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So we
so
the committee on licensing consumer
the committee on license and consumer protection will now
come to order.
we will begin with a roll call to establish for
We will begin with a roll call to establish quorum.
Fairman Silverstein's here
Vice chair Chico it's here.
Alderman Coleman
Oh, she's gone now.
Alderman Moore
Alderman OSHA
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alderman
Alderman Scott's here Alderman card
Alderman Scott's here Alderman Cardona here Alderman wax
back here here
alderman
Alderman Conway here
alderman
Alderman V. Oh he's on
Alderman spaz
Alderman spaad their aldermen
Alderman Spa's their alderman
Alderman Reilly
uh Alderman guard
uh Alderman Gardner
alderwoman clay
Alderman Martin
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There are 12 members present. Good morning, everyone we
have a quorum.
We do have.
We do have uh 4 Alder people.
We do have uh 4 Alder people on Zoom.
We have alderwoman Coleman. Are you there? Alderwoman?
Is she there?
Alderman vagus
present Alderman Lawson and
Are you there Alderman Lawson and Alder woman?
Are you there Alderman Lawson and alderwoman mitts?
Can we um?
Can we um get a motion to recognize these Al.
Can we um get a motion to recognize these alter people as
part of the
so moved by Alderman OSHA all in favor, say I I any opposed
Okay, welcome.
Okay, welcome everybody to our meeting to this morning.
Um, we do have some non-members.
Um, we do have some non-members here.
alderwoman Mana hopetor
alderwoman Mana hop atworth
And is there anyone else who's a non-member?
That's present.
Okay.
Do we have any public comment?
Okay, we do not have any public speakers.
Okay, we do not have any public speakers today.
So, um, I'm going to note that the committee received
public comment from Ashley.
eisenmenger
regarding the scooter ordinance. This written public
comment has been sent.
comment has been sent out to committee members via email.
We have 8 items on the agenda today.
The first item on the agenda is the appro.
The first item on the agenda is the approval of rule of the
rule 45 report.
rule 45 report for March 2024, which were sent out to.
committee.
Uh Vice Church Chico makes a motion to approve the rule.
Uh Vice Church Chico makes a motion to approve the rule 45
all in favor. Say I I any opposed and the opinion of the
chair is the eyes have it. The reports are approved.
Next up is 02024 D 0000.
Next up is 02024 D 0000000 8378 an ordinance to
Chapter 3 d130 of the municipal code of Chicago regulating
scoot.
scooter sharing business license.
this has been introduced by the office of the mayor and the
department of
Department of Business Affairs and consumer protection and
today we have commissioner Myers present with us.
And I am going to pass that on to him.
And I am going to pass that on to him for some opening
remarks.
Thank you.
Thank you very much. Uh and good morning chairwoman.
Silverstein Vice chairman Chico and members of the Chicago.
city council committee on licensed and consumer protection.
My name is Ken Meyer commissioner of the Chicago Department
of Business Affairs and consumer protection.
of Business Affairs and consumer protection, and I'm joined
by members of the bacp and C.
by members of the bacp and C do leadership team Max, but
Deputy Commission.
Deputy Commissioner over licenses and permits and
widell C dot Deputy Commissioner for the division of
Citywide Services. I'm also joined by representatives of
the 2 licensed scooter companies.
the 2 licensed scooter companies leave Foley senior, uh
director from the scooter company lime and John lingford.
senior director, uh from the scooter.
senior director, uh from the scooter company spin. I'd like
to start by just giving a very brief.
to start by just giving a very brief high-level overview of
the history of scoot.
the history of scooters in Chicago.
shared sco
Shared scooters were first deployed in Chicago in 2019.
Shared scooters were first deployed in Chicago in 2019 as
part of a 2-year pilot program.
part of a 2-year pilot program designed to test. What was
then a new form?
then a new form of micro-mobility Chicagoans quickly.
adopted scooters as a form of transportation.
adopted scooters as a form of transportation for getting to
and from the CTA.
and from the CTA commuting to work or school and
errands.
following the success of the pil
Following the success of the pilot program the Chicago city
council passed an ordinance.
council passed an ordinance in October of 2021 given BAC.
council passed an ordinance in October of 2021 given bacp a
framework to license shared scooter oper.
framework to license shared scooter operators.
lime and spin
Lime and spin were granted licenses at that time and
continue.
continue to provide this vital Transportation option
important.
importantly skewers. Help us achieve City goals
importantly skewers help us achieve City goals to shift
trips to more physically active.
trips to more physically active Transportation such as
biking and walking and to re reduce vehicle emissions.
C dot analysis shows that nearly 1 quarter of trips that
scooter riders take would have otherwise been in a vehicle
if scooters were not available.
if scooters were not available scooters are also scooters
also provide an equitable Transportation opt.
also provide an equitable Transportation option in
historically disinvested communities designed as Equity
priority areas.
priority areas last year a significant 42% of trips started
and the equity priority.
and the equity priority areas demonstrating the importance
of this.
of this program at Citywide.
in addition to advancing micro Mobility policy scooters
also an important Revenue Source over.
also an important Revenue Source over the last 2 years. The
city has received 2.8 million.
city has received 2.8 million in scooter license.
city has received 2.8 million in scooter license fees.
The scooter program my just described.
The scooter program my just described is 1 of 2 programs in
Chicago.
Chicago the scooter Pilgrim licensed by bacp.
Chicago. The scooter Pilgrim licensed by bacp is operated
by lime and spin Primm.
by lime and spin primarily outside the downtown area.
as a
As a note divvy scooters are operated by lift.
as a note divvy scooters are operated by Lyft under a c dot
contract which Primm
contract which primarily serves downtown together these 2
scooter programs generated over 4 million.
scooter programs generated over 4 million trips in 2023
more than a third.
more than a third of all Citywide share Mobility trips.
The ordinance before you today addresses the BAC.
the ordinance before you today addresses the bacp license
scooter program currently operated by lime and spin.
the ordinance advances
The ordinance advances 3 things to maintain this import.
The ordinance advances 3 things to maintain this important
microbial Mobility option for Chicago coins.
microbial Mobility option for Chicago coins while securing
Associated City revenues into the future.
first the Orden
first the ordinance increases City Revenue by modernizing
the scooter sharing license fee.
the scooter sharing license fee 5 years ago, and we all
were getting started in this in 2019. The license fee was
$1 per day per scooter.
$1 per day per scooter at that time this license
$1 per day per scooter at that time. This license fee model
was prevalent Nationwide.
In the years since however major cities have trans.
In the years since however major cities have transitioned
towards a modernized fee structure.
towards a modernized fee structure comprised of an upfront
fee to the scooter company.
fee to the scooter company in addition to either a per trip
fee.
or per device fee
Or per device fee this ordinance exceeds these Nationwide
standards.
standards by implementing a 250,000.
standards by implementing a 250,000 upfront fee per
company.
in addition to the to a 16.
in addition to the to a 16 dollar fee per device per month
and a 16.
and a 16 Cent fee per ride resulting.
and a 16 Cent fee per ride resulting in an increase in
projected City revenue from 2.8 to 3.2 million.
Second the ordinance allows.
Second the ordinance allows nighttime workers the ability
to commute by scooter.
to commute by scooter currently scooter rides are not
allowed between midnight and 5:00 am but with approximately
4 million scooter trips taken since 2022.
4 million scooter trips taken since 2022 and given
ridership Trends such as commuting to work.
ridership Trends such as commuting to work and connecting
to the CTA nighttime work.
to the CTA nighttime workers such as those at our Hospital
systems or other.
systems or other 24-hour institutions stand to benefit.
over overnight scooter availability.
over overnight scooter availability the third this
ordinance modernized in school or
ordinance modernized in schooler licensing 5 years ago in
2019.
