Good.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Good afternoon, the committee on the committee's Rue.
now called to order.
there are 4
There are 4 items on the agenda. I'll Now call roll.
So please note that your yes or your presence resp?
So please note that your yes or your presence respond will
be de deemed as a yes vote.
be de deemed as a yes vote when the core and roll call is
used as a reference call for later items.
Vice chair Hall
Vice chair Cardona
Can you hear me?
Vice chair napala
Thank you.
all the spot
Autumn spot is present Alderman Hopkins.
ottoman Dow
ottoman Robinson will be on remote.
ottoman Robinson will be on remote ottomani.
Alderman Mitchell
Alderman bill
Allman Chico
ottoman Lee
Alderman Ramirez
I thought I
order the person Quinn.
order
Order person Gutierrez will be by remote alter person.
Lopez.
or the person Coleman
all the person
or the person more
other person Curtis
Okay, I just was told that the clerk's website is.
Okay, I just was told that the clerk's website is down. So
we're just going to pause a minute to allow them.
to come back alive.
and well
chairman Harris
Okay.
I'm gonna start over.
I'm gonna start over all the Miller Spa all the person in
the
I'm gonna start over Altima all the person on the spot.
all the person Hopkins
all the person down all the person Robinson is request.
remote Alder person yans.
remote Alder person Yancey.
Vice chair Hall
Is the audit.
Is the audit person why in the room?
all the person Bill all the person Chico
all the person leave all the person Ramirez.
all the person Quinn
all the person Gautier
all the person Gutierrez
off the person Gautier
off the person Gutierrez requested remote all the person
Lope.
Lopez.
all the person Coleman
all the person more
or the person Curtis
all the person OSHA
all the 1
alderwoman Taylor
all the person Mosley
All the person. Okay all the person why is present
all the person uh rod
all the person uh Rodriguez
All the person to bar.
all the person to bars
all the person Scott has requested remote also.
all the person
uh CEO Lopez
all the person who went test
all the person Bernett
other person bet
all the person Irvin
all the person talifero
all the person Cruise
All the person Vice chair. Uh, uh
all the person Vice chair, uh, uh, Cardona all the
wage pack.
Thank you all the
Thank you. All the person Rodriguez Sanchez requested
remote.
remote order.
Okay order
Okay, all the member in net is present.
okay, all the member in net is present all the uh
all the person Conway
Press all the person Ramirez. Rosa has requested remot.
Press all the person Ramirez. Rosa has requested remotes.
Alderman Hall, okay Alderman Hall Vice chair Hall is now
present.
Alder person V Aus has requested remote.
Alder person V Aus has requested remote all the person
admits has requested remote ottoman spousal.
alderman nent
Alderman Vasquez
Vice chair enpal
Alderman Reilly
alderman canson
Alderman Lawson
Alderman Gardner
present
Okay.
okay remote
all the person clay
Are the person Martin?
or the person man of hopping worth
or the person hadn't
or the person Silverstein
sheer Harris is present.
We have 30 minutes.
We have 30 minutes members present. We have a quorum.
older person's Robinson
older persons Robinson Gautier Rodriguez Scott rod
Sanchez Ramirez, Rosa, uh Alderman V person viegas mitts
and Alder.
and Alder person Gardener have requested to attend by
remote.
remote under roof 59 due to unrelated cir.
remote under roof, 59 due to unrelated circumstances. Um
Alderman OSHA moves due pass that they be allowed to
uh participate by a remote means
um all those in favor signify by I
All those opposed the eyes have it.
Those aldermen will be allowed to attend this meeting by.
remote meetings and will be added to the roll call used to
deter.
determine quorum.
At this time, we'll begin the public.
At this time, we'll begin the public comment period out of
respect for everybody's time. Each speaker is limited to 3
minutes.
um
Um, and there are no virtual speakers. So our first speaker
is natash.
is Natasha Gray.
Hello.
Hello again, uh, I just had a number of things. I wanted to
speak on.
speak on in regards to how the meetings are held but
I wanted to speak on.
the
The meeting that you all held when you held a vote.
The meeting that you all held when you held a vote for you
all for all the alderman.
all for all the alderman to decide if we the people were
going to get a vote. We're going to be able to vote.
If we wanted to be a sanctuary City or not.
I don't understand. Why why you have that?
