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The show you little devil. Good morning. Good morning. Good
morning. We are going to commence the meeting of the
committee on pedestrian traffic safety is now called to
order for November 13th 2023. We will now have a roll call
vote roll call to establish Quorum will orders. Please make
sure their microphones are unmuted chairman. Laspada my
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With nine members present we have a quorum now that we have
established warm. We have a request from all of hers and
brunette to appear remotely in accordance with rule 59 of
the city council Rules of Order and procedure and with
subsections a through D of section 7 of the open meetings
act under rule 59 and older person may appear at a
committee meeting by Audio or video conference. If the
member is prevented from physically attending because of
personal illness or disability employment or the business
of the public body or family or other emergency and the
Quorum vote to allow the remote for the attendance all the
person Burnett has let me know that he is currently
attending to an emergency that prevents him from being here
in person. Can I get a motion to allow other person Burnet
to attend this meeting remotely?
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Say aye.
all those opposed say nay
in the opinion of the chair.
In the opinion of the chair the eyes have it all the person
Burnett is present here today via zoom, and we counted
accordingly for the roll call almond Hopkins with us as
well. Thank you so much, sir.
at
At this time, we will begin the public comment period out of
respect for everyone's Time Each speaker is limited to
three minutes pursuant to rule 58e public comment will be
limited to 30 minutes with several folks timely signed up
our first Speaker today is Mister George, Blakemore.
I hope that the result was a lot of bills and going to
church. I got a family problem within a year.
patient
They should be altered cuz you all are fuses and that road
that we could set up for covid-19. And it's over. Anyway
read messages is saying the police traffic stops and impact
it has on people people of color. Now. I'm not concerned
people color. I'm talking about black people.
that's
That's been going on driving while black.
Joe
job
Jogging why black talkin with why black big here and black
the negative effects that it has on the Striking the mill.
Look at the police. Look at that light that green or blue
light look at them, and he's white police are coming out
abusing our people driving while Black coming down and city
council Lee speaking.
It worked on my side kid went to get scared. I'm scared of
all my disrespect me.
structure map on the one that dealing with
Orkin privilege
beef
B Street should be open to every bite certain people
shouldn't have at a certain time from EDD for them to park
their car.
get your
Get you a Coronavirus.
Get you a coronavirus. We all pay for the city streets and
you shouldn't get this city streets have no time free. It's
cool because you live in Carl Sandburg. Are you live in
another area and you come and say I want a parking space
get your parking lot. It's your coronavirus these streets
belong to everybody that who abused the whites to Black the
Hispanic at all, when they come and then up on the North
side want to have a good time though. You can't park here
it just for the people in this area. No no, no, no, no, no,
no, no tax payers money and go speak both be open to
everyone. Mr. Blackmore. You have the key for all the
people now not only black people were Hispanic on Asia. You
understand me. I've been articulated. You don't have no
special because you live in a certain area.
get you
Get your car or if you can't afford no parking space.
Thank you, Miss.
Thank you. Mr. Blake more our next BB. Our next speaker is
from the law office of the Cook County public defender.
the more
Good morning. My name is Patricia Jamba and I'm director of
legislative an external Affairs at the law office of the
Cook County public defender. I'm here today because Chicago
Police practices impact a majority of the 70,000 clients.
We are appointed to represent annually is Undisputed that
cpdus has invested or stops. Downs and traffic stops in
disproportionate and even violent manners again, black
Latin X and poor Chicago in these stops are not only a
constitutional violation. They're all so often the gateway
to criminal charges that can inflict a lifetime of
collateral consequences. I'm here today to explain two ways
in which traffic stops harm public defender clients and ask
city council to act to reduce These Arms just like
stop-and-frisk pretextual traffic stop.
under the guise of the
Under the guise of community safety efforts overwhelmingly
impact black and Latin X people CPD officers Target poor
neighborhoods and wait for black and Latin next drivers to
commit minor traffic violations or outright fabricate
violations as justification to pull these drivers over
officers are using fractions as opportunities to search
clients vehicles for weapons. If a weapon is bound anyone
in the car may be charged with a felony almost a quarter of
felony cases assigned to our office or simple gun
possession cases just like these as part of these criminal
cases are attorneys review tens of thousands of hours of
body-worn camera footage this footage reveals. What police
report often don't improper traffic stops of thousands of
individuals. These stops are fishing Expedition for
officers to find guns drivers and passengers of her ass
will lead taunted and pulled out of their vehicles in the
most violent and humiliating of Waze.
