. Um, the first is that since the implementation of the universal application the number of annual average application submissions to dpd has increased by nearly 600% since 2021, uh with more applications DPE has also, uh, it has far more projects in our pipeline that are being advanced. Since 2022 the city has uh name approved or awarded 86 total projects for a total of 340.7 million in City funds. This is an extremely sharp increase over the recent past, uh for context the combined number of projects over the 10 years preceding this meaning from 2012 to 2021 was just 66 projects as compared to 86 from 2022 to current uh, the impact of these projects is significant and is estimated to result in a total of 1.1 billion dollars in the in in uh, neighborhoods throughout the city of Chicago, but critically, uh, these Investments are being done in in an very Equitable manner more than 75% of the projects are located in community areas on the city's South southwest and west sites. Uh, despite these successes. There is of course always challenges to be addressed and more improvements that can be made and the things that dpd currently believes are among the most critical are defined, uh in red on the left side. Uh the first excuse me, excuse me. um, I would like to ask the uh, sergeant-at-arms if they could clear out that hallway because it is annoying. To be able to hear that noise in here while we're conducting business. Um, as I was saying that the the the issues that deeply dpd believes are the 3 most current critical issues are in on the left hand side in read the first of which is the dpd currently administers each funding source as a discrete and individual program. But funding sources are not in and of themselves programs programs have defined goals objectives and things that are meant to be achieved but a funding source is not these things. It's just money money is obviously important and needed for projects to fulfill their goals. But the way that we currently administer programs makes that the singular most defining feature of these programs. It should the focus should be rather on what these programs are meant to do. Uh, the Second Challenge is that while current capital Grant programs do have strong similarities including a shared goals uses and processes. That is not alignment. Um and misalignment can create real communication and operational challenges an example of what I mean, uh for communications is that in recent years dpd has announced finalists for our round-based Awards as Community Development grants, but individual projects may actually be funded with CDG or nof or Tiff regardless of which the study City funds are generally used for the same purpose. But the Nuance of having 3 programs, um, simultaneously announced creates confusion and and uh dpd staff spending more time on explaining the technical differences between these individual programs and internal processes rather than actually solving problems or helping to promote the success of the projects and the programs themselves. Uh this lack of alignment also negatively affects dpd's operational effectiveness offsetting rules means that the projects cannot be reviewed in the same way. This limits dpd's ability to strategically manage the city's assets to the most, uh, effective degree possible ultimately resulting in either delays or fewer projects altogether. And the third and final challenge mentioned is while uh dpd's changes to the review processes have been successful. They also require projects to have a rigorous amount of due diligence in order to be successful. Uh, we are aware that such Readiness has a real Financial cost and the securing things like architectural designs business plans or zoning changes can be expensive. Um, too many applicants. However, particularly ones on the south southwest and west side struggle to access Capital necessary to fund these pre-development costs and as a result strong Concepts that offer the the chance to impact to affect real change never Advanced beyond the conceptual stage. Um while these issues are collectively not insignificant dpd believes that they could be addressed by the 2 program changes previously mentioned the consolidate our funding sources into 2 distinct programs and to launch a pre-development, uh grant program. Uh, I'll provide more detail about both of these. I'll start with the medium program, uh, this table details the high level terms of the existing Capital Grant programs, which are labeled as CDG nof and Tiff the upper half shows the general terms of each program while the allowed uses are on the bottom. Um, even from a quick scan of this you will be able to see that while there are similarities. There's also very clear discrepancies the amount of funding for example varies widely between all 3 programs CDG providing up to 5 million dollars and 75% of the total project cost and of however only provides 2.5 million or 50% of the total project costs. Although it has the community wealth bonus, which is the only only program that does that allows it a pathway to get the 75 and Tiff meanwhile has no limitation on either the total amount provided or the percentage provided and in the lower half you'll see that the you'll see that the allowable uses generally aligned between CDG and Tiff, but nof doesn't allow for either residential industrial or social service. so in order to bring these into true alignment dpd is proposing to use the most effective components from each individual project or program. And marry them together into this proposed medium program, which is identified in the dark blue column. This program would be Source agnostic and able to use whatever funds may be generally available and legally feasible with grants ranging from 2 to 250 dollars to 500 million, but limited to no more than 50% of the total project cost that said this program would retain the community wealth bonus concept. Uh and provide applicants who live on the south southwest and west sides an opportunity opportunity to receive as much as 75% of the total project costs. This would allow dpd the flexibility to rightsize Awards by providing funds as either a loan or a grant while still providing, uh benefit to applicants to select on how it disbursements are going to be provided to them as either a single payment of completion or construction Milestone. Um, finally the uses would be aligned across the board to generally allow any legally allowable use on the site with the biggest limitation being that the uh, any residential unit would have to have more than 10 10 10 units in the development in order to trigger Aro and ensure that any project that receives City funds will have at least some affordability on site. um while projects would be subject to this framework, um, certain sources specific requirements would continue to exist this map attempts to show that uh 1 of these would be that uh, projects would have varying funding options, uh, based on their geography which is shown here, uh with the approval of the housing and economic development bond in April all locations throughout the city are now at minimum eligible for bond funds, but nof and Tiff obviously have their own rules. And uh that that that affects what sources are available location 1 on this map for example would have access to bond funds but no other sources location 2 is within within the nof programs qualified investment area and would have access to that program while 3 is in a TIF district and has access to those funds 4 mean is in 4 all 3 geographies and has access to all 3 sources. Um, even if the if the medium project or program is approved today this Dynamic will not change likewise, all of the requirements of the Tif program for example will have to meet the requirements of the Tif act the biggest change is the dpd is attempting to move the technical and legal elements of these. To the uh, 2 DP staff who are subject matter experts on this and remove the burden from the applicants. uh, and just to put even an even finer point on this for location 2 specifically, uh, that is eligible for uh bond funds and nof but under the current program rules, if we had an application that requested more than 2.5 million dollars in City funds and had residential industrial or Social Service uses. It would not be eligible for nof. If the proposed medium, uh, framework is approved. It would be eligible for either nof or Bond because the ordinance would increase the maximum Grant size and expand the allowed uses. And this is what I mean about, uh, having alignment rather than similarities alignment allows dpd to identify the source of funds that make the most strategic sense rather than what is simply available. Um that will ultimately broaden the impact of the program and provide more benefits to the communities. Uh, in addition to medium dpd is establishing requirements for oil are temporarily calling the large program for projects requesting more than 5 million. The general terms of that are in the right-hand column, uh, this program would use both bond funds and Tiff but not nof. Uh, since the relatively limited availability of those that programs funds mean they have a greater impact focusing exclusively on medium scale projects and unlike medium. There is no defined limit on either the total amount of funding that can be provided or the percent of its budget instead projects will be subject to underwriting and a gap analysis performed by PPD that reflect the unique market conditions of that project's uses and locations. These findings will be presented and reviewed by city council as is currently done. Uh in general the know the large program is expected to have a larger amount of negotiation over terms, but will also be subject to a much higher degree of scrutiny. Uh, all that said we understand that process is just as important as structure. So I wanted to highlight how that will work for these programs in general dpd believes that our current view review process has a proven track record of success, and we're not proposing major changes to it. With flowchart reflects how this currently happens for the medium program, but it is generally applicable to the large program as well in all cases. It starts with the submission of an application and when that happens we immediately notify allders of these of the submissions and request their input on a project and the potential impact it might have on their Community after that applicants applications are screened multiple times by multiple dpd staffers. Who were Review score and rank applications to create a list of project the dpd recommends advancing through the process. It is only at this point does dpd consider. Uh, uh the most appropriate funding source, that should be matched to a Project based on its specific requirements. Um after dpd identifies potential projects and the proposed funding sources, these recommendations are once again reviewed with the subject Alders in order to uh, identify any potential issues with either the project or the specific use of uh, specific source of funding. uh, if there are no issues and in my experience those issues are relatively rare then projects, uh, subsequently announced as finalists begin to move through the due diligence phase and and uh with the goal of executing an RDA and beginning Construction. Uh, I'll I'll quickly provide a a an overview of this of the pre-development grants. But um as I previously mentioned each round dpd receives many applications that represent strong ideas, but are just that ideas, uh, in order to become a project they need further development and due diligence in order to establish the overall feasibility of the concept. This could include things like architecture design and Engineering zoning, uh, Environmental Studies perform a business planning and feasibility studies or even just basic project management. Without these things a project is unlikely to move forward but in the parts of the city with the greatest need the challenges around access to Capital of often make