I don't understand why why you have that authority to take
that privilege from us as constituents being able to vote
for something is the heart of our political.
for something is the heart of our political Arena. So I
don't understand why that was done.
don't understand why that was done for all of you. All that
voted. Nay. You should be held accountable and you should
have to uh,
explained to the public
Explain to the public why you voted? No, it shouldn't just
be.
be oh, you know 30 was it 36 of us said, you know.
be oh, you know 30 was it 36 of us said, you know don't
want it to happen. So, you know, just screw.
want it to happen. So, you know just screw this extension
once
the majority of Chicago didn't even
The majority of Chicago didn't even know that it was even
possible that we may be able to vote.
possible that we may be able to vote if we wanted to
continue being a sanctuary City.
continue being a sanctuary City and even if we were going
to be uh, remain a a
Sanctuary City, you know if there's some way that you know,
it could be twe.
it could be tweaked. It shouldn't be just that, you know,
we allow the people to come here.
know, we allow the people to come here and just bleed the
city of resources.
It doesn't make any sense that.
a vote was had
to take away the rights.
to take away the rights of your consents. We don't even
have a choice.
have a choice and how these uh meetings are.
have a choice and how these uh meetings are uh conducted
forgot. This gentleman's name.
forgot. This gentleman's name, but when you see a certain
group of people coming here, you see all their people
signing up now you want to change the time.
now if you're going to
Now if you're going to allow more people to speak fine, but
you should not be.
you should not be reducing the time that people get to
speak because you see a certain demographic that
demographic of people.
demographic of people come in and you want to give them the
uh privy.
uh, privilege of having all their people speak that is
wrong.
There's the these meetings.
There's the these meetings should be held to a higher
standard. You all need a better rule.
standard. You all need a better rule of conduct. I don't
know what your salaries are.
know what your salaries are and I don't really care what
you get paid as long as you're doing your job.
but when you come in here you should be
But when you come in here, you should be prepared. It's it's
a real slop.
a real sloppy you when you come in here. You should be
prepared to.
prepared to speak whatever piece you have and conduct with
a business. You have to conduct.
a business. You have to conduct and here wherever you got
to hear from us as if you like it or not. You come in here.
You should already understand that you're going to be
opposed onto some things maybe everything.
but you should
But you should be ready to come in here and do business.
And the rules and the rule books should not be.
And the rules and the rule books should not be uh able to
be, uh, it shouldn't be as Flex.
be uh, it shouldn't be as flexible as they are.
because it allows for
Because it allows for discrimination.
And it allows you to shut us up.
I don't agree with it.
But that is all.
Thank you. Our next speaker is toan Sims.
Go ahead. Go ahead Mr. Sims. So.
Go ahead. Go ahead Mr. Sims. So just reading last night. Um
this committee pertains to the clerk's office my missed.
this committee pertains to the clerk's office my mistaken.
Or oh, yeah. No.
Or no. Yeah. No, I mean we we handle here and I shouldn't
even speak on a public.
even speak on a public record. But no this is a committee
of the whole.
So just everybody. Okay. Well this this person will but I'm
going to speak about um, it pertains to Domestic Relations
Division. Um you all
Division. Um, you all have a woman over there managing the
office.
office of domestic relation. Her name is Dena Williams.
office of domestic relation. Her name is Dena Williams, um
in August of 202.
in August of 2023, I went there because I'm striving to get
parentage.
parentage with my smaller child is 3 years old. Haven't
seen them in a year. I've been in I've went over there and
Miss Dina Williams Miss directed Me, Miss.
Miss Dina Williams Miss directing me. Miss guided me and
ultimately just mistreated me.
ultimately just mistreated me and for her to be the manager
there.
and she utilized her subordinates to do this also, so
Her this basically her weaponizing a whole.
Her this basically her weaponizing a whole division of
people against an independent father. That's just trying.
people against an independent father. That's just trying to
be with his child.
Um, I was there yesterday also and seeing miss Dina
Williams.
Williams and though I acted a fool. I feel it was
necessary.
Because I was called y'all.
because I was called y'all the time the first time where
she just head away with me.
And I don't see how a person like, that should be.
And I don't see how a person like that should be in a
position of authority not only her though.
position of authority. Not only her though. It's other
individuals there. I recorded these events.
individuals there. I recorded these events and I just find
that disheartening.
