police and fire is called to order we will now have a roll
call to establish a quorum. Please note that a yes vote may
be Dean is a yes Vote or or yes or president may be deemed
as a yes vote for a later role call if used as a quarrel.
Alderman Robertson
Alderman Hall
Alderman Mitchell
alderwoman Lee
Alderman Curtis
alderwoman Taylor
Alderman Mosley
alderwoman tabaris
Okay, I did see here.
Alderman Irving
Alderman Cardona
Alderman spaz
alderwoman nent
Alderman Napolitano
alderman knutzen
Alderman Gardner
alderwoman clay
alderwoman Silverstein
We have 11 members present. We do have a quorum.
and pursuant to rule 59
uh Vice chair Lamont Robinson
alderwoman Janette Taylor
has requested to appear by video conference. Can I get a
motion for the approval?
so moved by Alderman Irving
Although all those in favor signify by saying I all those
opposed nay and opinion of the chair. The eyes have it.
Please add Vice chair Robinson and alderwoman Janette
Taylor, um as present for purposes of a quorum
Uh, we will now begin public comment. Our first Speaker
doing public comment will be Mr. Blakemore Mr. George,
Blakemore.
How about
I was over here where where the Jewish people of protest.
And and no problem of my active friends activists didn't
let me know about this 1 I want to be close.
Mr. Blakemore want to be closed.
a 081 year old man 82
I don't believe that hold up Public Safety.
an accountability the most racist of our agency and our
department is the
Department
And the police department.
50% of the policemen are white
40% Hispanic
10%
Right now what about that?
What about that?
And I have the rush over. I was watching the Jews over
there little whatever blacks on United and protest know.
On the plantation the white man must have made a in.
No protect.
nothing
because maybe you're not about enough.
No, you got to turn your niggga a into a strong black man
and woman.
Is something wrong here you got Black Faces in high places.
the
you
believed God sent me here.
to tell you nobody
Thank you, Mr. Blake Moore. Our next speaker is Jasmine
Smith. Our next speaker. Is Miss Jasmine Smith.
Jasmine Smith
Thank you, Miss Smith. You had 3 minutes.
Thank you. Oh.
Well, I'm not gonna use this whole 3 minutes. I just want
to say good afternoon everyone. I am activist Jasmine Smith
with Chicago alliance against racist and political
repression. I just want to um,
Say that.
Um, we thankful for this opportunity and that we're
grateful that the opportunity has come fast like we needed
to to call for the commission to be appointed today because
the city really needs this body to to be appointed and to
be put in place so we can really start making changes and
getting Justice and and getting these communities ran the
way that they should be ran but our Public Safety.
Thank you, Miss Smith.
our next speaker
Melissa mahabir
If I'm pronouncing that your last name, I apologize if I
mispronounced it.
Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
the pharaoh
Vice chairman Robinson and esteemed members of the
committee on police and fire
Thank you for the opportunity to address you today. My name
is Melissa mahabir and I'm a resident of the 30th Ward and
the 25th police district and I would like to comment on the
nominations for the ccpsa commission.
As a member of 1 north side. I played a part in working on
an advocating for the passage of the ecps ordinance and to
be on the verge of appointing the first permanent
commission is thrilling to all of us who have worked so
hard to get it passed.
I want to express my enthusiastic recommendation for
commission nominee Aaron Gotti. I've known Aaron for 15
years and I've seen firsthand what an extraordinary social
worker and advocate he is.
When Aaron moved to Chicago in 2016, he immediately looked
for a way to get involved in his community.
He searched out organizations and found 1 North Side after
reaching out to the organizers. He quickly joined their
police accountability team and from there. He played an
active role in advocating for the passage of the ordinance
in meetings with other community members across the city
also working on the ordinance Aaron always demonstrated his
deep commitment to the spirit of the ordinance and his
desire to get everyone's needs heard.
He was a leader on our team and his thoughtful and
intelligent observations helped us continue making progress
and moving forward.
additionally Aaron's career is focused on how to improve
the criminal legal system to make it more fair and more
just
he has studied reform efforts conducted his own independent
research is a sought-after speaker and teaches Masters in
PhD PhD level students on the issue his work and his
mentorship of students have both been recognized by Awards
as a fellow social worker. I trust Erin's value is a
fairness and Justice and I know that he has the work ethic
to give this position everything. It deserves. In fact in
my own work when I have questions about whether or not I'm
thinking about things in the right way and especially when
ethical issues arise Aaron is actually the first person I
turn to
he has consistently helped me think through problems and
has always provided me with thoughtful sound feedback. I
know he will bring all of these strengths to the commission
and I can't think of a better person for the job.
I ask for your favorable consideration of Iran today. Thank
you again for your time and service.
Thank you, ma'am.
our next speaker
Is frenia Mendoza Lua?
Hello. Good afternoon. Good afternoon.
Um, my name is uh, first of all, thank you so much chairman
talifero, uh, Vice chairman Robinson and his team members
of the committee of police and fire. Uh, thank you for the
opportunity to comment today, um on this ccpsa
Commissioners nominations. Uh, my name is fania. Meno.
Salua. I'm a social worker and a resident of the Fifth Ward
and police district 2 and I would like to comment on the na
nominations for ccpsa commission. Specifically Dr. Iran God
Lees nomination, Dr. Godley is a committed. It's committed
to promoting criminal legal change through his published
and highly cited research examining the criminal criminal
legal system and the ways the system exacerbates racial and
social inequity in the United States. Uh, this prolific
work has been cited by a number of media Outlets including
the New York Times and the Atlantic and his commitment to
promoting criminal legal change extends to public service
and practice.
Which includes appointments by the mayor's office to the
Chicago Police use of forced work group and he has
collaborated collaborated with Community groups across
Chicago to help pass the empowerment empowering empowering
communities for Public Safety ordinance. Finally. I've had
the privilege of of drib serving as my mentor while a
doctor as a doctoral candidate at the University of Chicago
Crown Family School of Social Work policy and practice.
He's a champion. He champions my goals ensures that every
step of the research Pro, uh, research problem solving is
collaborative and most importantly that I have agency in my
decision-making processes and these qualities. I believe
are integral for individuals in a board dedicated to just
and thoughtful Public Safety approaches for Chicagoans,
like myself. Therefore. I believe Dr. Godley would be an e
be excellent in his role as ccpsa commissioner. Thank you
for your time and service.
Thank you, ma'am.
uh, and also let the record reflect the vice chair Robinson
is here present rather than um, um via Zoom,
Our next speaker is Zoe Lee Miss Lee.
Um yesterday I was at the uh, finance and committee meeting
and the Law Department had 4 cases.
And they're all it's always a city paying out for the
police.
Um for the past year, I've been going to the committee on
finance meetings always.
The um City paying out for the police for their negligence,
but it's never the negligence of the city of Chicago
departments like the building department who knocked down
my mother's building.
without
compensation still which is eminent domain, you know, and
um, we have a federal court case that we're waiting 6
months now for the judge to make the ruling but there's
people who sit on this body.
such as 17th Ward Alderman David Moore who can sit down
with my mother and do the first option at the Law
Department said which is offer her some type of money so
she can go back so he can go back to the committee on
finance and see if they if you guys can just settle this
case, but instead I've been coming down here for a year
can't get no can't get nothing from the meeting.
Because y'all done got it blocked at the media can't do
anything. So I got to do this and then post it on my social
media because this is a new generation and our mother's
going to get Justice regardless or not. I'mma buy buy any
means necessary type of person so she gonna get it. It's
always a body for everybody else. Congratulations. Y'all
are about to be appointed.
But there are people on the South Side on the West Side
whose buildings are being demolished or being stolen from
the city of Chicago Buildings Department from the Cook
County.
All of it, but we can't get no help we can't get no media.
We can't get anything. You know, why because if if if it
comes out, it'll be a Floodgate everybody every black
person in here. I promise know somebody who's building has
been taken from delinquent taxes, uh, eminent domain
probate any anything. That's our generational wealth.
That's my generational wealth. You see over there. Today is
Israel first Palestine in Chicago biting over some land.
That's not even here. I'm in Chicago fighting for my land
and I can't get no help.
