city council Rules of Order and procedure rule 49 the ser sergeant-at-arms sets forth the following rules of conduct to be followed during the public. That's all I got. If I'm not here. the city of Chicago City the city of Chicago city council rules of conduct for public meetings 2023 to 2027 pursuant to the Chicago. meetings 2023 to 2027 pursuant to the Chicago city council Rules of Order and procedure. Rules of Order and procedure rule 49 the sergeant-at-arms. sets forth. Good morning everyone to be followed. finance is called to order. Welcome. Welcome back. I hope everyone had a good weekend. Um, Happy St. Patty's Day to those who celebrate it um, we will now have a roll call to Um, we will now have a role call to establish a quorum. Vice chair Conway alderman laspada Alderman Hopkins Alderman Hall Alderman Mitchell Alderman Harris Alderman Beal alderman Alderman Lee Alderman Ramirez Alderman Quinn Alderman Lopez Alderman Moore Alderman Curtis Alderman OSHA Alderman alderwoman Taylor Alderman Mosley alderwoman Alderman Rodriguez. Oh, he's on remote. Excuse me, all the woman Scott. Alderman seicho Lopez vice mayor brunette Alderman Talia Ferrell Alderman Cardona Alderman wag is back. Alder alderwoman Rodriguez Sanchez Alderman row Ramirez Rosa Alderman Spa Alderman Vasquez Alderman Reilly alderman condensin Alderman Martin chairman dowels here We have a quorum with 18. Mehm. We have a quorum with 18 members. Um, we have requests. Uh, Alderman Rodriguez Alderman IR Alderman Rodriguez Alderman Ervin Alderman viegas Alderman mitts. mitts Alderman Silverstein and Alderman Mosley. requested remote participation under the Prov. requested remote participation under the provision of rule 59. Can I have a motion to allow these? 59. Can I have a motion to allow these Alderman to attend the meeting by remote means so moved by Alderman spaz So moved by Alderman spaz, I mean alderman laspada. all those in favor signify by saying I post and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and the motion carries. I'd like to conf. the motion carries. I'd like to confirm that those aldermen are with us this morning. are with us this morning Alderman Rodriguez. Alderman Ervin Alderman vagus Alderman viegas president Alderman mitts Alderman Silverstein Alderman Mosley is present Okay. Thank you. Ottoman Miss present. Thank you Alderman mitts. At this time, we'll begin the public. At this time, we'll begin the public comment period which will last 30. will last 30 minutes if if we have that many speakers. will last 30 minutes if if we have that many speakers out of respect for everyone's Time Each speaker is limited. of respect for everyone's Time Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. Um, the committee has been informed that we have no callers remotely. no callers remotely, but we do have uh in-person callers. and the first speaker is Wallace Gator Bradley. Oh. Oh, good morning chairman. Good morning, and your uh August Finance body. first off I want to say I thank God I want to say to God be the glory that. the finance committee came to a conclusion to settle. the case for the 5.5 million because Of police, Mis. of police misconduct where our police detective or officer or hers the individual to implicate someone else and a murder knowing that To implicate someone else and a murder knowing that he didn't do it. and behind all the thing that's been in the news how the All the thing that's been in the news how the private attorneys that the city was hiring. was defend Was defending cases that they know. or knew that they couldn't Or knew that they couldn't win. I'm glad that. I'm glad that there's a new corporate Council. I'm glad there's a new Finance chairman. that understand That understand that you have to stop the bleeding. from the taxpayers because at the end of the day is taxpayers money that's coming out the budget that y'all put together and in order to defend these cases. together and in order to defend these cases that they know that they can't win. I know there's a lot of other Birds cases. that may be stacked up to here now chairman since you got That may be stacked up to here now chairman since you got there, you know, it's been going on that long. So I just pray that this robust buddy. pray that this robust buddy body. Which is the finance committee? do everything that they can To write the wrongs that's been going on. To write the wrongs that's been going on all the time that some of the ordinary never. some of the ordinary never knew what was happening until that laquan McDonald. that laquan McDonald case came out and everybody was wondering how could they hurry up and want to pay 5 million? but moving forward I'm glad that y'all came. to that conclusion because I believe it would have cost the city more money if you didn't settle. If you didn't settle, you know what I mean? You got James Gibson. Gibson's case up there mark Maxon case up there. A couple of others. I'm just saying that the people in the city of Chicago is paying attention to the new Administration and the new people. Administration and the new people that had a responsibility to help. to help right wrongs. I just want to say I appreciate you. And you know my favorite words from gate. And you know my favorite words from Gator Bradley. I'm glad that y'all listened, but thank you. Thank you, Mr. Brad. Thank you, Mr. Bradley. Um, I want to acknowledge alderman. Harris and vice chairman Conway have joined us. Harris and vice chairman Conway have joined us for Quorum count and Alderman Co Lopez Our next speaker is George. our next speaker is George, Blakemore? Good morning, Mr. Blakemore. It's not a good morning. It's not a good morning and it's not a good look. over Over and over again be settlement. Over and over again be settlement for when police abuse black. black people. if If not a good morning, when will it stop? When will it stop? When will it stop John Burke and they continued doing the same thing? same thing over again? if not a good morning if not So gonna go there. It's not a good morning when I see ate about black ultem. vote for Sanctuary when all black behind me sanctuary. It's not a good morning. And it's not a good look. somebody I heard Somebody I heard Mr. Tim video the young man that come up. here and speak and he said this is not a antib South. Yes. Yes, it is. It's worse than Jackson, Mississippi. It's worse. It's worse than Houston, Texas, Atlanta, Georgia. It's not a good morning with these settlements over. hundreds of millions of dollars every year. hundreds of millions of dollars every year go for this. Holy shall be John verse. Holy shall be John verse it continues go on because we have poor black leadership. Where are the black people here when? Where are the black people here when hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent for? dollars are being spent for illegal immigrants and these people are? people are empty of black men and women it's not. these people are empty of black men and women if not a good morning. Don't go there with me. And you was 1 of them that. And you was 1 of them that voted for Sanctuary. Why would you do that? What motivated you if you hate to do that? When your people need good? When your people need good job contracts and serve. How can education? Why would you do that? What motivates my black lead so-called leadership to? like you act? Why did he do this? is It's not a good look. This is worse than antib. It's not a good look. This is worse than antibiotic down. He's Sam. He's sambo Angel mama house. is Is not a good morning. well Well, well folks you would expect 1 thing with birth, but now we got a black girl of Friday. And we expect you to not. And we expect you to not act like birth. We expect you to look out for our in. We expect you to look out for our entry all of these Democrats. I'm telling all my people don't vote Democrat come. come a republican vow. Where the rep thank you, Mr. Blake Moore. This concludes the public comment period want to acknowledge Alderman OSHA who has joined us for quorum. um we Um, we've received 1 written public comment from sustainable Eng. sustainable Englewood initiatives requesting the developers to work with the local Partners on the Earl Apartments. projects. This was sent electronically to everyone. I also want to acknowledge Alderman Quinn who is joined us as part of forum. and Alderman, uh Mana hop mana hoppenworth and Alderman Lawson who are not part of the committee, but who have joined us this morning? We'll begin uh with the rule. Um, We'll begin uh with the rule, um, 45 monthly report. Um, you have in front of you the februari 202. you have in front of you the february 2024 and the amended October and November. October and November 2023 rule 45 report. October and November 2023 rule 45 reports. Um, we sent those electronically to everyone and if there are no questions, can I get a motion to recommend do pass of the approval of this? approval of this monthly 45 report and that motion was made by Alderman Martin. Thank you all. made by Alderman Martin. Thank you all those in favor signify by saying I op Oppose an opinion of the chair the eyes have it. We have a 13 items before us this morning. And so we'll begin with item number 1 which we did hear in febuary. Um, but it uh had a slight issue. Um, and we needed this support of a Alder. alderman who shared a tiff in this area who is since giving her approval. That's Alderman Coleman this her approval. That's Alderman Coleman. This is an ordinance concerning the issuance of financial assistance to Earl school LLC. school LLC for the Charles Earl Apartments project located. at 1711 West 61st. at 1711 West 61st Street in the 15th Ward and we have substitute ordinance which was prepared and sent electronically. electronically to everyone. Is there a motion to accept the substitute so moved by Alderman Martin, uh, although it's in so moved by Alderman Martin all those in favor signify by saying I post and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and the substitute ordinance is now before the committee and will be explained. be explained by Deputy Commissioner Tamara Collins. Good morning. How are you? Good morning. Thank you. Uh, good morning Madam chair and members of the commission for the record. My name is Tamara Collins. And today. I'm presenting the Charles Earl Apartments. Also in attendance with me. Today is the developer. with me. Today is the developer Ron cure of Gorman and Company members of Phoenix. Company members of Phoenix Foundation the nonprofit entity partner. partner beehive the Architecture Firm and Community stakeholders. stakeholders from teamwork Englewood and rage. Charles Earl school is within the boundaries of the 63. Charles Earl school is within the boundaries of the 63rd and Ashland TIF district located at 171. Ashland TIF district located at 1711 West 61st Street formerly addressed as 6121 South Hermitage. The school is within the 15th Wards Englewood West. Community area where Raymond Lopez is the alderman. Community area where Raymond Lopez is the Alderman and the alderman has provided a letter of support for this prop. proposal. slide 3 next slide of the CH Charles Earl school building was constructed in 1897 with an addition in 19. was constructed in 1897 with an addition in 1900. It was added to the National register. added to the National register of historic places in March of 2021. of 2021 the school opened as 1 of many schools built to serve Chicago's growing student population in the late 19th. and early early 20th centuries the schools served Chicago students for over a century before closing. students for over a century before closing in 2013 next slide. the existing slide includes multiple buildings to the historic building to additional buildings were constructed to expand the school. This includes a 1974 structure with the mezzanine. structure with the mezzanine level a in a 2-story Annex Building. Building, uh constructed in 1971. The 1974 structure will be preserved for the benefit of this project and the 1971 structure. structure will be demolished. the project includes the Adaptive reuse and historic preservation of the existing rural school, and we will be redevelop. redeveloped into a um, a portable permanent Supportive Housing. Housing for tenants with incomes at 60% of am Housing for tenants with incomes at 60% of Ami and below and the focus is on deeply affordable units at 30% of Ami and below. The developer was selected through 2 comp. The developer was selected through 2 competitive processes including the cpsr. including the CPS RFP process and also through Ida's long. long-term housing tax credit process where they received an award of 1.5 million and 9 percent tax credits. the idea for the renovation of rural School kick The idea for the renovation of rural School kicked off in in 2017 with alderman. in 2017 with Alderman Lopez hosting the first of several Community meetings. The Earle School Outreach team is made up of community. community-based organizations with a long history of building coalition. building coalitions alliances mobilizing disconnect. minorities and working across sectors and SOC. minorities and working across sectors and socioeconomic divides toward a greater vision of racial. healing participants include included the students and parents of lianlam high school. uh the resident Association of Greater Engel Uh, the resident Association of Greater Englewood also known as rage teamwork Engel. known as rage teamwork Englewood and the EG would since 2019 meetings have happened in person during Since 2019 meetings have happened in person during coid and and during Co meetings continued virtually. Meetings will continue through Construction. Meetings will continue through construction and post construction Charles Earl. construction Charles Earl students a residents will be able to organize. to organize and guide ongoing operations through resident Council. As stated earlier the 1897 building. As stated earlier the 1897 building was designated as a Historic Landmark in 2021. Historic Landmark in 2021 the Charles oral family residences. residences formerly known as The Charles Earl school. Um will provide will be in all. Um will provide will be an all-electric building that will provide 50 units of affordable rental housing. households earning no more than 60% 80, uh, 60% of Ami the project off. project offers amenities including on-site Property Management social. Management Social Services laundry community room. Management Social Services laundry community room exercise room and a Comm and the computer lab existing windows and brick will be replaced. existing windows and brick will be replaced or preserved to maintain the historic profile of the building. the community surrounding the project is walkable to businesses and transportation. The site is accessible to the CTA green line at 63rd in Ashland. The 63rd Street bus is a block and a half away from the site. is a block and a half away from the site and the CTA bus lines also include the 9th. lines also include the 9th and the number 9 Ashlyn bus and the fit number 50 day in bus lines. the site The site is also accessible to the go green on racing Fresh Market grocery store at 63. Market grocery store at 63rd and Racine and to Kennedy King College at 6. College at 63 in Hollister. additionally Gorman is Additionally Gorman is working on a second project in the 16th War called the regen. 16th War called the regenerator which was selected through the city's 202. the city's 2021 longcome housing tax credit funding round. the developer Gorman The developer Gorman is develop developer as a Gorman and Company LLC. Company LLC the co-developer and sponsor is the Phoenix Foundation, which is a nonprofit. The architect is beehive. And the attorney is Ryan heart boner. and the attorney is Ryan heart boner and um Van van Duren and the GC is Burling. Gorman and Company was established in 1984. Gorman and Company was established in 1984 and currently employs over 450 individuals through the development architecture construction and Property Management, uh in the Wisconsin area while this is the first of 2 projects within the city of Chicago Gorman has already proven dedication. dedication and commitment to Chicago and the Englewood community Through partn. community Through Partnerships and Community engagement over the last several years. over the last several years while trying to bring forward this project. the Phoenix recovery the the The Phoenix recovery, the the nonprofit sponsor is Phoenix foundation and 20. foundation and 2020 Phoenix recovery identified a need for affordable. affordable housing within the organization and in 2021. Phoenix Foundation NFP was founded to Phoenix Foundation. NFP was founded to seek Housing Solutions for homeless people during the pandemic. particularly those individuals and families with histories. substance abuse involvement in the justice system and with other behavioral, uh issues the Phoenix foundation and Phoenix recovery is a bipac Le organization by Sherry Allen Reeves the Reeves. The who is the executive director. She has worked in the service of others for over 30 years and is a very VOC. vocal advocate for homeless and those Des vocal advocate for homeless and those disenfranchised she serves on multiple committees with local. serves on multiple committees with local Continuum of Care of Chicago Coalition of the homeless. of Chicago Coalition of the homeless the Chicago homelessness and health Response Group for and health Response Group for equity and under her leadership Phoenix foundation will provide all the on-site services to the tenants of the Charles Earl Apartments. the arch The architect beehive is a bip Park Le architectural engineering design. engineering design collect firm with Community focused. They have designed and developed smaller multi family de developments and and is now and they are now working with Gore. Gorman architecture to assist on this larger multi family develop. development. the attorney Reinhardt The attorney Reinhardt Manner and Van Duren has worked extensively for both. extensively for both nonprofit and for-profit developers counseling own. counseling owners and lenders and investors. sophisticated low-income housing tax credits, histor. Rehabilitation tax credits throughout the United States. The contractor birling is a Chicago. The contractor birling is a chicago-based full-service construction company that offers a range of services. specializing Specializing commercial, excuse me specializing in commercial and multi. commercial and multi-unit residential construction projects and has over 40 years of experience. and has over 40 years of experience in the Chicago land area next slide. the proposed ownership structure of Charles Earl school includes Earle School LLC as 100% owner has a limited partner. partner MCI Earle School LLC with 99% ownership. partner MCI Earle School LLC with 99% ownership interest and a managing member Earle School. Mmm LLC as a 1% ownership structure. ownership structure the managing member consists of Partnerships with the Phoenix. Partnerships with the Phoenix foundation and GC Earle School. School LLC next slide. the plan is the project is planted is The plan is the project is planted is a plan development or also known as the PD with 2 current. also known as the PD with 2 current sub areas sub area a includes the proposed. includes the proposed site showing the remaining buildings and parking as well as the proposed landscape. It includes out. outdoor amenities such as a play area and outdoor patio. Grilling spaces. Sub area B, which is ref. Sub area B, which is reflected outside of the highlighted box has not been. box has not been reviewed or approved by do and therefore is not being. is not being considered for financing as part of this presentation. The developer will return to the city to review and address any additional plans for sub area B. review and address any additional plans for sub area B next slide. the unit The unit mix uh includes the project has a total of 50 units. that are comprised of 31 bedrooms 22 bedrooms. that are comprised of 31 bedrooms 22 bedrooms for a total of 50 units the project in of 50 units. The project includes 9 Project based vouchers from the Chicago Law and housing. from the Chicago Law and Housing Trust Fund the Chicago low-income housing. low-income housing trust fund invest in the creation of new rental housing for low-income housing households by providing long-term op. providing long-term operating subsidy in the form of vouchers covering. vouchers covering rents for units set aside for 15 to 30. Ami There are also 12. there are also 12 HUD 8111 uh vouchers for There are also 12 HUD 8111, uh vouchers for units at 30% of Ami and no tenant will pay more. Ami and no tenant will pay more than 30% of their income towards rent. next slide the total development cost is the approximately 32.5 million and in million dollars and includes multiple layers of financing to support the development. to support the development in addition to the 4.2 million dollars. dollars in Tiff and the 4662 in CRP from the city. The project will be financed with various sources, including the 1.5 million. the 1.5 million dollars in tax credits from Ida as well as historic tax credits. and state tax credits, which collectively And state tax credits, which collectively generated about 20.5 million dollars in tax credit equity. Additionally it is going to provide a loan of over just over. 3.2 million dollars these sources account for um about 86% of the total development. um about 86% of the total development costs also included is a 2250 Grant um and fund from pom Ed a $1 million in funding from the Federal. funding from the federal Home Loan Bank, and the total cost per unit is about 6510 the per unit is about 6510. The city's subsidy is well leveraged in this project. leveraged in this project the tip and CRP funding as I said accounts for about 14. accounts for about 14% of the total development costs the remaining 86% of the financing comes from other public and private sources. private sources outside of the city. The project will meet. The project will meet the city's requirements of 26 and 6 for MBE. for MBE and 50% participation for Chicago res. for MBE and 50% participation for Chicago residents. It will serve individuals and families at risk of homelessness with wraparound services from Phoenix found. with wraparound services from Phoenix Foundation. It encourages housing stability by Prov. encourages housing stability by providing affordable housing units equipped with amenities and supports residents and their family. It will create Construction. It will create construction jobs and permanent jobs and permanent jobs. permanent jobs includes roles like Property Management supportive. Supportive Services and maintenance. Do has reviewed the project and supports this much-needed affordable. affordable permanent Supportive Housing proposal. Do and Earl school LLC respectfully requests. Do and Earl school LLC respectfully requests your approval of this project. this concludes the This concludes the presentation and at this time I'm happy to answer any additional. to answer any additional questions. Thank you, Miss Collins. Uh Thank you, Miss Collins, uh questions from the committee Vice chair Conway. Um, if you go back to slide 11 the that's the uh for Sadducees. The tax credit Equity who's that coming from? I'm only asking because the because the mention of the Maui grants. on the other slide, so the the tax credits are on the other slide. So the the tax credits are actually Ida's tax credits the 9% tax credits and they sell the tax credits to send a syndicator and then they provide the equity for that. It's the same for the historic and state tax credits those also get sold as credits and then the equity comes to the project. Wonderful. That's all I have. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you any. Thank you. Any other questions all the woman tailor you go. back to the slide where it says who is Earl l or Earl school LLC who makes that up? so that uh, Ron clewer is So that uh, Ron clewer is here. So that's the the ownership structure and Ron clewer and Phoenix House are the um, partners for um, the developer and call developer for the project. Gorman and Company in Phoenix Foundation that so that is who the arrow School LLC is and they are from where uh, the the G. the Gorman and Company is from Wisconsin. They're out of Wisconsin and the Phoenix Foundation is is a local organization. Played a f say the local organiz. Played a f say the local organization Phoenix foundation and who was the Phoenix Foundation? Uh, so that the chair you ain't got to answer. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I don't. I just they are here. are here. They are here. Yeah, Sherry, uh, Sherri Reeves is here from the Phoenix foundation and Ryan Flores here from the Gorman organization. It's not just speaks. Say your It's on just speaks. Say your name. My name is Ron clewer and I'm Illinois Market president. and I'm Illinois Market president for Gorman. It is um true that Gorman. that Gorman & Company is headquartered or corporate offices or head. are headquartered in Oregon, Wisconsin, which is about 10 minutes. minutes south of Madison. However, I represent the, Illinois. Illinois, um District of Gorman if you will, um, we are indeed an Illinois based. indeed an Illinois based company. In in my world. I live in Rock. In in my world. I live in Rockford, Illinois. I do a great deal of work in um, Illinois across, Mol. deal of work in um, Illinois across Molen Rockford the Quad City or excuse me. City or excuse me, Rock Island, and then um, we're working on uh projects in Naperville in um, Highland Park and other communities, but um we specific communities, but um, we specifically focus on addressing housing. housing that serves a greater social purpose and with the Great great need for permanent Supportive Housing. That's the bulk of our work. We cannot do it. However without incredible partners and next to me I have both uh, Sterling and Sherry who represent the Phoenix foundation and will be providing. So, uh, services on the project the Phoenix Foundation Services on the project the Phoenix Foundation has a 51% interest in the managing member. interest in the managing member partnership government and company has 49. company has 49% interest in addition to that. Um, it has been very important to us. I grew up not far from Englewood and so the areas near and dear to my heart and I understand that most people in Englewood do not look like me. and so it's And so it's very important that we provide opportunities through our work to people. through our work to people who don't look like me and we have support. have supported a strong beepo commitment to the project both at Earl school and the Reg. both at Earl school and the regenerator and of the 32 million dollars that is up there about 82 and a half percent of it. percent of it will go to bipac organizations who are doing the construction. Um also looking at the the construction. Um, also looking at the financing side the services side and then the ongoing work with the permanent jobs that stay at the site both for Gorman as property manager. property manager and um Phoenix foundation for supportive. Services individual. individuals there will be about Individuals, there will be about 160 thousand dollars a year in in wages paid. for folks who are local and then For folks who are local and then also there's about 160 dollars. dollars a year that will go to contractors in. dollars a year that will go to contractors in you know in and around the neighborhood will support the project on an annual basis. Thank you, Mr. CL property tax. Um Miss briefs would Um Miss briefs, would you speak to uh Phoenix? I think it's a good opportunity. a good opportunity for people to learn more about your organization. Thank you. So organization. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Uh, and it is a good morning. Just so y'all know I I I'm clear about that. Uh, but what I like to say about what who we are as the Phoenix Foundation we are are as the Phoenix Foundation, we're an organization that is clearly about making a difference. is clearly about making a difference for people who have experienced homelessness, right? And experienced homelessness, right and also the fact that we are led by people. are led by people who have a have a life experience, right? either through homelessness recovery, whatever. either through homelessness recovery, whatever it is the we we are looking at providing services. we are looking at providing Services through that lens knowing full. Well what it takes to get back on track and to make a make a difference within our community and provide that level of leadership but not only that but that example of what's possible and that's what we're really living into but this particular project we're living in to example of not only what can happen. But how you in generational homelessness, right Homelessness right? Because that's what it's about. Right? It's about the fact that these people who come particular Housing Development won't have to have generation of them who who experience homelessness. we're going to be provide this the tools and the resources necessary to end generational home. necessary to end generational homelessness that also that looks like providing some avenues for financial education. That looks like that looks like providing opportunities for home ownership. That looks like that looks like providing opportunities to Entrepreneurial skills so they can create their own business and create generational. and create generational wealth. So that's where we're really about. I've been working in homeless. really about. I've been working in homeless services for nearly 30 years. No Alderman d nearly 30 years. I know Alderman Dow very well because I worked in 2 programs in her Ward. So I know full well what it takes. so I know full well what it takes to make a difference in the lives of people that we serve and the people that particularly those who look like me right because it's harder for the sub 77% of the people who are experiencing homelessness. homelessness in the city of Chicago look like me and that shouldn't be right and so we have an opportunity to make difference. That's just so thank you very much. We got a long agenda. So I don't mean to cut you off Alderman Reilly you had a question. I do um Madam chairman. Thank you and I do um Madam chairman, thank you. And of course I plan to support this project, but I do have a couple questions. Um, could we go back to the SL? could we go back to the slide that shows the total project? cost, please? So it's roughly 32.5 million and then can we go back to the unit distribution? unit distribution slide? for 50 affordable units so that pencils out to roughly. so that pencils out to roughly 660,000 dollars per unit. Is that correct? I guess that's for the Department. That's correct. And very quickly. I know we have a long agenda here. Um there have been a couple. Um, there have been a couple of uh, rental buildings that have actually transacted in the South Loop over the last couple. couple of years, and these are relatively new construction. Delivered in 2020 I think 20. delivered in 2020 I think 2021 And the average unit count for those. And the average unit count for those buildings that have just been sold comes in around. just been sold comes in around 270,000 per unit. How is it that we have these These are? How is it that we have these these are all good projects, and these are ones that I support. And these are ones that I support, but it's frustrating I think to a lot of folks no matter where. think to a lot of folks no matter where you are on the affordable housing. ideological spectrum that that's a very high cost Ideological spectrum that that's a very high cost to deliver these units. and I And I guess you know, I think for everyone's benefit. Is there something that contributes to these being so expensive to? expensive to deliver when we've got new? expensive to deliver when we've got new market rate properties transaction? properties transacting for a whole lot less per unit. Sure. Um I can just Sure. Um, I can just speak just in in general and specifically for this project we specifically for this project. We have seen costs escalate over the last 2 years particularly during Co and now Beyond um on the new construction and on the preservation side, I would keep in mind that this is a 50 unit. Uh, building. So there are some additional things that have to be taken into account on this. It is a school. It's Adaptive reuse, so there's a lot of stuff that has to happen uh there and so that's going to Happen uh there and so that's going to add additional cost to the project. Sure. Um, and then to the project sure. Um, and then but in general we have seen costs escalate. I want to say in 2018. seen costs escalate. I want to say in 2018 2019. We saw cost coming in around. cost coming in around 500,000 dollars a unit um costs. gone up due to construction interest rates. around 7 or 8% right now, and I understand that man, but I I guess even before we started experiencing. highly escalating uh inflation Highly escalating, uh inflation of the last several years. these These units still have been in excess of 500,000 dollars to deliver. Which by comparison is? Which by comparison is a lot more than it seems market rate units are. units are transacting for. so I'm as interested in stretching our affordable dollar as far as we possibly can to deliver more units. it seems It seems that regardless of the current market condition. These are still incredibly expensive compared to other units delivered in the city and I units delivered in the city. And I guess I'm just trying to understand why that is because the city does have a mission to deliver as many units as possible. But these costs far outpace what we're seeing for other propert. outpace what we're seeing for other property. And I'm talking about property in the central business. district. Thank you Alder. Thank you Alderman. That was a question Madam chairman. the best that I can address it is what? the best that I can address it is what we've seen just over the last couple of years. the last couple of years, uh, as I've already stated interest rates are going up cost in there have been supply chain issues. chain issues during uh coid and still a little bit now. chain issues during uh coid and still a little bit now cost of materials have gotten higher I know. of materials have gotten higher. I know that when you do affordable housing and you'll get no argument from me. affordable housing, I've always said is expensive to build and in support of the affordable for the people to live their there. There are other costs associated with it that you might not see due to the restrictions on affordable housing. that you might not have on a a regular real estate. transaction a market rate deal. So you might um have more restrictions on how many how much reserves you have. into a project. Um, there may be restrictions on for example if there's market rate in an afford. example, if there's market rate in an affordable deal those rents have to be discounted so that means rents have to be discounted. So that means more money has to go into the project because generally the the the market rate units are discounted by about 15% to make sure that the building stays stable. these projects have to remain stable for 15 to 20 years so we can we have to so we generally are putting a little bit more money into the deal, but the project you know when you're doing affordable housing. you're doing affordable housing, um, you know, we're trying to create safe decent. to create safe decent and affordable housing. I can't I mean this is really in my opinion a question that goes really to the market like why are things as high as it is we've been asking these questions. I don't know that we've gotten really clear answers from the um construction industry. Um, but As far as I can tell you. As far as I can tell you now this is what we're seeing, uh coming in and coming. coming in and coming into. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that and appreciate that. And that's obviously a topic for another day, but day. But um, thank you for this. I just wanted to point this out to my colleagues. this out to my colleagues that we should be doing better on the prices. We're paying the prices were paying for these units if we want to put people into stable housing. Thank you madam chair. Thank you and just a small comment on the sales that you're talking. talking about. Some of those sales are um actually below the cost of what it costs these guys to build right? So that's 1 thing you have to take into account plus the number of units that is going into the number is sometimes I mean we're talking 50 units here in the case of the 1 building in my ward that just sold at uh on Michigan 13th, you know, there's hundreds of units in that so that's a large. a large number that goes into um, the that's a large number that goes into um, the FAQ sale price of something that was lower than probably what he used to construct it. Okay. alderman Alderman Le spotter Thank you Jared. I I just want it's a good conversation to have and maybe it's 1 for are there building standards? the housing committee to take up at some point because we do throw. do throw up so many roadblocks to developing. do throw up so many roadblocks to developing affordable housing and actually make market rate. housing and actually make market rate housing less expensive in the process. I mean Anyone here who's had an affordable housing project? Ward probably knows we hold them to higher labor stand. than we do market rate developments. I'm sure a lot of market rate developers. Enjoy not paying prevailing wages, but that's not made. but that's not made available to affordable housing developers. I'm sure it must be easier. developers. I'm sure it must be easier to not be held accountable to the sustainable development policy or to the state. state historic preservation office like their projects that have been made infinitely. their projects that have been made infinitely more difficult because they're affordable housing and expensive than being market rate housing. So if we want to level the playing field, I would be glad to hold market rate developers to The Standard. rate developers to the standards that we do affordable housing developers. We probably get better. housing developers. We probably get better units out of market rate development, but I I understand this I mean for 15 years. 15 years, it's more than that probably it's been more expensive to develop affordable housing than market rate housing. housing and if we want to have a serious conversation around that I'm sure our new commissioner has a lot of ideas to bring to the table to work with your team. work with your team on those numbers. Um, but I'm glad for the project. I mean it is very challenging to develop this kind of depth of affordability the way that that impacts your proforma the the costs the revenue. the costs the revenue you're bringing in over time. The maintenance of those units all goes into this so no, maybe that that's No, maybe that that's a teaching that we do for Alders at some point. some point in the future, but I'm I'm glad for the conversation. I don't really have questions. I'm excited for the project. Thank you. Thank you appreciate your comments. Um Uh, we have letters of support from all. uh, we have letters of support from Alderman Lopez and support from uh, Alderman Coleman. Uh, so Alderman vagus you have a question. Uh, yes, ma'am, um mad. Uh, yes, ma'am. Um Madam chair if um, is it this is a CPS facility. Yes. Do is it? Do is it possible that dpd or CPS could provide? Do is it possible that dpd or CPS could provide a list to us as to what other schools are in the pipeline? us as to what other schools are in the pipeline for this type of projects that this is a great repurpose of a existing structure. We just wanted to see what the plans were if there were any plans. Thank you. Uh, we'll have to reach out to C. Uh, we'll have to reach out to CPS, um on that, uh, they're not Part of this discussion this morning. I thank you for your question. Thank you. And we would like to acknowledge all the Curtis. And we would like to acknowledge all the Curtis who's just joined us for Quorum. Can I get a motion? joined us for Quorum. Can I get a motion recommending to pass for this item? so moved by Alderman Lee recommend So moved by Alderman Lee recommending due pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of the chair. chair of the eyes have it and the due pass recommendation for this. for this item will be reported out at our next city. meeting the second item. Thank you. Um, the second item on our agenda is from the Department. our agenda is from the Department of Housing as well. It's an ordinance concerning. an ordinance concerning the execution of a loan restructuring. restructuring agreement with Hallstead limited partnership for the property located at 3600. for the property located at 3600 through 3616, North Hallstead. Hallstead Street in the 44th Ward. Um, we are by Joseph Lewis the financial planning analyst with the Department of Housing who will present on this. Madam chair excuse Excuse me, um, Mr. Clure and the Gilder sleeve and Miss Allen. Allen Reeves. Thank you so much for coming before. Allen Reeves. Thank you so much for coming before us this morning. Congratulations. Uh, yes is that Alderman Ervin? Yes, ma'am. It is I just want to let you know I'm here. Okay. Thank you. And chairwoman. This is Alderman Ramirez Rosa Ramirez. Rosa and and solar scene and Silverstein the gang's all here. Welcome. Mr. Lewis Thank you. Thank you chairman dowel members of the committee for the record. My name is Joseph Lewis, and I'm a financial planning analyst with the Department of Housing. The request before you is a proposed. request before you is a proposed ordinance to authorize ownership or structuring of the 79 unit mixed use affordable housing community. affordable housing community for senior citizens known as the Town Hall Apartments. the Town Hall Apartments the property that is the subject of this. of this request is at 3600 to 3616 North holstead Street in the in the 44th Ward and all their loss and supports this restructuring next slide, please in particular Doh seeks authority to restructure City documents related to the Circa 201. documents related to the Circa 2013 existing approximately 4.6. 4.69 million dollars City Loan made to haul partnership, which is the owner of Town Hall Apartments. partnership, which is the owner of Town Hall Apartments to provide for a proposed change of ownership. The proposed restructuring will 1 remove Heartland housing from the ownership of the property and allow full circle communities. communities and Center on fed in the ownership of this property. And 2 will not other. and 2 will not otherwise alter the principal interest rate lean position or maturity date of the circuit 2013 City loan or any affordability rest. loan or any affordability restrictions at 3600 to 3616 North Hallstead next slide, please. Shown here is the location of the subject property, which is a high. a high-rise elevator service mixed-use building at the northwest corner. northwest corner of the intersection of North holstead Street and West add. Street and West Addison Street in the Lake View Community. Next slide please. uh the exterior of the subject Uh, the exterior of the subject property is shown here. The building was originally constructed in the 2010s and contains ground floor retail. contains ground floor retail commercial space and 79 studio and 1 bedroom units with all units restricted to occupancy. by senior citizen households earning no more than 80. by senior citizen households earning no more than 80% of the Chicago area median income. The subject property was redeveloped by Heartland housing and placed in-service is mixed income housing approximately 10 years ago. to support the circuit 2013 Red To support the circuit 2013 Redevelopment of the property is a portable housing the city of Chicago. is a portable housing the city of Chicago provided an approach, uh provided an approxim. approach, uh provided an approximately 4.7 million loan of Home funds. Home funds, uh, which is scheduled to come due in 2045. low-income housing tax credits and donation tax credit. assistance next slide, please subject the subject restructuring is motivated by the fact that Heartland housing is not financially stable enough to meet its obligations. meet its obligations as an affordable housing owner and continue its business as an as an affordable housing developer. art Artland housing notified the city of Chicago in April of 2023. 2023 that its portable housing portfolio including this property. property was in distress and that it would not be able to ensure its properties as of June 1 2023 the city filed a motion asking the circuit the city filed a motion asking the Circuit Court to appoint a receiver Community initiatives incorpor. a receiver Community initiatives Incorporated to manage 3600 to 3616. 3600 to 3616 North holstead and other Heartland Affiliated properties. properties in the city and Heartland housing effectively. shuttered at that time. The receiver was discharged. The receiver was discharged by the court in January 2024 and recog. and recognition of Full Circle communities capacity and willingness to place. willingness to place insurance coverage in connection with the property prior to closing on the proposed restructuring. Next slide please. Slide provides a visual of the ownership restructuring. I will note that the requested. will note that the requested action does not involve a conveyance of the property to a new owner. conveyance of the property to a new owner of record, but rather this restructuring concerns. rather this restructuring concerns the composition of the ownership interests in the entity that is ownership interests in the entity. That is the owner of record all said limited partnership. To this end the subject of restructuring would replace. Heartland in the ownership with full circle communities as well. well as increasing the center on Hallstead ownership interest. There's no overlap in the management principles of heart. of Heartland and the management principles of Full Circle communities. communities next slide, please Full circle communities is in Illinois not for-profit corporation. That was corporation that was formed in 1999 and is headquartered in Chicago. led by CEO Joshua wilmouth will Led by CEO Joshua wilmouth full circle stated organizational mission is to expand access to cual. affordable housing through preservation and development. thoughtful design and the provision of significant and targeted. targeted social sir. Excuse me Supportive Services to their residents. residents in the surrounding communities. Excuse me, Mr. Lewis. Lewis, uh, is there something called presentation? and to the officer in the back And to the officer in the back if there's a way to move that noises. that noises, it's bothersome. Thank you Alderman Taylor. You can continue okay? Led Led by CEO Joshua and will my full circle communities stated organizational mission is to expand access to quality affordable housing through preservation. quality affordable housing through preservation and development thoughtful design and the provision of significant and Target. significant and targeted Supportive Services to their residents and the surrounding communities In total full circle has an ownership interest. In total full circle has an ownership interest in over 1,400 units in 3 states and owns 7. units in 3 states and owns 7 properties in Chicago containing over 400 units. recent work includes development of Brainerd Park Apartments a 36 unit supportive living facility. at 89th in Loomis in 2018. at 89th in Loomis in 2018 development of 5150 Northwest Highway is 75. Highway is 75 unit mixed income apartment community for veterans disabled person. veterans disabled person seniors and families in Jefferson Park and acqu. Park an acquisition and Rehabilitation of South Park Plaza 13. 