Good morning, everybody. The committee on finance is called
to order.
we'll take
We'll take a roll call to establish Quorum this morning.
Vice chair Conway
alderman laspada
Alderman Hopkins
Alderman Hall
Alderman Harris
alderman
Alderman Mitchell
Alderman Beal
alderman ramire
Alderman Ramirez
Alderman Quinn
Alderman Lopez
Alderman Moore
Alderman Curtis
Alderman OSHA
Alderman t uh Mosley
Alderman Rodriguez
Alderman Scott
Alderman Co Lopez
Alderman Bernett
Alderman Ervin
Alderman Talya Ferro
Alderman Cardona
alderman waguespack
Alderman Ramirez Rosa
Alderman vagus
Alderman mitts
Alderman spaz
Alderman Vasquez
Alderman Reilly
Alderman Knudsen
Alderman Martin
Alderman Silverstein
Alderman Harris, I see you.
chair dowel is
Chair dowel is here.
We have a quorum Alderman Mitch.
We have a quorum Alderman Mitchell is here.
Alderman Hopkins is here.
Alderman Cardone is here.
We have a quorum we have.
We have a quorum. We have 23 members present. Um Alderman
Lee Alderman Taylor and Alder.
Lee Alderman Taylor and Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez
requested remote participation.
requested remote participation under the provisions of
rule.
rule, 40 59. Can I get a motion to allow these Alder?
rule, 40 59. Can I get a motion to allow these Alderman to
attend the meeting by remote?
So moved by alderman laspada.
I have you Alderman Moore.
I have you Alderman Moore all those in favor signify by
saying I
opposed in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it.
the motion carries. I want to confirm that.
the motion carries. I want to confirm that Alderman Lee
Taylor and Rodriguez.
Taylor and Rodriguez are present and have joined today's
meeting. Good morning.
Well, they're not.
Well, they're not here, but we will count them when they get
here I want.
here. I want to recognize all them and Mana hoppenworth.
is not a non-member who is here.
is not a non-member who is here any other non-members
present?
Okay.
okay at this time we'll begin the public comment period uh,
which will be limited to 30 minutes out of respect for
everyone's Time Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes.
um, we do have a remote speaker this morning and that is
Brad tights and we'll call on him Mr. Tight.
please un
Please unmute yourself.
Mr. Tights
Yes, I am here. Okay.
Your 3 minutes is beginning please start.
Good morning chair.
Good morning, chair D members of the committee. My name is
Brad te the VP.
Brad te the VP government relations and strategy with the
Chicago land Chamber of Commerce.
We speak to you that uh today in support for substitute
Orden.
ordinance 20247838. The mayor's Bond authorization for 1.25
billion dollar.
billion dollars in bonds to support housing and economic
development.
development projects while there may be potential concerns
down the road. We commend Mayor Johnson commissioner
Boatright commissioner.
Boatright commissioner Catherine a and the administration
for putting forth a thoughtful proposal that will
complement and add to exist.
complement and add to existing efforts to Spur inclusive
and Equitable economic.
and Equitable economic growth and job creation across
Chicago without increasing.
Chicago without increasing taxes The Proposal before the
committee today.
committee today relies on as a Civic Federation correctly
calls it.
calls it read re resetting Chicago's over usage of tips.
while recognizing the value that tips can continue to
As an economic development tool when?
targeted ways in recent years. Tibbs have failed to
generate the
the type of catalytic development and in an areas across
the city that need it most while also providing
administrations and Council.
administrations and councils a fallback Revenue source to
close budget gaps.
close budget gaps relying on the expiring Tiff Revenue to
support development.
support Development Across. The city is smart and timely
particularly as 47 Tif districts are due to sunset in the
next 4 years.
next 4 years and the city and its sister agencies like CTA.
and CPS face significant Federal funding.
and CPS pay significant Federal funding Clips, although the
proposal hinges on larger questions around tiffs. We cannot
lose sight of the fact that these bond funds will allow the
city to invest in critical needs such as funds for small
business.
business support jobs and Workforce training programs and
affordable housing and homelessness support at a time when
we are in intense National and Global competition for jobs
and investment while supporting the fundamental concepts.
and proposals. We would like to highlight some concerns as
mentioned.
mentioned and identified by credit rating rating agencies
our
Our City's finances are about to enter enter a precarious
moment.
As federal funds dry up amidst other budgetary pressures.
cost drivers continuing to rise we agree with
cost drivers continuing to rise. We agree with the Civic
Federation that this proposal does not account for the
upcoming.
upcoming Chicago property tax reassessment which could
materially impact the proposal given the increasingly
uncertain prospects.
uncertain prospects for Chicago's commercial real estate
sector and the challenges.
sector and the challenges continuing to arrive from the
mismanagement of the Cook County assess.
mismanagement of the Cook County assessor's office lastly
while we are encouraged that the oversight and transparency
guard rails have been put in place via the sub.
language the recent track records for City agencies.
administering and deploying these types of large programs
does give us pause. We strongly encourage the
administration to work collaboratively with other levels of
government and the business Community to identify
leverage these bond funds with private investment and
existing federal and state capital dollars.
existing federal and state capital dollars, uh, along with
other ongoing economic and Workforce Development initi.
initiatives to close. I reiterate that the good and this
proposal outweighs the potential concerns and the Chamber
remains optimistic that this 1.25 billion dollar funding
Mech.
mechanism will support efforts to Spur inclusive.
Equitable economic growth across Chicago for the reasons
mentioned we encourage the committee support today for
Passage.
passage of s0, 20247838 and committee.
passage of s0, 20247838 and committee and on the city
council floor. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. Our next speaker is uh, Mr. George, Blakemore.
This is disgraceful. Here. I was
This is disgraceful here. I was listening to the gentlemen
while he was speaking and that little group over here.
right
Right. Well Emma made right over there.
Right. Well Emma made right over there Tim and look at her.
but they wasn't
But they wasn't listening to this man this gentleman.
You see they serve They don't serve.
You see they serve They don't serve you you serve them and
look at it right now.
Look at her.
And I have to do this.
And I have to do this all the time.
all the time
when the puppet get up.
When the puppet get up, they're so disrespectful to the
public. They turned their back and fell on another.
public. They turn their back on but they want us to obey
the rules you are poor examp.
the rules you are poor example.
You have to set.
You have to set good example now, this is dealing.
You have to set good example now, this is dealing with
Finance.
Finance is money.
The tip is read to
uh expose to have been for
Aries that was econom.
Aries that was economically wasn't developed.
This whole system is broken.
It is.
It is a broken system.
And you the people have to do.
And you the people have to do something about this.
It is out of control.
And I'm not going to beat up on them.
you
let them get.
let them get away with it you like I say.
let them get away with it you like I say you can look good.
You can talk good. You can dress good and you can add good
and you can smell good and be a piece of shi. This is
what's going.
what's going on down here.
something is
Something is evil. Something is corrupt down here.
Maybe you all are corrupt. Maybe something wrong with you
and nothing is wrong with.
and nothing is wrong with them. Maybe you don't know who
you are and what?
you are. And what power you have they supposed to serve
you.
You don't serve me.
Now, this is a 1 party system here.
Now this is a 1 party system here the Democratic party. We
need a multi-part.
need a multi-party system. This is worse than coming in
this channel. Something is evil here and throughout the
United States. They're laughing at Chicago.
United States. They're laughing at Chicago Chicago. Chicago
is a joke.
It's a joke They're laughing bringing illegal immigr.
over here to this place the native black.
over here to this place the native black man that was
enslaved and brought over here.
enslaved and brought over here dealing with Finance you
giving them.
giving them Finance.
Now look over there, Mr.
Now look over there Mr. Hall just turned around and green
like IGN.
like ignorance.
every dog has his day and your day all y'all they
come and it's not gonna be good. It's not a good look.
It's not a good look down.
It's not a good look down here. Something is evil down
here. Something is corrupt down here something.
here. Something is corrupt down here. Something is sinful
down here. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Blake Moore the next.
Thank you, Mr. Blake Moore. The next speaker is Zoe lelay.
I'm gonna start with this.
I'm gonna start with this voicemail again for committee on
finance.
This is for charl.
This is for Charlene Marsh. I'm not sure if I've gotten the
right.
right person or not. I'm calling from the city of Chicago.
Law Department. Uh, I understand you were trying to
water department. Uh, I understand you were trying to get
through on on uh,
over the long weekend, um in any event
There are 3 things you can do if you want.
There are 3 things you can do if you want money for demolish
property if we're just talking about.
property if we're just talking about a little bit of money
the Alderman's committee.
the Alderman's committee on finance and I'm surprised your
Alderman didn't mention that to you.
surprised your Alderman didn't mention that to you.
um
So my older men of course the 17th Ward.
So my older men, of course the 17th Ward, uh, David Moore.
Um, and uh, we're still waiting on that.
Um, and uh, we're still waiting on that phone call, uh,
Alderman Moore, uh, because if you look on the second page,
Department of Law has 3, um, proposal proposed orders that
this city on finance will be the committee on finance will
be um voting for so,
be um voting for so this could have been
my mother's uh demolish property, uh that
my mother's uh demolish property, uh, that was knocked down
in 2017 and
in 2017, and he didn't do his automatic duties by
contacting my mother, but it's deeper than that because
like I said, my mother was reaching out because of the Tif
money that tax increment funding money for uh places that
is economically underdeveloped like 79th and Hallstead and
because
It clearly somebody wants.
it clearly somebody wants want want want still wants that
that that that vacant lot but
that that that vacant lot, but somebody wanted that whole
building so
building. So in order for because my mother kept fighting
my godfather kept fighting they they just knocked the
building down.
building down and because we can't get any help.
building down and because we can't get any help, uh, the
black people in the city of Chicago from the lawyers or
anything like that. Um,
usually it's just a
Usually it's just a loss but this is not going to be a loss
for my mother at the time the committee on.
for my mother at the time the committee on the chairman
committee on finance was Ed Burke. It wasn't pat down. So
you already know uh Ed Burr.
you already know, uh, Ed Burke, uh got indicted and stuff
like that. So, um,
He's the reason why.
he's the reason why my building is knocked down. He's the
reason why we don't have any money. So my thing is you
think.
think that you're going to continue to get away with this
when?
when you know, what you did was illegal and you are going
to pay for it if
to pay for it. If I got to come down here every day if I
got to hit up Fellowship Methodist Church and dress.
got to hit up Fellowship Methodist Church and dress up. I
will come in there and let you know.
will come in there and let you know let the Deacon know let
the pastor know how you are doing black people and all of
them Gresham I am
them Gresham. I am not the 1 and you play with the wrong.
family the wrong family.
Thank you, Miss slay.
Thank you. Miss. Slay. I want to acknowledge. Uh Alderman
Hall has joined.
Hall has joined us for uh, Quorum we
Hall has joined us for uh Quorum. We also have Alderman
Taylor and Alderman lie on.
Taylor and Alderman lie on remote and we also have a
request for Alderman sea Lopez to join virtually under rule
59. Can I get a motion?
59. Can I get a motion for Alderman CEO Lopez to join us?
Alderman Moore, um, so moves all those in favor signify by
saying I
opposed in the opinion of the of the chair the eyes have
it.
Uh Alderman CEO Lopez are you with us?
All right.
He will join.
at some point our
At some point our next speaker is Debbie Lou.
Good morning members of the finance committee. My name is
Debbie Lou with the Metropolitan planning Council. MPC is a
nonprofit policy and planning.
nonprofit policy planning organization aimed at building
equity in the built environment for the Chicago land area.
I'm here on behalf of.
I'm here on behalf of MPC to express support for the
housing and economic.
housing and economic development bond in proposal.
families across the city are struggling with housing
affordability.
affordability and many communities need Investments to
build.
vibrant commercial corridors with diverse businesses
Vibrant commercial corridors with diverse businesses. We
believe this proposal Can Be an Effective solution to
address both challenges by Prov.
address both challenges by providing an immediate Revenue
stream at that can be used to support.
stream at that can be used to support development where
it's most needed and critically we supported because of the
new borrowing will be paid over time.
new borrowing will be paid over time by revenues from
existing Tif districts.
MPC Recent research on financial development incentives has
shown that incentives for community and economic.
shown that incentives for community and economic
development largely have not in the past.
development largely have not in the past gone to areas that
are most star for development and resources. This is
largely because the biggest development.
largely because the biggest development incentives program.
Tiff was not set up.
