did it with my girls or older now.
They learned to ride a bike in like the first 30 seconds of
the camp. Whereas with immediately don't touch me Mom. You
know, it's like really annoying and these horrible yell at
you. And so I paid and I'm doing that started yesterday.
Guess what?
45 seconds. It's dropping them off the camp. I'm like, what
are you doing the rest of the week? Well, they teach you
then they teach you the new version then it's fine. But all
I really wanted.
guys
the next year
That's all.
the basketball player in my older son doesn't really do
Sports anymore. It's really easy. Like he's gonna be a camp
counselor mix are on.
off
everybody loves him. I don't know.
Catherine Smith Catherine
This is George.
What's that? I can drink that on while I'm fast.
You're wondering if that's something that you.
Should have had we didn't ship.
you're the
the committee of police and fires called to order we will
now take a roll call to establish a quorum. Please note
that a yes or present response may be deemed as a yes vote
when a quorum roll call is used for later items to be
called.
Vice chair Robinson here
Alderman Hall
Alderman Mitchell
alderwoman Lee
Alderman Curtis
alderwoman Taylor
Alderman Mosley
alderwoman tabaris
Alderman Cardona
alderman spazo
all the women nent
Alderman Napolitano
Alderman Ken
Alderman Gardner
alderwoman clay
All right. We have Tim Ren was present. We do have a
quorum.
Um pursuing the roof 59 Alderman Ervin for emergency
reasons has requested to appear by video conference. Can I
get a motion for the approval of alderman Ervin to appear
by video conference?
So moved by Alderman kiten all those in favor signify by
saying I
All those opposed say nay and opinion of the chair the eyes
have it. Um aldermen will be a purring by a video
conference today.
I do see all the urban urban as being present as well at
this time. We will begin public comment our first speaker.
Will be Mr. George, Blakemore, Mr. Blakemore.
Each of our public speak. Each of our speakers will have 3
minutes.
Make sure you give me my 3 minutes. I will make that don't
stop it.
George played more how many years you've been coming to the
uh, holy Sports
Who's Reverend Daniel and master Jeff for years? This
police board is nothing but a dog and pony show.
This whole city government is disgrace.
I couldn't believe it.
Just yesterday.
over
75 million dollars maybe even more with the police abuse
and most time the police are abusing people.
Not color people of color not Asian not white but black
people.
with this police force
It's something evil here.
Something corrupt. I thought the meeting was started 12. I
was bamming at the door open this door open this door.
The reason you didn't open it because you didn't have a
car.
You're unprofessional.
You are terrible terrible people and what makes it so bad.
I look like a damn fool bamming and coming in. Holly.
Nobody else. Everybody was silent.
I beat on the damn damn open the door and then they have
the police with a gun to push me. You can't come in.
Let me get a shot me I said let me in.
It's something evil wrong and the people.
They have beat down the citizens of the city of Chicago to
take this mess just beat them down. I say open this door.
Let me in this meeting start at 12 open it pushing me back.
Locking me up.
This is worse than a communist system.
A passage system this Democratic machine.
They all know good the Black 1 the white ones the Asians
the Hispanic.
It's terrible and the people have no fight.
They have no protest.
Nancy Jefferson
All right, Reverend, Daniel 30 years ago. Those black men
were sitting on these voids letting them abuse black
people.
And it's still going on today. When will it stop tell
another stop until we have a revolution?
A revolution of our man to take this system called the
Democratic machine. We need a market Party City government
that respect the rights and dignity of our philosophers.
Something is wrong here. Something is evil here. Nothing.
of America here
nothing. Thank you Mr. Blake Moore. I Nick speaker will be
Mr. Michael Young bae.
Mr. Yung bae
The show within the show. Good afternoon, sir. Good
afternoon. Um,
What's the purpose of these appointments of these members
of these boards? It don't matter which board it is. But
since this the police and fire, we gonna focus in on that.
What do you
Usd's elected or appointed.
Board members going to do for the citizens.
Because it seemed like as he mentioned other board members
get in there and the conditions don't change.
