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Good afternoon, the meeting of the committee on economic
capital technology developments call to order when Ava roll
call to establish Quorum. Please note that your present
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thank
Thank you, Miss Munoz. I've been informed that 0
participants have signed up for public comment within the
applicable visions of Sergeant at Arms. And also we
received the snow written comments. We do have to in
present in Person Public speakers. The first will be mr.
George Blakemore. We will allow you to allow for 3 minutes
for public participation. Thank you.
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to the citizens of Chicago
Do call world-class City but I hear on the news to say that
Chicago is the most corrupt city in Benicia. No, no, no.
No, not your cargo is New York named George Philadelphia's
Houston. I Heard it Through the Grapevine no on public
radio, but they don't know. Yes they do.
the most corrupt city in America
this
This is SSA.
Bam Bam
You know.
You know, I'll smoke with you at 50 years.
and
And some of you are taking his place doing the same thing
again. Where would it change? This is nothing but a rip off
SSS a mental breakdown. How does it work? Well, they give
him the city but still asleep in that area commercials. Are
they giving him additional tax? Maybe they give him the
mission of service I'm saying it's about the money goes all
to read this thing on her who they want to clean up and be
extra security when they already helped Streets &
Sanitation.
and they
And they help with Chicago Police Department is all a game.
Well, well, when did they vote for who sits on these boys
are set on this board? How many people in the area know
what a SSA?
when you
When you know better you do better they keep their citizens
on inform and engage and that's how they can.
because
Become the most corrupt city in the nation average person
don't know give me a little bit and a pillow around like
they picking up paper a little security or something. It's
a game of cool this political. Happy Salton take some
pallets of this thing cuz they control best money.
Is about the money that's put me, correct?
is
Something is going on with this money and it stinks here. I
didn't make it stink the most corrupt city and the nation
Baltimore now.
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Chicago and the H is beautiful. She has Museum she sits on
the water the lake a beautiful architecture and culture,
but she's a b
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She's corrupt. You see I missed the Blakemore know her
maybe maybe Mister break more than 12. It takes one to know
one cut me off. My 3-minute. This is still having these
meetings at the same time. I want to make a difference stop
it.
You're coming.
your comments
Your comments your time has expired.
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Mickey Mouse Blackmart
our next
Our next speaker is Zoe Lane.
Hi guys, my name is Zoe know when you know, I love is like
more and I'm not here y'all already know 80% of y'all ain't
s***. I don't care but majority of y'all are good, but I
want to talk about this economic thing. So I'm into art. I
love art art is my thing. Like we have an artist back
there. He needs an art gallery. We have a box yet. I want
to look up who that is. I know.
So that is more.
So that is mostly okay. That is all James Baldwin. Also, he
needs an art gallery. He's a senior. He's an entrepreneur
is a very black concerned citizen either Legend a black
Legend. That's a gym and we need him to help our economy
will have our communities we have somebody so we got to
stop asking the government. I have a brand is going to come
to the truth lifestyle. That's why I come in here and tell
the uncomfortable Truth at the end of the day. We all have
our faults as life. But my mission for my grand is mind
your business at I'm about to die. I don't care about the
Democrats or Republicans. I care about taking care of the
seniors and taking care of our own that's like everybody
else takes care of theirs. So
asking so we can bring the dollar into our communities and
somebody please help me get my man an art gallery art is a
lot. I've been our bazelon all about art. We have a gym and
before they do him like they do most of all God controls
and just put it in the museum Smithsonian and we're not
getting any money for we need help. Please help me. He
wants Bridgeport 35th, whatever.
I love the
I love over there, please. Thank you. Love you guys.
Thank you.
Thank you, Joey.
Nerf
The first order of business is approval to get sore 23 2023
monthly report which all members of the committee should
have received are there any questions or comments from the
committee members regarding the report?
see
See, no, no questions. We have a motion to recommend
approved October 2023 monthly report for the same rule call
Boaz was applied to the term Quorum vice-chair Mosey. So so
moves are no directions to order items one through twelve
in the your generous series of appointments every
appointments to the very special service areas introduced
by Mayor Johnson during the September 14th. 2023, October
4th, 2023 and November 1st. 2023 City Council meetings
following individuals are being considered before the
committee.
if
The appointment of Constantino's be totally honest as a
sign of a 16 Greektown commission located in the 34th ward
reappointment of Jonathan Gordon to SSA number 23, Clark
Street, Lincoln Park commission located in the 43rd 44th
ward reappointment of Richard Juarez senior to SSA number
25 Little Village commission located in the 22nd 24th and
25th. Ward's reappointment of Noreen Keeney to SSA number
34 Uptown commission located 46472 48th ward reappointment
of Matthew L Rafi to SSA number 34 Uptown commission
located in 46 47 48 Ward's reappointment of Terry and
Touhy.
SSA
Associated with 34 Uptown commission located 46 47 48 Ward's
reappointment of Carl D Sullivant as a state of a 34 Uptown
commission located in 46 47 48 Ward's appointment of Diwana
and Browns at the same number 50 Calumet Heights Avalon
commission located in the fifth and eighth Ward's
reappointment of Claudia Rodriguez at the same or 25 Little
Village commission located in the 22nd 24th and 25th ward
reappointments of Katelyn D Hurley. Test number 27 West
Lakeview commission located in 30 second 44th, 46 and 47
for reappointment of William F eager to SSA number 47 47th
Street and Cottage Grove commission located on 4th and 20th
Ward reappointment of Elizabeth leefolt SSA. Number 18
North Halsted commission located at 44th and 46 words at
this time, Mark Roshan the assistant commissioner the
department of Planning and Development available to answer
any questions.
are there
Are there any questions for mr. Ocean seeing none dcdt team
has confirmed the support or non-objection from the
following council members with appointments or we
appointments within their respective impacted Ward's Farm
in Lawson on Conway Knutson Rodriguez Scott Cecil Lopez.