Tiff was not set up to generate dollars in develop in
neighborhoods.
neighborhoods with greatest investment.
that the
That the geograph the geography limitations were fun.
can be spent insurers that the Investments.
can be spent insurers that the Investments that are used
this proportionally in areas where private invest.
this proportionally in areas where private Investments are
already occurring also contribute.
already occurring also contribute to Resource gaps across
neighborhoods and important lesson that we've learned that
is Tiff and not baked into a program from the onset. There
is little chance that the outcomes will then be equitable.
is little chance that the outcomes will then be Equitable
what the proposed housing and economic development.
what the proposed housing and economic development program.
We have a new opportunity to Center.
We have a new opportunity to Center develop Equitable
development from the very beginning without geograph.
limitations. This proposal will not be a Panacea for the
city's Housing and Development needs.
city's Housing and Development needs but if executed well
it can make tangible.
it can make tangible impacts to long-distance areas.
we
We have confidence in this proposal because new debt will
be paid over.
be paid over a relatively short time period while shifting
away from the over.
away from the overall Reliance to test to incentivize
development we
development. We are also encouraged by the commitment to
transparency and account.
transparency and accountability and regularly publishing
data on all.
data on all Bond funded projects for this proposal to have
Maximum Impact goals and selection.
Maximum Impact goals and selection criteria must be clear.
Chicago can be a
How It Centers equity and neighborhood need for the
deployment and development incentives that we recommend
that the strong consideration be given to funding projects
that include housing affordability to special populations
such as those re-entering from prison, um and whose income
are much less than the M area medium and proximity to
transit to Priority project selection criteria, we are also
encouraged that the continued use and refinement data
driven strategies and criteria for ensuring that Bond
funded projects work to truly close gaps between high and
low resource communities and work with existing Community
plans and stakeholders to determine where funding and
projects are needed we see this proposal as a positive step
to making development incentives programs more Equitable,
thank you
Thank you. Our next speaker is Kamina Brooks?
Good morning. Chairwoman, Dal finance committee. Thank you
for the opportunity.
for the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Community
Builders about our support.
Builders about our support of the housing and economic
development bonds. My name is Kamina Brooks and I serve as
director of development.
director of development for the Community Builders a
nonprofit.
nonprofit mission-driven developer.
tcb's mission is to
Tcb's mission is to build and sustain strong communities for
all people can thrive.
for all people can thrive.
For nearly 25 years TC.
For nearly 25 years TCB has helped build strong mixed
income mixed-use neighbor.
income mixed-use neighborhoods throughout Chicago,
including Oakwood.
including Oakwood Shores a public housing Redevelopment in
Bronzeville.
Bronzeville, 4715 Western and affordable Ito d
Bronzeville, 4715 Western and affordable Ito D in Lincoln
Square and assemble Chicago a future affordable mixed-use
development in the loop.
Oakwood Shores is a thriving mixed income Community.
However over 1,000 homes remain to be built the
However over 1,000 homes remain to be built. The supporting
Tif districts funding is insufficient for this.
Tif districts funding is insufficient for this scale of
remaining Community Development. However, the housing and
economic development bonds could complement the Tif
districts deficient resources to advance development phases
in the community including housing.
in the community, including housing and neighborhood
retail.
affordable housing in Lincoln Square at 471.15 is made
possible because of a TIF district expiring this year.
Going forward the proposed bonds rather than Tiff.
going forward the proposed bonds rather than Tiff will be
necessary will be the necessary tool to support this type
of opportunity area ET.
another example assemble, Chicago
Another example assemble Chicago can deliver over 100
affordable apartments in the loop for our lower and
moderate income downtown.
moderate income downtown Workforce.
in partnership with the YMCA
In partnership with the YMCA assemble Chicago can also
transform this long.
transform this long troubled section of State Street to
benefit all of Chicago. However, this site is not eligible.
to receive Tif funding.
These 3 examp.
These 3 examples demonstrate how a housing and economic
devel.
development Bond could help increase the delivery of
affordable.
affordable housing to equitably build and sustain strong
mixed.
mixed income neighborhoods and corridors.
I previously worked in.
I previously worked in Charlotte North Carolina where
housing bonds have long been a Valu.
housing bonds have long been a valuable tool in Charlotte.
I experienced firsthand.
I experienced firsthand how housing bonds help create Ito.
anchor mixed income neighborhood Redevelopment and
stimulate investment in under resourced communities.
the city of Chicago Chicago Housing and economic
development Bond presents an equally impactful tool to
deliver Ito
create more inclusive.
create more inclusive opportunity areas and stimulate.
investment in South and West Side neighborhoods.
And I commend Mayor Johnson and his team for putting forth.
this extremely valuable tool in Chicago.
this administration's cut the tape initiative and
housing and economic development bonds can truly
contribute.
to our city remaining and sustaining and affordable.
world-class City.
for these reasons
For these reasons I expressed support for the housing and
economic development.
economic development bond proposal and respect respectfully
request.
request your support as well. Thank you.
Thank you. Next speaker is Bill Williams?
Morning finance committee.
morning, finance committee, um honorable chairman Dao
um for decades the balance between uh production and
Um for decades the balance between uh production and um,
and delivery has has alluded.
and delivery has has alluded to Chicago's equilibrium.
We're behind in thousands.
We're behind in thousands of units and um, and I know U,
behind in thousands of units and um, and I know uh, some of
my colleagues in Milwaukee, they delivered 700 a
units last year and it's like a 9th of the size of Chicago
so we should be producing about 6,3
So we should be producing about 6,300 affordable units a
year. Um, so we're behind and that's something that have to
be done. So I'm here.
be done. So I'm here to express my um faith and commitment.
commitment, uh behind this uh initiative.
commitment, uh behind this uh initiative because it's the
right thing to do for Chicago.
um
Um the housing and economic development Bond presents this
promising opportunity.
promising opportunity to address the long-standing
challenges this initiative.
challenges this initiative had a potential um to for a new
funding mechanism to streamline the process and
consequently, uh enhance.
consequently, uh enhance production and hopefully reduce,
uh time and cost. I'm also working on a couple of projects
that have been 7 plus years and I have about 2 more
affordable projects that uh, we assume that they
uh financing because um the tip
uh financing because um, the tip is insufficient.
um, so you know and
Um, so you know, and we're just 1 small company. I'm sure
that a lot of colleagues in here.
that a lot of colleagues in here also have you know
hundreds probably?
thous
Thousands of units in the pipeline that need this financing
tool.
um
and so, you know as a lifelong Chicago and a community
developer, um, I've seen decades upon decades go past. Um,
and some neighborhoods that have no, you know, no activ.
in some cases. They have the client because they don't have
the tax.
the tax bases to support. Um, you know, the incremental tax
increase that Tiff, you know,
increase that Tiff, you know uses to to to provide finance
and put these projects.
Um, and so this hopefully will alleviate um, the Reliance
on Tiff and we can steer resources to uh areas that need it
the most
um and
um, and you know growing up in Chicago I've seen you know,
a lot of buildings get demolished and we now have this huge
issue.
issue with uh what they can land and that's 1 of our most
valuable resources is activating this vac.
valuable resources is activating this vacant land. It can
do so much for our our neighborhood to
so much for our our neighborhood to can create economics or
economic engines for these neighborhoods. It creates
density, which is 1 of the most important things to the
city to create economic activity. Uh, it it supports the
schools. It'll help people accountable. Um, these lots have
to get activated. Um 1
to get activated, um, 1 way or another and this can be 1 of
the tools that we can use to.
the tools that we can use to activate these these uh vacant
processes.
and again, um, you know
And again, um, you know by activating these Parcels it it
will make you know every community.
will make you know, every Community a neighborhood of
choice. You know, I live on the west.
choice, you know, I live on the west side, but I frequent
all type of neighborhoods and it's and it's depressing to
see 1 side of a city. Um,
see 1 side of a city, um, unproductive while the other side
is thriving and it's very it's hurtful.
is thriving and it's very it's hurtful as someone from
being from Chicago and so, you know,
being from Chicago. And so, you know, I support this
project not this project I support this initiative, um,
wholeheartedly um, because it's just the right.
wholeheartedly um, because it's just the right thing to do
for Chicago. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next speaker is Matt.
Thank you. Our next speaker is Matt silver.
Well, thank you.
Good morning. Chairwoman, Dal and members of
Good morning, chairwoman, Dal and members of the finance
committee. I'm Matt silver the 202.
committee. I'm Matt silver. The 2024 president of Illinois
Realtors Realtors have been fighting for housing
affordability and equitability for decades.
our 17,000 members throughout the
Our 17,000 members throughout the city have committed their
lives to helping everyone achieve.
lives to helping everyone achieve the American dream of
home ownership.
That is why.
That is why we are pleased to be able to support mayor May.
Mayor Brandon Johnson's bond proposal.
the proposal to allocate tax revenues from expiring
The proposal to allocate tax revenues from expiring tax
increment financing districts is a reasonable.
increment financing districts is a reasonable approach to
funding the city's critical housing.
funding the city's critical Housing Programs. We recognize
in particular.
in particular that this program does not rely on addition.
property taxes to execute.
with
With this proposal comes long-term funding source for the
cities.
city's Department of planning and development and the
department of
Department of Housing. However that promise
Department of Housing. However, that promise re-emphasizes
the importance of accountability and transparency in City
decision-making. It's our belief for this proposal to be
successful. The city will need to build on the foundation
of support.
of support it has received for this plan.
of support. It has received for this plan from all
stakeholders to engage all voices.
stakeholders to engage all voices and opinions for our part
the realtor
part. The realtor Community is ready and willing to be a
full participant in this endeavor to enhance our city.
Thank you. Our next speaker is Jessica Jackson?
So many important people here this morning.
I just wonder how many of these important people.
No other important people.
like for example
Glenn angel
the corporate Council for the city or Tina Laius
the corporate Council for the city or Tina lusia. However,
you say her name real estate.
you say her name real estate investor for public administr.
administrators Chief Timothy Evans.
administrators Chief Timothy Evans Iris Martinez Leah Jak.
Josy.
judge, Timothy
judge Timothy Maguire
judge, Carol
judge Carolyn Gallagher
kwami r
kwami Raul
You know all the people that helped.
You know all the people that helped steal.
black people's property
now you got a lot of
Now you got a lot of programs here talking about what this
Tif money.
Tif money and all that.
for affordable housing and all that but what about the
people who have property that they fought with their own
money? That didn't come to the government?
money that didn't come to the government to ask them for
nothing.
like my mother
that
That paid for her property.
And left it to her children.
only for the crook
only for the Crooked Cook County crooked city of Chicago
to violate her will
and try to take her property from her children.
Any of you important people know?
Any of you important people know them?
Can you find them?
Because it's a whole SLE.
Because it's a whole slew of people that didn't come to the
government for.
government for nothing.
I'm glad that a stenographer is over there.
taking notes in here
because there's no stenograph.
because there's no stenographers in Probate.
There's no written record.
for the process that it takes
For the process that it takes when they still your
property, so when?
property, so when you go to fight them in court like what
I'm doing, there's no written record of how they took your
property.
then
Then you come in here.
To get some help.
You can't get no help from the all Dominion.
You can't get no help from the all Dominion here.
I have 1 or 2 that tried to help and thank you. You all
know who you are.
But for the most part you can't get no help.
and when they call the only thing it takes
And when they call the only thing it takes is for the lion
tongue of 1 of those.
tongue of 1 of those City officials to lie.
And then they dropped the ball.
so
So all you important people suited and booted.
So all you important people suited and booted come in and
looking for money, which a big impressive.
looking for money which a big impressive speeches.
You need to think about.
You need to think about the people that you working with.
That's a bunch of.
that's a bunch of crooks.
They're a bunch of cro.
They're a bunch of crooks and they stealing black people's.
property that they own.
that
That they own and 2 low life in here.
That they own and 2 low-life in here to even help us.
Thank you. I'd like to acknowledge.
Thank you. I'd like to acknowledge that we've been joined
by Alderman Rodriguez and Alderman, uh Curtis and we'll
and Alderman Martin and they will be counted towards.
Quorum. Our next speaker is Nick brunnock.
And Nick why are you coming to?
And Nick, why are you coming to the uh, my I'm going to
take a personal privilege.
take a personal privilege and just thank you for the uh,
Letter you sent me months ago. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you chairman Dow.
Thank you. Chairman Dao. I appreciate it. Good morning. My
name is Nick.
name is Nick brunick. I'm serving as volunteer board
president.
president for the Illinois Housing Council this year.
the
The only Housing Council is a Statewide organization.
advocates for affordable housing for Working Families.
advocates for affordable housing for Working Families, uh
for housing for the homeless.
for housing for the homeless and also for more investment.
and jobs in communities that need it in the form.
businesses Health Centers grocery stores and other amen.
amenities that often go lacking in neighborhoods in
Chicago.
the Illinois Housing Council is
The Illinois Housing Council is in support and I wanted to
come here this morning to urge.
come here this morning to urge passage of the housing and E
economic devel.