From the police from anybody.
Thank you. Miss Lee.
Our next speaker Mr. Taiwan Sims
Mr Sims
Um Aaron, which 1 is Aaron.
You okay? Good you like the specialists in Justice and
equity?
And my hand right here. I have documentation of each and
every time I was denied that
it said in our constitution Justice and liberty for all.
Carefully you can take copies of this.
Follow up with it because I'm going to speak about
something else. We do protests we have protesters.
We do stand with each other. We do love each other, but
there is a great disregard for black Americans in this
city, especially when dealing in the law because we are not
to be protected but prosecuted.
And it has to be revised that thought that simple thought
right there has to be revised.
that
protection versus prosecution because if I was protected
then I wouldn't be going through this.
I would not I would not be suffering under for a year now
under the courts.
Under the rest of arrest and all these different things.
But I also would not have to come here where I'm undermined
it even by the people that should be standing with me.
So once again gentlemen black Alderman black Alder women, I
apologize if y'all feel a sad and assaulted by the words
that come out of some individuals, but we have to prop each
other up y'all.
We have to we got to be accountable for them to get in
power. But if they might exercise they automatic power we
have to be with them.
See we can't just keep kicking kick and kick and having
somebody because they wear our skin tone.
Able to kick because they feel they have the right tool
able to degrade because they feel they have the right to
you don't.
Because you it's now on time or I seen any empowerment in
those words, but you speak highly of all these other
nations. So I'm going to speak highly of this nation
because we are a resilient Nation. We stand under the
weight of what what police abuse how long from Rodney King
always until now.
From Rodney King all the way till now.
Trayvon Martin know just all these little different
instances Mike all these little different instances.
pallando all these little different instances where we are
totally
Not giving our justify right?
To what constitutional they put us in a cup with that 1.
Ah, what's that 1 for 1 what?
But we not look see so we gonna have somebody in this room
keep spouting that slavery issue, but we was Prisoners.
Prisoners not slaves. We ain't come over here wanting to do
this. But some of our some of the people out here now that
strive against us our servant to indentured y'all want to
be slaves.
To empower a system against another people just so y'all
can have a little purchase.
They ain't no justice in that.
So I I don't subscribe to all the madness. I'm not
subscribing to it.
So we try to empower us we have to empower us standing this
thing. Look we going to say what we need to say for us if
it's not about black empowerment and black power. It
shouldn't be said that's how I feel about it.
Because you dragging the wrong people this system was set
up around us. Not for.
Thank you Mr. Sims.
Our next speaker is
Charles Spence Charles Spence
Mr. Spence, yes.
Thank you committee for this opportunity to speak and for
your attention.
I am here asking for someone to author an ordinance.
Obtaining a surveillance drone for each Police District in
the city.
I am here because I asked my local Alder 4 times between
februari 13th and May 12th. What has to be done and who has
to do it?
Finally on May 13th for office replied and stated. We do
not believe that they are required at this time.
Myself and others do believe they are of use.
I can offer real world proof of this on April 21st, a
license plate reader in 18 identifies a stolen vehicle. It
was tracked by a CPD helicopter into 20 where officers on
the ground apprehended its occupants without incident a
perfect Confluence of Technology surveillance and
personnel.
That type of policing should be available to every District
every day.
drones are easy to obtain if there is not an approved vendor
and an applicable contract put it to bid or use a reference
contract as was done for shot spider.
As for money just last month here in Chicago, Merrick
Garland announced an allocation of 78 million in grant
money for violence prevention.
The cost to the city is minimal. You don't need to 12
million dollars for 2 B 407 helicopters, which are in the
24-bit.
The police department in Deerfield last year bought a
matrice model 30d drone for $20,000.
Will outfit each district in the city with its own drone.
As for the legality of this that has been addressed as
well. The FAA has a public safety and law enforcement
toolkit available at faa.gov.
They even provide the opportunity for municipalities
themselves to obtain a certificate of authority. So they
themselves can train their own drone operators.
Illinois State Police already uses drones
and last June Governor pritzker signed House Bill 3902
allowing local governments to basically decide for
themselves.
How do you use?
That technology.
Notably the ACA the ACLU was neutral on the bill.
Drones are effective drones are efficient drones are
affordable.
They would provide numerous.
Assistances in public safety ladies and gentlemen, will
someone please take this up and get thank you, sir.
You're more than welcome.
Our next speaker will be Aviance or Aviance cob.
Miss cob
Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon. My name is avian
scab and I am here on behalf of IB are minor, um, newly
appointed commissioner. Um, I'm a former Chicago public
school teacher and the executive director of holy breath
conglomerates nonprofit organization, and I just want to
share um,
A recommendation that I wrote for IBA many years ago. So
proud of you and you got this this work is for you my dear.
It says as a diploma French student I buyer take risk and
as an avid advocate for herself as well as her fellow
classmates.
I'll be a thoroughly completes all assignments and works
tirelessly to assist others who are struggling.
She continues to flourish as she communicates with foreign
students from various frana phone countries and makes
numerous cross-curricular connections.
She continuously seeks occasions to improve her French
skills.
By listening to French music and watching French movies.
III is a leader in her own, right?
Outside of the classroom. She is a member of the National
Honor Society student council LSC student representative
GSA French Club. BSI. Ambassadors book club discussion
moderator Fab Lab young Freedom leaders improv comedy and
several other organizations that promote social justice and
student leadership opportunities. I just reconnected with
abier a few weeks ago. And when I saw her all I could do
was cry. I am so proud of you I am so proud of you. This is
your work.
You've been doing it forever and I just want to encourage
you as you take as you go on this journey.
Um to continue to help people you were helping your
classmates. You helped the teachers. I just remember when
you when I was organizing the student voice committee how
you were the first to step up and I know you're going to be
the first to step up when it comes to social justice issues
on the south and west side, so I'm here and I'm I'm just so
proud of you my dear.
Thank you, ma'am.
A last speaker.
Miss Teresa Hughes
Miss Hughes, okay.
Hi, my name is um TJ Teresa Hughes Ian Allen. Good
afternoon better known in this Arena as TJ. I have over 30
years experience working in city government with some of
the most
Best mayor starting from Harold Washington, Jean Sawyer and
even Rich Daly for me. Okay for me.
Um, I'm here because George.
Uh has known me for years and when he told me about this
particular meeting, I really didn't have any idea of what I
would be saying.
because my goal is
to be an advocate for my people in whatever.
Aspect that I can.
my my purpose
is to help my black contractors women and men to get their
fair share.
And equity in all of these millions of dollars billions of
dollars of contracts going out through this city.
for
in the police department work to be done in aviation and
procurement.
And so to you people here, I don't know you but you look
really good.
I am going to be watching you. I am an advocate.
I am going to hold you accountable. I think I know you I
think I seen you at another day. Yeah, right. So and I want
you to hold us accountable. I want you to hold the
committee accountable.
and
that's basically what I want to say. I wish you the best.
Okay, so that's for the other committee George that's not
for this committee. Is it?
everybody
Okay. Well the thing about that we've done some research.
I've done a 4 year request to procurement. Um, and when I
found out at let me just say this I worked in the city 30
years and I did have some time when procurement Services
Under the previous procurement Deputy Commissioner Troy
Ratliff and Carney's carry who were fabulous. We got the
jobs done. We had contracts we had more minority and women
contractors to receive contracts.
Uh ever started from mayor Washington now I can make 30
years later.
And it's down here is I mean, it's like ridiculous. I don't
understand how it could go from where we were.
to down so low that black contractors and we work, you
know, and I'm going to say this there are some who who
don't I mean I don't I'm not here to advocate for those
people who get, you know those under the table and let you
use my name to get the contract. I don't believe in that
and I will call their asses. I mean I will call them out,
you know.
So, but for the people that are that look like me who have
the skills. Thank you.
no, we
thank you have.
That concludes our public comment. Let me thank all of our
uh speakers for appearing today and um speaking Mr.
Blakemore. I'm gonna ask that you please respect the body
here and keep it.
God bless you as well.
Um
pursuant to rule 59 Alderman Curtis has requested to appear
by way of video conference. Can I get a motion to allow
Alderman Curtis to appear by video conference?
