here.
They all speaking.
You have to listen.
Why they have this we go all the way back.
No.
laughter and Canada.
We were here before.
God created a black man first.
consumer protection will now come to order.
We will begin with the roll call to establish quorum.
Vice chair Chico is present.
all our
Let's see. Alderwoman Coleman not present Alderman Moore
not present.
Alderman OSHA present Alderman Scott not present Alderman
Cardona
Alderman wax back
Alderman Conway alderman viegas
Alderman mitts not present Alderman spas
Alderman Napolitano not present Alderman Reilly
Alderman Lawson
Alderman Gardner not present alderwoman clay not present
Alderman Martin not present. We Alderman Silverstein's
present.
There are 9 members present and we have a quorum.
Um, if I could get a motion to recognize alderwoman myths
and Apollo Tano Scott and Gardner they're here virtually.
Uh, so moved by Alderman Reilly all in favor. Say I
and he opposed
and the opinion of the chairs. Well, the eyes have it. Okay
at this time, we will begin with the public comment period
the period is limited to 30 minutes.
Out of respect for everybody's time. Each speaker is
limited to 3 minutes.
We are going to start with.
Taiwan Sims
morning committee on house it going guys.
Uh, just back for another.
Wow.
Speaking. Um, so this my my first time in this committee
have I been coming continuously trying to
figure this pattern out that's going on in my life.
So there's a woman over at The Domestic Relations the da
Williamson.
This is a order of protection that she was able to obtain.
She is customer service. She is the manager of domestic
relations.
And she was able to obtain an order protection against me
saying that I'm stalking her for calling her out.
On the bull crap that's going on. I haven't seen my child.
And actually I'm in court today right now.
Over this whole matter that I've been dealing with I have a
small child by the name of yasuke Roosevelt Sims.
I haven't seen him in almost in 2 years almost.
However, I've come to this committee and keep coming to
these committees explaining this this woman was able to
obtain an order protection.
how the order protection number is to
What is it 24 op 07366?
Why isn't this lady been investigated? Why is why does she
still have a job?
She's part of um city government, right?
I was down at the what was it? Um
Starbucks and for a week now. I've been going to get a
child latte Grande because I've been fasting and I was
attacked by.
a Woman by the name of Desiree who explained to me that she
was the owner or
general manager or something come to find out that she's
head of Titan security here.
So she was felonious in her.
First, um what call so I just spazzed had the police call
call the police they came. So this was this is stalking,
but this is a point of what and Licensing y'all licensed
these people Titan security to work in Block 37.
And these people are attacking a I'm a I'm a constituent of
you alls.
Every last 1 of y'all represent me. So I want y'all to
protect me.
I want y'all to protect me all of you.
I'm call I'm saying all of y'all my representation see Joe
Lopez all of y'all. I don't know half of y'all names, but I
promise you I will know y'all names I'mma know y'all bios
and everything like you chairwoman. That's my first time
ever seeing you.
However, I want y'all to protect me as a as a constituent.
No, no, look at me. Tell a woman. This is the same
individual that's being stalked attacked.
See your Lopez.
dear, brother
Y'all know this.
Y'all want to make me crazy. Y'all want to make me out to
be what crazy or abuser or whatever it is, but we'll having
the money come up intelligent or what or being able to
speak up or being able to express what I'm going through.
What?
Y'all don't like to hear it. I'm the person that y'all
pushing pins, and hey stalk this guy make the try to push
him into a wall Mr. Sims here 3 minutes is up. Thank you. I
want to be please protect me, please. I also want to
welcome Alderman OSHA for purposes of quorum.
Alderwoman, mana hoppenworth and Alder Alderman citro Lopez
are also here not on committee, but thanks for being here.
Um
Our next witness is Zoe Lee.
Start good morning to the people, you know, I am part of
y'all even though ignore me. Um didn't start with the
second half for this voicemail from the Law Department of
City, Chicago.
Yeah, and this happened rather recently call Anya.
Delgado
I heard direct line is 3127445650. People send out the
paperwork or you to apply to the claims division, which is
like an insurance division that was in the city.
Um, which will consider the matter.