And I'm still without my child right now. Um
at this moment
At this moment, it's been now. What a year and
A year and a month now this month.
So it's like what do we do?
as Citizens
like what do we do because
like what do we do? Because I can't fight against the
Domestic Relations divisions I got
Domestic Relations divisions. I got judge trobridge against
me void a host.
me void a host of individuals that have power that I don't
possess.
resources that I don't possess
and I'm up against 2 months.
So I feel that.
So I feel that by coming. I'm I'm preferably all the
ultimates can hear me.
ultimates can hear me and all the almonds are concerned
with this because right now
they got their foot on my neck, and I want to see my child.
I do I would love to be with.
I do I would love to be with my child. My father God is
giving me these 2 kids to be.
giving me these 2 kids to be stewards for and I want to do
that and I don't want to have to wrestle with a whole
division of people to do.
division of people to do that for a whole year. I know that
the narrative is black.
the narrative is black, you know, we black men. We don't
want to be fathers. We don't want to.
want to be fathers. We don't want to Father our children.
We just want to screw and go.
But that's not the truth.
So once again, I'm here to to speak on the narrative that
just don't.
just don't fit.
the mold
and Miss once again, Dena Williams
and Miss. Once again, Dena Williams over at Domestic
Relations is the 1 that
Relations is the 1 in my neck. She's the manager her and I
will say the um,
upper management
also troll bridge who allowed for
a I don't even know how this woman got a
when I came for the order protection. It's so much the
talk about
but I just want to talk about that domestic Arielle.
but I just want to talk about that Domestic Relations
Division because so many young men go into that place.
Division because so many young men go into that place
expect them to be helped.
And I have a woman.
And I have a woman like that at the helm. It's no good.
Thank you Mr. Sams. Our next speaker is George Blake Moore?
Oh.
Don't go there mister.
Okay, Mr. Blakemore, go ahead. Yeah.
This is the first time this is history.
that Michelle Harris decided
That Michelle Harris decided to have a Rules Committee.
Well, all the ultimates are
members of the rules committee how
Members of the rules committee. How did she bring in you?
See that ultimate right there?
See that ultimate right there check out.
Right there those 2.
Right there those 2 talking stop it.
How did she do that with the?
How did she do that with a lot of us?
well, well the
Well, well the first day she did the same thing it.
Well, well the first day she did the same thing it was.
the rules committee all the ultimate then she reseted it
and then made up some more rules without.
and then made up some more rules without any public
participation and then the deficit look at the stop it.
participation and then the deficit look at the stop it cut
out Westman and I here
stop it.
then she have a death to say the sergeant a
Then she have a death to say the sergeant above has power
to make the rules.
to make the rules only you all have power to make the
to make the rules only you all have power to make people.
only
what I I was listening at the news and it said
What I I was listening at the news and it says that the
charging of all now have the power.
charging of all now have the power to to let the Altar and
score people.
escort people into this chain.
He doesn't have this.
He doesn't have this power.
the power lies with
See, I've been having these meetings here.
so somebody checking out and say you
So somebody checking out and say you must have a rude
committee She haven't.
committee. She had this committee for years.
Toga Lottery is illegal.
When did she have?
be
and then
Illegal the lottery when when do you have this meeting
where?
where the people could get up and talk about the lottery
all this mess. She the queen bee.
of the rules committee see
of the rules to me see the love the of all
So you make sure?
so you make sure I'm educating you the whole body.
and all of them make you but the
And all of them make you but the queen bee been making all
our own.
the queen bee
and you you talking about a
And you you talking about a beautiful be another?
public?
the right for the rules
the rules committee is made up by all.
the rules committee is made up by all the altars and then
you got rules that say 3 minutes then.
you got rules that say 3 minutes, then you can cut those 3
minutes down to 1 minute. Uh, uh,
You're playing a game. Thank you, Mr. Blake. Warren. Next
speaker is Jessica Jackson.
Um
I just want to know.
I just want to know what are the rules.
Because I don't know what the rules are.
I'm being all the way on honest. I'm not trying to be Tsar.
sarcastic. I'm not being facit. I'm not being any of those
things. I just want to know as a citizen of this city. What
are the rules?
I originally came here over the summer. I'm sure.
I originally came here over the summer. I'm sure most of
you all remember about the probate.
um Division and public administr
Um Division and public administration and how they're still
in our properties through that process.
and what I've learned from trying to deal with that is
there are no rules none.
