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Good morning. Good morning.
Please take a seat. We're about to start.
or um
Wednesday March 13 2024 committee on the housing real
estate, so I want to welcome everyone if you can please.
Uh, take a seat. We want to thank all the mem.
committee and housing real estate of the city council. Um,
for being here today, and we're going to start with the
roll call today. We have 7 items on the agenda.
We start with roll call.
Uh
uh alderman
Dow
no present, uh all the women
No present, uh alderwoman, I think Alderman Harris is still
on the in the country transportation meeting.
on the in the country transportation meeting Alderman
Queen.
president
present um all the women Taylor
Pres
present
all the women Tes
all the women Scott
Alderman Scott
Scott is present all the person Fuentes.
all the member brunette
is
Is present um Alderman row.
Alderman Miss roses present Alderman clay
ultimat
Ultimately is present I'll happen with.
I want to happen with president and other women had it.
Thank God in man.
Thank God in Manhattan that that makes 10 members, so.
Thank God in Manhattan that that makes 10 members. So we
have Quorum including myself.
Um now we are evoking row.
Um now we are evoking roof 59, uh the requests from other
persons.
persons robbing some more Rodriguez Sanchez bagasse am
persons robbing some more Rodriguez Sanchez Bas to
participate remotely. Can I get a motion to allow them to
participate via remote means so move but all the women
clay, uh, all those in favor say I
all those opposed say nay in the beginning of the chair.
The eyes have it Alderman Robinson and VGA.
The eyes have it Alderman Robinson and VGA and Roger
Sanchez more Robinson having added to the quorum.
we have
5 uh speakers here today each speaker.
5 uh speakers here today each speaker, uh will have 3
minutes for public comment on all the items.
minutes for public comment on all the items on the agenda.
So we're going to we're going to start with uh, Tori and
Nicholson.
Thank you, Tori.
Thank you. Good.
Thank you. Good afternoon.
Good afternoon. I want to talk about exorbitant moving and
move out administrative fees, which
move out administrative fees which are really alarming and
common on rental applications. Are they include things like
elevator?
elevator lock fees application credit background check and
they are for every person on the list. Not just the
applicant. Um, these fees run 75 to end up.
applicant. Um, these fees run 75 to end up a person and and
then the move in and move out fees can be any
From 350 to 750 per person each time move in and move out.
Um, this is inherently discriminatory against married
couples and uh families with adult children like my son in
college.
if a family
If a family is moving in 1 application should suffice not a
separate.
separate paid application for every human that will reside
in the unit. It's literally a money grab like paying 3.
in the unit. It's literally a money grab like paying 33 to
40% of your salary is not a m enough.
40% of your salary is not a m enough of a money grab make
these move in and move out fees.
these move in and move out fees illegal number 2 rent
control.
It's difficult.
It's difficult to find a 2-bedroom apartment in this city
for less than dollar.
for less than dollars. And in that price range. The units
are usually not even aesthetic.
are usually not even aesthetically pleasing the word
discussing comes to mind when I think about what I've seen.
discussing comes to mind when I think about what I've seen
these last couple years.
um
a a nice 2-bedroom 2 bath $3,000 and up. I'm a teacher who
can pay that.
Uh it it's utterly ridiculous to me.
Uh it it's utterly ridiculous to me that it costs the same
thing to live on a 1050 State as it does fifth in state in
this city.
We all know.
We all know they're not getting the same level of service
that naturally occur.
that naturally occurs to the wealthiest neighborhoods in
the city number 3.
the city number 3, if a renter gets a mortgage approval.
buys a home, then there should be a law that allows them to
terminate their lease by paying a nominal fee instead of
the remain.
the remainder of the lease. I encourage you to think of it
as sort of a Housing Home Ownership condition subse.
clause
we want to incentivize home ownership since we know that
it's 1 of the indicators the largest indicators of wealth
in this country.
you need
You need to enforce the housing codes landlords are getting
away with murder.
away with murder almost literally in this city. They're
extract.
extracting wealth, but providing substandard service and
usually and quite frankly no service at all.
number
Number 5 please what is happening at 352?
Number 5 please what is happening at 3522 South state is
Criminal and immoral. It's a Condo building with an HOA
management company, but most units are apparently housing.