that an impossible an impossibility. To address that dpd is launching a new program that will provide up to 150,000 on a reimbursement basis, uh to to to projects in the pre-development phase. This program was already authorized uh with the with the approval of the bond, but this ordinance would allow for the use of up to 5 million dollars in nof in order to ensure that those parts of the city, but the greatest need to have the have access to additional resources. Um, so that is the general. The 2 General programs we're proposing and how they will function, uh, in terms of implementation dpd's, uh believes that if today's ordinance is approved that they can both be rolled out in short order for Capital grants dpd intends to formally launch both the medium and large programs in mid August, uh, which includes the publication of the full, uh, list of program rules on the selection criteria on both the dpd website and the city's rules portal. Uh, I'll say that this timing is critical in order to establish the revised rules in advance of uh, the rounds opening back up for the first round of funding in 2025. Uh, we want to have a clean set of new rules for applicants. So there's no confusion about what what rules are and are not in effect. Uh likewise the first awardees for the pre-development grant are expected to be announced before the end of this year. The dpd will review applications submitted as part of our our currently open funding round for those Awards, uh with the projects, uh announced concurrently with our other major major funding awards at the end of the year. uh, all that said dpd feels confident that if approved these legislative amendments will result in demonstrably approved improved outcomes that will have a substantial City impact on a Citywide basis the realignment of current capital grants and to a Consolidated and comprehensive program and the launching of a pre-development, uh program will accomplish all this by further reducing barriers to entry and expanding access to funding, uh, improving program awareness and the visibility of successes, uh, maximizing the impact of City funds through greater asset management and addressing key access to Capital, uh challenges in the areas, uh of the city that are most impacted by them. Uh, I'd like to thank the committee for your favorable consideration of this request and I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. Thank you. Uh Tim that was the very detailed. Uh, Presentation and we'll start with questions from Alderman laspada followed by Alderman Moore. Followed by Alderman viegas. Thank you so much chair admittedly. Most of my questions were answered during the briefing but I had 1 question that came up. Could we go back to the slide? That looks uh, Nof Grant Tiff. Uh, here we are. Yeah. There we go. I'm so curious. I should have. Asked this during the briefing, but I'm curious. Can you talk about what the local residency bonus is? on We were on the right side. There. It is, uh on the medium Grant and why we're not applying it to the large. How does that function to? Uh, the medium Grant, uh, The community residents bonuses that if you are if if you are an applicant to a project and your business is within the qualified investment area, which is the the area of persistent disadvantage that has been identified by the community and you yourself live in that area. Meaning that you are, you know, you live in the area in which you are investing those parts of the city just their subject to Greater just investment and they need we believe they need more funny. They need more funding, uh than other programs, uh and projects that might not be in those areas. So we're providing a pathway to provide more. Um, it's not part of the large program because there is no cap as there is with the medium program. Um, so we will underwrite the project. On a gap analysis basis and yeah, that's that's it. Got it fascinating great idea. Thank you, sir. Thank you chair. Thank you Alderman. I will go to Vice chair Conway. Madam chairwoman, um first question is and and I think the answer is no but just double-checking the is there any effect on the 10% of nof funds that stay with the ward or neighborhood as a result of this adjustment none? and will this um Will this program have any effect on the uh on the LaSalle Street projects that have I know they haven't yet come before this committee, but does this program seem to have any effect on those? No none. Okay. That's all I have Madam chairman. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Jeffries as always for your excellent presentation. Thank you Vice chair Conway, Alderman Moore. Thank you chairman. Uh, first of all, um, I want to say I want to thank you, um chairman for the briefing. Um, it it was informational that was you know, because it was so uh, a lot of information it was some a bit confusing but given the opportunity to read deeper because you provided the information. I appreciate that so much also, I think it's a asset. Um, and I know sometimes I just got to say this in terms of you being the finance chair because of your um, knowledge and your historical background and housing it gives me some comfort because I I trust and seeing that you know, you will push back on things that are not um good, um for um communities and and I'm confident that you vetted this, um, well enough and I appreciate that so much, um, also, um with our uh, new commissioner, uh dpd as I suggested with CPD, uh, someone that has a focus on development when they need the certain tools, um that they say that will work and that they need to operate from within our communities. Um, and then go and explain more in detail. I appreciate that about um, commissioner bolt Wright and she was able to do that. Um for me as well and so, uh, this is something I totally appreciate uh from a the standpoint and I got to say to you Tim you've been accessible and um, very is orderman, uh, just a chairman indicated detailed not only in the briefing but also, um here today which was very helpful. Um, um, But I want to make sure I don't know if something's are let me first ask the question about retroactive. There's nothing in here that can we can be retroactive to I'm thinking about and I think you all remember we gave a nof to tatis floor. I'm just using her as an example. Um young lady who um live in the ward was running a flower shop out of her house doing good doing very well and um has decided to open which would be the only flower shop in the 17th Ward. um Community, um, she put up her money, um purchased the property through the Cook County land bank and then apply for nof which she got but was struggling with some of the pre-development stuff. So this could be retroactive in that case. Could it um, if meaning can we review her project? Meaning can we review an old project for this new funds? I I think as a general matter. I I would I would like her to reapply but we would not we wouldn't have to you know, but she's already got I'm in money. That's to help her and then I see what you're saying. Uh, right. No, I don't think we're in that case. We can review it retroactively. All right, and and thank you so much. I just want to ask that question at the end. Um what I like about the tears you're talking about when I look at um, blue Azul and I want you to make sure and you I think you're familiar with blue Azul. Um, I'm hoping this would help them. I think they've been declined for sure 2 times but I think 3 times on um, some of the funding but again someone else who has put skin in the game on a lot that's been vacant for well over 20 years. They put their money up first, um purchased it spent money on Architects design and all that and going through the process. I think they've been rejected 3 times probably for some good reason and getting better at each 1, but I want to make sure that we're Titan people like that who have who who are from the community who's investing their own dollars not just coming out with a hand, you know their hand out but investing and showing good faith and what they want to do for projects that the community want and but by looking at the um, the criteria here, I think that'll work better probably for him next time around and I'm I'm hoping so so, uh, definitely I you know, no blue Azul, um and and and continue to work with them and hopefully we can get them through but this also opens the door for what I've been pushing on 69th Street between Ashlyn Damon but we talking about when there's projects that city-owned vacant land which is about 70% of those vacant lots are city-owned vacant lands and helping those developers. Um, do that as well. So I appreciate this and I and I hope all of my colleagues, um will support this tool and helping us redevelop, um the community because it's not just about the South and West as when we do this. Um, I'm a strong believer when you build um, it helps deal with the violence issues it puts people to work and they takes care of problems throughout the whole city of Chicago. So this type of tool will um continue to do that. So, thank you and I truly support this. Thank you. Thank you Alderman Moore and I might suggest that uh, I have when I've had a project where there's been some deficiencies in the package. Um, I've been able to take that developer and his team to meet with members of the Department of Planning and Development to go through and very clear detail what those deficiencies are. So you might want to just hook if you haven't done that already. Um, they're they're very good at that. Um, we will go to Alderman viegas followed by Alderman waguespack followed by Alderman manah hoppenworth if there are no other committee members that have questions Alderman viegas. Thank you madam chair and thank you for the briefings and Tim. Thank you for your presentation. Just have 1 quick question. Um as it relates to um, are there any labor protections or standards that are used in scoring a rank or the ranking system during the application review process during with this modification? um, it's a requirement that all of our projects have Labor, you know, they have City construct City of Chicago construction compliance requirements so that they must do City residency. They must do uh, uh prevailing wage. They must do mbew be so I I think I guess we we generally take the approach that it's a non-optional for every single project that we're doing. So you must do it therefore. It's it's not a it's not a direct consideration of our it's more of a a requirement on the back end Okay. So this is already this is part of the process. Okay, and then you guys are monitoring this or is this fall into procurement know we we monitor this uh directly all of the projects in in coordination with the Department of housings, uh construction compliance, uh Bureau. Okay. Thank you. Thank you madam chair. Thank you. Alderman viegas alderman waguespack. Thank you chairwoman. Uh Tim, um, you had mentioned, uh, kind of walking through this, uh, you know what people with the proven track record of success and multiple staffers review it. Um, when when we look back to 2016 when nof first started What's um, what's been the success rate roughly of nof projects in the past? If you don't have it on hand, we can get it through the chair. I have it for large projects. Um Over from 2019 to current um, and if you want me to go back further I can get those. Um, so there's been 28 and this is nof specific. Uh, there's been 28 total n n n large projects meaning up above 250k, um of them 1 2 3 7 of them have been uh, uh withdrawn or terminated prior to to construction, uh, and then we have uh 4 that are fully complete and probably another 4 or 5 that are actively in construction. Oh, you said or complete or fully fully complete, um, which is indicated by the issuance of the certificate of completion, which there's projects on this list that I would say are under construction. I'm calling Under Construction, but they're active and open and operational. They just do not yet have