2019 10 scooter companies were operating in Chicago.
fast forward to 2022
Fast forward to 2022 and only 6 companies died for the 3
licensed.
licensed 2024 only 2 companies.
licensed 2024 only 2 companies licensed by bacp are
operating in Chicago.
These changes reflect the consolidation.
These changes reflect the consolidation in the scooter
Market nationally allowing.
Market nationally allowing the city to bring scooter
licensing into alignment.
licensing into alignment with other issued BAC licenses.
Over The Last 5 Years Chicagoans have come to rely on
scooters from getting to get from point A to point B, the
scooter program has quickly.
scooter program has quickly become an important.
Has become as important as any other mode of
transportation.
the ordinance before you expands access to.
the ordinance before you expands access to nighttime
workers addresses the changes in.
workers addresses the changes in the industry and increases
City Revenue.
I want to thank you for your time and consideration today.
the subject matter experts Shaun widell from C.
the subject matter experts Shaun widell from C Dot and Max
but of us from bacp and the scooter company team.
but of us from bacp and the scooter company teams are here
to take your questions. Thank you, very, uh much chairwoman
Silverstein and members of the committee.
Thank you Commission.
Thank you commissioner.
Um and thank you for the briefings we had on this.
Um and thank you for the briefings we had on this earlier.
Um, are there any questions from committee?
Alderman con
Alderman Conway, um
So I I appreciate.
So I I appreciate that our city has become a leader in.
micromobility and I uh in the 34th.
micromobility and I uh in the 34th Ward actually has more
bike lanes per capita than any other word in the city,
which is something I'm I'm proud of um, however during the
during the uh,
initial uh pilot program, you know, we we received
Initial uh pilot program, you know, we we received a lot of
um, a lot of complaints about scoot.
um, a lot of complaints about scooters all over the ground
in the loop. So my question would be does this will this
ordinance add?
ordinance add any additional scooters to the to the loop
area?
Let's take that.
uh now that this present time that is the this, uh,
uh now that this present time that is the this uh is
essentially expected to be a status quo program at the
current time.
Thank you madam chair and that's all I have. All right.
I'll select your recognized almond Riley here for quorum.
Alderman Moore, did you have a question?
Thanks for recognizing me for quorum.
Thanks for recognizing me for Quorum, um chairman. Um, so
the there won't be an increase in.
the there won't be an increase in scooters. Um and the
downtown area where the most you use but there's going to
be an increase on the South and West sides.
We're not talking about.
We're not talking about an increase today. Well we talking
about today.
about today the 3 pieces of the ordinance which um,
about today the 3 pieces of the ordinance which um is
nighttime allowing it to go Knight.
nighttime allowing it to go nighttime 24 hours instead of
stopping from 12.
stopping from 12 midnight to 5:00 am, um allowing.
stopping from 12 midnight to 5:00 am, um allowing us to
just give a general licensing schematic like we normally do
give a what I'm sorry. I can't a regular Des licensing.
like we do with all of
Like we do with all of our other licenses you have to
remember.
2 years ago we had
2 years ago, we had 10 companies and at that time Chicago
City.
city council only authorized us to license 3 companies,
right? So then we had to go out for an RFP 6. Um, I had
applied there's a thorough process.
applied there's a thorough process between the 2
departments bacp and C.
departments bacp and C dot today. There are only 2
companies in the market.
And it's given us.
And it's given us the ability to license. You say it more.
I'm missing something. No, I'm sorry what you say? No the
traffic.
traffic yes to help me out. We're trying. We're just
changing the license schematic just to make it like yeah,
you should
changing the license schematic just to make it like yeah,
you should make some right. That's why I can't understand
you man. Um,
you man. I think um, just to give us the um, just like if
we do,
we do with all other licenses, okay.
All right, that's it.
Then the other stuff coming up later.
No, I'm talking about the other scooter.
No, I'm talking about the other scooter what we've been
breached on and briefing.
breached on and briefing that none of this is in this um
ordinance, right?
That that is what you were briefed on. That's your brief
down. Uh, we date or last they were increasing.
um scooters and
Um scooters and communities in the briefings. I think I
think rides are increasing not necessarily the devices. The
demand for rides keeps going up every single year.
But that doesn't necessarily mean there's more.
But that doesn't necessarily mean there's more uh actual
equipment on the on the streets.
So we're not going to be putting more this this is not
allowing.
allowing more scooters on the street. That's correct. Okay.
Just want to be clear.
Thank you.
alderman
Alderman Martin
Thank you chair. Um.
Thank you chair. Um my question let me know if this is
better addressed through the chair is for the current
fiscal year.
fiscal year approximately how much money we're anticipating
coming.
coming through with the existing regime, um once
fully goes into effect what that step up looks like or at
least a range under understanding that we're probably
talking about some um, projections and not
talking about some um projections and not a hard and fast
number other than the 250.
number other than the 250 upfront per company. Sure. Thanks
for the question Alder.
for the question Alderman Max budich Deputy Commissioner at
bacp. So in terms of projections to to take a step back
million dollars in Revenue over the last 2 years.
million dollars in Revenue over the last 2 years, uh from
this program for projecting into the the next 2 years with
this modern.
this modernized fee structure. We're looking at 3 to
million dollars in Revenue. So an increase of uh up to
$400,000 in Revenue.
Okay. Thank you. And then last question, um, can you share?
uh how um things currently work in terms of riding on
sidewalks?
sidewalks the technology that the companies have in place
to identify.
to identify when that's occurring and um what can be
to identify when that's occurring and um, what can be uh,
what is done right now to disincentivize people from using
it on sidewalks.
Sure. Sure aldwin, uh, Sean Whyte Alisa, uh, we currently
require sidewalk riding detection from all the from both
companies and that is a core requirement of our rules that
will continue to be in place. We work with both companies.
lime and spin and lime as well under contract.
lime and spin and lime as well under contract, uh to make
sure that that activity is disin.
sure that that activity is disincentivizing there are uh
penalties that can apply to the customers up to up to and
including removal.
including removal from the platform if there's an
inordinate amount of side,
inordinate amount of sidewalk riding by a particular
customer, okay?
customer. Okay? Um, I don't think it merits uh,
customer. Okay? Um, I don't think it merits uh time right
now, but if you can provide through the chair for both of
the companies, um, writing detection and just
the companies, um riding detection and just how that's
looking, uh, especially if and when we get questions from
constituents, I think that would be helpful to be able to
pass along. Thank you, and thank you chair.
ottoman Riley
Thank you madam. Chair, uh, I want to pick up.
Thank you madam. Chair, uh, I want to pick up where all
been Martin left off. And I think he may have been a little
too polite about.
too polite about it. Uh, and that's the sidewalk use. So
when we had this discussion not that long ago,
when we had this discussion not that long ago may have been
under the previous administration. Um, we spent a lot of
time talking about usage on the sidewalks and that
threat that exists especially the folks who are Mobility
impaired or uh, blind or deaf, uh, or
impaired or uh, blind or deaf, uh or seniors and we were
assured that this technology.
assured that this technology would make it virtually
impossible for people to do.
impossible for people to do this on our sidewalks. Um, I
was skeptical then I am now. Um, so like all
was skeptical then I am now. Um, so like Alvin Martin, I'd
like to see how many people have been banned from using
this platform. I'd like to know how many citations have
been issued or fees or fines or whatever and we'd like to
know where what geographies those are occurring in um, as I
understand it what's before us here today will not impact
the Divi lift contract. Is that correct? That's correct.
And this will not invite the competitors into the downtown
core. Is that correct? That's correct. And this is about
really extend.
really extending the hours to a 24-hour schedule so it
could be more useful.
could be more useful to those second and third shift
commuters. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay, the the
other thing I want to understand is the the fee structure.
so I understand this will provide a nominal.
So I understand this will provide a nominal benefit to the
taxpayer under a half a million dollars.
