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if Chicago city council
City of Chicago City
the committee on immigr
The committee on immigrant and rep.
We will need you all.
We will need you all to at least listen, so we have the
hearing. If not, we will be asking.
hearing. If not, we will be asking folks to leave. We would
prefer that there is involvement.
and so going forward, uh, we're going to start the meeting
so
So the committee on immigrant and Refugee Rights will now
come to order.
today we have 1 item on the agenda, which is a vote on the
ordinance requiring reporting of shelter evictions. We will
begin with a roll call to establish.
begin with a roll call to establish Quorum. Uh, otherwise
alderwoman Gutierrez
Alderman Ken
Alder person, uh Rodriguez
Thank you.
Uh all the person Fuentes
I saw Fuentes earlier, okay.
alderman talifero
alderwoman Cruise
Alderman Cardona
alderman
alderwoman or the get Sanchez
uh Alderman Ramirez Rosa
Alder
alderwoman worth
alderwoman Haden
Vice chair Taylor
and chair Vasquez here
There are 10. Mehm.
There are 10 members present.
We have a quorum.
We have a quorum any non-members present.
No.
Uh Alder persons. Hadn't Taylor and Lee.
Uh Alder persons hadn't Taylor and Lee have requested a
virtual option for Committee hearing attend.
virtual option for Committee hearing attendance due to
extenuating circumstances in accordance with rule.
extenuating circumstances in accordance with rule 59 of the
city council Rules of Order and procedure and with
subsections a through D of section 7 of the open meetings
act. Can I get a motion to allow all the persons hadn't
Taylor and lie to attend the hearing virtually.
So moved by alderwoman Crews here. No objection.
So moved by alderwoman Crews here. No objection so ordered
at this time will we begin the public comment period
the period is limited to uh, 30 minutes out.
the period is limited to uh, 30 minutes out of respect for
everyone's Time Each speaker is limited to 3.
everyone's Time Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes, uh,
remote speakers will comment first followed by those in
person.
um as of 10
Um as of 10 a.m. On Wednesday, March 27th.
Um, as of 10 a.m. On Wednesday, March 27th, 2024, no caller
has requested to speak at the committee on immigrant and
Refugee Rights. So we will move on to in-person speakers.
the first
The first speaker is George, Blakemore.
immigrant
and refugees, right? Who are IMM?
and refugees right who are immigrants and what right do
they?
they have?
racism
and is it worth?
and is work that that chairman is right.
Right there.
He said 3 minutes.
He didn't say I'm taking.
He didn't say I'm taking away your medicine you.
He didn't say I'm taking away your medicine. You have 1
minute.
he said 3 minutes the last time I was
He said 3 minutes the last time I was here when he had all
these refugees.
these refugees and these Hispanic people he changed it. He
said we gonna now you gonna get 1 minute.
said we gonna now you gonna get 1 minute, but we had to
teach him how to treat us. He said 3 minutes.
Black folks you gotta teach these people.
Black folks you gotta teach these people how to treat you.
And I think he learned his lesson.
young man
You said 3 minutes?
And that's why I want.
And that's why I want you in court.
That's why.
That's why I'm gonna have a jury trial and I'm gonna call.
up everybody Mr. Starks.
up everybody Mr. Starks and all of y'all when y'all pulled
me out and arrested me like a, Georgia slave.
But evidently you'll slow down.
But evidently you're slow learner you're learning.
You said?
You say 3 n?
Why did you change?
Why did you change help me help?
Why did you change help me help me?
and the police
And the police dragging me out like a Georgia slave.
not doing that?
we
We have talked them how to treat us.
we have talked them how to treat us and we're going to
continue to teach all of
to teach all of y'all how to treat us when we go to the
poll we go.
poll we go to hot Republican.
We gonna teach you so you illegal.
We gonna teach you so you illegal immigrant are waking up
the sleeping time.
They're learning.
They're learning that the Democrat machine don't.
They're learning that the Democrat machine don't give a
about us.
Oh, oh about us. Oh for poor is over we gonna turn.
Oh, oh about us. Oh for poor is over. We gonna turn it red.
Yes, we are. All right now I got my sisters.
Yes, we are. All right. Now I got my sisters and brothers
up here. They gonna come up and and speak.
up here. They gonna come up and and speak to.
Uh, yes we gonna.
Uh, yes, we gonna teach y'all how to treat us.
If you don't know how you don't?
If you don't know how you don't call us in but you treat us
like that.
You know what that Aunt stand for I
You know what that Aunt stand for. I don't hear these
Mexican people white folks saying the in Word.
But they treat you like well when?
But they treat you like well when they give jobs goods and
contracts and service.
contracts and service to these illegal immigrants and what
do we get f h?
do we get f h i on and you can put the T there if you want
to but big.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Blakemore.
uh our next
Uh, our next speaker is uh Venus Yung bae.
uh
Um, maybe there's a process over here.
Um, maybe there's a process over here like Mr. Blakemore
and Zoe.
and Zoe and Miss Jackson can come here.
and Zoe and Miss Jackson can come here in 5 hours.
and
And I can call whatever they do.
so
So the mail is going to pick Miss Jackson and Zeo.
So the mail is going to pick Miss Jackson and Zoe.
after us
who's also just
same reason to go
So Mr. Blakemore, thank you for sharing.
So Mr. Blakemore, thank you for sharing your own things you
like.
Okay, Zoe.
Okay, Zoe you're up next.
I want to I want to thank and congratulate uh, Miss Venus.
for your first public comment and hopefully not your
Thank you so much for participating.
Thank you. All right.
that was that was
That was that was that was amazing. Uh, our next uh
commenter is uh, Miss Jessica Jackson.
come
Come on up.
I want to thank the media for being here this morning
because apparently that's the only way.
because apparently that's the only way that our voices to
be heard because I all demanded all the women.
be heard because I all demanded all the women don't want to
show up for work.
They don't want to hear.
They don't want to hear from the people. They don't want to
hear what we have to say. So they go and they cancel
meetings at the last minute. They don't show up. They come
by way of remotely and all this and that so I want to
appreciate the media but
appreciate the media for showing up and getting the word
out to the people because we got a real problem in Chicago
right now we got
right now. We got poor poor leadership. We got poor
leadership. We got a situation going on with a mayor.
Who won't be transparent?
Who won't be transparent about how the money is being spent
they say?
they say 300 million can't be found or accounted for we got
a immigrant and refugee.
chairperson who to my understanding
his first choice of profession was to want to be a rapper.
Now, I don't know I couldn't believe what I heard. I
thought maybe they were talking about like a candy wrapper
person or a rapper at JC Penney at Christmas.
person or a rapper at JC Penney at Christmas time.
I couldn't believe that he was really trying to be Luda.
I couldn't.
I couldn't believe it.
And then on top of that if that weren't.
And then on top of that if that weren't bad enough we get a
Carlos.
Carlos Rosa that comes to suppress the vote. So
a Carlos Rosa that comes to suppress the vote so that we
can't talk about Sanctuary cities and vote on.
can't talk about Sanctuary cities and vote on that and then
if that wasn't bad enough.
if that wasn't bad enough now, we got to Sergio Brian
Sergio Lopez.
Lopez who didn't set up him first up the flag and
participated in that and then on top of that.
Now when it's time to talk about it.
now when it's time to talk about it, you got to
very bright headed Michael Rodriguez that's walking in the
room.
room right now instead of setting himself down and being
respectful to the people.
It doesn't get any worse than this.
Then you got a Michelle.
Then you got a Michelle Harris.
Who's messing with the Reg?
Who's messing with the Regal Theater landmarks?
then you got
let me see you.
let me see. You got a mayor who sees that everything is
falling apart and his response to it. Is that
falling apart and his response to it is that he don't
Flinch and he's a gamer so
Flinch and he's a gamer. So he's gonna keep on playing till
he wins it.
he wins. It doesn't get much worse than this so media, I
want to appreciate y'all for being here this morning, but
report.
reporting the news. Let's give a hand to the media.
That's how you do it. That's how you do it Channel.
That's how you do it. That's how you do it Channel 2.
That's how you do it ABC. That's how you do it Fox. That's
how you do it for us breaking.
how you do it for us. Breaking news. You bring the news.
That's how you do it and I want to give a shout out.
To Tyler Pharaoh. I want to give a shout out to kindly
I want to give a shout out to all the altar.