the CFC. So for the other, uh, 12 or so are do you hold that uh money and sort of an escrow that we intend to give that funding to those PE to those large projects or if somebody else comes in with a better plan they can um we We we hold on to the money. And as long as there's demonstrable forward progress, then we hold on to the money. If they fail to meet that then we will take steps to either resend the grant or have a discussion about whether they themselves will withdraw from consideration. That's where those 7 were either terminated or withdrawn. Um, and at that point we put the money back into the pot of General nof availability, and we will redeploy it to to for projects in future rounds. Okay, um if you could get that through, uh, 2016, that would be helpful. um, just kind of want to see the success rate of these businesses that um go through completion the ones that are under construction and then uh, it would be nice to know how many of withdrawn or terminated um since 2016. Yeah, I'm happy to provide and could you do that on the medium too? Uh Small you mean small? Yeah, uh, yes. Thank you. Thank you madam. Chair. Thank you. Alderman waguespack Alderman Mana Hoth Thank you madam chair. Thank you for the briefings and thank you Tim for your work on this. Um the 48th Ward includes agent on Argyle and we have many vacant storefronts 20 plus um, and that's just 1 of our business corridors. I had a question firstly about um eligibility. It says cultural uses are churches and Faith organizations eligible for these know, um to the extent that they have Like if it's a church use proper know but to the extent that it is a faith-based organization that has a publicly accessible, uh, like generally open to the public, um, like component to it. We would consider funding that like if a church has a a consignment store or if they run a a community center that is open and available to anyone in the community regardless of the status of their faith and then yes, we would consider it. Does it have to be um, identified as a not for profit got it. Uh, no, Oh, they don't they do not need to be identified as a not for profit. Uh, I we we have projects that are both not for profit and for profit, so it's not a uh No, it doesn't necessarily need to be a for-profit use within like a profit generating area for the for the for the church. We would accept things like in the most recent Round We announced the this Austin Community Center. Um, the the lead is Stone CDC, which is an explicitly faith-based organization, but it's a it's a medical facility that is anchored by Rush and thresholds and then they have a coffee shop and some office space. So even though that is a faith-based organization that's backing it. It's very clearly. You know open to the public. Got it. Thank you. And then um regarding the Uh pre-development grants, which is awesome. Um, I do have a question. though if I have a question because seed money is hard to come by and so this is a reimbursement program. Write a grant. Yeah. Um, if If they don't qualify for this program because they don't have that kind of capital to invest in the pre-development of their ideas. Is there something else? Um, We're going to be working. We're going to be taking steps to ensure that that issue that you're talking about is not a problem. I mean, I think that first and foremost the reimbursement we're going to try to skinny it to a short as possible and then um 150,000 dollars is it's not 5 million dollars and so like the that is an amount of money that we will be able to work with our um colleagues and our partners that with cdfis to to be able to figure out solutions for that in a very like Programmatic way rather than like a a 1-off project by project because project by project for lenders. It's very very different. This is slightly different. And so we're going to work with with um with those those Partners in order to make sure that there's a we're solving for the issue that you're flagging. thank you, and we have a You know in our Public Schools, we have over 40 languages spoken. We have many of our small businesses. They're owned by locally, um locals and um language access is important to us and to me, um fortunate because we have Chambers of Commerce that are very involved and I I um, thank you for working with our Chambers of Commerce in in that way. Um, but I understand that your application's have shot up and so I'm just wondering in the case that Chambers need help and share Dallas said that your department also helps directly with people who need help with the grants. Um, are you can you talk about language access and the um ndpd. Um, I think that so it once we have all the materials presented we're going to try to have a we're going to have we're going to my goal is to put it on our website that has the the translate functionality. So there's that we'll also be translating. Um, the the materials the print materials into a set of you know, Common the most common languages, um, the application we're also even willing to have it in other languages as well. Just the reality of the limitations of my staff and what they do speak is that submissions will nearly certainly have to be required to be submitted in English. We just don't have the ability to to um, I don't have the staff who's bilingual in in a number of different languages to be able to do that. Yeah, I see that generally as an issue across the city. But um, I'm interested in seeing how we can improve that because uh small businesses, um are important in the 48th Warden across the city and language access is a barrier. Um, yeah, can you just speak up a little bit? Yes, thank you. Um, I would like to work on language access with this department and others across our agencies, uh, especially in my ward where we have many languages spoken. Um, of course, Asian Argyle, but also we have Just a variety of languages spoken. We would love to have more um accessibility and maybe we can talk with the um, With other committees because it's a it's an issue. Um Yeah, I don't I don't have the answer. I don't have a question right now. I'm just a little bit frustrated with that. But thank you. Thank you chair. Thank you Alderman manol hoppenworth Alderman Rodriguez Thank you. Madam. Chair just a quick question. Uh, uh. Tim just on the application increase very impressed with the number uh of Applications increasing. I'm just curious. I I was looking at my email. I couldn't find it. Do we have that breakdown by that those percent increased breakdown by board? Uh, I can probably I can pull them. Yeah, I don't have them immediately available. But I have I I can figure out the I can figure out something. It's it's just such a good data point. I just want to see where the city's at. Where where the that that increase is coming from just to uh, you know delve that into that deeper, but this is a great effort. I appreciate um, the explanation and the briefing You said you get that to us, right? Yes. I'll get you I'll figure it out up. Thank you. Figure out the breakdown. Uh, thank you and we'll make sure that every uh, I think that through the chair request that all the and wagers back is making which is related to your request as well. Um, we'll get that to everyone. Uh, uh Tim, I just wanted to say that I appreciate the department of Planning and Development streamlining the program and making it more consistent. Um, I would just recommend that the next uh level Of attention is on mostly on the large program where the underwriting is subject to the discretion of the department. I would really like to see the department come up with some general parameters about why something is this percentage of the total development cost versus something higher. Um, just so that when you come before us we have a better rationale for why those decisions are how those decisions were made. That's future work. Um, seeing that there are no other questions. Can I get a motion to recommend approval of item number 2 on our agenda today? So moved by Alderman laspada recommending do pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and will report the due pass recommendation out at the next city council meeting item number 3 on the agenda is the resolution concerning the authorization of the Chicago Department of Housing to submit application for the Community Development block grant Corona virus. Urban shelter program issued by the Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity. Uh, there are 2 locations in this particular project 1 is at 1622 North Carolina in the 26th Ward, and the other 1 is at 8913 South Ashland in the 21st Ward. We're joined today by Meredith, Mr. of the Chicago recovery plan manager from the Department of Housing and Frank Zoo senior recovery manager Grant operations from OBM. Good morning city council members of echo. Thank you to uh, chair Mandell, uh, and the members of the committee of Finance for having us. We hope you're having a lovely Monday morning and we're here to present to you on the cdbg-cv that stands for Community Development block grant Corona virus Urban shelter grant application for resolution Um can move on to the next slide. So a little bit of context for you all and uh city council. So the state of Illinois through the Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity, uh code named dceo posted a 1-time grant funding opportunity called the cdbg-cv urban shelter grant, uh program and the focus of this program is to develop non- congregate shelters in urban areas to spend coid relief dollars that were issued to the state through the federal government. Most notably the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. On this to that end the city of Chicago through the Department of Housing will up. Um submit 2 applications each worth 2 million dollars each for each, uh plan shelter site, which will be a total of 4 million dollars of State cdbg funds to help cover Gap financing for the non-congregate. Filter program projects as a line per the nofo that stands for notice of funding opportunity. The following applications are being proposed listed below. The first 1 is 8913 South Ashland, riha, uh rehabilitation in partnership with unity parenting and counseling Incorporated and the second application is 1622, North California, uh rehabilitation in partnership with lacasa Norte. The grant notice of funding opportunity requires that the applicants for these seek authorization and a resolution of support from the late legislative body of the city, um in support of the application to be considered for funding so a little bit of background about this grant, um, in february of this year dco posted this 1-time funding opportunity to essentially fund non-congregate shelters and Acquisitions Rehabilitation construction and other Capital Improvement activities for shelters in urban areas as a way to spend down coid relief funds issued by the federal government. this opportunity is specifically for Capital infrastructure improvements and to supplement existing funds and projects that exist. Um with up the maximum award for each Grant is $2 million and local governments are eligible to apply and these funds must go towards shelter acquisition and rehab that support positive Health, um, and well-being outcomes as related to the co 19 pandemic. The nofo or notice of funding opportunity requires that applicants also seek authorization from the legislative body of the applicant in order to be considered, um for the grant additionally, um, there's also a requirement around public a public hearing which has already been run and uh Community engagement regarding both shelter proposals have already taken place, um in partnership with each of the respective authors offices, Um, I will pass it to my colleague Meredith to speak more towards a specific program and the project scopes. Thank you. Frank uh For the record of Meredith Muer with the Department of Housing. Can you hear me? Yes. Is this working? Okay, there we go. Um, thank you chair dowel and finance committee