134 affordable units and 6 buildings near 20 near 26th Street in King Drive in 2023. Next slide please. I've recapped the requested actions in the slide for your consideration, and I'm joined by Mr. Joshua wilmouth the president and CEO of Full Circle communities to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you for your consideration of this matter. Thank you, Mr. Lewis. Almond Lawson. Thank you very much. Madam chair, uh, very happy. Thank you very much Madam chair, uh, very happy to get my support to this restructuring. Um anyone who wants to tour this is 1 of the most important buildings in my ward. Ugh, and I have regularly filled so this and I have regularly filled. So this is uh, the first of its kind lgbtq friendly sin. its kind lgbtq Friendly Senior housing in the midwest. Um that opened we're going on 10 years ago now, um, the residents love it. Um, it was the youngest building in hartland's portfolio. hartland's portfolio, uh, which I know made it 1 of the easiest ones to spin off. easiest ones to spin off um, and to maintain but I know that work continues work continues, I know the next item up. I know that building very well in 48, too. So I want to thank do and the receiver receiver. Um, Making this move quickly. I think there's a a lot of consternation among all of those units when there's there's uncertainty um in housing and and the city did a really great job there. I want to make full circle communities for coming in. I think they have a great Mission. Um, the Josh wilmouth and I met uh month ago, I think um, and really appreciate their commitment this also, really appreciate their commitment. This also gives more uh control to Center on Hallstead, uh, which control to Center on Hallstead. Uh, which of course is the nation's first lgbtq focused Community Center. nation's first lgbtq focused Community Center, uh in the midwest not the nation's first, so it's a very midwest not the nation's first. So it's a very exciting block, uh that I'm proud of and is important for our city. So happy to give my support and appreciate yours as well. Thank you. Alderman Taylor Is this a building that's already occupied? Yeah, excuse me. Uh Yeah, excuse me, uh the property at 3600 to 3616 North Hallstead. Hallstead is an occupied, uh developed property and all but 2 units are occupied as of uh as 2 units are occupied as of uh, as of a week ago. with the change over we With the changeover, we those folks when we displaced or X to move. That's right. There's no relocation or displacement activity cont. contemplated in connection with this restructuring nor any um modification to any affordability restrictions currently in place at the property. Thank you madam chair. Thank you. Thank you madam. Chair. Thank you Vice chair Conway. Uh, yes if you go back to slide. yes, if you go back to slide 4, please the 1 with the uh overview the overview slide. the the upb there I The the upb there I presume that's that's on paid balance, right? Upb is unpaid principal balance. That's correct. So does that was? that was 4.9 issued initially and that uh, how much is amver? uh, how much is amortized to date or is that not yet issued? uh with respect to this property, uh the city Uh with respect to this property, uh, the city loan is secured by a mortgage and second lean. secured by a mortgage and second lean, uh under the following terms with the it had an original amount. following terms with the it had an original amount of up to 4,900. 4,900 582, uh with 4. 4,900 582, uh with 4,692 181. 4,900 582, uh with 4,692 181 actually drawn during development. So is the difference between the 4.6 and the 4? So is the difference between the 4.6 and the 4.2? The amount that's amortized. in the last deck In the last decades since this went up or what. Is that? What does that represent? Well, um, the the unpaid amount of the loan is presently it is the 4.6 number. Um, the had issued the loan with the face value of up to 4900. million 40058. million 400582. Um, not all of that full face amount of the loan was actually any needed for project costs during construction. Well when you say the unpaid part of the when you say the unpaid part of the loan is 4.6 and it says unpaid balance. unpaid balance is 4.2. What is that difference represent? What is that difference represent is that acred interest is that? something else Oh. I I apologize. I misstated uh, uh in connection other item that I am presenting today. So I'm not trying to stump you. I'm just trying to get some clarity on the 4.9 4.2 difference. clarity on the 4.9 4.2 difference here. Sure the unpaid principal balance of this. principal balance of this particular loan is the 4.2 number. Um, the original face value was 4.9 repayment. Terms are there are repayment terms on this loan and the difference between 4.2 and 4.9 represents rep. difference between 4.2 and 4.9 represents repayment that has occurred in the past 10 years. Okay. So yeah, that's the advertised. and what's and what's the And what's and what's the interest rate on this loan? 0% All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you Alderman, Mitchell. um, can you go back to the Um, can you go back to the slide that had um this action? And then it had 2 bullet points. Uh right here requested action. I'm curious about some for the for number 2. It will not alter princip. the for number 2. It will not alter principal balance of loan interest rate loan the loan payment. loan interest rate loan the loan payment, uh, the the lean position of the loan or the maturity date. I will. I was Heartland able to be removed. from the loan in full and full circle takeover uh at Uh at the that that is the subjective today's present. and the requested action is to is the authority to formally remove Heartland from ownership. remove Heartland from ownership of this property and to install full circle communities in its place. Most of install full circle communities in its place most of the traditional obligations. traditional obligations and duties 1 might think of as an owner collecting rents paying operating expenses paying real estate taxes Etc. The responsibility for that has been removed from Heartland for several months, um by the court, by the court. Yes the pursuant to the appointment of receiver by the Circuit Court. receiver by the Circuit Court, uh, Heartland was disempowered from those activities. Uh, this is to complete the sort of Um restructuring that you know, they they've been disempowered. disempowered already, but now we're formally removing them from the ownership and removing that mention of the city's loan document and there's been some form of vetting. vetting going that has taken place before about full circle. in their ability to continue on Uh, that's right. Pretty much as this has a going concern. That's right. Uh, we we have done due diligence on Full Circle. Circle communities as a replacement owner, uh, Circle communities as a replacement owner. Uh, we have no concerns with their capacity to to uh take concerns with their capacity to to uh, take over in place of Heartland. Okay in terms of their financial. Thank you for that clarification. Okay. Thank alderman Alderman followed by vice mayor Bernette yeah, so I just Yeah, so I just wanted to really Echo what Bennett said I know this isn't a new. know this isn't a new project. Um, and the the the that it's already 77 out of 79 unit. that it's already 77 out of 79 units filled shows a demand we talked to a lot. We talked to a lot of seniors within the lgbtq community and this project I think is a a great. and this project I think is a a great um, uh example of how we can boost community. we can boost Community a lot of times these seniors don't feel at place or feel a little bit outcasted in in certain other. other homes. So as an extension of what Center on Hall does so well and you know, like does so well and you know like Bennett I've sent I've spent a lot of time in Center on Hallstead this a lot of time in Center on Hallstead. This is just such a good impact. So I wanted to take the opportunity on what's not a new thing to really say I'm I'm hopeful that uh, you know more focused senior housing like this comes up. affordable. Thank you. Vice mayor brunette. Uh, thank you very much Jew just for um, clarification, uh, I know like I have Clarification. Uh, I know like I have a building that uh, Heartland had and and we have a receiver over it right now, so you So you only bringing Folks up, uh, because Heartland is Heartland had to give up all of their properties, but you're bringing this 1 up because they're restructuring the loan, right? Um, we we're bringing this forward because um, we need to restructure the city's documents to provide. restructure the city's documents to provide for the sort of permanent. Um, permanent, um, you know restructuring solution. permanent, um, you know, restructuring solution, uh to exit Heartland housing and to install a new owner. Heartland housing and to install a new owner in place. Uh, there are several properties. there are several properties that Heartland had owned throughout the city including uh some in Ward 27 and elsewhere in the city. elsewhere in the city, uh, each property is on. a for lack of a better phrase a different track to closing on the restructuring. There's different factors to consider in terms of interest in taking over these properties. Uh, and we are you know, basically moving each restructuring forward as as we are. forward as as we are, you know as they are ready to move forward. Um, unfortunately, it is not the case that every single heart single Heartland. sponsored property is ready to move forward to to new ownership, but those that are ownership. But those that are we will we will bring to city council as soon as as they are ready to you know, uh be considered in that manner. Okay, because I know like with the property. the property in my ward. At the end of them. at the end of them, uh, losing the property in At the end of them, uh, losing the property in between that time they neglected a lot. time they neglected a lot in those buildings, like for instance. I had 1 building that they didn't have they wasn't even paying the people. wouldn't even paying the people to pick up the garbage. for a long time For a long time right? And so it's a lot of probably a lot more expensive. more expensive that they had to deal with um on the end because of the neglect. end because of the neglect or or the the the challenge that they had. they had fulfilling the obligations and taking care of those. those buildings before they lost it lost. those buildings before they lost it lost all of this property. So this is these are cost. so this is these are costs that we probably uh incurring right now because of that. Uh, so yes, unfortunately the receivership activ. Yes, unfortunately the receivership activity has. Comes with a cost. Uh Comes with a cost, uh, the receiver, uh is handling certain affairs. Affairs of the property and and you know, they they they incur expenses as they do that. Uh, it is it is I could get given that fact it is. I could get given that fact it is um of utmost importance for us to to move these Of utmost importance for us to to move these as forward through restructuring as soon as we are. through restructuring as soon as we are in a position to and there's an interested uh a and there's an interested, uh able and willing uh owner that can come in. that can come in to to take over and provide for long long-term. long-term stewardship instead of this sort of temporary fix. That is the receiver. fix. That is the receivership. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you Alderman brunette. Uh I motion made by by Alderman Taylor due pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and this motion carries and the recommendation will be reported. out at the next city council meeting item. out at the next city council meeting item number 3 is a similar situation. similar situation and ordinance concerning the execution of a loan restruct. a loan restructuring restructuring agreement with Hollywood. house limited partnership for the property located. house limited partnership for the property located at 5700 North Sher. North Sheridan Road in the 48th Ward. Um, we are Will continue with Mr. Lewis from the Department of Housing. Thank you chairman. Thank you chairman dowel members of the committee, uh again for the record. My name is Joseph. for the record. My name is Joseph Lewis. I'm a financial planning analyst with the Department of Housing. planning analyst with the Department of Housing the request before you now is a proposed ordinance to authorize ownership restructuring of the 197 unit mixed income housing community for sin. housing community for senior citizens known as the Hollywood House Apartments. Hollywood House Apartments, uh, the property that is the subject of this. request is at 5700 North Sheridan Road in the 48th Ward and Alder Mana hoppenworth supports this restructuring next. slide, please. specifically Specifically do is seeking authority to restructure City documents. documents related to the Circuit 2008 existing. documents related to the Circuit 2008 existing City home or City. Cdbg Loan made. City. Cdbg Loan made to Hollywood house limited partnership, which is the owner of Hollywood. which is the owner of Hollywood House Apartments to provide for a change of own. for a change of owner a proposed change of ownership the proposed restruct. proposed restructuring will 1 Heartland housing from the ownership of the property and allow full circle communities in its place. and 2 will not otherwise, uh modify the principal interest rate lean position or maturity date of the 2008 City loan or any affordability rest. or any affordability restrictions at the property next slide, please. Shown here is the location of the subject. Shown here is the location of the subject property which is a high-rise elevator service mixed. a high-rise elevator service mixed use building at the northwest corner of the intersection of North Sherrod. northwest corner of the intersection of North Sheridan Road and West Hollywood Avenue in the Edgewater community. and West Hollywood Avenue in the Edgewater Community next slide, please. The exterior of the subject property is shown here. The building was originally constructed in the 1960s it contains. contains and contains ground floor retail and commercial space and 197 studio and 1-bedroom units. space and 197 studio and 1-bedroom units for seniors. most of the residential units 177 in total are rest. are restricted to occupancy by senior citizen households earning no more than 60% of the Chicago area median income. and the subject property was redeveloped by Heartland housing. housing and placed in service is mixed income housing approx. approximately 15 years ago. uh to Uh to support the 2008 Redevelopment of the property is mixed income. mixed income housing the city provided an approximately 4. 4.88 million loan of cdbg funds. 4.88 million loan of cdbg funds scheduled to come due in 2015 low-income. 2015 low-income housing tax credits and tax increment financing assistance. financing assistance next slide, please uh, like the last presentation the subject. uh, like the last presentation the subject restructuring is motivated by the fact that Heartland housing is not financially stable enough to meet its obligations as an affordable housing owner and continue its business as a housing developer. Heartland housing notified the city of Chicago in April of 2023 that it's a portable housing portfolio including this property was in distress and that it would not be able to ensure these properties as of June 1 2023 the city filed a motion asking the Circuit Court to appoint a receiver community. a receiver Community initiatives Incorporated to manage 5700. 5700 North Sheridan and other Heartland Affiliated properties in the city. and Heartland And Heartland housing effectively shuttered, uh around the middle of 2023. The receiver has since been discharged by the court. the court in January 2024 in recognition of full. the court in January 2024 in recognition of Full Circle communities cap capacity and willingness to place insurance coverage in connection with the property. coverage in connection with the property prior to closing on the proposed restructuring next slide, please uh this uh, this slide provides visual the ownership restructuring, uh, Uh, I'll note that the requested action doesn't involve a conveyance. conveyance of the property to a new owner of of record, but rather it concerns the uh, changing the composition of the ownership. ownership interests in the entity. That is the owner of record. record Hollywood house limited partnership. to this end the To this end the subject of restructuring would replace Heartland in the ownership. Heartland in the ownership with full circle communities. Uh, there's no overlap in the management principles of Heartland in the management principles of full. Heartland in the management principles of Full Circle next slide, please Full circle is Illinois. Full circle is Illinois, uh is an Illinois not-for-profit corporation that formed in 1999. corporation that formed in 1999 headquartered in Chicago. It's led by CEO Josh wilmouth, uh in total it has ownership interest in over 1400 units in 3 States. including 7 properties in Chicago with over 40 4. including 7 properties in Chicago with over 40 400 units, uh recent work as mentioned in the last present. includes the development of a 36. includes the development of a 36 unit supportive living facility at 89th in Loomis in 2018. Uh, the development of a 75 unit mixed income Community for veterans disabled persons. persons seniors and families in Jefferson Park and acquisition. Of 134 units in 6 buildings near 26th Street in King Drive in 2023 next slide. in 2023 next slide, please. Uh I've I recap the the requested actions on on this slide for your consideration. I'm joined by Mr. Joshua wilmouth. circle communities to answer any questions you may have. Uh, thank you for your consideration of this matter. Mr. Lewis, uh alderman manal hoppenworth Thank you chair. Thank you do. Thank you chair. Thank you do and uh, thank you Joseph for the presentation. Uh, yeah I fully support. the presentation. Uh, yeah, I fully support this, um happening. This has been a long time coming and um, the that um, it's been this long it. that um, it's been this long it it um points to the the residents who have been waiting. for a very long time For a very long time uh for for something to happen. For a very long time uh for for something to happen and and uh the conversations today. uh the conversations today, um makes me think that we might need to look at affordable housing differently. need to look at affordable housing differently because of um, the way we structure it, which is a private and the way we structure it which is a private and public ownership. Um, when the ownership leaves we you know, it's the residents that are made to suffer because of uh elevators that don't work because of security issues because of lack of maintenance. Maintenance and um, so, uh, Heartland, Maintenance and um, so uh, Heartland, um could have reached out and said that they needed help but they didn't and so the residents were made to because of the receivership told to keep paying their rent and uh, even though the building was under distress, and so we are we welcome full circle. I appreciate that Josh. we are we welcome full circle. I appreciate that Josh came to the office to you know talk to the office to you know, talk about um, the plans, you know, the 48th Ward is um is uh, you know, Is a high opportunity area for development? Is a high opportunity area for development. So it's a very desirable place to live and um these folks that have been living in Hollywood house have been there for many of them. for decades and they remember when it was a beautiful building to live in and they um, they want to stay, you know, this is steps away from Hollywood. know, this is steps away from Hollywood Beach. This is right on Sheridan and um, these are veterans these are um folks with disab. folks with disabilities, um older adults and uh, they want to dignified place to live and so we've been waiting uh for a long time. Um, I know that Joshua and his team, um are committed to maintain not only maintaining the building but also improving it and also providing services for those that live there. Um, and um, yeah, I I, uh, I fully support this I um, thank you Joshua. Thank you do and I hope we as a city can think about ways. we as a city can think about ways that we can uh provide more affordable housing. more affordable housing in Chicago besides the way we're doing it now, doing it now. Thank you. Thank you Alderman alderman Taylor Thank you madam. Chair. So is it full circle again? This is the second. Yes, ma'am. It's the the same organiz. the second. Yes, ma'am. It's the the same organization. Uh that is that was proposed in the last. that is that was proposed in the last matter to replace Heartland will all is also proposed. Heartland will all is also proposed to replace Heartland housing's interests in 57. housing's interests in 5700. What was Full Circle? I don't think of full circle is here represented by Mr. Wilmouth if you would, uh, come to the mic and tell us something about your organization. tell us something about your organization happy to thank you for the opportunity to present my name. you for the opportunity to present. My name is Joshua wilmouth. I'm the president and CEO of full. wilmouth. I'm the president and CEO of Full Circle communities. We're a Chicago based. communities where Chicago based nonprofit We own about 2,000. 2,000 units um in Iowa. 2,000 units um in Iowa, Michigan and Illinois. we are located in the We are located in the West Loop. I am actually a constituent of chair. constituent of chairman dowels. I've never met you. 1,600 South Wall Bosch. All right, and actually we met at uh 2021 tax credit. uh, 2021 tax credit announcements at 18th and Wabash. It's a couple of years ago it has been um, our mission is the creation and Um, our mission is the creation and preservation of affordable housing through thoughtful design. affordable housing through thoughtful design and the provision of significant and targeted. provision of significant and targeted services to that to our residents and what that means is we take 75 cents out of every dollar that we earn from the properties that we own and manage and we use that to pay for services for our residents. residents based upon their self-identified needs we residents based upon their self-identified needs. We are a real estate. experts Experts were affordable housing experts were not service providers. So we partner with local organizations in the last instance. We've increased the amount of ownership and economic benefit. economic benefit to Center on Hallstead to continue providing the services that they're providing at Town Hall Apartments here. Apartments here because there is no direct service provider connect. connected to the building Heartland was providing services at 1. at 1 point in time, but they have not for a while. at 1 point in time, but they have not for a while, uh my services team, who are services team who are charged with connecting communities to Services. Uh, we've already had initial meetings with the residents. We're going to be doing focus groups. the residents. We're going to be doing focus groups and Community meetings throughout this year. Community meetings throughout this year to identify where people are challenged not just with the built environment of the building. of the building as Alderman hoppenworth noted but also, of the building as Alderman hoppenworth noted, but also where they are struggling relative to social connection or Healthcare behavioral health things of that nature and start bringing. start bringing services to bear for our residents at that property as Joe Lewis mentioned we have That's Joe Lewis mentioned. We have 7 properties in the city of Chicago with more than 400 units virtually all. of Chicago with more than 400 units virtually all are affordable our 501c. affordable. R501 C3 Charter mandates that uh, the majority or all of our units are affordable. or all of our units are affordable and again mandates that we dedicate 75 cents out of every dollar that we earn for services for our residents. Thank you. point of information Alderman Curtis 75 cents per every dollar per project yes, so 75% of our developer fees our Yes, so 75% of our developer fees our cash flows and distrib. distributions made to serve sponsor loans and things of that nature. 