How did you negotiate with that new fee would be?
thanks Alderman again, Max, but
Thanks Alderman. Again Max Deputy Commissioner from bacp we
were looking at.
We were looking at um, uh industry standards.
We were looking at um, uh industry standards across the us
as the commissioner described in 2019. We started with 1
dollar per day per scooter that
dollar per day per scooter. That was a standard Across the
Nation at that time. We've seen every single other City
essentially move away from that over the last
essentially move away from that over the Last 5 Years many
some time ago were were sort of the last to the to the
table on that toward.
structure of upfront plus per trip and and or a per device,
uh fee and so what we've done with this is exceeded those
Nationwide standards by implementing all 3 of those, uh
industry standard variable.
industry standard variables, um to an extent that are at or
exceed, um, our our peer cities and other programs around
the country. So we made sure that this was solid and how
frequently will you be I guess revisiting the fee schedule
and structure is that an annual review is that is it set
out in the terms of of a deal with the companies know so so
like any other license as the commissioner mentioned
getting putting scooters on um, the uh aligning it with
essentially other bacp issued licenses the the
essentially other bacp issued licenses, the the license fee
for scooter is the license fee for scooters. So the the
intention behind this license fee is to make it
sustainable.
durable and uh to avoid revisit.
durable and uh to avoid revisitation and is it contemplated
that there will be
future attempts to get a percentage of a ride or or that
sort of thing. Is that where the industry is heading? Is
that where?
that where government's heading?
again in in terms of this
again, in in terms of this fee Our intention here is to uh,
let it lie where it is because we feel it's a sustainable
fee.
fee matches industry standards that have again evolved over
the last several.
the last several years. And so we've seen that Evolution
occur.
occur over a number of years over the last 5 years and at
this time it it appears to be relatively stable. Okay.
Well,
again, um, I I don't have any interaction.
With the uh, the companies before us today because they're
not within.
not within the footprint of the ward. I represent not much
of the word that almond Conway represents. Um, but I want
to be clear if there's any move to make changes to allow
Edition.
additional companies downtown and to increase the size of
fleets and those sort.
fleets and those sorts of things. That'll be a conversation
that happens here before City.
that happens here before city council. Is that correct?
Yep.
that's correct Alderman, okay, um again,
That's correct Alderman. Okay, um again, I I don't have a
problem with these devices when they're used properly and
when they're used in the right places on our RightWay.
when they're used in the right places on our right of way,
um, but on a daily basis every single day, we're seeing
near misses on our sidewalks.
near misses on our sidewalks downtown and while we don't
have 20 30 thousand ped.
have 20 30 thousand pedestrians on our arterial streets
walking every day like we did a few years.
walking every day like we did a few years back. Uh, we will
again,
again um, and so this cannot remain a hazard to pedestrians
and I think the companies all of them including Divi lift
ugh need to take a hard.
Ugh need to take a harder look at this technology, and I
want to see fees and fines.
want to see fees and fines that are assessed fairly but
aggressively to and I don't want the money and I don't care
about who who gets it the practice needs to stop and un
unfortunately a lot of folks don't have the common sense to
use these
to use these where they belong. So thanks for the
presentation. Thank you.
presentation. Thank you chairman, and I'll be voting I
Thank you. Thank.
Thank you. Thank you. Do you have any statistics about
accident?
accidents either from writers on scooters or or
yes, uh, thank
Yes, uh, thank you chairwoman. Um Sean widell Deputy
Commissioner.
Commissioner for C dot. We recently ran an analysis Alder.
Alderman Moore, uh requested this information as the
alderman Mitchell and briefings.
alderman Mitchell and briefings over the last couple days.
Um, we had done an analysis in the pil.
Um, we had done an analysis in the pilots and found that
about 28 trips per 100 thou I'm sorry it 28 of 100,000
trips 28 per 100,000 trips result.
trips 28 per 100,000 trips resulted in injuries and a visit
to the emergency room. Uh, we ran the numbers for the the
uh current program.
uh current program from uh, June of 2022. That number is
actually gone down in half. So it's 14. There's still some
injuries.
injuries, but it's gone down to 14, uh injuries.
injuries, but it's gone down to 14, uh injuries per 100,000
trips. So we're encouraged and that's in line with uh, what
we're seeing in other cities. They've done studies.
has done studies. It's actually below. Uh, what
seeing in other cities as well and we're encouraged by
that.
Thank you.
chairman
um, I I I want to start out by saying um
Um, I I I want to start out by saying um and representing
the 19th Ward. I have 7
has been a part of my community for more than 100 years.
Um, I think this could be beneficial as we're trying to get
more people to not drive downtown.
more people to not drive downtown but to actually take
public transportation to take uh, both the CTA and Metro
this could be
This could be beneficial in my community. Um, I wanted to
um,
follow up on what some of my
Follow up on what some of my colleagues had mentioned
anything we can do moving forward.
anything we can do moving forward, uh to have good
communication. Um as far as scooters are
communication. Um, as far as scooters are with respective
Alderman particularly those closer to the downtown area
where we have more pedestrian traffic, uh to make it safer
sharing information. Um, I would uh, I would ask that we we
try to make sure we do but uh, I think this is uh,
try to make sure we do but uh, I think this is uh good for
our city and uh, appreciate all the work.
our city and uh, appreciate all the work, uh, especially,
uh,
deputy commiss
Deputy Commissioner Buddha, uh, Deputy Commissioner widel
your work on.
your work on this appreciate all the information that you
provided to us. Uh, and
provided to us, uh and answered all our questions over the
last few weeks. Um, I will also be voting in support of
this. Thanks.
all the woman clay
hi.
Hi there, so my question is a little bit I think.
hi there. So my question is a little bit. I think that this
is a good ordinance. I do want to have some clarity.
is a good ordinance. I do want to have some clarity around
are we asking for?
are we asking for writers to have protective gear? I know
since trying.
since trying to go 24 hours. Are we expecting Riders to
have?
have reflective gear midnight hours is a little dark. I'm
just really concerned about.
potential risk of more accidents happening during that hour
Sure. Thank you for your question alderwoman.
Sure. Thank you for your question. Alderwoman clay. Um
Shaun White Alat again. Uh, I am we are
what I would say is the equipment itself. The scooters
actually have Bright Lights. They're required to have
lights that can be seen from 500 feet away on both the
front and rear of the scooter. They also have brake lights
when the
When the scooter is breaking. Um, there is not a helmet
ordinance, uh a requirement in the
ordinance, uh, uh requirement in the state of Illinois or
in the city of Chicago and I will say, um,
this may not be this is not official C dot policy, but I I
can say from a perspective of other cities where they have
instit.
instituted helmet requirements. Uh, it does lead.
instituted helmet requirements. Uh, it does lead to um
potential reasons for people to stop uh police in
particular. Um,
particular, um to stop people not riding helmets. Um, which
can lead to negative interactions. Uh, and then it's also
another
in other places for example, Melbourne Australia just as an
example.
example had a bike share program. They instituted a helmet
law.
law Bike Share program actually ridership produced.
significantly and ultimately shut down because of some of
that they were enforcing the helmet love very strictly in
Melbourne. So I think there's a balance and I think you
know,
know some of the studies health studies that folks have
done. It's actually even with the risk of not wearing a
helmet. It's actually the health outcomes.
helmet. It's actually the health outcomes are higher even
without wearing a helmet because you're
actively uh using active Transportation got
for that. And then last question is
You thinking of putting uh scooters in designated?
you thinking of putting uh scooters in designated spaces to
um,
my colleagues point of view we have hubs.