The up crease and police brutality.
The up crease and police shootings unjustified unanswered.
also
the political game that people play with the shots father.
it say shots B is um
is not
a source of saving no lives
It's a technology that hears things and for the most part A
lot of them calls come undetected.
Because shots probably not in all communities.
But I also noticed that people that aggravate advocated for
shot spotter in the last meeting in the city council, you
know, they not here at these meetings.
You know to make it think and um 1 of the Ottoman said is
this a a money grab a stock thing involved in it?
we just had
people protest
In the war where Gilbert in uh opening up a police station.
because in Ash Wy you need
soldiers
and I'm calling them soldiers for for a reason.
Not not on no criticism or nothing because you got to be
brave no matter what your frame of thought is to get out
there on that street and some defend the people.
Defending the public defend the property of the public.
because a lot of officers are not bad officers, but we have
to change the conduct and the thinking of people so when
you come into these boards
what changes you going to make?
What resolution is you going to offer?
That's what we need. We need strong men and women to stand
up and do the right thing for our communities.
And a lot of the pressure or whether you don't see it as
pressure because some people may just not care, but I'm
referring to you ultimates.
You know take all that in consideration.
You see it, uh
what they have.
And what they see the future of Chicago.
Thank you Mr. Bay.
I let the record reflect that. Um Alderman Mosley is
joining us for purposes of quorum.
our next speaker
it Miss Zoe Lee.
Miss Lee
good afternoon.
alderman
Um a couple of things, um, my mother filed a police report
back in 2017 when the city knocked down the building in the
police never got back to me about that and I would
appreciate that because the city, uh,
is responsible for it not the police the city in No, 1
never did investigation because it is kind of confusing but
that's something I would like the city to look into. Um,
also I want to talk about like
On every corner. There's an undocumented immigrant.
single mother
with 2 to 3 kids with a box of candy all downtown they're
on every corner like every corner from streeterville South
Loop.
River North they're everywhere and they're even in front of
the city hall.
With the same box of candy with 2 to 3 kids and I do see
police walking down State Street and Michigan have and I
know that they're not allowed to like, you know, ask
questions or you know.
Call DCFS but if that would be us.
All our kids would have been taken they would have been
arrested like it. They would have been going through. Uh,
Family Court like that doesn't none of that don't like like
every day.
Every day like that. It's literally they're on every
corner.
with 223 kids
like that's
Not normal, like I've been to DC. I've been to a Atlanta. I
went to New York like even in New York. It's not like this
like in Chicago. It's on every corner and Chicago. This is
like we make the most money because we have the best
summertime in Chicago. So to see people come in here and to
see this is embarrassing.
like
No 1 is like you know why nobody can't talk to the mayor
about it like he's been in 30 thousand dollars on makeup
like is nobody going to like talk to him and see like hey
man, like do you see these people outside like the kids
like we sit here and talk about affordable housing all week
all month. We pass all this but you have chill children
that are endangered outside clearly. They can't care for
themselves and their parents can't they came from another
country to come here?
Chicago Streets
That makes no sense.
Thank you. Miss Lee.
Can you get out of me?
Yes, I am. Thank you chairman.
No.
Thank you, sir.
I was going to do it when we adjourned, but we'll I'll do
it now.
There are 4 items on the commit. Um before the committee
today items 1 through 3.
Are the appointments of Claudia bedia item number 2 the
appointment of Justin Terry and item number 3 the
appointment of Katherine Liss if I could have the 3, um
appointees please step forward.
Yeah.
Since this is the committee on police and fire. Um, I was
gonna uh, do a little joke, but I decided not to do it. You
know, how you get into a a lineup you guys are supposed to
say. No. I I don't I don't know. What a lineup is, so
um
do I have 1 2 3 is the appointment of Claudia via Justin
Terry and Katherine list, uh
Each of you should have received their resumes of each
appointee and I um invite each of them to come before us
today and answer any questions or comments. Um, if there if
there are any statements that each of you like to make will
start with since item number 1 is the appointment of
Claudia. We'll start with Claudia BEDA Miss Bia. Thank you.