All right. So that's the second part. So David Moore was
supposed to you know, uh reach out to the committee on
finance at that time Ed Burke was um, the chairman the
second thing was that my mother was supposed to follow some
claims some paperwork with the city of Chicago for the
claim for demolish property that didn't happen. Uh, well,
she it it. It happened the issue was that uh, Dennis
Raphael who still res, uh who still works here so that the
um, the statute of limitations had expired and the statute
of limitations in um,
Illinois is 2 years. So that's insurance fraud. So on top of
the eminent domain you all the city of Chicago also
committed insurance fraud. Um, I'm not like I I just came
back from DC and um, I met with the justice department and
the senate floor was closed because of the holiday now, I
don't mind going there every other week if I have to
because either DC is going to do something or my mother's
Hometown is going to do something the fact that it's not 1
black Alderman in here, but Emma and I I don't even in
Stephanie Coleman and they they don't even they they don't
even come to any meetings anymore. But when it comes to you
guys and and and there's an there's a person been in
Lawson, you're probably the the the, uh, the gay the lgbtq
has an alderman. You don't even speak to me. I need help.
This was an injustice. Y'all hear what I have going on. I
should not be coming in here for a year. Okay. Y'all find
if the Democratic party finds y'all y'all y'all y'all work
on when it come anything that has to do with Injustice.
Is with hate crimes when it comes to the lgbtq y'all ready
to pinfold when it comes to black people getting shot by
the by the police. Y'all are ready to go crazy when it
comes to immigration.
Got we got to take care of them when it comes to the the
the the the injustices when it comes to Jews. Let's sit
back and we got to do everything we have to do but when it
comes to black people who are the black backbone of the
democratic party y'all don't have nothing to say like this
is not going to continue to happen. Like I don't this is a
new generation. I am not the 1 2 or 3 and I'm not playing
with y'all people are getting tired. People are seeing us.
You may think that y'all y'all can act like y'all don't
want to pay attention. But when I was in DC 5 different
people stopped me and said they keep seeing me here, so I'm
not playing with y'all.
Thank you. Um, I also want to recognize Allure, uh woman
Stephanie Coleman who's here virtually?
uh
George Blakemore
we missed the blank more.
Virtual it's it's not acceptable. They are telling you
something these black alums are telling you something.
They're not here.
Only really wipes. All right and Mexicans they black ones
are not here. They are telling you something God bless
them.
They are waking up.
The blacks are waking up.
The sleeping Giants they are not here.
They are telling you they don't want to I they they they
are tired of you.
in a misuse of the Church of life
She could easily be here.
anyway
racism is here.
Nepotism is here corruption is here and the way that you
treated me was totally racist.
When you let these white folks come here.
That when I was downstairs you have a list that indicated
they could come to your office. I didn't know they was
coming to this meeting.
And and I was locked out.
I wasn't allowed in in here. I had to to wait out there but
white power.
I want every 1 of you here to Google in on your phone Dr.
Call Anderson, but we're now historic and Economist
Googling. He know y'all real good.
He knows you real real good.
So he tells and educate our people but his book is white
wealth and black labor. So this is totally out of control
and then have this black man come up to me. Say you're
disrupting. You're going to arrest me. I'm coming to a
public meet. I was cut out of this meeting. I had to wait
outside and the white folks sitting down inside companies
evil here.
And something is wrong. But you are a member of a monarch
to religion. Well my religion the Judy, uh, Jewish religion
come from Ethiopia. This is our religion now, but and you
are minority, but what you have power because you have
money.
Money money. This is the ugly America a corrupt America a
evil America company is evil here and I can sit down over
here for my other 2 minutes or 1 minute, but the gas look
here all white.
lay right next to where the black
Thank you, Mr. Blakemore.
Our next witness is Jessica Jackson.
Good morning. Um.
As much as you might want to think that what we're saying
is not true as much as you want to think that when we say
false things are filed in your court system and false
paperwork is given as much as you all really want to
believe that it's the truth is you got a corrupt system
going on here. And the truth is all of you all know it and
the truth is you all expect. I think that black people are
supposed to really sit here see these injustices.
And just go along with it.
There are so many lies.
That are told on a regular basis.
I saw you miss Silverstein.
On the news conference and you were saying about the when
you sitting in the chambers and the public speakers are
there how you fear for your life?
When you're sitting there.
The only people who ever bothered you.
Was those Palestinians?
And they didn't really bother you. They were just talking,
you know trash in the in the in the chambers.
But at the time you tried to make it look like we were
bothering you when you know, that's a lie.
It's so many lies.
But you and your Jewish Community. Yeah want our heart to
believe go pity pattern because of the Holocaust.
And nobody will say that the Holocaust wasn't horrific.