My colleagues point of view we have hubs of transportation
and we have divvy bikes outside of them. And these scooters
are left everywhere. I feel like I walk over them at the
dog park and I'm trying to figure out where is there a
central location that makes the most sense for people to
grab them? Um and
grab them, um and return them, um in a better space
sure, uh we are so
Sure, uh we are so we work with the scooter companies. Um,
we have installed this seed out has installed over 17,000
bike racks.
bike racks across the city. Um as you can imagine it's more
more difficult to cite those bike racks in residential
neighborhoods, which I'm sure is where you're seeing those
scooters. Um, but we definitely uh 1 of the things we have
instituted is we have a 311 code for um, you and your
constituents to call and if someone's if there's a scooter
left on someone's front lawn or something like that, uh the
scooter company,
the scooter company is actually have a a 2-hour window to
respond to that.
respond to that and to remove the scooter and that's
something we we very closely track and it's 1 of the things
that you know, if they're not hitting that metric we uh
have written V.
have written violation notices in the past. Okay if you
could get that information through the chair to all of us,
I think
ottoman wax back
thank
Thank you chairwoman. Um.
well first I want to say
Well first I want to say, uh, I appreciate you guys working
at this fee struct.
at this fee structure. I think it makes a lot more sense.
for Chicago, uh, I think like it has for other cities, so
For Chicago, uh, I think like it has for other cities. So,
um, I'm in definitely in favor of that.
um, I'm in definitely in favor of that and uh the program
as a whole. Um,
as a whole, um, the you know, I don't think anybody's out
here trying to raise funds off of this and you know,
fund other programs, but this is something I think um,
well, we'll continue to create the incentive to use these
and even though we're down to 2 companies.
even though we're down to 2 companies. Um, we want to make
sure we don't have a monopoly by 1 or and you know 2 is
okay, I guess.
okay. I guess they're still competitive, uh nature there to
uh, keep this program going. So that's a good thing and I
do support it. Um, I do want to just step back.
do support it. Um, I do want to just step back a little bit
though because uh, I think all of us have seen the issue
with writers on side.
with writers on sidewalks 1 of the most dangerous things
that um,
that this program encourages, uh not
that this program encourages, uh, not particular companies
encouraging it, but people just not having that
disincentive. Um you we have people with disabilities that
have to use the sidewalks. Our Ada ramps are not
particularly. Um, well taken care of in the city. Um,
We have a lot of people.
we have a lot of people with disabilities that have had near
misses that have called us, you know, and it's um, it's
something I think uh, you can include children and and
seniors and just every every person out there. That's
that's seen or experienced a near Miss. I think it would
probably every 1 of us has had a near Miss. Um, where the
Ang.
anger level does it rise to reporting that person, you
know, they're gone so fast that uh a lot of times
people are like, well, I didn't, you know, we say, did you
report it? Well, no, I was on my way to work and uh by the
time I turned around or got up off the ground I couldn't
see who had done it. Um, but I think that's something uh,
maybe if Sean if you could tell us a little bit more about
the disincentives and you specifically said, um,
up to removal from the platform
Up to removal from the platform, but what specific
penalties are there? So if if I look at other cities and
other countries they have a
other countries, they have a finds from $150 up to
countries, they have a finds from $150 up to $100. They
have um safe riding programs like
have um safe riding programs. Like I hope we do speed
limits on them.
limits on them, uh licensing of riders and of course, uh
going back to the finest and then a band so could you walk
us through what those steps are that would lead?
from a program for abusive Riders?
from a program for abusive Riders some to some extent. Yes,
absolutely and
Absolutely and Sean White out with seat out again. Uh, we
work with closely with the companies to regulate that we
do, um have the ability what we've done
standard for side.
detection but the 2 companies use different technology
Technologies to implement that um, what we do is uh to your
point. We do have we work with both companies to provide.
uh, scooter riding lessons. So, uh learn to ride classes,
uh, the scooter companies also provide helmets,
uh, the scooter companies also provide helmets for free at
those learner right classes. Um, and we have worked to in
those learner right classes. Um, and we have worked to
incentivize Positive Behavior Uh by the by the customers, I
I I would uh defer
I I would uh, defer to the scooter companies to actually
say how many customers might have been removed from the
platform. Uh, that's not a city.
platform. Uh, that's not a city decision. That's up to
them. But we do have a lot of those things in place related
to scooter safety. Uh, and
to scooter safety, uh and lessons and obviously, you know
having safe INF
having safe infrastructure for folks to use makes them feel
more comfortable to ride the scooters as well. Okay, so
going back to up to removal from the platform. Uh, those
are the specific things.
are the specific things that could lead to removal from the
platform. It's actually up to the 2 companies. Generally.
That's correct. Okay.
so, um
So, um, what the city consider?
Taking on that task.
Taking on that task of removing people from the platform.
for um,
And then also, uh, what's the date on how many?
And then also, uh, what's the date on how many people do the
learn to ride classes?
Uh, as far as removal from the platform we can certainly
work with the scooter companies to come up with steps,
which could be, you know certain certain metrics.
which could be, you know, certain certain metrics that a
rider violates that we could then.
rider violates that we could then uh require that they be
removed and that's something we could do moving forward,
uh, as far as the learner right classes.
as the learner right classes. I honestly, uh, we do get
regular reporting we require out.
regular reporting. We require Outreach and engagement
across the city by both companies. Um, but they can speak,
uh, both either lie or John,
uh, both either lie or John can speak more specifically
about the learn to ride classes that they're offering. Okay
before I go to them, uh Lee and John,
before I go to them, uh Lee and John so, um, basically how
many uh,
Sean I'm I'll finish up with you.
Sean I'm I'll finish up with you in just a second there but
um for the 2 of you how many have been removed what are
your metrics?
your metrics what how many people have taken the learn to
ride class?
ride class and um
You know is it from?
You know is it from and give us the age group breakdown if
you could?
you could but um also, uh, Sean
you could but um also, uh Sean in terms of you know, you
mentioned how many people ended up in the ER. Uh, I think
um, the near misses is probably a greatly under reported,
um number
number. Um,
And again, that's I think my biggest.
And again, that's I think my biggest concern if people are
on the street and they're without a helmet that's on them.
You know, that's
uh good old American, uh value of like, you know, let people
do their own thing and if they crash that's on them as long
as we're you know, not
as we're, you know, not paying for it. Um,
but
in terms of the near misses and the data that shows that
they are on these sidewalks. So we're coming off an ad.
ramp or going through a crosswalk. Um, do you really kind
of Pare that down in terms of the is a GPS data that you
can see where these accidents are happening? Where the
report?
reports are
most of the data that we've been able to find for uh crash
crashes and er visits is really from the health department.
Um, and it's through the uh, I don't remember the name.
the database but there's an emergency room reporting tool
that the health department uses. Um, and so they pulled
this data for us that referenced, uh that the
this data for us that referenced, uh, that the injury
involved the scooter so they searched the term scooter
within that database. That's a that's our best available.
data that we have to to track that information is there
any other term other than scooter that
would show that
Would show that because if you're in the ER you're not
neces.
necessarily.
able to respond sometimes but um, maybe you say
I don't know I think scooter is the main East.
I don't know I think scooter is the main East scooter East
and scooter are the main terms that they they did.
for us and that was the same data that we use. That was the
same.
the same process. We used in 2019 and
same process. We used in 2019 and 2020 to look at the data
as well. That showed that we've seen a
as well that showed that we've seen a significant reduction
in those injuries and visits deers. Okay. Um, thank you
very much for that. So, uh, John and Lis if you guys could
go over from your perspective, uh, how you're addressing
these issues and and what thoughts you have in terms of
real incentives to remove people from the platform and what
those steps.
those steps are because um, you know, if you're a for
instance a driver and a vehicle,
I mean, obviously there's outliers.
I mean, obviously there's outliers there, but you can have
your license removed for
for driving. So um to that same
For driving. So um to that same extent on sidewalks and
hitting people in crosswalks or near misses. How do you
guys approach that?