Economic Development Bond.
Because from where we sit.
Because from where we sit we feel like our city faces an
unprecedented crisis.
An unprecedented housing.
an unprecedented housing crisis where too many families and
individuals are spending too much on.
individuals are spending too much on housing which leaves
too little
for food medicine education or savings
where we have too many tent cities in our midst.
where we have too many tent cities in our midst where we
have too many vacant lots and vacant.
have too many vacant lots and vacant buildings across our
city.
and where
And where frankly when we have too many communities that
need.
need basic amenities for families to thrive.
need basic amenities for families to thrive like grocery
stores and health centers and Recreation.
stores and health centers and recreation centers and this
housing Bond can create a new funding resource.
that we
That we can use as a city to help address.
That we can use as a city to help address those challenges
and to build a better City.
and to build a better City for all people here in Chicago.
to create a city that is more economically vibrant and
competitive.
But also to create a city.
But also to create a city that is more just sustainable.
But also to create a city that is more just sustainable and
equitable.
so I think this is an unprecedented opportunity for us and
even though the challenges that we Face are de.
even though the challenges that we Face are daunting.
There's nothing.
There's nothing that we can't do when we collaborate.
together.
Um as Alderman you have
a sacred Duty and a sacred job in the public sector dedic
dedicating yourself to make the city a better place to live
for everyone who is here and whoever want everyone who
seeks.
seeks to call our city home and I like to think that people
who have committed their vocation to Affordable.
who have committed their vocation to Affordable Housing and
Community Development also,
Community Development also have sacred work to do.
a vocation
A vocation and if we could collaborate together.
a vocation and if we could collaborate together and use
this Bond as an opportunity we
this Bond as an opportunity, we can create a better City
for everyone. Um, I urge passage. Uh, and thank you for
your service to our city. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Our last speaker is Mr. Michael Young bae.
Have anyone ever?
Have anyone ever seen? Um
a prison sale
or a mental institution
and they
And they and they rooms.
with no windows
poor ventilation
on top of that maybe bed bugs rat
On top of that maybe bed bugs rats.
and other Critters
Have you ever seen that?
Whether it's on the TV.
Whether you experience it or not.
Say to me this Tif money.
stands for
transferring illegals funds
you see because
this Tif money.
this Tif money also fund the shelters.
They say is y'all.
They say is y'all just giving away money to these shelters
and not expecting them.
Writing a blank check every check that come.
Writing a blank check every check that come through this
budget.
which
Which the mayor claimed he can balance?
should
Should be.
are marked
and also these places should be expected inspect.
and also these places should be expected inspected.
I hear people up here talking about how housing for this
housing for that and I'm not going to get.
housing for that and I'm not going to get into the racial
thing because you just can't say oh it's
so-called blacks or if a so-called Latinos or whatever
nationality may be you can say it's for everybody right but
though everybody.
though everybody not getting the same equality with hous.
housing.
everyone not giving the same and when I mean by equality
Everyone not giving the same and when I mean by equality, I
don't mean by.
I mean by.
I mean by the housing in our neighborhoods are nasty.
This tough money that been going out.
This tough money that been going out everybody trying to
come get the money grab. Oh.
come get the money grab. Oh, we need the bombs. Oh we need
to tip or we need to that but
to tip or we need to that. But if y'all real estate so much
booming.
if y'all so much making all this money in real
If y'all so much making all this money in real estate as
they putting commercials Etc.
they putting commercials Etc then why you even asking for
the money?
It seemed like it's just a money grab and use.
It seemed like it's just a money grab and use our people.
As a step.
As a stepping stone to get what you want.
And then the projects we see.
And then the projects we see is devastating in our
neighborhoods.
It's devastating in our shelters. How can children live
like that?
Who is you giving this affordable housing to anyway?
Because a lot of this stuff is planned for 20.
Because a lot of this stuff is planned for 2025 2027 Etc.
Well, so y'all can make them.
Well, so y'all can make them illegals able to get that
house.
And not just them at leak when I say.
And not just them at leak when I say illegals. I ain't just
pointing the fingers at Venezuela because we got a bunch.
pointing the fingers at Venezuela because we got a bunch of
Europeans coming up over here illegal. Look at all the
different languages that speaking downtown these Russians.
Etc.
You see but our people not getting nothing.
We we feeling the burn we feeling the the distress. We
feeling the stress y'all better clean it.
feeling the stress y'all better clean it up.
I thank you that ends the public.
I thank you that ends the public comment period I want to
acknowledge that we've also been.
acknowledge that we've also been joined by Alderman Ervin
and Al.
and Alderman Silverstein, uh and will be counted toward.
Quorum. Uh, we did receive 2.
Quorum. Uh, we did receive 2 written comments from the
Citywide Equitable development.
Citywide Equitable development Roundtable and the Illinois
Realtors they were
Realtors. They were sent electronically to everyone. Um,
they were in favor of the ordinance.
Um before the committee, we have a number of items. So
we'll start with the monthly rule 45.
we'll start with the monthly rule 45 report for the uh,
March 20.
March 2024.
meeting
Meeting and can I get uh approval for?
Meeting and can I get uh approval for some moved by
Alderman myths to wreck?
Alderman mitts to recommend approval of the monthly rule 45
report?
report all those in favor signify by saying I
polls in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have
Polls in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it. We
have a number of items, um before our committee today. We
have 9 items item.
have 9 items item number 1 is from the Department of
Finance. It's a substitute ordinance concerning the
issuance of General.
issuance of General obligation Andor securitization
corpore.
Corporation bonds for housing and economic development.
programs. There is an updated.
programs. There is an updated substitute ordinance, which
has been prepared and sent electron.
has been prepared and sent electronically to everyone. Um,
is there a motion to accept the substitute?
motion made by Alderman Harris all those in favor signify
by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair.
by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair the eyes
have it.
The Substitute ordinance
The substitute ordinance is now before the committee and
will be explained by Jim McDonald managing deputy corpore.
Corporation Council from the Department of Law.
thank you chair, Dal members of
Thank you chair, Dal members of the finance committee.
as mentioned
As mentioned, I'm Jim McDonald. I'm managing Deputy
Corporation Council.
Corporation Council on the Law Department.
The Substitute ordinance you have before you makes certain
changes from the version of the ordinance, excuse me, Mr.
MacDonald my fault. Um, I just want to acknowledge that
alderman
Alderman Ramirez Rosa has requested to join virtually.
Alderman Ramirez Rosa has requested to join virtually under
rule 59. Can I get a motion?
rule 59. Can I get a motion to allow him to join our
meeting?
So moved by alderman laspada.
so moved by Alderman laspada all those in favor signify by
saying I oppose Alderman Ramirez Rosa are you with
saying I oppose Alderman Ramirez Rosa. Are you with us?
Yes, Madam. Okay Al
Yes, Madam. Okay, Alderman Rosanna.
Rodriguez Sanchez
I'm here. Okay Alderman Taylor.
Alderman CEO Lopez here
Okay. I heard you Alderman Lee.
Okay, Mr. MacDonald.
Thank you.
The Substitute ordinance you have before you makes certain
changes from the version of the ordinance that was
introduced to council
last month
uh first
Uh, first a an approval requirement was added.
Uh, first a an approval requirement was added Awards of
bond funds of 5 million or more.
bond funds of 5 million or more now require an additional
Council vote.
Council vote before the bond proceeds can be spent on
those.
projects. You're also 3 reporting requirements.
projects. You're also 3 reporting requirements that were
added.
first as a
First as a quarterly reporting requirement the department.
of planning and development and the department.
of planning and development and the Department of Housing
will report quarterly to the Council on alloc.
will report quarterly to the Council on allocations of
Lords or expenditures.
Lords or expenditures of project.
bonds used Finance projects during the second preceding
quarter.
both housing and planning and development will also
Both housing and planning and development will also publish
and post on the city's website.
and post on the city's website guidelines for programs to
be financed with the bonds.
and we'll post on the city's uh
And we'll post on the city's uh an expanded incentives
portal Sim.
portal similar to the Tif portal.
with project information
about each project that's been financed and that will be
done within 1.
done within 1 year after each project is completed.
third reporting requirement
Third reporting requirement is an annual update of the
financial model.
which will be provided to the
Which will be provided to the council by the Chief
Financial Officer.
that will provide updates on the
That will provide updates on the projected City share.
That will provide updates on the projected City share of.
tax revenue from the
Tax revenue from the that would be provided from the
expiring tiffs.
expiring tiffs from the prior year along with project.
Debt Service on the bonds. Uh,
that are that have been issued to date or are expected to be
issued during the forthcoming year.
There are a couple other.
There are a couple other technical changes.
There are a couple other technical changes 1 to clarify
that.
that the reporting requirements and the approval
requirements.
requirements that I just described applied. Not only to the
general obligation bonds that are issued but also to the
sales tax accurizing bonds.
sales tax accurizing bonds if those are issued and the
ordinance Conte
ordinance contemplates that interim financing sources.
ordinance contemplates that interim financing sources could
be used which would then be rep.
be used which would then be repaid from the general
obligation bonds.
obligation Bonds were the securitization bonds. So certain
changes to the ordinance are to clarify that the app.
changes to the ordinance are to clarify that the approval
requirement and the reporting requirements.
requirement and the reporting requirements apply to those
sources of funds.
sources of funds and not just the general obligation Bond
proceeds. Also it for tax exempt bonds.
proceeds. Also it for tax exempt bonds that is important
under the tax regul.
under the tax regulations that there will be certain
language in the ordinance.
language in the ordinance if it's provided that interim
financing that the
city is using that's not
City is using that's not Bond proceeds is used and the
bond.
bonds are that Bond proceeds are then used to reimburse
those interim sources, so
those interim sources. So those Provisions required under
tax regulations.
tax regulations have been added so that we would have the
opportunity.
opportunity to issue the taxes and bonds which are cheaper
than taxable bonds.
if there are any questions I'd be
If there are any questions, I'd be happy to respond.
We've also been joined by.
We've also been joined by uh Chief Financial Officer Jill
jawors.
Jaworski and by Daniel Herz, uh from the Department of
Housing.
Can I get uh, Alderman Ramirez has requested virtual.
Can I get uh, Alderman Ramirez has requested virtual under
rule 59. Can I also get a motion to allow her into this
meeting? So moved by Alderman Curtis all those in favor
signify.
signify by saying I
opposed Alder Alderman Ramirez
we're
We're also joined by representatives from the bond.
teams. Um who are available here to answer.
teams. Um who are available here to answer questions.
Um, are there any questions from?
Um, are there any questions from committee members or
non-members? Yes Alderman Vice chair Conway. Um
In the in the paperwork, I noticed on the general.
In the in the paperwork, I noticed on the general
obligation bonds under 2.2 F the the maximum.
obligation bonds under 2.2 F the the maximum, uh, what page
are you on? This would be page 5 of the clean copy.
are you on? This would be page 5 of the clean copy the the
maximum interest, uh rate is 12% 1 or 2.2.
maximum interest, uh rate is 12% 1 or 2.2 F. But I also
note under
um
Under 3.2.
under 3.2 on page 27 that the maximum interest rate is not
to exceed 10% per.
to exceed 10% perom
are those is it on?
are those is it on purpose that those are different or is
this or is that a scrivener's error of some kind?
section 2.2 refers to the general
Section 2.2 refers to the general obligation bonds, that
would be issued by the city. Well 3.2.
Is referring to sales tax security.
Is referring to sales tax security bonds that we'd be
issued by the sales tax security.
issued by the sales tax securitization Corporation. Yep.
Well aware of that do you mean
Well aware of that. Do you mean to have them uh have
different interest rates? Is that was that
different interest rates is that was that on purpose or
maximum interest rates are not
There isn't
a substantive reason why they were could be these are again
maximum.
maximum interest rates. There isn't a substitute of reason
for a change.