Nobody would say that.
but to think
Yeah, look at them. Look at them. Look at no. No, no, no,
no. No, we not gonna uh, uh, we not going to do that. We're
not going to do that because we're not going to do that
because right now I'm exercising my freedom to speech and
I'm not offending anyone because black people were the
original Jews and we all know that so black people can't
even be anti-semitic so go on with that. I got a Jewish
lawyer right here on my estate that's stealing our
property. So don't you come telling me about who's innocent
and what I can't say? No, we not going to do that. Now I
met with Sergio virus said your Lopez
The other day, thank you. Thank you for shopping at
paperwork. It's my minutes up. I don't think they are but
see how you are allowed to break the law in the name of
because somebody out it hasn't been 3 minutes. Nobody of
arms. Nobody's offending you I'm saying what the truth is
I'm saying what the truth is.
you touch my
work your time. Your time has expired your time has
expired.
We your time has expired. Thank you very much. It don't
make it not be true. Don't make it not be true. You don't
make it not be true. We are going to have decorum and this
committee meeting.
Our Final witness is Paul Rosenfeld.
Uh, thank you madam. Chairman members of the committee
friends good to see you today. I'm here today not in my
capacity that I'm usually here in front of you. I'm here's
the owner of electric micro Mobility company called
electric movement. Uh, we're here today because uh Alderman
Silverstein has chaired or sponsored a ordinance that would
ban all batteries that are not UL certified here in the
city of Chicago and I'm here to support that bill. It's a
very good bill we need it for safety. Uh, I want to let you
guys know what's happening in other cities, especially in
New York when these batteries have been blowing up in towns
and we hear about that happening all the time. It's because
95% of them are coming from people who are converting their
regular bikes into electric bikes and they're using
off-brand not certified batteries to do that 90% of the
electric bikes that we're getting today and the batteries
that we're getting today in the city of Chicago are being
bought online that goes true for scooters as well these if
you guys really want to do
Something to ban these UL uncertified batteries The
Dangerous Ones. What we really need to do is have bacp put
out a cease and desist to the companies that are sending in
uh bikes here that do not have a safe batteries. They're
using non UL certified batteries. I encourage you guys to
really go after the online retailers, uh, which will help
all of us make sure that we're doing good job keeping our
constituent.
And safe and not having these things blow up. Thank you
very much for your time. You guys. Have a great day. Thanks
Paul. Thank you.
Okay, um that concludes our public comment for today. We
are actually going to move on to uh, today's items on the
agenda.
um
I'm going to move first to item number 6.
um difference to my colleague Alderman Reilly
Uh like to recognize Alderman Moore for Quorum. Also, I
believe I saw Alderman laspata was here. He's not on the
committee, but I thought I saw him in here. Um item number
6 is 02024 D 0000009 632 an ordinance to amend the
municipal code of Chicago Chicago lifting subsection. 4-60
Dash 022 parenthesis, 42.178 to allow additional alcoholic
liquor licenses on portion of Eerie Street, the chair
recognizes Alderman Reilly.
Thank you, uh chair chairwoman Silverstein. Um, we're as you
know, we have a a blanket of moratoria zones across the
42nd Ward that regulate liquor sales. Um, this was to get a
better handle on the types of operators that were coming
downtown and getting these licenses in this particular
case. Um, there's a Rita development underway for the
former Lowry's, um, which I think everyone is familiar with
it's an institution in Chicago, but they've moved on um,
and we're doing this to allow for a very unique
entertainment experience with fine dining, um, run by a
notable, uh local operator. But um, I'd appreciate the the
committee's favorable consideration and the neighborhood
association of record driven North residents Association
also support this
Uh this amendment.
Are there any questions by committee?
Honorable wax back moves to pass all in favor say I I any
opposed any opinion of the chair the eyes have it. The
motion is passed. Thank you madam.
back to the regular order of business
Um, we are going the second item now is uh the approval of
the rule 45 reports for May 2024, which were sent out to
the committee.
Alder Reilly moves to pass all in favor. Say I
Any opposed in the opinion of the chairs the eyes have it?
The report is approved.
Next up is 02024 D 0000000 7775. This is a substitute
ordinance to amend titles 2 and 4 of the Municipal Code by
adding new section 2- 36520 and new chapter 2-24 regarding
lithium ion batteries.
Battery safety standards from micro Mobility devices. Uh,
this is an ordinance that I introduced to council. Um, can
I get a motion to recognize the substitute Alderman Cardona
all in favor? Say I?
And he opposed in the opinion of the chairs. Um, the eyes
have it. Um, I am happy to have introduced this ordinance.