Clay Martin Manhattan worth Yancey Harris Robinson & Taylor
What?
most
Most commissioner candidates are unable to appear for
today's meeting. However, I am in support of their
appointments are we appointments at this time with any of
the members of the committee or counselors like to make a
statement or ask any questions signal on if any of the
appointees are we appointees are present would like to make
a statement at this time? Please indicate so already end of
the appointees. Are you make a statement come to the front?
Now you want to get Sky. OK Google problem.
All right. See none of that. The appointees re appointees
would like to make a statement may have a motion to
recommend approval the appointment Sorry appointment for
the same roll call vote as was applied to determine quorum.
how to make
How to make a Terrace or lose hearing or Jackson's so
ordered the do pass recommendation of the appointment.
Sorry, if I'm to be reported out at the next city council
meeting appointees Andre appointees. Congratulations on
your confirmation for the committee and partnership with
the city. We look forward to working with you. You're free
to depart free to stay and see your government at work.
add
I do.
Adam 13 on the agenda is an ordinance to approve the
issuance of a Class 6 be tax incentive for property located
at 5740 North Tripp Avenue Terrance Johnson, the assistant
commissioner Department of Planning Development represents
in support of the item and will be available to answer any
questions. We receive the letter of non objection objection
from alderwoman Nugent regarding this ordinance Terrence.
have a
having
Having trouble opening the file off of this computer.
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I will reach out to everybody who comes they have raffle
tickets for like the bigger ticket items as well.
Okay, so so turn so we're doing this while you're waiting
to get this check issue addressed Ironically in the
economic. Apple technology committee has some different
items and it will come back to you when you texted you
check problems.
so
So let him tell me we're going to move out of order given
that we're facing some type problems right quick. So we
would jump to
items 15 through 40 on the agenda. Our tax levy scope of
services and budget and service provider agreements for
various special service areas introduced by Mary Johnson
during October 4th, 2023 and November 1st 2023 City Council
meetings. The following special service areas are being
considered before the committee for tax levy school bus
services budget and service provider agreements North 15th
special service area number for 95th Beverly located 19th
Ward out of 16 special service area number 23 Clark Street,
Lincoln Park, Michigan located 43rd 44th Ward's in 17th
specialist service area on the 25 Little Village commission
located in 22nd 24th and 25th Ward's number 18 special
service area Edgewater located on 48th and 49th towards
item 19 special service error, 31 greater Ravenswood
located on 40th and 46th and 47th Ward special service area
of a 35-20 15 Lincoln Avenue located at 43rd Ward.
special service area
Special service area 38 North Center located on 47th Ward
specialist service area number 60 W Park located in a 33rd
35th and 39th towards special service number 23 special
Sarah Sarah 71 Rose Lane located in the 9th Ward item 24
special service area number three 63rd Street located 13th
14th 15th 16th 17th and 23rd Ward's a 25 special shirts are
in a 7 Kenzie industrial park located on 14th Ward and I'm
26 special Sarah Sarah's number 10 Back of the Yards
located 1112 15th and 20th Ward. I'm 27 special Sara Sara
din 13th Stockyards located at 3rd 11th 15th and 20th
warts.
26 + 27
it would
they were 28 special service area of number 16 Greektown
located in the 34th Ward number 29 special service area
number 19 power Street located in 49th Ward special service
area number 24 Clark Street Rogers Park located on 49th
Ward item 31 special service are number 27 Lake View
located in 32nd, 4446 and 47th Ward special service area
number 34 Uptown located in 46 47 48 towards item 33
special service are 30
Find Brighton.
Find Brighton Archer located near 12th and 14th towards I'm
34 special service ever. Number 43 Devon Avenue, Locust and
50th Ward item 35 special service area number 4500 3rd
Street Halstead located in the 21st Ward item 36 special
stairs are in a 50 cal yeamon height Avalon located on 5th
and 8th towards the mysterious item 37 special service are
number 54 Sheridan Road located in 49th Ward number item 38
Special Sarah Sarah's number 56 Dash. 2022 Brownsville
located in Third Ward at in 39 special service area 59 Dash
2022 59th Street located in the 14th 15th and 16th Wards
and item 40 special service. Serial, number 62 sauganash
located in the 39th Ward at this time, Mark Roshan
assistant commissioner with the Department of Planning and
Development to answer any questions. Are they any questions
from the members?
It seemed none too easy Titi committee has confirmed the
support or not objection for the following council members
with special service areas within their respective impacted
boards.
Alton Robinson Albany Conway Alderman Rodriguez album is
Scott Aukerman Cesar Lopez ottoman ottoman Taylor only
Quinn from aurola Latias automobile Auto Connection of
Nebraska's older women Rodriguez Sanchez ottoman
ramirez-rosa comen Los in Baldwin Manahawkin worth off of
Maclay on the Martin. Mostly Alderman Silverstein album has
all the women Harris alterman Yancey Auto Manhattan a woman
dial out on the Coleman Alderman Lopez other make a
terrorist woman Nugent. Are there any questions or comments
from the members of the committee?
May I have a motion to recommend passes these items by the
same role call as was applied to establish corn with the
exception of items 26 and 27.
autumn
Autumn LaSpada's, so moves hearing your directions. So
ordered do pass recommendation be reported out the next
city council meeting.
hold
Okay.
Okay, alright items 41 through 59 of the agenda are
directly introduced ordinances regarding scope of services
budgets 2023 tax levies and management agreements for
special service areas.
Adam 41 special service area number to Belmont Central
located in the 30th and 31st words.
stress
Special service error number 5 Commercial Avenue located in
the 7th and 10th towards special service area number 8
Lakeview East located on 44th 46 words.
start
Special service area of a 17 Central Lake View located at
44th and 46 Wards Road. Number 22 Andersonville located on
40th. 4748 Wards are in a 28-20 14 Six Corners located in
45th Ward special service area of a 29-20 14 West Town
located in the first 27.
in 36 words
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Special service area number 33 Wicker Park Bucktown located
first 27th, 32nd wards.