I want to give a shout out to all the ultimate that are
veterans that know how to stand for the United States of
America. Yeah, cuz we black out here and this is
country. Yeah.
Thank you. Thank you, Miss.
Thank you. Thank you, Miss Jackson.
I say you got.
I say you got a you got a career in battle rap, too. I I
respect it. Thank you.
respect it. Thank you very much today.
I respect it. I respect it. Our next speaker is uh Zoe Lee.
Thank you Venus.
Why is Barren sit your Lopez had a committee on?
Why is Barren sit your Lopez had a committee on housing and
real estate and can't fulfill promises to address?
real estate and can't fulfill promises to address the
ongoing housing crisis in Chicago?
ongoing housing crisis in Chicago You're quick to quote
black activist Jim James Baldwin, but failed to acknowledge
the Injustice faced by Chicago black residents. Where is a
solidarity for black and brown communities?
solidarity for black and brown communities while you
advocate for causes miles away our neighborhood.
advocate for causes miles away. Our neighborhoods are under
attack instead of focus on on International conflicts prior
to priorit.
prioritize the con concerns of Chicago citizens. We need
action. It's 80,000 vacant units in Chicago people.
action. It's 80,000 vacant units in Chicago people can't
find help when they turn to their aldermen about housing
issues.
There's 1 right here that spoke they was.
There's 1 right here that spoke they was speaking earlier.
which
Which is absurd meanwhile, you're outside speaking about
injust.
injustices in another country in front of a chart American
flag while
American flag while 68,000 homeless people roam the streets
of Chicago yet.
of Chicago yet you remain silent.
in other corrupt migrant
In other corrupt migrant news while Andre Vasquez is running
the Chicago.
the Chicago in and streeterville the most expensive shelter
in the city. He's on NBC Chicago speaking out acting
clueless.
clueless when it's coming to the missing leasing
agreements, you know exactly what's going on.
speaking of leasing a lease agreement
Speaking of leasing a lease agreements and my federal
lawsuit against the city the city of Chicago.
lawsuit against the city the city of Chicago along with
Cook County aided by Alderman and private develop.
Cook County aided by Alderman and private developers
associated with the Democratic Party.
associated with the Democratic party have engaged in a
pattern of seasoned properties from black communities
through illegal means such as eminent domain property.
fraud Probate Court actions and a lawful evictions.
fraud Probate Court actions and a lawful evictions via
foreclosures if you believe you've been affected by any of
these practices, please reach out at 4047.
these practices, please reach out at 404-796-6764 the power
of the black voice and dollar speaks volumes, and we will
not continue.
not continue to be silent in the most corrupt city on the
planet. The Democratic party in Chicago is a joke, and it's
not funny anymore. Hashtag protect black hous
Chicago. I really advise y'all to figure out
money is for the Southside communities starting with
invest Southwest and if you think that this city
to be run by some Progressive socialists democr
Alderman with the help of
Administration. This state will flip red.
Stop playing with us America needs some order.
woman's History Month.
Thank you very much. Obviously our next speaker.
Thank you very much. Obviously, our next speaker is Mrs.
Yalila.
morning, I am a
Morning, I am a mother lover of Education in Chicago
residents. We are a nation of laws. Not of men.
residents. We are a nation of laws. Not of men John Adams
second president silence in the face of evil is evil
itself. God will not hold.
itself. God will not hold us Guiltless not to speak is to
speak not to act is to act pastor.
speak not to act is to act Pastor dctor bone hover.
He stood up to Hitler. We the people are the rightful
masters of Cong.
masters of Congress and the courts not to overthrow the
Constitution.
Constitution but to overthrow men who prevent and
the Constitution President Abraham Lincoln.
the Constitution President Abraham Lincoln Thou shalt not
steal. That's from the eighth commandment behave in other
people's homes, or you'll never be invited again. That's
mother. So now I want to recognize a true.
mother. So now I want to recognize a true woman and women
History Month by mother.
History Month by mother 83 year old Maria also a Chicago
resident. She's my rock inspiration and encouragement. We
arrived legally to the United States.
arrived legally to the United States in 1979, and we made
this country.
this country our home.
We are probably.
we are probably US citizens now my mom taught us moral
values to respect our new home respect the police respect.
the flag work hard. Obey the laws honor.
the flag work hard. Obey the laws honor the US Constitution
and stand up for our rights no matter what.
Thank you, Mom. Gracias, Mommy. It's this.
Thank you, Mom. Gracias, Mommy. It's this it's despicable.
How what my mom taught me is the complete.
How what my mom taught me is the complete opposite of what
is being taught in Chicago.
is being taught in Chicago in the US.
We are living in times where?
We are living in times where the safety acts practically
says if you commit a crime you do no time and still get.
rewarded.
Patriot Americans, please. Continue
Patriot Americans, please continue to stand up for our
country our state and our city. We will push back against
traders who seek to destroy.
traders who seek to destroy this country.
old America out
Old America out and forgot our vets who sacrificed this
country.
Biden and the Democratic party what?
Biden and the Democratic party what country made the top 10
list
where American citizens are not welcome.
Where American citizens are not welcome, Venezuela?
Who says?
Who says something is evil here? We got all these.
Who says something is evil here? We got all these black
faces and Hispanic Faces, by the way.
faces and Hispanic Faces by the way in high places and you
get nothing Mr. Blakemore.
What man won't change the sanctuary City?
What man won't change the sanctuary City through executive
order Brandon?
order Brandon Johnson, which other man wants illegal?
legal migrants to get the same rights?
legal migrants to get the same rights Andre Vasquez whoop
legal migrants to get the same rights Andre Vasquez What
policies failed and told the Gage Park Community?
policies failed and told the Gage Park Community 3 months
ago that they are not here to commit.
ago that they are not here to commit crimes Mrs. Pain.
boy. Was she mistaken who gets away with brake?
boy, was she mistaken who gets away with breaking any law
and gets free money.
The illegals which amendment give us the freedom.
the illegals which amendment give us the freedom of speech
First Amendment which amendment will we need for the
invasion?
second every elected official needs
Second every elected official needs to go back to 7 and 8th
grade.
grade for a refresher on the US Constitution.
grade for a refresher on the US Constitution 1 million.
Thank you. Miss m your time is up.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
our
Our next speaker is Lauren Jones.
Good.
Good morning.
I came here today to speak to the Mets.
I came here today to speak to the mayor and the deputy.
Good morning guys. Oh wait, you guys are?
Good morning guys. Oh wait, you guys are not here? Um,
So it sees that this may not be so important for the rest
of us.
of us, but for me, it's very important as we live in the
land of laws.
where we respect each other
and as such I see that uh when the immigrants have come
here.
here they parking on the street with uh,
here, they parking on the street with uh, the problem is
that they all have cars and they all got money to buy cars
where they're not working. I don't know where they get the
cars.
cars from but this is the problem see because the neighbors
complained about it they signed
complained about it. They signed a petition so that they
could get permit parking.
could get permit parking on the street and
Now we are paying for the permit parking. We still don't get
the park and the spaces that we pay for because they are
taking the spaces every single day.
taking the spaces every single day we call and for some
reason they don't put tickets on the cars and then when I
have called and spoken to some of the police officers they
tell me well we can't give them.
tell me well we can't give them tickets because they don't
have a do that they can send a ticket to that they have to
pay.
so with these laws
So with these laws, you know, the police are here to Serve
and Protect.
and Protect yet. I have video of several.
and Protect yet. I have video of several incidents where
people are doing drugs in the park. But I I mean I know
marijuana is legal, but
marijuana is legal but to be doing it in the public park.
across the street from a school.
2 schools as a matter of fact there's
This is unacceptable that drinking in the park now.
This is unacceptable that drinking in the park. Now. My
neighbor came by 1 day. He was helping me with something we
We had a conversation. He was drinking a beer.
And a cop Roll by the alleyway they arrested.
And a cop Roll by the alleyway. They arrested him they gave
him a ticket for public, uh drink.
him a ticket for public, uh drinking in public and I'm like
what he was just right there. We were kind of on our
property line. He just came over to help me.
property line. He just came over to help me with something,
you know.
I have other friends.
I have other friends that I grew up since I've been in the
teenager that I've lived.
teenager that I've lived in Hispanic neighborhoods and my
friends came over from Mexico.