for having us here today as Frank mentioned. Uh, we have been working on applications for the state's DC dceo Urban shelter grant because of the size of the grant funding opportunity, uh here, um in partnership with OBM Doh dfss, and the mayor's office. We worked to determine shelters that are amid the Doh non- congregate shelter acquisition program process to submit for application to this opportunity. So as a reminder that program is aiming to transition approximately 300 congregate shelter beds in the city's shelter system into non- congregate settings across multiple facilities in partnership with dfss. Our intention is that this program, uh focuses on Capital expenditures for acquisition and Rehab of new properties to be used as non-congregate shelter this model follows the model of Hotel 166 which was a a non- congregate shelter during the height of the co 19 pandemic that proved through study that outcomes for people experiencing homelessness were improved both on the health front and uh in terms of long-term permanent housing Uh based on the sort of setup of non-congregate shelter, which is US sort of. Single or small group of people staying in a room as compared to a large number of people living in a single room. We selected do selected grantee finalists through an RFP and to date 1 of those grantees has closed on their new acquisition the other 4 accounted for are in the middle of the acquisition zoning and due diligence processes based on the criteria of this grant opportunity and the size of funding and funding available. Um, we are proceeding with applications for 2 of those 4 grantees for additional funds through this grant opportunity to support the renovations for their project through the snowfall. I will give a quick overview of the 2 projects that are being proposed. The first is at 1622 North Carolina. The grantee finalist is La Casa Norte. Uh, this will be a shelter for youth experiencing homelessness youth aged 18 to 24. Uh, lacasa Norte will be speaking to established 43 non-congregate shelter beds in this new space. They have completed Community engagement and partnership with Alder Fuentes, uh office at the beginning of this year. They are planned to go before the zoning board of appeals this month for special use for transitional shelter. They are seeking to acquire the site before the year is out. Um, and if a word of these funds construction would take place in 2025. Uh, there's a sort of tentative budget, uh on the screen at the moment. We would apply the million dollar Grant if awarded from the state towards the construction costs for this project. The second site being proposed is at 8913 South Ashland with our grantee finalist partner Unity parenting and counseling. This is in the 21st board Washington Heights community area Alderman Mosley. Again, this is a Youth Shelter. Um. This was sort of happen stance and not intentional but both shelters are being proposed for uh youth they'll be planning to establish a 27 non-congregate shelter bed count, uh space in this new facility. similarly at the end of last year Community engagement was completed in the 21st ward in partnership with alerin Mosley this this project plans to go before the zoning board of appeals this fall. So in 1 of the upcoming couple of sessions of this the zba. Planning for acquisition either at the end of this year or early next year depending on timing and alignment with this grant opportunity and construction next year. again, sort of a tentative as it stands today budget with the goal of this 2 million dollars of cdbg CV State funds if awarded going towards the construction costs for the project. In terms of benefits for Chicagoans. I talked a little bit about this briefly, but this will result in both improved and increased shelter bed capacity across the whole non- congregate shelter acquisition program the city expects to see shelter capacity increase by up to 60 beds. Um, With the goal of this program transitioning existing shelters into new spaces. The sort of added beds comes along with the spaces and buildings that are being um procured through this program. I mentioned this before but previous research on non- congregate shelter has shown that there's been reduction in things like blood pressure blood pressure and blood sugar levels, uh, increased initiation, um on medications for mental health and substance use and increased connections to Social Services. Uh residences, well, we're connected to long-term housing at an increased rate in comparison to congregate shelters. And the the goal of this increased shelter bed capacity and outcomes means that there's a reduction in the number of people staying in places that are not meant for human habitation and improved long-term stability for people who are served by a shelter providers. Or requested action here today is approval by this body for the cdbg-cv urban shelter grant resolution that authorized do to apply for the funding from the Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity to support Chicago's experiencing homelessness. Thank you. We're happy to answer any questions. Thank you very much. We do have letters of support from uh, Alderman Fuentes and Alderman Mosley on this project. Uh, seeing that there are no questions on this Alderman Curtis moves due pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and this item will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Thank you very much for your presentation today. Item number 4 is a proposed ordinance authorizing the payment of various small claims against the city of Chicago. This is the direct introduction. Um, and that list of payments was sent electronically to everyone if there are no objections. These will be placed in the Omnibus item number 5 is uh, miscellaneous the proposed ordinance denying the payment of various small claims against the city of Chicago again, this was a direct introduction and the list of payments was sent electronically to everyone if there are no objections. These will be placed in the Omnibus. We will move to item number 6, which is for 4 proposed orders authorizing charitable solicitation on the public way tag day permits. Um also with direct introduction from the Illinois State Council Knights of Columbus Charity Citywide for september 12th through 15, 2024 and september 19th through 22 2024. We also have tagged day permits for the National autobahnd Society, uh for July 17 2024 through June 30th, 2025, uh, and the American civil liberties Union Citywide for August 1st 2024 through December 31st, 2024 and finally Planned Parenthood Federation of America for August 15th, 2024 through December 31st, 2024. If there are no objections, these will be placed on the Omnibus. Item number 7 is from the Department of Law trans, um meeting reports of cases in which verdicts judgements are settlements were entered into for the month of June 2024. These reports were also sent electronically to everyone and if there are no objections, we will file them with the city clerk's office. Item number 8 is from the Department of Law. Um, we have 4 proposed orders authorizing The Corporation Council to enter into and execute settlement orders. Um for the following cases, uh, the first 1 will consider today is 8A Melissa najera special representative for deceased plaintiff Alfonso Paul cazares versus City of Chicago at all for an amount of 410 dollars. We're joined by Deputy Corporation Council Carolyn fransic. Good morning, everyone. I'm here to present the case of Melissa Nair a special representative for the deceased plan. If Alonso casseres versus officer Luis Garcia manual garon Sergeant Kevin rake and the city of Chicago. Alfonso Paul caseras filed a lawsuit in federal court against officers Louie Garcia and manual garan and Sergeant Kevin rake alleging. He was placed in an unlawful Chokehold by Officer Garcia and the chorus of an unlawful arrest on May 31st of 2019. the incident which was partially captured on video resulted in an extensive investigation by Coppa and referral to the Chicago Police board, which resulted in defendant Garcia's termination from the Chicago Police Department. Defendant. Garcia was also charged by the Cook County State's Attorney's office with official misconduct. He was found not guilty following a bench trial Mr. Caceres was charged with resisting or obstructing a police officer obstruction of traffic and Battery as a result of the incident on May 31st of 2019. His His criminal case was resolved by plea agreement in which he plead guilty to resisting or obstructing a police officer and the state's attorney dismissed the remaining charges. The plaintiff has alleging claims of excessive force against defendant officers Garcia and Jaron unreasonable denial of Medical Care against Garcia and guran and Sergeant rake conspiracy to deprive constitutional rights against individual defendants a failure to intervene against defendants Garcia and guran and in section 1983 monell policy and practice claim against the city of Chicago. On November 23rd 2022 during the pendency of the lawsuit Mr. Caseras was killed in an unrelated hit and run accident his cousin plane of Melissa and Jer had been appointed to the rep be special representative as a state for purposes of this lawsuit and a state has now been open in Cook County Circuit Court for the purpose of administrating any proceeds from this lawsuit the Law Department recommends settlement in the amount of 410 dollars. The facts of the case are these on May 31st of 2019 Mr. Caceres was intoxicated in the middle of the street near a bus stop on the far East Side of Chicago officer garan's body worn camera was activated as the officer's approach Miss caerus and their squad car to question him about his actions in the street. The 2 officers are seen exiting the squad as they continue to question, Mr. Caseras Officer, Jaron retrieved, uh, Mr. Caceres driver's license then returned to the squad car to run caceres information while officer gone was in the squad the video captured officer Garcia handcuffing and arresting caseras Republic intoxication without incident moment later gar caseras and Garcia are seen on the body worn camera video engaged in a heated Mutual verbal altercation in the front of the squad car officer guran then exited the passenger side of the vehicle. officer guran and Garcia are observed in the body worn camera video walking caseras to the back passenger side of the squad officer guran then walked around the back of the squad and opened the rear driver's side door at that time as captured by Officer guan's bodyworn camera, Mr. Caseras was on his back Laying across the bench seat handcuffed officer. Garcia was on top of caseras at that time with both of his hands by caseras neck area during the transport caseros leaned forward and attempted to bite officer Garcia's ear in response officer. Garcia used an elbow strike in self-defense. The officer's briefly pulled over the squad at some point on route to evaluate Mr. Ceres's injuries. They determined he was not in need of medical attention. The video evidence in this case strongly just supports that. Um defendant Garcia used to choke. Hold on Mr. Caseras. Um, Mr. Cassar or Mr. Garcia was ultimately terminated from the Chicago Police Department due to the police board's finding that the use of the Chokehold was unlawful. Uh further a bloody mouth wound is visible and Mr. Casseres is booking photo as well as a separate body warning camera reflecting Mr. Cassar is transport to the hospital in the back of an ambulance. As far as damages the plaintiff would seek psychological damages for paranoia depression and post-traumatic stress that Mr. Caceras alleged he suffered from the incident of May of 2019 until his death in November in 2022 playing a physical injury was a lip laceration from defendant Garcia's elbow strike, which was treated in the hospital with stitches. If this case were to go to trial and the defendant City and the officers would lose this on a verdict against them. Um, Attorney's