So moved by Alderman Irving all those in favor. I
all those opposed nay and opinion of the chair the eyes
have it Alderman Curtis will be counted as present for
purposes of a quorum today. Thank you. Um, each of you
should have received a email on April 16th for a copy of
the rule 45 report for meeting held on April 1st, are there
any questions or comments?
There being no questions or comments. Um, may I get a
motion for the passage of the roof 45 report?
so move all them in the politano all those in favor say I
All of those opposed nay and opinion of the chair the eyes
have it the motion carries. There are 2 matters before the
committee today. Um the first being ordinance 2024 Dash
77570 amendment of Municipal Code title 2 and 4 by adding
new section 2- 36-5 and new chapter 2-4 regarding lithium
ion battery safety standards for micro Mobility devices.
Can I get a motion to revert to this item to the committee
on licensing and consumer protection?
So so moved by Alderman Cardona all of those in favor. Say
I
all those thank you all those opposed name and opinion and
chair the eyes have it. Um, the man this matter, uh, Miss
passed and will be re-referred to the committee on licensed
and consumer protection. Um, we do have um,
vice mayor Walter Bernett who's joined us today, and we
counted as president.
The second item, um, before we go on to the second item on
the um agenda, which was the appointment of members of
Commissioners of the Chicago Community commission for
Public Safety and accountability. Uh, let me first
recognized, um in present in
In a box today, um, the executive director of ccpsa, um,
Adam gross Adam. Thanks for joining us today.
and also let me think, uh, the previous committee the
interim committee for um over to believe the last year and
a half, um that have worked tirelessly on promoting sound
and good policy for our Chicago Police Department of 2 of
them which are joining us today as well. And so um, I
sincerely thank them for their service to the city of
Chicago. I want to thank the nominating committee also, uh
for putting in quite a few hours, uh,
Hi, there is some there's some Round of Applause here. I do
join you because uh, they did a fantastic job in presenting
the names to the mayor for presentation before this
committee today. So let me give the nominating committee,
um a round of applause as well, uh the second item
Uh before the committee is the appointment.
Of the Commissioners, uh Anthony driver or to the position
of commissioner of the Chicago Community commission for
Public Safety and accountability. Um, the appointment of
Anthony driver Junior as commissioner.
the appointment of Aaron Godley as commissioner
the appointment of ibera minor as commissioner.
the appointment of Kelly Presley as commissioner
the appointment of Angel Number Navaro. I hope I got that
right angel.
as commissioner
Um the appointment of Romel Terry as commissioner and the
appointment of Sandra Wortham as commissioner.
before we begin our questions and comments, um, each of our
commissions commit or each of our appointees will be given
3 to 4 minutes for opening statements beginning with um,
the appointment of the opening statement of Anthony driver
Junior.
Um, we can hear you.
Mr. Driver can can you hold on just 1 second? Um L. Do we
have the microphone here? Can you see if you could turn on
the microphone right beside um, Mr. Driver?
Test test we could hear you now.
For the past 20 months. It has been an honor of a lifetime
to serve the residents of the city of Chicago under my
interim presidency. The ccpsa is gone from a new unknown
government agency with 1 employee to a trusted City agency
that's working hard to reach every corner of the city.
We have met all of our statutory obligations while being
Innovative in our approach to Public Safety. We have opened
the police board up to Everyday Chicago ones and not just
those that are connected. We've also lived 1 of the most
inclusive and transparent police chief searches in the
country. We have passed general orders and collaboration
with Chicago Police Department that we believe will go a
long way in remedying past mistakes whether holding
meetings in Chinatown with mandarin and Cantonese live
translations or having a superintendent Forum dedicated
solely to the disability Community. We have sought to build
a big tent with Chicagoans from all walks of life feel
welcome.
The ccpsa has held meetings in every part of town and
engaged several dozen constituent groups.
We are working hard to ensure that every chicagoan has a
seat at the table when it comes to policing and Public
Safety.
We've also intentionally created a space that seeks the
input of rank and file members of the Chicago Police
Department who are also a vital part of our community.
Through that engagement we successfully advocated for the
end of the policy of consistently canceling officers and
regular days off.
We push for more predictive scheduling that affords them
stability in time with their families. We have also been
pushing for more Mental Health Resources and to hold City
departments accountable for many of the Deployable
conditions that officers work in every day. These are a
small portion of what we have accomplished as an interim
body. I'm forever grateful to the city council for allowing
me to serve in this capacity for the last 2 years and for
the amazing event from Commissioners. I've had the
privilege to serve alongside. I believe we have a long way
to go and build Upon Our successes while avoiding the
failures of the past. That is why I'm respectfully asking
for your favorable consideration today. Thank you. Thank
you Mr. Driver. And then if this speakers can keep please
keep it as brief as possible.
Thank you, Mr. Um Godly good afternoon. Chairman Talya
Ferro Vice chairman Robinson and esteemed members of the
committee on police and fire.
Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to be here
today. My name is Aaron got I'm a Northside resident of the
30th ward in 25th police district, and I'm excited and
honored to be considered for the ccpsa commission.
I have dedicated my career and much of my life outside of
work to issues around Public Safety and Criminal Justice
Reform as a faculty member award-winning researcher and
award-winning graduate student Mentor at University of
Chicago's Crown Family School.
I've spent 15 years studying teaching and researching the
criminal justice system.
Through this work. I have developed analytical skills to
interpret policy language and to synthesize and evaluate
large amounts of evidence.
My experience is not just academic as a social worker and
Community Advocate. I have more than 10 years of of
experience working alongside people who have been harmed by
Community violence and our criminal justice system to help
create change that leads to Greater Community safety and
more effective than just policing.
I'm excited to become a commissioner because I want to help
make Chicago a safer place for all people in our city. I
believe strongly that implementing the ecps ordinance with
input and effective collaboration between key stakeholders
such as the police Community Advocates District counselors
Commissioners and members of this committee and the city
council.
Will lead to increased safety for Chicagoans. I'm confident
that my academic expertise in criminal justice policy and
evaluation and experience working alongside both community
members and the police towards reform will be assets to the
commission. I also know that the work ethic objectivity and
evidence-based decision-making commitment to community and
ability to work. Well in diverse groups that I bring to any
job will serve me well as a commissioner
in closing, I feel a personal moral responsibility to
continue to use the school the skills that I've spent many
years developing to help our city make progress on issues
related to Public Safety and policing and I strongly
believe that serving on the commission is the most
effective way for me to do. So, I want to thank each of you
again for giving me the opportunity to speak with you
today. I'm requesting the committee's favorable
consideration.
And I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank
you, sir. I'll be your minor.
Thank you.
greetings Sher Talya Ferro
vice president vice chair, excuse me, Robinson and members
of the committee as well as members of the general public
who are here to support us today. My name is Abby are
minor. I'm a child of God and the eldest daughter of
Iranian Flournoy and the legendary late Durrell minor
Junior.
I am from Chicago's Fourth Ward Bronzeville community in
the first police district. I stand before you today as a
Southside youth appointee for the community commission for
Public Safety and police accountability. I bring a unique
perspective and proven track record of working
collaboratively to promote Public Safety and social
justice.
As a former policy and budget staffer for the Illinois
Senate Democrats and current Southside organizer for the
people's Lobby. I understand the nuances of public policy
and grassroot perspectives. These experiences have allowed
me to confidently navigate contentious discussions
effectively negotiate with various stakeholders and write
sound policy proposals as the chief of staff for state.
Senator, Maddie Hunter our coordinated key task force
centering on Public Health Equity and social justice.
For example, I helped Revitalize the 5-year dormant kidney
disease and education kidney disease prevention and
education task force demonstrating my commitment to
advancing the Chicago Community. I am driven to serve the
community commission for Public Safety and police
accountability because I am committed to working
collaboratively with residents officers and institutions to
create lasting change my experience as a policy a public
policy and Community organizing has given me the the skills
to navigate this Arena effectively.
as commissioner
some of the issues I'm committed to addressing is reducing
structural violence addressing racial disparities in
Chicago's clearance rates, implementing strategies to
proactively
Hi, I'm so sorry. I was gonna say hallelujah. I love God
implementing proactive measures to ensure the safety of
domestic violence Survivor supporting crimes and fostering
a legitimate Equitable and transparent relationship between
the members of the community and the police. I am committed
to creating a safer fairer and more harmonious Chicago. I'm
open to any questions you may have and I hope for the
favorable consideration of this committee. Thank you. Thank
you, Miss. Uh, Miss minor
Kelly Presley
Thank you.