You know, I taught them how to speak English. They taught
me how to speak Spanish.
me how to speak Spanish and so
here
Here it is. Almost 40 years later my friend 1 of my
friends.
friends is still an illegal immigrant where he has not been
able to get any paperwork to to do anything.
able to get any paperwork to to do anything and these
people are coming here. They're getting money. They're
driving cars.
driving cars, you know.
driving cars, you know, if you you steal somebody's mail. I
I thought in my mind.
I thought in my mind that if you mess with the the federal
as a federal offense, it's a felony and I have
of several people stealing my packages and
Of several people stealing my packages and I called the
police or I had to call it 5 or 6 timeslot.
You know, I'm fed up. I'm sorry these laws these these.
You know, I'm fed up. I'm sorry these laws these these uh
radical laws.
They I'm sorry. I'm out of time. But thank you so much. No.
Thank you.
uh our
Uh, our next speaker is Ariana abon.
I'd like to start off with something Edward.
I'd like to start off with something Edward Snowden. It was
a blower once said
he said when exposing a crime is treated as committing a
crime you are being ruled by Criminal.
crime you are being ruled by criminals.
everyone in this room recognizes
Everyone in this room recognizes that what's happening
surrounding the non-stop influx of ill.
surrounding the non-stop influx of illegal aliens is
Criminal.
Everyone Rec.
everyone recognizes that something evil is Among Us and
Everyone recognizes that something evil is Among Us and
Americans are not ready for the fundamental impacts. This
will have
in fact, we can't even fathom it because we
In fact, we can't even fathom it because we've never seen
anything like this.
We have an Administration that is run by criminals.
We have an Administration that is run by criminals who hate
America.
That is why they protect these criminals.
police have been instructed
Police have been instructed from above to not mess with
them. So no matter what.
them. So no matter what these criminal aliens do. They're
always released. It's not an accident. This is by Design.
And we have a garbage media that gets paid for.
And we have a garbage media that gets paid for lousy
coverage. We have immediate that protects.
coverage. We have immediate that protects criminals it
seems as if every level of government.
seems as if every level of government has been bought out.
It really makes you wonder.
It really makes you wonder how many seats in government have
been bought out by foreign influ.
been bought out by foreign influence.
And we have a government that uses.
And we have a government that uses language to weaponize
the masses.
They're not.
They're not illegal aliens. They're Asylum Seekers. They're
refugees.
and they throw these terms around so that the people of
America feel guilty because nobody wants to be a bad
person. We all aim to be good.
But there's a distinction.
But there's a distinction between goodness and tolerance.
there's
There's a difference between goodness and naiveness.
And unfortunately, I believe the majority of Americans are
not acting out of a spirit of goodness, but rather out of a
spirit of cowardliness and naiveness.
And we have the committee.
and we have the committee on immigrant and Refugee Rights
headed by anti-American Alderman Andre Vasquez.
Again, they really throw.
again, they really throw around those friendly terms, but I
like to call them what they are the procrit the ant
like to call them what they are the procrit the
anti-American committee.
They are here.
They are here not for people but to destroy America.
These groups are enemies of America how
These groups are enemies of America. How many illegals are
you housing in your home vasque?
Did you learn them so much. How come in your own home use?
Did you learn them so much. How come in your own home? Use
your own money to fund them?
Do I have a message to my fellow Americans who will watch
this on TV?
this on TV or YouTube whose side are you on are?
this on TV or YouTube whose side are you on are you on the
side of criminals? Are you on the side of this country?
that feeling like you're a bad person for
That feeling like you're a bad person for calling them
illegals. Stop letting our enemies.
illegals. Stop letting our enemies Gaslight us into
believing we are racist or anti.
believing we are racist or anti-immigrant.
You want to be a good person?
You want to be a good person a good person isn't a coward a
good person stands up for.
good person stands up for their neighbor and they stand up
for their country. I'll finish with my favorite Martin
Luther King Junior.
Luther King Jr. Quote and I hope my fellow Americans
Ponder. This he once
this he once said the question is not whether we will be
extremist.
extremists. But what kind of extremists we will be the n
nation and the world are in dire need of creative
extremist.
Thank you very much.
Uh, our next speaker is Ty.
Uh, our next speaker is Taiwan Sims.
All right. Bye.
followed by
Followed by Michael Bay young. Uh, Yung bae.
Good morning committee. Good morning.
I'm in agreement with all of y'all.
I'm in.
I'm in agreement truth. And if they feel like you ain't the
American then maybe you it's time to really take a look at.
this Vasquez. I know you
I I see you as a good man. However accountability.
I I see you as a good man. However, accountability is what I
stand on.
and for the last month
And for the last month, let's let's just put in the account
the last 120.
the last 120 days that I have suffered still home.
countless Sr numbers but I watch
Countless Sr numbers but I watch individuals who came who
who have come from.
thousands of miles away get preferential
Thousands of miles away get preferential treatment.
Whereas I'm 43 years.
Whereas I'm 43 years old. I live in this. Um, um.
would you say that that's been your um me as um,
would you say that that's been your um me as um Tsukasa.
This is my home.
Chicago, this is my home on 43 years. This is my home. This
is our home.
However, we've been pushed to the wayside. It seems by Lex.
so I can see them screaming down your necks.
so I can see them screaming down your necks look and it's
heavy ain't it? It's hard to the the reality of having this
many individuals come out.
many individuals come out and share with y'all the
hardships that they going through and have been going
through.
so kudos to
So kudos to the media.
Thank y'all.
Thank y'all however in the in the in a place where you want
to say something nice.
want to say something. Nice about Brandon Johnson. You're
not here today.
not here today in a place where you want to say something
about the election or you want to say something about the
people who have chosen to just disre.
people who have chosen to just disregard the American
citizens of Chicago the residents.
citizens of Chicago the residents who pay tax to stand this
man said,
this man said the illegals got cars and they do I watched
them ride through.
them ride through 100, uh in the far south side without
license without insurance. However, I now
Have licensed insurance. I know no I don't have a license
because it's been taken from me my insurance. I can't cover
because I don't have a job.
And if you don't have a base.
And if you don't have a base to to to basically set
yourself up like a home or housing.
yourself up like a home or housing, then you set to the
Wayside. These are all real.
Wayside. These are all realities that citizens here in
this. Um, Chicago was suffering under well basically the
country so I want to say the country.
That's what we suffering right now. This is the
That's what we suffering right. Now. This is the reality of
us. Um, the reality this young woman is the reality Blake
Moore, um, Jessica all of us.
Moore. Um, Jessica all of us gave Park residents all of us
this man here with his wife.
So if you going to in the Second Amendment says guns y'all
considering giving illegal people. We don't even know
anything about.
anything about guns.
I can't even carry a gun and I've been shot 5 times. I you
know what? I'm going to have to go through.
know what I'm going to have to go through so much paperwork
and y'all gonna be like no we can't get that black man. No
gun, however, y'all done said we gonna get these people.
guns. Where do we stand to protect ourselves? Even y'all
look. What is this? This is a removal order.
look? What is this? This is a removal order of American
citizens while y'all move a whole new. Um,
citizens while y'all move a whole new, um people into the
city what is going on? Honestly, what is going on? The
reality of us is if we continue to allow this to go on then
we will be dis.
we will be displaced not only this place raped murdered.
pillaged. This is the reality without Gates a city Without
Walls has no defense and we got no walls. We got no walls
in our legs no walls. So on the second
Thank you Mr. Sims.
Our next uh speaker is uh, Mr. Michael Young bae.
Man, man, man. Y'all know my background.
It's hard to get up here. And that's why I be.
It's hard to get up here. And that's why I be hesitating on
things Etc.
things Etc misplacement of words Etc. Because uh the
nonsense that us As Americans are experiencing.
Oh Glory
we got all the
We got a alderman.
making a speech
in front of a flag that has been burnt.
and some of you lat
And some of you Latino aldermen saying well, he got the
freedom of speech. Everybody got the freedom of speech.
but
But it's also what you saying in that freedom.
And then they say it's a veteran that did.
And then they say it's a veteran that did that. Well, he
need to be locked up in charge for treason.
that all the men should not
Lopez he should not even not just be on the board. He
shouldn't even be a alderman.
He shouldn't be on Alderman stop.
He shouldn't be on Alderman. Stop playing with the words on
people. He need to be.
people. He need to be removed.