Um lith lithium ion batteries were the leading causes of
fires in New York City in 2023 with 268 related incidents
that resulted in 18 deaths and 11550 injuries. Um, so now
Chicago is um, tempting to regulate those this ordinance
requires e batteries and electrical systems to meet UL
safety standards effectively Banning the manufacturing
distribution sales leasing operation of e batteries and
systems that fail fail to meet the standards. It bans
reconditioned batteries and sets fines for violating the
ordinance. Um, we do have a few speakers here today.
Um, I want to call on.
Rob's loan the senior VP and chief scientist of us
Solutions. We also are going to have Patrick Clary the
president of Chicago firefighters Union Local 2.
And we also have Robert passen and the chief wagon officer
of radio flyers and Tim Stevens the director of engineering
of radio flyers. I now call Rob Sloan, um to give a few
remarks. Thank you.
Thank you and good morning. Uh, I'm Dr. Robert slow and I
serve as Chief scientist for UL Solutions. Is your
microphone on uh, maybe
Now it is. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So good morning. I'm
Dr. Robert Sloan. I serve as Chief scientist for UL
Solutions. I'd like to begin by thanking chair Silverstein
and the um, license and consumer protection committee for
this important, uh, safety legislation and for the
opportunity to testify today, uh, you all solutions history
began in Chicago, uh, William Henry. Ml Junior an
electrical engineer from Massachusetts was inspired to fail
Underwriters Laboratories after the organizers of the 1893
Chicago World's Fair hired him to evaluate the safety of
the wiring for the Palace of electricity today. You also
Solutions is located and headquartered just north of the
city in Northbrook, but it operates inspecting tests
inspection testing certification and advisory services
around the world our majority shareholder UL standards and
engagement and UL research institutes, share our mission of
working for a safer world through standards development and
independent research respectively micromobility equipment
like
Bikes and these scooters are a convenient climate friendly
Transportation option. However, a failure to meet product
safety standards has sparked a safety crisis as was
referenced earlier in New York City has experienced over
621 micromobility fires since 2021 resulting in 29
fatalities.
Cities from Toronto to London have also reported
significant jumps in micromobility fires over the past
several years as lithium-ion powered e-mobility has gained
in popularity.
Not only is this bill timely. It also has the right
elements to squarely address product safety challenges for
micro Mobility.
First the bill is comprehensive covering the electrical
system of the device as well as the battery the dangerous
thermal runaway reaction that leads to fires explosions in
the release of toxic gases is often the result of damaged
faulty or overheated lithium ion battery cells. However,
the safe performance of the battery also depends on its
compatibility with the electrical system that's used in and
the design and construction of these components.
second the bill references the American national standards
that were developed specifically to mitigate the fire and
electrical safety risks associated with ebikes other
micromobility devices and the batteries that power them you
all 2849 for ebikes you'll 2272 for E Scooters and yield
2271 for batteries were developed through a balanced
consensus driven process that convenes experts from across
industry and government.
We note that other ebikes standards often billed as a
equivalent to UL 2849 are more limited in scope than you
will 2849 and have less rigorous electrical system
requirements including for the battery.
Third this bill properly addresses Conformity assessment
through certification the process of certification includes
testing to evaluate whether the product meets the standards
testing requirements as well as a thorough engineering
evaluation to assess the products adherence to the design
materials and construction requirements of the standard
moreover certification includes ongoing surveillance under
the OSHA nationally recognized testing laboratory or nerdle
program products that are certified by the narrator are
required to have ongoing inspections of their manufacturing
facilities multiple times a year during those visits
products under production are assessed to verify that they
continue to comply with the standards certification is an
ongoing process that supports continued compliance.
Safety standards and product certification are consumer
friendly policies not a threat to a robust and Innovative
market for micro Mobility products prior to New York City
implementing these requirements. The number of certified
micro Mobility companies on the market was relatively low.
Today you all solutions is alone has certified ebikes for
approximately 50 ebike companies covering hundreds of
models when considering the number of ebike certified by
other third-party certifiers. The total number of certified
ebikes available is much higher.
You also Solutions strongly supports this ordinance and
applauds the efforts of aldermen Silverstein to protect the
citizens of Chicago from the fire and explosion risks
associated with micro Mobility devices. Thank you.
Thank you. Um before we take questions you can stay there.
I'm going to ask um Patrick Clary to come up and say a few
words and then um,
lastly we'll have some people from Radio Flyer and then
we'll open it up to questions too. All of you. Good
morning. Good morning. Can you hear me? Yes. Hi. I'm
Patrick Clarin the president of Chicago firefighters Union.