This is a song.
I should be on.
greetings chairman halia faroh greetings Vice chair chair
Robinson and members of the committee.
My name is Kelly Presley. It is my esteemed honor to stand
before you and ask for your favorable consideration to
serve on the community commission for Public Safety and
accountability.
For the past 17 years I have served as an attorney and a
public servant.
For the last 5 years I've resided on the 20 in the 27th
Ward on the west side of Chicago 12th Police District.
I believe that my legal Acumen impartiality and commitment
to Public Service particularly the Youth of Chicago make me
an ideal candidate to serve on this Commission.
I began my legal career at the Cook County public Guardians
office where I had the distinct honor of representing
children who were Wards of the state.
I transitioned from that role to serving as Regional
Council for the Illinois Department of Children and Family
Services.
From there. I served in various roles at the Illinois
Department of Corrections, including Deputy general counsel
Chief Public Safety legal counsel ethics officer and chief
of affirmative action.
I currently serve as the associate general counsel at the
ca at Catholic Charities of the arch Diocese of Chicago.
While my time at IDOC most closely aligns with the goals of
this commission. I draw much of my passion for my previous
experience.
It is through my previous experience that I became aware of
the pipeline that disproportionately follows young black
men from being Wards of DCFS to being Wards of IDLC.
The correlation is daunting.
I hope that this commission can enhance policies to
encourage positive interactions between the Chicago Police
Department, and those they serve.
I believe this is 1 way that we can reduce the over
representation of minorities in the custody of IDLC.
When I bring to this commission is a willingness to work
collaboratively to create Solutions.
I promise to listen to all the facts and examine all
available evidence prior to passing judgment.
I will be thoughtful and creative to enhance policies and
relationships that increase Public Safety.
These are just a few reasons. I believe I will be a
positive addition to this commission. I respectfully
request a vote of favorable consideration at thank you for
your time.
Thank you, Miss Presley. Um, Angela Hill.
Thank you chair, uh chair Talya Ferro Vice chair and
members of the committee on police and fire. Good
afternoon. My name is angel ruby Navaro and I am deeply
honored to stand before you today as a nominee for the
commissioner on the community Commission on public safety
and accountability.
I bring to this nomination 4 years of dedicated service and
all levels of government passionately advocating for
critical political issues such as immigrant rights
Equitable Economic Development and supporting our youth
my journey started in Albany Park where I was raised and
now I reside in Portage Park within the 16th Police
District.
From a young age growing up in Chicago as a son of
immigrants and a proud DACA recipient. I have experienced
firsthand the dharmas nature of our relationship with law
enforcement both positive and negative. These experiences
have taught me the complexities of young people's
interactions with police and has fostered my commitment to
enhancing this relationship through dialogue and mutual
understanding
As the Chicago Public School alum and someone who has
watched his mother transition from a single mother learning
English at truman to a small business owner in this great
City. We are a testament to the opportunities that Chicago
could offer
it is my profound. Hope to ensure that every young person
in our city feels safe heard and empowered regardless of
where they live or what they look like.
In my professional capacity. I have been instrumental in
creating Public Safety plans launching neighborhood
initiatives and building relationships that are police
department and other key Community stakeholders via my job
with the city of Chicago.
These efforts are all in service of enhancing the safety
and well-being of all Chicagoans.
As 1 of the inaugural youth Commissioners for the mayor's
office. I was heavily involved in initiatives like my chai
my future aimed at enriching the lives of Chicago's youth
through engagement and opportunity.
My tenure in 3 different aldermanic offices and 4 other
elected official offices in all levels of government have
endowed me with a robust understanding of our City's
diverse needs and the complexities of our Public Safety
Systems.
Today I stand before you committed to embodying the values
of the commission ensuring that our youth are not just
heard but engaged in safety strategies that will shape
their lives. I hope to offer steady leadership and bring my
accumulated expertise and knowledge from my time in
government and my continuous work and Community. I also
look forward to learning from many of the other
Commissioners and everybody else in the council.
I humbly request your favorable consideration for my
appointment confident that in the knowledge together. We
can forge a path forwards towards a safer more inclusive
city. Thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you
Mr. Naval and representing the best side Romeo Terry. You
know it.
Good afternoon. Chairman Talia faroh Vice chairman Robinson
and esteemed members of the committee of police and fire as
well as my fellow Chicagoans.
Imagine a Chicago not just any Chicago but a Chicago where
the vibrant energy of our neighborhoods is matched by a
deep sense of safety for every single resident. That's the
vision that drives my passion for public safety as a
lifelong chicagoan and very proud westsider. I've walked
these streets. I felt the pulse of our community. I've seen
challenges. Yes, but most importantly I've seen the immense
potential of our city.
My name is Ral Terry and I stand before you today seeking a
permanent appointment to bridge the gap the Gap towards a
safer more just Chicago for all.
For the past 20 months. I haven't just talked about Public
Safety. I rolled up my sleeves and gotten to work as
interim commissioner on the ccpsa. I've worn many hats vice
president.
Policy co-lead for the Chicago Police Department Community
engagement co-lead and even co-lead of our most recent
superintendent search. This experience has given me a
ground level understanding of the public safety issues we
face and the critical importance of collaboration, but my
commitment goes beyond titles for over 15 years as first
vice president of the Chicago Westside Branch nacp. I've
championed equity in our communities Fair policy their
policies and empowering marginalized groups. These have
always been my focus because I believe in Building Bridges
and fostering trust that's the kind of leader. I'll be as 1
of the permanent commissioners of the ccpsa a leader who
uses lived experience proven leadership skills and a deep
understanding of Public Safety to Forest strong
Partnerships between communities policy makers and law
enforcement together. We can create Public Safety.
strategies that are effective but also build trust and
accountability strategies that reflect the needs of every
resident not just some
thank you for your time. I wholeheartedly endorse my
candidacy of this appointment and welcome the opportunity
to answer any of your questions. I asked for the favorable
consideration of this committee regarding my permanent
appointment to the ccpsa. Thank you, Miss. Terry.
And our last speaker will be a Miss Sandra wore them.
Thank you. Is it on? Okay? Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon.
Okay. Good afternoon. Chairman Talya Ferro Vice chairman
Robinson and members of the committee. Thank you for the
opportunity to appear before you today. I am Sandra
Wortham. I it is an honor to be considered for appointment
as a commissioner with the community commission for Public
Safety and accountability to this commission. I would bring
a valuable skill set and perspective formed by my
professional and personal experiences. I am a chicagoan a
southsider and the proud daughter of a retired Chicago
public school teacher and a Chicago retired Chicago Police
Sergeant. I am an attorney by profession and an active
Community member as 1 of the commission's principal
responsibilities is to increase Public Safety in Chicago. I
believe my experience is uniquely qualified me to
contribute to said work.
As an attorney I would bring to this commission a
combination of both traditional legal practice civilian law
enforcement experience and administrative expertise. I
presently own and operate a solo legal practice and serve
as an administrative law judge and hearing officer prior to
operating my firm. I served as a civilian deputy director
with the Chicago Police Department gaining significant
experience with Department operations and Community
interactions. My diverse legal experiences have provided me
with the ability to analyze law and policy in efforts to
ensure effective practical implementation. I also have the
skills necessary to identify and effectuate opportunities
for collaborative work between internal and external Public
Safety stakeholders.
In addition to my professional experience. I have long
volunteered in reference to maintain safety and desirable
quality of life conditions for my community. I currently
serve as the president of the Nat King Cole Park advisory
Council in chattam and previously served as an elected
local school council Community representative for Harlan
High School.
Further in my current role as president of the Executive
Board of the Chicago police memorial Foundation. I am proud
to work with an organization that serves the families of
Chicago police department members killed or
catastrophically injured in the line of duty.