You see because I was attacked by all the whole fast. I was
attacked.
attacked by all them.
in my fast
you see and expect.
you see and expect and that's right and and the mayor come
out and make a
out and make her speak on that, but he has yet to speak.
that.
low lives standing in front of
Low lives standing in front of that flag.
talking about he ain't
Talking about he ain't see it. You can see Oh Glory still
down there.
You can still see the red right in.
see people may not have
See people may not have no allegiance to this country
because they ain't experienced.
because they ain't experienced nothing as all people have
because I guarantee you this.
I Gwar
I guarantee you this.
It's some good old boys.
It's some good old boys down south with hanging them like
that hanging.
that hanging up when we ain't have no rights.
The thing got no right there illegal.
If they would get home if they was getting.
If they would get home if they was getting chased down more
Down Beat Down.
down beat down about million dogs Etc.
Then they won't even be coming up over here.
We've been fighting for years and you disgrace this nation.
you
You disperse our flag. That's our flag. How
You disperse our flag. That's our flag how people died for
that flag.
Our people suffering right now with that.
Our people suffering right now with that flag.
How dare you disrespect it?
And I don't care about what death.
And I don't care about what death threats he got. I got no
empathy and I got no.
empathy and I got no sympathy for a full like that.
This respecting our veterans.
So we all coming up here in these meetings.
So we all coming up here in these meet y'all really not
supporting them. They all just doing it for the damn.
supporting them. They all just doing it for the damn show.
And forgive me.
May Allah.
May Allah forgive me because I ain't ask for forgiveness
for none of y'all.
Because a lot of y'all ain't right y'all devils.
the demon credit party
Thank you Mr. B.
our next uh speaker is
Our next uh speaker is Natasha Gray.
Good morning, and I really didn't know what I was going to
say up here. So I'm just going to freelance first of all
once again as repeated before uh,
once again as repeated before. Uh, this is you guys job,
please show up on time.
If I'm a second late.
3 times in a year, I'm fired. So and that's from CTA.
A company that's ran in this city, okay.
A company that's ran in this city. Okay, and uh on the
subject of uh, housing needs illegal immigrants I have to
witness.
witness all day long.
Telling people to get off.
Telling people to get off the train because we at the end
of the line.
of the line I have to get families off.
Elderly some I know personally throughout the years.
speaking to them veterans.
And then to know that you all are housing.
illegal immigrants who they themselves have not contributed
to this economy.
directly
Directly their parents and grandparents have not
contributed to this economy.
Directly to see you all.
Directly to see you all do for them to appoint a deputy
mayor.
mayor for them.
But just a few years ago when it came to our home list you
all just threw your hands up in the air and say that you
don't.
don't have the money or the resources for it.
I've never been homeless in my life. I've never had to stay
in a shelter.
and
And I'm thankful for that.
but that doesn't
But that doesn't mean that I don't.
empathize with I mean sympathize with those that have
I I have my own issues with America here as most Afric.
African-Americans do but as they stated.
African-Americans do but as they stated your fellow
Alderman burning that flag that right.
Alderman burning that flag that right there that right.
I think you supposed to be.
I think you're supposed to be in prison for that, aren't
you? Is it that some type of uh
Yeah, you know, how how how are you?
Yeah, you know, how how how are you all defending him?
I don't trust you. I don't trust anybody. That is that.
unpatriotic, but yet you have a government seat.
You don't need.
You don't need to serve in any public capacity if you are.
okay, even if you didn't do it yourself if you're okay.
With what he did?
He shouldn't even been standing.
he shouldn't even been standing out there with no
Palestinians, and I'm going to be real with you and I don't
have no type of uh, I don't feel sorry for filling out the
way I feel about that issue here.
Use your power and your voice to
use your power and your voice to uh
Carry out your duties here for the city of Chicago.
Carry out your duties here for the city of Chicago not for
what's happening overseas.
We don't want to hear it.
It might sound cruel.
It might sound cruel, but we really don't want to hear
about what's happening overseas and what?
about what's happening overseas and what they said about
CPD not being able to do anything. That's absolutely true
because I've had people assaulted robbed and everything on
my training. You know what there's only so much.
my training. You know what there's only so much that CPD DD
can do within their power.
can do within their power because the laws that you are
allowing to pass.
allowing to pass over the heads of the citizens.
Are going against us and you're giving privileges to
criminals now.
criminals now, not only do we have our uh home criminals.
that you're giving these privileges to now we got to deal
with the illegal immigrants.
with the illegal immigrants having these Privileges and
more.
Thank you very much.
uh, next speaker is Anthony Hut, uh followed by Our Last
speaker, uh, Sylvia,
speaker. Uh, Sylvia AKA bigil
So Anthony first then uh Sill.
Good.
Good morning.
I have a few.
I have a few words that I wrote.
But let's take a moment.
But let's take a moment of silence.
For all those who?
For all those who don't feel comfortable speaking.
to all
To all those who might not eloquently be able to present
themselves.
themselves our fallen soldiers near and abroad.
distinguished members of the legislative body committee on
immigrant and Refugee Rights I come before you today not as
a mere speaker, but as a vessel.
a mere speaker, but as a vessel for the voices that have
been silenced in the corridors.
been silenced in the corridors of power as Dr. Martin
Luther King Jr. ELO.
Luther King Jr. Eloquently proclaimed Injustice. Anywhere
is a threat.
is a threat to Justice everywhere.
these words
These words reverberate through the streets of Chicago.
where the marginalized and oppressed and the Forgotten cry
out for recognition and dignity.
in the heart
In the heart of the great City we see the Echoes of
Malcolm.
Malcolm X's unyielding call for self-determination.
Malcolm X's unyielding call for self-determination and
empowerment.
We witnessed the struggles of black.
We witnessed the struggles of black and brown communities
who bear the brunt of systemic.
who bear the brunt of systemic injustices and economic
disparities.
We see our veterans who have sacrificed so much for
nation left to fend for themselves in a society.
nation left to fend for themselves in a society that often
overlooks their needs.
Yet in the face of adversity. We also find the unwavering
love of Jesus Christ.
Who?
whose teachings compel us to advocate for the downtrodden
and to seek Justice for the oppressed?
It is with this.
It is with this love in our hearts that we demand change
not.
not tomorrow. Not next year, but now
Chicago's political body must undergo a profound
transformation 1 that recognized the inherent worth and
dignity of every individual regardless of their race,
ethnicity and background.
social and economically
we cannot turn.
we cannot turn a blind eye to the struggles of our
immigrants and refugee.
immigrants and Refugee brothers and sisters who seek
sanctuary and opportunity in our city. We cannot because
this is a saint
this is a sanctuary City.
However, I didn't interrupt you.
how
However, we must not and we must not and continue to.
the cries of those who are unjustly marginalized and
disenfranchised for I am 1.
disenfranchised for I am 1 who was born at Cook County
Hospital.
And lived in Robert Taylor. I still remember what it smells
like on the alev.
like on the elevators.
However, I'm a product of the projects.
But I am not the end of that.
But I am not the end of that for I am that I am.
the time
The time for Action is upon us. We must dismantle the
barriers that perpetrate in inequality and division we
must strive to create a city where every person has access.
to Quality education affordable housing and meaningful.
employment. We must stand in solidarity with our immig.
employment. We must stand in solidarity with our immigrant
and Refugee communities those who came the proper way.
offering them not just Refuge but a place to thrive and
Offering them not just Refuge but a place to thrive and
contribute to the vibrant city known.
contribute to the vibrant city known as Chicago.
Let us heed the call.
Let us heed the call of the voiceless for their cries are
not merely.
not merely and Dr. King said in the words of Dr. King. The
time is always.
time is always right now.
Thank you very much.
And our final speaker is Sylvia Saints Sylvia.
free
Hello everybody. I'm uh big S.
Hello everybody. I'm uh big sill they call me big sill
because they say I'm not little anymore because our voices
are big. That's why they call me big Sill.
are big. That's why they call me big sill because I called
the police on crimes against human.
the police on crimes against humanity back in 2019. I'm the
First Health
first healthcare worker and I said if God We Trust right
and God We Trust that's our constitutional right to free.
speech, right?
So they try to silence me back.