Uh, I'm gonna
Sorry, Kylie, uh, I'm gonna ask.
sorry, Kylie, uh, I'm gonna ask Lee Foley from lime to
start and I know that we also have that discussion, um
about the sidewalk detection. So if you could um address
that
Too. Don't worry. Thank you so much cheer. Uh, thank you
ottoman wages back for your question. Uh, Lee Foley.
director of government community relations for lime based
in Chicago. All right to your question in regards to uh
sidewalk rid.
sidewalk riding detection lime has active, uh sidewalk
riding detection.
riding detection that we have actively before the 2022 20
pilot or permanent.
That we're in today, um tested this uh technology.
That we're in today, um tested this uh technology primarily
downtown, Lincoln Park.
downtown Lincoln Park in our high density commercial
corridors to make sure that it's rigorous.
corridors to make sure that it's rigorous and tested
thoroughly, um when it comes to viol,
thoroughly, um, when it comes to violations any sidewalk
riding that uh that we detect we're able to assess fines.
We have a 5 level.
We have a 5 level violation process. Uh, so you were issued
a warning, uh, 3, um finds that are progressive, uh by that
last uh violation, uh, you have the opportunity to be
deplatformed I can
deplatformed. I can share with you the data the specific
numbers on the uh number of
numbers on the uh, number of individuals that have been
deplatformed from lime, and we'd work with the
Chicago the C Dot and the bacp to be able to uh, better
correlate that data between the operators. You don't have
to share the names but the data would be helpful. I think
to share through the chair absolutely and we wouldn't be
able to share the names as the data is anonymized, uh, but
to that point, uh, we also have I want to know which 1 of
my neighbors keeps.
riding past the house at 8 oclock in the morning on the
sidewalk. I'm always curious about the cyclist.
the stop signs and what now but to your point, uh on the
number of free helmets. Um again this number, uh,
number of free helmets. Um, again this number uh of uh free
helmets that have been distributed is recorded.
helmets that have been distributed is recorded by C Dot and
so the estimates that I'm giving you are just estimates,
but it's in the range of hundreds of uh helmets that we've
given out. Um, I was telling uh chair Silverstein just
yesterday during the pandemic. It was me, uh driving around
to Ward service offices to deliver boxes of free helmets.
be able to give out to constituents, especially at a point
where people were looking to be outside and be active and
so again,
is available with CI and I work with them to get a
specific data that you're looking for and the training
program, uh first ride.
program. Uh, first ride Academy is what we call them. Uh,
and so for a line first ride academies is where we provide
a free helmets, um in training for people who do not know
how to ride scooters and I think that's the vast majority
of people. Uh, and so those uh, first ride Academy is when
our team members go out, sometimes we'll do it voluntarily.
We will uh, go into a park. We'll set up we'll have our
tent we'll have the scooters out.
we'll have the scooters out and we'll have the T table of
helmets we have
helmets. We have safety vests the people for people who are
interested in going out into the streets.
interested in going out into the streets to your Point Auto
woman and Clay, uh, and just thinking about the best ways
to be able to educate people on how to ride properly. Um,
and then they're able to leave with that safety gear,
right? That's Theirs to keep uh, beyond that chairman could
could I just add um, and then John if you could jump in
just add um, and then John if you could jump in and last
question, um,
Ada comp
ADA compliance or Ada respect for people with disabilities
how
How do you address that either in the uh
First ride Academy or otherwise, absolutely.
First ride Academy or otherwise absolutely. So our rules
are aligned with that of the city of Chicago and that we
prohibit sidewalk riding, uh, and that these are messages
that are regularly surfaced to our Riders, uh is uh,
rules of the road for the city of Chicago, um not to be on
side.
sidewalks to be respectful of people pedestrian yield to
pedestrians those types of issues, uh, and when it comes to
any types of violations, um, when we receive these reports
from customer service we have
from customer service, we have the ability to be able to
look at those instances in those moments and we regularly
review that data to identify any Trends and we communicate
that data with the city to think about the best way to
address it proactively, um moving forward.
Thank you. Thank you and if we could have John.
Thank you. Thank you and if we could have John Linker from
spin.
Uh, thank you chair Silverstein Alderman. Thank you for
your question. John Lankford, uh from spin.
your question. John Lankford, uh from spin, uh, appreciate
the opportunity to be here to jump in.
the opportunity to be here to jump in to these questions on
the warnings and finds it's an escalating fee struct.
the warnings and finds it's an escalating fee structure.
Um, very similar to uh, what Lee talked about, you know, we
first issue a warning.
first issue a warning and then there's uh monetary penalty.
an increased monetary penalty, and then we'll remove folks
from the platform. I don't have the I don't have our data
from from the past 2 years of the program.
from from the past 2 years of the program, but happy to
send that over. Um, I will say what we and what's the
breakdown of the penalties if you could we said
breakdown of the penalties if you can we set it. Um, we set
it custom each City. It's usually uh starts at like a
warning a ten.
warning a ten dollar fine 25 is the next level and then
we're usually out.
we're usually out from there.
Um, we often will also.
Um, we often will also um integrate a safety quiz, um
Within
within their um, so like you get a warning and then you're
required to take a quiz. Um, and then you're
required to take a quiz, um, and then you're uh issued the
warning because we we don't want folks to leave.
warning because we we don't want folks to leave, uh, the
platform. Um, the other thing I want I wanted to share is
um, we studied sidewalk riding detection closely, um in
parts of the city, uh, North Side Westside Southside last
year in between May and October of last year, uh, we saw
25% decrease
Writings and during the month of July the highest month we
saw 40.
saw a 40% decrease. So I think while it is an issue, we
need to continue to innovate around it.
need to continue to innovate around it which we are doing.
Um, I think it's also important.
Um, I think it's also important that we share and recognize
that like Riders are starting.
that like Riders are starting to under stand scooters
better. It's a new technology. They're learning the rules.
Uh, and they're uh,
uh, and they're uh adapting and we see that borne out in
the data, so I wanted to share
the data. So I wanted to share that um on the community
outreach.
outreach, uh last year the program we did about 10 events.
per quarter. They were focused largely in the equity
priority.
priority areas between 20 and 40 folks would come out to
each of those. That's where we call our spin academy. Uh,
each of those. That's where we call our spin academy, uh,
very similar. It's learn how to ride its learn.
very similar. It's learn how to ride it's learned the the
dos and don'ts of where to park. Um, and then it's it's
going to a helmet and and we're in the same boat hundreds
of helmets.
of helmets, uh, given away. Um, and
of helmets, uh, given away, um, and, you know continuing to
continuing to find new ways and then the last piece I would
add is the um,
would add is the um is the in-app the the Rider Education
we
Email our writers. We require them to look at writing.
Email our writers. We require them to look at writing rules
every time they go to to rent a scooter. So we are working.
We are pushing hard, uh to get the messages.
We are pushing hard, uh to get the messages out.
and and Ada, uh respect and so when these when these are
reported to us, yeah, um, you know, we when our operations
folks are in the field.
folks are in the field and they see an issue they will
report it and then when it's reported to us, we will
respond in that 2-hour SLA.
respond in that 2-hour SLA, which I think it's important to
recognize. Uh, that 2-hour SLA is met by both companies. I
think we're we're somewhere in the 99% uh range when
there's an issue reported we get out and
there's an issue reported. We get out and retrieve that and
then uh, if it is blocking a ramp or parked improperly we
will uh introduce them into that escalating structure.
Sounds good. Thank you Sharon. Thank you all for your
answers. I think the takeaway for you guys from this.
meeting is that we're very concerned about.
meeting is that we're very concerned about the safety and
the sidewalk. That's a
the sidewalk that's a big issue for us in the war. Okay. We
have a few more.
have a few more all our people with questions, and I also
wanted to recognize. I'll remember Bernett who just joined
us. Um alderwoman hop.
Oh, thank you chair good.