fees in this case would exceed dollars. Therefore the Law Department recommends settlement the amount of 410,000 and a cost-saving effort of for the city of Chicago. thank you miss fronek any questions for members of the Council committee Seeing no Alderman spaz. Thank you. Madam. Chair. I can't break my record for Caroline stock. Just 1 question Caroline. Did you say it was also illegal arrest? Well, Mr. Caseras alleged the arrest was unlawful, but he did plead guilty to a resisting or obstructing so likely that would claim would not survive summary judgement. Okay. Thank you. Thank you madam chair. is there a motion to recommend approval of item number 8 a So moved by Alderman Moore recommending do pass all those in favor signify by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair of the I have it and the do pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Thank you Carolyn. Um, the next case will be reported by uh, Miss uh Margaret mendenhal Casey. Um, it is the case of Mary reading as special administrator of the estate of Dana Hubbert deceased versus the city of Chicago in the amount of 2.5 million. Thank you chair. This case involves a police pursuit in which an innocent civilians car was struck by a car that was fleeing from officer tumultuous. Dana hubber died as a result of the accident the Department of Law recommends settlement in the amount of 2.5 million. On April 18th of 2019 officer tumultuous ran the license plate of a charger driven by Clarence Hebron and learned that it was a felonious vehicle. Officer tumultuous along with 3 additional CPD units attempted to conduct a traffic stop. the charge or fled the scene followed by the 4 CP units the charger fled for a total of 22 seconds over a distance of 3/8 of a mile. The charger reached a top speed of 84 miles per hour while the CPD units reached a top speed of 69 miles per hour. Finally at the intersection of 59th and normal the charge was struck a car occupied by Dana hubard an innocent. Civilian. The plaintiff alleges that the officers willfully and wantley pursue the charger and violation of the general orders. Offender Hebron was charged with a felony stemming from this incident. At the time of the accident the charger was wanted by Riverdale police as offender Hebron used the charger to flee a domestic battery. The officers knew the charger was associated with the founding, but did not know the exact nature of the felony. The charger was uninsured at the time of this incident officers were not aware that offender Hebron was on bond for gun charges. Dana hubard was found unresponsive at the scene had to be extracted from her car and was rushed to the hospital. She suffered a severed spine in bleeding in her brain. She never regained Consciousness and died 6 days after the accident. Her medical bills are 400000000. Was a single parent Raising a Son Zion between 8 and 9 years old. She worked for the Post Office and her expert values her loss earning potential at 1.8 million. Therefore there's a total of 2.2 million dollars in economic damages in the record. While the officers deny pursuing the plaintiff will attempt to use multiple Undisputed attacks to refute this claim 8 officers and 4 squad cars accelerated after the offender and accelerating the officers reached speeds twice the legal limit at the time of the accident. The officers were a mere 450 ft behind offender Hebron. The plaintiff will argue that the officers violated the general orders by caravanning or pursuing with more than 2 police cars. They are also argued that the general orders were violated by failing to keep license Sirens activated licensed Sirens that may have worn Dana about the approach of police. The jury May a portion fall between the city and offender Hebron as we've discussed before under Illinois Law a party found responsible for any percentage of fault is responsible for all of plaintiff's loss earnings and medical bills, which are valued at 2.2 million dollars in this case. Thus if the city is found even 1% responsible. It will be required to pay 2.2 million at the minimum. The Department of Law, therefore recommends settlements in the amount of 2.5 million. Thank you, Miss. Menen Hall Casey, uh any questions from members of the committee? Alderman spaz Thank you. Madam. Chair. I noticed Margaret was looking right at me when you were asking if there's going to be any questions or not. So I saw you raise your hand. Uh, just a question something 1 thing's a little confusing and of course I support it but the chase went on for less than half a was a half a block or half a mile. Did you say 38 of a black or a 38 of a mile? Okay. Alright. Okay that explains me how they got going that fast. And because I was a little I thought I missed urging you said half of my okay. Thank you. That's it. Thank you madam chair. Thank you alderman pisado. Alderman Hopkins follow I'm sorry Vice chair Conway. Did you have your hand up? No, I I was merely noting that Hopkins and had didn't really get that hand up there Hopkins followed by Alderman Quinn. No, I was just going to move approval if there were no further questions. Okay, hold it 1 second Alderman Quinn. Um, I haven't made the motion yet. But uh got you uh Alderman Hopkins, are there any other questions from members of the committee seeing none? No other questions Alderman Hopkins recommends do pass all those in favor signify by saying I with the exception of all them and Quinn who wants to be recorded as opposed. All right. All those opposed in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it the due pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Uh, the third uh case we have today HC is VZ versus City of Chicago at all in the amount of 7.6 million. And for this case. We're joined by Deputy Corporation Council Jessica Felker. Good morning. Still mourning 1 minute to afternoon. Very good. I was wondering okay, um as the chair said this is John veasey versus City, uh, the Department of Law in this case recommends settling this reverse conviction lawsuit for 7.6 million. Uh, the plaintiff John vez was convicted in 2002 of the 2001 murder of Anthony huanca, the Les spent 1 and a half years in pre-trial detention before his trial in an additional 15 years in custody after he was convicted. Until 2017 when his conviction was vacated and the charges were dismissed against him. Anthony Hanka a member of the Latin Kings was fatally shot by 2 individuals in a gang-related shooting on March 19th, 2001 near a nightclub at Marshall Boulevard in sirach Road. Before the shooting 3 individuals in a car were held by gunpoint by the perpetrators and their friend had exited the vehicle and was on the street during the shooting. Based on gang names shouted by the perpetrators the evidence pointed to the sh shooting being an attack on the Latin King by members of the set Satan Disciples. During the CPD investigation 1 of the witnesses came into the area for headquarters to be interviewed. Coincidentally Beezy was at the station looking for a friend in custody. The Les had been the victim of a drive by shooting himself. 1 of the detectives assigned to the huana murder detective Bardot was also assigned to investigate that drive by shooting. Targeting he spoke to Valles to gather more information on that shooting and then pulled his mug shot for the police report to verify the lessa's identification and using the use the identifying information from the mugshot to write the report. Detective Ricardo put a mug shot of Alles in his clipboard and then went to the interview. It went to interview 1 of the Witnesses in the huanca murder. Detective picardo reported that when he opened the clipboard to interview the witness the witness spontaneously identified as 1 of the shooters eventually that led to having all 4 Witnesses at the scene. Look at the photo arrays Andor live line up with the Les in it and all 4 Witnesses identified the Les in the lineup. Although there are disputes about the reliability of those identifications. The Les was then arrested and in an interview. He admitted that he was a Satan disciple. Les however disputes that he said anything further 1 piece of evidence that tied vests to the crime had to do with an incident shortly after Hank's murder. Les's girlfriend had been shot visiting the grave site of the lesa's uncle the lesa's uncle was killed approximately a year before he went was murdered detectives reported that the Les told him. That told them uh, Latin King had shot his uncle who was a Satan disciple. They further reported that the Les said his girlfriend was shot by Latin Kings the last night saying any of that. Cook County Sheriff's officers reported that while in the hospital visiting his girlfriend Valles told her that she was shot because of something he did after an interview by the detectives, uh, assistant State's Attorney interviewed his girlfriend and she signed a statement that Valles admitted that she was shot because a member of the Latin King shot someone at 21st and Marshall. The last was charged and proceeded to trial for Witnesses identified Valles and his girlfriend testified but denied that she ever had reason to believe that Valles shot huena the prosecutor. However, spoke of the handwritten statement ves's girlfriend had given and stated. It was an admission by Valles of guilt. This evidence was hearsay a jury found Valles guilty in October 2002 in December 2017. Then the state's attorney agreed to vacate vesa's conviction and dismiss the charges but as it had argued that his conviction should be vacated because among other reasons 1 of the witnesses cousins said the witness falsely implicated vests. And because his attorney was ineffective because the attorney not only failed to introduce evidence of vesa's Alibi, which vests says that he was doing laundry with his cousin at the time. The attorney also failed to present evidence of the lesses knee injury that the Les claims would have prevented him from running away from the scene. Like it was described by the witnesses the attorney also failed to object to the prosecutor's impermissible use of the girlfriend's statement at trial. The State's Attorney's office said it determined constitutional violations occurred at trial and so it was willing to vacate the conviction and dismiss the charges the Les never saw a certificate of Innocence. In 2018, he filed this suit alleging that along with the Cook County Sheriff's officers and the state's attorney. CPD officers con. Uh, excuse me, cpd's officers misconduct will resulted in his wrongful conviction. He claimed that the officers fabricated the identification by zeze by 2 of the witnesses. Well as also contends that the identification from the clipboard was a sham and his own statement was fabricated. Well as his cousin testified that he had an alibi. He was doing laundry with her at his aunt's house at the time of the murder. In this lawsuit 2 of the witnesses to the shooting were not located or properly served for depositions the other 2 ident testified in their depositions in this case that 1 and 1 of those 2 Witnesses stood by her identification and testified that she was not pressured by police to identify the less. There were some inconsistencies in her testimony. However, the witness who testified at trial that he identified VZ from the clipboard testified in this case that he lied to trial and that he identified the last looking at a a game book looking at game book photos. Not the clipboard. He also testified that he when he viewed the live lineup. He had brought a photo of the Les with him and when he could not tell Who in the lineup match the photo and offers are told him which man in the lineup matched the photo? However, that Winners also does stand by his identification of the Les as the shooter. 