Okay, too. Um
Right. Well it it uh Madam chairwoman at this time. I'd
make a a motion to amend, uh the face amount of this.
ordinance to a to a 350 million dollar.
ordinance to a to a 350 million dollar, um total amount as
well as reduce the threshold for city council approval to 1
million dollars, uh to be more specific I would ask
million dollars, uh to be more specific. I would ask the
amendment be made to the amount to the 2 whereas Clauses on
page 2 section 1.
page 2 Section 1.2 on page 3
.2. A on page 4 3.1d on page 27 and 3.2 a on page 27 and and
ask that the amount be amended to uh 350 million.
from 1.25 and addition
From 1.25 and additionally would ask.
excuse me, 1 amended from 1.25 billion to
Excuse me, 1 amended from 1.25 billion to 350 million and
also ask that.
also asked that 2.198.
uh be
uh B, which is the amounts that require City accounts will
approval be reduced from 5 million to 1 million. And that's
a question. You're making this is the motion I'm making.
Okay Alderman. Lisanna. Yes. Yes.
Okay Alderman. Lisanna. Yes. Yes motion delay this motion
on the table. Okay, there's a motion.
on the table. Okay. There's a motion to lay lay this uh
motion on the table. There's no debate on this motion and
we'll take a roll call vote.
by Cher Conway
Yes.
Oh, no, I'm sorry. No.
Oh, no, I'm sorry. No you guys know.
Again, I get confused. Sorry. I'm new here. Now. You do not
want to lay it on the table, I would.
want to lay it on the table. I would like to go forward
with it. It's confusion in your mind.
with it. It's confusion in your mind all all it's early
Monday morning. You're
Monday morning. Uh, so you're what's your vote? No, no.
Monday morning. Uh, so you're what's your vote? No? No, um
alderman,
Alderman laspada. Yes.
Alderman Hopkins
Conway was a no was spotted say yes Hopkins and no Alderman
Hall.
Yes, okay.
Alderman Mitchell
Alderman Harris
Alderman bill
Alderman Lee
Alderman Ramirez
Al point of information Alderman Moore
because this was so quick. That's the threshold and then I
heard the 5 or was it the 300 million in place of the 1.25
explain that's not clear.
explain that's not clear on that 1 uh, well
do you want to repeat your
Do you want to repeat your motion, which is not debatable.
Yes.
Yes, very quickly, please. Absolutely. I am asking to lower
the total amount of the bond.
the total amount of the bond from 1.25 billion.
the total amount of the bond from 1.25 billion to 350
million, and I'm asking
million and I'm asking to lower the threshold for city of
council.
council approval from 5 million to 1.
council approval from 5 million to 1 million. Thank you.
alderman
Alderman Ramirez
Alderman Quinn
Alderman Lopez
Alderman Moore
Alderman Curtis
Alderman oh
Alderman OSHA
Alderman Taylor
Alderman Mosley
Alderman Rodriguez
Alderman Scott
Alderman CEO Lopez
Alderman net
Alderette. Yes all
Alderman CEO Lopez
He said yes. Yes Alderman brunette.
Alderman Ervin
Alderman Talia Ferrell
Alderman Cardona
Alderman wag is back.
Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez. Yes.
Alderman Ramirez Rosa
Oh you joined us, huh? That was quick alderman.
Oh you joined us, huh? That was quick alderman viegas.
Alderman mitts
Alderman spaz
Alderman Vasquez
Alderman Reilly
Alderman k
alderman kunden
Alderman Martin
Alderman silver
Alderman Silverstein
Alderman chairman dowels a yes
17 yes, all the woman tailor is a
17 yes. All the woman tailor is a yes Alderman Taylor is a
yes.
18 yeses 13 no votes the uh motion made by alderman
Conway fails
the motion to lay, I'm sorry the motion.
the motion to lay, I'm sorry the motion to lay it on the
table.
Passes. Um, I'd like to take a 5 minute recess.
Passes. Um, I'd like to take a 5 minute recess, please.
Excuse me, Mr. Blakemore.
Excuse me, Mr. Blakemore, if you're going to continue to if
you're going to continue to shout out.
you're going to continue to shout out and disrupt this
meeting. I will ask to have you.
meeting. I will ask to have you removed.
That goes for you too, Miss Jackson.
the committee on
finances, uh been called back to order we will hold this
item item.
item item number 1 will be held in committee. Um, we will
now go to item number 2
Which is an ordinance concerning the execution.
Which is an ordinance concerning the execution of a loan
restructuring agreement.
Well, we're going to go out of order until we know. Oh
first of all, uh Jill
Jaworski our finance Chief. Thank you very much for
being here today and Mr. MacDonald. Thank you for your
time.
as well. Alderman Lopez. Just a point of order chairman is
this being held for later today?
this being held for later today or is this being held until
later? It's being held in committee.
later? It's being held in committee and when um,
we know when it will be held I
We know when it will be held I haven't decided yet. I will
let you know.
but it
But it will probably be another day. Thank you.
Going out of order.
while we
While we wait for members from the Department of Housing to
come.
come down, um, we will go to item.
come down. Um, we will go to item number 5, which is the
proposed order auth?
proposed order authorizing the payment of various small
claims against the city of Chicago, which is a direct
introduction.
introduction and that list of payments approved was sent
electronic.
electronically to everyone if there are no objections.
These will be placed in the omniv.
item number 6 a miscellaneous
under miscellaneous items a proposed order denying the
payment.
payment of various small claims made against the city.
payment of various small claims made against the city of
Chicago. It was also a direct introduction.
Chicago. It was also a direct introduction and that list of
payments was sent.
payments was sent to everyone electronically if there are
no objections. These will be placed on the omniv.
no objections. These will be placed on the Omnibus.
item number 7 were 2 miscellaneous
proposed orders authorizing charat
proposed orders authorizing charitable solicitation on the
public way tag day permits 1 was for Grassroots team LLC
also called Amnesty International for the Chicago.
also called Amnesty International for the Chicago Loop Lake
View Lincoln Square Anderson.
View Lincoln Square Andersonville Wicker Park Logan Square
and Bucktown.
and Bucktown from August 18th to August.
and Bucktown from August 18th to August 30th. 2024 on
Wednesday Thursdays.
Wednesday, Thursdays and Fridays.
and B
And B the International Rescue committee.
throughout the city limits of the city of Chicago, but
specifically tied to Michigan Avenue, Ohio.
specifically tied to Michigan Avenue, Ohio Street State
Street and Randolph Street.
Street and Randolph Street from April 29th through December
3.
31st. These were direct introductions.
31st. These were direct introductions and if there are no
objections, these will be placed on the Omnibus.
item number 8 from the Department of Law a communication
transmitting reports of cases in which verdicts judgments
or settlements.
or settlements were entered into for the month of March 20.
2024.
These reports were provided.
These reports were provided to the Department of Law and
was sent electronically.
was sent electronically to everyone if there are no
objections these reports.
objections. These reports will be placed on file with the
city clerk's.
city clerk's office.
Okay now.
Okay, now we will go back to
4 okay, we're going to go to item.
4 okay, we're going to go to item number 4.
which is from the
Which is from the Department of Housing and ordinance
concern.
concerning the issuance of Tif funds to the OG.
Washington A2 residential l.
Washington A2 residential LP for the Ogden Washington law a
A2 residential project located at 13.
A2 residential project located at 1312 South Talman Avenue.
in the 28th Ward.
this is for a tip am
This is for a tip amount up to 9 million dollars. There is a
subst.
substitute ordinance which has been prepared and sent
electronically.
electronically to everyone. Is there a motion to accept the
substitute?
so moved by Alderman kuden all those in favor signify by
saying I
opposed and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it the
substitute ordinance is now before us and will be explained
by Miss Shin from the financial.
by Miss Shin from the financial planning.
Department of the division of the Department of Housing
we're also joined by Dave mevis Lillian you
we're also joined by Dave. Mevis Lillian Yule, Jeff head
and Charles Hamer from the devel.
and Charles Hamer from the Development Group.
mission
thank you. Good morning.
thank you. Good morning shared out on the members of the
committee for the record my name.
committee for the record. My name is financial planning
analyst from Department of Housing. I'm presenting oh
Washington A2 residential project.
Washington A2 residential project next.
the proposed project is
The proposed project is located at 1312 South Avenue.
The proposed project is located at 1312 South Toman Avenue
Midwest the TIF district the project.
Midwest. The TIF district. The project is supported by the
ottoman of 28th.
ottoman of 28th World Jason Ervin and the 24th World
Monique.
monnique Scott next.
Okta watched in the A2 residential is part.
okta watched in the A2 residential is part of the
next please.
okta Washington a
Oh Washington a residential is part of the larger octo.
Commons Redevelopment master plan, which will include a mix
of Hong Kong homes blacks multi.
of Hong Kong homes blacks multi-story family buildings.
and Retail Office Buildings
And Retail Office Buildings in the London neighborhood the
area highlight.
area highlighted in yellow is the project is the second.
phase of the residential portion of the plan.
phase of the residential portion of the plan which will
create over 300 new units of mixed income housing the phase
A1 next.
A1 next to the project site is currently under construction
next, please
the development is a proposed new construction of
The development is a proposed new construction of 75 unit
mixed income building. The development will share
landscaped outdoor.
landscaped outdoor areas with a patio area a children's
play.
play area and a walkway throughout the entire.
play area and a walkway throughout the entire project area
with space A1 interior project manatees of face A2.
with space A1 interior project manatees of face. A2 will
include a welcome Lobby a computer room.
include a welcome Lobby a computer room and a fitness
center.
The proposed site is around.
The proposed site is around 1 acre. The land is owned by
Chicago.
Chicago Housing Authority. Cha strongly support.
project including financial assistance.
project including financial assistance and entering into a
75-year ground Le.
75-year ground lease at initial Financial closing for the
parcel associated with the development.
parcel associated with the development for $1 per year.
next please.
next
Next please.
the single purpose entity asked the Washington A2
residential LP will be the owner the develop.
residential LP will be the owner. The developer team is a
joint venture among the habit.
joint venture among the habitat Company Mount Sinai
Hospital and along the real estate Bank of America is the
construction.
construction and permanent loan lender it will also
construction and permanent loan lender. It will also be the
direct investor, London.
direct investor London real estate and monsai came together
years ago.
together years ago as communities coders and
years ago as communities coders and the former former the
idea of of the commons joined Venture because of their
shared vision for the community and then invited Chicago
based real estate developer.
based real estate developer the habitat company to join the
Venture and make the vision a reality some of the services.
will be provided by Mount Sinai Hospital.
will be provided by Mount Sinai Hospital including on-site
activities and workshop in job Readiness health
wellness and Behavioral Health
next
the unit mix will consist of
the unit makes will consist of 57 units for residents with
in.
incomes at or below 60% of the area.
incomes at or below 60% of the area median income and 18
market rate unit.
market rate units of the total units.
market rate units of the total units 30 will receive rental
assistance from the rental.
assistance from the rental assistance demonstration.
Program additionally 6 of these units will be dedicated.
Program additionally 6 of these units will be dedicated to
the Statewide referral Network.
the Statewide referral Network program.
Whose incomes were before the restrict?
whose incomes were before the restricted to not exceed 15%
of the Emi next, please.
the request to the city of Chicago for
The request to the city of Chicago for financial assistance
is up to 9 million.
is up to 9 million in Tif Grant from Midwest 5.
is up to 9 million in Tif Grant from Midwest 5 District or
23% of the total development.
23% of the total development cost. It will complete the
capital stack.
capital stack and enable the project to move forward.
Development and Construction other sources of financing
include a conventional Force mortgage.
include a conventional Force mortgage and construction
Equity bridge loan from a private sector General partner.
acti and deferred developer fee a 10 million Capital loan
from Chicago Housing.
from Chicago Housing Authority the grant list with cha will
generate approximately half million of State.
generate approximately half million of state tax credits
for sale to a private tax.
for sale to a private taxpayer. The project will also be
financed with 20.
financed with 2021 reservation of 9% low.
financed with 2021 reservation of 9% low-income housing tax
credits from Illinois.
credits from Illinois's Housing Development Authority to
generate approximately 15 million to the equity.
for the uses 74% of the total
For the uses 74% of the total cost will be attributed to the
hard.
hard cost 3% for contingency and the rest 23% for sub cost.
That concludes my presentation. Thank you for your
consideration.
Uh, thank you Mission. Are there any questions?
Uh, thank you Mission. Are there any questions from the
members of the committee?
Alderman Ervin
Thank you. Madam, uh Madam chair, um this uh, this is a
continuation of the August.
continuation of the Argy comments, uh Redevelopment
project, which is a uh off
which is a uh offshoot of the uh former Lawndale Court,
housing cha Housing Development, which were 2, uh, 17 story
builders in a a smaller.
builders in a a smaller, uh, mixed-use development that
were torn down during a Cha's plan for transformation. Uh,
which is now being this is the third of third iteration.
this particular area. We are currently about 85% complete
on the first uh area which was up on the map up on the
screen a little earlier. We've completed the uh commercial
component of it.
component of it and this is just adding to the residential,
uh, footprint followed by the last 1 which will be the town
homes.
homes, uh, and the like urgent committee support on.
this is a continuation
And quite frankly has a lot of different layers of financing
that are consist consist.
that are consider consisted of both federal state and now
local uh resour.
local uh resources to make this project go. So appreciate
it, uh positive.
appreciate it, uh positive vote from the committee. Thank
you.