Cha residents.
cha residents and so the management company basically
insists that it can only talk.
insists that it can only talk to the landlords and the
landlords say they can only deal with the HOA and literally
nothing is getting done.
nothing is getting done the elevator uninspected since
2020.
and dangerous only other access to units is the lock
stairwell and all residents do not have a key flicker.
lights heat outages. That's a height of Sub-Zero weather.
illegal lockouts busted pipes and flooding.
illegal lockouts busted pipes and flooding all uh going
unrepaired while the HOA management company.
unrepaired while the HOA management company and landlords
are playing fast and loose with people's lives. Somebody
needs to get over there and inspect that building it is
hazard to the community during 1 elevator shut off. My
disabled neighbor was actually unable to leave her home.
Please pass legislation.
Please pass legislation that actually improves the lives of
your constituent.
HOA property man
thank you.
thank
Thank you, Mr. Blakemore. And your point is noted. We do
need help for working people.
Me Mr. Tawan, Sim.
Me Mr. Tawan Sims.
Um
so since um 122
So since um 1229 23, I've been homeless.
I'm from Rogers Park.
49th Ward
um
I've been to Maria Alderman's 12 Maria had.
I've been to Maria Alderman's 12 Maria Haden's office now 5
times in regard.
times in regards to this.
I'm homeless.
I have
exhausted for Sr numbers
to the effect that they said they contacted me at 64.
to the effect that they said they contacted me at 6464
North Clark No, 1 contact me.
North Clark No 1 contact me. But also I have a phone the
phone that I keep in my hand for recording.
phone that I keep in my hand for recording by the phone so
that they can also access me.
To no avail this morning I called.
To no avail this morning. I called also.
And she told me she gave me the um, Sr.
And she told me she gave me the um Sr number.
She said that.
We have so many people waiting on Shelter.
Now when we can speak to that migrant issue.
we
We can speak to the fact that Maria Haden.
many?
migrants that um
Super 8 or what? Is it Super 8 hotel?
Of of what?
Sheridan so it's like
and I asked for that accommodation.
Because I like the bathe. I have not shouted I
shower with this morning y'all I look I know I look but I
try to do well.
try to do well at this because I'm not gonna live the
hardship that I'm going through.
I'm not going to let it be shown. However.
I'm not going to let it be shown how I'm going through it
and maybe that's what we should do. I maybe I should come
in here.
in here and ratty clothes and smell and stinking.
Maybe then that visual will get things going.
Maybe then that visual will get things going the ball
moving.
Because I do have children. I got 2 I got a 15 year old and
I got a 3 year old.
And because I don't have housing.
and because I don't have housing the people that I'm
and I guess competition with with DJ moms. They have the
reservation of being the what is it the
Reservation of being the what? Is it the um primary
caregivers
However, I'm a father.
God gave me the duty. I'm a steward. God gave me the
However, if I don't have the means to be that which would
be work.
and housing
Which is up housing committee for?
Which is up housing committee for Real Estate?
How can a American?
How can a American man be homeless still? I'm 43 years in
this country.
I'm from the north side of Chicago and that's that's saying
something.
because how if it's only affecting the west and the south
is somebody who in the north still having the same
complaint.
Or having the same issue.
when all of what the the rez
when all of what the the resources are allocated in that
direction and those directions, let's say
So I can speak.
So I could speak all these words and say all these things
but today or any.
but today or any day. I would like for 1 of the aldermans
to call.
to call me and say Mr. Sims.
You know what? We do have a place for you not a shelter
because at this point
I've been getting by.
at this
At this point I'm praying that.
Maria hadn't to call.
Maria hadn't to call and say you know what there's a place
available off to we or Morris somewhere.
I'm just saying.
Thank you. Thank.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mrs. Um
before we start
With everything going on.
With everything going on in the city. I do think it's
important to take the time.
to respond to some of the urgent urgent matters so I know
that ch,
that cha representatives are here today, and I hope that
they are.
they are listening not only here in the housing real estate
about the concerns.
about the concerns and issues. And uh,
um, not only the building was referred in the public
comment, but across the city, we will have quarterly
meetings and again,
meetings. And again, I will reiterate some of the meetings
that we have had. We're not only going to have quarterly
meetings here in city council, but we are going to have
also quarterly meetings that go to the communities where we
need to listen.
need to listen to the residents. So the commitment of the
committee is to have a hearing here in the council this
quarter the next 1 in a community at Cha community that
council members can discuss giving the priorities.
council members can discuss giving the priorities the next
1 we come back to the council and we're going to end the
year.
year again in a community because we must respond to
residents.