The judges don't follow rules.
City Hall doesn't follow rules
Cook County doesn't follow rules.
it appears like
It appears like the governor and the United States of
America.
America president doesn't follow rules.
America president doesn't follow rules, which is living in
a ruler Society right now.
And people who are trying to be law.
And people who are trying to be law-abiding citizens find
themselves like me.
themselves like me being constantly frustrated because you
can't get no help.
It's so Des.
It's so disgusting to come in here week after week.
after day.
asking for assistance in a real live situation and being
told by public officials who are supposed to be.
told by public officials who are supposed to be the
legislative body of the city.
There's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can do. There's
nothing I can do. There's nothing I can do.
I'm constantly asking about the money for the south side
and west side economic development.
And being constantly told.
And being constantly told by our aldermen.
There's nothing you can do. There's nothing we can do.
There's nothing we can do. There's nothing we can do all
the way to the point where the president or the black
caucus.
caucus told me.
that the money that I was asking about about the south side
and west side that that money was a hoax.
a hoe
a hoax
so who is the joke on?
so who is the joke on the people who keep voting Democrat
and putting you all in office because clearly that's a
joke. The Democratic party is not helping us.
joke. The Democratic party is not helping us and the fact
that it gets watered down to its the black vote.
because white people vote Democratic to
his
Hispanic due to Asians due to its not just black.
Hispanic due to Asians due to its not just black people but
we get to blunt into that stick like we do everything.
we get to blunt into that stick like we do everything else
and then to come in here and you can't even get people.
and then to come in here and you can't even get people's
attention and you all meet all the time because when you
call your offices you always in meetings so you come in
here and you have to talk and meet some more be on.
here and you have to talk and meet some more be on your
cell phones and all this and that but you can run to the
Border talking about the distress in their eyes, but you
can't even pay attention to the people that talk to
right now, you know you are
right now, you know, you are man y'all need to wake up.
This is
horrible every step of the way every time the way it's
horrible.
Thank you. Miss Jackson. Our next speaker is Michael Young.
Oh.
Oh, man.
rules and regulations
some don't know the rules.
Some don't know the rules. Yeah, that's true. But it's due.
It's people that does such as myself.
That's why I pointed out when uh, the vote is being passed.
So nobody believed.
So nobody believed in out in and out like the MMS incident.
You know and they are right.
you see
It's Des
it's disrespectful to the public because the public is.
paying your bill.
The talk why someone is up?
The talk why someone is up here giving what kind of
presentation or whatever?
presentation or whatever it is. It don't matter what it is
this a freedom of speech.
you
You see if we want to really deal with rules.
You see also been privy.
You see also been privileged in my lifetime even.
You see also been privileged in my lifetime even teach a
class on.
sexual harassment
and people get up here and say something about their
orientation in this body.
That doesn't matter.
That's out of line because you may offend.
That's out of line because you may offend someone that
don't agree with that.
You see it's a lot of rules being breaking. You know that
got changed the rules to 1 minute. Go on our paper it say 3
minutes. We also have and I don't mean to bring it up, but
I got to put it out there.
I got to put it out there, you know what I'm saying? And no
knock on the brother Irvin.
knock on the brother Irvin because he came to us and
apologize, but it's still the process on how to try to ban
off.
our freedom of speech to speak on this money.
Things been going on where you hun?
Things been going on where you hung up together and keeping
us for coming in and I know what it is. I know exactly what
it is because I want the main ones if if
I ain't gonna say 1 of the main ones. I'm the main 1 that
brought attention to.
brought attention to what's really going on down here on
that internet.
People that's being not.
People that's being noticed and things like that that's
coming from Michael Young being more real.
coming from Michael Young being more real news.
I even see.
I even see the mayor reflecting on things that I have put
out there.
out there on their.
but y'all can't continue to
But y'all can't continue to violate nobody freedom of
speech.
and when someone talking that's why I told the
And when someone talking that's why I told the mayor then
at the last City count. Let me get your under.
because that's what we should have.
at least give
Please give us that courtesy. You ain't got to agree with
the person opinion.
the personal opinion or facts or whatever. It may be but
have some discipline.
Have some respect a study a clown.
Have some respect a study of clown over there because
they'll be wrong. I call you a clown.
they'll be wrong. I call you a clown Chico for beep beep
beep, but that's disrespect.
beep but that's disrespectful to that man.