Good afternoon. Chairperson talifero Vice chair Robinson in
the committee at large. Um, I would like to formally
introduce myself to the committee and thank the members for
considering me for an appointment to the city of Chicago
Police board. My name is Claudia beidou. I'm a lifelong
resident of our beautiful city of Chicago born and raised.
I'm an attorney and I practice consumer bankruptcy. I have
my own law practice and I help individuals and small
businesses who need to file for bankruptcy due to a variety
of financial reasons. Um, I help people in their most
desperate times and I pride myself in finding solutions to
their problems, um by offering my expertise in the area a
little bit about me personally. I was born and raised in
the 45th Ward up in Jeff Park. Um, I attended Edison Park
Elementary School and then I commuted for over an hour in
the CTA took a bus train in a bus to get all the way to
Lincoln Park High School. Um, I attended the IB program in
the 90s, um and went on to Northwestern University and then
I studied law at Chicago Kent. Uh, my parents were
immigrants I speak Spanish flu.
Fluently, even though I was born and here um, and they
instilled in me, of course hard work, um, a lot of um,
strong discipline perseverance compassion and tolerance for
other people. Um, I live in the Northwest side of the city
now in the 41st Ward, I have 3 kids my husband's also an
attorney. Um, and my oldest daughter will be attending Taft
High School in the fall. Uh, I also serve on the Illinois
Supreme Court character in Fitness committee. Um, we
evaluate members who um are applying to practice.
this law and when a potential candidate has something in
their background, maybe something negative and their
application is flagged we sit on the committee and we make
decisions, um by reviewing evidence and interviewing the
candidate and we make impartial just and fair decisions to
see whether these people should become attorneys, um a
little bit more about me. Um, I remain committed to serving
my community in lots of other different ways. I am because
I practice bankruptcy. I'm on the bankruptcy liaison
committee. It's kind of like a committee between the judges
on the Northern district of Illinois the federal court with
practicing, um attorneys, and we try to make the bar and
the court a better place for practitioners and for people.
Um, I serve on my kids PTA. I'm on the local school council
at Edison. Um, I've worked as a hearing officer before for
the city of Chicago Board of Elections. I also try to Vol.
Well we get paid but we go to uh, election Central and I
try to work there every election Fielding calls from 5:00
a.m. In the morning to about 9:00 p.m. At night. Um, I've
been a court-appointed special advocate for children known
as casa.
In the past and I was a former president of the Puerto Rican
Bar Association, even though I'm not Puerto Rican. My
husband is um, and I remain The Treasure of that
organization. I also teach as an adjunct at Wright College
legal research and writing and finally if you want a little
bit about me personally, I love challenging things such as
being on this police board. Um, I run almost every day in
the Cook County forest preserves near my house. I am a um
certified scuba diver and that's pretty pretty much my
biggest passion. And did you know that Lake Michigan has
hundreds of shipwrecks that you can scuba dive in and I've
seen a ton of them. So that's a little bit about me. I want
to thank you for being here. Um, I really look forward to
serving on this board and I wish to bring my impartial
Viewpoint to this police board. I would like to have a seat
at the table where I can make a difference in the lives of
our residents by ensuring I will offer a neutral and fair
perspective. Um, and I want to thank you for your
consideration. Thank you, Miss Mido, uh and congrat
Congratulations on your um on your oldest becoming an
eagle.
Uh, my my son and daughters were Eagles as well where uh,
my colleague Alderman Jim Gardner was actually my son's uh
substitute teacher and now he's my son's Alderman. So, um,
we still need to trim tree trimmed, but we'll talk to them
about
Um, we'll move down to item number 2 not item number 2 but
um, um, next would be Miss. Um, Mr. Justin Terry who comes
highly recommended by Alderman pat down. Thank you. Do I
need to push this on or um, yeah until you see the green
light. I I failed at it this morning this afternoon, but
just hit the green light. I mean until it turns green.
You want to switch with me?
showing our adaptability
and let me before you start. Let me say thanks to Matt Max
for joining us today. Max is the executive director of the
police board.