I understand and I see here, you know and again as
yesterday.
we start Ramadan.
I think it's important to put ourselves in the shoes of the
people that come here Day by
people that come here day by day.
That are Sleepless at night. I witness over the weekend a
mother.
mother that had not slept for over 16 hours.
mother that had not slept for over 16 hours with a 2-month
old on their hands. These are the working.
old on their hands. These are the working people.
That unfortunately our government.
that unfortunately our government at the highest level
continued to stigmatize and neglect black and brown.
so again
So again, I understand the urgency. This is a public health
crisis. We cannot ask people to be.
crisis. We cannot ask people to be sheltered in place in
the pandemic without providing adequate.
the pandemic without providing adequate housing and that
goes also for the 80,000 unhoused residents in the city of
Chicago.
What I would say is that business as usual.
What I would say is that business as usual is no longer.
in the city council
In the city council, and we ask every single public servant
here.
To look within your own family or own community.
We need to step up.
today's
Today's CDC yesterday was here. We'll make sure that the
public health.
Public Health crisis is also talked as a housing crisis
because we cannot have shelter in place with our housing.
So appreciate the comments. I understand the frustration.
I share it please I'm sorry, sir, but you have to sign up
for public.
for public comment, but we can talk afterwards because we
want to make sure that everybody.
want to make sure that everybody is heard, but I want to I
want to make sure that people.
want to make sure that people are we want to make sure that
you know that we're listening.
that you know that we're listening.
now to continue
Uh, I know that we have some council members that have
joined us Alderman Moore.
joined us Alderman Moore all the women, uh Tavares all the
woman Harris and all the person Fuentes. We will allow you
to the roll call. Thank you.
Welcome to continue with the agenda. We also have 2 written
comments submitted 1 from the 35th word residents that will
have concluded our our verbal comments Martin. Kosola on.
agenda for item number 2 and from Christian Diaz.
Palenque lsna Also regarding the demolition.
ordinance both have been passed out to the committee mem
members and sent by emails this morning, uh, so that you
can have also the details of those comments and number for
the second item in the agenda that concludes all the public
comment. I appreciate your collab.
comment. I appreciate your collaboration given the
difficult circumstances.
difficult circumstances will got to work as a community. It
takes a village.
For first order of business is the rule 45 report.
for first order of business is the rule 45 report from
februari 16th, 2024, which was
februari 16th 2024, which was email at and handed out to
committee members. Can I get a motion to wreck?
committee members. Can I get a motion to recommend approval
of this report?
So moved by other other person.
Say I all those against the name and the opinion of the
chair the eyes have it the rule 45 report has been
approved.
Now we will move on on the items before the committee item
number.
number 1 is 02024 -
number 1 is 02024 D 00000 7327 the fifth inter governmental
agreement with the Chicago Housing Authority.
agreement with the Chicago Housing Authority extending
option to continue hearing tenant grievances.
option to continue hearing tenant grievances for new 3-year
term plus option for 1 year additional 2-year term
thereafter.
Thereafter Anthony Rizzo from the Chicago Department
administrative hearings.
administrative hearings express it to testify on behalf of
these ordinance along.
this ordinance along with Elizabeth Silas Deputy General
Council for cha.
Council for CA
Yes.
But did we recognize alderwoman mitts and alderwoman Rod?
Rodriguez for the virtual? Yes. I think we did. Okay. Thank
you.
Go ahead.
The Chicago Housing Authority is required by various.
The Chicago Housing Authority is required by various
federal and state laws and regulations to provide a 10 in
grievance.
grievance procedure.
the cha desires to continue to util
The cha desires to continue to utilize the city's
administrative hearing process administ.
and Facilities.
provide these legally mandated grievance hearings
by leveraging the Cadre of trained admin.
by leveraging the Cadre of trained administrative law
judges and existing facilities at the Chicago.
judges and existing facilities at the Chicago Department of
administrative hearings. The CH is able to provide these
hearings in a timely and efficient manner on.
due process rights of tenants are satisfied.
department of administrative hearings.
are issued the cha takes its actions to help the residents
to either Implement what happened at that hearing so
whether depending on based on what that grievance was about
so
about. So for example, if a resident had a issue with Ving
their rent calculation once the decision is
their rent calculation, once the decision is issued we go
back and make sure that the calculations are either
corrected or if the ruling was in C.
corrected or if the ruling was in Cha's favor then we work
with that Resident to get the documentation we need and to
finish.
finish getting those records corrected so that they're
paying the proper rent. That's an example of how we handle
those.