I don't.
I'm 49 special service are number 42 71st Street Stony
Island located in the 5th 7th and 8th warts or 50 special
service error. E47 Cottage Grove located for open 20th
Wards and 51 special service area number 48. Old Town
located on 2nd and 27th towards Adam 52 Special Service
Area 51 Chatham located in 6 8/4 and 53 special service
error number 52-27 E150 51st Street located in the 3rd and
20th Ward's item 54 special service area number 63 West
Humboldt Park.
local
Located in the 27th and 37th wards.
I'm 50.
I'm 55 special series are in 72 Chicago Avenue cultural
Corridor located in the 28th and 37th towards I'm 56.
Steph
special service error number 73 Chinatown in 11th ward
Social Serve
special service every number 76 North Michigan Avenue
located in the 2nd and 42nd wards.
number 58 special service area number 77 West Garfield Park
located in the 28th Ward at M59 special service are number
80 Englewood located in the 16th and 20th Wards at this
time Mark Roshan assistant commissioner with the program
Planning Development available to answer any questions any
questions from the members to mark
Okay, I've seen no questions dcdt team has confirmed the
support or not objections from the following council
members of special service areas within their respective
impacted boards on the middle spot Alderman Burnett's
Alderman Robinson on Hopkins on Munhall old woman dialogue
with them. It's ultimately all the women Taylor on Irvin
ottoman Riley old woman Coleman on Lawson on the viegas
only Cardona on Chico Alder women Cruz almond Lawson over
Maclay alderwoman Manahawkin worth of Logan Vasquez, Martin
Altima Garner Hollow Man Harris alterman Yancey, Mitchell.
Harley Quinn
request
Any questions or comments from the members of committee?
sing
Signum have emotions recommend a passive item that same
roll call was applied to establish a quorum almond the
Almond Lisa moves, you know Jackson's to order to do pass
recommendation. We've pointed out that the next city
council meeting.
I did.
Adam 60 and 61 62 63 on the agenda organs to authorize the
extending of terms a largement or the establishment of
special service areas, the 2023 tax levied the 2024 budget
and service provider agreement item 60 special service are
number 18 North Halsted located at 44th and 46 words. I'm
61 special service area, 4400 3rd Street Beverly located
19th Ward. I am 62 special service area number 61.
cast
2023 Hyde Park located in the Fourth and Fifth Ward item 63
special service are number 69 95th Ashland locate in the
17th 18th 19th and 21st Mark Wilson. Just a commercial
Department of planning is available to answer any questions
or any questions from the members.
Take the ACT team has confirmed the support. I'm not
objection from the following council members of special
service areas within their respective impact Awards. Almond
Lawson although Maclay Automotive Shay Robinson Alderman
Yancey more Altima Curtis Alderman mostly are there any
questions or comments for the members of the committee?
Sing nothing. I have a motion to recommend passive the
record recommend passive. These items are the same roll
call was applied to establish Quorum ottoman Napolitano. So
I moved here no directions to order to do pass
recommendation be reported out the next city council
meeting.
mark
Mark while we're here. Can you speak with all the womanly
regarding 22 items please? Thank you.
call
What is a gentleman item number 27 which is a special
service area number 13 Stock Yards located in the third
11th 15th and 20th Ward's alderwoman Lee has informed me
that that item is good to go.
We are still going to hold.
Item number 26 special service area number 10. So may I
have a motion to recommend item number 27 for the same roll
call reply to establish Carmel to cardona's so so moved
here. No directions so ordered
Two colleagues. I think we have to put some more money in
the tech budget for the dpd. So while we're waiting.
So what?
So what we'll do is we will go ahead and have the
presentation without the visuals. However, all we can do is
have Terrance email us the the deck and then we will if you
have any questions, you can go ahead and send them his way.
Terrence
good morning. Can I get some members of the committee for
the record? My name is commissioner within Department of
Planning and Development. I'm also joined here by Jeff
engstrom in Norcross representing the development team.
Today to request approval of a disciplinary Classics be tax
incentive renewal for Infiniti operations LLC who purchased
the property located at 5740 North Tripp in 2021 for the
purpose of relocating Compass Transportation School Bus
Company operated by Infinity come between has moved moving
moving or has moved seven employees to Chicago from Skokie
related to this to this project. The product is located in
the 39th Ward with in Northpark community area on a woman
Samantha Newton has provided support for the project.
That's
I can purchase the 75,000 square foot building in September
of 2021 for 4.2 million and has invested another eight
hundred twenty five thousand in renovations a portion of
the renovated renovation included the demolition of a
portion of the building to create more bus parking for
compass in the company as was previously located in Skokie
Skokie and currently employs a 100ft ethernet to Speights
adding an additional 50 ft. He's over the next five years
in addition to Compass the building currently houses two
other tenants when a woman's clothing designer a parallel
and Lee Nail Supply online.
to the
Is acquiring the property in 2021?
that
That's the total investment in the property was is 5
million dollars including 4.2 million hours in acquisition
and the additional 825 and Rehabilitation cost estimate was
financed with a combination of debt and Equity just made it
text 12-year text savings are $781,000. And the city Cher
is 180000.
TV
DVDs in support of the project that has brought more than 5
million in investment to the North Park Community area. The
project will result in 100 new jobs based in the city and
potentially an additional 50 jobs over the next 5 years.
Thank you.
Thank you for your favorite consideration of this request.
I am here as well as Jeff to answer any questions that the
committee may have.
Thank you Terrance. Are there any members from the
committee have questions?
Have a question Jeff as relates to some of the construction
on. Can you talk a bit more about the project as to how
many jobs are retaining how many jobs are creating what
type of construction if any is taking place in what type of
mwbe participation the bulk of the construction work has
already been completed. This was purchased back in the end
of 21. So there aren't
What kind of job?