Oh, thank you chair. Good morning. Thanks for this
presentation. Thanks for being here. And um many of my
questions were asked by.
questions were asked by colleagues, especially regarding
Public Safety.
Public Safety on our sidewalks. Um, I'm in
The 48th Ward which is mostly Edge.
the 48th Ward, which is mostly Edgewater.
but also parts of Uptown including
But also parts of Uptown included including Asia and Argyll
and Andersonville.
and um my ward Trends older
and um, my ward Trends older adults
we also have a lot of
business corridors small
Business corridors small business corridors, so I'm really
glad to know that you've expanded.
glad to know that you've expanded the hours to accommodate
those workers that work.
those workers that work really late at night.
And I live right on.
and I live right on Clark Street in Andersonville, and then
you know since the pandemic I've seen such an increase in
use of um, scooters and bikes and um,
but I've also
But I've also seen.
too many accidents
um and drivers
you know, I think that we we have to really talk about our
infrastructure and uh, this makes a case for more
protected.
Lanes on our streets.
I
also have shared enrolled and so we have so many older
adults that walk.
adults that walk that sidewalk and really most of the calls
that come from that road.
that come from that road are older adults who are
complaining about not feeling safe on the sidewalk.
And then we are also.
And then we are also the pathway to the lakefront.
So it I remembered this summer walking, you know.
gladly to the lakefront with 2
Gladly to the lakefront with 2 young kids, but not knowing.
where to step on the path.
And I I just won't I want to hear?
and I I just won't I want to hear and actually I'm really
glad that we're having this conversation.
glad that we're having this conversation because I want to
know I want to know how to incentivize people.
know I want to know how to incentivize people to leave
their cars behind and to either walk or roll to wherever
they're going these.
they're going these public transit where you know, the red
line goes through the ward and we have so many stops the
Metro the new 1 on Peterson is opening up too. We want
people to walk. We're very pedestrian-friendly Ward, so
when you're talking about
you're talking about Equity, we also have a very diverse
Ward, you know,
diverse Ward, you know across race and class and everything
so
everything. So, um, I'm interested in the study that you
did. Um, if you could share in fact, do you remember
neighborhoods you did that study in?
I don't know. You could just state your name again. Yeah.
John Langford from spin. Um it I don't have the exact
words. Um, it was uh, I think Lincoln Park Southside and
then uh, or west side and then uh several warts,
south side, but it actually each of the areas covered.
The writing Behavior, so it wasn't Ward.
The writing Behavior, so it wasn't Ward uh specific.
Yeah, we also have lie.
Yeah, we also have Loyola students, you know right there.
Um.
um on the lakefront and they're just so so many reasons to
leave your car at home, you know to walk our lovely, um
sidewalks and so I just wanted to affirm that that I I'm
glad that we're talking about data.
and I I feel like we would like to do our part to
And I I feel like we would like to do our part to
incentivize people to use.
incentivize people to use something other than their cars
to get to and from where they need to go whether it's
school or work or Recreation to the lakefront. What have
you um, and I'm glad that we're talking about how we're
going to
educate our young people we have so many young people who
are using actually I've I've I worry about parents who have
their young people like on the scooters, too.
their young people like on the scooters too. You know, I'm
a parent and I um, I'm just looking to you to figure out
ways.
ways that we can help incentivize people.
ways that we can help incentivize people to use. So is
there something at the top of your minds today? Um,
especially
Just thinking about where?
Just thinking about where we sit because we get those
complaints.
complaints and I would like to know what to tell them.
So for me, the the answer here is INF.
so for me, the the answer here is infrastructure, the the
infrastructure on the street is what's going to get folks.
Um.
Folk
folks riding and walk or biking scoot
Folks riding and walk or biking scooting where they're
supposed to be. Um, we are we are pushing to educate Riders
as much as we can and we are pushing the technology out on
the vehicle's. Um, and we think those are are 2 really
critical components. Um, and and we see when the when the
infrastructure is there folks will folks will take
advantage of it. Um, I I think the other piece like I
mentioned we saw this this decline, um in sidewalk riding
in particular over.
in particular over time, and I think it's it's so easy to
to lose sight of just how new this technology is.
to lose sight of just how new this technology is, um,
because we've been talking about it for what feels like a
long time.
long time but folks the learning curve there is starting to
set in and folks are starting to understand.
set in and folks are starting to understand after receiving
messages multiple times after receiving the penalties, um
that you know scooters do not go on the sidewalks. They go
in the bike lane. Um, or they go
in the bike lane, um, or they go in the street and you ride
them just like a bicycle.
Yeah, I I appreciate that, but it's not fast enough, you
know people.
know people are calling us and they want us to call the
people are calling us and they want us to call the cops,
you know, and people riding on the sidewalk and that's
you know and people riding on the sidewalk and that's
that's not going to happen. You know, we need to figure out
ways to regulate and also to educate people. Um, so that
every like what is it that we need?
every like, what is it that we need more signs. I think
it's infrastructure. Um,
it's infrastructure. Um it and also not just um in the
neighborhoods but um in the Parks too along the lakefront,
Can are you um working with?
Can are you um working with parks at all? So the we're not
allowed to operate.
allowed to operate on on the lakefront Scooters or
prohibited from operating on the lakefront, uh currently,
um what I will say about
um, what I will say about not going fast enough, um,
I I agree with you. I'm I'm here as a Safe Streets Advocate
a former.
a former member of active Transportation Alliance. Um and
what I can say is following that industry.
what I can say is following that industry consolidation,
there are 2 companies serving the city of Chicago.
there are 2 companies serving the city of Chicago Lee and I
are both eager. Um
are both eager, um to sit down in the 48th Ward and figure
out what is the hyperlocal strategy to address the concerns
of residents. We want to sit in a room with the folks who
are concerned. We want like in many cases. You're going to
know the soul.
know the solutions better than we are. We're both
Chicagoans.
ones but um your residents your constituents are going to
know the issues the problem.
know the issues the problem areas better than we will we
want to sit in the rooms and develop the hyperlocal
strategies with you. Um, and then go out and implement the
technology in the Rider Education.
technology in the Rider Education to help so like 1
specific.
Concrete example we could give you.
if there is a part of uh, if there is a specific street
that is seen, you know scooters going too fast.
We can Implement a slow ride Zone on.
We can Implement a slow ride Zone on that specific Street.
Um, and then we can you know, uh communicate that out to
folks, um, and it'll happen.
folks um, and it'll happen automatically, but that's the
kind of hyperlocal work. Uh, we want to we want to do with
you in the same would be um, you know for specific parking
locations,
locations or deployment locations. We'll work with you on
that block by block.
that block by block basis.
Yeah, I appreciate that. And uh
I think that you could be, you know, great.
I think that you could be, you know, great leaders in terms
of as you as you.
of as you as you say. It's got to be a holistic, uh view
it's not
It's not just scooters. It's bikes also it's you know,
whatever.
whatever those things are called that don't have any
handlebars are those scoot.
handlebars are those scooters, too. Yeah. Um and um,
We just want we want people.
We just want we want people to use something other than a
car. Um.
car. Um, so we want to be good partners, but we want to be
able to relate that to our constituent.
able to relate that to our constituents. Um, and also we
want you to be lead.
want you to be leaders in this, uh, data driven, um moment,
right?
right now. Absolutely. Okay, I I do you mind alderwoman if
we move on and we could have a side conversation about that
later. Thank you. I wanted to recognize Alderman Mosley.
Did you have a question also or you just want to be
recognized?
You have a question. Okay, go ahead.
Want to First just start by thanking the department great
leadership.
leadership as always, uh and really bringing Chicago.
leadership as always, uh, and really bringing Chicago to
uh, the the standards or the National Standard here.
the the standards or the National Standard here, um excited
about this.
about this, um want to see more collaboration particularly.
particularly 21st War along to 2 other Wars in Chicago.