Thank you for having us here. I appreciate it. Um, I concur
with everything. He just said, uh,
we we respond the fire is night and day and
we haven't had the onslaught of fires at New York has had
just because these batteries have not made it this way yet
this far west but they're coming and uh, it's not just the
batteries. It's also the battery chargers. They need need
to be UL. Uh,
Supported you know, they have to be you all. Um, if you put
a battery in a non UL a UL battery in a non UL charger,
it's going to overcharge it. So it's it's a danger and when
I respond to high-rise fires or just on regular high-rise
runs, I see them charging these bicycles in their hallways
or if you go to a large apartment buildings, they're where
do they keep their bikes underneath the back porches? And
those are very combustible things. I mean if a back porch
catches fire that's tragic. So we need to stop.
The onslaught of these um, batteries and chargers that are
coming in that are secondhand not market rate, uh chargers
and batteries. Um, I know that the commissioner from New
York is currently seeking a federal ban if they're not uh,
UL rated. So anything you guys can do this is a public
safety issue. It's not just because I'm concerned about the
firefighters running into the burning buildings. It's it's
a public safety issue because the building's going to catch
fire.
And it's going to be tragic just like what happened in New
York. It's it's outrageous 600 fires 21 621 fires. That's
that's a lot. So anything you guys can do. I deeply
appreciate so thank you. Thank you. You stay there too. And
then if we could have Robert passen or Tim Stevens both of
you, could you maybe just scoot over and bring up a chair
so they can
and if you could just identify yourself.
I'm Robert pass and I'm the uh, CEO of Radio Flyer which we
also call Chief wagon officer.
Um, it's my pleasure to talk to you, uh today about radio
Flyers commitment to safety and how other e battery
companies can ensure their products are safe for the city
of Chicago for over a hundred years Radio Flyer has created
icons of childhood building a legacy of high-quality
Timeless and Innovative products that bring joy to families
around the G around the globe and since my grandfather
started the company on the west side of Chicago in 1917.
We've continued to design Safe products that families
trust, um, as leaders in designing world-class products for
hauling kids and cargo this expertise was instrumental in
creating our line of electric bikes for families, and we
want customers to have peace of mind when riding which is
why our electric bikes are intentionally designed and
rigorously tested to meet the highest safety and quality.
standards, so it's key that people are buying bikes that are
tested and meet UL 2849, which is a critical safety
standard as you already heard for ebike electrical systems.
The standard is currently voluntary and demand strict
testing requirements for manufacturers. Next Tim Stevens
our director of engineering and quality. A Radio Flyer is
going to share more on our compliance testing and
certifications.
Thanks Robert. So I'm Tim Stevens. Like Robert said I'm our
director of engineering and quality. So radio fire performs
compliance test testing with the help of several Global
recognized third-party Labs such as Underwriters
Laboratories or UL Solutions. Um and SGS. So both of these
labs are certified, uh to test UL ISO in D in uh standards,
which is a German cargo bike standard. Not only do Radio
Flyer electric bikes meet the UL 2849 electrical system
standard, but all electrical and mechanical systems undergo
extensive fatigue abuse performance and environmental
testing. So these internal requirements from radio fire
ensure that our frames forks and electrical systems meet
and exceed our extended warranties. Our flight speed
lithium ion batteries are tested to meet you all 2271, um,
the standard for Lithium-ion batteries and light electric
vehicles, um during product development. Our team works
battery safety experts to develop, um, our lithium ion
battery packs and make sure that our battery management
systems are robust and the battery protections have
multiple layers of protection
just as important is the safety of our batteries. As I said
before is the charging as well. So all of our chargers are
certified to UL 1310, which is a common standard for
lithium ion Chargers, um, in addition to electrical
testing. We also focus on a wide variety of mechanical
tests. So fatigue tests for our frame forks and handlebars.
All of our bikes are designed to meet ISO 4210. Um, it's an
international bicycle safety standard that covers the high
range of tests with high impact and fatigue and then for
our cargo bikes specifically, we follow uh, German
standards, which is din 7901, which is even an elevated, uh
requirements compared to ISO 4210.
Thank you. Um, I just uh, I think my question is for um,
Pat Clary from fire but anybody can chime in? Um when you
do have a fire from an ebike, um, you can't just get that
out with a hose and water. You need a lot of water to put
it out. It's not it's not like a regular flame where you
just spray water on the flame and the flame goes out it
continues to burn it puts out gases and and it provides its
own heat its thermal runaway and it just continues to burn.
So what we sometimes try to do is if you have it fill a
bathtub up with water and throw it inside the bathtub to
keep it in the water, but you can't always do that. The
best thing to do is to prevent prevent it from happening at
all, right? So yeah, it's extremely helpful. These are very
dangerous fires. Yes, they're hard to put out is
Just it's not a regular fire. It's it's different it it
propels itself and it continues and then even after they're
put out.