Our attorneys be the scenario repeated thousands of time,
even though our clients are only a small subset of stop
sandwich. Contraband is found not the other 90%
many of our clients have Dallas Cowboy cards and mistakenly
believe that allows them to legally possess a firearm when
she PD finds a gun in a car they arrest drivers and even
passengers who may otherwise be law-abiding gun owners, but
for the lack of a concealed carry license,
Let's begin the criminal prosecution that can result in
lost jobs and housing lost custody of their children a
pre-trial service appointment that conflict with words and
work and educational commitment and electronic monitoring
and home confinement resolving the cases takes months even
years all originating from unconstitutional races and
violent traffic stops, and in 2020 to more than one faith
of gun possession cases ended without a conviction. Our
clients are either found not guilty for the case was
dismissed of course much harm has already been done by then
the Cook County Public Defender's office in Florida City of
Chicago Council city council to create a policy that limit
stop or low-level traffic offenses for his preternatural
traffic stops and restricts consent searches. Thank you for
the opportunity.
thank
Thank you very much. Our next speaker is in apologies for
any mispronunciation by some are naughty.
Oh Lord. Our next speaker is mr. W Robert Schultz the
Third.
Good morning. My name is W Robert Schultz the 3rd and I'm
on staff at the Active Transportation Alliance and also
participate in the free to move Coalition active
Transportation Alliance promotes walking biking and public
transportation to make Chicago sustainable healthy and more
Equitable Chicago is experiencing an alarming number of
pedestrian fatalities this year. There have been 25
pedestrian fatalities and five bake bike fatalities on
Chicago Streets over the past five years. The number of
serious injuries and fatalities on our roadways have stored
according to the publicly available data since September
2017 15837 pedestrian have been injured in traffic crashes.
That's over 7 daily 3306
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fatality
Fatalities or serious entered that's 1.5. Add a 87% of the
pedestrians involved in a crash or entered an 18.5% or
killed or seriously injured the way to read redress. This
trend is to have Safe Streets for all where pedestrian
safety is a prime factor in Street infrastructure design
speeding is frequently a factor in many of these cases. It
is obvious that people walking or biking outside of Motor
Vehicles are especially susceptible to traffic violence and
are vulnerable roadway safety is a genuine problem for
Chicago primary contributing factor is the lack of safety
for pedestrians and do bike. However, according to an
analysis of CPD reported statistics in 2020 to less than
one per
send a
a traffic stops were for speeding speeding is dangerous for
all after trans agrees that pretextual traffic stops are an
effective and unwise policy cpd's current used for traffic
stops in the station and not evidence-based pretextual
traffic stops are in effective tool for solving crime, and
they're also an ineffective true for achieving traffic
safety.
play
Play available.
Play available data shows that prior to 2015 most traffic
stops were for moving violation in 2019 to 2021 50% of the
traffic stops were either for a minor thing like a broken
tail light only 2.5% of stops resulted in arrests. We
support the aims of the free tomorrow Coalition and we hope
the resources get diverted to things like treatment not
trauma and better infrastructure.
Thank you very much much. Mr. Schultz. Our next speaker is
Kyle Lucas.
I know.
Hi there. My name is Kyle Lucas. I am one of the
co-founders of better Street Chicago. We are a Grassroots
organization that are fighting for Safe Streets for all
Chicagoans. But particularly those who walk bro. I can take
transit. I am a victim of traffic violence very recently
about two weeks ago. I was hit twice in one week.
and I
And there was a common denominator in both of those
instances one ever hit and runs.
to the police never came
in August of 2021. I was a victim of a hit-and-run.
the
The police managed to show up that time but they never
followed through with an investigation. I am thousands of
dollars in unpaid medical bills that because the Chicago
Police Department has never investigated any of the
instances in which I have been on the receiving end of
traffic violence.
in
In September a dear friend of mine was a victim of
hit-and-run on Halsted the police never came.
in
In June, I heard a crash outside of my window one evening.