Thanks for joining us.
thank you, uh Dear honorable chairperson Talya Ferro
Better. Yes, that's fine. Better better better. If I share
Robinson and committee members. My name is Justin Terry and
I come before you seeking your favorable consideration of
my appointment to the police board. I hope these brief
remarks will give you a better understanding of who I am
and the values that drive me to serve Chicago and hopefully
you were able to read my lengthy email which is why I have
very brief remarks today.
I've been a lifelong resident of the near south side and
currently reside in the Third Ward raised by CPS teacher
and a CPT officer. My twin sister and I were instilled with
the Deep sense of community my parents example of service
through their work made an impact that has always been
present in my life and always factors in my work decisions
where I commit time
in my 20 year career. I've been a civil defense attorney a
real estate developer and worked in telecommunications
these roles allow me to engage with diverse people and
communities all around Chicago understanding a variety of
challenges and perspectives different from my own as well
as teaching me the importance of listening and
collaboration.
My professional experiences have given me a unique lens
into parts of this city. I may have only known through
antidote creating a better appreciation for the entire city
through firsthand experience.
I'm keenly aware of the magnitude of making decisions that
affect livelihoods and shape policies.
A role such as this requires both an ability to respect the
rule of law and apply it with thoughtfulness patience
fairness and to some extent fearlessness as an active Cook
County arbitrator since 2018. I've had the fortune to work
on these skills striving for the best.
outcome possible through meticulous consideration of all
the facts and evidence
I welcome the opportunity to be an asset to the police board
which requires candidates who are independent and partial
and transparent capable if need be of reconciling complex
complex and passion issues. I'm confident my ability to
fulfill these duties. I humbly request your favorable
consideration of my appointment to the police board. Thank
you very much.
Thank you all Mr. Terry.
And if we could have Miss Katherine list, please join us at
the microphone. And um, I I do want to point out that Miss
Liz went to deepal law school.
Um, she's not going last because the Paul wait listed me.
I feel I feel like I may.
Oh Sam. Did you go to the Paul also?
Okay. So, uh, so she's not going last because the Paul wait
listed me but uh, we did have a great conversation had a
lot of fun talking and it was great getting to meet you
over the phone. So I give you uh, Miss Katherine lists.
Thank you chair, um chair tally of farro Vice chair
Robinson members of the committee. My name is Katie Liss
and I'm 1 of the 3 candidates here before you today for
consideration to the Lily board before I begin. I'd like to
thank those who I connected with this past week. I enjoyed
our discussions and hope to continue our conversations of
selected to serve on the police board to those. I've had
and had a chance to connect with I hope to work with each
of you going forward if selected. I'm interested in serving
in this capacity because I want to do what I can to help
serve our city our officers and our communities using my
particular skill set.
And background as a former family law attorney as well as my
service on other boards if selected to serve I would be an
impartial decision maker. I carefully review all the facts
of each case. I ensure due process occurs for both sides
and I maintain transparency in the decision-making process.
I'm Al also interested in attending the monthly meetings
and continuing our conversations to learn from each of you
and from the public.
Currently, I'm a resident of the 45th Ward. I've resided in
Chicago for 19 years. I lived in the north side with my
husband 3 children and our dog for approximately 11 years
my children attend the local public school, um Elementary
and Middle School in our area and I volunteer there on a
regular basis. I grew up in a western suburb of Chicago
attended College in Ohio and moved back home over 20 years
ago to be closer to family as well as a 10 law school and
the unnamed school. I'm not going to say
During law school. I worked during the day as a fan at a
family law firm as a clerk and went to classes at night and
06. I graduated law school and practiced family law from
2007 to 17 in 2017. I transitioned over to become the
director of the Canto and Fleck Family Law Center at to
Paul where I also now work in his assistant dean of Career
Services during my 10 plus years of practicing law. I
represented hundreds of litigants and divorces separation
cases children's of party to a divorce is a garnet Liam or
child rep and in contested adoption cases during the
contested divorce of Separation cases not
Not only did I argue for or against custody parenting time
domestic violence allegations Financial division of Estates
on behalf of my clients, but I also developed an ability to
ask questions and look at all the evidence provided and
seek that evidence out in order to find the truth
particularly as a guardian and Liam or child's rep when I
represented children, I'd interview both parties and the
children conduct house visits talk with counselors doctors
teachers attend IEP meetings review Dr. Reports school
reports and connect with any other witnesses that need be I
understand how important it is to be impartial to review
all of the facts and ensure due process and cases
currently. I also serve as the incoming first vice
president of the Chicago Bar Association. I'm an appointed
member of the Illinois Supreme Court committee on character
and fitness and a member of Depp Paul's Title 9 hearing
board. These experiences have further strengthened my
discipline discipline of impartiality and will allow me to
easily adapt to the role of the police board if selected.