They can start to regenerate heat again and start up again,
especially with cars. I know we're talking about cars now,
but the cars we put the cars out. We take them to the
junkyard. They start up on fire again.
So the these batteries are very dangerous. They got to be
UL rated.
Is there anyone else that?
I totally agree. I guess identify yourself. Again Rob Sloan
Chief science field Solutions fully agree with with uh,
what patches said the 1
added item is
um in responding to these fires FDNY often times is getting
there in 3 minutes and it's not making a difference in the
health and safety outcomes for the public. These are not
traditional fires. These are more explosive than that. So
they they are more like um explosions. So so reducing the
frequency of the fires is tremendously important. It's also
important to um to provide infrastructure for charging, uh,
and storage of the of the batteries as well. So they're not
at all like traditional fires.
Does anyone have any questions?
Alright wax back.
Thank you chairman. Uh, this is uh for anybody to answer.
Um,
Do these uh, you mentioned somebody mentioned early on I
think Mr. Sloan these were or maybe Paul did Paul Rosenfeld
that these were online purchases. People are buying them,
you know, maybe cheaper ones online. Uh, do we see local
retailers selling these as well?
or maybe
selling ebikes or just the batteries the batteries. Um, I
don't know about the Chicago area. We do see that in New
York, uh in particular, I believe they're available
throughout the market. So it's not online only. Okay. Yeah.
I know. There's a couple of shops that recondition
batteries. I'm not sure if there's there's nothing there's
nothing currently to prevent any retailer from selling
batteries that are not certified.
yeah, and uh second, um
You know us I thought US Customs or dot regulated, uh, all
sorts of electronics and items do they set a standard as
well for what they allow in or are they just basically
saying
um
You know if they if they've been minimally tested or what
do what do they do? Because I I thought that they highly
regulate uh, these types of products coming from overseas.
I know. Yeah.
That's Tim Stevens from Radio Flyer. So a few years ago,
There wasn't a UL 2849 standard for ebikes. So the
government or the cpsc was referencing, uh, 16 CFR 1512.
It's the old bicycle standard. So it doesn't have any
electronic testing. So, uh years ago, that was the
reference or there was European standards to reference but
purely all voluntary and not regulated by the US and so
when they see uh, I I don't know if you kind of pushed this
to the National level, but if you're doing it in if they've
done it in New York, we're going to do it here, which I
think is a great idea.
Is there an effort to uh, push it to the National level? So
we're not seeing people walk over to Indiana or Wisconsin
buy it and bring it over here commissioner Kavanagh from
new New York fire department is currently doing it. Okay in
the process of it.
Excellent. Thank you. Oh, go ahead that that work is
underway. But as was referenced earlier having each step
along the path is super helpful. So if we are able to
provide these Protections in Chicago that helps also build
momentum for that that National legislation, okay?
Thank you very much. Gentlemen, hold on 1 Sado. Thank you.
Madam. Chair. Um great. Catch you whoever caught this. Good
job Paul good to see you all here. Um, my question is
though, obviously, we all support this. How do we enforce
it though? So, how do we enforce online sales? How do we
enforce? Uh, Radio Flyer is a mile away from Oak Park a
while.
Away from Elmwood Park. Um, how do we enforce suburbs people
bringing them over from the suburbs? So I mean my question
question is I don't know for us. Maybe we need to work with
the state on this maybe this needs to be a state thing
because I don't know how we can possibly enforce this, um
with people bringing them. I don't know.
Cross the border into Chicago which I would say, which
Flyer is real close to Oak Park and Elmwood Park, you know,
know, my word is surrounded by 4 Suburban to the suburbs
and bringing these into the city so I know we can afford so
we have a bike shop in Chicago, but
I'm worried about this getting out of control and just
people buying them from.
Online or in the suburbs. So is it something we maybe think
we need to work with what our state reps about. Do you have
any suggestions maybe so I'm just going to take a quick
stab at it. But of course, um, anyone else can chime in
because we've had these discussions and I know in New York,
um, their what they would call the ACP here is actually
they have worked with Amazon and Amazon, um is working is
not allowing. Um those products to go into New York. So my
next step what obviously be to to reach out to be here to
do the
Same thing and yes, of course, we're starting here in
Chicago, but would love to get this Statewide. This is you
know, these ebikes are very very dangerous and the more
support we can get
From our state and our surrounding suburbs, um the better
as far as I'm concerned we have we have to work together
obviously because it's like I see for me for you for Matt.