I am the neighbor ran outside and what we found with a
family who had just been hit while driving down Irving Park
Road.
with a hit
With a hit-and-run and mother was pregnant and she had five
children in the car with her.
Apple
the police never came
they took the mother to the paramedics took the mother to
the hospital and me and my neighbor stayed with the family
with the children and watch them.
Wow.
While the father tried to run around to local businesses
trying to see if he could get record of what had happened.
He was acting as detective because the police wouldn't do
that or him.
Something that was really interesting that he said to me
that has really stuck with me.
AT&T
and he told me
this is what happens when you defend the police.
answer
and it's a
I didn't say anything to him that moment stuck with me and
have kept it with me.
because
Because I know the all of you in this room know that that's
not true. We have not defended the police. In fact, you're
about to put on a budget and which we are going to increase
their budget again.
But what?
But what you're hearing today?
It's going to be from a lot of people who do have police
intervention in our lives.
and
And what I want to ask you today, is this at creating
safety?
Are we say?
Are we safe?
Are we safer as a city?
By what we're funding.
Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm also noting that other
person Lamont Robinson has joined us for corn. Our next
speaker. Is Jose Manuel a month.
Hey.
Hey, good morning. Everybody, My name is Jose Mota Masa on
the director of advocacy for a Patisserie and they're based
out of North Lawndale. I want to find common ground with
mr. Blake more. But here we are and it's just pretty cool
that we're actually agreeing on something with the free to
move Coalition on calling and entropy sexual traffic stops.
As you heard today by many different polygons answers when
we talked about creating traffic safety protection. Do not
create that it doesn't protect yourself and not serve us as
I do not serve as a tool to create Traffic Safety as does
not serve as a tool to curb gun violence cuz they do as you
were going to learn today is pretty clear how ineffective
when they do not recover many guns. But when they do you
heard from the other part of the fenders office how drastic
and dramatic goes
Those two things and can be on people's lives as Equity
City and North Lawndale. We are calling to end protect your
traffic stops and consent searches cuz they already have
the Constitution to the legal authority to search a
vehicle. So there's no need to ask for a consent-to-search
if all they're trying to do is just fish for something and
ruin someone's life. Thank you very much.
thank
Thank you very much. Also, the committee welcomes
non-member all the persons Winters are final public speaker
is Cameron Oglebay?
Are you all doing today? My name is Cameron Huckabee. And
I'm here today to basically just explain how I've been
impacted by Chicago police officers during traffic stops.
So October 16th of 2020. I was downtown at a restaurant and
the officers came from in front of my vehicle because they
said that I didn't have the front plate license plate on so
they came to the rear I was actually parked I wasn't even
driving and they came to the rear of my vehicle.
and
And through the lights on and you know got out. I gave him
license insurance everything so then they pulled me out the
vehicle.
They asked me did I want to you know that I consent to the
service and everything. I told him no and just going back a
little bit. I'll ask you left out. I've been pulled over 30
times just since I've been driving. I'm 35 years old.
Yeah, so basically they found the unregistered firearm in
my in the passenger's purse
we
Which they had to avoid card though.
go to
Go to in event of the situation what happened after that.
I'll end up going to Cook County Jail for 25 months and
setting there with an old Bond.
And the case was dismissed but it's like I have I missed
out of town with my children, like lost jobs a lot of
different stuff that I went through just being impacted by
this situation and it is we got to make a change like and
we got to stand up for myself cuz we can't keep allowing
these offices to do this. That's all I got.
thank you for
thank you, very
Thank you very much.
This concludes the public coming. Our first order of
business is the rule 45 report from October which was sent
out to the committee. Can I have a motion to approve the
rule 45 or 4?
so
So move ornament Yancey or first music to moves all of
those in favor of passing the report respond by saying I
all those opposed by saying night in the opinion of the
chair that I haven't we will now begin with items before
the committee. We are going out of order and we'll begin
with the sign ordinances on page two. Can I have a motion
to record to recommend approval of all direct introduction
and ordinances on page to buy the same roll call vote as
was applied to determine floor.