To that end. I know firsthand the destruction caused by the
violence perpetrated on our communities my brother Chicago
police officer Thomas Eugene wore them IV was murdered in
Chicago in front of our home on May 20th, 2010 my family
and I continue to experience the horrible horrible
ramifications of my brother's murder living with this
trauma has only magnified my commitment to ensuring that
Chicago's Public Safety infrastructure.
All entities of Chicago's Public Safety infrastructure work
to their most useful capacity and with a focus on the
safety of communities. I look forward to continuing to be
of service to Chicago with this commission. I would
appreciate your favorable consideration, and I will be
happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you.
Thank you, Miss. Um, thank you Miss Wortham.
I'll procedurally We Will We Will um have questions and
comments, um as a whole. Um, so each you'll be able to ask
questions or comments of each of the um, uh,
The appointees but we will take individual votes on each
your pointy as well. So if there's any questions, uh
alderwoman tobars
thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, my first question is for Mr.
Aaron Gotti.
Um, do you believe that the Chicago Police Department has a
responsibility to inform the um, Illinois vehicle code. The
reason why I asked this question is because in my ward
Pulaski corridors in my ward, and there's been
over a hundred and 1,500 accidents on that police on that
Pulaski Corridor with 340 fatalities and in the 12th in the
in the past 12 months there have been 7 fatalities people
are driving directly. There's Street takeovers, there's
drag racing and so I'm I'm curious to get your perspective.
Um, because when
people see the police they slow down.
And Pulaski Corridor has been killing residents in my ward.
So do you believe that Chicago Police Department has a
responsibility to enforce the, Illinois.
vehicle code
so thank you for that question. Um, I think so just as a
starting point. I think it's it's clearly a public safety
issue based on the numbers you provided and I do think that
the police department is responsible for enforcing the law.
So, um, so if the law says that they need to so so, yeah,
so if the law exists they need to enforce it.
And it's a follow-up question today. Are you familiar with
the US Supreme Court case Pennsylvania versus men's and can
you explain a significance to the Fourth Amendment?
Okay, just okay. Well let me sorry. I'm not familiar with
that specific case. So basically it says that if you break
a traffic law.
And the police pull you over.
Cops have the right to order you to step out of the
vehicle.
Are you familiar with the Illinois state law known as the
police and community relations Improvement Act?
Uh, could you provide me with some sure so it's a state law
that says how police involved shootings should be
investigated.
The whole state has to follow has to follow this law.
So pretty much all of the Departments. They use ISP the
Illinois State Police to do their investigations, which are
actual certified police officers.
We have Copa.
Which is a violation of that law.
It's a violation of this law.
So my question to to you and to members of the panel.
you know this law it states that each officer involved
death investigation shall be conducted by at least 2
investigators 1 of them, which is a lead investigator,
which will shall be a person certified by the Illinois Law
Enforcement Training Standards Board.
Or similar training by the Illinois Law Enforcement
Training Standards Board or the Illinois State Police or
similar training. Um provided by the Illinois Law
Enforcement Training certified school. So my question here
is are you aware?
That Copa investigators are not certified under the
entities required by the state law in order to be eligible
to conduct investigations related to police involved
shooting.
Chairman, excuse me, excuse me sheet. Can I keep the uh,
please do not interrupt the speakers nor the uh, the
committee members.
Go ahead. So I answered my question. I can repeat the
question. But was that a question for Mr. Question for got
lie, or any other members of the panel they like to
so, um, can you hear me?
Um, my answer to that is yes. I am familiar with it. It was
also every year the commission sets goals for the police
board the president of the police Board of chief
administrative Coppa and the superintendent of police. Um,
this was an issue that uh, we started to work on and our
goal setting process. It's listed publicly in our goals.
Um, and to answer your question, uh about the second part
was Dua supported or do I
if you're aware, were you aware if you aware? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. We are we are I'm very aware of it. Um, and I believe
that dating back to the life of administration and now with
the Johnson Administration, they've been in negotiations to
try to figure out um, how to remedy this and if you're
asking do I support it or not? I I fully support um, Coppa
and our our Police Department in every city agency
comporting with state law.
You do agree that it is problematic that you know given
that ccpsa is charged with oversight of Copa that it's it's
problematic that copas mission, which is likely operating
against the state law.
establishes investigative requirements regarding officer
involved shootings
I don't really I don't well. Well, I know you mentioned
that you're you're working with the administration, but
will you and members of The ccpsa Advocate to bring the
city of Chicago into compliance with state law and require
investigators into police involved shootings to be
certified investigators?
From an outside agency not affiliated with the city of
Chicago.
Well, I don't I'm not that that last part I'm not certain
about the law. I do know I am familiar with Pria and I'm I
am familiar with um, the negotiations that have been back
and forth for me personally and and what we've tried to do
as an interim commission and I hope we continue to send to
the permanent commission is uh, trust is is the most
important thing trust in the system trusts that residents
give to this commission that the city council gives to this
commission is of the utmost importance. Um, and I think
that it's important that we all comport with state law and
figuring out how to do that is of the utmost importance.
Okay? Well just for the record the state law also says that
investigators into police involved shooting should not be
part of the same department or entity. So Copa are not only
not investigators, but they're also part of the city of
Chicago along with CPD. So it's another reason why Copa is
not eligible to do investigations under state law. So my
final question
my final question here is I want to focus on
on 2 shootings
We had 2 officers shot.
in a month
1
and 1 did not
in the case of the officer who survived?
Police returned fire on the shooter and he was killed.
In the other case the murderer fled.
1 is a Copa job the other a CPD job.
Copa got to work by going on a media tour in podcasts. Also
sending letters calling for discipline even before any
interviews were conducted.
In the second instance you had a team of actual
investigators.
That work across agencies collecting evidence conducting
interviews and Gathering intelligence that would ultimately
result in a successful apprehension of this cop killer.
Coppa was trying to get its 15 minutes of fame.
professional investigators
were working to collect facts and bring a cop killer to
Justice.
the ccpsa
you guys here in the panel is tasked with oversight of
coppa and CPD.
There needs to be accountability across the board if we are
going to have actual fairness and not a kangaroo court.
At what point do we admit that coupa is a deeply flawed
agency staffed led by individuals who would rather fan the
Flames than find facts.
How will you fix it?
That's my question.
Amber members of the ccpsa, how will you fix it?
They if I if I met um
alderwoman
We probably in that instance need to bring and and we could
do so by resolution. Um
bring copers, uh Chief administrator
here to raise
um, I just want to uh, I just have 1
the other members. Um, Sandra wore them. I just want to
thank you for all of the work that you do with the Chicago
police memorial foundation and supporting the gold star
families. Um, you carry your brother's Legacy probably.
Thank you.
Thank you alderwoman.
alderwoman nugget
thank you chairman. Um and thank you to everybody for um,
putting your hat in the ring to be a part of this. It's
it's a lot of work to be involved in this type of stuff.
And I know it's complicated. I actually had the privilege
of serving with chair mental health Pharaoh. Um after this
initial legislation was passed we were part of a group of
aldermen that met with candidates and reviewed resumes to
present the initial 14 to Mere light foot and um happy to
see Anthony up here and Ral here. Um, I think you guys have
done some really good work, um over the past year, and I
know that you've engaged the community quite a bit and
worked with our office. So thank you for that. I I
appreciate that. Um, I just I had a question for Angel. Um,
are you currently working with for Alderman? Um Moana hopin
Works office?
Yes, I do. Okay. Um, yes, we're I just want to talk about
this a little bit because
In that role. Do you work on public safety issues? I know
you work in constituent services, but
You do work with the aldermen on Public Safety, right?
That's correct. And
part of the responsibility on this commission is to have
independence with respect to Public Safety.
Can you talk to me a little bit about that? How could you
maintain Independence if you are you are moral compass or
your values? Um, perhaps were in conflict with your
alderman.