2 Cousins of 1 of the witnesses who was not deposed testified in his case as well. They said that their cousin admitted that he falsely identified fletes 1 of the cousins also testified that he was at the crime scene when the murder happened and he knew it wasn't Bes but IDE records show that this cousin was in prison at the time of the shooting. The city moved for summary judgement and was able to get several claims and 9 officers dismissed from the lawsuit. The Court ruled that there was probable cause to prosecute the laws. However, the fabrication claims remain as well as a monell claim against the city that is policy and practice of failing to discipline officers. The court is allowing those claim against the officers to be tried with those against the city if the city lost the monell claim that trial plaintiff would try to use that verdict against the city and future lawsuits. As well as any verdict against the officers in any lawsuits. They may be named in trying a monell claim with the claims against the officers presents the danger of the officers being found liable by association. The same is true of the claim against the city the jury hears evidence that the city's policy of discipline were inadequate and assume that means the officers committed the misconduct alleged. Conversely the city the jury hears that the officers may have committed misconduct and assume that the city's policies were inadequate. ZZ initially asked for 14.25 million to settle against the city, but the city was able to negotiate down to 7.6 million for his 15 years of incarceration after the approximately 500,000 dollars per year of incarceration the county settled for 2.4 million not long before the city reached its settlement. At this point of the litigation if it does not settle, we will proceed to trial a trial date had been set for July. There's a large Financial Risk of proceeding to trial here besa's attorneys historically have asked for 1 to 2 million per year of incarceration at other trials. They've tried Which in this case would be the equivalent of 15 to 30 million if the Les is successful at trial in addition to those damages. He will be entitled to attorney's fees, which likely would be in the range of 3 to 4 million. Given the risk and to avoid negative precedent the city recommends settling for 7.6 million. Thank you. Thank you Jessica feler. Um Vice chair Conway. Um just to ask some some clarifying questions after the um The the now plane if was found guilty in the first trial. Uh, did you say that multiple Witnesses still stand by their their identification that they made a trial? So 2 Witnesses still stand by their identification 2 of the other Witnesses could not be found for deposition. Um, so if they were found before trial, we don't necessarily know what they would say, um, the 1 Witnesses who stood by his identification. However said that the clipboard in incident was a lie and that he identified the LZ from of gang photo book and that he was told that the LZ matched the photo that he happened to have in his hand during the lineup. So that so wait so 1 of those Witnesses who did not recant. Instead that the detective did not have a picture of the plaintiff on his clipboard. Uh, he said that he did not identify the plaintiff from the clipboard that he was given a photo book of gang members and that's where he saw the Les and identified him do um, There and you said that there was no certificate of Innocence sought in this case. That's correct. Um, and and this conviction just was vacated in 2017. Is that right? That's correct. um now the 2.4 million the the the county settled for is that did that have something to do with the county sheriff's that were involved later in the case or the county sheriff's were named as well as an assistant States Attorney who was the felony review attorney? Got it. Okay. Um. You know Madam chairwoman, you know to be fiscally responsible. We always have to make difficult choices here as a city and in a situation where we have no certificate of wi of uh of Innocence multiple Witnesses who stand by their initial, uh identification a settlement that if you include the county half of the settlement is is in excess of 600 dollars a year, um, which seems, you know outside the level of precedent. If you could please put me as a note to this. Thank you. Thank you Alderman Conway Alderman spaz followed by Alderman waguespack. Thank you. Madam. Chair, good afternoon, Jessica couple questions. Um, so I I think you said that that that the witnesses credibility was disputed and that was by who So more witnesses that was so so there's 4 Witnesses 2 of them couldn't be located for depositions. Um, and then 2 of them were deposed, um, obviously the witness who said he lied at trial his credibility is going to be disputed and then the second witness, um did have some inconsistencies with her prior testimony. The plaintiff will also have an expert witness to say that eyewitness identifications are unreliable and it's likely that they could not have seen uh, what could not have identified Valles correctly. Um, and then again that 1 witness who couldn't be found his cousins did testify that he uh made up the identification. So he said he lied or did he say he stands by what he said? So that witness was not located. It's only his cousins who came forward to testify and said that he told them he made up the identification the 9 officers you said they were dismissed not fired meaning dismissed from any correct dismissed from liability. They they no longer in this lawsuit. Did any officers going to need discipline for this? No, this happened in 2001. And so a jury of his peers found him guilty or there's 4 Witnesses. but yet he's getting 2 and a half in the county and 7 and a half from us. I stand with my colleague. I have to be a no on this 1 also. So thank you very much Jessica. I appreciate you madam chair. Can you put me down as a no also? Yes. Thank you Alderman, pisado. Uh, Jessica. Can you tell me who's the responsible party for actually trying to locate locate Witnesses? What's the process for that? So the attorneys from uh from both sides look try to locate Witnesses and they have to serve them, uh to be deposed and so 1 of the witnesses could not be located despite every effort made and by both sides, I believe and another witness could not be served properly. Could not be served properly, but we know where he is. Um, I'm not sure of the details of we thought we knew where that person was, but they weren't there or if we were unable to just uh, perfect service. Okay, thank you. Uh Alderman wages back followed by Alderman Scott. Thank you chairman. Um Jessica over here, um, you mentioned the felony review attorney and the sheriff's that were involved. This is on the C. These are the people that were involved on the county side and what claim did the plaintiff's attorney make against the county on both or both of those claims and um, What do you know what they and also do you know what they originally asked the county for? No idea what they originally asked the county for. Um. Does not disclose that and neither did the plaintiffs. Um as far as what the claims were. To begin with against the county. I think I might have those. So I can tell you what happened after summary judgement what claims remained against the county and they uh settled after summary judgement. So the fabrication of evidence claim remained against County defendants. And the federal conspiracy claim remained against County defendants. and intentional infliction of emotional distress state law conspiracy and then indemnification against the county. And ours was just the monell claim and what or what else? no ours was the fabrication of evidence the Brady violations violations that were alleged, uh Federal conspiracy failure to intervene. And then monel infliction of emotional distress intentional Affliction emotional stress responding at Superior State law conspiracy and identification. and um I know you've told us in the past. So the felony review attorney is the 1 who looks at all the evidence that was presented by our department. and decides okay, everything that they've given us is uh, correct and I can move forward on this prosecution. So in general the assistant States Attorney who's in the felony review? Yes does look at what the detectives collected and considers that but and most cases and in this case the assistant State's Attorney participated in interviews and took handwritten statements by some of the witnesses. So they were pretty heavily involved. Yes. Um and was this the type of case that? uh, I mean just looking at the background that the assistant State's Attorney handled themselves or did this go up to the state's attorney all the way to the top because of the uh, the type of case or the type of um claims and also, um Maybe who the uh plaintiffs attorneys were. Um, I hesitate to speak on behalf of the county and their legal representation, but they did have um, they were represented, uh, by outside counsel, uh that the county hired and so who decides uh this if you're asking who decided to settle and the settlement amount, uh, that's that's not disclosed to me. Yeah. No, I was I was thinking more of um, is this the type of case that would go all the way to the uh top at the State's Attorney's office so that they would look at the case review it and say Right. This is you did the right job here to the assistant State's Attorney more along that line. Yeah, I have no idea. Okay. Um, no, I just found it interesting that they also then did in about face and did the certificate of Innocence. Is that right? No, there was no certificate of Innocence thought yeah. Okay, not sought okay. um And who's the plaintiff's attorney? Lobby and Lobby. Oh Okay. Thank you madam chair. Thank you. Alderman waguespack Alderman Scott. I just wanted to be recorded as a no. Any other questions Alderman Reilly? Move the previous question and ask for a roll call vote. I had planned to do a roll call vote. That's why I have my little sheet here fantastic. Um, so we will start with the Roll Call. um Vice chair Conway alderman laspata Alderman Hopkins Alderman Hall Alderman Mitchell Alderman Harris Alderman Bill Alderman Lee Alderman Ramirez Alderman Quinn Alderman Lopez Alderman Moore Alderman Curtis Alderman OSHA Alderman Taylor know Alderman Mosley Alderman Rodriguez Alderman Scott Alderman CEO Lopez Alderman Bernett Alderman Ervin all the mentality of pharaoh Alderman wages back Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez Alderman Ramirez Rosa alderman viegas Alderman mitts alderman spazo Alderman Reilly alderman, kuden I'm sorry, Allan Vasquez I missed him. Uh, you're a yes almond Harris. Alderman Martin Alderman Silverstein Alderman mitts Okay. um anyone I miss Alderman Le Spa Lopez votes I where and Emma Alderman mitz was a yes. Rodriguez is a yes Alderman Vasquez Is an i. ramir Alderman Ramirez Rosa Alderman Ramirez Rosa, he didn't vote chairman dowel is a no. Um Alderman Cardona Okay, the roll call vote is uh 9 yay and 14, uh knows. Uh, so this item does not pass and we'll move on to item. 8 D Madam chair, I'd like to vote Yes. This is Carlos Ramirez, Rosa. Okay. I I closed the vote. I called you twice. Um, we'll move on to item 8 D. Livingston at all versus City of Chicago Griffin versus City of Chicago in the amount of 11.25 million, um for this case, it will be reported out by Deputy Corporation Council can Roebling Mr. Roebling. Good afternoon, chairwoman Dal members of the finance committee. My name is Ken Roebling. I'm the deputy of the employment litigation division of the city's Department of Law. The Department of Law is recommending global settlement of employment discrimination claims filed by 11 current and former female employees of the Chicago Fire Department in the amount of 11.25 million. The settlement will resolve 2 Federal discrimination lawsuits. The first is Livingston verse the city of Chicago a gender discrimination case and a related disability discrimination case filed by 1 of the Livingston plaintiffs. The Livingston lawsuit was filed in 2016 by 11 women who were terminated from the paramedic training academy for failing certain physical tests that were in use at the