Thank you.
Thank you all uh, thank you Alderman Urban. We also have a
letter of support.
letter of support from Alderman Scott of the 24th.
letter of support from Alderman Scott of the 24th Ward who
shares this?
Tif uh, can I get a motion to move this
so moved by Alderman Ervin all those in favor signify by
saying I
opposed and the opinion of the chair is the eyes have it
and this recommendation will be reported out.
At the next city council meeting on April 17.
At the next city council meeting on April 17th.
I'm going back to item number.
I'm going back to item number 2.
from the Department
From the Department of Housing. It is an ordinance concern.
concerning the execution of a loan restructuring agreement.
concerning the execution of a loan restructuring agreement
with Warren Ashlyn l.
with Warren Ashlyn LP hosted limited partnership for the
property located.
property located at 1533 West Warren.
property located at 1533 West Warren Boulevard 3, North
Ashland Avenue.
Ashland Avenue and 11 North Ashland Avenue in the 2.
Ward.
um, we're joined today by
Um, we're joined today by Chase wheeler.
from the Department of Housing and Bill eager who you many
of you know from his
of, you know from his days at the Department of Housing.
Um, he's now with the preservation of affordable housing.
And he is also here to answer any.
And he is also here to answer any questions. We might have
Mr. Wheeler.
All right. Good morning. Thank you. Chairwoman, Dow and
members of the committee. Uh, my name is Chase wheeler. I
am from the multifamily finance team within the Department
of Housing.
of Housing and this proposal concerns the partnership rest.
restructuring of Warner of excuse me of Warren.
All right, so this
All right. So this request is a proposed ordinance to
authorize the transfer of controlling interest in a
partnership. That owns the 75.
partnership that owns the 75 unit property known as Warren
apartments located at.
apartments located at 1527 West Warren Boulevard.
The proposed ordinance will not alter the balance interest.
rate lean position or maturity date of the loan.
rate lean position or maturity date of the loan and this
proposed ordinance does have the support.
proposed ordinance does have the support of aldermen and
vice mayor Walter Bernett J.
vice mayor Walter Bernett Junior.
Is it 152?
Is it 1527 or 1533?
So 1527 is the common address. Uh, there are 1533 if you go
by each parcel 1533 is the address of 1 of the Parc.
by each parcel 1533 is the address of 1 of the parcels, but
the common address is 152.
the common address is 1527.
Thank you. All Miss Pat as
You finish you have more. Uh, yes, we can go to the slide.
All right. So, uh here you see a property.
All right. So, uh here you see a property of the photo. Um,
so
the subject property can consist of 2 buildings. Um, so
it's building in the center and the building directly to
the right.
Uh, as I stated common address is 152.
Uh, as I stated common address is 1527 West Warren
Boulevard, uh, it is
Boulevard. Uh, it is located. It is on the east side of uh,
Oh, excuse me. Sorry, uh it is.
Oh, excuse me. Sorry. Uh, it is located on the east side of
Ashland Avenue.
Ashland Avenue south of Warren Boulevard and north of
Madison Street.
uh, well
we can take care of this Mr. Willer our committee.
we can take care of Mr. Willer our committee has this.
Okay, so
the correspond to slides that he has
Correct. So yeah, uh, so
a little bit more details on the
City investment in this property, so to support the
development of the subject property in 2018 the city of
Chicago provided 4.2.
Chicago provided 4.25 million in home funds.
Uh
and the
And the uh, excuse me, and the building was placed into
service in 2020.
so a little bit more detail 60 of
So a little bit more detail 60 of the 75 units are income
restricted.
Uh, they are capped at 60% of the Chicago area.
Uh, they are capped at 60% of the Chicago area median
income.
and so specifically this request is
And so specifically this request is to allow the
restructuring of existing agreements related.
restructuring of existing agreements related to the 2018
City investment.
City investment made to support the development of
uh, the restructuring Will consent to the sale and transfer
of the current.
of the current General partner's interest to a replacement
General partner.
General partner affiliated with uh preservation of
affordable.
affordable housing also known as Polo
and just to reiterate there's no change to affordability
afford.
affordability limits the term amount or interest rate
related to the loan.
and here we have the
And here we have the current and proposed ownership
structures. Uh, so on the left existing ownership
structure, which reflects Enterprise Community Partners as
the sole member.
the sole member of the general partner.
and on the right
Uh, you have the proposed ownership struct.
uh, you have the proposed ownership structure reflecting
preservation of affordable housing as the sole member of
the general partner as of closing.
All right in.
All right in conclusion, uh here the requested actions as
stated previously. Uh, I am joined with Bill eager
represent.
representing preservation of affordable housing who is
available to answer any additional questions. Uh, thank you
for your time and consideration of this matter.
Thank you, Mr. Will.
Thank you, Mr. Willow. Um
Alderman Curtis
you uh
when you when you spoke.
when you when you spoke with us, just uh
You talked about?
you talked about the
you say it's City media.
You say it's City median income. Is it the area or City?
with this project
Uh, I will yeah I can.
Uh, I will yeah, I can I can verify and get back to you,
but I believe it's the Chicago.
But I believe it's the Chicago area median income, but I
can confirm and follow.
Yeah, make a difference.
It's the area meeting next.
Bill do you want to add?
Bill do you want to add anything? I'm just giving you the
opportunity because you've been in this space.
opportunity because you've been in this space before
morning Madam chairman. Yeah. Hi. Good morning, everyone.
Thank you for considering this. Um, this is 1 of the
properties that was in the heartland hous.
properties that was in the Heartland housing portfolio,
which I'm sure many of you have heard about Heartland.
unfortunately has closed and um, so in this case we are
simply stepping.
simply stepping into the shoes that Heartland originally
held as the general partner, you know, nothing else will
change about the property.
change about the property the affordability stays the same
the restrictions and the term of those stay the same.
um, you know
Um, you know, we hope to bring up the occupancy a little
bit. But otherwise, you know, this is a property that's in
good shape and and just needs just needs a new owner and
manager.
Thank you, Mr. Eager. Is there a motion to recommend
approval? I don't see uh, yes.
approval? I don't see uh, yes Alderman Hopkins.
Yeah, thank you madam chair.
Yeah, thank you madam. Chair. Uh, this is a necessary
restructuring, uh to keep this project.
restructuring, uh to keep this project moving forward as
was stated the uh new ownership group.
was stated. The new ownership group is committed to keeping
everything on track. We need to do this now. Uh, the 27th
Ward Alderman is President. I think he just had to step out
uh in his absence. I will make the motion.
uh in his absence. I will make the motion for due pass.
Thank you. Thank you Alderman hop
Thank you. Thank you Alderman Hopkins, uh recommending do
pass all those in favor.
pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed and the
opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and the do pass
recommendation.
recommendation for this item will be reported out at the
April.
April 17th city council meeting. Thank you, Mr. Wheel.
right. Thank you.
item number 3
It's an ordinance from the Department.
It's an ordinance from the Department of Housing concerning
the First Amendment to the ISS.
the First Amendment to the issuance of multifamily program
funds.
funds to homekeep LLC under the preservation of existing
affordable renters.
affordable renters program for the acquisition and
Rehabilitation.
Rehabilitation of a building located at 2537 North Lowell
Avenue. 2904, North Linder Avenue.
Avenue 2904 North Linder Avenue and 4510 North Central
Park.
Avenue in the 31st.
Avenue in the 31st Ward and in the 33rd w.
We have with us today.
we have with us today Eve's mandair from the Department of
We have with us today Eve's mandair from the Department of
Housing who will be our presenter. We also have with us,
uh,
Carlos Robles Shanahan and Rafael Robles from Duo
development
Good.
Good morning chair. Good morning. Chairman Dar and members.
of the committee. Uh, my name is e
the committee. Uh, my name is Eve missio financial planning
analyst from the Department of Housing.
next
I'm here today to request an amendment to The Duo develop.
Development Corporation ordinance with past.
Development Corporation ordinance with pass Council on
January 24 2024. Uh do proposes an amendment to change the
ownership entity to home keep LC.
ownership entity to home keep LLC from Duo Development
Corporation.
all other terms of the original
All other terms of the original ordinance will women
descend next.
uh a little bit of History
Uh a little bit of history of Duo founded in 2019.
were Development Corporation is a community.
were Development Corporation is a community based we listed
development.
founded by Carlos, Juan and Raphael
founded by Carlos Juan and Raphael Wess Duo Development
Corporation is the 100% owner of homekeep.
Corporation is the 100% owner of home. Keep ALC home keep
Al
ALC was created to acquire 3 buildings.
ALC was created to acquire 3 buildings to preserve
affordable housing next.
the original ordinance requested up to $1 million from the
pair program to buy down the original.
80 North facility fund acquisition loan of 1.5 million to
maintain affordability for 8 units.
maintain affordability for 8 units housing 3 multi family
Building located.
Building located in the urban park Belmont quigan and hosan
neighborhood.
the P program
The P program is a refinancing loan Reduction Program.
The P program is a refinancing loan Reduction Program with
30-year program restriction.
30-year program restriction and loan terms the owner must
have permanent fencing in place next.
The unit will be affordable to household.
The unit will be affordable to household at 11% Ami and
Below levels.
There will be a total of 5 2-bedroom units and 3 3-bedroom
units.
4 of the apartment will be housed in the Central Park
Building and the lender and lower building will each House
2 apartment next.
the 2 building as you can see it are in the 31st and
The 2 building as you can see it are in the 31st and 323rd.
What others Cardona?
What others Cardona Junior 31st world and what you guys
sent just 23rd provided letter of support for the
of the project.
And as I said earlier.
and as I said earlier do own home keep
And as I said earlier do own home keep ALC
and home keep Al
and home keep ALC
Basically is a technical things.
Basically is a technical things the owner of the building.
Thank you if you have any question.
I'll be able to respond.
Are there any questions from members of the committee?
Alderman Cardona
Thank you chairwoman. Um.
when they came to speak to me about this project, I was
very um.
very hesitant, but as they explained to me, I was very like
very happy because they were bringing afford.
very happy because they were bringing affordable apartments
back into Belmont Craig and Hermosa neighbor.
back into Belmont Craig and Hermosa neighborhood.
2 out of the 3 that they have worked on are in my ward. Um
as I see the progress and I met 1 of the individuals who
rent the apartment.
rent the apartment I was very surprised how wonderful she
she she once she's a great resident but a great neighbor,
but she's very appreciative of that. She's able to live in
the neighborhood in Belmont Cragin, uh, because how the
rent is going high.
And the the thing is that we have to do more of these.
and the the thing is that we have to do more of these in
just not my community, but other communities within the
city so we could continue to bring affordable.
city so we could continue to bring affordable housing into
our neighborhoods. So I am greatly appreciative and I
greatly support this.
greatly support this this effort.
Thank you Alder.
Thank you Alderman Cardona. I know Alderman Rodriguez.
Sanchez is on the line. I don't know if you want to add
anything. I know we have.
anything. I know we have a letter of support from you.
Hearing uh, no.
Hearing uh, no, um, nothing from the alderman. Is there a
motion to recommend?
motion to recommend approval of item number 3?
Alderman Cardona recommends do pass all those in favor
signify by saying I
opposed in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and
this item will be reported out at the next city council
meeting.
Thank you you.
Thank you. You've done item number 4.
Thank you. You've done item number 4 and I will set.
so now
So now we will go to settlement.
item 9
item number 9 from the Department of Law. We have 3
proposed orders author.
proposed orders authorizing Corporation Council to enter
into and EXE.
into and execute settlement orders in the following cases.
First 1 will hear is uh,
Alicia Petty's versus city of Chicago
Alicia Petty's versus City of Chicago and Steve Le Lea carus
we're joined today by our
We're joined today by our Deputy Corporation Council Mar.
Margaret.
Mendel Casey
Thank you chair.
How you doing today? I'm good, how
How you doing today? I'm good. How about you? Happy Monday?
and good morning all
I'll start with a matter of Felicia Pettis, Chicago.
I'll start with a matter of Felicia Pettis Chicago police
officer. Leo's enter the plaintiff Felicia Pettis Lane
instruct the
instruct. The plaintiff's car as a result of the accident
the plaintiff injured her neck and back the Department of
Law.