75% of every dollar goes to directly to provide or to for fun fun to reserve. fun fun to reserve for services at that property or in the community. Thanks. Thank thank you. Uh hearing no more questions. Can I get a motion to approve approved? approved by Alderman Taylor again, uh recommending do all those in favor signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it. opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and the motion carries and we'll be reported out. carries and we'll be reported out at the next city council meeting Mr. Lewis. Thank you for your presentation this morning. We'll move on to item. morning. We'll move on to item number 4, which is an ordinance concerning. ordinance concerning the authority to enter into and execute and intergovernmental agreement with the Chicago Park. Park District for the vision of tax increment financing funds for improvements at Bessemer Park located at 8930 South mske and Avenue in the Seventh Ward. Um, we are joined today by Beth O'Reilly from the Chicago Park District. the Chicago Park District to give a presentation on this project. Good morning, Beth. Thanks. for changing For changing drivers, so just hold on 1 second. the The team Beth is going to present on Park District. See you there. Let me get where you are. Okay. Hi for the record. My name is Beth O'Reilly. I'm the deputy budget director for the Chicago Park District. Nice to see many of you. to see many of you again and nice to meet the new aldermen. Alders. I guess this is the new word. Um, as I said, I'm from the Chicago Park District. haven't been here for a while, but been here for a while. But uh, we are here today for Bessemer Park. It's a site Improvement project in Alderman Mitchell. Mitchell's Ward. We are going to we are going to um transform this park. Uh, it is a located in the south, Chicago. Chicago Community. It's a regional park. It's 20.2 Acres. The park Fieldhouse is an A-Class facility. constructed in 1905 and features 2 gyms the boxing gym multipurpose rooms. multipurpose rooms the outdoor amenities include Gardens artificial. artificial surf artificial turf soccer field hand. artificial surf artificial turf soccer field handball swimming pool spray feature tennis court. swimming pools spray feature tennis courts and a huge baseball area. uh neighboring Baker College Prep and Bowen High School use the baseball fields during the baseball and softball Seasons. However, given the current condition of these fields, uh, they have to travel to do their official play games. This is only a practice field. games. This is only a practice field for them newly rented baseball diamonds will allow Bessemer to serve as the school's home field. school's home field and these upgrade field upgraded Fields will be available. will be available for Community leagues and new programs like t-ball and little league during the summer months. um, the proposed scope of the Tif funded projects Um, the proposed scope of the Tif funded projects, uh will rebuild the baseball diamond 1 of them. rebuild the baseball diamond 1 of them and uh reshape the infield. infield and Outfield by removing smaller unused diamonds. and back stops. the Tif ball field reprogramming project will supplement the project and that is currently under design and is now funded with the Chicago Cubs charities. contribution of 150,000 and the Morgan Wallen. contribution of 150,000 and the Morgan Wallen Foundation, which can that Foundation contrib. which can that Foundation contributed dollars Last Summer. together Together these Partners have provided the necessary funding to improve. to improve Diamond number 2 at the park. We will apply the Tif funding to expand that project and renovate diamond. Tif funding to expand that project and renovate Diamond 1 and also improve the field Lighting on both. and also improve the field Lighting on both diamonds. aside from the ball Field improvements the Tiff investment will include the replacement of the water feature the existing spray feature will be out. existing spray feature will be outfitted with new infrastructure including new. infrastructure, including new Surface and interactive play elements. You can see this, uh park has quite a few ball field. fields Diamond number 1 and Diamond number 2 will remain all of the others will be removed. So all of that Outfield work will Scoop up all that and reach her the field. um those diamonds you can see you can't really Um those diamonds you can see you can't really effectively play you're playing on top of each other. So it's pretty dangerous the way it is. dangerous the way it is, uh set up the photo on the left is uh, Diamond 1 and 2 you can see there's sort of uh, Diamond 1 and 2, you can see there's sort of adjacent and um, this is the existing uh, bleacher seating for the fans. Um as it exists now, um, these are the player benches so we will totally rebuild this poor concrete put the GR. rebuild this poor concrete put the gravel. It'll make it like a great place to play ball. Um, this is the existing. Um, this is the existing spray feature. This was built in the 80s. Uh, and it's we don't build this style anymore. And in fact, we're trying to replace as many of these. And in fact, we're trying to replace as many of these as possible. Um, they are you wouldn't want to fall on that concrete. We'll just so. this is sort of what we're This is sort of what we're putting in. This is a style of the interactive spray feature. the interactive spray feature that are going in and quite a few of our parks that blue thing will whip around and the water sprays. It's fun. They it's interactive and it turns on and off. Whereas now the spray features once they turn on they're on for the season. The renovated ball fields will resemble this 1 this looks like it's a Turf infield. We are doing grass but the fact that the um, that the um side wings and back stops. that the um side wings and back stops and player benches and the running. surface for the Baseline will look like this as opposed to what uh, the existing condition is right now. As I mentioned the Cubs are contributing 15000 through. their Diamond grant program and the Morgan Wallen. Foundation was here and they picked this project out of all the projects. the projects we presented, uh as a community. the projects we presented, uh as a community in need and uh, they're supporting youth activities like baseball. We the Tif money is going to put 500,000 dollar. We the Tif money is going to put 500,000 dollars in the Ballfield piece to pull up the remaining. um Fields lighting and uh necessary fencing the spray feature will be removed and replaced for dollars and then the $50,000 will do um access improvements to the improved facilities, uh and Landscape restoration where we have construction so that is 50,000 bringing the budget for 7. is 50,000 bringing the budget for 750,000 for this project. Thank you Beth. Thank you Beth Alderman, Mitchell. Thank you chair. Um. this uh this this uh, this is 1 of the parks that growing up in the This uh, this is 1 of the parks that growing up in the uh, 700s and 80s that I played Little League. and as we hit the N, that's how it looked when we were growing up and um when you hit the 90s deferred maintenance set in and and it just the set in and and just the the direction of Lily took a turn. so it is really excited for me exciting for me to to So it is really excited for me exciting for me to to now be in a position to work with the park. in a position to work with the park district in our in in other funders to uh, bring this park back to life and also playing. playing for kimwood, uh Braun. playing for kimwood. Uh Broncos we play born in in a tour. We we played at this field. I mean it was it was better than the field. than the field that Kenwood had and now Ken Woodsfield is is a lot better than this 1 so I'm glad we have the opportunity to bring this. opportunity to bring this field back to life and to start the ball. the ball rolling to get 1 of the 4. literally programs back in our parks Literally programs back in our Parks again. This is this kind of sentimental to me because this is this is where myself and a lot of the guys I grew up with. myself and a lot of the guys I grew up with, uh battled over here and then they end up battling Jackie Robinson West that we could never beat but now but again, I I I urge you guys to ask you guys to support this, uh this project. you guys to ask you guys to support this, uh this project and um, thank you. Thank you Alderman Mitchell Beth. I have a question on. Thank you Alderman Mitchell Beth. I have a question on the uh. Private dollars how aggressive is the park district? securing private dollars and how do you determine where those dollars go? Uh, well our main fun. Uh, well our main fun for the uh, Ballfield programs. Uh, well our main fun for the uh, Ballfield programs stick with ball fields or in general. I I your focus here on Your focus here on uh ball fields, but I'm focused. Okay facilities. Who? Pools everything yeah pools. Um, well, we'll just start with ball fields. Uh, we rely on a lot of outside fun. ball fields. Uh, we rely on a lot of outside funding as you guys know, we we Bond about 30 to 35 million dollars for our Capital program. Um, and at this point we have 519 playgrounds we have I can't even tell you how many baseball diamonds we have a ton. So. ton. So Cubs Charities was our primary spawns. ton. So Cubs Charities was our primary sponsor for um, The Diamond Grant programs. Diamond Grant programs this funding uh is their last right now they are looking to do maintenance on the now, they are looking to do maintenance on the baseball diamonds. They are not. Um, moving forward with quite a few of the applications that we're uh submitted for the last round of funding. we're uh submitted for the last round of funding they're changing directions. Um, but that process was competitive. Um, we went with our partners all the baseball assoc. partners all the baseball associations. They know about the Cubs program we would go to Cubs program. We would go to our regional managers and say where are the baseball diamond? where are the baseball diamonds that have active projects or act? or active teams that the facilities are in need? or active teams that the facilities are in need and let's encourage them the for the Cubs money. encourage them the for the Cubs money the baseball association had to Submit for them funding we we couldn't do it ourselves. We needed the baseball team to do it in this case the school did it? they went to the Cubs and said we need your help out and do you get a lot of uh private dollars for other? part facilities or Park programs Part facilities or Park programs private know. Um, we Part facilities or Park programs private know um, we get the past. contribute when they fund like dog areas or outdoor Fitness or something that wouldn't really fall in our spectrum of yeah. We got to get that done. yeah, we got to get that done. Can we get from you through the chair? the chair a list of the private? entities that fund the park district and what they Usually fund that we can. usually fund that we can sure because maybe some of us can go knock on some of those. go knock on some of those doors for our Parks. Yeah privy. go knock on some of those doors for our Parks. Yeah private is hard. We I mean, like I said, we don't get very much at all like we had um, Yeah, but that'll be a short list. Sure. Yeah, but that'll be a short list. Sure Alderman Taylor. Thank you madam chair, so I'm going to for support this because it's in. because it's in Alderman Mitchell's War. But what I want to say is where is the data to prove this Tif dollars that? all are asking us to spend I feel like sometimes upgrade Parks without having a clear conversation. upgrade Parks without having a clear conversation with without asking the community actually what it wants. without asking the community actually what it wants and so I have Washington Park I have I have Washington Park. I have like 4 Parks Washington Park didn't ask for a soccer. uh field uh Fields, but they're there that's not what the community asks for and we need to figure out how to Rebrand the park district because the amount of money that we're spending. district because the amount of money that we're spending to upgrade these Parks. We don't know the data of folks who are actually in those spaces and so are actually in those spaces. And so and if we're spending our Tif dollars to help Park, our Tif dollars to help Parks out, which of course we'll all do we want to make sure that people are actually in them and that's not what I'm seeing. them and that's not what I'm seeing that I'm not seeing people in the park district somet people in the Park District. Sometimes y'all keep the same supervisors 2030 years. supervisors 2030 years who don't get that the community is changed and so I want at some point the park district to come. come and present to us about what's the plan City because I feel like y'all pick and choose what parks y'all actually want to upgrade and do and so there are some framework going on in Washington Park. framework going on in Washington Park which all the parks should be doing framework that that's the park district should be doing that as a whole. should be doing that as a whole and we should be doing more reaching out to communities to ask what actually what they want to see. um, I I respect and appreciate um Um, I I respect and appreciate um Alderman Mitchell saying this was a park that young people play. this was a park that young people play baseball young people do stuff the folks who play baseball in Washington Park a lot of times. They're not from Washington. Park a lot of times. They're not from Washington Park. It's the closest park they can go to community may or may not. community may or may not want and so at some point I want the park district to come. us as a whole. us as a whole about. How are we rebranding the park? the state and the federal level as well. Thank you. Thank you madam. Chair. Thank you Alderman Taylor Alderman Scott. um, just because I've had Um, just because I've had a lot of experience in the park. Um, I I would say that you know, many many. Um, I I would say that you know, many many parks who received Tiff Received Tiff, um and how the park allocate their money to go to a general. go to a general fund, uh, for instance. go to a general fund, uh, for instance, um in the 24th Ward, we have Riot Fest. Ward, we have Riot Fest Riot Fest spend 790,000 for a per permit that does not include. Security that's not include garbage. Um Security that's not include garbage, um trash because they have to pick up their own trash and have their own security. security, uh, the Chicago police come out because it is a big um venue, but it doesn't require Park staff. So, um, When you affect a park and a community. when you affect a park and a community at least 55% of that money should come back to the park and then it goes to the general fund and so will we have uh, uh, general fund and so will we have uh, uh conference stations that can't be used to people that are playing. that can't be used to people that are playing in the park regularly if that money was generated for the past 8 years that Rya Fest has had their fair share in the park, um with a lot of uh, community folks that don't live in the community to say that they don't want Rye Fest there. But Rye Fest generates a lot of money for the park. money for the park, but that money does not come back to Douglas Park if we can allocate some of that. Douglas Park if we can allocate some of that money to come back then we wouldn't necessarily have to use Tiff for various Parks because that money would be various Parks because that money will be allocated to the neighborhoods in which it includes. neighborhoods in which it includes so suggestion to take back. Um, I think that you know, they allocate put up 6% 7966 of 790 would do nothing for a park. any of Any of our Parks because they they are quite old and you know. know Antiquated so, uh, just a suggest know Antiquated. So, uh just a suggestion that I wanted to put that on record that something like that need. happen. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you Alderman Lawson. Thank you madam. Thank you madam chair. I just wanted to commend um Beth O'Reilly and my colleague from the Seventh Ward on getting big money from the Cubs. Um Morgan Wallen played there. I think last summer. think last summer and so uh quarter mil is a way to go and as someone who has had to rely on private donations, uh understand how challenging it could be and we're fortunate to have resources like the Cubs for ball fields, right? And uh, the uh the Hawks and and and others that that focus on Sports ironically the only uh baseball diamond in my ward is at Wrigley Field. I don't have any in the Parks. They're all just north or south but just north or south. But um, I think we have to be more creative about what we talked about private. creative about what we talked about private dollars as we talk about changing the way we're using Tif. talk about changing the way we're using Tif specifically, um and have a real you know City um and have a real, you know, Citywide probably focus on where We can leverage those dollars. So congrats on this good project. Thank you. Thank you. Hearing no other questions motion made by Alder. Hearing no other questions motion made by Alderman OSHA. recommending to pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and this motion will be uh recommendation will be reported out. uh recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting item number 5. council meeting item number 5 is an ordinance concerning an amendment to the intergo. amendment to the intergovernmental agreement with the Chicago Park District for the provision. Chicago Park District for the provision of tax increment financing funds for the improvements at mcguane Park located at 2901 South Pope large. mcguane Park located at 2901 South Poplar Avenue in the 11th ward, bethl r 11th ward Beth O'Reilly. Uh again, thank you. Uh, this is uh an amendment to the agreement for mcwain Park. Um, you've ever been there park is up great. It's beautiful. It's is up great beautiful. It's been open for a while. Uh, this is an amendment to extend the date of the agreement. Um, if you've ever experienced, uh public Contracting the closeout period is very lengthy and we um, closeout period is very lengthy and we um closed out that contractor this job last May contractor this job last met um, unfortunately when we went into sea reimbursement for the final expenses for this project, project the department of planning noted that they not reimburse the park district for El not reimburse the park district for eligible expenses because the agreement has expired so this uh legislation is extending the Legislation is extending the grant agreement to get them to be able to. be able to pay us the last bit of fun Funding um, the Park is open. It's beautiful. Funding um, the Park is open. It's beautiful as you can see you can scroll through the see you can scroll through the photos. It's um extremely popular. I'm sure Alder. popular. I'm sure Alderman Lee can tell you it's uh, it was a very successful project. Uh, we It was a very successful project. Uh, we just um Takes a long time to close these. takes a long time to close these out and the base agreement. no longer has that expiration date. Um agreement. No longer has that expiration date. Um this 1 was tied to the original expiration of the Tif I believe or maybe not um, and but in any case we need this agreement to just extend it out, I think just extend it out. I think on the books, um, it just received a payment they went through and everything that was hammer in the wood before that date was reimbursed and I think uh to date there's like $400,000 remaining to be paid on a 5.7 million dollar project. so that is um what we're doing we can just So that is um what we're doing we can just scroll through. This is just where we landed with the project. This is just where we landed with the project with the budget. Um, like I said, it's completely open and has been open for years. This is just sort of a snafu that we did not. This is just sort of a snafu that we did not catch the date. I I want to clear up. date. I I want to clear up the pending payment. Um, you said 400,000? Yeah, we got a small 1 from that 8. said 400,000? Yeah, we got a small 1 from that 800 when I originally presented this. We got a payment last week, which Kind of trees me. Okay. Well, I should have been notified about that. Sorry. about that. Okay, sorry hand, okay. all right Alderman, uh, lee Thank you chairwoman. Um. The the park improvements are amazing. I I was predated me. Um, but um, I we certainly make good use of this park this park is regularly 1 of our highest util. park is regularly 1 of our highest utilized parks in the ward. Um picture on the top right is actually where early voting um takes place so, voting um takes place. So, um, you know, we we get a lot of really great. really great use out of this. Um, we have programs, really great use out of this. Um, we have programs here for uh, our um, Special Olympics athletes that meet here regularly as well. Um was happy to support the the extension of the original contract to ensure that the park district was reimbursed. Thank you. So yeah, we've been we've been using every single penny of that getting a lot out of it. Thank you. out of it. So thank you. Yes nicely. Yeah. Are there any questions from members of the committee seeing no questions? no questions motion made by Alderman kuden recommend? no questions motion made by Alderman kuden recommending due pass all those in favor signify by saying. pass all those in favor signify by saying I opposed in the opinion of the chair. opinion of the chair the eyes have it and the due pass recommendation for this. recommendation for this will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Uh the last 1 from the park. Uh, the last 1 from the park district is item number 6, which is an Orden. which is an ordinance concerning the First Amendment to the intergovernmental. intergovernmental agreement with the Chicago Park District for the provision of tax increment financing funds for the construction. construction of Park 599. construction of Park 599 at 1623 West Edgewater Avenue. construction of Park 599 at 1623 West Edgewater Avenue in the 40th Ward. Okay, here we are. This is for Park 599 um this Okay, here we are. This is for Park 599. Um, this is a a new build a new project this new build a new project. This was uh tied to the located, uh in the Edgewater Community. It's a smaller. Park. It's 1.1 acres and its adjacent to the newly developed Anderson point developed Anderson Point apartment complex at 5700, North Ashland. Ashland Avenue. uh the housing Uh, the housing occupies the portion of the site. Uh, the housing occupies the portion of the site that was formerly known as the Edgewater Hospital. The park is located. Just west of the new housing site. located. Just west of the new housing site between Edgewater Avenue to the north and Hollywood. Edgewater Avenue to the north and Hollywood to the South. the commitment to develop this new The commitment to develop this new park was included in the Redevelopment plan and author. Redevelopment plan and authorizing ordinance that was passed by City Council on May 23rd 2018 the agreement specified. specified that the land and 96000 were to be provided to the park district for the development of the new park. the developers obligation have been The developers obligation have been satisfied and the project was transferred to the park district. project was transferred to the park district in february of 23. So we are obviously you heard in the other housing present. presentations facing great cost escalation. This was estimated. estimated in 2018. Now we're in 2024. estimated in 2018. Now we're in 2024, um while the housing site, uh was in development the park district with active Community input has locked in the site development plan as you can see it's you can see, it's pretty basic. There's a walking path. There's landscaped areas. There's landscaped areas, uh, picnic tables and benches a walking path drinking. walking path drinking fountain ornamental perimeter fencing and open land and lands open lawn and landscaping. and open land and lands open lawn and landscaping in 2023 the cost for this plan. the cost for this plan, uh was costed at 1.4 million. the cost for this plan, uh was costed at 1.4 million 1.410. uh, which is a Uh, which is a 450 dollars increase from the 2018 budget. The park district is seeking approval to increase. The park district is seeking approval to increase the Tif budget to complete the park as obligated in. Redevelopment agreement. Um, you can scroll. Through did you? Through did you get to the photos that wasn't following you? Um of what it looks like? you? Um of what it looks like now? It's uh, has had Has had a groundbreaking. Um but this is But this is what the park looks like to have those photos. you don't. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry, it looks really bad. Um. cyclone Cyclone Fence bacon lot um, but uh, there was quite a bit of back. quite a bit of back and forth, I believe um, when this project When this project was finished on the housing side within the city making sure. the city making sure that they had complied with all of the obligations in the Redevelopment. Um relative. obligations in the Redevelopment, um relative to vaults and sidewalks. I just know that really complicated. Oh shoot. I'm sorry, you know. Okay, I changed the slide. Um. Okay, I changed the slide. Um, I didn't give it to them. I sent it to you didn't send it to me. Uh, sorry, I don't know how to get it over there. um the The chair had asked me to break out where the new costs were. were coming in. That's where it was. But um, so were coming in. That's where it was. But um so design we um had an increase of 64,000. The total design is 131. I'm really sorry. You don't have the slide General conditions. Uh, we have an 85,000 budget. have an 85,000 budget now when it went out to contractor the construction went from 675 to now the million. the construction went from 675 to now the million 61. for the 385,000 increase and um the For the 385,000 increase and um, the contingency is still in the budget which we will draw from. in the budget which we will draw from hopefully we won't need it and if we we get reimbursed on exact dollars spent, so if we don't spend it all we don't get the money. So the increase in the uh, project cost is basically because the design became Became more involved. Is that correct? Alderman cost of labor cost? labor cost of all of it actually went out. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's still pretty basic. Um, it didn't not in design. Um, it's still the same footprint. It's still a walking path and picnic tables. There were no added elements know. elements. No, no spray features. There are no It's passive. It is a passive open space. Alderman Vasquez Thank thank you for that. Yeah, if members uh, look at the current. current slide, it's always looked like that kidney bean so it's not really the most complex of designs. It's just been an increase in the cost. A lot of it was just time spent so So this is something that uh, my predecessor. So this is something that uh, my predecessor Alderman Pat Connor had passed towards the end of the term. Um, there had been a ton of work at Edgewater what? had been a ton of work at Edgewater what used to be the Edgewater Medical Center. It's a process that I think to. over 12 years to even get that site developed. This is kind of finishing that up. Um, it would be called. of finishing that up. Um, it would be called West Edgewater green. Um, but because it's taken that long. Um, we do know also the park district had some staff changes that kind of you know, and I could be a little bit wrong, but so many so many things come to the points where process. we're taking it because we run the We're taking it because we run the parks for the city. Uh, but new construction wouldn't have been. but new construction wouldn't have been something on our radar to develop. radar to develop this site. Um, Is the park completed? Is the park completed now know? Oh, it's not even but it's says it was. oh, it's not even but it's says it was trained the developers obligation satisfying the transferred to the park district. Is that for construction the land? title the land Title the land. Okay, you guys can start now happened in 23. We were committed in 2018. They had to build because they were staging here then they had to fix the public infrastructure fill the vaults. infrastructure fill the vaults do the sidewalks and all of that all of that wrapped up. that all of that wrapped up and then I think was it. I think was it planning and I can speak to this it was. I think was it planning and I can speak to this. It was uh a a cluster once I showed up. So what it a a cluster once I showed up. So what occurred was. technically the developer owned the land they Technically the developer owned the land they had to finish certain work that the tip had to pay off. They had to check every single box to get that done to get. every single box to get that done to get the Tif funding. They were supposed to be reimbursed for at that. They were supposed to be reimbursed for at that point the city had to acquire it from the developer. city had to acquire it from the developer and then the park district had to acquire from the city. district had to acquire from the city that all took our whole Our whole first term to get from the beginning of that until where we're at now. So right now if you look at it, it looks like a rock. looks like a rock quarry with what could be a racing track somewhere in it. It's a it's a mess. And so we're looking to get this completed. to get this completed close the chapter on it. So the park district could focus on Park. district could focus on Park 600. Uh, that's that's what we're looking to do 5. that's what we're looking to do 5.99. Yeah, I'm saying after this 1's done. They can go get 6. Yeah, I'm saying after this 1's done. They can go get 6 you want the next 1? Yeah, wonderful. I'm all set. Thank you. madam chair. Thank you. I seeing no more questions. madam chair. Thank you. I seeing no more questions Alderman Mitchell moves to pass on. Mitchell moves to pass on this item all those in favor signify by saying I in the opinion of the ch in the opinion of the CH opposed in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and we will report the due pass recommendation out. recommendation out at the next city council meeting. Thank you Beth. Thank you. Uh item number 7 is from the Department of planning. It's an ordinance concerning. an ordinance concerning and Amendment to the Redevelopment agreement. agreement with the Chicago cooperative for the provision. agreement with the Chicago cooperative for the provision of tax increment financing funds for the rehab. tax increment financing funds for the rehabilitation of the building and related Improvement. building and related improvements at 4620 North Broadway. the 46th Ward. There is a substitute ordinance which was prepared and sent electronically. prepared and sent electronically to everyone. Is there a motion to accept the substitute so moved by alderman laspada all those in favor signify by saying I although suppose, uh, in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and the substitute ordinance is and we'll be explained by Tim Jeffries the man. And we'll be explained by Tim Jeffries the managing Deputy Commissioner with the Department of planning. Development Tim. I do need you to explain the uh change in the substitute ordinance and then your presentation. Uh, I yes the substitute for the record Tim Jeffries, man. Deputy Commissioner in the department of Planning and Development the Development The Substitute ordinance just corrects an error that was error. That was uh 1 of the 1 of that was uh 1 of the 1 of the references referred to section 18.21, which is not exist. section 18.21, which is not exist in this RDA. It was meant to reflect section. to reflect section 18.14. Thank you. Um, well good morning, uh chair. Um, well good morning, uh chair chair chair Dao members of the finance committee again, Tim Jeffries. Planning and Development. I'm here today to request the amendment of a previously approved Redevelopment agreement between the city and Chicago. between the city and Chicago Cooperative. It would restructure the financial terms of the agreement in order to to reimburse the developer. to to reimburse the developer, uh in advance of the pending expiration of the Wilson yards. pending expiration of the Wilson yards TIF district, if approved dpd, um would immediately move to execute uh the agreement in order to support the development. agreement in order to support the development of an approximately 18,000 square foot grocery. approximately 18,000 square foot grocery store cooperative. um, uh Chicago Market, which is doing or Chicago Cooperative, which is doing business as the Chicago Market is located at 16 or 4. is located at 16 or 4620 North Broadway within the Uptown community area. community area the Wilson yards TIF district in the 46 Ward. um the subject property Um, the subject property highlighted in red is at the northwest corner of the intersection of Wilson. northwest corner of the intersection of Wilson Avenue and Broadway and is the former CTA. Broadway and is the former CTA station house, uh and is which is immediately north of the existing. which is immediately north of the existing Wilson Red Line Station. Uh, the building was originally constructed in 192. Uh, the building was originally constructed in 1922 as the Station House for the Northwestern elevated Railroad. Station House for the Northwestern elevated railroad, uh in this photo you can see the original stairs that led pass. passengers up to the platform. Uh, it was in this capacity until 2017. Uh when the CTA opened a new Wilson Station, uh, immediately across the remained vacant since that time, uh, designated a city of Chicago Landmark as a contributing building. building in the Uptown Square historic district in 2016. Uh, the developer of this project is Chicago cooperative. doing business as uh, the Chicago Market Cooperative grocery. grocery store, uh, this the project involves the full interior. interior buildout of the space as an 18,000 square foot full. full service grocery store operating as a locally owned cooperative. Cooperative, uh, Chicago Market assumed possession of the building. building as a cold shell so the scope of work includes the construction. construction of all required Building Systems including HVAC electrical. HVAC electrical and plumbing as well as their business specific improvements like ref. specific improvements, like refrigerators, uh, in addition to the store the project will also include the development of a kitchen classroom and Studio. of a kitchen classroom and Studio that will be used for classes demonstrations and other community. classes demonstrations and other community uses Um, I'll note that the Chicago Market. Um, I'll note that the Chicago Market, um has developed an extremely strong team around the project. extremely strong team around the project including 1, um 1 of the country's most prominent grocery Consultants. of the country's most prominent grocery Consultants storm Masters, uh to design and build the stores. Masters, uh to design and build the stores, um, hiring uh management staff with extensive grocery. management staff with extensive grocery Co-op experience and creating an extremely active board. uh the total Uh, the total, uh project cost for the construction is an estim. estimated 10.7 million, uh this represents. estimated 10.7 million, uh, this represents an increase of approximately 2 million since it was a previously by city council. Um, I will note that the developer has not requested that the city provide any additional Tif funding to it and address that increase though. Uh up to 5.8 million dollars of that budget or 54% proposed to come from Tiff, uh, the remaining funds include. 950,000 in equity as well as 3.9 million in lending financing. Uh, it should be also noted that Chicago Market is contributing an additional 1 million dollars to the project in operating costs that are not reflected in the RDA. Um, however since the approval of the original um, however since the approval of the original RDA and December of 2022 a critical issue has been identified that necessitates, uh, an amendment to the RDA that requires Council action, um, specifically the Rd Council action. Um, specifically the RDA is currently structured to reimburse the developer with City funds over. 2 payments the first at the issuance of their certificate of completion and the second a year later at the anniversary. the anniversary of the issuance of the certificate. I'm following Council approval. Uh delays outside of the developers control. And while these issues are. issues are now resolved. They've pushed back the estimated completion date to the first quarter of 2025 the Wilson Yard. yards TIF district. However is scheduled to expire on December. December 31st of 2025, which would legally preclude the city from making the second payment, um in order to address this dpd is requesting an amendment of the payment structure. structure that would provide Chicago market with the the with all funding, uh, immediately following the issuance of completion. Uh, this would allow the city to disperse its funding. funding prior to the expiration of the fifth district. Uh, this amendment will modify only that structure of how city will make its payment and no other changes will be made to the alloc. made to the allocation provided or the obligations of the developer under the RDA including any required Community benefits. uh if the amendment Uh, if the amendment is approved the dpd anticipates the RDA will be executed. RDA will be executed as early as April and begin construction immediately thereafter. construction immediately thereafter, uh, once complete this rendering shows what the interior of the space is expected to look like, uh, I'll note that you can see the former staircase or stair stairway. staircase or stair stairway up to the platform and the design here and it's 1 of the it's 1 of the few features, uh, historic features that it's being in, uh, historic features that it's being incorporated into the overall design of the store. uh overall dpd is supportive of this of the Chicago Market of cooperative and this request, uh, the project will not only increase the resiliency of the Uptown neighborhoods. Grocery Market, but also provide numerous Community benefits. benefits increase Community Based wealth and stabilize the city of Chicago. city of Chicago Landmark for all of those reasons dpd believes the project. believes the project warrants, uh, this the approval of this amendment. Uh, I'd like to thank the committee for your consideration of this request and I'm joined by Matthew roughy from Chicago Market team, and I'm happy to answer any questions. uh, the committee might have Yes, um. I would like the uh represent. I would like the uh representative from the Chicago carpet to speak. This is the first time I actually have heard of uh this operation went to your website. this operation went to your website and checked it out. Uh would like to hear your perspective on what you're trying to do in Chicago. Thank you very much. Uh for the record Matthew, roughy. the president and board chair for Chicago Market community. Cooperative. Um, thank you for the opportunity. Thank you for the opportunity to talk about this we were excited. Uh excited, uh, you know oftentimes you see Cooperative grocery stores open. grocery stores open in food apart Tides or food deserts or food areas. food areas such as that Uptown is not exactly that. food areas such as that Uptown is not exactly that what we did have a limited uh ability to get did have a limited, uh ability to get was good food what we had the limited ability to we had the limited ability to get was food that stayed local and was sourced locally right now we have over 90 mus with uh farmers in, Illinois. mus with uh farmers in Illinois that are going to be supplying to our Store, we're also working with other stores both cooperatives and Nono. cooperatives and non-operative to help to be almost an anchor store. anchor store if if you had a mall you need an anchor store to help to bring stuff like that in we're really excited to be able to give Farmers a reason to come to Chicago to bring their products into Chicago. Uh, we're working with a great group of farmers down in Pembroke, uh, if you're not familiar with them, um, absolutely look them up. They're a group. group of farmers that need that help and they haven't had the opportunity. the opportunity to be able to sell in the city at the levels that they should they're fantastic farmers. And we that we think that we can do a lot to help to elevate them to make sure that we're buying from them at reasonable rates sustainable. reasonable rates sustainable rates something that allows them to have these Farms stay in a multi-generational state. separate from Separate from that we're looking to create 75 jobs in the Uptown community. Uptown Community as I think you all know when you spend. locally more of your dollar stays local and so by being a community Co-op and if you're not familiar with cooperative, we're owned by the community. We're not owned by a corporation. Um all of the board all of the members. corporation. Um all of the board all of the members, we're all volunteer and so all of us do all volunteer. And so all of us do not receive anything from these funds. It's just about making this happen. from these funds. It's just about making this happen in our community. So we're really excited to have that. so we're really excited to have that to have a democratic solution to a store where actually our purchasing values. Uh, all of our sustainability commitments are actually brought to you by the ownership that we have currently we have about 2400 owners and those owners are have about 2400 owners. And those owners are all paying do they they've actually paid in they've bought shares in the company and they have a voice in it. They elect me they elect our whole board and they have a say in exactly what we do so we do. So we think between what Tim had mentioned with educational opportunities within the city within that area, um in our space community opportun um in our space Community opportunities for them to use the rooms to be able to use that for fuel rooms to be able to use that for further education, um, and then utilizing programs such as having snap available link match and things of that nature will be a great commitment to the community and to continue to bring good. affordable food into our community. Thank you. Do you have the capacity to uh, look elsewhere in the city? We do not so we did a EXT. We do not so we did a extensive search. Uh, we were initially incorporated in. initially Incorporated in 2013. Um, and we did an extensive search in a lot of different areas. We looked in the areas we we areas. We looked in the areas. We we were always intended to be in North Chicago area. Um, but we looked at probably 12 to 13. 