21st War along to 2 other Wars in Chicago, uh is home to
the major Taylor Trail,
the major Taylor Trail and so things like that of how we
can utilize scooters bikes to get folks more active. Um,
especially until the red line.
especially until the red line extension comes. There are a
lot of folks who uh have started to turn to this means of
try
transportation, uh to connect to the red line. Um, so that
education piece is great would offer up a partnership with
major tale major tailored.
major tale Major Taylor Trail Keepers and so forth, uh to
expand that and we do have some of that infrastructure
protected.
protected bike Lanes in the 21st Ward. We are not seeing
overly used and so anything that we can do to
that uh, so that that value is there is apprec.
It thank you madam chair.
Thank you.
And Alderman more. Did you have another question? Yes, if
you and thank you so much chairman for giving me a
opportunity only um because I just got a text from my
office and thank you all for getting me that information.
and you reported out the 28 accidents per 100,000 if that's
the number you said if I wrote it down, right?
Go ahead. That was in 20.
Go ahead that was in 2020. That's correct in 20, uh, and
the current program. It's it went down to 14 right and I
just wanted to point out.
just wanted to point out and and your
and I guess everybody can do.
and I guess everybody can do the calculation, but the fact
that in your report, um to me and I report appreciate it
that in 2020. Um
Is good is a recorded in 2020 party to?
Is good is a recorded in 2020 part of the total 1 problem
emergency. Um
171 and 20 20 I believe and 192 and 2019.
171 and 20 20 I believe and 192 and 2019 which yes, you
showed a a reduction and when we use percentages sometimes
and things like that, but once 171 and 192, I just want to
I know.
I know people pushed on it, but those numbers are.
somewhat disturbing and alarming to me in a year's time and
And so, um just to point out. I just want to point that out
so
out. So when we're talking about, you know 28 per this and
per that 171.192. That's huge when you hear numbers like
that and then that other part and I'm glad you stated about
slow zones.
slow zones, um, because
Who are ultimate wages back was talking about?
happened to you? I use I literally had to pull over.
and catch
And catch myself because I literally almost wiped the guy
out at night.
out at night in dark.
clothing and everything
Clothing and everything. He just flew through the red
light.
at a high speed and I literally had to just stop and
gather.
myself because it was like I could have killed him.
And so that's going to be very critical as I just on the
person. It's when somebody had if I didn't even hit the
person and I just felt so shook.
person and I just felt so shook if something like that
happened somebody that has to deal with that.
happened somebody that has to deal with that in the in the
mental strain on anybody that end.
mental strain on anybody that end up hitting someone on a
scooter. It's it's going to be traumatic for them. So I
just want us to make sure that we really go back look at
things. Um, I don't know. What other
things. Um, I don't know what other Technologies out there.
I don't know if something can detect red.
I don't know if something can detect red lights out there
on the scooters. Somebody can create it make money fine. I
don't know to slow that down but
don't know to slow that down, but that is a it's it's it's
a issue. So, thank you.
issue. So thank you chairman for giving me an opportunity
to just state that
thank you. Are there any other questions?
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Who's saying? Yes.
Thank you. Uh, thank you colleagues for allowing me to
part.
participate remotely. Um, I just had a 2 questions.
participate remotely. Um, I just had a 2 questions 1 1
around mwbe part.
around mwbe participation. Can you talk a little bit about
that? Um are there
that? Um, are there any mwbe goals with these contracts?
Thanks for the question.
Thanks for the question Alderman again Max, but Deputy
Commissioner at bacp. Um, the program does require that the
companies, um higher locally and do their make their best
efforts to uh higher.
efforts to uh, hire a diversified Workforce from the city
of Chicago. Um, and so that is baked into the program. Yes.
Thank you, and then my second question.
Thank you. And then my second question, um along with these
maintenance of scooters, is that being done in?
maintenance of scooters. Is that being done in-house or is
that being outsourced? Uh, and is there any efforts to
collaborate with some organiz?
collaborate with some organizations that are exposing the
youth to these types of micro-mobility, uh repair opt?
youth to these types of micro-mobility, uh repair options?
You want to get that?
State your name.
State your name perfectly Foley, uh senior director of
government relations for Lyme.
government relations for lime. Uh, thank you so much for
your question. Ottoman V, I guess. Uh, yes, uh,
your question. Ottoman V. I guess uh, yes, uh to your point
on, uh, hiring uh, we hire
on, uh, hiring, uh, we hire locally, uh, in fact all but 1
of our team.
of our team members lives within the city of Chicago, uh,
and we've been able to hire additional vehicle, uh
additional
People are for our team because we've launched the earliest
that we ever have.
that we ever have before. Uh, and we've also developed a
number of Partnerships.
number of Partnerships, uh with local organizations.
Equatic is 1
is 1 uh, where they have an ebike repair program, uh where
we've been able to donate uh ebikes to them for their
program.
program and we're always eager to hire. Um, especially from
within the community, um, and would love for any recommend
recommendations that you all have for us to be able to
connect with and partner, uh as
connect with and partner, uh, as we uh deepen our
relationships here in the city.
Thank you. Uh, thank you. Thank you for that response and I
am a
am uh, uh proud to support this ordinance a fan of Michael
Mobility with
mobility within the city. So thank you for for your
response. Looking forward to working with you guys.
Thank you all.
Thank you all um, can I get a motion to pass? I'll run
Martin.
all in favor say I
any oppose
in the opinion of the chairs the eyes have it the motion is
is passed.
Thank you.
We are going to move along.
We are going to move along to the next item on the agenda,
which is 02024.
which is 02024 D 0000084 zero zero.
substitute ordinance to amend chapter 9 of the
Substitute ordinance to amend chapter 9 of the municipal
code of Chicago regarding Petty.
code of Chicago regarding Petty cab licensed decal
requirements. Um,
We actually have a sub.
We actually have a substitute ordinance. So
um Alderman Reilly moves to adopt all in favor. Say I I
opposed.
opposed the opinion of the chair is the eyes have it the
substitute Orden.
substitute ordinance is above us as before us and the chair
recognizes.
recognizes Alderman Reilly. Thank you madam chair.
recognizes Alderman Reilly. Thank you madam. Chairman. Uh,
this is a pretty straightforward ordinance as was mentioned
at impacts, uh pett
at impacts, uh, Petty cab, uh lensure. Um,
at impacts, uh, Petty cab, uh lensure, um, and very
specifically, uh, what it does. Is it standard?
requirements for displaying city is
requirements for displaying city-issued decals? Um, not
just where they belong on the license plate but also to
ensure that the license plate and decal are visible.
um to the public and certainly to Regulators what we found
is that and this is not unique to Chicago.
but this particular industry has uh adopted a
But this particular industry has uh adopted a practice of
while they know they need to display a license.
while they know they need to display a license plate and a
tag. They are obscuring The View.
tag they are obscuring the view of those things by using
spare tires or post.
spare tires or posters or advertisements or clothing.
spare tires or posters or advertisements or clothing so
that it makes it virtually impossible for anyone to
complain against their uh illegal behaviors.
complain against their uh, illegal behaviors and so
obviously in order to enforce an ordinance.
obviously in order to enforce an ordinance, uh, we need to
be able to visibly see the
plate and decal just as we require for a an
Plate and decal just as we require for a an automotive
vehicle and other vehicles in the city. And so um, this
will
hopefully end this practice. I don't want to see any fines
assessed. I think the industry just needs to shape up.
assessed. I think the industry just needs to shape up other
municipalities around the country require this as well.
municipalities around the country require this as well and
it's been taken advantage of here. Uh this also,
it's been taken advantage of here. Uh, this also increases
the fines for this particular activity from 5.
the fines for this particular activity from 500 to 1,000 to
1,000 to 5000. I believe that'll serve as a adequate
deterrent to this Behavior.