Y'all doing these things and and and y'all may not like how
Mr. Blakemore.
Mr. Blakemore do things hell, I don't like how Mr.
Blakemore do certain.
Blakemore do certain things, but I'm not going to let you
disrespect him to that extent in front of the public view.
We're not going to allow that.
I am a grown man. I ain't.
I am a grown man. I ain't gonna take too much of nothing.
and
And I don't do a lot of talking about it either and I'm not
saying.
saying that there's no threat, but this what need to be
said.
thank
Thank you, Mr. Young made that concludes our public.
as I stated earlier, we have 4 items on the agenda this
morning the approval of the October 23.
2023 and November 23 monthly rule for 45 report for the
committee and committee on rules which was transmitted
electronically to all committee members.
electronically to all committee members if there's no uh
questions, can I get a motion to recommend approval of the
report by the affirmative?
report by the affirmative vote of all members present for
the Roll Call to determine?
the Roll Call to determine foreign by Alderman Hall?
Thank you hearing no objection. So ordered items 1 through
3 our Journal.
3 our Journal Corrections from the Journal of proceedings
for no.
for November 7th. 2023. September 14.
for November 7th. 2023. September 14th. 2023, November 15th
20.
15th, 2023. Um
ordinance 202300000000 6218 or in this 24 2024 0006984 and
ordinance 20240000.
ordinance 202400000078 03 if there are no questions, can I
have a motion to recommend approval of these Journal
Corrections?
chairs. Oh, I'm so sorry all those in favor of
uh, the 20 all the journal Corrections.
uh, the 20 all the journal Corrections along with item
2020.
202030000000. 6218 02 0240000. 6984 and 02024.
202030000000. 6218 02 0240000. 6984 and 02024 0 07838
respond by saying I
all those opposed say nay and the opinion that shares the
eyes have it.
Hearing no.
Hearing no objections matters are approved and will be
reported out for the next.
reported out for the next city council meeting on March
2024.
2024 item 4 is a determination of the appropriate
committee.
for re-rec following ordinance.
for re-rec following ordinance ordinance. 20240000.
for re-rec following ordinance ordinance. 202400000078. 38
sponsor Mayor Johnson.
sponsor, Mayor Johnson issu, uh issuance of General
obligation.
obligation bonds, Andor sales tax
secur realization corporate bonds for the econ
development and affordable housing program. Um who would
like to make a motion to re refer to me now, I would like
to re refer that.
to re refer that item to the appropriate committee and that
appropriate.
appropriate committee for item 4, uh is the re-re
appropriate committee for item 4, uh is the re referral is
the committee on finance? Are there any questions?
the committee on finance? Are there any questions or
comments?
automate
I don't know kind.
I don't know time. Sorry, you know this, um
1.25 billion dollar Bond issuance requires significant
government oversight and as someone who wrote an ordinance
that would provide oversight to co dollars. It was not put
on the agenda obviously at the mayor's insistence despite
being a supported by a majority.
being a supported by a majority of this Council and no
doubt a majority of the city.
and this Bond ordinance and the arp
And this Bond ordinance and the arpa oversight ordinance
really go hand in.
really go hand in hand. We have to have oversight in these
areas. Therefore I ask that we vote no and not
out of out of committee until we can vote both Ord.
out of committee that committee and consider them in
tanned.
tandem. Thank you.
Thank you ought.
Thank you ottoman down.
So I ask that the committee.
So I ask that the committee on vote Yes on this. Uh, this
is these are not uh,
uh
dual ordinances 1 is a grant program and this is uh related
to our bonding capacity and the tip program. They are not
tied together. Um, and the point that uh, Alderman Conway
makes about wanting oversight can be done. Uh, and
through the committee on finance at the appropriate.
that these ordinance come before us. Thank you.
Thank you madam. Chairman
Thank you madam, chairman, uh and all all the women dowels
point.
points all duly noted. I think what Alderman Conway was
intending to to say is that um if we're going to be taking
on 1. 2 5
on 1.25% uh, it is a bit.
on 1.25% uh, it is a bit ironic that that's going to have
to be a transparent process yet. My colleagues ordinance is
not being allowed to have a vote. Um, I'm sure this will
get robust debate.