A ton of jobs left for that for that for that process.
However, he does have some projects left on the back end of
that. I just spoke to them this morning about about m b e w
p participation he is mentioned that he still needs to work
on the outer edge of the project Landscaping in the fencing
and things like that and intense too intense a higher mbwb
contractors. I'm beyond that he did mention that he has an
ongoing relationship with m d w b e contractors in his
day-to-day operations. He spends by his estimate about
$100,000 a year in tire services and office supplies at the
end bewb contractors in the city on this is after moving
from Skokie. So he intends to continue that relationship
with mbwb contractors going forward, but the bulk of the
project frankly it was completed.
Play it.
play at the
Play at the beginning of 2022. So the Demolition and the
hard cost there that though they did not have them BWB
participation and just and just so you know how to
Mitchell.
Goodbye.
Yeah, I would I would have to get that information but I can
provide that right now. Yes, I can the eyeglass so it gets
up. Yeah, I will I will work on it. As soon as this is
adjourned now will get that information to the to the to
the committee Jeff as relates to the remaining work. We
need we need a reason to have a commitment from you guys
that you guys are utilizing and bees and WB speak with
faith effort and then just so you know as as an annual
basis thanks to all my Metro myself. We introduced an
ordinance that requires the recipients of these incentives
to come back and annual basis to talk about to spend of
mwbe plus the job at tainment and retain your attention as
well. So we look forward to seeing all the
stop
jobs
job that you're retaining and also the ones that you're
creating shirt. Yeah, and I can tell you that the business
is growing school bus company. I think they're they're
doing quite well, and so they intend to hire many more good
more drivers for CEFCU and thank you for choosing having
your client to Chicago as dark. I've had worse than any
other questions from members.
direct questions
great questions for Terrance
letter
return to Santos that deck for everybody. Okay. All right.
They have a motion to recommend pass of this item by the
same roll call with apply to establish quorum.
I almost.
Homeless person moves here. No directions so ordered
thank you for the additional information. You might if I go
through Terrance, do you want me to send that? Okay,
perfect. Thank you so much. Thank you.
rightly
Right, ladies and gentleman item 14 on the agenda is an
ordinance to approved the issuance of a Classics be taxes
on a property located at 2017 and 2027 West Chicago Avenue.
This project is very familiar. This is an item that was
passed during our last committee meeting. However, the
substitute ordinance was not made available for members
reviewed during a meeting you all should you should you
should all now have the substitute oranges for your review
therefore based on the law departments recommendation. We
were we were we consider this item
we have a
We have ammo.
We have a motion to consider this item Alvin Cardona somos
or no directions to order may not have a motion to accept
the substitute ordinance vice-chair Mosey. So moved here no
directions to substitute ordinances accepted Terrance
Johnson the assistant commissioner in Department of
Planning and Development are 2% on substitute ordinance and
answer any questions additionally summer.
Isabella
The development team are here along with legal counsel,
Jerry Siegel owner as well as Maura charges attorney.
I can.
Academic definition of Jager some members of the committee
on economic capital and Technology development for the
record. My name is Terrance Johnson assis commissioner of
the Department of Planning and Development as much and I'm
also joined by Jay Siegel and Midway movie Amar George's of
Georgia Center Wiki both representing the development team
again as a chair Mitch and presented this was back in
October as well. The request he is for a classic be
property tax incentive for Midway Moving and Storage for
the property located 2017 at 2757 West Chicago.
The project is located in the 36th Ward within the West
Town community area Altima Villegas and supportive of the
project.
Are the applicant intends to repurpose 30,000 square feet
of interior space for its existing facility. It's a storage
lockers for both residential and Commercial users. The
party will also continue to contain moving a commercial
relay location services along with document destruction and
Records Management Services.
The project will be fine.
The project will be funded with borrow funds included in
the heart calls are elevator and sprinkler system
improvements along with the lock Locker storage systems.
Yes.
Estimated 12 your tax savings to the African is 1.2 million
with City share of that be about $278,000.
again
Again, DVD is supported by this project that will assist in
the continued viability of a local business that has been
operating for over 30 years. The project will create 29 new
full-time jobs over 5 years and bring approximately 5.3
million in investment to the Westtown community area.
Again, thank you for your reconfirmation of your support of
this project and in the substitute on this here to answer
any questions that you have any questions from committee
members.
Avocado bacon Sherman, where are the owners with
application through the assessor? Cuz I see hear a response
reassesses determine that became determined that the
application for class 6p classification or renewal in
pursuing the county. So they applied already did it get
their answers yet. So as soon as his commission Deputy, so
the process goes ain't they have to apply with the county
assessor's office get a timestamp before they start any
work and then the last part of that application and they
have to get
approval from the municipality
Approval from the municipality which is what just happened.
So you have a station with the county starts the entirety
of the process. So they've already submitted once they get
the approval here and you're in the area and idling
ordinance that's where they will go back to the county and
then the rest of the county process happens after that
generally. Well, there is no continue. Usually it's you
know, what's the municipalities give Express support?
the county follow suit
is there a is there still a disconnection with the city and
the county when we process?
This ordinance and they or its process the application a go
back to the county. Is there a good time starts clicking
when State file the appeal through the assessor's office
time clock starts. So by the time they get the application
back or the the oranges back to the city or the city gives
it to the county. What's the time frame between that until
that because remember there's a opening window and the
county for 3 months spare time. Will they get it between
whenever that Township I think is what Chicago or they're
located at where they have it on time so I can so I can be
processed because I seen in the past there's a disconnect
between City.
County was I talkin to the other that's why.