So they try to silence me back then. Okay, and I tried to
tell everybody.
tell everybody health care is evil. Don't call 911 because
they're going to kill everybody with.
they're going to kill everybody with the vaccines all
vaccines are evil. They have been killing all of our
children.
children and all these public schools now.
children and all these public schools. Now, Dr. Dave Simone
is being held hostage.
is being held hostage in Indianapolis, Indiana. Why because
he's been exposing all of the chemical.
he's been exposing all of the chemicals and all the
vaccines his girlfriend.
vaccines his girlfriend called uh for a mental, uh
evaluation.
evaluation on him, right? He's not crazy. Okay, so they're
holding him hostage we need to
holding him hostage. We need to tell everybody to call
this.
hospital and free, Dr. Dave.
I'll give you guys the phone number.
All right.
It's 317621.
It's 3176215080 Dr. B.
It's 3176215080 Dr. Bot supposedly is an expert in
Parkinson.
Parkinson's research. Okay, but Dr. Bot has been poisoned
as well with.
as well with the health care protocols, right? So he is.
as well with the health care protocols, right? So he is at
7165 clear.
7165 Clear Vista Way, Indianapolis.
he's been in the
He's been in the hospital 6 days. We need to get.
He's been in the hospital 6 days. We need to get him out.
They've been medicating him.
And they diagnosed him with PS.
And they diagnosed him with psychiatric disorder bravely
disabled.
disabled and manic disorganized.
The crisis therapist name is Jodie.
and the people that he has
And the people that he has on contact besides me.
And the people that he has on contact besides me is Greg
Tatum.
Uh, who's a friend of Bob Israel Sher?
Uh, who's a friend of Bob Israel Sheriff Mike fedro Bernie
moiraine.
Moreno and Bob Dole who is against dick.
Moreno and Bob Dole who is against dick Durban. I am going
to be sharing this globally.
to be sharing this globally on clubhouse because I've been
silenced censored.
silenced censored and I need everybody to share this
information.
information because I don't have social media and they
been trying to kill me, but guess what? I'm still alive.
God bless USA
Thank you very much. Um.
that thank you to all of
That thank you to all of our speakers today.
Uh, I would like to note that.
Uh, I would like to note that this committee received 2
written public comments. These written public comments have
been sent out to the committee members.
been sent out to the committee members via email.
Uh, they're uh being no more.
Uh, they're uh being no more speakers. The public comment
period is concluded.
period is concluded we will begin with routine matters of
the committee. I'd like to note for the record alderwoman
Gutierrez is here for quorum.
um Alder person Ram
Um Alder person Ramirez Rosa has requested virtual option
for Committee hearing attendance.
for Committee hearing attendance due to extenuating
circumstances in accordance with in.
circumstances in accordance with in accordance with rule 59
of the city council Rules of Order and proc.
of the city council Rules of Order and procedure and would
subsections a through D of section 7 of the open.
act. Can I get a motion to allow Alder person?
act. Can I get a motion to allow Alder person Ramirez Rosa,
uh to uh to allow him to attend, uh, the hearing virtually
so moved alderwoman Gutierrez
hearing no objections from the committee so ordered
for clarity, uh
Okay.
message
Message received thank you. Uh, okay.
uh
our first item is the approval of the January rule 45 report
in your packet can
in your packet. Can I have a motion to approve the January
rule 45 report?
so moved by alderwoman Aria
So moved by alderwoman Aria Sanchez hearing no objection so
ordered
uh, the
Uh the item on the agenda before our committee is a vote
on.
uh 02024
uh, 0202400 8386 which is an ordinance that would require
the Department of Family and support services to report.
the Department of Family and support services to report, uh
exit shelter exit statistics. Uh,
uh, exit shelter exit statistics, uh exit statistics at new
arrival shelters. Uh,
arrival shelters, uh as well conditions,
uh after discussing with the administration on the specific
technical points we've made
technical points, we've made some changes to accommodate
some of their requests, uh these
some of their requests. Uh, these are in your packets
labeled substitute ordinance. Uh, may I first have a motion
to accept the substitute ordinance for consideration?
so moved by all other person Rodriguez
So moved by Alder person Rodriguez, uh, so the ordinance we
have introduced.
have introduced, uh, largely standardizes some of the
existing reporting Prov.
existing reporting provided by the city in a Cadence and
format that we believe.
format that we believe helps in providing transparency
accountability and accessibility into the work being done.
uh, related to shelter exits and conditions at it.
addresses. The challenges presented by an unprecedented
human.
humanitarian crisis. Uh, so we will begin uh with
presentation
Oh my I apologize. Uh, can we vote on accepting the
substitute?
uh, yeah, okay any
hearing no objections so ordered
All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
Rookie chairman working on it. All right, uh
Rookie chairman working on it. All right. Uh, okay, so
make sure this is
this is a move.
Got it.
Mr. Blakemore, I'd appreciate some order here.
Thank you.
Okay.
So, uh daily shelter exit and condition reporting, uh
ordinance.
ordinance for passage. So the agenda will go over the
overview.
overview, uh, some of the goals of the actual uh ordinance
itself.
um as well as a
Um as well as a timeline of implementation right to allow
to be able to do the work.
to be able to do the work necessary, uh, and the resources
that are already available.
so an overview the or
So an overview the ordinance establishes a regular reporting
to the altars.
to the altars and the public by the dfss on shelter exit.
of new arrivals in partnership with uh, the department of
Technology.
technology and Innovation, uh the office of immigrant
migrant Refuge.
migrant and Refugee Rights and the committee on immigrant
and Refugee Rights, uh the dat.
and Refugee Rights, uh, the data that we are requesting
largely already exists. We believe a formalized reporting
of such data would be helpful.
of such data would be helpful to Alders who have new
arrival shelters in their Wards to understand the impact of
exits in their Community, um, you know part of
exits in their Community, um, you know, part of what's
being told to the council is uh, based on the 60-day policy
folks will be able to go back to the landing zone or back
to shelter. Um, getting some of that tracking we believe is
important to know where folks actually end up and what uh,
how this could play out. So by getting some of this
tracking, uh, we want to get an understanding of what is
actually occurring
Um, so what we're asking for when it comes to the shelter
exit.
exit reporting as far as daily reporting.
Uh is the number of exits total in?
Uh is the number of exits total in per shelter? Um for each
of the folks who?
of the folks who are exiting from the shelter to also have
information.
information on age gender, uh,
information on age gender, uh the amount of time in
shelter.
the results of any exception screening, uh
The results of any exception screening, uh shelter that the
exited from uh date of exit.
exited from uh date of exit um, and the 1 uh adjustment
that was made due to the conversation with the
administration is not including the grievance reported on
The Daily because it is a more challenging.
The Daily because it is a more challenging to get on a
daily and it's something that could be better discussed.
aggregate. So that is not part of it the substance the sub
Substitute speaks to that not being a part of what's incl
included.
Um, here's an example.
Um, here's an example of some of the reporting that's
already available.
So here's some of the
so here's some of the reporting already available, uh as
well as some of the daily reporting that's being sent to
the Press currently as it relates to the exits. So,
although the Press is getting it.
although the Press is getting it daily, uh the council and
most of the members are
the members are not we just want to make sure that that's
kind of in line of the same reporting that's already being
out there with the additional, um details we mentioned age
gender amount of time and shelter, uh to be able to speak
to it.
So when?
So when we talk about the other reporting, that would not
be daily.
daily, uh this in conversations with the different.
departments, uh with you this kind of being more realistic.
to have on a biweekly basis when you're looking at
aggregate.
aggregate, uh is looking at the grievance reporting
so, uh, the type of grievances the categories the
So, uh, the type of grievances the categories the number of
grievances per category a date of grie.
grievances per category a date of grievance filings, uh
agreements report outcome and resolution.
agreements report outcome and resolution so really getting
an understanding on what the grievance is being reported
are um when we think about
are um, when we think about the shelter conditions and some
of the stories that we've heard trying to get ahead.
of the stories that we've heard trying to get ahead of what
some of those complaints may be what we're hearing.
some of those complaints may be what we're hearing and
maybe particular shelters and things that we need to be
addressed.
addressed, um to have that understanding is helpful so that
we can provide support to be able to address those based on
what's happening in the shelter.
what's happening in the shelter or what were happening
hearing overall. Um, we also want to get an understanding
of return reporting, right?
of return reporting right? So if there are folks who um
After exiting the shelter go to
The Landing Zone, how many end up back at Shel
The Landing Zone, how many end up back at shelter and what
does that look like? Um, we believe it's important to know
that.
that because if folks aren't coming back to The Landing
Zone.