Law recommends settlement in the amount of 17.
Law recommends settlement in the amount of 175,000 for this
matter.
on know
On November 23rd or 2019 at about 3:38.
On November 23rd or 2019 at about 3:38 a.m. The plaintiff
Felicia Pettis was in her.
Felicia Pettis was in her car on Cumberland Avenue
approaching Catherine.
approaching Catherine Avenue.
officer larus turned
Officer larus turned his squad car into the plaintiff's
Lane and struck her car.
Officer the Arcus was not involved in.
Officer the Arcus was not involved in a pursuit or
responding to an emergency.
The plaintiff's car went off of the road and into a wooden.
landscape bordering the sidewalk.
both cars sustained damage as a result of that accident
The plaintiff was taken to the hospital.
The plaintiff was taken to the hospital by ambulance from
the scene of the accident. She was diagnosed with a
sprained and received 3 months of physical.
sprained and received 3 months of physical therapy for
injections and 2 treatments.
injections and 2 treatments with an electrical stimulation
device. The plaintiff's medical bills for treatment total.
131,000 if this matter
131,000. If this matter were to proceed to trial a jury
could award damages.
could award damages for a pain and suffering loss of normal
life and medical expenses the Department of Law.
life and medical expenses. The Department of Law recommends
settlements in the amount of 17.
settlements in the amount of 175,000 for this matter.
Thank you, Miss Casey.
Thank you, Miss. Casey any questions from members of the
committee?
Seeing no questions. Can I get a
thank you. Alderman wag is back.
Thank you Alderman waguespack moves to pass of this item
all those in.
all those in favor signify by saying I
opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it
and this item.
and this item will be reported out at the next city council
meeting.
um item 9B, Maryland Sal
Um item 9B, Maryland Salazar versus Erika Perez in the city
of Chicago for 385.
of Chicago for 385,000. We'll also have this reported out
by Miss.
by Miss Casey. Thank you chair.
officer ER
officer Erika Perez knocked a plaintiff M Marilyn
Officer Erika Perez knocked a plaintiff M Marilyn salaza off
of her bicycle with a squad car.
of her bicycle with a squad car as a result of the accident
the plaintiff sustained a broken arm requiring surgery the
Department of Law recommends settlement of this case in the
amount of 385,000.
On June 12th of 2019 around midnight.
On June 12th of 2019 around midnight officer. Press was in
a squad car on.
a squad car on Milwaukee Avenue near Wood Street.
officer press was not involved in a pursuit or responding
to an emergency.
at that location there is a
At that location. There's a bike lane to the right of Lane
for cars.
officer press moved her car to the right to pass a
car.
the police car
The police car officer press's car struck. The plaintiff's
left arm.
left arm while the plaintiff was in the bike lane causing
her to fall off of her bicycle.
The plaintiff was transported to the hospital from the
scene.
scene a diagnosed with an arm and wrist fracture.
scene a diagnosed with an arm and wrist fracture the
plaintiff underwent surgery to her arm.
plaintiff underwent surgery to her arm in which screws were
placed and she was diagnosed.
placed and she was diagnosed with permanent nerve damage
the plaintiff.
The plaintiff has 141,000 in medical.
The plaintiff has 141,000 dollars in medical bills.
As a result of the accident the plaint.
as a result of the accident the plaintiff missed 14 weeks of
work at the time of the
of work at the time of the accident plaintiff was working
as a chef.
due
Due to lifting restrictions. She has as a result of the in.
injury the plaintiff claims. She can no longer work.
injury the plaintiff claims. She can no longer work as a
chef.
if this matter were to proceed to trial a jury could award
damages for past and future loss of normal life past and
future pain.
future pain and suffering disfigurement lost wages.
future pain and suffering disfigurement loss wages and
future earning potential the Department of Law.
future earning potential the Department of Law recommends
settlement in the amount of 38.
settlement in the amount of 3855000.
Thank you, Miss. Uh Casey. Yes.
Thank you, Miss. Uh Casey. Yes alderman laspada.
Thank you chair.
Thank you chairwoman. I'll only speak into this because
this intersection.
this intersection that we're discussing.
Is in the first.
Is in the First Ward and it's 1 that I've ridden through
numerous times.
numerous times and I've had
similar experiences thankfully ones that resulted in less
Grievous injuries than Miss salaz.
Grievous injuries than Miss Salazar experienced, but it
it's Des.
it's disappointing and frustrating and it's angering when
Chicagoans do exactly what we would ask them to.
Chicagoans do exactly what we would ask them to you in our
infrastructure and still end up.
infrastructure and still end up injured. So
I'm glad for the case. I'm glad to move to pass on it and I
I hope we can.
I hope we can think critically not with your team but with
C dot about additionally like how do we create protections
for?
for this stretch both for Miss Sal?
for this stretch both for Miss Salazar and everybody else
who uses Milwaukee Avenue in their coming?
who uses Milwaukee Avenue in their Cummings and goings.
Thank you. Thank you alderman.
Thank you. Thank you Alderman. Laspada alderman bazat.
Uh, I forgot to ask 1 question.
Uh, I forgot to ask 1 question in a briefing. First of all,
I do support this. All right, um, but we keep using the
word Chef. Can you define?
word Chef. Can you define Chef to me? Where where is she a
chef at? I mean there's a there's a a short order cook at
Denny's and then there's a chef at Gibson's or something.
like that. So, is that what we're looking at a chef at
Gibson's or
she was a chef at um, oral or
She was a chef at um, oral o r i o l e so, um, not not a
short.
short order cook fancy joint. Okay. Thank you. Thank
Thank you, man that 4 stars but 2 Stars I was told okay.
All right.
and whose
And whose Ward is oral?
just curious
Just curious. It's in the 34th Ward and it's a multi Force.
prefix menu. Very expensive very wonderful. I
you guys are coming and bring your Commerce the 34th Ward
take your take your spouses or whomever out for a nice
dinner. It's beautiful.
dinner. It's beautiful there. All right, and no doubt a
high income place. All right. Thank you. Um Alderman
laspada, uh,
laspada, uh renews his due pass motion on.
laspada, uh renews his due pass motion on this item you
want to speak again and if I may
It's a great restaurant and clearly.
It's a great restaurant and clearly the quality of her work
was exception.
was exceptional and we're talking about this case because
afterwards she was incapable of ever working there again.
and there's for the greatness of the restaurant there's
sadness to the case and to this discussion.
I'm I'm grateful for it.
I'm I'm grateful for it and I'll renew my motion to C dot
after this but I also
after this, but I also renew my motion to do pass. Thank
you.
you all those in favor signify by saying I
opposed in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and
we'll report this. Uh
recommendation out at the next city council meeting
uh
Uh the last uh settlement we have today.
Uh the last uh settlement we have today is Brian magia.
versus city of Chicago
versus City of Chicago for 750,000 and we're
Versus City of Chicago for 750,000 and we're joined today
by Deputy Corporation.
by Deputy Corporation Council Carolyn fransic
Good.
Good morning.
Um, I'm presenting the case of Brian magia versus the city
of Chicago. It's presently pending in the Circuit Court of
Cook County.
The plaintiff Brian. MAh
The plaintiff Brian magia is suing the city of Chicago for
claims arising out of his.
claims arising out of his injuries sustained to his leg as
well as a brief detention during a protest that occurred on
May 30th of 2020.
May 30th of 2020 on the Wabash Bridge Mia alleges that
Chicago.
Chicago police officers committed battery false.
Chicago police officers committed battery false arrests and
an alleged violation of the Illinois hate crimes Act.
an alleged violation of the Illinois hate crimes act all
under Illinois state law. May he has sued
under Illinois state law may he has sued the city of
Chicago only on ethereum theory of responding yet Superior
liability, which means that me
liability, which means that magia need only identify that
it was an employee of the city of Chicago that performed
the alleged misconduct and that he was injured by that
alleged misconduct.
The civil case was filed in the Circuit Court of Cook County
on.
on May 7th of 2021 on May 25th.
on May 7th of 2021 on May 25th of 2023 magia moved for
partial summary, Judd.
partial summary judgment against the city of Chicago and on
August 17th.
August 17th of 2023. Judge Moyer Johnson granted magia.
partial motion for summary judgement finding in favor of
magia on the issue of whether Chicago police officers
committed.
committed a battery and on the issue of whether Chicago
police officers.
police officers falsely arrested magia summary judgement
was denied as to whether or not the officer's committed a
hate crime. So that issue will be for the jury to decide.
the ultem
The ultimate issues that the jury will decide a trial is
whether a battery.
whether a battery committed by the police officer's
proximately caused me his in.
proximately caused me his injuries to his leg and whether
the officers false
the officer's false arrest proximately causes emotional
injuries the jury
injuries, the jury will also determine whether a hate crime
occurred the jury will then determine what damages to
impose on those issues.
impose on those issues should the jury find in favor of Mia
on the, Illinois?
on the Illinois hate crime Mia will also be entitled to
seek attorney.
seek attorney's fees in addition to whatever compensatory
damages our award.
damages are awarded.
Mia alleges that during the a protest on May 30th the 2020
near Trump Tower on the Wabash Bridge he was at
near Trump Tower on the Wabash Bridge. He was at the front
of the crowd where a police line had been established.
of the crowd where a police line had been established as
soon as he got their magia position was positioned in front
of the officers and according to Mia. The police officers
were acting aggressively towards the protesters including
pushing.
pushing the protesters and yelling obscenities at the
protesters.
protesters at 1 Point magia stated that he wanted to leave
the prot.
the protest, but he could not because a police officer was
Building and buys backpack and because the crowd was too
tight magia.
tight mayia asked the officers to make room so he could
leave but he was prevented from doing so MIA then says that
he puts his hands.
he puts his hands up with his back to police and officer
grabbed onto his back.
grabbed onto his backpack while members of the crowd also
grabbed onto him.
grabbed onto him magia claims that he was struck 1 time in
the back of the leg by a police officer with a heavy object
which which immediately caused him, um pain and he
collapsed medical evidence indicates that Mia sustained a
fractured tibial Plateau on the afternoon of May 30th and
in an injury to his ACL medical experts say that the injury
could have been caused by 4 different scenarios.
could have been caused by 4 different scenarios 1 a blow to
the knee to a fall 3 a blow to the knee with a fall and 4
hold.
holding a baton with 2 hands and pushing it against the
knee.
While he was on the ground with officers on top of him.
mihile alleges that he was yelling that his leg was broken.
He was handcuffed and 1 of the officers that was on top of
him.
him allegedly said that's what you get you effing n-word.
the only person that the Chicago Police Department knows
was actually involved in the detention was a civilian with
the Chicago Police Department who was a deputy director.
the time the city threw its person with the most knowledge.
who was asked to testify in this case could not identify.
the other 3 police officers that also detained magia.
the other 3 police officers that also detained magia the
deputy director was the only person identified.
deputy director was the only person identified by the
Chicago Police Department that may he participated in
mahia's detention and he does not know who the other offic
officers were that were detaining Mia and he does not know.
why magia was being was on the bridge.
He does not know what Miho is doing or saying while he was
on?
on the bridge prior to the detention and he does not know
why.
why Miho was being detained. He does not know what any
said to me here before he was detained or while he was on
the crown and he further testified that he does not know
the justification for mahi's detention the city of
the justification for Mias detention the city of Chicago
admitted that force was used against Mia.
admitted that force was used against Mia by at least 1
Chicago police officer.
Chicago police officer when a individual testified that he
was subjected to an emergency takedown. However, no 1 from
the Chicago Police Department.
the Chicago Police Department was able to explain why force
was being used against me.
was being used against Mia nor does it know the identity of
the officers that perform the
the officers that performed the emergency takedown and it
does not know the reasons for the use of force against Mia.
There was also No 1 from the city.
There was also No 1 from the city to testify whether Mia
was or was not struck with baton.
was or was not struck with baton to cause his injuries Mr.
Magia did suffer.
Magia did suffer a pla tibial Plateau fracture along with
the torn ACL medical testimony of a surgeon stated that
there's a 100% likelihood some level of arthritis would
develop Within
develop within the next 25 years and even a leg
of a complete knee replacement would be necessary.
here, it's already been determined by a judge that the city
is responsible for the battery to magia and the false
arrest. The jury will only need.
arrest. The jury will only need to determine the percentage
of fault to attribute to the city and under Illinois Law a
party found responsible for any percentage of fault is
responsible for all of plaintiffs medical.
responsible for all of plaintiffs medical expenses.