You when you made that expression that I kind of feel like
it's still don't know. I just wanted to answer the question
I asked so it depends in terms of timing of some of these
projects are new bills from the beginning. So the incentive
doesn't start until they submit a request for to be
reassessed at that point in time. Sometimes that takes 3
months. Sometimes I can take a year-and-a-half. I just all
depends on the project. Okay. Thank you.
the other key
The other questions from members of the committee.
Right signal questions have a motion to recommend passages.
I substitute ordinance the same roll call was applied to
establish quorum.
Autumn Lisa moves, you know Jackson so ordered to do pass
recommendation be parted out at the next city council
meeting. Thank you.
All right our last item.
I'm sick.
I'm 64 on the agenda is a subject matter hearing update on
the guaranteed basic income pilot program the following DF
SS staff will provide testimony on this matter Jonathan
Ernst first Deputy Commissioner Mark Sanders, Deputy
Commissioner and Sara Lee summer.
prodigy
A project manager and just for the newer members that are
here this committee embarked on this initiative back in
March of 2021 when the city of Chicago received 1.9 billion
in American Rescue plan funds and this committee held
hearings to determine whether or not the city of Chicago
should take a look at incorporating a guarantee basic
income pilot program in the city of Chicago given the fact
that there was a 1.9 billion in federal dollars that was
earmarked to help rescue people during the pandemic as
results of the committee's work. It was incorporated into
the 2022 budget that poop for the pilot program for one
year and here we are one year plus later and I can tell you
that based on some of the information that I've been able
to see and which now the members will see it was a
successful program.
and I think
And I think something that at some point the bodies to look
at re-establishing offer 2024 moving for so with that I'll
turn it over to the DFS staff who can talk about the
Garrity basically computer program of the city that had
embarked on. Thank you.
Yeah, thank you German and thank you to the members of the
committee. Thank you for having us here to talk about the
Chicago Bears doing community pilot program that yes has
just wrapped up a final payments were made a few months
back. So I am the first Deputy Commissioner of the
Department of Family Support Services. My name is Jonathan
Ernst Mark Sanders the second Deputy Commissioner of
Workforce in human services.
Okay.
Okay, so that's why I'm so
So quick background, so this program was to provide up to
5,000 low-income Chicago household $500 a month for a
period of twelve months. We got an extremely strong
response with a three-week period that the application was
open. We got 176,000 applications and I think that they
just really speaks to it to the need out there.
the program really that the basic requirements that was that
the household had to be in Chicago had to
hey.
had to have a member over the age of 18 and the the family
income was no more than 250% of the federal poverty level
and then also because of the source of the funding the
family had to attest that they had experienced some sort of
economic hardship from covid.
What?
one
want to start with a sort of a a story of one of the
participants, so
the
This is one part participant Zendaya was a mother of three
is a mother of three living the far south side of Chicago.
She has a full-time job working nights in addition to that.
She picks up to extra shifts every week to to make and meet
ends meet because of that. She's not eligible for other
public benefits. She does make ends meet but really she's
in that situation where if anything goes wrong, she's not
sure where she's going to be able to come up with that that
the additional funding that she needs when when we spoke
with her early in the pilot.
she
She said that her go.
She said that her goal was to catch up on utility bills pay
off some of her debts and repair her credit and that's sort
of a story we're hearing throughout. The people are really
what they're trying to do is just get their feet back on
the ground.
fine
Fine, so go into the goals of the program. You can read
here provide Financial relief improve just the residence
while being transformed City Human Services. So that's
really weird looking at a different way of providing
support very different than most of our federal and state
grants allow us to provide support and then the fourth
building a field to practice that's really around. I'm this
is a movement across the country and we are one piece of
that providing a really significant data around what
successful what isn't successful as as programs like this
move on but those three words their flexibility and
efficiency. That's really what this program is about giving
the individual the choice on how they need to be spending
their money.
So to pull off this program, we we needed to make a number
of decisions upfront around things like eligibility Target
a participant's the population we working with and so
brought a whole group of of of parties together to do that
cuz he appear a really really 37 member Advisory Group that
included City leadership Community Advocates policy experts
and people with lived experience. And so that's a visor
Council along with the UC inclusive economy lab Harbor
government performance lab
and then our partners we aren't we add to our peace one for
the administration of the program that was awarded to give
directly and aid kit and then we had another RFP
specifically for the community outreach portion of this and
that went to YWCA of Metro Chicago. So this this group met
regularly to really make determinations on what you see in
in the Triangle to the left of the learning agenda the
eligibility of the program how we're going to perform the
Outreach activities and ultimately the lottery that we
do
Design House
Designed how that was going to work to actually make the
two selections.
Give me that.
With that I will hand it over to mark. All right. Thank
you.
So the important thing about that The Advisory Group in the
spirit of collaboration that happened throughout this
process for me. That's one of the main things that made
this program. So successful. I thought this diving into the
eligibility criteria that Advisory Group weighed in on
whether or not we would make sure that the household income
level fell at 250° percent of the federal poverty line for
a little bit of context family of three at the time that
the pilot was launched that was $57,575 for a family of
three 33975 for single resident and soul just to expand a
little bit more when you think about the treasury, they
allowed for 300% of the federal poverty line we chose to
leave it at 250 just so that we could be clear that there
was a wide variety of end.
Do that.
Shows that were participating in the pilot, but then also
making sure that the researchers could see how this program
would impact different people at different income levels.
And then just to show how that 300% still just shows that
Gap Zenaida the individual that we talked about earlier.
She would not have qualified for most of our programs if we
didn't raise it to that 250% level whereas for a program.
We usually keep it at about 50% of the area median income
right now. We've been able to raise it to 80% of the area
median income. Just leave the lot of families out and so if
we would have left it at 300% of the poverty level if you
had a two-income household that was making minimum wage
working full-time. They still would not be qualify for the
program because they would be right above right above the
250% threshold yet still under the 300% poppy level. So
just to give you some context as to the type of families.
eligible
Eligible for the program where the individuals at still
weren't able to participate next light, please.