I do track what?
I do track what grievances we send over to the Department.
Um, and then as I said our property management teams and
our you know, the uh portfolio officer property.
our you know, the uh, portfolio officer property and asset
management teams work to make sure that the residents
issues are resolved.
Okay, I
mean through the chair, but I'm I'm curious for for any
metrics that we have particularly related.
that we have particularly related to our frequently
administrative hearing.
um
rules in favor of 1 party versus the other particularly
like tenants
versus the ca not that that's deter.
versus the ca not that that's determining my vote, but it's
we're moving through this very quickly. And so I I'm I'm
fine with what's in front of us today. I would I would like
to understand.
to understand more before we vote it Council. That's that's
everything for me. Thank you chair. Thank you and
go back to the person from Academy.
So
cha has been problematic for years the thought that
literally have nothing and we're having a conversation is
not good enough for me.
not good enough for me, um chairman and so I'm going to ask
that we hold this.
that we hold this item and we bring cha here as a whole.
this this this this
I don't want to keep doing this. I feel like they come to
us when there's a small piece and this is no disrespect to
you or you this is what I'm saying to Cha Tracy Scott is
hole because I don't I don't pick and choose who I talked
to I'm talking to everybody. It is a waste of time for us
to sit here and have this small conversation when they're
bigger issues with cha that we get complaints about all the
time. And so I asked that we hold this until Tracy Scott
and their entire team is here.
and their entire team is here to have a conversation with
us.
I have a motion on the floor to have a second second.
I have a motion on the floor to have a second second, but I
think about the women clay. The item will be.
think about the women clay. The item will be the further
than until the quarterly hearing happens in.
than until the quarterly hearing happens in this quarter.
Thank you very much.
in introduction, uh 0222400 78 81 amendment of Municipal
Code section 244135 by extending expiration.
Code section 244135 by extending expiration date for
demolition S charge to December 3.
demolition S charge to December 31st, 2024. This will
affect the worst.
affect the worst not first word 25th word 26th.
affect the worst not first word 25th word 26th word and the
35th word later sponsor is Alder.
35th word later. Sponsor is Alderman Ramirez Rosa as well
as who will speak.
as who will speak on behalf of this ordinance Lauren start
from the Department of Housing.
from the Department of Housing is also present to answer
any questions from others.
any questions from others almond. Who do you have a
preference on who who goes first?
Clip the coin I like.
Clip the coin. I like to kick off. All right.
Clip the coin. I like to kick off. All right, um, yes, so
this was work that was
critical to my life and to the community long before I
became an older person.
became an older person for Palenque LSN.
became an older person for Palenque lsna witnessing the
impact of the demel.
impact of the demolition of housing.
some of it affordability
Some of it affordability perspective from a sustainability
perspective.
perspective from an in socio social cultural.
perspective from an in socio social cultural impact on the
neighborhood. Uh, they had been working.
neighborhood. Uh, they had been working for years.
to curb unnecessary Dem
To curb unnecessary demolitions. Um
when some of us came into office in 2019
When some of us came into office in 2019, we were able to
put additional effort behind.
put additional effort behind this and actually passed 2
Orden is the time.
Orden is the time with the assistance of dpd in the
Department of Housing.
Department of Housing 1. Uh, that is a permanent Ord.
related to What's called the predominance of the block that
addresses essentially preserving.
addresses essentially preserving the existing density of
our communities on a block by block basis another 1 was
passed on a pilot basis. Um, which is the demolition search
charge that today we're working.
charge that today we're working to extend
Taken together they have been extraordinar.
Taken together they have been extraordinarily successful. I
believe the numbers that we saw most.
believe the numbers that we saw most recently was that we
succeeded in Cur.
succeeded in curbing again unnecessary, not for
succeeded in curbing again un unnecessary not for uh,
unsafe but unnecessary useful hous,
but unnecessary useful housing. We were successful in
curbing Dem.
in curbing demolitions by about 88%
we
We success succeeded at curbing Decon conver.