Thank you for that question Auto woman. I appreciate it. I
actually had a really long conversation with the order
woman prior to applying and the team and told them that
whatever work I do for the commission is going to be My
Views and My Views only so I've set that very important
standard to the Ottawa woman and the rest of the team. Um,
personally speaking right now. I'm looking through the
ethical issues that might come with me working on Public
Safety matters with an older woman. So I'm happy to follow
up with you on those findings. But um, I I wholeheartedly
look forward to being independent. I work really well with
members of our Police Department as a matter of fact, uh,
the district Commander wrote me the letter of
recommendation because we work so well together. So, um, I
completely
Understand your concern and honestly, I was expecting it
coming from the council and as somebody who has staffed,
um, 3 different older persons. I understand the uh, ethical
implications that can come with that but I wholeheartedly
um made that precedent with the older woman and the rest of
the team.
Thank you. And I I appreciate that response. I
I do have concerns though. Um.
because as a staffer you have to carry out the will of
of the aldermen that you work for and
I think it would be quite confusing if you have to carry
out policy a for your boss.
And let's just say you disagree with it. And then when
you're working with the commission, you're promoting policy
B.
I do have concerns, um with that I also um, it's my
understanding that
your boss has to vote for you.
Um to be on this commission and you will be potentially
presenting.
Um things that we may have to vote on and that is your
boss. So I
I I've known you through City Hall and I I think you're a
very lovely person. I just I do have some concerns. Um
With the ability to be independent in this role with your
current employment.
Thank you. Thank you. You're all the woman and missed
another hoe. I I know that raises a lot of issues and you
know.
You you stated in in.
Uh just in that you expected, um the council to have some
concerns about that. Um, but did you did you mention that
in your opening statement that you were?
That you were um, a member of 1 of our colleagues, uh, a
staffer not in my in my opening statement. I did say I
worked for 3 different authors, but not currently that I
work for an elder. I I I think in full disclosure
uh, you should have
because you expected us to ask you questions about that
that Independence that you say you're going to have but yet
you and I I I waited to hear you talk about it.
But yet you didn't disclose um that you are a staffer at 1
of our colleagues. And so that already brings. Um,
Some issues with me. Um, I I would have certainly uh been
very supportive of you because you are allowed by Statute
to serve in that capacity and it's something that we should
have probably looked at in more detail. Um, but I did
expect you and your opening statement to say hey,
Um, I do work for 1 of your colleagues and and I understand
in fact you said just then that you expected that to be
raised. Um, so I'm concerned that the fact that you did not
um, raise that in your opening statements to which you had
3 minutes to do so
Um, so that brings some concern with me, uh, are there any
questions and comments?
No further questions and comments, okay.
Did I miss? Oh, I'm sorry all the women lie. Thank you. Um,
thank you chairman. Um, I also want to extend my uh,
my thanks to each and every 1 of you for your interest and
uh serving in this capacity. Um Anthony, I've really
enjoyed working with you in this last year, um, and you
know of no and I appreciate that that you brought it up.
Um, you know, when uh,
When superintendent snowing, uh first came on board. Um, I
was 1 of the first conversations you had about let's bring
let's bring the superintendent to Chinatown. Um, let's do
that here because we want to make sure that um, you know,
we're we're reaching out to every corner of this city. Um,
and I you know as the alderman in the 11th word and in
Chinatown for this first Asian majority Ward, um, I've been
really pleased um with the the level of work and the
quality and your commitment to um, making sure that we're
we're listening to everybody um, and my community
absolutely felt heard in that instance. Um, and uh, you
know, look forward to um continue to work with you in the
future. I think you've done
An incredible job, um to those of you who have already been
serving. Thank you. Um,
I get that this is a really thankless job.
Um, and I know that you spent a lot of time and effort and
and resources, um, as do the district counselors as well.
Um, so, you know, I I appreciate all that you're doing I
think that there's a lot that needs to be tackled, you
know, um, I touch base briefly with my District Council
representative to the nominating committee. Um, and uh, she
felt good about everybody that is uh about the Slate that
was presented. Um 1 of the things that she said just sort
of ring, um just sticks out to me, um, is that she looked
for someone who she thought could be fair?
Um, and I think that that is something I wholeheartedly
agree with because you're going to be presented with a lot
of different sides and you know, you're you're coming to it
with a lot of your loan lived experiences your work
experiences. Um, and and the vision that you might have um
for the future of Public Safety in the city and I think
that requires that we take a balanced approach. Um, so it
in that that's the the charge that I would leave you with
is that um,
you sort of check your own opinions at the door because your
job um is to um,
Oversee, um, Coppa and the Chicago Police Department. Um,
and that is a that is a Monumental task. Um, and I think
that what what we don't need necessarily is more, um, you
know, extreme views on things. Uh, I think this the city's
relying on you with this responsibility to do all that. Um,
and I will say angel. I know I know you through your work
with us Alderman warts office. Um, and I too was looking
for you to disclose that I think that's important. Um, I
think that you know, that that might be something uh,
you're you're younger member. Um,
I I think that that is though something that um full
disclosure and transparency is Monumental and all of the
work that we do and all the work that you're going to be
doing to um that and that does um, raise some some
questions and concerns as I I think you've heard here as
well. Um, but with that, um, I don't actually have
questions. I just wanted to provide some comment and uh
appreciation. Um,
For each of your uh willingness to to commit to an
appointment of this magnitude. Thank you. Thank you Autumn
woman Lee alderwoman Taylor.
older woman tailor
Thank you chairman.
Um, yeah, I'm sorry there I go.
Um, my question is how were you all gonna be different? Um
1 of my co-workers talk about
we have Copa we have fop. We have all these different
bodies, but every month we're asked to pay million dollars
and lawsuits. What would what were you all do different?
What were you all bring different at the table? And I want
to say to Anthony and Ciara y'all must want to go to heaven
because y'all continue to take on a system. That's so
broken that I don't know how to we begin to move forward
and so my question is to all the panelists. What were you
all do different on this Commission?
Hello, can you hear me? All right. Thank you alderwoman for
the question, uh Sandra wore them. So I actually think it's
a good question. I'll say for me having watched ccpsa
meetings and quite frankly city council this committee
pretty much any meeting related to Public Safety in this
city for um, a long time. Um, the 1 thing that I think that
I can bring
That's different is a prospective as you all know quite
frankly the same people come to every meeting the same
people speak at every meeting. If this is supposed to be a
representative body a body that represents the entirety of
the city of Chicago that can't be we have got to figure out
how to reach out to everyone. You don't have to like
everyone's opinion, but everyone's opinion should certainly
be included because we're never going to have a public
safety infrastructure that actually works if only certain
voices are heard so I certainly think I bring a unique
perspective, um to your point about the lawsuits. I
actually think that's a to the same point people always
like to throw out. Okay, we have all these investigatory or
oversight bodies and we still pay so much money, but there
seems to be a real lack of understanding sometimes um and a
correlation between the money and liability an assumption
that the amount of money is a direct reflection of the
department or the city's liability and as
As an attorney. I know that that's not the case. I I I sit
through with you all virtually these hearings and any
attorney who's practiced whose litigated knows that often.
There is a litigation cost analysis that goes into a
decision to settle. I think that's something we have an
obligation to explain to Chicagoans because it's very easy
to say we've paid XYZ millions of dollars owe the police
must be so horrible. It's a lot more difficult to say,
excuse me that we paid this money and
Here's what this case here where the facts of this case and
here's why the city council made the decision to pay this
money. That's a lot more complicated. But I think it does a
better service to our residents. Um, because then we're all
engaged in the process and we all actually know what's
going on. So in terms of what I can bring and what I hope
to bring it's a diverse voice and a voice that leads us
forward to actual Public Safety in this city.
Thank you for your question Alderman Taylor. Alright, Terry
again. Um, I would say some of what I would bring
differently and what I would also continue is this emphasis
on having the impacted voices at the table. I was very
intentional during my tenure as an interim commissioner and
going directly into communities to ensure they were really
educated on the actual role of this commission what our
authorities were what all of the various entities we
oversee were responsible for because I do agree that there
is a significant Gap in understanding and education on all
levels. We point fingers at different entities when they
are not the ones who are responsible for some of the things
that ill ill us. And so I think it's very important to
continue that work so that people within the 15th District
the 11th District the Third District all of these districts
where they may not be as engaged.