12 to 13 different spaces when we found this 1 which both hit from the level of a size that we needed to be able to do to really be able to make the difference. do to really be able to make the difference but also to be able to work with CTA that it just re read able to work with CTA that it just re redone this project gave us this empty shell and it really committed. gave us this empty shell and it really committed to making this not just another store that was going to be held by any I'm sorry. Chances know the answer is no. Yes. Thank you. Vice chair Conway you had a Thank you. Thank you. Uh, we do have a letter. Uh, we do have a letter of support from Alderman clay. This is in her Ward. is in her Ward, uh, seeing no other questions, uh Alderman not hopping words. Thank you chair. I just wanted to also express my support for this project, and I wanted to thank Matthew. for this project and I wanted to thank Matthew for being a great. great um partner in the community and for showing up. for many people many events. And uh, I'm I'm just thrilled to see this. to see this actually coming together and happening and um, I'm just happy for you. Thank you chair. Thank you very much. much Alderman Cardona recommends do much Alderman. Cardona recommends do pass all those in favor signify by saying I Opposed and the opinion of the chair the eyes. opposed and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and the motion carries and we will make this uh recommendation. We'll report this recommend. We'll report this recommendation out at the next city council meeting. council meeting item number 8 is an Orden council meeting item number 8 is an ordinance concerning and Amendment to the Redevelopment agreement with Portage Park Capital LLC. Park Capital LLC for the provision of tax increment financing Tif. financing Tif funds for the construction. of the project Of the project and related improvements at 365. Of the project and related improvements at 3657 North Central in the 30th. Central in the 30th Ward. Tim, uh, thank you ciao again for the record Tim. managing Deputy Commissioner in the department of planning and development. and Development. I'll just note that the fact pattern and the reason for this amendment is substantially similar to the last item, uh, the last item. Uh, but this this seeks to the amend a previously approved RDA between the city and Portage Park. Capital LLC, it would restructure the financial terms. that agreement in order to reimburse the developer before the pend. the pending expiration of the Belmont Central TIF district on December. on December 31st of 2024. Uh, the project is located at 3657. Uh, the project is located at 3657 North Central Avenue and is within the Portage Park Community area. is within the Portage Park Community area the Belmont Central TIF district and the 30th Ward represent. Central TIF district and the 30th Ward represented by Alder Ruth Cruise. Uh, the subject property highlighted in red is located at the South East. the south east corner of the Central Avenue in Waveland Avenue. Uh, the site was most recently occupied by a Dominic's grocery. Dominic's grocery store, which closed in 2004 with subsequently demolished. subsequently demolished and remained vacant since that time. uh, the project involves the Redevelopment of the Uh, the project involves the Redevelopment of the parcel into an approximately 12. into an approximately 122000 square foot mixed-use development containing 12,000 square feet of ground floor retail with a self storage facility. retail with a self storage facility on the upper floors, uh as stated this project was uh, as stated this project was originally approved by City Council in May of 2020. So construction of the of the project is was substantially complet. project is was substantially completed in mid 2023. uh, the total project cost for the the construction was estimated, uh, 12.5 million including up to 3.3 million in Tif or 26.5% of the project budget the remaining funds included. included 2.2 million in equity and 7 million in financing. uh since the original approval of the RDA, uh, as I said in addition, this critical issue has been identified that necessitates. necessitates an amendment to the RDA that requires Council approval. Um, specifically the RDA is currently structured. to reimburse the developer with 2 payments. Uh, the first that the ISS. that the issuance of the certificate of completion and the second a year later at the anniversary of the issuance, uh, follow. following city council approval. However, the project experience delays related to co especially Supply Supply supply chain disruptions and labor. supply chain disruptions and labor shortages. Um, these issues have been resolved. issues have been resolved and the developer is now working actively working to secure the certificate of completion. Uh, but the Belmont Tiff Central TIF district is currently scheduled to expire on December 31st. scheduled to expire on December 31st of 2024, which would legally preclude the city from dispersing the second payment in order to address. This dpd is requesting an amendment of the payment struct. amendment of the payment structure that would provide Portage Park Capital with all uh, funding following the issuance of the certificate of complet. allow the city to disperse. of the Tif. I'll note that this amendment modifies only the structure of how the city will make its payment. how the city will make its payments and no other changes are being made including to the allocation provided. are being made including to the allocation provided, uh, the obligations under the RDA, uh, including construction compliance or minimum minimum occup. compliance or minimum minimum occupancy requirements. uh shown Uh shown here as the property as it stands today as an operational business. Um overall dpd is supportive of this amendment given the fact that the building is already substantially complete. substantially complete, uh, and it still required to meet the terms, uh necessary. the terms, uh necessary for the city to issue the certificate of completion. Um, I'd like to thank the committee for your consideration of this. of this request, and I'm also Portage Park Capital, uh, and I'm happy to answer any questions you might have at this time. Okay, uh to reflect. Okay, uh to reflect accurately Alden cruises, uh position. on this, this is a legacy project. on this. This is a legacy project, uh that she inherited and she has no opposition to this project. any questions from members of Any questions from members of the committee? move to pass uh motion made by Alder move to pass, uh motion made by Alderman waguespack all those in favor signify by saying I all those opposed in the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and the motion carries. it and the motion carries the do pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Thank you Tim. item number 9 is an is a proposed order authorizing the payment of various small claims against the city of Chicago. It was a direct introduction sent to you electron. electronically if there are no objections the committee. will recommend passage in the Omnibus. item item number 10 is a proposed ordinance denying the payment of various small claims against the city of Chicago also a direct introduction. also a direct introduction and the list of payments, uh was sent electronically to everyone if there are no OB the committee will recommend passage in the omn. the committee will recommend passage in the Omnibus. Item number 11 is a prop. Item number 11 is a proposed order authorizing charitable solicit. solicitation on the public way tag day permits. solicitation on the public way tag day permits for miser ricordea. It's a Citywide. ricordea. It's a Citywide permit for April 24th. 2024 April 26th. 2024 in AP. 26th, 2024 in April 27th. 2024. 26th, 2024 in April 27th, 2024. Also a direct introduction if there are no objections. if there are no objections the committee will recommend passage in the omn. um item number 12 is the Um item number 12 is the communication transmitting reports of cases. of cases in which verdicts judgements and settlements. entered into for the month of februari 202. entered into for the month of februari 2024. These reports will also send electronically. will also send electronically to everyone from the Department of Law. and And if there are no objections, these reports will be placed on. on file with the city clerk's office. item number 13 Item number 13 is are 3 proposed orders. item number 13 is are 3 proposed orders authorizing The Corporation Council to enter into and execute settlement agreements or settlement. agreements or settlement orders in the following cases the first case number 13A is the estate. first case number 13A is the estate of roshad McIntosh deceased. deceased by Cynthia Lane the administrator. deceased by Cynthia Lane the administrator versus City of Chicago at all. uh case number 15 seavey 1920 and it will be reported by. and it will be reported by Carolyn bronsic from the law. Department. The amount for this settlement is 2.25 million. Carolyn good afternoon, uh for the record, my name is Caroline fronsac from the I'm 1 of the deputies. federal civil rights litigation division. I'm here to present. present the the settlement for the state of Rashad mint. Macintosh deceased by Cynthia Lane administrator versus city of Chicago. City of Chicago. It's a case that is presently pending in the United States. the United States district court for the northern district of Illinois. This case arises from a fader fatal officer involved. involved shooting that occurred on August 24th, 2014. her complaint, uh, Cynthia Lane alleges that the shooting of her son Rashad Macintosh was unjustified. of her son Rashad Macintosh was unjustified plaintiffs claims are uh account of excessive force against officer selector account of monel. selector account of monel against the city of Chicago for failure to train on foot. in a code of Sil including wrongful deaths, Illinois survival. including wrongful deaths, Illinois survival act funeral expenses responding at Superior. expenses responding at Superior, um and indemnification and Battery the Law Department recommends a settlement in the amount of 2. the amount of 2,250 inclusive of attorney's fees based on upon the recommendation of Magistrate Judge. She Finnigan. on August 24th of 2014 Chicago Police Department gang enforcement Enforcement Officers received a tip from a confidential in informant that 2 men were standing in front of 28.42. pulk Street armed with handguns next to the building. this address was a vacant lot that was known to officers. this address was a vacant lot that was known to officers as as a gang hangout and Drug spot. as a gang hangout and Drug spot upon arrivals officers not noticed about 10 to 12 men standing in front of the lot and as the officers approached. as the officers approached Rashad McIntosh who was a 19 year old African-American man whose clothing matched the description of 1 of the Armed individuals immediately fled through a gang. through a gang way to the backyard of the residents while holding his side in a manner indicating. He was carrying a gun. gun officers then ran after mint. residents according to officer schlecter. He then raised the gun and pointed it at officer selector in fear of his life officer selector. life officer selector fired 3 times Macintosh was hit once in the shoulder and once the in the chest Macintosh was handcuffed. handcuffed and ambulance was called the silver 9 millimeter hand. handgun, which was loaded with live rounds of ammunition was recovered from the porch lying near Macintosh. plaintiff's theory of this case. Is that Rashad Macintosh was on the 2800 block of West pulk with friends when a group of police? group of police officers including the defendant approached in multiple vehic? in multiple vehicles, um, according to the plaintiff without provocation and for no reason the officers jumped out of their car. out of their car as immediately Drew their weapons and pointed them at the group. pointed them at the group Macintosh ran from the officers because he was scared. Um, he was cornered on the back porch and after, porch and after the officers ordered him to do so he walked out. with his With his hands up Palms open and facing forward. Lane to will argue that even though Macintosh was clearly surrendering to the officers Officer selector shot him multiple times. multiple times playing to fully use the lack of fingerprints and DNA on the weap. fingerprints and DNA on the weapon allegedly possessed my Macintosh. Macintosh that um, that will approve Macintosh that um that will approve according to plan up that it was not his gun and that someone planted it on the scene after the shooting. also makes a monell claim against the city of Chicago which in which Squall which excuse me, which in which Squall which excuse me which Falls squarely within the time frame of the doj and Pat. the time frame of the doj and patf investigations against the Chicago Police Department. the Chicago Police Department L before rely heavily on the conclusions in both reports to establish. The city has failed to adequately trained its officers on foot Pursuits and maintain a Code of Silence. a video from the front of the location prompted Copa to open an investigation against 1 of the officers that responded to the scene officer. responded to the scene officer Sam for giving a false statement to ER. statement to era and in Discovery in the civil case because these statements were inconsistent with the video officer Sam. Sam did not have the video at the time he gave his a statement and he has since admitted that the sequence of events has described in that. events has described in that statement was inaccurate but never nevertheless. never nevertheless maintained that he saw Macintosh with a weapon off. weapon officer Sampan was standing in front of the building and claimed that he observe. and claimed that he observed. Uh, Rashad McIntosh pointing a gun. a gun at uh officer selector, but we now know from the video that officer officer Sampan was never in a position to observe those things. Copa sustained the charges against Stampin and recommended in October 2019 that he be terminated for giving false statements in the shooting incident and his original statement to Coppa and in written Discovery in this case, and it is deposition the Chicago Police Department agreed. The matter was sent to the police board. The matter was sent to the police board and officer Sam Pam resigned prior, uh to the hearing on those charges. There are also 3 alleged eyewitnesses to the shooting. All 3 months that they said that they were playing cards at a table and that they did. a table and that they did not observe Macintosh with a gun and that he was shot while surrendering a fourth witness who originally told detectives and an assistant States Attorney on the night of the shooting. Attorney on the night of the shooting that he saw McIntosh with a gun has since Rec with a gun has since recanted therefore the city recommends in this case the arrest settlement in the amount of 2. settlement in the amount of 2,250 dollars. Vice chair Conway just was was officer. Vice chair Conway just was was officer stamp and 1 of the shooters or no. No. and was a And was a gun, uh recovered at the scene. Yes. um based on the the the uh test Um based on the the the uh, testimony or the 2 officers in the gun recovery. I'd be asked to be uh, the gun recovery. I'd be asked to be uh recorded as of now on this. Thank you. What did you say? I didn't hear you? Yeah, I said. What did you say? I didn't hear you? Yeah, I said based on the uh, the the 2 officers. the uh, the the 2 officers who were the shooters and their testimony of the imminent danger that they were in as well as the recovery of the gone from the plaintiff offender. Uh, I would ask you to be recorded as a no on this. Okay. Thank you. Thank you to clarify. There was only 1 officer. That was a shooter. But he was chased by 2 officers. But he was chased by 2 officers, correct? alderman, pisado Thank you madam. Chair good afternoon to you and good afternoon to my uh Alder stalker repeat out there. Um question Caroline, um, um, this was a gang hangout where this incident happened at. the the hear you say earlier. uh, according to the police offic Uh, according to the police officer's testimony. Yes. okay, and Okay, and I didn't ask in in the briefing but was this was this an area that you we got frequent calls about 911 calls, you know. calls, you know, I have no idea. Okay. All right, and the witnesses that um witnessed the shooting I know. witnesses that um witnessed the shooting I know you said that I believe they were playing cards where they were friends of his where they were strangers where they found the street. Um, can you give me some clarification on that on the 3 Witnesses? That's on the 3 witnesses that saw the shooting? Uh, I based on my information. They I don't believe they they were friends with him. However, they did know. with him. However, they did know of the decedent. okay, uh All right. Oh and lastly and in the officer got no time for this, right? No, if red did not suspend them or correct? Thank you. Thank you madam chair. Thank you. Alderman Alderman Waggers back. Um, who are the plaintiffs attorneys on this? This is um, Andrew stroth, uh, I believe Andrew stroth. Uh, I believe Tony romanucci romanucci and Blandon and heart Aldrich. There's 3 different plaintiffs terms on this case. And what why were there 3 different? And what why were there 3 different uh firms wait 3 different attorneys or 3 different? different attorneys or 3 different firms. I think those 3 different firms 3 different plaint. different firms 3 different plaintiffs firms. I don't know why they decided to they all well, I can't ask you really they're splitting up the the settlement Settlement I'm assuming I don't know what they're doing with the settlement. Okay chairman. Can we have a roll call vote on? Okay chairman. Can we have a roll call vote on this 1? uh you asked Uh, you asked for a roll call. We'll take a roll call. Um wanted to ask, uh, the just want to be clear. wanted to ask, uh, the just want to be clear the settlement, uh was um suggested by a judge or the magistrate. Yes. We attended set several settlement. conferences on this case. Ultimately judge magistrate f Finnegan made a recommendation on this case, which both parties except parties accepted. Thank you. Okay calling the roll. Alderman Conway alderman laspada Alderman Hopkins Alderman Hall Alderman Mitchell Alderman Harris Alderman Beale Alderman Lee Alderman Ramirez Alderman Quinn Alderman Lopez Alderman Moore Alderman Curtis Alderman OSHA Alderman Taylor Alderman Mosley Alderman Rodriguez hi Alderman Scott Alderman CEO Lopez vice mayor brunette alderman Is this the settlement? Yes. Yes, this is um McIntosh mint. Yes, this is um Macintosh Macintosh. Oh, yes. Alderman Talia Farrell Alderman Cardona Alderman wag alderman waguespack Yes, okay Alderman Rodriguez. Yes, okay Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez. I want to count you towards Quorum. Did I count you toward? scorpion? Okay, Alderman Ramirez Rosa. Alderman V Alderman vagus Alderman mitts I Alderman Spa Alderman Vasquez alderman Alderman Reilly alderman kud Alderman Knudsen Alderman Martin alderman silverstreet Alderman Silverstein. Yes. chairman dowels a yes the item passes committee by a vote of 2145 against uh, we will report this out at the next city council meeting. Thank you very much Caroline. the next uh settlement 13 Settlement 13B is Rodriguez versus Guerra? settlement 13B is Rodriguez versus Guerra at all case number 18c number 18 seavey 7951 in the amount. number 18 seavey 7951 in the amount of 5.5 million we will have this. have this settlement report from uh Deputy Corporation Council Jessica Felker Good afternoon. good afternoon, uh as the chair said I'm Jessica felger. I'm deputy. I'm Deputy Corporation Council for FC RL, and I'm here to present. present Ricardo Rodriguez versus guava at all. And the law department is recommending a settlement of 5.5 million in this reverse conviction law. this reverse conviction lawsuit. This lawsuit was filed on December 3. This lawsuit was filed on December 3rd 2018 plaintiff for cardo rod. cardo Rodriguez claims that he was wrongfully convicted the the 1990 M 1995 murder of Rodney. the 1990 M 1995 murder of Rodney campen as a result of former, Chicago. former Chicago Police or he claims that he was wrongfully convicted as the result of former Chicago Police. convicted as the result of former Chicago police officers fabricating evidence withholding exculpatory evidence. fabricating evidence withholding, exculpatory evidence and charging Rodriguez maliciously. charging Rodriguez maliciously and without probable cause there's also a monell claim pending against the city. the murder The murder of Mr. Campen occurred at approximately 1:30 a.m. On December 6th 1995. He was in front of an apartment building. He was in front of an apartment building in Humble Park near Humble Park talking with. near Humble Park talking with his friend when he was killed, but in a drive-by. killed, but in a drive-by shooting a week later Rodriguez was arrested. was arrested on an unrelated charge which was eventually dropped according to reports Rodriguez became a suspect. because an anonymous caller spoke to defend. because an anonymous caller spoke to defendant Ronaldo guava and asked if Rodriguez who was then in custody was being charged with a fatal. being charged with a fatal shooting of Mr. Campen. and then And then Mr. Or then wa claims a confidential informant told him that Rodriguez. told him that Rodriguez was bragging about the committing the murder. the murder Mr. Kampen's friend. Who was an eye. the murder Mr. Kampen's friend who was an eyewitness to the shooting was shown a photo array where he thought Rodriguez looked like the shooter, but then later. looked like the shooter, but then later positively identified Rodriguez in a live lineup. another Witness another witness who is almost shot during the drive by was reported as a ten as tentatively identifying Rodriguez in a photo array and then also positively identifying Rodriguez. in a live lineup Rodriguez was subsequent. in a live lineup Rodriguez was subsequently charged. at the 1997 bench trial both of those witness testified as well as guava and Rodriguez was found guilty. and the years after the trial And the years after the trial Rodriguez challenged his conviction slowly obtaining. conviction slowly obtaining affidavits. He used to support his case. his case the witness who had himself been shot at signed 2 a Davids recanting his identification and and then alleging in the second affidavit that guava told him who to identify. That witness is now deceased. That witness is now deceased and he was not deposed in this matter. Rodriguez's mother and sister also signed affidavits Rodriguez was home with them at the time of the murder. They said that Rodriguez was on the couch at about 10. They said that Rodriguez was on the couch at about 10:30 or 11 and still there when they woke up. 11 and still there when they woke up the sister claims that she would have heard. she would have heard a door opening had he left during the night. A new witness also came forward and claimed he saw. shooter who he said was a black man and not rodrig. shooter who he said was a black man and not Rodriguez. He also said that a black police officer came. also said that a black police officer came to him and told him to leave the scene. Mr. Kenan's Friend however, still stands by his ident. identification as read re of Rodriguez as the shooter. In 2018, the state's attorney. in 2018, the state's attorney agreed to vacate Rodriguez's conviction and he conviction, and he was released after 22 years in custody. Rodriguez petitioned for a certificate of innoc. Rodriguez petitioned for a certificate of Innocence, but it was opposed by the state's attorney in the court denied. was opposed by the state's attorney in the court denied it. in this lawsuit Rodriguez claims In this lawsuit Rodriguez claims that he is innocent that he has an alibi that no physical. he has an alibi that no physical evidence ties him to the crime and the guava crime and the kava who asserted his Fifth Amendment privilege not to test. privilege not to testify in this lawsuit and hasn't been accused of framing. accused of framing dozens fabricated the anonymous tip and the confidential informant and coerced the witnesses to ident. identify Rodriguez Rodriguez believes. He was framed because of War's personal animus towards him. The defense in this case is made difficult because guava is not testifying and he is asserting the Fifth Amendment. Unfortunately his partner. Unfortunately his partner in this investigation Earnest Halverson. Halverson who would have had knowledge of the events is deceased. deceased and so he cannot provide any of the allegations. also others who would have had their calm who others who have had their convictions overturn. have had their convictions overturned and claimed to have been framed by guava will likely be permitted to testify against guava in this case. a 5.5 million A 5.5 million settlement is fiscally prudent. The settlement would be much. would be much less than the 22 to 44 million in damn. Rodriguez will likely seek a trial. if If you wins, then he will also be entitled. If you wins, then he will also be entitled to attorney's fees. We estimate that through trial. fees. We estimate that through trial plaintiffs attorneys fees would likely be 3 to 4. fees would likely be 3 to 4 million. the judge The judge like the previous case the judge in this case after a settlement. after a settlement conference recommended the parties settle at 5.5 million and that settlement was accepted by both. both parties. The city will also avoid further outside outside outside Council fees. Council fees if this sentence now, so summary judgement and expert briefing will move forward if this doesn't settle and then trial that could result in. and then trial that could result in an additional 1.5 million in million dollars in outside counsel fees. the Law Department The Law Department therefore recommends settlement in this case. Open to questions now. Thank you, Miss Falcor. Open to questions now. Thank you. Miss Falcor. I want to First acknowledge Alderman nent who is not a member of the committee, but is here. committee, but is here as well. Any questions on this 1 almond Vasquez? Yes. Thank you very much. Um, this is a pretty challeng. pretty challenging 1 for me to hear um at settlements. I just had a couple questions. Um, Where is Officer govar now? Uh, he's retired and living in, Texas. uh, he's retired and living in Texas is he is he collecting uh any pensions from the city? What's that look like uh the pension uh, the pension board would able be able to tell you definitively but it's been reported that he is. Yes. Um, next question I have is how much has the city paid out thus far for anything related to