Therefore if the city is found even 1% the proximate cause
of the injury the city must pay all of mahia's medical
expenses. We recommend settlement in the amount of 750,000
inclusive.
And cost in this matter.
Thank you, Miss.
Thank you. Miss. Fronek Alderman spaz.
Thank you. Madam. Chair a question. You just said and I I
didn't ask this in a briefing. It's something you just said
that.
that uh came to my enemy so they're at this.
that uh came to my enemy. So they're at this protest.
We're making it sound like they were just there like it was
a prayer Rally or something and then the police all
sudden come in and storm troop and and start swinging
batons.
batons and pushing people around and everything. Do we know
what kind of a prot?
what kind of a protest this was? And I know you said there
was a lot of people but is it a couple hundred a couple
thousand and was it?
thousand and was it um, you know, I don't know anything
that would be
rare did that to America or
Rare that the America or uh, a prayer Rally or something.
What kind of a protest was?
What kind of a protest was this? That would make the police
just come in here and start swinging batons.
just come in here and start swinging batons and being
aggressive and shoving people around.
so this
So this was the Mets 30th 2020 protests. It was during the
time when a lot of people came down to the city of Chicago.
to protest the George Floyd incident that occurred in
Minneapolis. Um, I believe there were several.
Minneapolis. Um, I believe there were several thousand
individuals that were present in this particular location.
and throughout different areas of the city. Um, so no, I do
not believe it was a prayer protest so
not believe it was a prayer protest. So most likely then it
was an aggressive rally because I saw those riots, uh, and
I I didn't see too many peaceful.
I I didn't see too many peaceful ones where people were
standing in a corner and praying and say,
standing in a corner and praying and say peace in our
cities and so on and so forth, right I would guess.
there was definitely some aggressive behavior by
protesters. Okay, uh during the course of these uh protest
protests during. Oh we saw it was it was all
Know so uh, and once again, we don't know who the officer
was that said.
was that said this or if he was man woman black.
hispanic. We know nothing other than a police officer made.
a racial slur to a Hispanic guy.
Correct. That issue would go to the jury. However, there's
2 issues. That would not go to.
2 issues that would not go to the jury the issue of whether
or not there was a battery that occurred to.
or not there was a battery that occurred to Mr. Mia that's
been decided and whether or not he was FAL.
been decided and whether or not he was falsely arrested
that's already been decided that the city of Chicago would
be liable for those 2 counts. Okay.
be liable for those 2 counts. Okay, and then if reliable
for those 2 already, I mean obviously would we be a
reliable reliable for the rest of us I would guess right
because I'm a little trouble.
because I'm a little trouble and torn by this but if we're
liable for those 2 I I I
liable for those 2 i i i it'd be hard to vote. No if we're
already liable for something, correct, I mean
already liable for something correct. I mean, I'm asking
for your help. I know you you're going to say you could
vote whatever way you want. Well, so I yeah, I'm not going
to tell you how to vote but that there's been findings of
viability against the city of Chicago.
viability against the city of Chicago already on this
matter, so it would be up to a Cook County.
determine what level of damages to assess and 1% would be
and hook for a 100% correct. Thank you so much.
thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Alderman.
Alderman Ervin followed by Alderman Lopez. Thank you madam.
Chair really quick. Um, you you said, uh, this was
Filed under you say respondent.
Something could you explain that concept? I'm not an
attorney. So if you can just explain this bill so I can
understand it sure. It's a basically a state.
understand it sure. It's a basically a state law theory of
liability under agency. So that means that a plaintiff can
pursue a claim.
pursue a claim against the city of Chicago and argue that 1
of its agents or an employees was responsible for the um
injuries, and so it doesn't need
injuries. And so it doesn't need to prove a specific
individual like I wouldn't need to say, um officer Joe
Smith committed this misconduct. They just need to be able
to argue and prove that it was any City employee and
because we know that the Chicago police officers were in
uniform on that day, it's hard to
uniform on that day. It's hard to dispute that they were
employees of the city of Chicago during the time that
arrested Mr. Magia.
Okay, and you?
Okay, and you the medical schools were how much on this so
the medical EXP?
the medical expenses up to this point are 73,000, but
there's anticipated future Med medical expenses with the um
the osteoarthritis as well as a a possible knee replacement
in the future, which was seems likely based on um, his
surgeons.
surgeon's testimony. And what was your uh estimation that
jury
I'm sorry. What was your estimation or what was the
estimation if the trial if it were to go to trial?
What was that estim?
What was that estimation like so um, the plaintiff's
attorney?
attorney has indicated that he would ask for many millions
of dollars.
of dollars, um based on our review of comparable
settlements and these types of cases with these types of
injuries not specifically
injuries, not specifically against the city of Chicago, but
just in general, um, there's averaged and range from 1.2 to
944.
944 thousand dollars.
1.2 million to 944 thousand. So we felt that the 750,000.
um comparable and Al also relatively.
um comparable and Al also relatively low considered the
comparables. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
comparables. Okay. Thank you. Thank you madam, sir. You're
welcome.
Thank you. Alderman Alderman Lopez.
thank you madam chairman and
Thank you madam. Chairman and good.
Morning members of the committee.
so
I hear that we are already found liable.
I understand that we're trying to cut our losses.
But how much of a signal are we giving to?
But how much of a signal are we giving to everyone that was
out there trying to destroy?
out there trying to destroy our city that if they feel that
they even got a bruise from anybody in any official?
capacity that they can now sue us.
I hope that this doesn't send a signal to anyone.
a joke
because I think it does send a signal.
as we've seen plenty of our
As we've seen plenty of our lawsuits send signals.
I remember that day very well.
as I'm sure
As I'm sure you do and many Chicagoans do.
This traumatizing day when all hell broke.
This traumatizing day when all hell broke loose in the city
of Chicago.
when pictures of officers trying to hold the line and even
some of our own colleagues trying to throw our officers
under the bus just for trying to protect.
property protect people
if we are going to say that.
We're going to start paying out for people who acted.
outrageously that day.
simply because
they can.
where
Where do we draw the line and say no?
Well as I stated in this case.
Well, as I stated in this case, there is no 1 from the city
of Chicago that can testify that Mr. Magia acted
outrageously. In fact There's No 1 that can testify as to
why he was being detained at all.
So that is why the city has already been found Li.
So that is why the city has already been found liable for a
battery and for a detention and that is why we are
recommending settlement in this case. I'm hopeful in that
in the future that there will be Witnesses and people that
are able to come forward including Chicago Police.
are able to come forward including Chicago police officers
that can testify as to what they observe.
that can testify as to what they observed because that will
help the city of Chicago to defend.
help the city of Chicago to defend these matters in the
future.
And do you think our Law Department?
and particular the administ administration's plur
And particular the administ administration's plural.
Have done a good enough job to try.
have done a good enough job to try and engender the kind of
trust and willingness to work together to make that a
reality.
I have
Department. I'm not going to comment on any other uh
individual.
individual or Administration well,
I think that.
an
An unwillingness to come forward is because of what we've
seen.
In the past and what we still?
in the past and what we still continue to see
across departments when it comes to how we deal with our
offic.
officers and the perception that they are automatically
guilty whenever there's an issue with them.
I have very
Brave concerns that this will in fact send a message to
individuals
Who see this as just another opportunity to?
Who see this as just another opportunity to get paid by the
city of Chicago?
for their
outrageous careless and indefensible actions. No
outrageous careless and indefensible actions nobody out
that day was out there.
out of the kindness of their heart
Out of the kindness of their heart praying rosaries on the
corner. Thank you very much.
corner. Thank you very much Alderman. I well you have
another question. I do actually
How many similar cases are we looking at right?
how many similar cases are we looking at right now?
following this model
I I don't know what you mean by following.
I I don't know what you mean by following this model, but
since the protests from uh, George Floyd
since the protests from the George Floyd protests, uh, the
city of Chicago had about 50.
city of Chicago had about 50 lawsuits filed against it and
there's probably 15 or 16.
there's probably 15 or 16 of those remaining and when are
we going to see?
we going to see proposed settlements for those 16
remaining? I don't know that you will I don't I can't
predict that.
When are we going to hit are we going to have?
When are we going to hit are we going to have any hearings
or briefings or future discussions?
or briefings or future discussions about what remains so
that we could see if there's a pattern developing.
regards to these settlements.
pertaining to
Pertaining to the riots and what hap civil unrest I'm not.
in a position to say whether or not that would happen.
the lawsuit be willing to do that.
With a law Department, excuse me be willing to do that. I
don't.
don't speak on behalf of a law Department. That would be up
to.
to miss Richardson Lowry chairman. I would love.
to miss Richardson Lowry chairman. I would love to be able
to have a more comprehensive discussion.
to have a more comprehensive discussion on whether or not
this is going to become a pattern for the remaining.
this is going to become a pattern for the remaining 16
lawsuits that we have pending from the
Civil unrest from individuals who?
Civil unrest from individuals who may or may not have been.
not be
Not behaving that day. Thank you.
Alderman laspata followed by Alderman Reilly
thank you so much, uh chair so like
Thank you so much, uh chair. So like just getting back to
the the core of this we
the the core of this. We've already been found liable for
battery. We've already been found liable for false arrest.
This is related to
potentially whether a hate crime was committed against Mr.
Mahi. Is that accurate? That's correct Okay, so
Mahi. Is that accurate? That's correct. Okay, so I mean
going back to my
the the comments have been made it feels
it's
It's really unfortunate that we even have to.
It's really unfortunate that we even have to have this
conversation. Um
but we're we're trying to take hate crimes and
incidences seriously in the Chicago and part of that has to
do with settlement.
to do with settlements like this if if we're really
concerned with whether we'll see a pattern of the
settlements in the future. It feels like our officers
getting clear with themselves.
getting clear with themselves and maybe with the city on
whether they did. Um,
use racial slurs against Chicago on
use racial slurs against Chicago Ones on these days because
that's what we're talking about. Right and it it's
easy thing for some of us to talk about when who like white
men such as myself who will never experience hate in this
same.
same way in how emotionally and deeply hurtful. It is
particularly when it's used by an authority figure. Um,
And it makes me sad that we're even having.
conversation, but that's why.
Copa exists, that's why the community Commission on public
safety
Safety exists. That's why we do.
This work. So I'm I'm I'm glad that we're actually having
this conversation.
this conversation talking about the way hate crimes.
this conversation talking about the way hate crimes relate
to police misconduct. Thank you chair. Although this
settlement is based on the false arrests and the uh
battery. That's correct. I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay,
um Alderman Reilly
Uh, thank you madam. Chairman.
uh, thank you madam chairman, um as others have noted I was
also
was also uh,
front and center for the activities that oh
Front and center for the activities that occurred on May
30th of that year.
30th of that year and I wanted to refresh my memory. So I
went on to Wikipedia.
To take a look at what?
to take a look at what happened, uh that afternoon and it
you know, if you read the report you can check it out
yourself.
Uh by 3:30 p.m. That day hundreds were marching North with
some protesters throwing fireworks and bottles at police
officer.
officers tagging buildings cars and a bus.
officers tagging buildings cars and a bus shelter another
group climbed a bot a top.
group climbed a bot a top 151 shared in CTA bus.
demonstrators were gathering on multiple sides of police
cars and attempting to overturn them.
By 4 p.m. The crowd.
By 4 p-m. The crowd is split into several groups, including
1 heading towards.
1 heading towards Trump Tower which was markedly chaotic.
throwing bottles fireworks at police officers other
pushing police officers and trying to overturn police
vehicles. So clearly this was a pretty chaotic situation.
Um, and look I I understand that. Um, the law department
has to try and limit our liab.
has to try and limit our liability on these things. I
appreciate the work that you do. Um, but you have to
imagine for some of us here. Um, it's difficult going
through this exercise of of contemplating.
through this exercise of of contemplating, um a settlement
for someone who's particip.
for someone who's participating in rallies at that time of
day.
day in approximate to Trump Tower which became very
violent.
Towards our our men and women in uniform.
Who I thought displayed incredible restraint that day.
Who I thought displayed incredible restraint that day given
all that was going on in the violence that was being
directed towards.
directed towards them.
1 other thing that's important to note about the bridge
understanding that this individual was on.
understanding that this individual was on the bridge. This
individual should never been on the bridge.
The police were told to hold the line.
The police were told to hold the line and protect the
bridge which they did.
bridge which they did nobly for for several hours before
they were.
they were overwhelmed. So it does beg the question.
activities was this person engaging in?
activities was this person engaging in and I'm surprised
because I know the proximity of all the pod
because I know the proximity of all the Pod cameras that
have been have been installed along the bridge in on lobash
Avenue.