Zone, they will more likely to not end up on the Street
Homeless nearby the shelter areas.
Homeless nearby the shelter areas, um close to folks that
they feel are community and close to the neighbors they
feel are familiar. So to get an understanding on what the
whole process looks like. We think it's just important to
figure out what needs might need to be addressed further
down the line.
Um, here is an example of some of the reporting.
Um, here is an example of some of the reporting that's
already gets sent out.
as it relates to
As it relates to incidents and grievances, uh those I
believe.
believe most of the committee was here. Uh last uh,
hearing where the grievance team actually showed some of
these metrics so they already largely have
these metrics so they are already largely have some of
these databases. We think having further convers.
these databases we think having further conversations on
how better to provide it Reg.
how better to provide it regular updates on it would be
helpful to see any Trends over.
helpful to see any Trends over time. Um, so like it's
you said largely to make sure we have an understanding of
what's being done what the processes are. What outcomes
look like, um, because we know this conversation,
about what support down the line might look like getting an
understanding on the processes and outcomes. We believe is
important.
important in making that case, uh knowing
important in making that case, uh, knowing that in all
likelihood between now and the Democratic Convention there
will be more and more buses coming.
will be more and more buses coming and currently there's a
limited amount of space and so being able to get tracking
on that makes sense.
so the ordinance provides transparency into the processes
related to shelter exits and grievances so that the public
city council County state and federal part.
city council County state and federal Partners, uh
immigration support organizations and immigr.
immigration support organizations and immigrant right
organizations are informed as to the status of the mission.
as it continues, um in order to figure out how best to
address situations. I think it also will speak to um how
the administration is looking at the extensions, right?
the administration is looking at the extensions right based
on particular cases being able to speak to accommodations
and exceptions that are being made.
and exceptions that are being made is also helpful in
understanding the process and seeing on average like how
long folks are staying in the shelter.
long folks are staying in the shelter, uh with those
extensions. So I think painting a better picture of clarity
about what's being done is most helpful and in the absence
of it a lot of narrative,
of it a lot of narrative is created that doesn't speak to
the good work being done. Um, so we think there's a Value
Inn in knowing that as well.
So should this uh pass it would pass out of this committee.
today, uh based on the substitute and the changes. Um, it
would pass out of the council April.
would pass out of the council April 17th, um, originally it
gave like 7 days after implementation in order to kind of
get it reporting.
get it reporting that would have landed on April 24th,
which would have been about a month from now. Um, but we've
made the change to allow for 30 days after passage. So the
time to actually get it organized talk to you with some of
the challenges are and get something that's presentable.
Uh, we believe between now and May 17th, and then that
would be when they would start the required reporting. So
we
talked to about how to get it executed.
uh the reporting sunset
Mr. Bay I will need you to provide some order or we will be
asking folks to leave we
asking folks to leave. We want to continue with this
meeting. We want to make sure you all informed.
meeting. We want to make sure you all informed we're asking
that you participate not necessarily in speaking because we
did have the public comment. We're happy to have
conversations after.
conversations after we would like to go forward with the
committee if it is not able to continue.
committee if it is not able to continue forward. We will be
asking folks to leave we do not want to do that.
There's a report.
There's a reporting sunset.
so that Sunset will be
So that Sunset would be 120 days after the city ceases, uh
shelter exit.
shelter exits. Um at after that there will be no need for
the reporting.
and
And uh here is the current reporting being provided.
And uh here is the current reporting being provided at uh,
the committee site at welcome to chicago.org. So we have I
mean, we're just showing that there's a lot of it. We're
happy to share.
happy to share uh via email as far as a lot of the
appointments already.
appointments already being provided. So we think that the
more information out there.
more information out there that speaks to the work being
done the better we can answer questions.
done the better. We can answer questions when the Public
Public is asking them. Um, so that is the presentation we
will now open it.
will now open it up for questions.
Uh hearing no qu, thank you. Yes, Al
Uh hearing no qu, thank you. Yes, alderwoman, Dal.
Yes, uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman 1 of the things that I I
think that data point that needs to be included in this.
think that data point that needs to be included in. This is
uh,
the country of
The country of origin. Um, we have been dealing with uh
issues related to uh members of the African diaspora, who
are part of this immigrant movement here. Um, and there
seemed to be some marginalization sometimes of that.
population, so I would like to have
population. So I would like to have this ordinance reflect.
uh
the country of origin as part of the be
Uh, yes, uh, I appreciate that in the original.
Uh, yes, uh, I appreciate that in the original draft, which
we included had the country of origin for that very reason.
we included had the country of origin for that. Very reason
knowing that there's different experiences different.
supports that are needed in conversation with the
administration, I think.
administration. I think they were some concerned on
reporting, but we definitely want to make sure
reporting but we definitely want to make sure that folks in
the Box could answer as to whether they able to provide
country or origin or not.
Uh, good morning Danny my AP.
Uh, good morning Danny my apologies if you get introduce
yourself, I terribly sorry about that. It's okay.
yourself, I terribly sorry about that. That's okay. Uh,
good morning Dani Castaneda director for new arrivals
division at the Department of Family and support services.
Um, yeah country is of origin is a data.
Um, yeah country is of origin is a data point that we
collect so we we would be able to report out on that.
collect. So we we would be able to report out on that. We
would obviously have to run it by law because some of these
data points could potentially link back to an individual.
So as long as we can do it safely and we aren't breaking
any rules.
any rules there. There's an administrative issue with doing
that. Okay, um,
Uh, I'll ask you a question first. I want to make sure that
we have uh ottoman CEO Lopez for Quorum for no, I'm sorry
at in attendance for the Committee hearing. Um, we would be
in support of adding the country.
in support of adding the country of origin back in I think
there's a conversation to be had.
there's a conversation to be had if members are willing.
I'm more than happy to have a quick recess to kind of sort
that out.
that out and the law departmental Pine on whether this can
be added.
be added on its face in this substitute ordinance. Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, uh Department of Law
And he ain't even got.
City
could you could
could you
uh
Uh, just for the record the Department of Law is
confirming. Uh, and
confirming, uh, and they will respond.
uh while while that's occurring the
Uh while while that's occurring the other thing we'll add
is in the substitute ordinance. That's currently
is in the substitute ordinance that's currently written.
For example if they don't have certain information.
For example, if they don't have certain information they do
have the ability to Mark unknown.
do have the ability to Mark unknown. Um, we added that to
give a little bit of room and situation where they may not
have the pertinent information. So that's also there to
take into account if for example
take into account. If for example, some of the information
isn't being provided,
Oh, thank you. Hey, how's it going?
Oh, thank you. Hey, how's it going Ray? Uh, yes.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Thank you.
Uh if you could introduce yourself.
Uh, if you could introduce yourself and respond.
Good.
Morning morning.
Jack to make sure that we're still in the morning, Ray
Phill.
Phillips Santos on behalf of the city of Chicago's
Department of Law.
Um on a very quick look obviously.
um on a very quick look obviously, um
I don't think that.
I don't think that that would violate the welcoming city
ordinance.
ordinance, um administratively.
It sounds like we uh collect that information so.
It sounds like we uh collect that information so we could
produce it. Um, and so, uh,
my initial take is that is that we is that that would be a
doable.
doable Edition.
New and improved rate out here. Thank you.
New and improved rate out here. Thank you very thank you
very much Ray. I appreciate um, so yes, it is possible. The
department does collect the information.
department does collect the information the depart the
department of family support services select.
information Department of Law said there it wouldn't run in
a conflict.
a conflict with uh, Municipal Code. So if
a conflict with uh Municipal Code. So if you would like to
I I move that we take a short.
I I move that we take a short recess to change the
documents so that we can vote on that and it and that
country of orig.
country of origin Point could be included. All right any OB
objections so move?
you
talking
What did he say? So so the question is?
What did he say? So so the question is since if we are
taking a racist if there are other things.
taking a racist if there are other things that members
would want to raise up and so we're not taking multiple
recess.
recesses, right? Okay. I got it. Yes all the women
Gutierrez.
Just wanted to ask.
Just wanted to ask because I know some of the um Asylum
Seekers.