You know, we're all we're all surrounded by the suburbs
where they could just go across the street and get these
unsafe products. But but thank you very much if there's any
do you want to add to what I said or did I cover that
pretty well, I think you covered it very well, but the only
other uh layer I would add is I know from personal
experience that the FDNY is also very active and
enforcement. Um, they have people who are looking
especially for the shops that are are selling, um products
that are not certified along the way so they do have feet
on the ground to take a look at at um, what's happening, uh
within the communities so that has been a pretty important
part of enforcement within New York can can somebody's
people be ignorant to the fact of this or could they just
don't care do you they they they can be at times. So what
I'll say is if if the uh ordinance is passed its you know,
New York pass the law. We then have a way to uh,
At least within our organization also SGS and the others to
police our Mark. So when we see fraudulent products,
whether it's an online portal or a retail shop or whatever,
we have a way to then address that and and surface that and
take care of it without the regulation in place the
ordinance in place. There's no real um basis on which to to
help out with the enforcement piece of it.
All right. Thank you madam chair thank all of you for
speaking in this uh, very important and and dangerous item.
Are there any other questions?
ottoman Lawson
Thank you madam chair and maybe this is just more of a
comment, but I think we're going to see more or not less
batteries in our world and in our life for the next several
years do and this is a new issue for a lot of people
parents were buying things for children or for themselves.
We need to do more I think on education of of of battery
storage battery fires because I think this issue is going
to keep coming up. And so whatever we could do as a council
and and as individuals to help support that obviously we
will see if D is a great partner when it comes to that. So
wanted to put that out there, correct. Yeah, the public Ed
could probably put out articles to educate the public and
then also the fire prevention burial could do inspections
to look for these if they're not UL approved, right? So
because I again I just think we're going to see back, you
know, there there's there's more and more batteries in our
in every you come in this way, and I'd like to attack it
before it gets here because New York had a had a bad day.
So or a bad couple years I should say. No. I appreciate you
bringing us. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Do you have a
question?
Alderman OSHA
Thank you chairman. Um, yeah in line with some things we've
talked about. Uh, I'd like to work with you guys on
reaching out to Amazon.
Well, I think would be very receptive. Uh.
On this issue. I think we should reach out to our federal
partners and absolutely, uh our state partners and I would
volunteer to get my state Senator Senator Cunningham
engaged, uh, and my state representative. Uh, Mary Gill
engaged. Um, I like the idea of uh, public service
announcements coming from our uh, uh Bureau fire
prevention, uh,
At that, that's a great idea. Um, I think I speak for
everybody up here that uh, whatever we can do, uh to be
helpful with this and uh, if we could get everybody
probably get everybody's contact information, uh set up
some communication, uh,
Thank you.
Oh, wait, uh 1 more thing. Uh
I think we should engage with business Affairs and consumer
protection on um
Them getting more information out. Um
be best for that.
Uh Deputy Commissioner Chris Jessup, I think would be a
good start. Uh, wouldn't you agree?
I would absolutely agree. Okay. Um, so maybe we can uh
engage with him along with you guys. Yes, that's part of
the plan.
Any other questions?
Okay, can I then get a motion uh to pass?
Alderman Cardona moves to pass all in favor. Say I
any opposed
And the opinion of the chair is the eyes have it. The
motion is passed. Thank you all very much for being here
today. Thank you to our Witnesses and thank you so much for
the support. Thank you for supporting us.
Next on the agenda.
Is 02024 D 0000091? Thank you and ordinance to amend
section 4-6-22 and 4-60 023 of the municipal code of
Chicago to disallow additional alcoholic liquor licenses
and packaged good license in portions of the 10th Ward.
Um, I recognize Alderman Chico
Thank you madam chair.
Uh Madam chair after me and my team re-evaluating
moratoriums that have been lifted, uh prior to me taking
office. We are seeking to put those back in place to once
again have a better grip and control on the liquor licenses
coming back to the coming into the world. I look for this
committee's favorable.
boss apart on this matter
are there any questions?
Alderman Lawson moves to pass all in favor. Say I
any oppose
In the opinion of the chairs the eyes have it. The motion
is passed.
moving right along to 02024 D 0000096 23 a substitute
ordinance to amend section 4-60 D 022 of the municipal code
of Chicago to disallow additional alcoholic liquor license
and a portion of sermon Road, uh in Alderman CTO Lopez's
Ward. Can I get a motion to recognize the substitute?