It's all we think about the application requirements. We
wanted to make sure that they were both barrier and burden
conscious. We wanted to minimize the burdens by making sure
that applicants can start the process come back to it
whenever they have questions. They had a pre verification
process where if you just input certain data points about
yourself you be able to
I know immediately what?
Know immediately, whether not you qualify for the program
and then make a decision on completing that application. We
wanted to make sure it was inclusive and Equitable. So we
chose a mobile-first platform. I wanted to make sure it
could be self-administered or existed. Like I said many
people had several questions about the process and so our
Outreach teams were located throughout the city to make
sure that individuals that need to come in to have their
questions answered about the application. They could do
that with a local organization or person that they trusted
to help them complete the process. Finally. There are we
wanted to ensure he's a verification. So the mobile
documents that we need it for eligibility verification. You
can just take a picture and upload them on the application.
And we also have leveraged cross program eligibility
options for to ease that paperwork burden.
how
How long is the presentation we have a way to the end? And
then finally, they test all Corners. We have Broad City
Wide advertising and media engagement. And then we also had
hyper local and Community specific engagement. Like I said
those the RP that I selected respondents for outreach and
engagement. They set up locations throughout the city of
the Chicago to make sure that individuals that had
questions and needed.
Call with the application.
With the application to get that in real time.
so he
So here you see.
So here you see a just a little snapshot of the selected
participants all all Wards were represented. The average
median household income was 14000 and the average age of
the applicant was 39 and the average household side. The
median household size. I should say was to
are we have a Snapchat of the spending data and you can see
just for the people that chose to participate in the
research requirements and chose to have a debit card that
was reviewed and monitored just to track the spending are
you see that? Most of the cash was used as cash withdrawals
most people spend money on food and groceries paying off
debts, and then also paying off their phone bills and other
bills
and then finally the initial impact of the program as we
said there is a research component to this the inclusive
economy lab. They are our research partners and they did
some initial start being on the the individuals in their
their needs and their spending habits and they asked them
what they plan to spend their income on a most of them
reported that they'd be sending spending it on rent and
housing.
the next highest
The next highest was utilities are in as they they did a
follow up a follow-up survey and they saw that the the
actual spending habits aligned with those initial surveys.
last
Lastly we want to talk about the work that we did and
connecting with our 5,000 participants. It was really
important to us that we stayed engaged with them each month
through those Pathways give direct their program
administrators were doing the monthly cervezas. Deputy
Sanders said in that time they could report back on their
spending habits. I also provided a space for them to give
us feedback and how the program was going concerns. They
had this is how we were able to hear how some of our
participants are moving forward. It was great our monthly
resource newsletter not only five thousand of our
participants got that but 57,000 of the people who applied
also asked to receive this newsletter every month. We sent
out just your simple newsletter three local state programs
that were open to them programs that would be effective in
helping them build their economic stability as well. We
have really really high and Gage my each month in that
newsletter. We also additionally decided to connect
personally with a phone call. So we
2300
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2300 participants that said they would like to hear from us
more and we reached out to a personalized phone call and
was able to speak with them about their needs food
utilities housing of course were the top three needs at
each one side. So we were able to provide additional
referrals to that as well don't want to talk about the work
that we did with the benefits protection. We know
guaranteed income is meant to supplement the income and not
replace income. So it was really really important for those
individuals that were enrolled in benefit that we kept that
protected for them snacks and access I were to that we
particularly needed to work on SSI. We need to find private
funding in order to do that. Our team. Our leadership
worked really hard to secure that private funding and
through that snap was protected and SSI. We were proud to
say that we were the first city ever to have that exemption
paved way in order for SSI to be protected, too.
And then our off-boarding intern ensure that our
participants were able to keep up with the success that
they had over the course of the year and receiving the
payments. We did an extensive off-boarding ramping with
them as well. We send out another survey asking for the
referrals that they would like to see and we had really
really high engagements for those that wanted to continue
financial literacy with the treasury's office Operation
HOPE inside program. They can meet in a group coaching
setting of one-on-one settings talk about credit scores.
Sing benefits enrollment. We provided referrals to greater
Chicago Food depository legal aid Chicago and then really
really high enrollment with people keeping up with that is
to
and lastly just another participant that we had that we
were able to work closely with Christopher was an active
participant and he just provided us great feedback and how
this program did better for him.
Now we are open for your questions. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you for that presentation. And again, this
is something that this committee started in 2021 and really
excited to see it actually come to fruition at the time. It
was the largest in the in the country.
It still might be a large Center country for one year
appropriation. I think the county tried to outdo Us by
making it a multi two-year program set of a one year. So we
still have an opportunity to to beat them. So if we so wish
but again, this is something that the committee wanted the
irony at the time was although it came online could have
gone online a lot quicker had the previous administration
been a lot more wanted to get this done so but
Where he?
We're here. We hope this.
We're here. We hope this Administration takes a look at it
with the information that was provided. I was happy to see
that, you know, a lot of the myths and and that are out
there around programs like the kind of debunked here. I
wish that in our discussion, you know, 25% of the
recipients chose to use credit cards vs. Direct Direct
Direct enrollment direct pay enrollment cuz I would really
like to see more data around tracking of spending because I
think maybe as we move forward with the next program,
hopefully that there's an opportunity to require at least
50% of the respondents to use a credit card. So then again
we can kind of track the data get information around that
input for policies Based on data data is great to use for
policies as well. I've got 160 100 176000 been applied.
do
Do I.
Do we know how many of those 176000 were actually eligible?
The program so we we don't know we only know based on who
completed their application. They had their pre-screening
so we could tell based on that who was eligible. Okay and
of that, that's how we selected the people for the process
program. Okay, and I'm just curious as to whether or not
that hundred Seventy-Six thousand.
where
We're all.