We success succeeded at curbing Decon conversions by a
percentage about close to that.
percentage about close to that which over performs even the
decline.
decline in demolitions. We saw Citywide and in the
adjacent.
neighborhood.
um
There's preliminary conversations.
There's preliminary conversations around what it could mean
or look like.
or look like to uh build on.
or look like to uh build on the efficacy of that ordinance,
but for the time being and to keep it from lapsing, uh
those of us who have this pilot area in our reward.
those of us who have this pilot area in our rewards are
asking for it to be extended through the end of the year
for us to better judge. Um,
Where we might want to go from?
where we might want to go from here is is what I would say
in it.
Thank you. Yeah, I was just uh add to my colleague.
comments. Um, this is an ordinance that's already on the
books. We are so appreciative to the members of the
housing.
committee, and we're so appreciative to members of the
city.
council for supporting Mr. Chair, I would
council for supporting Mr. Chair. I would ask that. I be
allowed to yeah.
Can I can I ask that we we all we all?
courtesy of listening when someone else is speaking.
Please there were again. We just asked us in this moment of
time.
We had the
please ask again. We want to continue to have a convers.
conversation and we give in the same courtesy in this
meeting cannot speak for previous meetings. So again,
ultimately.
ultimately this was please go ahead. Thank you so much. Uh
Mr. Chair, so this ordinance is on the books.
the parcels are
The parcels are within the city block east of South Cicero.
Avenue.
uh in between South capet
uh in between South capric Kilpatrick Avenue and the north
south Ali
south Alleyway running parallel to the Avenues.
fronting West 5th Avenue
Fronting West 5th Avenue. Um, the vacant Parcels are
within.
a predominantly industrial character area of the Austin
Community area.
so some of that is uh is represented, uh by The
Neighbourhood
Neighborhood context photos. You see here on the screen.
the proposed layout
of the control to access parking lot is shown about
K Town BCP
Will combine the 11 City Parcels with a privy?
will combine the 11 City Parcels with a private parcel
which they currently own.
at the corner to create
the parking lot as shown.
this parking lot is designed in accordance with
zoning and Landscape requirements.
The capacity as you see in the in the right corn.
the capacity as you see in in the right corner, uh for the
parking lot is uh 133 vehicles.
with additional space for handicap parking and uh EV
charging
the parking lot will serve.
the parking lot will serve as a non-necessary parking lot
for an adjacent.
for an adjacent building which is currently under.
construction.
This concludes the presentation for the land disposition at
4704.
4704 through 38 West 5th Avenue. I'll pause.
4704 through 38 West 5th Avenue. I'll pause here from for
any questions from the committee.
any questions from the committee and also note that um the
develop.
developer, uh is here in attendance as well.
Any question Other Woman Taylor?
Oh I miss.
there
There you go.
So, uh, this is a project.
so, uh, this is a project that is
basically in front of the railroad tracks, um
so the building that is adjacent to the the parking lot is
a a brand new construction Phase 2 of the
current current, um development that's in
Current current, um development that's in front. Uh, Stephen
Davis is a developer of street lights and marginal. Well,
they have marginal homes and they do the street lights. So
the lights that you see there in your neighborhood.
the the second decorative light and also the uh, Lumi the
what do they call the solar lights that we have now, those
are all built within.
Uh the wheel group, he's a black.
Uh the wheel group, he's a black uh developer black.
black company black children black wife
I'm a proud. I'm I'm very proud. Um
I'm very proud and so this
I'm very proud. And so this this area reeks of
Street Walkers, it's a Dumping Ground. It is something that
we are trying to.
we are trying to uh reimagine this space.
we are trying to uh, reimagine this space, uh for this
business, uh, it just give the whole Community just a
different light if you see it now, it looks like a total
Destruction of
filth and like a bomb has probably
Filth and like a bomb has probably dropped in that
community. And so he's given this community some life, uh
that has probably been a dumping.
that has probably been a Dumping Ground for the last 30
plus years.
plus years or more. So, uh, congratulations to him and uh
his continued work. Um, he does a lot within the Humble
Park, uh, Humble Park neighborhood, uh,
Park, uh, Humble Park neighborhood. Uh, it inherited homes
is in here as well. It does a lot of modular.
is in here as well. It does a lot of modular homes, uh
throughout the city, so