And closing. I'm here today to ask for your support in
favorable consideration for an appointment to the police
board and I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
Thank you. Thank you Miss list. Uh, we will uh have our
questions and comments heard as a as a whole. Um, but we
will however, we will uh, vote individually on items 1
through 3, are there any questions or comments from uh any
committee members?
alderwoman nent followed by alderwoman Lee
There we go.
Oh, thank you chairman. Uh, I just wanted to take a moment
to thank all 3 candidates for um, putting themselves out
there and and doing this and I had a great conversation
with all 3 of you and I can't emphasize how how important I
think this role is and um, I was very grateful for your
kandare in our call, um, impartiality reasonableness
fairness. Um, these are things we talked about on our call
and those are the qualities that I'm looking for, um for
folks to participate in and be a part of this police board.
It's it's an incredibly important role and I'm
I really enjoyed the conversations and I'm I'm happy to
support all of your nominations regardless of where you
went to law school. I think you you all will be um will be
great candidates and um, we're here to support you. I'm
here to support you, uh in this and so um, congratulations.
Thank you chairman. Thank you all the woman Alder woman
lie.
Thank you chairman. And unfortunately, I wasn't able to
connect with any of you that's on me. Not on you not for
there were multiple attempts. I know uh, so I apologize
that I wasn't able to connect with you but uh appreciate
just like Elder woman nent said, uh, you're willingness to
serve in this capacity. Um, all of your resumes are quite
impressive. I'm just I've got 1 question for each of you.
To answer if you wouldn't mind. Um, what do you feel are
going to be your biggest challenges that you'll face? Um as
a member of this board
You want me sure is this on? Okay, I'll go first. Thank you
for that question Alderman lie. Um, I think that first of
all the amount of information I think we have to review
obviously. We're not on the board yet, but we have been
told that there are countless hours of police body Cam that
we're going to have to watch um testimony from you know,
all kinds of different hearings that have come before the
the, uh, the dispute reaches the board. I think for me
personally 1 of the things is going to be um, kind of
weighing the evidence. Obviously you want to make a
decision that is fair. I know that you know the issues that
are coming, you know in front of the board are obviously
disputed. That's the reason they've reached this point
because obviously there's a dispute between the
superintendent perhaps and and Coppa and so by the time it
arrives to the board, I assume they're quite contentious
especially if they involve officer shootings. I think it's
going to be um difficult and something that I will take
very seriously the amount of time that police officers have
to react in situations.
Whether they've taken the right choice keeping in mind the
victims also, um, especially to me, you know, having 3
children knowing that a lot of these victims may be minors.
I think that those are very difficult challenges. Um, but I
think I'm up for the challenge and I think that
carefully reviewing the evidence making sure that I don't
miss anything as far as testimony as far as reading, you
know, similar things like depositions and things like that.
I think that will help but I think I think it's going to be
challenging overall just making those decisions. But um,
that's the reason that we are here today. Thank you.