Where all eligible for this program so but we didn't do an
analysis as we as we continue to have that the folks that
we determine whether they were out of bolts up. Okay, I'll
demand of Sparta.
Thank you very much cheer. I'm really glad Denver won for
your advocacy on the space number to that. We had the
financial wherewithal to be able to do this program. Just a
few questions for your number one. I was very curious when
I was looking at.
current
Current housing situation on the selected participants
slide. Why did we decide to measure rent or own together?
Because I feel like those those two represent very
different categories of housing stability.
Mark Sanders Deputy Commissioner Workforce human services,
so we don't have a have a answer for that, we can confer
with the the research team just to see why we chose that
metrics but as far as the ability we were really just
focused on people that had a place to stay and actual
address. And then also those that were unstable a house and
then those that were literally homeless, I feel like I
recall at the time and I could be wrong.
remembering the
Remembering this the commissioner has he had talked about
there. Also being a a control group is a group that we were
monitoring following that was not receiving direct cash
assistance. Do I remember this correctly? What is the date
of that we have on that group?
strawberry
the probe
the program survey that you see or actually know if it's
not on the sides yet. However. The first look report is
forthcoming and we can actually share that with you as far
as how the impacts of be the people that were in the
control group how that compares to the the folks that were
inside the in the program. We are expecting that that
report soon. But the research around this is going to go
all the way out to 22 June of 2025 when the when the you've
finalizes their impact evaluation, so
they
They are looking over a very long. Of time of being packed
both on those participants and and the control group and I
appreciate that. It was concerning to me. I understand why
we were doing this from a social science perspective. It
was always slightly concerning maybe more than slightly
concerning to me.
Ethical perspective to understand what their deep economic
needs were and to be studying them without meeting them. So
I'd guess that's kind of where my concern comes from and
looking forward to understanding what that data shares with
us kind of simile coming from that. I appreciate what what
we've done from an off boarding perspective, but I'm also
concerned when we look at what people were using this
funding for which were very basic.
purple
Purposes when we take $6,000 a year out of somebody's
income which for most these folks looks like it was about
the equivalent of 20% of their annual income or more.
If what was keeping them stable was that financial support?
or
Are we easing off I feel concerned that the assistance went
from $500 month 20 month over night. Cuz that's what it
sounds like.
Are you?
Do you want to talk about the manager for crcp? So with
operating one we we felt the exact same it in the data that
we provided you can see the post survey does show a little
bit of anxiety as people are feeling they're about to stop
receiving this $500 a month. We started sending
notifications very very early. So they had several months
to plan for this additional fun to be off boarded. So that
was one we wanted to make sure that they had more than
enough notice to do this to the other areas that we worked
on with we identified individuals that could qualify for
benefits protection and we reach out to them personally and
said we would like to enroll you benefit protection. Please
reach out to Greater food depository legal aid Chicago.
Let's try and help you with those as well. The idea is to
take the security in the South agency that they provided
over the year and build it for them to move forward in the
coaching and the counseling and
you see
I've seen High enrollment in in not in after engagement of
the program as well.
I'm glad for that. Are you I just remember times in my life
when I was making $30,000 a year is only so much you can
code someone on how to do more with $30,000 a year. So glad
for it. And I also like at this creeping anxiety in the
back of my head for what the neck?
six months
Six months will look like I won't take more time only say
chair like I ever cared for this in the budget. I hoped you
would that we do not wait until June 2025 to restart. This
program clearly has been successful in providing stability
for a lot of folks and I hope that we move on that sooner
rather than later. Thank you. Thank you Tara ottomanelli.
Thank you. Thank you chairman. Thanks for the summary of
the the program. I think it's hard to disagree that. It
wasn't a successful program. The people that it helped just
a couple questions regarding eligibility for the program
was their citizenship requirement or was this just open to
any any Resident of the city of Chicago that met the other
eligibility requirements. It was open to Chicago residence.
We did not ask about citizenship. Thank you. That's my only
question for right now when I come back to something else
later. Thank you. Thank you. I'll do in Chico. Give me back
to off-boarding 1600 adapter for referral that's out of the
5000.
Yes. Yes. Okay. My concern with Alderman laspada. Is there
any way to get that number out whether it be contingent?
I'm getting into the program cuz it's not even half and
that's the concern I have is going forward is really a drop
off and and financial literacy is a very important role.
I'm kind of your thoughts around around that.
agree
Agreed financial literacy to in order to provide the
success of the 6,000 that was provided in order for them to
keep going absolutely agreed to get that enrollment up. We
would start providing Community engagement a lot earlier in
some feedback that we talked about and of course has the
team comes together to talk about how this last year went.
We would would work towards Community engagement a lot
earlier than the off-boarding process and a lot more
extensively as well. We feel if we can provide more of a
community of this program that they have more of a
communication to talk to one another and build support that
that could help in boosting the operating and referrals as
they move forward. I'm looking at the initial impact
primary impacts will transfer staff turkey poem. The next
largest one is reduce stress.
what were
What what what is that Intel? Is that what is that?
do
No, I'm so sorry. Just make sure I'm understanding you.
Right Alderman, you're talking the the program survey
number one as compared to program serving a u d i d primary
and pack some transfers.
Right next to keep home. It's reduced dress. I'm looking to
see what that was included in that in terms of your mental
stability and mental health each month. So there were
several buckets that went into the idea of reducing stress
IL is currently tracking what those initial buckets were
and actually in our first look report that Sandra's
mentioned they go into more depth into that as well. We
will provide that for the committee to open, please.
Because the personal questions if they're seeking out
professional assistance that after the program is over that
are still maintaining that kind of yeah. Absolutely. Yes.
I'm University of Chicago IL is following along with the
referrals that we made to continue with the impact
evaluation of them.