In the finance committee when this lands.
in the finance committee when this lands there, um, but for
me, uh, I'd rather this proposal remain in rules.
me, uh, I'd rather this proposal remain in rules until
we're allowed to take up our colleagues ordinance at the
same time. Um, and for that reason I'll be voting no to
discharge this from the rules committee. Um again,
discharge this from the rules committee. Um, again, no
disrespect to my colleague alderwoman d
disrespect to my colleague alderwoman Dow. Um, it's just I
think on principle, um, and I don't blame anyone in this
chamber I blame.
chamber. I blame the administration. Um, we should also be
considering Alderman Conway's ordinance today. Um,
That said I I do hope the administr.
That said I I do hope the administration comes to finance uh
prepared to.
uh prepared to answer a lot of questions. Um based.
uh prepared to answer a lot of questions. Um based on my
read, uh this leaves.
read. Uh, this leaves a whole lot up to interpretation as
far as how this money will be spent and the justification
for the size of the program and the dollar amount.
uh it
Uh, it also requires the taxpayer to pay a substantial
amount of money.
amount of money back on the back end at a time when our
bond ratings are faltering. Uh, so thank you. Uh,
chairwoman. I'd request a roll call vote. Thank you.
We could you just hold on to your
Could you just hold on to your motion for roll call just
for a second. So autumn and down can speak Auto Riley,
okay.
But I'd like to address you to speak to go. I'd like to
briefly address.
briefly address the issue of transparency. Um we
briefly address the issue of transparency. Um, we have uh
made sure that the current ordinance on that's being re-re.
re-referred to finance. Um is beginning on the transpar.
path. We started with a briefing of aldermen just on the or
ordinance we've committed uh to a subject matter hearing on
this ordinance specifically.
this ordinance specifically we've reached out as was
requested.
requested by several aldermen during the briefing to have a
discussion with the Department of planning.
discussion with the Department of planning and development
and housing on uh, the potential, uh, fun.
and housing on uh, the potential uh, funding and use of uh,
these dollars once they become available for affordable
housing and econ.
housing and economic development.
projects and everyone's Ward
Projects and everyone's Ward. Um, and my commitment is to
make sure that those discussions continue and a transparent
fashion.
fashion and that each uh, Alderman's issues address.
fashion and that each uh, Alderman's issues address and at
the end of the day you either voted up or you voted down.
the end of the day you either voted up or you voted down,
but there's no need to hold it within rules. Thank you very
much, Mr. Chairman.
all the person more all the
All the person more all the man respectfully.
um,
Thank you chairman. Um.
uh, just hitting on the point that
Uh, just hitting on the point that Alderman, uh chairman
Dow has made I want to thank her.
Dow has made I want to thank her so much. Um, I got her
notice.
notice and and the notice of saying that this is going to
go to a um a hearing before we even get to a subject matter
hearing.
hearing even before we get to a you know vote which is
duly noted which gives us time. Um, hopefully to address
um, our our colleagues Alderman Conway's um,
which is a very important ordinance that we definitely have
to get out of rules because um that Opera oversight money
and the dollars there are critical but um, definitely I I
know you know you got
know you know, you got to use whatever leverage you can and
I respect that because I would probably do the same thing.
Um, but in this case,
Um, but in this case because we get into a subject matter
hearing and where before we go to a vote. Um,
hearing and where before we go to a vote, um, it gives us
time to um advocate
time to um Advocate um for you to get this out of rules
before um,
This item go to a vote.
this item go to a vote and I and I hope um everyone um
worked towards that because it is important that the Opera
money has overs.
money has oversight as well, but I encourage uh my colle
money has oversight as well. But I encourage my colleagues
to let's move this along. Um, so that we can then begin to
have those discussions. Thank you so much. Thank you. Um,
Thank you, dude. Just
a as a matter because it continues to come up this morning
as an unrelated ordinance.
I'm under the impression that all altars were invited to.
the arpa briefings that have been.
the arpa briefings that have been held today. Is that
accurate? I see head heads.
accurate? I see head heads being nodded, correct?
Okay, just
Okay. Just want to I just want to confirm that particular
point.
Point related to oversight and transparency. Thank you.