And it also grants broader discretion.
And it also grants broader discretion to the city to impede
to impound Petty cab.
to impound Petty cabs that are frequent violators of
ordinance. Um, so the substitute before us is 1 that was um
negotiated with B.
negotiated with bacp. It's my understanding that they
support the substitute. Um, my ward is 1 of 4 or 5.
support the substitute. Um, my ward is 1 of 4 or 5 that is
disproportionately impacted by uh,
is disproportionately impacted by uh, Petty cabs and many
of the petty cat Petty cab operators.
of the petty cat Petty cab operators operate in an ethical.
and and law-abiding way, but like any industry
and and law-abiding way. But like any industry there are a
number of Bad actors and sadly many of them operate in the
central business district, so,
central business district. So the hope is with passage of
this ordinance little service.
this ordinance. It will serve as a good deterrent Tool, uh
to make sure that these foal
to make sure that these folks are properly displaying their
licenses and tags, so
licenses and tags so that if a consumer, uh a member,
the public or a city officer,
Um is able to see them and make a complaint.
Um is able to see them and make a complaint or issue a
citation be happy to answer any questions.
Are there any questions from committee?
Alan Martin mauve
Alan Martin moves to pass all in favor say I I any opposed
have the chair the eyes pass.
have the chair the eyes pass it motion is passed. Thank you
madam. Chairman
I think we are waiting for our aldermen.
Oley and con
Oley and Conway so we are going to
Um, we're holding.
um, we're holding Alderman Vasquez item number 6 and we'll
move on then to alderwoman Mana.
move on then to alderwoman Mana hoppenworth.
Um she has
Um, she has 2
Uh ordinances before the committee.
uh ordinances before the committee 02024 Dash 00
uh ordinances before the committee 02024 d 00000 08227
Ordnance to amend the municipal code of Chicago lifting
sub.
subsection 4-6-2
subsection. 4-6-22 parenthesis 48.24
subsection 4-6-22 parenthesis, 48.24 to allow additional
alcoholic liquor license on a portion of Clark Street.
Um, do you want to talk about that 1 first Alder woman?
Sure. Thank you chair. This is a um on Clark Street. This
is Bram.
is Bramble theater.
And they are in.
And they are in good standing with the neighborhood. They
actually live in the ward. Um, we have talked to them about
how they're going to be.
how they're going to be great Partners to the neighborhood.
They're welcome by the Chamber of Commerce and the block
clubs and the school right around the corner and I asked
this, uh,
this committee for their favorable consideration to lift
the ban on the liquor moratorium move to pass. Thank you on
Riley moves all in favor. Say I I any opposed
and the opinion of the chairs the eyes have it moving on to
your second.
your second ordinance is 02024.
your second ordinance is 02024 0 08331 norn.
your second ordinance is 02024 0 08331 Nance Municipal Code
of Chicago Chicago lifting sub.
of Chicago Chicago lifting subsection 4-60
Dash 023 parenthesis 48.4 to allow the issuance of
additional package Goods license on a portion of a brinmar
Avenue.
alderwoman, man
Alderwoman mahapor. Thank you chair. This is the um
existing go ger on 54.
existing go ger on 5419 North Sheridan. They have a good
standing in the community. There have been very proactive
and providing letters of support from the chambers and also
CED
Cedar Pac. Uh, and um,
Cedar Pac, uh, and um, we would like favorable
consideration of this committee to
committee to um to allow the issuance of additional package
Goods,
any questions
Any questions, thank you pass Riley moves to pass.
Any questions, thank you pass Riley moves to pass all in
favor. Say I any opposed?
and the opinion of the chair is the eyes have it the motion
is
motion is passed. We're going to move back to item number.
4, which is 0202400 08388 an ordinance to amend the
municipal code of Chicago.
municipal code of Chicago lifting subsection 4-60
municipal code of Chicago lifting subsection. 4-6-0 022
parenthesis 21.
parenthesis, 21.122 to allow additional alcoholic liquor.
license on a portion of Hallstead Street. This is uh,
Alderman Mosley's Ward.
You want to step up?
Sorry, you have to wait.
Thank you madam.
Thank you. Madam. Chair madam.
Yes Madam chair.
Yes, Madam chair, uh, we're looking to lift this.
so that a family can really
So that a family can really start their succession
planning. They were looking to add another indiv.
planning. They were looking to add another individual to
the license and so not looking to uh,
uh, uh issue any new ones, but just again, uh help
the the integrity and struct
The the integrity and structure of this this business, uh to
continue on.
continue on for many years to come any questions.
Alderman OSHA moves you pass on favor. Say I the opinion
uh, any opposed
any opposed the opinion of the chair is the eyes have it.
The motion is passed. Thank you, and lastly we have
The motion is passed. Thank you. And lastly we have 02 024
d
024-0000 8329 an ordinance to the municipal code of Chicago
lifting subsection 4.
lifting subsection 4-60 023 parenthese.
lifting subsection. 4-60 023 parenthesis. 42.324 to allow
the issuance of additional package good license on a
portion of Wabash Avenue.
Are you speaking?
Are you speaking on missing? Yes I can. Um, okay, so we'll
be lifting this.
be lifting this for uh for Circle K. We have we have work
with them to ensure. This will be done in a way. That is
uh,
respectful and beneficial to the community. This is at the
corner of um, or right near Madison and Wabash. Uh, and
therefore I ask for the committee's favorable support do we
have
we have any questions I do on Riley. Thank you.
we have any questions? I do on Riley. Thank you chairman.
Um, as you know, this is formerly a 42nd Ward property. Um,
and we've certainly had um some instances where we've
lifted the moratorium to accommodate Circle K.
wanted to understand uh, whether or not um, single serving
sizes and uh minimum,
sizes and uh minimum milliliters, uh were were negotiated
with them.
with them in this case as we have done with them
throughout.
the 42nd Ward. Yeah, they
the 42nd Ward. Yeah they have but I'll I'll let Mr.
Speak further to that if you'd like.
Speak further to that if you'd like, if you could please
introduce yourself. Sure Madam chair.
introduce yourself. Sure Madam chair Thomas Reigns. I'm an
attorney I represent rdk V.
attorney. I represent rdk Ventures LLC, which is the parent
company of circle.
company of Circle K. And that would be the license. That is
the current l.
the current licensee at 2 North Wabash. They have a retail
food.
food license. They do not have a an alcohol.
food license. They do not have a an alcohol license of any
sort and they do not have a tobacco.
sort and they do not have a tobacco license and so 2
Alderman Riley's question. Um, we worked with Alderman con.
Conway's office. Um, and essentially he asked for the plans
of operation that were accepted by the 42nd Wards office
and we submitted 2 or 3 of those
and I believe it mirrors exactly in terms of Quant.
sizes Etc. I'm happy to forward that to Alderman Reilly in
his office. I'd appreciate that mad.
his office. I'd appreciate that Madam chair and and I'm
glad to hear that. Um, certainly, you know, the central
business district. We want to have consistency.
business district. We want to have consistency and not pit
1 property against the other we try to treat everyone
equally and and be fair about it. So I'm glad to hear that
my colleague and his staff were able to um, negotiate that
appropriately. So, thank you.
appropriately. So thank you madam chairman and I'll be
supporting the ordinance any other questions.
Alderman wax back moves to pass all in favor. Say I
any op
Any opposed and the opinion of the chairs the eyes have it
the motion is passed.
this concludes the agenda of the
This concludes the agenda of the committee on license. I
will report the votes as a recommendation to pass at the
city council on APR.
city council on April 17th 2024.
there being
There being no further business before the committee.
uh Vice chair Chico motions to adjourn
um hearing no objection, so
Um hearing no objection so ordered the meeting is
adjourned. Have a great rest of your day.
Thank you.