I think is this better. There we go. Uh, I think for me
with um with with our the arbitration and things like that
in flux, I think it's a real opportunity to think about the
policy the rules, um, working with Alderman and Community
to really, you know, make things work but for both police
and for the community, um, you know,
I think
a good refresh is necessary. So I think there's going to be
a lot of learning a lot of listening. Um, a lot of working
with colleagues. Um, should I be um appointed successfully,
um, and I think that's really the the biggest task, you
know subject to other things shaking out, uh in the months
to come so to speak. Thank you. Thank you.
Yep. Um, I I would Echo all of that. I I think probably for
me my
biggest hurdle would probably be the learning curve because
we haven't done this yet. Right we're stepping into it.
It's going to take some time for us to learn the process.
Learn what we need to review make sure you review
everything carefully. So I think the time we understand
we've been told around 20 hours of um review time for a
case. So we we understand the time commitment and we're all
able to do that and want to do it. So I think once we get
in there and and have done this a couple of of months and
seen a few hearings, I think it'll be a lot easier, but
right now it's just that hurdle of the learning curve.
Okay. Thank you. That's all I've got chairman. Thank you
Autumn woman.
Oh pursuant to rule 59 Alderman Silverstein for emergency
reasons has requested to appear by video conference. Can I
get a motion for the approval of Alder 1 and Silverstein to
appear by video conference?
So moved by altemus vazado all of those in favor. Say I I I
all of those opposed
Say nay and the opinion of the chairs the eyes have it
Alderman Silverstein. Are you with us today?
Yes, I'm here. Thank you. All all the women silver chain.
Are there any further questions?
or comments for the 3
Hi there, being no further questions. Can I get a motion
for the passage of item number 1 the appointment of Claudia
bada to the Chicago Police board?
So moved by Alderman's Alderman Napolitano, all those in
favor. Say I
all those opposed say nay and the opinion of the chair that
I have it and the motion carries. Congratulations Mrs.
Badil. The item will be reported out and the next meeting
of the city council, which is on May 12th 2024.
Can I get a motion for the passage of item number 2?
Okay, the appointment of Justin Terry to the Chicago Police
board. So moved by the entire committee.
So moved by Alderman Greg Mitchell all of those in favor.
Say I
all those opposed say nay and the opinion of the chair the
eyes have it the motion carries and congratulations. Uh,
Mr. Terry this item item number 2 will be also reported out
at the next meeting of the city council on May 12th, 2024,
or did I say June?
I said me. Oh something must have happened really good on
May 12th.
But I will say June June 12th 2024 for Miss vidil and June
12 for Mr. Terry. Is that it?
All right, Miss. We got you miss lady. Okay, can I get a
motion for the passage of item number 3 the appointment of
Miss Katherine lists, um to the Chicago Police board
So moved by Alderman Napolitano again, all those in favor.
Say I
All those opposed say nay and the opinion of the chair the
eyes have it. Um this motion carries now. Congratulations
Miss Liz. I just had a wonderful conversation with you. So
I really appreciate you a lot. Um this my this matter will
reported out in the next meeting of the city council on
June 12th, 2024, uh to each of you. Let me thank you, um
also as chairman of the committee on police and fire, uh
for stepping up it it you guys step into uh, your your um,
Your board positions, um in a very difficult time, um,
especially when there are a lot of cases, um, as Mr. Bane
even um spoke about there's a lot of cases before the
police board where uh, where there's a lot of public
scrutiny, um, um within you know on these cases and so, uh,
I ask that you go in and be fair and impartial, um, not
only to the police but to the public as well. Um Your Role
is not going to be a very easy 1 it's going to be very
difficult and it
Time that you do put on each case. Um, it's very important
to the outcome of that case. So, um, I sincerely thank you
for stepping up to the plate and serving the city in this
capacity as well as serving the Chicago Police Department.
So thank you and I look forward to um reporting these
matters out. Um this um tomorrow June 12th,
Thank you so much. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you everyone. Thank you.
Item number 4 will be held in committee at the request of
the chief sponsor there being no further business before
the committee on police and fire. Can I get a motion to
adjourn?
so moved by our vice chair all those in favor say I all of
those opposed say nay and opinion of the chair the eyes
have it and um, the motion carries in the committee is now
adjourned. Thank you.
you