go? We've settled 2 other cases. We've settled 2 other cases and we've gone to trial and 2 other cases. Um, the the total for those cases. other cases. Um, the the total for those cases is approximately 55 million dollars. approximately 55 million dollars, um in what we paid or in what was awarded or what we settled for I what was awarded or what we settled for. I will tell you that about $4 million was covered by our insurance policies just to be accurate. Okay? Thank you for that. I think I think what's really challenging for me is in um, understanding uh, and seeing in the news. understanding uh, and seeing in the news like the what currently is happening Mr. Rodriguez. currently is happening Mr. Rodriguez and the cases for home invasion and kidnapping. Um, and then thinking about the amount of money we're paying out because amount of money we're paying now because of 1 officers amount of money we're paying now because of 1 official on the force when we bring up police. the force when we bring up police accountability cases and the costs of what is incurred by officers who shouldn't be on the force. This is an exact example of what we talked about. about and why I would love to hear for the fop or other officers to say, this is not somebody should on the force because we are paying not only Not only in the cost that we have to pay in settlements. We see about 100 million per year. If not more it's also cost in public safety because there's individuals who should be held accountable. That could be well on the streets. streets and currently have cases going on due to the lack of folks. of folks having the Integrity when they have a badge on to do the work, so I will be in support of the settlement. do the work, so I will be in support of the settlement, but I want to make sure that people are clear about why here in the first place because when we talk about police accountability, it's not being anti police or anything. It's about examples. It's about examples like officer gavara who's currently right now. right now retired in Texas collecting money. Thank you very much. Thank you. Uh Alderman Vasquez Alderman Lee thank you madam, chair, um just to follow Thank you madam, chair, um just to follow along Alderman Vasquez is a questioning are. Vasquez is a questioning. Are there any um, are there any other pending cases? other pending cases for guava? Yes, there's 33. Yes, there's 33 other pending cases against uh Ronaldo guv. guara. Calling me to know thank you. and others with more to come uh any other questions on this 1 almond Taylor? What relationship do y'all have with? What relationship do y'all have with the pitching board? How does that even work because I'm confused. does that even work? Because I'm confused on how somebody still get a pinching and you said 33? still get a pinching and you said 33 cases correct? The law department is not the pension board. It's completely separate entity. Um, they they follow the law. separate entity. Um, they they follow the law as their obligated to so I I can't answer questions for them. Oh, I didn't expect you. Should I my question was? who talks to the law who talks to the pension board because I'm confused on how he has 30. You said 33. I'm confused on how he has 30. You said 33 33 lawsuits that we are. we are either cases pending or we pay for correct? I'm I'm confused how people still get their pensions. I I'm I'm so confused. I I understand. I I'm I'm so confused. I I understand they're following the law and what they're required to. law and what they're required to do. Um, I believe the this I again I'm not an expert but I believe the only reason that they can take away a pension at this time. reason that they can take away a pension at this time by Illinois Law is if somebody is convicted of a felony arising out of their scope of employment or while they're arising out of their duties bevara has never been convicted of a felony again. I am not an expert on that so of a felony again. I am not an expert on that. So the pension board might have more to say, but that's my understanding. Thank you. Uh, seeing no other questions. Uh, seeing no other questions I have can I get a motion to move due pass on this item? So moved by Alderman Vasquez recommending to pass all those in favor. in favor signify by saying I I all those opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it. The due pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city. council meeting. Thank you very much. You you guys. our last settlement uh agree Uh agreement is uh 13 C. Uh agreement is uh, 13c Nathan Jones a minor. Uh agreement is uh, 13c Nathan Jones a minor by his guardian and mother Erica Boyd. guardian and mother Erica Boyd versus City of Chicago at all. case number 2022 l 0001735 in the amount of Case number 2022 l 0001735 in the amount of 45 million we are. are joined by uh, Deputy Corporation C are joined by uh Deputy Corporation Council Margaret Mendon Hall Casey to give us the particulars of this case. Thank Casey. Thank you chair and good afternoon committee on finance. on April 10th of 2021 Chicago police officer Perez attempted a traffic stop on a Volkswagen for a disregarding a stop sign. the Volkswagen disobeyed officer prez's signals to officer pressured the volkswage officer pressured the Volkswagen at a top speed of 67 miles per hour. per hour before turning off his Emergency Equipment and slowing. slowing down his car. second Slater the Volkswagen continued into the intersection of grand and Damon disregarded a red light. intersection of grand and Damon disregarded a red light and crashed into a Toyota. as a result of the crash Nathan Jones a 15 year old passenger in the Volkswagen was rendered permanently and totally disabled. totally disabled claiming 24/7 care for the remainder of his life. the plaintiff alleges the city through officer Perez was willful and wanting in its Pursuit. the Department of Law recommends settlements in the amount of 45 million with 25 million paid by the city's excess insurance. insurance carriers and 20 million dollars paid by the city. of Chicago. off Officer press was on patrol around 8:00 p.m. When he saw a Volkswagen driven by a kilo rags. Volkswagen driven by a kilo rags and occupied by the plaintiff Nathan Jones. the Volkswagen disregarded stop signs that Heron and Erie while on Wood Street officer Perez activated his lights and Sirens to Officer Perez activated his lights and Sirens to perform a traffic stop. the Volkswagen The Volkswagen continued on wood and officer, press exceler. accelerated to catch up. in the process In the process Perez failed to stop for stop signs at area. and Ohio while on wood. the vol the Volkswagen in turn on to Grand from wood the Volkswagen proceeded to accelerate and officer Perez followed accelerating up to a top speed of 67 miles per hour. second after the officer exting Second after the officer extinguishes extinguished his emergency lights. emergency lights and began to slow down the Volkswagen. drove through a red light at Grand and Damen. drove through a red light at Grand and Damen and crashed into a Toyota with the right of way. about 1 minute pass between officer per About 1 minute pass between officer Perez initially seeing the Volkswagen commit the traffic. the Volkswagen commit the traffic infraction and the accident. body worn camera and pod footage capture portions of Body worn camera and pod footage capture portions of the pursuit there is no in-car. pursuit. There is no in-car camera footage of the pursuit. officer Perez arrested the driver Khalil r Officer Perez arrested the driver Khalil rags and recovered a handgun from the Center Council. in total 5 occupants were in the In total 5 occupants were in the Volkswagen while some passengers init. passengers initially filed litigation. Those lawsuits have all been. all been dismissed except for Nathan Jones's. Kalo Rags the fleeing offender pled guilty to reckless driving and gun charges and has completed his 3-year sentence. Rags is a name party in this lawsuit. sentence Rags is a name party in this lawsuit the Court ruled that a jury cannot hear. ruled that a jury cannot hear evidence about the recovered gun. officer prezes Sergeant lie officer prezes sergeant lieutenant and Commander all found the pursuit violated the general orders. Nathan suffered a traumatic brain injury as a result. Nathan suffered a traumatic brain injury as a result of this accident. following a 6 week Following a 6 week hospitalization. He went to Shirley Ryan ability. ability lab for 4 months. Nathan was discharged from Shirley Ryan in October of 20. and went to a nursing home for 5 months. in March of 2022 he left the In March of 2022. He left the nursing home and went to live with his family. Nathan is nonverbal cannot dress or bathe independently and requires. requires assistance for all activities. He wears diapers and is fed through a feeding tube. Nathan's family is his primary. Nathan's family is his primary caregiver thus far approximately. approximately 2 million dollars has been expended on Nathan's Medical Care. Nathan's physic Nathan's Physicians from Shirley Ryan and Stroger believe his condition will not improve and that he has a normal life expectancy. Nathan's expert Dr. Shepard opine his permanent physical and cognitive injuries. and cognitive injuries required 24/7 nursing care for the remainder of his life. Dr. Shepard believes Nathan has a normal life expectancy. Dr. Girone Nathan's expert Life Care planner believes Nathan requires 24/7 nursing care for the remainder of his life. Dr. Why Dr. Yarone believes Nathan will have a normal life expectancy. expectancy living until about 2074. the largest expense in the Life Care The largest expense in the life care plan is Nursing Care at approximately. at approximately 60000000 a year. plaintiffs experts opine that Nathan's future Medical Care will cost approximately 42 million. Thus Nathan's alleged. Thus Nathan's alleged Total Medical Care including both past and future care is valued at. past and future care is valued at 44 million. given the injuries and potential medical damages the Department of Law notified the city's 6 access insurance. carriers. departments who evaluated this case thoroughly? the 6 excess carriers and their retained attorneys reviewed the evidence and agreed with the city's decision to settle for 45 million by paying more than half of the settle. for 45 million by paying more than half of the settlement at 25 million. There's a significant likelihood that the city will be. found guilty and assess a portion of the fault concerning this accident. The jury will likely. The jury will likely a portion fault between the city and Khalil rags. Khalil Rags. However a party found responsible for any. percentage of faults under Illinois Law. percentage of faults under Illinois Law is responsible for all of a plaintiff. all of a plaintiff's claim medical expenses. Therefore if the city is found even 1% responsible. Therefore if the city is found even 1% responsible under Illinois Law the city must pay all of Nathan's medical expenses. Nathan's pass and future medical expenses are Valu Nathan's pass and future medical expenses are valued at 44 million. if the If the city is found even 1% responds. If the city is found even 1% responsible, it will likely be required to pay at. required to pay at least 44 million. in addition to Medical damages plaintiff is also seeking damages for past and future. and suffering and past and future loss of normal life. damages, which the plaintiffs allege are valued at over million dollars PL plaint alleges this case is valued. Alleges this case is valued again at over a hundred million dollars and after nighat. dollars and after negotiation with a judge. the city settled for 45 million roughly Nathan's alleged medical expenses. The city is self-insured up to 20 million dollars therefore 25 million will be paid by the city's excess insurance car. will be paid by the city's excess insurance carriers in 20 million dollars will be paid by the city. No. All right any questions from members of the committee? All right. Any questions from members of the committee Alderman wag is back. Thank you chairwoman. Uh first question is, um, I didn't see too many facts about what happened to the driver of the Toyota. in terms of the driver In terms of the driver of the Toyota. Um, they did not file they did not. Um, they did not file they did not file litigation in in this matter. Um, they there were 2 individuals inside of the vehic. the vehicle, um, 1 individual alleged what we call soft tissue injuries. Um, tissue injuries, um a sore neck a sore back, um another individual inside of the Toyota did claim. Um, individual inside of the Toyota did claim, um more substantial injuries, however, um the occupants of the Toyota did not file litigation against the city of Chicago. Did they file against rags? the driver of the The driver of the other vehicle to to my knowledge. No. so, oh, well, that's very interesting that they So, oh, well that's very interesting that they basically there must have been was there damage to their vehic. there must have been was there damage to their vehicle. There was damage to their vehicle. There was damage to their vehicle and um both of the occupants. Um, occupants, um had varying degrees of of of injuries that the record reflects that um, however, I do not know what would have influenced their decision here. Um, I do know that they did not file a lit. that they did not file litigation the only litigation pending against the city of Chicago. pending against the city of Chicago from this incident, um is pertaining to Nathan Jones at this point and did their insurance get involved at all or nothing. uh in terms the insurance for um, the Volkswagen Toyota drivers or both actually the Toyota and the Volkswagen. drivers or both actually the Toyota and the Volkswagen as to the Volkswagen. Um, to the Volkswagen, um there to my knowledge and the evidence in the record is that there was no insurance for that Volkswagen if there was insurance. that Volkswagen if there was Insurance those policies are normally capped at about as you know Alderman would nominal in this case, um in terms of the the occupants of the Toyota I'm I'm not certain as they did not file litigation and there are no allegations that the Toyota was responsible for the accident. responsible for the accident, um, the evidence in the record reflects that the Toyota had the right of way at the time of the accident. Okay? Um, how far did the pursuit vehicle go the Volkswagen after uh off? vehicle go the Volkswagen after uh officer Perez turned off his lights. his lights and stopped the pursuit the evidence in the record is that um, approximately a block um pass or the let me rephrase that the evidence in the record is that the evidence in the record. Is that a there was approximately a block between um officer Perez extinguishing. extinguishing his emergency, uh, signals and beginning to slow down and the accident occurring and that block is um I mean when you looked at that block. I mean when you looked at that block, uh, could they have seen? seen the police officer? extinguishes lights or was there any was there any video evidence from? intersection? So I I think the question that you're getting. at Alderman here is the the the inquiry around. at Alderman here is the the the inquiry around proximate cause um, if cause um if the officers extinguished their lights began to slow down, how can the plaintiff prove or how would the plaintiff? the plaintiff attempt to prove that the city was a proximate cause of? proximate cause of this accident? Um, I'll talk a little bit about the pro. bit about the proximate cause jury instructions um in Illinois, so the proximate cause jury instructions ref. that if um a party is a um, if the party is a cause of the accident, um, if the party um contributed to the accident then the project can be found to be approximate cause so in Illinois a party can be found to be a proximate cause even if they weren't the greatest this cause even if they weren't the most recent cause even if they weren't the largest cause um in Illinois and we've seen this play out in a number of our our our lawsuits and our litigation if a party is even found to be really 1 Link in that chain. really 1 Link in that chain of causation. Um, then a jury can find that a party is a proximate. can find that a party is a proximate cause and in this case as I previously mentioned if the city is found even 1% responds, responsible under Illinois Law, um, the city would be responsible for all of the plaint. responsible for all of the plaintiffs medical bills, and that's not even talking about claims that will be made for loss of normal life past and future pain and suffering past and future so that is and future. So that is why we are making the recommendation of the the settlement in this matter when you do the um dterm determination of that, uh, contribute contributing fact, determination of that, uh, contribute contributing factors, um, can you argue that it is uh an insignificant portion. For proportion of what? Um for proportion of what um contributed to the accident at that point sure, so if if we were to try this case if we were to proceed to try we certainly would argue that. proceed to try we certainly would argue that the sole cause of this accident is Sole cause of this accident is uh Khalil rags in in his bad driving. bad driving. Um, but we're making this recommend because that that argument as I've said earlier is not likely. likely to succeed I even I have the proxim likely to succeed. I even I have the proximate cause your instructions here and I can read that to you for instructions here and I can read that to you verbatim Alderman and just before you do that. So there's difference between going to trial and arguing that versus you settling that I'm sorry. I don't quite understand the question you you mentioned that if you went to trial. mentioned that if you went to trial you would argue that but you're not going to trial. So you're but you're not going to trial so you're not taking on that position. the a proportion of of um What the um. What the um, Mr. Rags would be held accountable for oh. am. I I think I understand the question. Um, I I I certainly think that Mr. That kylo Rags, um that there is a portion of responsibility in the accident on kilo rags. also know under Illinois Law when we're talking about medical expenses if the city is found, medical expenses if the city is found even 1% responsible we are We are responsible for all of the medical injuries 44 million. So while there could be an argument and perhaps even a successful argument that Rags is also responsible Responsible. Um, I do not think that a as we call Soul proximate cause argument or saying that Rags is 100% responsible. Um, responsible, um that there is a significant chance of success. success on that such that its it merits taking a a case to trial that could place a city at Expos. trial that could place a city at exposure of 100 million or over dollars. Could you go ahead and read that? could you go ahead and read that sure, of course, so approximate cause and this is from uh, the Illinois pattern jury instruction. jury instructions, um, which really set out the instruction. instructions that parties are generally allowed to give to juries when they're considering particular issues of law. juries when they're considering particular issues of law for proximate cause the instructions says when I use the Expression proximate cause I mean a cause that in the natural or ordinary course of events produce the plaint plaintiff's injury it need not be the only plaintiff's injury, it need not be the only cause nor the last or nearest cause it is sufficient if it combines with another cause resulting in the injury if you decide that the that a defendant was negligent or in this case will form Form 1 is a standard and their willful and want and was a proximate cause of the injury to the plaintiff. It is not a defense. not a defense that something or someone else may have been a cause of the injury. however, if you However, if you decide that the defendant's conduct was not a approxim. a proximate cause of the plaintiff's injury then your verdict. verdict should be for the defendant. So as we can see here it lays out that um, it lays out that um proximate cause doesn't mean um doesn't mean or there can be more than 1 proximate cause something can be approximate cause if it's not the last cause if it's not the greatest cause if it combines with another cause to lead to the injury and that is why in this case the Department of Law is case, the Department of Law is recommending settlement for plaintiff's plaintiffs medical bills, because if we go to trial we're at exposure of medical bills pain and suffering past and future loss of normal life past and future which plaintiff has valued at over 100 million dollar. plaintiff has valued at over 100 million dollars. Excuse me. Um, sir you cannot. Excuse me. Um, sir, you cannot address the committee. This is a committee meeting the public. is a committee meeting. The public is not in part of this delibr. deliberation. Alderman wag is back. Um I think I think that answers my questions chairwoman. Thank you. All I had uh, I think this ties into vehicle Pursuits in general and if this is the direction that we you know as we hear more of this, um, you know, if that if the policy then is tied into this proximate. Um, connection to any vehicle Pursuit we are essentially saying we cannot pursue any vehicle. in the In the future. I mean is that kind of the direction that we're going then because any officer whoever turns on lights now or starts a Pursuit. Turns them off something else. turns them off something else happens, um within that engagement even even not proximate and this case you were they were already a block away before. they were already a block away before anything happened and I understand you know the the argument there but I understand you know the the argument there, but is this leading into a the stronger know? leading into a the stronger? No chase policy. Alderman, um I don't think it's the beginning of excuse me, Mr. Hendricks. Could you please identify yourself for the record? And that's my last question? I'm sorry. I I'm John Hendricks. I'm the managing Deputy for litigation. overall, um first I First I I I would. suggest if you've got some Suggest if you've got some other questions, we'd be happy to take those. to take those off of public meeting. Yeah, so I was going to say you don't have to answer if it's related to uh that strategy issue. But but what I did want to want to comment on your question because I think it's an important 1 that the jury instruction The jury instruction is not new and the find. liability are not new. What's liability are not new what's really new in this case is the signific. significant injury. So I don't think that. so I don't think that this case sets, uh a new standard in terms of liability or potential liability. Um, but I do think it's concerning. but I do think it's concerning that the state law is written in. written in such a way that um, the city would be on the hook for this. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Okay, thank you. Thank you Cheryl. Appreciate it and Miss Manning Hall. Thank you for going through that. Uh Alderman Martin is yours a point of clarification? Alderman Martin is your point of clarification because there are other aldermen ahead of you. That's correct. All right point of clarity. Just wondering if you know approximately when uh the state Cod. if you know approximately when uh the state codified, uh that language around proximate cause and if you don't know if you can share that through the chair. Just give me 1 second to think I do have the answer to that. my recollection is that um the change um, My recollection is that um the change um regarding proximate cause in particular. proximate cause in particular, um occurred toe. proximate cause in particular, um occurred toward I will submit that to the chair. I'm not going to make a guess. here. Thank you Alderman. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Miss. Casey Alderman CEO Lopez. you uh, thank you, um chairwoman my question is You uh, thank you, um chairwoman my question is and I think it it. Um, this was asked during the briefings. Um, the officer involved in these cases is this um officer on active duty or or is in death Duty and I know that was asked to CPD directly, but want to see what was the answer after our questions. after all questions. Sure. Alderman Sure Alderman, um officer press is not on. Sure Alderman, um officer press is not on desk Duty. Um, he is still on active duty. Okay, I think I think just in terms of I think. Okay, I think I think just in terms of I think some of the questions in terms of protocols. questions in terms of protocols that we believe that you know with the Chicago Police Department not respond. know with the Chicago Police Department not responding yet, uh until this case is properly Uh until this case is properly settled don't want to speculate but I do think it's important. speculate but I do think it's important in general just in terms of procedures the CPD follows. terms of procedures the CPD follows, you know, so I don't know if there's you know, the this is a protocol again. I'm not assuming any kind of wrongdoing. not assuming any kind of wrongdoing all I'm saying is that um the um, the the the answer from the CPD. I'm not sure that has got a an answer why why is the case of there's a on this? I apologize Alder. question for me? Thank you know, I'm just my I know the answer on this specific. answer on this specific case now in general if there's a protocol in terms of this. protocol in terms of this there's a protocol in place on this uh for this. this, uh for this kind of um deciding if is the the officer should be in their Duty or in active duty and there's a protocol not on this specific case, but in general Yes Alderman. Um, I did convey. Yes Alderman. Um, I did convey that question to the Chicago Police Department. Police Department, and I have not received a response. Thank you, just in terms. I think the the item in terms of protocol. protocols and all that. I I I don't think that we should be you know. you know in the extremes of uh discussing. you know in the extremes of uh, discussing, uh, 1 policy because of 1 case, however because of 1 case however protocols in terms of consistency and again, and again the the Chicago Police Department adhering to adhering to constitutional policing and and when it comes to the um cons, um consent decree as well. So want to make sure that we follow those guidelines. Thank you madam chair. Thank you. Alderman. Alderman Taylor followed by Alderman the spot Allman Irvin that this happened to the plane of when he was 15. old. And you said 45? And you said 45 million is only for medical. How will this how is this family supposed to take care? this young person? for the rest of his life on On other men Taylor, I understand. on other men Taylor, I understand your your concern for Nathan Jones, um and with my familiar Nathan Jones. Um, and with my familiarity with this case, I I I fully appreciate that concern. I I fully appreciate that concern, um in terms of of the care of of Nathan Jones, this is a settlement that um his family his caregivers. family his caregivers, um are are open to accept for what happened to to their For what happened to to their son? Um, I know yeah. um Um, I also know as a part of this settlement agreement. if it is approved by um committee and then Council, um a portion of the settlement will go into um, what portion of the settlement will go into um what we call a structured settlement or an annuity to pay out regular dividends for the care of of Nathan. How does Nathan now? Nathan was 15 year old 15 years. Nathan was 15 year old 15 years old at the time of the accident in 202. accident in 2021. So now putting it into. accident in 2021. So now putting it into 2024. About 18 years old at at this time. So of course I'm going to be so, of course, I'm going to be supporting this but it's it's funny how we put in we put dollars on a 15 year. and I'm assuming he was a normal 15. and I'm assuming he was a normal 15 year old child who had none of these issues. none of these issues before this accident. And so We have some responsibility. We have some responsibility and I get us taking the court. Um, if we take the support the family could get more. Um, and maybe that's more support for this kid because he's still a kid. um what was What was I and this is the only question that I didn't get to ask. was the officer told told to Was the officer told told to in Pursuit? what was What was he told by by his supervisor? Yes as a What was he told by by his supervisor? Yes, as a part of this case. Um The fact came out that officer, press did not call. The fact came out that officer press did not call into oemc. Um, and so his supervisor did not have an opportunity. Um, and so his supervisor did not have an opportunity to tell him to seize the pursuit. Do we know what the reason for the pursuit was? uh a traffic infraction role in the Uh a traffic infraction role in the stop sign. Stop signs. Yeah to initial the initial. Stop signs. Yeah to initial the initial start of it was uh, violating a stop sign and then there were initial or additional violations that were observed. so forth stop So forth stop sign we got a young person who is never going to walk. to walk never going to eat never going to talk. to walk never going to eat. Never going to talk. Never going to get to have a baby never going to get to. going to get to have a baby never going to get to do any of those things and we are again about this this little money because that can't replace. because that can't replace what we don't know what that young person's life would have been had the officer not pursued for a rolling stop. Thank you madam chair. Thank you. Thank you madam. Chair. Thank you Alderman Taylor alderman laspada. Thank you chair. There's not much. There's not much I can say better than how old a woman tailor just said. tailor just said it if only I would add. the the The the streets were talking about are formerly in the first. First Ward and I think of the count. First Ward and I think of the countless people that I care about. including myself who just as easily could have been the person injured in this crash. and oh only say it goes. oh only say it goes without saying but it ought to be said that our a profound. that our profoundest sympathies go to. Miss Boyd, um, I can only start to imagine the grief. Start to imagine the grief that she's bearing every day trying to care for. trying to care for her son and thinking about the future that she wanted for. that she wanted for him. So if if this reaches her in any sense that I just want to share my profoundest sympathies and sadness for what? and sadness for what happened to her son. That's all. Thank you chair. Thank you. you chair. Thank you Alderman. Laspada Alderman, uh B. And thank you. Uh, thank you madam chair, uh, And thank you. Uh, thank you madam chair. Uh, I be perfectly honest with you. I think that uh almond honest with you. I think that uh Alderman Taylor kind of summed up a lot of things that were were stated 1 point was that um, um, the the settlement I mean the portion of the city's on for as the 2000. city's on for as the 2000, um, the anything above the 20 million is being paid, uh via our insurance are they, uh on board with this, uh particular settlement, uh, board with this, uh, particular settlement, uh that's being proposed. additional insurers are on board with this decision that we're voting on today this settlement agreement. Thank you for that Claire. Uh, uh clar for that Claire, uh, uh clarification chair. Um, and yes, um Alderman Ervin the city's access insurance. um Alderman Ervin the city's access insurance carriers are on board with with this settlement. Um, and additionally if I can pivot back, I can pivot back briefly to the the question from our point of clar. of clarification from Alderman Martin in terms. of clarification from Alderman Martin in terms of the approximate cause jury instructions, approximate cause jury instructions. Um, the information I have is that they were modified. have is that they were modified in August of 2021. Uh Alderman Urban. Did you have any other questions? That is all yeah. This is this is just a very tragic. all yeah. This is this is just a very tragic case, um, you know, and and you know, and and unfortunately, this is um, You know part. you know part of part of the job that we don't like but uh, it's something that we have to do to take care of this family. So, uh, thank you madam chair. Thank you Alder. Thank you Alderman, uh Alderman Vasquez. Thank you madam. Chair. Um I have Thank you madam. Chair. Um, I I have questions that are kind of along the same lines as Alder wag. along the same lines as Alder wag is back, but from a different direction. I know when we have conversations with the public, uh, they talked. the public, uh, they talked to us about the chase policy. Um, and they feel like the officers are restricted. Um, there are rules in place for a reason I think looking at not only the tragedy that caused the family and this young man, but like the amount of fiduciary responsibility we're responsible for here. responsible for here, uh, also highlights that and I guess my question is either here or through the chair if you could provide What this officer did that was against? what this officer did that was against the chase policy in a way that provides Clarity for our members, um, because I think that would be important to know. Sure. sure, I I'm happy to provide that that um. I'm happy to provide that that um now but I'll thank you for giving me the opportunity to submit through the chair. Um, I have with me the general. Um, I have with me the general order, um that was in place at the time. at the time of this incident, um as general order. at the time of this incident, um as general order go 3030301. Um, 3030301, um emergency vehicle operations, um this 3030301, um emergency vehicle operations. Um, this policy was issued on August 10th of 2020. was issued on August 10th of 2020 and going to um, was issued on August 10th of 2020 and going to um section Roman numeral 5 Pro. Roman numeral 5 prohibitions. Um, the The pursuit policy says that members will not engage. The pursuit policy says that members will not engage in a motor vehicle Pursuit whenever the most serious. motor vehicle Pursuit whenever the most serious offense wanted for is number 1. wanted for is number 1 a traffic offense. So if this matter were to proceed to trial the plaintiffs will argue that um officer per officer Perez, um through his Pursuit violated, officer Perez, um through his Pursuit violated the general order the 1 specific. order the 1 specifically saying that officers are not to engage in Pursuits where the most serious offense is for. engage in Pursuits where the most serious offense is for a traffic violation. Um, and as I previously stated, um the evidence in the record, is that the the sarge the lieut and the commander, um, and the commander, um found that this Pursuit was not within Pollock. within policy. okay, um an additional Fact, um that will lead the plan. fact, um that will lead the plaintiff to argue that this Pursuit was in violation of the general. Pursuit was in violation of the general orders is um officer Perez. officer Perez's failure to call or contact. officer Perez's failure to call or contact oemc to let his Sergeant know that he was purs. Sergeant know that he was pursuing. Um, so that his Sarge will have the opportunity to approve the pursuit or call it off. Um, so those are the the 2 main allegations here, um pursuing for uh traffic. pursuing for uh, traffic infraction and pursuing without notifying oemc that is what the plaintiff will are. I I appreciate that because I think when when it gets framed publicly that officers are being handcuffed. from chasing these violent criminals that what we're talking. talking about here was very reasonable and protocol that if somebody's running through a stop. somebody's running through a stoplight, that doesn't then mandate a Chase. mandate a Chase and that if you're going to get involved in that situation that you're making the call so other involved and so, um, I I just wanted those details to shared. Um, I know there were how many individuals in the Um car with Nathan there were a total. Um car with Nathan there were a total of 5 individuals that were in the car with Nathan. Okay. were in the car with Nathan. Okay, and there was there was a a gun that was found. a a gun that was found in the vehicle, but are there details? details on where it was found or who might have had it? Sure. So in my apologies to clarify 5 people. Sure. So in my apologies to clarify 5 people in total in the car including Nathan? the car including Nathan, um in terms of where the firearm was recovered it was recovered. covered in the Center Council Covered in the Center Council. Um Nathan was a backseat passenger. passenger and the judge in this case has said that no evidence of the recovered firearm. evidence of the recovered firearm will be allowed to be presented to the jury if we have to go to trial. Thank you. Uh, the reason why I wanted all those expansion. in in this speaks to the experience of of myself and a lot of kids who have grown up in this city. Um, we've all not all a lot of us depending on the situation. We've grown up. in have been in vehicles with multiple. in have been in vehicles with multiple folks our age. Um, I can't say in my own history that there hasn't been some situation where I may have been in a car with somebody else who had a weapon on them. Um when you think who had a weapon on them. Um, when you think about the fear of a 15 year old and thinking that an officer might be pulling up behind you as well as a history. pulling up behind you as well as a history of profiling I think there's just a lot of context that may not be um brought to this whole story but brought to this whole story, but I think there's a history that we know in this country and in this city about how this this interactions are different with different folks. And so the reason why I mentioned that is Although it may seem to some who have not had that history of. of experience that that the way people resp. of experience that that the way people respond when there's a officer or a light turned on. a officer or a light turned on behind you might seem irrational. It's not if you're concerned about what that could end up being and so it is an incredibly sad story. Uh, it's incredibly Savvy when you think about what happened to to this young man. um in here in in here, in this case it it was it was not necessarily a conflict, but there's conflict but there's so much that could have been done differently. And so, um, I will be in support. I understand how challenging it is and how much it's going to cost the city, but when we think about what it city. But when we think about what it costs the family, I don't think there's any amount that that is able to to to replace what's being lost their. Um, I do also think that when we talk about our current youth out there that are engaged in in any level of activity that could go into the criminal territory. Go into the criminal territory that that this story is something that also need. something that also needs to be shared. And so I hope that the family is able to hear and obviously when we get past all this. What's happening right here? What's happening right here to a child? I think it's more of a deterrent. I think it's more of a deterrent than what a lot of people think messaging is out there for kids. think messaging is out there for kids out there who have no idea what situations they be jumping into. idea what situations they be jumping into when they're in vehicles or what kind of Life they think they're uh, potentially getting involved in I I I'm Terr. I'm terribly sorry to to the family. Um as a city, I know we have to do the right thing is difficult. we have to do the right thing is difficult as it is, but I hope that if anyone is seeing what this story. hope that if anyone is seeing what this story is if you're a kid out there. Second guess anything that you're putting yourself into. because we wouldn't want anybody and not to put responsibility on on. responsibility on on victims of of even car crash or anything, but It's incredibly complicated. So I thank you for the answers. Thank you madam chair. answers. Thank you. Madam chair. Thank you Alderman Vasquez Alder. Alderman Talia Ferrell. Thank you madam. Chair. Um, I too will be supporting this on these. Um facts are very tragic and um, but I I wanted to ask uh because Because it sounds like when you were talking proximate calls a little earlier. calls a little earlier, uh that there may have been more than 1 party that. than 1 party that could have been um liable in this case. for the injuries. Um, And with that, could we have? and with that could we have and if we if the answer is yes, then we did we seek? Um any contribution from anybody that may have been jointly liable, uh from the insurance companies that may have been joint. may have been jointly liable. Sure, um. Sure. Um, I'm happy to to answer that question. sure, um, I'm happy to to answer that question, uh in terms of approximate cause and then joined in several liability. liabilities. So in this particular case, um the name liabilities. So in this particular case, um, the name parties are um clear Rags the city of Chicago and Perez is the city's employee. Um, Perez is the city's employee, um with insurance the vehicle. that uh, Phil Rags was driving was uninsured even if it was unsure those policies. unsure those policies are normally capped at dollars, so it would be a very nominal amount, but there's no insurance there. there, um in terms of clear r If we were to proceed to trial we would argue. if we were to proceed to trial we would argue that Khalil Rags was wholly responsible what we call the sole. Rags was wholly responsible what we call the sole proximate cause that argument is UN. cause that argument is unlikely to succeed based on how we have seen. have seen these Pursuits go forward and based on how the law. law is is structured. Um, law is is structured, um to say that you can be approximate cause if you're not the last calls you're not the greatest if you're in combination with other causes and additionally the way Illinois Law is structured is that if the city is found even 1% responds, found even 1% responsible the city will be responsible for all. all of the medical bills here. Um, and the evidence in the record is that the medical bills are 44 million, right? I I understand that. Um, but I'm I'm what I'm asking is um, did you seek any joint liability against uh, the the gentle that you mentioned because if if he wins that dollar lottery tomorrow, he's all Scott free if I'm not mistaken. so I'm I'm asking if you So I'm I'm asking if you sought any type of joint liability against him. Sure. So, uh, yes we did. Sure. So, uh, yes, we did file. Um a we filed a counter claim for a contribution. claim for a contribution against Mr. Rags, um if we were to proceed to to proceed to try we will argue that Mr. Rags is the 1 that is responsible. Um, how however we have is responsible. Um how however we have to really evaluate the case based. the case based on how things are set up today. Um, and not how things may be set up in the future. So with that practically looks like is if we settle the case today, um with Nathan and his family and perhaps the medical bills. are higher. The settlement is what it is. Um if we settle the case today. today, um, and Nathan And Nathan or excuse me, Mr. Rags at this point um is able to con to contribute the settle. able to con to contribute. The settlement is what it is. So really when we are thinking about the valuation of the case, we're evaluating it with all of the facts, um and evidence that we have right now at this point in time. We really can't project into the future when evaluating case, but I I do hear you. I understand you. case, but I I do hear you. I understand you and we did file a counter claim for contribution. a counter claim for contribution against Mr. Rex. I think you should. Thank you. Alderman. Thank you Alderman Talya Ferro Vice. mayor Bernett Yeah, thank you. Uh Madame chair. I I just would be remiss if I did not um first of all, thank you, but having a briefings for First of all, thank you, but having a briefings for all of us, uh about these things. us, uh about these things and thank the attorneys for explaining the details to us at the briefings. things. Uh, so I appreciate the fact that that you know, we've asked a myriad of questions and some good questions have come out of this, but there was some good questions. that came out of the briefing so I just want Folks to know that some of us already asked. Folks to know that some of us already asked our questions. Uh, we didn't ask it publicly. Uh, we didn't ask it publicly because we asked it at the briefing so I just want to thank briefing. So I just want to thank you very much for all the information you have shared with us. information you have shared with us and for all of the things that we're learning. things that we're learning, you know, like for instance the when the insurance kicks kicks in that the insurance policy. that the city have that's why some of its being paid for uh through the insurance, so I just want to thank you. through the insurance. So I just want to thank you Miss men hall for uh all of your hall for uh, all of your explanation and I thank the chairman for having a briefings. chairman for having a briefings for us. Thank you. Thank you vice mayor and I would encourage um all of the members All of the members of the committee and those that are not members. members to attend when you can because I think they're informative, um and important informative. Um and important I will say, um prior to uh, assuming this seat. I did not always go to brief. assuming this seat. I did not always go to briefings and I see the importance of attending them now so so um, I want to put that on everyone's mind, you know, finally, I just wanted to say that as a mother, um this case just wanted to say that as a mother. Um, this case was very devastating to me personally. devastating to me personally and uh, you know, devastating to me personally and uh, you know Alderman Taylor, I thank you for you know, keeping us, uh sensitive about uh, the decisions that we're making in this body. Um, and if there are no further questions on this, um, Alderman Alderman Curtis I am supporting um, uh this 1 but uh, can I be recorded as a know and be Yes, thank you, ma'am. I'll record you as yes, thank you, ma'am. I'll record you as a know on the on B. B and move to pass on this 1. Uh, okay. B and move to pass on this 1. Uh, okay, so can I get a motion to? motion to move to pass on item 13c? some mobile Alderman Harris, um all those in favor signify by saying I opposed And the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and this. and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it and this do pass recommendation will be reported out. pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Um, I want to thank everyone for being here. here this today. I know this was a long meeting. being no further business before the committee. Can I get I get a motion to adjourn Alderman Alderman Lee? motion to adjourn Alderman Alderman Li moves to adjourn all those in favor signify. those in favor signify by saying I oppose nay and the opinion of the chair the eyes have it. We're adjourn. have a nice afternoon.