I actually have approved.
I actually have approved the menu funding for most of them
between the Pod cameras and the body cams. We're not.
between the Pod cameras and the body cams. We're not able
to establish the the environment.
to establish the the environment for the level of chaos
that was occurring when this person.
that was occurring when this person uh was allegedly hurt.
Um, I have to figure from all the different Vantage points.
There must be something whether police officers can can
testify what they they remember.
testify what they they remember seeing or not seeing
It was chaos it.
It was chaos. It was Absolute Total unmitigated. Cha.
It was chaos. It was Absolute Total unmitigated chaos, I
can't fault those officers, but we do have technology. Um,
so I guess 1 question would be um, what type of footage
exists that has been reviewed by
I'm sure the plaintiff's attorneys, but also the Law
Department.
So there is a pod camera footage and there is some.
So there is a pod camera footage and there is some body cam
but as you know due to the chaotic nature of those.
but as you know due to the chaotic nature of those protests
many police officers were deployed without body.
many police officers were deployed without body Cam and
finding body cam of a police officer in that scenario under
those Cirque.
those circumstances is basically looking for a needle in a
hay stack. Um, so we do have we do have podcast camera
footage of his um arrested detention.
footage of his um arrested detention, but I will tell you
this there were many people there.
this there were many people there and we have to be able to
explain why this particular individual was singled out and
dragged from the crowd.
dragged from the crowd and then placed into a an amb
because he had a severe injury he had a broken leg.
And I don't have 1 police officer or 1.
and I don't have 1 police officer or 1 individual that can
explain that explain why this particular individual was
dragged away when there were many other people that were
not
or how this injury occurred when he says that he was struck
with a baton.
So those are the challenges that I'm facing and I I've I'm
not naive to the fact I've watched hundreds.
not naive to the fact I've watched hundreds and hundreds of
hours of body cam videos from these incidents.
You know, I I understand what?
You know, I I understand what they it is disturbing and I
will also say that.
will also say that it would be very helpful for people.
will also say that it would be very helpful for people to
come, you know, and I'm not trying to suggest that no 1 was
willing to come forward, but we seriously just could not.
identify anyone who would be able to provide.
identify anyone who would be able to provide a defense to
the city of Chicago on this particular case. I appreciate
your position and and for answering the question.
would be some some podcast camera footage prior to the
injury that might.
injury that might show.
What had occurred here with this particular?
What had occurred here with this particular individual?
Um, so so I understand where you're coming from and the
challenges that you're facing and representing the city.
um
Um again, um, I I understand what we're being.
Um again, um, I I understand what we're being asked to do
here today. Um, I I do share concerns expressed earlier
that uh, especially with the Democratic Convention coming
here this fall the last thing we want to do.
Uh is help folks.
Uh is help folks monetize bad behavior.
And so, um given all the uh organizing.
And so, um given all the uh, organizing that's being
planned to disrupt the convention. Um, my concern is that
approving settlements like this.
approving settlements like this could help Fuel That Fire.
Um, and if someone who watched our city burned down not
once but twice, um, we don't want to see that ever happen
again. Um, so thank you madam chair. Thank you. Thank you
Alderman Reilly Alderman's Bazaar.
You madam chair. Once again Caroline. Just want to let you
know I appreciate.
know I appreciate you. Okay, and I maybe sometimes you
think I'm trying to beat you up, but I'm not.
think I'm trying to beat you up, but I'm not I feel I asked
legitimate good questions and this 1 was very troubling for
me and a lot of unanswered things and I don't know that you
can't answer them. I don't know there is an answer. Um, so
a couple questions that I thought of as were discussing
here where
here. Where was this individual from?
was
Was he did he live a black away? Did he live? Did he live in
a suburb? Is that live in Indiana? Do we know where he's
from? He he he was originally from the Dominican Republic,
but my understanding he'd been living in the city of
Chicago for about 25 years before this incident.
Was he in the living the 41st Ward?
Was he in the living the 41st Ward that he lived in the the
25th Ward. I mean was he?
We don't know where he's from. I'm not sure relev.
We don't know where he's from. I'm not sure irrelevant to
that Alderman spado. Just curious what?
that Alderman spado. Just curious what I'm just curious
about the relevance of the relev.
about the relevance of the relevance of the ward. Here's an
indiv. I'm trying to get.
indiv. I'm trying to get an idea how far he went to go to
the civil unrest because we're saying it's a protest it
wasn't a protest it was
wasn't a protest. It was civil. Thank you. I just was
trying to get content. Yeah, I mean this guy came
trying to get content. Yeah. I mean this guy came from who
knows where to wreak havoc.
knows where to wreak havoc upon our city, you know, I don't
know if he's from the suburb. Okay, he's born
Dominican Republic. We know that he's here with a bunch of
people.
people everybody knew it was going on that day. We know it
was mass chaos.
was mass chaos protests all over the place that and they
weren't protest.
weren't protests. They were riots pure mass chaos across
the city. We don't know how he ended up in the front or how
he got sing.
he got singled out. So, um, you know, I'm just wondering
where did this guy come from to come to something like
this? Why was he singled out? I I believe you did say he
wasn't the only 1 though. There was other people that were
arrested or or or or or bruised up or something like that
there.
There were many arrests that day from the Wabash Bridge.
but many interests that day.
we're catching release all over the city because they
basically just caught them.
throw them in jail and ran back out there to get on the
front lines because because of the mass chaos, um, and I'm
and I'm just wait and listen we got we got our own.
members preaching violence at the DNC. So I mean, I'm also
worried like Alderman Reilly is are we you know, what are
we doing here? What are we saying to people? Um, and I
don't know if we should just use this as a message to say
you can't keep doing this we're going to do business with
you. Um, I'm just you know, I'm just I'm just torn on this
1 because there was tens of millions of dollars of damage
billions of the country.
billions of the country that there was many of people that
yes.
yes, they were civil protests walking around with signs and
so on and so forth, but there was a heck of a lot of you
know,
know 550. I believe really bad throughout the nation.
know 550. I believe really bad throughout the nation, uh
bad protests with billions of dollars.
bad protests with billions of dollars worth of damage
people being killed. Uh, uh, uh,
people being killed, uh, uh, uh, uh in in in business areas
being ported and whatever so, I don't know what went on to
him. I mean,
him. I mean fortunately we don't have a an individual that
we're blaming somebody on but I'm still troubled by this.
and um, you know, um,
thank you.
thank you Alderman spado. I'm just babbling.
Thank you Alderman spado. I'm just babbling. I apologize.
Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. I'm frustrated man fresh.
frustrating. I know we all we we've all been there. Um
Alderman Vasquez followed by alderman
Alderman Vasquez followed by Alderman waguespack. Thank you
madam chair. Um, I really appreciate my colleagues
questions because this is
A little more nuanced than I think people want to admit
right there.
right? There are definitely folks who went out for prot.
protests. There were folks who were agitated to the point.
and there were some folks who just wanted to see
some level of chaos and I think for the officers that were
out there.
out there that's not an easy situation to discern. Um that
being said and to the point that was mentioned here.
were plenty of folks were able to walk back home.
were plenty of folks were able to walk back home, uh safely
and then you got folks who had limbs broken. I think
there's a difference there. Um, I think we also
in thinking about how much activity there was.
In thinking about how much activity there was should think
about why the protests began in the first?
about why the protests began in the first place when we
think about the incident how it affected a whole nation
understanding the people were so moved that they went
downtown to do that is something to be considered as well
there.
There are plenty of people who just wanted to protest and
make their voices heard. Um,
I appreciate that the podcast camera.
I appreciate that the podcast camera only showed so much. I
guess my question.
guess my question based on all of these factors is um to
the point that Alderman Reilly and other people brought up.
We've got the D.
We've got the DNC coming, uh, there will be situations as
well. It'll be Mass protests and it could similarly be that
kind of
uh disruptions have
Uh disruptions have we learned anything about what to do
proactively? Maybe it is
proactively maybe it is making sure that the officers have
their body cameras if they're going out. Um, what has been
learned from this case.
learned from this case that can help us improve so that
when we talk to D.
when we talked to DNC or when the DNC does come we're not
in similar situation.
so
So I I think your question would be better directed to the
Chicago Police.
Chicago Police Department. But I myself am aware that
they're doing a lot.
they're doing a lot of training and training scenarios to
be able to make sure that um arrests are prop.
be able to make sure that um arrests are prop properly Pro
processed. Um, so that we have documentation of each and
every arrest why individuals are being arrested what?
and to make sure that everything is properly documented.
and to make sure that everything is properly documented so,
you know unavoidably there.
So, you know, unavoidably there may be a situation where
the city has lawsuits filed against it, but we'll hopefully
be in a better position to be able to identify the
involved in those arrests and they'll be able to uh,
provide testimony in favor of the city of Chicago.
provide testimony in favor of the city of Chicago as to why
their actions were reasonable.
Okay. Thank you and and Alderman Vasquez, I know that uh
chairman, uh,
chairman, uh Hopkins had a uh, subject matter hearing last
week on the DNC and security. Um, I don't know if the
specifics of your question came up, but he might be able to
give you
Sure. Yeah, and I I'll
any um suggestions or recommendations for the Department of
Law that
Law, that might be helpful to inform some of that. Um,
you're able to provide to the chair if there are any that
be appreciated as well.
be appreciated as well, uh, that's all I have. Thank you
chairman. Thank you alderman wagas.
Thank you chairman. Thank you alderman waguespack.
um
Um, just a quick follow-up to my colleagues. Uh, what I
think was this question was uh is
think was this question was, uh is the plane of a resident
of the city of Chicago or a non-resident? He my
understanding is that he is a current resident of the city
of Chicago and he was during the incident. My understanding
is that he did move out of the city during a brief period
of time while this lawsuit was pending. Okay. Thank you.
Thank you chairman. Thank you Alderman wage.
Thank you chairman. Thank you Alderman waguespack any other
aldermen Lope?
other Alderman Lopez? Just 1 quick question chairman. This
is all in reference.
is all in reference to the met the first round of civil
unrest the second round of civil unrest which I believe was
in August how many lawsuits are or settlements are the
lawsuits are pending because of that.
So when I gave you the number that was inclusive.
so when I gave you the number that was inclusive of all the
um civil unrest dates which I believe
um civil unrest dates, which I believe range from May
through August. So there's approximately 15 to 16 of those
cases.
cases that remain I don't know how many specific cases
relate to the August unrest and is it also incorporate?
relate to the August unrest and is it also incorporate the
Columbus Day statue as well? Yes.
Columbus Day statue as well? Yes, it does. So in total all
of our outstanding
potential lawsuit violent
Potential lawsuit violent protests settlements are about 16
approximately. Yes. Thank you.
Thank you Alderman Lopez.
Thank you Alderman Lopez hearing. No other questions from
members of the committee. Can I get a recommendation to
approve item number?
approve item number 9 C.
uh
Uh here a call for a roll call.
Vice chair Conway
alderman laspata
Alderman Hopkins
Alderman Hall
Alderman Mitchell
Alderman Harris
Alderman bill
Alderman Lee Alderman Lee is yes Alderman Ramirez.
Alderman Quinn
Alderman Lopez
Alderman Moore
Alderman Curtis
alderman
Alderman OSHA
alderman
Alderman Taylor
Alderman Mosley
Alderman Rodriguez
alderman
Alderman Scott
Alderman CEO Lopez
Alderman brunette
I got.
I got you Alderman brunette.
Alderman Ervin
Alderman t
Alderman Talia Farrell
Alderman Cardona
Alder
alderman waguespack
You said yes.
Okay, Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez. Yes.
Alderman Mrs. Rosa
Alderman vag
Alderman mitts
Alderman spaz
Alderman Vasquez
Alderman Reilly
Alderman Knudsen
Alderman Martin
Alderman silver
Alderman Silverstein
chair dowel votes. Yes.
The vote is 25 to 26.
The vote is 25 to 26 this to 6 this item passes City
Council.
council and will be reported out at the next.
council and will be reported out at the next at has been
report.
report has passed the committee on finance and will be
reported out at the next city council meeting there being
no further.
no further business before the committee. Can I get a
motion to?
motion to recess until Wednesday?
so moved by uh, Wednesday 4
So moved by uh, Wednesday 4:17 at uh, 9:15 a.m. Motion made
by Alderman Vasquez all those in favor.
by Alderman Vasquez all those in favor signify by saying I
opposed
Lopez in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it. Um
there being no more business before us have
afternoon. The committee on finance is recessed.