So moved all the person Lawson hearing no objections. So
ordered let us turn to Pages three and four for the
recommended portion of the agenda. Can I get a motion to
recommend approval of all recommended ordinances on pages 3
and 4 by the same roll call vote as was applied to turn to
determine quorum.
just be
Just meet y'all the woman Crusoe Moon hearing no
objections. So ordered now, we will move to Pages 5 through
17 of the agenda which are items that received no
recommendation from City departments. These ordinances were
submitted as overrides are on the agenda at the request of
the older person or do not require departmental approval
with that. Can I get a motion to recommend approval of all
ordinances on pages 5 through 17 to be passed without a
departmental recommendation by the same roll call vote as
was applied to determine quora.
So moved all the woman Manhattan worth hearing no
objections. So ordered we will report these items out at
the next regularly scheduled city council meeting.
we
We will now have a subject matter hearing regarding a
resolution on page one that was introduced by myself and
co-sponsored by Alders Martin City Lopez Rodriguez Sanchez.
When does Rodriguez Vasquez Yancey Cruz may not happen
worth hadn't and Irvin statement of the statement of the
perp.
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Moving forward before we enter into this because it is both
an important and a delicate conversation. I have a brief
Preamble on this which is the members and non-members of
this committee should be aware that the city of Chicago is
currently defending itself in litigation on the subject of
traffic stops. Please be cognizant of this when asking
questions and making remarks in light of your fiduciary
duty to the city also because of this pending litigation,
there will be no City personnel including no members of the
Chicago Police Department speaking today on the topic of
traffic stops and the report of the freedom of Coalition
the lack of any City or CBD response to statements made or
data presented at this hearing should not in any way be
construed as the city's agreement with or acceptance of any
such statements or data and
shooting
should not be construed as
It should not be construed as an admission of any
wrongdoing. All of that said I do appreciate the many
meetings with IGA with the law Department. It went into the
coordination of this hearing today that said we will now
have testimony regarding this resolution and I
MoMA
moment.
all I ask
I also you reserve your questions and comments until the
conclusion of the testimony.
What we will now start with Amy Thompson and Lauren Jones
from Impact for equity and the freedom of coalition to
present. We will also have Denzel Johnson Laura Saltzman
and Maliko present for testimony. For those of you giving
testimony. Please state your name and Association for the
record when you begin
Good.
Good morning, council members and the public. My name is
Lauren Jones. I'm the director of the criminal legal
systems program impact for Equity or resident of the south
side and a fourth ward. And a member of the freedom of
Coalition. The freedom of Coalition is an alliance of
Advocates and community members aiming to create a more
racially Equitable system of Traffic Safety in Spring 2023
and pack for equity and the freedom of Coalition released a
series of reports on the scope and in
active
Check the traffic safety in Chicago. We will be sharing the
results of those reports with you all today.
and
In the time since you began this research, I've been
involved in several traffic stops made for minor violations
in the most recent instance. I was stopped a few blocks
away from my home for a registration tag that had expired
yesterday before apparently an expired registration tag
required for officers to approach my car question whether
the car was actually mine and mockingly asked me questions
about why I was so nervous.
when
When I was just trying to get home.
does
Despite knowing my rights in the data and knowing that I
didn't do anything to Warrant this level of Suspicion. The
interaction still made me feel powerless and unsafe.
My experience as part of why I'm scared so deeply about
this work and throughout this presentation. You will hear
more about how stops are impacting the lives of Chicagoans,
but I believe we're going to outline policy solutions that
we believe will end cpd's use the protection of traffic
stops and result in making both our communities and
roadways safer.
I would lie.
I would like to thank all them unless bottom and his staff
Cyrus and Emily for inviting us to present today and
understanding that we cannot have true production in
traffic safety until we end excessive harmful and
inefficient traffic enforcement now, I will open it up to
my colleague a me to introduce yourself in the rest of the
panel.