Seekers are getting an extension because they have little.
kids in school. Um, is that going to impact the reporting
that they're going to that they need to be?
that they're going to that they need to be exited but then
they're having an extension so then not sure if that's
going to impact, um the reporting
going to impact. Um the reporting um, sure it's gonna be
like a I think that's pet
like a I think that's Peter kind of the intent and maybe if
the Box wants to follow up, um, I don't believe so meaning
the decisions that the department is going to make are what
they're going to make.
they're going to make we're asking just for insight into
how that is. So for example, um, there was a time where the
there wasn't the decision to provide extension if you had a
kid in CPS, there is now currently so you could Mark that
as the aggregate data and the bi-weekly as to how many of
those there are in total. Um, but what we also do know is
when school ends that policy may not remain and so we would
also want to just get the understanding of like
are staying or not so I don't believe
decision-making on how the extensions
outcomes end up looking like but uh if the box has any
additions to that
Yeah, good morning, Jon.
Yeah, good morning. Jonathan erns first Deputy Commissioner
Family Support Services
I think
what what it'll do, um
you know, there are
uh
day day before adjustments to those who who are at the end
of their stay and so, um, I think the only concern is uh
the timing of reporting out to council. It's not so much.
don't think this will impact, uh, any certainly to to the
Chairman's point. It won't impact the decisions. I think we
just want to be careful in what we're reporting to you.
just want to be careful in what we're reporting to you as
accurate. So, uh, it's there could be a there there really
should be a delay in in the information of like who's being
who's being who's leaving today and when we can get that
accurate information to you, um,
but but it does not nothing here impacts.
But but it does not nothing here impacts won't impact, uh
the policy in any way.
And to add more context and I really do.
And to add more context and I really do appreciate the
response for so that it's on the record and clear. We do
recognize that what happens on 1 de may not end that way on
that day. So if there's a couple days that it takes to
actually get more accurate report.
actually get more accurate reporting there's a difference
between us receiving information.
between us receiving information daily, and when they're
able to sort out and feel confident about being able to
report that so let's say for example we
report that so let's say for example, we have discussed if
there's like a 3 or 4 day lag time between who is in you
know scheduled to exit and what actually occurred and then
having to report that out. We're absolutely comfortable
with the time it might take to get that.
with the time it might take to get that information sorted
out and then having that almost as a disclaimer of like
this is based on what we finalize.
this is based on what we finalize here, but just us on a
day-to-day basis understanding kind of what it's looking
like, so just wanted to make put a finer point on the
record just because I know that's part of the conversation
we had had thank you for that. Thank you also do it so
sorry. Yeah, sorry, and then whoever is doing the reporting
right now.
right now is the same person that is going to continue to
do the reports or we need to have more.
do the reports or we need to have more team members.
doing the reports, so
Doing the reports. So to also part of and we'll do the
intent and then how it's playing out. There are multiple
people at multiple shelters.
people at multiple shelters doing multiple points of data
so part of the conversation.
so part of the conversation and be had between now and May
17th is how does the department of technology and
Innovation get involved? What is a process look?
Innovation get involved? What is a process look like? What
is reasonable and kind of talking to those those points?
is reasonable and kind of talking to those those points
knowing that when you've got what really is what some might
refer to as building a plane while flying it there's
different processes and different shelters. We want to make
sure there's a way to get that standardized and so wanted
to take the time to talk to you how to do that between now
and implementation but
and implementation. But yeah, yeah. Yeah again Jonathan's
first deputy.
first Deputy Commissioner Family Support Services. Uh, I
think
there there is a there's a lot in this ordinance.
There there is a there's a lot in this ordinance that
currently today is going going to be.
currently today is going going to be difficult to deliver
on a on a daily basis. And so there does need to be a lot
of work put in uh between our department.
of work put in, uh between our department oemc. Uh, the the
department of uh, technology and Innovation and and
chairman. Um, I think we all need to collaborate on on what
what can actually be achieved in this ordinance and and
what we may need,
what we may need to tweak.
yes, please. I
Sorry, Mr. Young.
Sorry, Mr. Young babe, please.
Yeah, I I would just appreciate the opportunity for us all
to get together and really craft an ordinance that that we
can follow.
can follow through on accurately get transpar.
there, uh data out.
there, uh data out there that is useful and and is not
misleading in any way. Um, so that's really the ask of the
department.
department that we continue to work on an ordinance.
that is is deliverable.
As a yeah.
Oh, sorry, um other than
Oh, sorry. Um Alderman, can you send and then other woman
is yours on this particular?
is yours on this particular topic? Go ahead.
Thank you. Thank.
Thank you. Thank you chairman.
Hope you get the microphone. Okay, thank you chairman. Um,
I'm glad you brought that point.
I'm glad you brought that point up because this is
something that I share with the um, chairman is are we
really setting up ourselves to failure when it comes to
daily basis? I think, you know, we there's a lot of
different things a lot of reports. We're all busy. We're
always running around different things. So,
always running around different things. So it you know the
day that 1 report doesn't come out. Is there going to be
like, you know,
I'm so sorry to you know, negative impact because somebody
didn't.
didn't submit report and then it's going to be like well
another day so so for me if you
another day. So so for me if you will reconsider our
conversation, um, it would be to be on a wake weekly basis.
It would just give you enough.
It would just give you enough time to be able to um,
collect this information I think again,
collect this information. I think again daily. I it seems
that it's important, but I think how do we make sure that
this reports come often? How do we make sure we have
consistency? How do we don't don't sell um set ourselves
for failure. It is very important.
for failure. It is very important to make sure that we're
intentional and we have a strict purpose of what we're
doing with this, um ordinance. So if we can reconsider that
to be a weekly basis, I think it will be more impactful
too.
too, but also,
Can you talk about?
Can you talk about um when this information comes out with
this report? So they
this report so they can see who's exiting the shelter who
is going?
is going to the landing station, but who is who is
be those individuals doing that? Is this something that
it's going to be done at automatic?
it's going to be done at automatic level like who is we or
who is the ones going to be?
who is the ones going to be in charge of tracking who lives
and who go to Landing who comes back to a shelter? Sure.
Yeah. I I can answer to both of those points. So for the
first 1 and part of what the substitute draft was and as we
were discussing which is why part of why the meeting
started late was going point.
started late was going Point by Point how many they
actually could provide daily so that's what
actually could provide daily. So that's what actually led
to removing the grievance part. So every single point that
we talked through for example, if you have somebody who's
being told today's your last day you
being told today's your last day, you can find out the age
gender when they first came in how long they've stayed
those are all information that could be arrived daily. We
actually asked them.
actually asked them if these are daily they go. Yeah, we
could do those and so those were kept in the section for
daily. So you feel
feel confident that you can do report send those reports on
a daily basis.
I I would I would certainly
We can work on.
We can work on daily. I I do agree with you that we
We can work on daily. I I do agree with you. That weakly
would be a more manageable tasks. And honestly, I I believe
it would show you.
a better picture of the trends that are occurring
A better picture of the trends that are occurring rather
than 7 different reports that you have to look across.
than 7 different reports that you have to look across 1
report.
On what?
On what happened in the in the past week? I think you can
start to see.
start to see trends that way. That's my personal opinion,
but
But can we do it daily? We will try to do it daily.
and that's
And the second part of the question.
about who is the
About who is the ones who are going to be the 1 I know you
said we will be check.
said we will be checking from who X is the shelter who goes
to the landing zone. So, who is we?
to the landing zone. So who is we so so I think the
Departments do that right like right now for having
situation where people are being told that they're going to
leave or have to leave.
leave or have to leave in 60 days that is tracked when they
have the 45-day meeting that's tracked when they have the
21.
21-day meeting that's tracked. They have the case
management that they've said is robust. So when you're
leaving the folks who are exiting that is all part of that
same information that the Departments are tracking what
we're saying is to actually put that together in a way that
reports back. So that is uh tracked as well as folks that
end up at the land.
end up at the Landing Zone folks will end up back in
shelter all those things.
shelter. All those things are data points the department
already tracks. And so what we're saying and and we've done
this even with the software we do now,
this even with the software we do now if you were to
welcome to chicago.org we've done this stuff in a week as
far as getting some of the information
point that the challenges that are going to
for trying to get that all together and that's
to talk through DTI and other ways how to get that
standardized and have the 2 months to do so.
standardized and have the 2 months to do so, but it is very
doable if this is
doable. If this is information you already have about
people that are going to exit to be able to compile that
and do it and I think to to the point the Deputy
Commissioner first Deputy Commissioner made, it won't be
the same day right? There's there's a projected outcome and
then what actually occurs when that report actually leads
to the finalized. We're sure of this data. It's absolutely
reasonable to have that run.
reasonable to have that runtime and figure that out. Um,
that wouldn't
that would negate the ability to have those reports on a
regular basis.