time. They bring gender discrimination claims under title 7 the Illinois Civil Rights Act and the equal protection clause. all 11 to graduate from the academy at the time candidates were required to pass 2 physical tests. The first test was called the step test this test required candidates to hold 2, 25 pound weights and step up and down from an 18-inch box for 2 minutes to the beat of a metronome without missing Cadence for 2 consecutive Beats. The second test was called the chair test. It required a candidate and a partner to carry a 250 pound mannequin up and down flights of stairs without touching down except on the landing between flights. The fire department had been using both of these exercises prior to 2014 but never as a graduation Academy requirement. Prior to 2014 the step test was used at the Academy as a fitness exercise for endurance purposes only. It was never scored and candidates were never required to meet a certain standard to graduate in addition. The Box previously used as a fitness exercise was only 9 inches high, but in 2014, the decision was made to increase the height to 18 inches. Women failed both tests at a much higher rate than men and only women were terminated from the academy for failing to pass these tests approximately 67% of women failed the step test compared to only 7% of men approximately 43% of women failed the chair tests compared to less than 2% of men the plaintiffs at trial will seek to hold the city liable for gender discrimination under 2 separate theories. The first theory is intentional discrimination under this Theory plaintiffs intend to prove that the physical tests were made more difficult in 2014 and became a graduation requirement specifically to limit the number of women becoming paramedics. The second theory is called adverse impact adverse impact is a way to prove discrimination without evidence of actual intent to discriminate adverse impact refers to Employment Practices that appear neutral but have a discriminatory effect on a protected group in this case women. If the selection rate for a protected group is less than 4 fifths or 80% of the most successful group legally significant adverse impact is established. Once adverse impact is established and employer can avoid liability only by showing that the practice at issue is directly related to the essential job functions. And there were no less discriminatory Alternatives that could use to higher qualified candidates. After 2015 the fire department stopped using these tests as a condition of graduation 5 of the 11 plaintiffs were later rehired between 2017 and 2019 were now required to complete these tests the second time through the academy and are successfully working for the fire department today. This case is set for a 6-week jury trial to begin in October the parties attended voluntary mediation earlier this year and reached a global settlement to resolve all claims including attorneys fees for 11.25 million pending city council approval. The law department is recommending this settlement to mitigate the significant financial exposure to the city if it loses at trial based on all the evidence that will be presented. We believe the plaintiffs are very likely to Prevail at trial under 1 or both of their theories. as for the adverse impact Theory plaintiffs already established that the physical test violate the 4 fifths Rule and had an adverse impact against women at trial they will seek to prove the physical tests were not job related and the evidence they will introduce to prove this point is as follows. The equal employment opportunity commission has published guidelines for how employers need to properly validate employment testing the guidelines provide that a selection process that has an adverse act adverse impact is per se unlawful unless the process has been properly validated under the guidelines the city did not validate either the physical. Test before using them as a graduation requirement. At trial the jury will hear the city knew well about the legal requirements that employment tests must be validated in 2014 due to Prior litigation that had been filed against the city. The department had previously used a testing consultant who was a leader in the field of industrial and occupational psychology to validate the pre-employment testing that's currently being used for firefighter and paramedic candidates today. The city's former testing consultant gave a deposition in the Livingston case and will tell the jury that 1 she could not validate the step test to in her opinion. It did not reflect the job requirements of a paramedic and 3 she would recommend that the fire department not use it as part of the hiring process. In addition the plaintiffs will introduce evidence that there was a disconnect at the fire department between the reason for increasing the height of the step and how it was ultimately used a fitness quarter at the Academy made a decision to increase the height of the step, but he testified in the case that he did so for fitness and conditioned purposes only in addition a deputy chief in charge of the Personnel division testified that he raised concerns about the extreme nature of the tests and the tests have been implemented internally without any science. The department ultimately decided to use the tests as a graduation requirement. Anyway, based on this testimony of the city prior testing consultant the testimony of various Fire Department officials. We believe the plaintiffs would likely Prevail on the adverse impact Theory at trial. as for their intentional discrimination claim liability turns on whether a jury believes the fire department implemented the tests and made them a graduation requirement to limit the number of women who could join the fire department. There's no direct evidence that the city intended to discriminate against women at trial however, planets will offer offer several pieces of circumstantial evidence of gender bias to prove their claims. First they will rely on the timing of the changes made to the step test and the decision to require completion as a condition of graduation. The fire department made these decisions around the same time that 36 female plaintiffs from another gender discrimination lawsuit were entering the firefighter Academy as part of a settlement reached in that prior case. The prior lawsuit was filed in 2011 by 9 female firefighters who were denied employment for failing the pre-employment physical ability test. As part of the settlement the city agreed to adopt and properly validate a new pre-employment physical test. The Livingston plaintiffs were among the first to take the new validated entrance exam and they will point to the timing of the new entrance exam and the changes at the Academy to argue that once the department could no longer eliminate women on the front end before joining the academy it began using tests at the Academy to do so. Finally, the plaintiffs will introduce evidence that a male candidate received favorable treatment more favorable treatment than female candidates in connection with academic testing candidates must maintain an 80% average on academic exams in order to graduate. The jury will hear that 1 male candidate with failing grades somehow received extra points and was able to graduate from the academy. The male candidate's paper exam showed that he answered only 78% of the questions correctly, but when his score was entered into a computer database, it was entered at 83% giving him the exact 80% needed to graduate. None of the female candidates below the 80% threshold received additional points allowing them to graduate. Based on the evidence. The jury will hear about the timing of the changes made to the tests. The decisions to require completion for the first time as a condition of graduation and the great inflation that occurred for a male candidate. We believe a jury will likely find in favor of the plaintiffs on their intentional discrimination claim. Finally, I want to touch briefly On a related claim filed by 1 of the plaintiffs in the Livingston case Donna Griffin who filed a separate disability discrimination lawsuit stemming from her performance on 1 of the physical tests during the testing she suffered a permanent hip injury for ultimately, uh for which she ultimately needed surgery and later was diagnosed with some medical conditions and prescribed medications to help her sleep. She was later deemed by cfds medical examiner is unfit for Duty. However, the Department's director did not conduct an individualized evaluation of Griffin in person prior to making his medical assessment, which is required under the Americans with Disability Act. Plaintiff will also introduce the testimony of her own treating physician and an addiction psychiatrist both of whom offered opinions to the fire department that they believed that Griffin was physically capable of safely performing The Essential functions of the job. We do have good arguments on this related case, but based on conflicting medical opinions a jury May well find in favor of Griffin on her disability claim. Finally the potential exposure to the city in this case is significant the plaintiff's last demand from n November of 2023 identified potential exposure through expert witness testimony at 33.5 million, excluding their attorneys fees, but offered to settle all claims for 24.6 million plus reasonable attorneys fees. Both the rehired and non-reference seek damages for lost wages pension losses compensation for pain and suffering and attorneys fees the plaintiffs that were not rehired also seek. What is called front pay damages minus what they earned are earning or could earn in comparable employment. We estimate the economic damages for the 5 re hired plaintiffs to be at least 1.25 million. We estimate the economic damages for the 6th who were not rehired for backpay front pay pension losses at approximately 15.3 million finally all 11. PL seek damages for pain and suffering. This means there will be many trials at on each of the plaintiffs individual experiences at the Academy. At trial there are 4 plaintiffs who claim and offer evidence that they suffered permanent physical injuries and career ending injuries as a result of trying to complete the test and use at the Academy these plaintiffs will offer testimony from medical tears and expert opinions stating that their current paying and physical injuries were caused by their attempt to complete the Test and prevent them from joining the EMT field going forward. Based on various jury verdicts for compensatory damages and gender discrimination cases of this type. We estimate that each plaintiff could be awarded damages for pain and suffering between 250,000 and 2 million dollars bringing the total projected exposure for pain and suffering for all 11. PL between 2.75 and 22 million. We estimate that plaintiff's total attorney's fees and costs through trial would be between 5 and 6 and a half million dollars. If these claims procedure trial, we believe the minimum assessment of exposure for all the plaintiffs for both claims is in excess of 25 million. It can easily exceed 35 million. If the court uses the plaintiff's expert front pay and pension loss calculations or if the jury Awards 1 or more plaintiffs and amount for pain and suffering in excess of our estimate if the settlement is approved the city will pay the settlement amount to a qualified settlement fund 7 million will be distributed to the 11 plaintain would be allocated to attorney's fees and costs the city would also agree to make back pension contributions to the 5th who have been rehired to uh to make them whole as if there were no breaks in employment. Taking all the risks into account. We recommend settlement of these claims and 11.25 million. It's a significant reduction from plaintiff's demand and likely less than 1 third of what will likely be requested from a jury at trial. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Roebling. We'll start our questioning with Vice chair Conway. You know, I would I would actually like to defer to a decorated veteran of the fire department and and all of its pisado. I suspect the last similar questions and he'll ask them from a place of Greater expertise. He didn't have his hand up. You didn't have any hand up. Okay. Well, that's well, this is awkward. I Got a little longer, but I I'm sure that he would have questions. So Alderman Spas, uh, your colleague has asked you to go first. Thank you madam chair. I don't want to hijack the meetings all the time. So I don't want to get that reputation. I do have experience it does and I'm very troubled by this. Um, this is a a paramedic just like a fireman is a very physical demanding job, and I've talked to Ken about this. Um, it's it's a bit confusing to me what went on and when I went on down here and everything, um, you know, you can't you can't that be physically fit and not do this job. You have to you have to go up and down stairs. You have to carry people down. Sometimes narrow 3 flights of stairs. There's many a times that paramedics claw for male and female both the like puff which you call assist reassess in the ambulance where you know, it's just a narrow stair and maybe Have a 300400 pound person and it's very difficult to get them down. So we bring the team there there's been times that some people were so large. We had to take them down in a tarp. There's a special tarp to carry people down at because you don't have a chair that that strong enough for this. But once again, it's a physical job. Um, and you can't not be in shape to do the shaft somewhat, but some of the questions I have for you so only 5 5 of the 11 were higher than at an issue said right Ken. 5 at 11 in the lawsuit eventually got the job and are still on the job. You said that's right 5 were rehired with without. Requiring to complete these tests and the city no longer uses these tests as part of the graduation at the Academy requirement. These particular tests are any physical fitness test. So there's a pre-employment physical assessment that's done and a medical exam that's done. And with none of those tests are at issue in the case the problem with the tests that were used is because the law is very clear that if you're going to use any pre-employment or post employment tests to eliminate candidates or deny promotions. They have to be properly validated under established guidelines. And if they are not the only defense in employer has is that it can show their job related here. The city doesn't have a story to tell on that because we stopped using the test in 2015. Hey Mary, you didn't make it you don't pass best wishes to you candidates are are offered 3 opportunities to pass the test. So the metrics I gave you are failure after 3 attempts. Okay, the physical part, okay, and then the proof of the 1 male getting preference. score change whatever is I mean, I'm sorry the the issue of the mail them change in his score so that he could pass as their proof of that or is that just hearing do we know there there's proof of it. We have the actual paper exams from all of the candidates in the alphabet classes in the case, and there was no uh individual who was able to testify how the error occurred. We argued that it could have been simply human error. Unfortunately, there wasn't a single female candidate that received the benefit of any similar errors. How many how many males and how many females are in this particular class? I don't have the exact number of all 5 of The Academy classes. Oh it involve 5 classes 5 classes from 24 and 2014 and 2015 if there was an increased need to hire paramedics during that time. He says we we need them right now. I mean, it's a constant problem. It's constant to get people for the shot. We are so short right now people. Uh, most of my colleagues know about that. Uh, lastly um, is is the money split evenly between the 11 files know the um, the 5 planets that were rehired their damages, uh range between approximately 250 and 400000 and most of that is based on the period of back pay between when they were initially terminated for failing the test and ultimately rehired, uh, plus back pension contributions for that time period to make them whole the significant portion of Damages will be portioned to the 6 that were not rehired the 4 planes that will demonstrate of evidence that they have permanent injuries as well as a result of taking these tests but the amounts vary based on On the individual circumstances in the case and the parties are working closely to identify the appropriate amounts for each individual plaintiff. So so 6 of the 11 are hurt for the rest of their life. They can never do anything physical because of this training know they're they're working in other employment several of them are working as paramedic A candid, uh paramedics and other smaller towns where they didn't have to complete these tests. So the damages are based on the differential between what they would have earned at cfd and the amount they earned in these smaller, uh localities and there are there are at least 2 plaintiffs that have testimony, uh that they would present through their treaters that they're not able to perform any paramedic or firefighter or EMT role based on permanent, uh back injuries bulging discs and other injuries to their knees. Thank thank you Ken Madam chair. This was very difficult for me at this point. I cannot support this. So I'm a no for now. I'm not saying I can't get to a yes on Wednesday. But for now, please put me down as a no. All right, we'll do Alderman spaz. Thank you for your questions Vice chair Conway followed by Alderman Lee is at the time. Of when these plaintiffs took the test, was there another physical test that was given to them in addition to these physical tests. They only physical assessment that was done was the pre-employment physical assessment and the medical screening which they cleared. At the Academy prior to 2014 there were no physical tests. The candidate had to complete there were plenty of fitness exercises for endurance purposes, but there were no scoring and standards that needed to be met to graduate 2014 and 2015 is the only 2-year period where these physical tests were used as a condition of graduation. subsequent to 2015 Was there a physical test that was then given that was validated? We only have the pre-employment physical assessment test which has been properly validated and that's what's in use today. So they do have to pass that physical test in order to be that has been validated to be high. It has been validated through a proper testing expert. Yes, and that's before they're actually hired at the Academy. So they have to clear that before they even entered the academy. Okay, thank you. That's all I have Madam chairman. Thank you. Alderman. Vice chair Conway, uh Alderman Lee Alderman Curtis. Did you have a You have question. Okay, Alderman Lee. Thank you, uh Madam chair, um in a just along the same line of questioning that uh, Vice chair Conway just asked I just want to be clear here that in no previous years. Um, besides 2014 and 2015. Was there a graduation requirement for this physical test. That's correct. All right. Um and what what precipitated the the change um, in 2014 and 2015 there was a recommendation by the fitness coordinator with the academy to increase the height of the step for endurance purposes as part of the physical assessments at the Academy. Uh it at some point the senior officials at the fire department after reviewing data indicating a number of candidates failed these tests made the decision to use it as a graduation requirement. It was the increase height of the test was never intended to be used as a test that would require completion and the decision to make completion of both tests and condition of graduation was a decision that was made at the time by the senior officials at the fire department. So this was a commissioner's decision, ultimately the commissioner ultimately made the decision and then what precipitated the uh, the the change in policy to take it away. I believe there was a threat for a legal claim and uh discussion between the appropriate internal stakeholders regarding the risk for the test not being validated and the city made a decision to discontinue using it. Um, do we know how many, um how many women actually passed that particular graduation requirement in the in the same time period 58 women attempted the step test and 39 fail at a 67% rate compared to men 175 tried and only 12 faile. percentage of 7% failure as for the chair test 53 women attempted and 23% failed at a rate of 43% and for the chair test 175 men tried and only 12 failed less than 2% failure rate. I think you can uh, you take a look at numbers in a lot of different ways clearly the the percentages were higher but I would argue that there were far fewer women that were taking the test at all. Um, so greater opportunity for more of them to fail. Um, I I am in full support of this settlement. Um, it it seems obvious to me that this uh this Test was not necessary. Um, and uh, you know, hope we we we compensate these, uh, these women who were agreed in the process. Thank you very much Madam. Thank you Alderman Lee Alderman waguespack followed by Alderman Taylor. Thanks chairwoman. Um just a quick uh point on your comment about the other 6 that have um jobs and other did you say municipalities or were they private and municipality or maybe you didn't say that? I didn't say. What I do have some information 1 is working for the village of Thornton. Another is a paramedic for oxy heal. Another is for Trace ambulance. So a variety of different atmospheres, but none for a large Metropolitan. Okay employer. All right. Thank you manager. Thank you Alderman waguespack Alderman Taylor followed by Alderman Curtis. How many men were not hired because they feel the test? I mean none there were no men that were terminated for failing the tests. Alderman Taylor, uh last question. Can you tell us the racial makeup of the 11 women? I don't have those metrics um with me today. all those all that data is self-reported by candidates and I believe for 3 of the 11 candidates. They did not self-report their their demographic information. Thank you madam chair. Point of view. Uh, thank you madam chair. I just want to make sure I I understood uh Alderman. Um, Taylor's question. Did you just say did she just asked how many men were not? Um, how many men were not hired for failure of the test and you said there were none that were non hired there were none that were terminated there were several men that failed but just took themselves out of the program voluntarily so they will I just wanted to make sure we understood then that was clear that they took themselves out of the process because if you failed that test you shouldn't be hired. That's correct. Okay. Thank you, right. Thank you Alderman Lee Alderman Curtis. Thank you. Madam. Chairman. I I just want to make a statement and I I I just feel that. You know at some point we need to. To uh do audits on a on a lot of things. I think the city is losing. a lot of good people, uh uh and various positions because if they're good enough for uh other agencies doing the exact same job. They should be good enough for the city of Chicago. Uh, and and I saw that in a lot of departments. So that's just a statement. I wanted to make and I am in full support of this. Thank you. Thank you Alderman Curtis Alderman Harris Alderman Harris moves to pass on item number 8 D all those in favor signify by saying I I opposed. Uh, all the input wants to be recorded as a no on this item and we will report that out in the due pass motion or recommendation at the next city council meeting there being no further business before the committee on finance. Can I get a motion to adjourn Alderman kiten? Thank you for that motion to adjourn all those in favor signify by saying I post and the opinion of the chairs the eyes have it. Have a good afternoon everyone the committee on finances here by