Good morning.
Good morning council members.
Good morning, council members chairman and the public. My
name is Amy Thompson. I'm staff counsel at impact for
equity and on the freedom of Coalition and I'll pass it
over to Joy.
my
My name is Joy mobile as serve as the policy strategist
with a equity.
Hello fear me. Hello. My name is Denzel Johnson. I'm here
with the freedom of coalition.
Hey, my name is Malik Cole. I am here with free to move.
My name is Laura Saltzman. I'm the transportation policy
analyst for Access living near The Grove.
And now we'll begin our data presentation.
Drivers in Chicago have seen a staggering increase in
traffic stops in recent years, which has left people in the
city with concerns about the practice and it's just
proportionate impact on the city's black and Latino
residents.
Any analysis that word describes we found we made some key
findings first Chicago Police Department traffic stops have
risen dramatically in recent years second. See if he isn't
making traffic stops to make topic safer instead police are
making large numbers of stops for minor traffic offenses to
fish for evidence of criminal activity a Reincarnation of
stop-and-frisk third. The stops are in an effective to
Welcome.
Alchemy
Ultimate cpd's purported goal of crime investigation and
fourth and most importantly the stops are harmful and the
racially disparate cpd's traffic traffic stops
disproportionately impact black and my teenage drivers and
communities on Chicago's South and West sides.
Your your data from over 4.6 million traffic stops
conducted by cpte over 19 years with a particular focus on
stops from 2015 through 2022 when traffic stopped
skyrocketed the data has been publicly available sources
and Freedom of Information Act responses from the Chicago
Police Department, the Illinois Department of
Transportation, the Illinois Secretary of State the city of
Chicago office of Inspector General and the office of
emergency management and Communications.
Watford
what first became clear in our analysis with that traffic
stops in Chicago skyrocketed in recent years from 2004 to
2015. Stop numbers decreased from around 240,000 stops to a
low of around 86000 stops in 2015 after 2015. Stop number
of shot-up increasing by 700% and four years, although
numbers in 2020 drops likely due to the covid-19 pandemic.
Stop numbers have rebounded and in 2022 CD made over
$511,000 a box tops.
we
We next observed that the types of violations you could use
blank people over for our increasingly shifting towards
stops for minor offenses rather than those that could
prevent more serious traffic dangerous and 2,000 for over
75% of the stops made by CPD work for moving expenses,
which is the category of offense is most likely to be more
dangerous driving behavior yet was just began increasing in
2015 CPT begin to focus more on making stops for non-moving
violations namely equipment and Licensing and registration
violations after 2015. You can see equipment stops
ballooning as of 2022 licensing and registration violations
represent the largest category at 38% of all stops last
year.
When looking at the specific defenses people are stopped
form from 2019 through 2021 over 50% of stops were made for
having an unlit or broken headlight or tail light or
failure to have a valid or properly displayed registration
plate or tags. See if he made stops for more dangerous
offenses, like speeding reckless driving and DUI much more
barely beating comprise only 1.7% of the stops and reckless
driving or DUI comprise 0.19% of stops meanwhile traffic
crash into traffic crashes and fatalities everywhere or
increasing
Define
The finding that CPD is making stuff for mine are reasons
that don't present significant safety risks is underscored
by how infrequently officers site the drivers that are
stopped in 2022 only 3.4% of traffic stops resulted in a
citation. That's far below the rates of some other cities
with large Police Department's New York City side of
drivers and 77% of stops in 2022 and Houston sided drivers
in 52 per cent of stops in 2021. The point here is not that
CD should write more tickets were using the citations
number to try to get a sense of ycpd is making any stops in
the first place. The police were pulling people over for
more dangerous driving behavior. You might expect a larger
percentage of citations because police would try to use
that penalty to deter dangerous driving behavior in the
future, but that's not what we see here. The low side
connection rate suggest that police aren't targeting
dangerous driving behavior at all, but instead are pulling
people over for minor violations of low-level traffic laws
just for a chance to fish for possible criminal activity.
Don't find.