Alderman spaz
and moves all in favor say I any opposed the opinion of the
chair of the eyes have it? The substitute is before us and
the chair recognizes Alderman CTO Lopez.
Sure.
Thank you. Uh, thank you chairwoman. And then the
substitute was just just for clarity and the um, the m has
been in place for quite some time the um the community
sorry. Thank you. Can you hear me now? Yeah, thank you. Um
Yes again with just a substitute was just a technicality.
Um, um, or Community has got these more return for quite
some time. There was lifted temporarily and are we doing is
putting it back in back in place in an area that you know
is is uh sensitive uh for
For residents, so we asked for favorable consideration of
the committee.
Are there any questions?
Alderman VA has moved to pass all in favor. Say I any
opposed any opinion of the chair the eyes have it and a
motion is passed. Thank you chairwoman.
Item number 7 on the agenda is 02024 D 0000096 an ordinance
to amend the municipal code of Chicago lifting subsection
4-60 022 parenthesis, 47.49 to allow additional alcoholic
liquor license on a portion of Montrose Avenue in Alderman
Martens Ward is Lucy.
This was right, right.
Did I skip 1 no, I'm sorry. I skipped 1 I'm going to call
up Lucy.
Nate is that right night.
Um, do you want me to start or wait for the other item? No,
go ahead. All right. Sorry. I went out of order. I
apologies. No worries. Um, I'm Lucy Nye. I am staffed to
Alderman Martin. I'm here on his behalf today. Um, as you
can make it to the meeting
Alderman Martin introduced this ordinance to lift the tavern
moratorium on Montrose Avenue from Western to the river to
allow dog friendly bar. The b r to open at 2457 West
Montrose. Um, this comes after the bar received zba
approval for a special use permit for their Tavern license,
um, in addition to participating in a community meeting the
bar worked with our office and neighbors to address
concerns related to waste management noise abatement and a
proposed outdoor patio and in response to noise concerns,
the applicants have agreed to forego seeking a patio
license. So they're just seeking The Tavern license. Um,
this proposal is also supported by the north central
neighbors Association as well as the Lincoln Square
Ravenswood Chamber of Commerce. Thank you.
Are there any questions by committee?
Vice chair Chico moves to pass all in favor. Say I
any Nays and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it? The
motion is passed. Thank you very much. Thank you, and I am
sorry I went out of order. So I'm going back to item 5.
Which is 02024 D 0000000 9344 and ordinance to amend the
municipal code of Chicago lifting subsection 4-60 023
parenthesis 33.34 to allow the issuance of additional
package good licensed on a portion of Belmont Avenue in
Alderman Ramirez roses award the chair recognizes.
Good morning, uh chairwoman Silverstein and members of the
committee on licensing and consumer protection, uh for the
record Charles Sturridge, um 35th Ward. Um, I am here this
morning to testify in support of an ordinance. We
introduced to Lyft the packaged Goods moratorium on a
portion of West balm on Avenue. Uh, the purpose of this
ordinance is to allow the operator of a um new uh
convenience store that is working to open, um in that area
to obtain a packaged Goods license, uh, this area was um
previously in the 333rd Ward and the operator had
initially, um, engaged the 33rd Ward office around lifting
that moratorium. Um, they've advised us that they were um,
Satisfied um, they were pleased with um, the operator, um
how they went through their Community process. Um, and so
we want to um, respect and honor, um that process and those
um,
uh conversations that occurred previously with the 33rd
Ward and so are hoping to uh close the loop on the
legislative side today to um, allow the operator to um,
obtain their package because license, um, happy to answer
any questions and um, if not, I humbly ask your favorable
consideration of this ordinance. Thank you. Are there any
questions?
Alderman OSHA moves to pass all in favor. Say I
Any opposed any opinion of the chair the eyes have it the
motion is passed. Thank you chair.
Um the final item which was on our agenda is going to be
held and committee. Um, I do think that um Alderman Lawson.
Did you want to say anything at this point? Sure. Thank you
madam chair. I I just um, I want to you know, uh,
thank everybody who worked with me on this. It's not uh,
it's not there. Um, but there will be something I think to
talk about, uh down the line about about alcohol sales on
Sundays, but uh, I would like to move to defer this item.
Thank you.
Um, this concludes the agenda of the committee on license.
The past matters will be reported out as a recommendation
to pass at the next city council on June 12th. 2024. I will
not be there. It is a Jewish holiday. So I'm going to defer
to my vice chair Chico to do that for me. Um there being no
further business before the committee. Can I get a motion
to adjourn?
Alderman Oshay moves, um hearing no objections so order the
meeting is adjourned. Thank you.