With uh, what's happening in their neighborhood or even the
entities that have oversight?
coming and teaching them about what their voice can lend to
what powers they have who's responsible for what and I
think that's a different perspective of doing this work
because it isn't about what I want to see but how can I
best serve those who I represent in this position by making
sure that their voices their opinions are leading the
things that I choose to do the ways in which I choose to
act the positions that I take when doing this work.
Um aside from the what the the appointees were saying a
building on top of that. I do believe that there's also a
huge opportunity to activate our district counselors a lot
more their tasks with educating um, and organizing, uh
neighbors to learn about these processes and to really be
intentional about how we're speaking to them based on
different neighborhood issues. I also believe that we have
an opportunity to engage our youth a lot more. There's a
lot of great programs through the department through the
police department, um through through Coppa and through
through other uh agencies that we could really help
integrate with the commission to really have our young
people start, um, giving more feedback to us. So I do agree
with a lot of the other appointees. It's the same crowds
and um, you know, we really do need to be more intentional
of how we're doing that Outreach. So going to them instead
of trying to host. Uh, I always tell this to the police
Department because they tell me we have all these youth
programs and I say yes, you're hosting the programs but
young people have no idea about these programs you have to
go to them and so aiding any other department or District
counselors and helping them to mobilize better and have
better Communications with their commanders I think is
going to go a long way on educating the public, um on on
issues about public safety and inherently will be able to
better provide feedback to those departments. So I believe
that's something different that I could bring in my
perspective on working with youth as well.
Good afternoon. Alderwoman. Thank you for your question
Kelly Presley. Um
I can't speak to what I will do differently because I'm not
sure um where you see the problem, but what I can commit to
is doing the work. Um, I've got 15 years of experience
working in broken systems, uh, the Illinois Department of
Corrections, uh, Illinois Department of Children and Family
Services. Uh, I'm used to listening to both sides. I'm used
to listening to the underrepresented, uh, the overlooked.
Um, I I take their view seriously. I think their views are
important and so I will bring that effort to this
Commission.
um, and I'm I'm willing to to dig my feet in and and make
those uh connections to my community to all the communities
in Chicago to ensure that everyone's voice is heard. Um,
but I also know that change and large systems does not
happen overnight. Um, and so I am committed to doing the
work long-term to see positive impact between the
interactions with CPD, uh, and our youth um, and our
communities so that is my commitment, uh, as an employee
for this Commission.
Thank you for that. Wonderful question. Um, you started
your question. I like the way that you uh,
acknowledged the work of our um interim committee for ccpsa
and saying that they want to go to heaven. So I want to
assume that you are in agreement that the work that they
have done is different is substantial and should continue.
Um, I also am committed to going to heaven and so I want to
say that
I'm I'm serious. And so I want to say that in terms of
difference. I'm committed to making sure that we fulfill
our responsibility to Bringing to pass our 2024
superintendent goals our 2024 Copa goals our 2024, um goals
for the Chicago Police board as well as making sure that we
make true on our promise to get the city in compliance with
the consent decree. I know that that's a very big
statement. Um, but I hope to see it in my lifetime. Um, I'm
also committed to making sure that we bring Community into
the
Room absolutely angel. I love that. You said we need to
engage our district counselors. I know that superintendent
snailing is trying to engage the district commanders and I
hope to see um them coordinate more together. I hope to be
a part as a commissioner of making sure that they're
strengthening their connection to community and their
commitment to community so that we can have representative
policies as um CC as ccpsa Council and commission. I
believe that you know, it's only 7 of us, but there are a
lot more districts that need to be heard. Um, I'm committed
to making sure that they are heard and I'm making sure that
their voices and their experiences are informed in the
policy recommendations that we put forth, um on every level
and so that's how I believe um, we can be different and how
will I would like to be different as well?
So thank you so much alderwoman for that question. I too
want to acknowledge the interim commission and certainly
hope that we keep um to keep on going along with a lot of
how they've they've done an incredible job getting the ball
rolling and and I'm looking forward.
To um to continuing to do that. So what I believe that uh, I
bring that is different is or at least a unique perspective
is
some of the training I have allows me to evaluate and
synthesize evidence that I think will be useful for us in
helping us make decisions, uh through my academic
expertise, but I'm not someone who is just like just
conducted lots of studies and not done anything. I'm also
Community engaged. Um, so I've spent a lot of time working
with the community on these issues and I really value
Community voice and that's a really critical part of the
evidence. We're going to need to evaluate I would also say,
uh, that's something that hopefully you'll get to learn
about me is I
To me. I'm open-minded. So my
For any issue we're going to tackle. My goal is not to try
to be right. Uh, it's to try to solve a problem. Right? So
I I will work really hard to solve problems. Uh, and that
will require working with lots of groups that have
different perspectives. Um, and then last I I'm just a
grinder I work extremely hard. Uh, I'm I view this, uh
appointment as a huge responsibility and 1 that I take very
seriously and and will commit my altar
Um, I think I'll I'll I'll just say I think it was
ultimately Who Um probably said 1 of the most important
things here and that was to check your ego at the door. Um,
and that's something I've had to learn, uh over and over
again sometimes daily, sometimes weekly, um, and and this
position it's a Citywide position. Um,
you're not beholden to political ideology. You're not
beholden to 1 specific Community, but being willing to
listen to All communities, um, and and let everybody have a
voice. Um, it's something that I think that we've been able
to do differently. It's something that I plan on continuing
to do. Um, and also not ducking issues. I think uh Public
Safety is probably the most important issue in this city
has been at least since I've been living here, which is all
my life. Um,
And a lot of times it's not you know, it's not pretty to go
to to take on issues head on um, and and you take you catch
a lot of flack for your stances on a certain issues. But
um, I firmly believe that that the only way uh to to to get
over it is to is to go right through it. Um, and and so not
running from issues, um, not ducking things with being
willing to take on the hard challenges. Um, and listen to
people who you disagree with, um that has been the most
helpful thing to me as a person. I've grown tremendously
being in this position. Um, and I look forward to
continuing to listen to those folks who I don't agree with
Well the woman tailor.
So, um, I'm going to go on a a a totally different
direction.
With something that all the woman. Um Tobias said
it is a slap in the face when we have a major shooting in
our city and the Top Cop is not there.
That is a problem because we refuse to work together and so
we have a unique opportunity and I want you all to make
sure that you you take this you have a unique opportunity
to fix Decades of what has went wrong and so us having this
commission be staffed with folks who are actually from the
community who get it who can bring a different voice and
having those Community councils should get us and us to go
in the right direction. And so what I'm hoping what what
will happen is and I think you all said it together is that
you're committed to doing the work because it's not going
to be easy you going to be scrutinized. There's always
going to be some blame that comes to you all but what I
hope happen is in these conversations and your
responsibility. You also also help us create legislation
that that also has a some of the protections you all will
see it from a lens that I might not never get to see it too
and on this side, I don't have to
I I don't but what I would hope that you all would take from
from this is a responsibility for us to say hey, this makes
sense doesn't make sense instead of 10 to 9.
It's easy to get in these positions and look at it through
your your rose-colored glasses, but this is not that I
can't tell Anthony how to be a black man in the city of
Chicago. I don't know what that feels like and I honestly
don't want to but I know how hard it is to be a black woman
and so keeping those conversations and thoughts in mind.
Um, I want y'all to take that and well done it and when
this when this no longer is your interest when this you
feel like you no longer could commit to this. I hope that
we all do you do the right thing and walk away from it
because it ain't easy and see people won't say that to you.
I will because at the end of the day, this is hard work and
this is Decades of us not getting the right. And so I
appreciate all the appointments not really concerned about
you working for Miss Lenny because she's 1 of the most
honest folks that we got to send a council when she's new.
Um, I don't know if this is a paid position if it ain't I
understand why you would continue to work for the ultimate
office, but it's like with anything you can't think because
you buy all the woman tailor a piece of chicken that that's
going to change my mind for what I do. It's called morals
and principles and I feel like you have them and while you
didn't outrightly say who you work for not a concern for
me. You'll still get my
Yes, thank you all for your commitment to wanting to do this
and you let us know as city council how we can be a help.
Thank you chairman.