Thank you, Autumn and Vasquez. Yes. Uh, thank you. Uh Madam
share. Um, I I appreciate the conversation. I really want
to thank chairwoman Mandell. Um, I like some of our members
as people are supposed.
as people are supposed to be elected to be responsible
about the public.
about the public trust and the taxpayer dollar. Um,
about the public trust and the taxpayer dollar, um have
concerns and so I'm glad there is a subject matter hearing
I think when we're talking about how decisions get made we
do need the oversight and transparency to do so, uh, I also
am always concerned when you have an influx of funding
coming to the general fund and we have pensions we have to
pay off so
pay off. So I think we have to talk through all of these
things. Um, I agree with Alderman Moore that it's
absolutely fair that we have.
absolutely fair that we have oversight and uh transparency
as it relates.
as it relates to the arpa spending as
as well
As well. Um, I would say that briefings are not oversight
and transparency. Those are convers.
and transparency. Those are conversations that are internal
as opposed to having public.
as opposed to having public information out and accounting
on what we're doing with these dollars.
on what we're doing with these dollars so that we can all
not only know ourselves but so in our constituents are
asking us what's happening that we have those answers. So I
think those are both Fair things to bring up and just want
to make
wanted to make that point Thank you. Thank you Autumn and
wag.
um
Um, thanks, uh just a question first.
Um, thanks, uh just a question. First of all for Alderman
Conway. What was the um,
timeline and process
Timeline and process that you had expected for your Orden.
ordinance.
To be heard. Yeah, I had um introduced it at the previous.
To be heard. Yeah, I had um introduced it at the previous
meeting.
vice mayor Bernett
Vice mayor Bernett asked to be sent to health.
obviously it
Obviously it came here I immediately.
obviously it came here I immediately sent in a
Email on my Citi account.
Email on my Citi account to chairwoman Harris as well as
the rules committee.
the rules committee asking this to be put on the rules
committee, uh on this agenda.
committee, uh on this agenda and it has not been put on
this agenda.
Does that answer your question pretty?
Does that answer your question pretty much thank you. Um
chairwoman, um
I think in in my opinion.
I think in in my opinion, you know, we have a lot of things
coming up that.
coming up that we're seeing.
uh in terms of the
Uh in terms of the finances of the city being request.
uh in terms of the finances of the city being requested in
terms of expenditures, so we have
um item number 4 which
Um item number 4 which is um, you know, we did receive a
briefing on that.
briefing on that that was about how we were going to spend
the money, but not the
the money but not the fiscal impacts or implications of
that.
that item and I think um making
that item and I think um, making sure that we hear Alderman
Conway's ordinance is imperative before we continue to
March along this path of here's how we're going to spend
this money.
this money that we bring in here side. We spend this money
and this money, uh for multiple
topics that are
Topics that are coming forward. Um
We have the Bears.
We have the Bears asking for Public Funding. We have the
socks.
socks asking for Public Funding. We have probably other
teams.
teams out there as well. Um
we have
a real estate transfer tax
proposed um, and we're spending a lot of time talking about
how we're going to spend those funds but not about the
fiscal impact.
fiscal impacts when we had our briefing on.
this uh issuance of the the um,
sales tax securitization corpore
sales tax securitization Corporation bonds, there was
nobody from Finance their
in our briefing it was dpd and housing.
in our briefing it was dpd and housing and I think that's
fine, but it's not good enough.
So we have to make sure that as we move forward.
So we have to make sure that as we move forward, um
Alderman Conway's ordinance. It's imperative that we hear
that.
um
Um, this isn't a 1-time thing. There's several people in
this body.
this body going back several years who've been looking at
the fiscal.
the fiscal impact of significant Bond deals like this, um,
as well as other ones and they are not Standalone items.
These are all coming.
These are all coming together as um,
These are all coming together as um 1 Major Impact for the
city.
city and I I just want to make sure that we continue to
move his item forward with all speed and and diligence as
we do with this item. Thank you chairwoman.
Thank you. Are there others that wish to speak to this item
before we take a roll call vote on.
before we take a roll call vote on whether we're going to
move this to.
move this to finance.
Okay.
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this because it's been a script in addition.
chairman is a I so this item will be reported.
council on March 2024 there.
council on March 2024 there being no further business
before this committee. Can I get a motion to adjourn by
alderman?
Alderman Mosley all those in favor?
Alderman Mosley all those in favor signify by I all those
opposed nay?
opposed Nays and the chairman of an opinion to share the
eyes have it the next meeting of the city and this meeting
of the committee on committees and rules is adjourned.
Thank you.