Um again, just based on his answer. I think trying to you
know, we already setting we already knowing that we're
probably not going to get them.
probably not going to get them every day. And I mean I
again,
again that's a conversation that everybody else can have
but I will suggest on a weekly basis. Okay. Thank you. Uh
Alderman can Newson
great. Thank you. Um, so my question I think is indirect to
this because I'm not sure it's information. We should be
report.
reporting. I'm not sure it might be but I just wanted to
follow up with the administration while they're here
regarding whether um when we process
regarding whether um, when we process, um, uh people into
the shelters if we do have a self-identification option for
people within the lgbtq plus community.
uh
Yeah, Dani, Castaneda order.
Uh Dani Castaneda director for new arrivals at DFS.
Uh, Dani Castaneda director for new arrivals at dfss. Uh,
yes on our inform hold.
yes on our inform. Hold on for a second. We are trying to
continue this meeting if someone Contin
continue this meeting if someone continues to disrupt you
will be asked to leave.
Uh, is that Mr. Blakemore?
I'd like for you to not interrupt.
you
You go, please.
Uh on our intake form we do.
uh on our intake form we do ask for uh, we asked about uh
gender identity and sexual orientation.
So yes, we do. Okay. Thank you, and I'll just remake the
point I that um you all know and I I think it's an
important 1 is these identity metrics? Um once we you know,
know move people out of the shelters really do matter.
know move people out of the shelters really do matter as
different organizations then pick up the slack and provide
services in different ways as well as it matters for the
legal Asylum claim. Um,
legal Asylum claim, um for us to internal and in a
confidential way have that information on file helps the
person in the end.
person in the end because the legal Asylum categories are
split in a way that does focus on identity. So I think it
is important.
is important information when people want to provide it for
them to be able to provide so thank you. Uh,
them to be able to provide so thank you, uh, just to follow
up on that because we are very clear on not having like
personal.
identification information
Identification information but in doing like widgets for
lack of a better term. Um, I guess I'll ask similarly if
we're going to go to recess to figure out changes. Is it
Poss?
possible to be able to include that as like a data set
independent of personal identity? Uh, and would there be
any legal concerns similarly to Country?
any legal concerns similarly to country of origin?
uh well genders
Uh, well gender is already on here. So we would be
reporting on gender someone's
reporting on gender. Someone's gender identity that they've
named to US based on sort of our our options that we've
listed on our intake form. Um, but otherwise in terms of
whether we can share it or not for privacy reasons, I would
defer to the Law Department.
yeah, so the
Yeah, so the question is separate from personal identity
information. Yeah.
again, Ray Phillips Santos on behalf of the city
Again, Ray Phillips Santos on behalf of the city of
Chicago's Department of Law.
on these reports
I have had.
I have had a continuing concern that the more.
I have had a continuing concern that the more specific we
get.
um
The easier it is to type back to an indiv.
The easier it is to type back to an individual.
and um
whereas from a legal standpoint strictly legal stand
Whereas from a legal standpoint strictly legal standpoint.
It's not going to violate in my opinion.
It's not going to violate in my opinion the uh welcoming
city ordinance.
But again the more information about individual.
but again, the more information about individuals that we
put on there and you know when you're talking about 5
people leaving in a day.
It's gets easier.
It's gets easier and easier to track who is leaving a FAQ.
facility. So again my position.
facility. So again, my position is to tell you what is
legal and what is not legal.
legal and what is not legal to the best of my ability and
in and given the Forum.
I'm giving you the information.
I'm giving you the information that as I see it. Yeah, and
I also appreciate the context as well to take into
consideration. So, yeah, and and I totally agree because I
think it would be a broader conversation.
think you would be a broader conversation whether we would
want to report that information. I don't think we would I
think in parallel to the points that chairperson dial
brought up we know.
brought up. We know that there are certain populations that
are more.
are more at risk in the shelter, um having worked.
shelters across the border it is it is very frequently the
Haitian population, um small population in lgbtq plus
populations, so
populations. So my the tone of my question is really making
sure that as a city we um, uh, we we we help them as
they're moved out.
Abyssal
Absolutely. Okay, uh any uh other questions
You got 2 of them?
you got 2 of them. Sorry. My bad is ready to go to you. Uh,
yes, uh other women down.
I just have 1 question first. I wanted to raise up what
Alderman Cruz said about.
Alderman Cruz said about uh, uh weekly reporting instead of
daily. So I would support a change if if that change were
made, um on the question.
made, um on the question of grievances. I noticed there
were 4 cait.
were 4 categories 1 was other can you give me a sense of
what might be captured under that?
what might be captured under that for example?
That would be for the Department. Sorry.
Uh, are you referring to the the SL?
Uh, are you referring to the the slide the other category
on the slide the slide that was in?
on the slide the slide that was in uh, the Chairman's
presentation was it had uh health
uh, uh unsuper
Uh, uh unsupervised children, and then there was an other
category.
category which had which was significant. I just would like
to get a sense of what's included under the other category
as examples.
Uh, yeah if we can pull it up just so that I can get.
Uh, yeah if we can pull it up just so that I can get a
sense of what the I just I don't want to miss.
sense of what the I just I don't want to miss big here.
that 1 uh, I mean, they're generally there are was there
another for the Grievances or is it the incident reports
you're referring to?
You're referring to incident reports. This this incident
report. There's another on that 1 yeah. Okay. Yeah for
incident reports. I mean people are living their daily
lives in these spaces, so
lives in these spaces so we can never have an exhaustive
list.
list of of a every single category for an incident so it
could be you know, someone
could be, you know, someone you know,
tripped and fell, but we don't have a
tripped and fell category. That's maybe not a perfect.
example. Um, and that's not a good thing because that would
go under Health and Wellness.
go under health and wellness. Well, I just was trying to
get a sense of those what might be examples and you can do
that through the chair. I don't need you to yeah. I think I
think also to speak to that because we recognize that
tracking is also a work in progress. I think we want to
figure out
like you may see that as health and wellness somebody else
might see it as like liability accident getting a better
understanding of all those categories and getting more
specificity down. The line makes sense. We just think
starting at this point and then getting more learnings off
of it allows us to get more prec.
of it allows us to get more precise because I think it is
in the public interest to hear those things. So, um, yeah
do the chair if you could provide anything, but also, um,
there has been conversations and commitment to figure out
what other reporting is helpful and having these larger.
conversations about what that can look like.
Thank you.
Thank you, uh any other questions?
Okay, then I will motion for.
Okay, then I will motion for a 10 minute.
5 minute. I'm cool with 5 5 minute recess so that we can
sort out some of the differences in the substitute and then
uh introduce.
uh introduce that uh, so 5 minutes.
Yes.
Yes, I'll do an interview after.
Okay.
Uh, folks will be coming back to continue. We'd like to
finish this 1 up happy to answer questions after.
finish this 1 up happy to answer questions after I'll sit
no problem, but we want to make sure we continue with the
meeting. Okay?
Yep.
Okay, we are back from uh recess.
Okay, we are back from uh recess uh, having discussed and
made some changes.
made some changes to a uh, made amendments to a substitute.
Yes, uh other person Rodriguez.
Could you let us get the mic to make sure?
my apologies
uh, I
Uh, I moved to accept the substitute ordinance as amended.
Thank you, uh all in favor.
any opposed
All right, and the opinion of the chair the eyes?
all right, and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it?
Uh, The Substitute as amended has been introduced.
uh any questions just
Uh any questions just for background and on record. Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead.
Sorry. Go ahead move to pass Alder person Rodriguez.
Sorry. Go ahead move to pass Alder person Rodriguez, uh
moves, uh, do pass all in favor of passing the sub.
as amended.
all opposed
any opinion of the chair the
Any opinion of the chair the eyes have it?
Uh, I will report.
Uh, I will report this vote as a recommendation to pass at
the next city council meeting.
the next city council meeting on April 17th. 2024 with
there being no.
there being no further business before the committee. May
we have a motion to add?
we have a motion to adjourn?
speed rounds, uh
Thank all the women.
Thank all the woman ages so moves hearing no objections so
ordered.
ordered the committee is adjourned.