Thank you alderwoman.
Alderman Curtis followed by alderman tala
Napolitano
it's a tongue twister.
Alderman Curtis
Thank you, uh chairman. Uh first I would like to say, uh, I
am a a a huge advocate uh of accountability.
um, I want to thank all of you for
even wanted to take on this task, um the perception of this
position.
Basically is a hated. Uh
Position also, uh, I I do want to uh, thank uh, Auden and
Taylor for bringing up. This is not going to be easy. Uh,
but you also have to be able to sleep at night with the uh
decisions that you make
uh, spending 13 years in law enforcement with 2 departments
mostly uh and narcotics and I spent countless hours in
training, uh, in internal investigations including the
Institute of police technology and management, uh by way of
the Illinois Law Enforcement standard board, and I want to
thank um, my colleague
Alternate to bars for bringing that up, uh, because that is
important to know exactly what you're doing and how you're
doing it.
uh
You know, all of you have very impressive resumes. I don't
know. Um
each 1 of you personally, I do know Anthony, uh driver and
I want to say to you Anthony that uh for all the time in
the years that I have known you.
Uh, no matter what you've been lobbying for you always been
uh Fair.
You always been um.
uh
You've always want you always listen to the other person's
side. I do want to say that. Uh, no matter uh, if you were
on the same side of that person or not, you did listen and
uh, I think that you are great and you great suited for
this position because uh, you do have a different way of
thinking things and you are open-minded and I hope everyone
will be the same.
uh also
from you all and thank you for your service.
Thank you. Um Alderman Mosley, are there any questions any
further questions and comments?
Alderman Cardona
chairman, this is a question. Um our vote is it as a as a
group or individually know we will we will vote
individually. Okay. Thank you. Thank you and let me just uh
as we conclude. Um, I want to ask each of you, um, not to
answer and and send this format, but think about the
subject matter of the policy.
Um that you want to Champion, um upon your commission. Okay,
not the subject Matt. I'm sorry, not not an elaboration of
you know, what's wrong with the policy was right with it,
but just the subject matter of a policy that's near and
that's near and dear to you on our Chicago Police
Department that you'd like to Champion on behalf of the uh,
the residents of the city starting with um,
Mr. Driver
I'm sorry.
Yes, just just the subject matter.
Like if if if it's if it's police reform or just the
subject matter.
response times. Yes, okay.
Um, I will say clearance rates, okay.
proactive support for um
domestic violence survivors
Good afternoon. Thank you for your question for me. It
would be implicit bias training.
Thank you chairman for me. It would be um training and what
that looks like under the consent decree for our newer
officers.
It would be active Community impacted community members
being engaged in training opportunities dealing with direct
impacts to the public.
So mine would be.
any combination of things that look back at both the
vehicle Pursuit foot pursuit and any other policies that
have been recently put in place that impact officer's
ability to carry out enforcement of law. So ensuring that
said policies both make sense for the safety of the
community and the actual effectiveness of law enforcement.
Thank you. Uh and let me say as before we take a vote. Um,
I want to thank each of you uh for wanting to step up to
the plate and uh serve the city in this capacity.
This this Commission.
Has took years in the making and I want to go all the way
back to when I became Alderman where on my former
colleague, um, all the women Leslie Harrison, um, saw how
important it was to have this commission. Um, and she
championed from It Forward from day 1 and and a lot of my
colleagues supported and got behind, uh her efforts then we
saw grassroot organizations, um get behind those efforts as
well. And so a lot of you were here during include the
executive director, uh doing this very difficult time after
the murder of laquan McDonald, um, and trying to bring um
out the best police department that we could possibly have
and and that's why this commission is so important
and and the reason um
That I I expressed my concerns. Um
Mr. Know
because last year even last year, uh, there was an article
in the Sun Times and I want to bring to my colleagues
attention if if they are not aware of this article.
Uh, but
it it was found that our our public defender was feeding
and and you can read this before yourselves and in the
sometimes, uh was feeding uh in disclosing information.
Of juveniles to 1 of our commissioners, uh organization
that he ran.
Uh, and and that that organization's uh lead director or the
head of that organization, um was a member of our community
Commission.
Um, so certainly there is an allegation of written
propriety that was investigated by the Inspector General.
Um, the inspector General's office. And the reason why we
have to hold this commission to the highest standard
possible, um, because there can be um, problems associated
like that.
And so, uh, this is a public defender, um an elected
position, um with as well as 1 of our our community
commissions or Community commissioner. So, um, that's why I
I I reserve so much, uh, well because I placed such a high
standard on this commission. Um why I have my reservations
about 1 of the candidates, um, Alderman Ervin,
thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um again, this has been a long
time coming, uh in the process. Uh, I I know that uh, all
of you all have served in various capacities across the
city and I think what we see here today is a reflection of
of all of that work come together. Uh, some of you I I I do
know I've known prior to this, uh engagement, uh, but I am
happy to see that uh, our our youth member that uh engaged
in part of this process. I think it's very important that
we have young people at the table, uh, as many of the
impacts that occurred do happen to do happen to some of our
younger members of the community and to have that
perspective. Uh, ironically I had an
opportunity as a when I was in college to serve on the Board
of Trustees of my University and I was able to offer that
prospective and I hope that you offer the same perspective,
Uh, when these policy discussions are going on and what the
and what the impact of that is, uh for uh for our youth and
our young people but again, uh, thank you all for your
service. Uh, Sandra I um, uh,
Didn't know you coming up under your brother and your um,
our father's work together in the Chicago Police
Department. And uh, I know that he's proud of the work that
you've done and then continue to do and the work that you
do with represent the gold star families, uh, you know, no
1 of us wants to be in that uh position, um, you know,
being a um, a sibling or or a a child of a Chicago police
officer at times can be very difficult. Uh, and you know,
your brother made the ultimate sacrifice for for our
community and that we would forever be indebted to you.
However, you continue to serve uh in through all of that.
So we appreciate your continued service and and desire to
serve on behalf of the citizens of this great City Romeo
goes without saying from uh, westside of Chicago and the
work that you've done with the Westside. NAACP is
definitely to be commended and Anthony I've known for years
on the organizing side and and again a great selections and
great people that uh that I hope that will um, uh do do our
city great. Uh,
Great service in in that respect. So um, if not, I I you
want a motion.
Yeah, can I get a motion to approve item number 2 and I'm
going to vote individually on these item number 2 the
appointment of Anthony drivers commissioner. So moved by
Alderman, uh
Oh, I'm sorry Alderman Mosley all those in favor.
those opposed
the opinion of the chair the eyes have it. Um,
congratulations, uh, Anthony driver be reported out at our
next committee meeting.
Alderman Mosley makes the same motion with the the
appointment Aaron Godly as commissioner. Um all those in
favor.
I all those opposed say nay.
and the opinion of the chair my eye hasn't
um, we were reporting. Congratulations Mr. Golly.
Alderman Mosley makes the same motion with the appointment.
I'll be here minor.
all those in favor signify by saying I
all those opposed nay
and opinion of the chair before we begin clapping eyes have
it.
congratulations all um
I'll be your minor Miss minor.
Alderman Mosley makes the same motion with the appointment
of Kelly Presley as commissioner all those in favor signify
by saying I
I all those opposed nay.
And opinion of the chair the eyes have it. Congratulations
on the point Miss Presley.
As chairman of the committee. I will hold item number 6 in
committee.
um almond Mosley
moves the appointment of REM Terry by the um
as commissioner of the community Commission
Public Safety and accountability all those in favor say I
all those opposed say nay
And the opinion the chair of the eyes have it.
Congratulations Miss Romel Terry.
Alderman Mosley moves the appointment of Sandra Wortham as
commissioner of ccpsa all those in favor say I
All those opposed say yay nay.
And the opinion and chair the eyes have it. Congratulations
Miss Wortham.
Item number 23457 and 8 will be reported out at our next
city council meeting. I believe that data is Mae 22nd.
Congratulations to each of you and item number 6 is being
held in committee.
Alderman Ervin moves to adjourn all those in favor say I
all those opposed say nay
An opinion chairs the eyes have it the meeting is
adjourned. Thank you for