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thank
Thank you charm a night. I know I just about weight for a
little bit but just for clarification. So I'm looking at
the payments here tarp and it starts from June of 2022 all
the way to July of 2023. Can you explain to me a little bit
of the Third Road? It's hard to see but I think it's number
households approved and we see you know, there's a big
client and when we get to June 6th drastic decline of my
number of households approved. Can you speak I'm glad
So we had those different cohorts of individuals were
enrolled starting in the springtime in 2022. So it was 12
months from your enrollment dates. Are you were either part
of the June cohort July or August cohorts? So you'll see in
July and August we had the majority of are enrollees wear
off boarded in the gym cohort. So you just see those
numbers going lesson last for those who finalized their
process over the month's. Okay, perfect and the for this so
moving on the pilot will remain the same amount of
applicants the ones you're approved. And then also how much
money they're going to be getting is it is a pilot Remains
the Same that when it comes to a mile
How was the sign originally with was a sign? We remain the
same if if the Polly will move forward very pleased with
the results not saying that we keep everything exactly the
same that that's sort of decks. It would be a conversation
that we would be having around what we want to improve on
change and also depend on the amount of funding that we
were to receive. Okay? Perfect. Thank you.
I want
Kwandos lines W. Do you have
a couple
couple ideas on what you would would change just curious
diving Sarah mentioned one of the really big pieces around
engaging earlier in the process with those not not waiting
for the last couple final months anything else that we
Yeah, one other thing we'd want to do is act in the length
of time. The application was open. We think that a few more
days maybe another week. We would have a wider range of all
applicants applying. We actually made some significant
changes during the course of of the implementation so our
Outreach we made significant changes in Outreach during
during those just few weeks that that it was open looking
at the data coming in on applicants finding communities
populations. That didn't feel like we were hitting and we
We sort of had better.
We sort of had very specific Outreach efforts with our
partners to try to engage in community where we felt like
we weren't getting the representation that we wanted to we
made a lot of learning that we would then Implement from
the from the beginning and in the future.
Thank you.
Thank you, Autumn Lake.
I'm a
I'm back. I just have one more through the chair if you
don't have it here. I'm just interested in how many
individuals from my particular Ward. There's a demographic
breakdown by where to buy by ethnicity would be great to
have.
for everybody
if
It could you provide that for every Ward My Rewards? Thank
you ever break down by Ward Ward. It is based off the old
wardmaps. Absolutely by the breakdown of the democratic so
we can get through the chair. That would be great. Thank
you. I know that there was a compliment you and working
with lots of different agencies. I know that the pre-tax
Center was very actively involved in helping residents in
Chinatown apply for the program itself. So I just hadn't
Circle back to say, you know, how many actually got in the
program and would love to be able to talk to them to about
the difference in a minute or two to the Pointe aux Center
in terms of what they saw, you know, just
Rick and
And that was that was one of the group to where we were
underrepresented initially and and those sort of efforts.
We saw the percentage increase over the the. Of the
application being open that stuff was a real success story
that we had an important factor the language accessibility
piece and then to have a good partner so I can help walk
people through it is all too often if these are if the
application process is a little too cumbersome. There's a
lot of people who just forgo it completely and that and
that they'll they're not tapping into the resources that
are actually available to them as residents of the city of
Chicago. What was what was how many minutes does it take to
complete the application 27 minutes, which is
yeah.
yeah, you know.
We were very pleased with that compared to others that we
had seen around the country. That's right. Thank you. Thank
you Tim. And that's it. So I'll just say that to automate
Cruise the budget committee. What are the budget department
is analyzing the AARP funds that have not yet been spent I
think it's an opportunity. Once the budget department has
checked with all the Departments to see where the air
Peabody is where it's at and that money that has been
covered yet an opportunity for us to take a look at
utilizing those funds if the body so chooses to move
forward with a enough.
Give it.
Guarantee basic income pilot program cannot guarantee basic
income program given the fact that we've gone through the
pilot vfss and I don't have to give a shout out to
commissioner Deccan Asia as well for her leadership on list
that based on that information. We can determine whether or
not it's a body we want appropriate that now this is not
the type of type of guy introduced an ordinance in this in
June around this program. This make it permanent and I
wanted to make it permanent for the duration of Deepak
children are going to CPS schools to help parents in the
reason why I'm so passionate about this is not typically my
legislation is introduced as everyone knows but given the
fact that that my family was a recipient of a
he
guarantee basic income type of program through survival
death benefits and Social Security or my family received a
stipend until I was 18. We know that these types of
programs help to them out my mom the ability cuz my dad
passed away at 8 to work with dignity not having to work
two jobs or having her that having her the ability to get
the stipend allowed her to watch two boys in Chicago make
sure that we weren't acting up and his neighbors got more
challenging. She had the ability to move to better
neighborhoods and here I sit as a member of a city
councilman third-largest City. My brother is an IT manager
with Morgan Stanley so we know
Kroger
program
Programs work in these Investments were so that's why I'm
passionate about making sure that we're helping lift up
those families that just need that little bit of assistance
because we don't know where their children would end up and
we know that this helps address Public Safety this helps
with with affordability of housing these types of programs
work and I'm not for Universal basic income. I'm more fruit
making a targeted where it's guaranteed basic income for
people that are 250 200 300% below the federal poverty
level in the end. Those are the people that need the help
the most to have this discussion moving forward into one I
think is when the budget committee the budget department is
is slated to provide information back to the body on the
amount of a r p money that's going to be left and then it's
a body we can make a decision, but there is already a
vehicle. I have an ordinance already introduced that if you
want to co-sign on p.m. Please feel free to co-sign and I
and I I think you'd be a great program for us.
don't
Don't think you do with that. Thank you so much for the FSS
and tea for doing a great pilot program. Did it seem like
you had too many hiccups. My only request is that let's
make more people use the card so that way we can track them
or and find out what people are spending money on cuz I
think that I'm sure we have some programs in place that can
help benefit them as well.
Sing all the questions be that there's no further business
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thank everyone.