Don't find it. They let the person go with a verbal
warning. We don't think we should be writing more tickets.
We think they shouldn't be making these unnecessary and
invasive stops in the first place.
the
being
The increased number of seemed to be a shift ncpd criminal
investigation strategy in 2015 CPT entered into a
settlement agreement with the ACLU in response to the ACLU
has findings that CPD disproportionately stop-and-frisk
black people often without Reasonable Suspicion this
resulted in a significant reduction in CPT, stop-and-frisk
practices over the next few years at the same time see if
he's traffic. Stop number is shut up. It appears as if
instead of stopping people using investigatory stops
promised on Reasonable Suspicion of criminal activity CPT
has pivoted to using pretextual traffic stops. This type of
stop allows police to stop drivers for minor reasons to
fish for other signs of criminal activity, even when they
have no suspicion in the first place.
You know.
You know the pain from CPT show that indeed traffic stops
are a prioritize strategy during a three-month period in
2020 area for leadership and courage aggressive use of
traffic stops with the justification that they decrease
shootings and violence email show that the numbers are
higher numbers of traffic stops were seen as a critical
metric for performance units were ranked by the number of
stops that they made increases in stops for praise and low
numbers were criticized.
but the dad
But the data shows that strategy doesn't work for finding
evidence of criminal activity in 2020 to less than 1% of
traffic stops resulted in recovery of illegal items like
drugs alcohol or weapons about 0.5% of stops reported
inventory drugs or drug paraphernalia, when looking at
firearm data, we also only see a small fraction of traffic
stops bleeding to police recovering Firearms CPT records
show that in 2022 across more than 511000 stops only 0.52%
of those stops resulted in the recovery of a firearm.
The data also shows that it stops have increased the
percentage of traffic stops resulting in an arrest has
decreased in 2022 only 2.02% of stops resulted in an arrest
the relatively infrequent Contraband recovery and arrest
generated by such massive numbers of traffic stops raises
serious doubts as to the efficacy of cpd's law enforcement
tactic.
even if I'm
Remind me for a moment. Could we ask folks in the audience
to lower turned off the volume on any cell phones or their
devices that they have? Thank you very much.
did you let
Thank you to give you more insight into the ineffectiveness
and how these stops play out. I'm going to turn it over to
Denzel Johnson the story illustrates how the stops for
incredibly minor offenses Escalade without any public
safety game.
other every
Hello everyone. Once again, I'm Denzel Johnson. I am from
the 21st Ward and the 22nd Police District to watch
tonight. And I don't reckon neighborhood of Chicago on ever
on a day in Chicago where I was driving my car. I was in
the shop for about two weeks. I made it home. I realize
that I need to gas up two of my friends wanted to accompany
me on my way to the gas station. So I literally drove 5
blocks away from my house. And before I know that before I
had known I noticed that there was some bright headlights
behind me. So I literally make a left turn and I'm like so
turned on I'm completely surrounded by police officers.
They were four police cars for officers to each car. So in
that moment, I was very nervous and very afraid of why it
was so many officers surrounding me a joke say where's the
party just to make myself feel more comfortable in the
moment to relate relieve my nerves so when they came and
approached the vehicle, they asked me for my license
already.
Duration, of course, I was out of compliance and they began
to harass members in the car and my friends asking them for
their identification. You know, one of my friends who knows
his rights and said that he did not need to present his ID
during the traffic stop, but he just needs to speak to me.
He began to be threatened by police officers saying that he
temporarily detained during this open investigation. So at
this moment I'm pleading with my friend as I understand
that they are infringing on your rights, but I've seen
traffic stops where young black men have lost their lives
simply because they did not presented ID. So that moment I
played with my friend he presented the ID and so what
happened was they Grandma plates notice that I was a black
driver they were looking for two black males being that
moment.
You know.
You know, they'd realize that they had the wrong person. So
they eventually told me that the reason why they pulled me
over was because of my tenants weren't illegal tent they
asked me what is the legal tint limit in in the lilim.
That's what the legal tint in Illinois at that moment. I
did not know the answer to that they pulled out a tent
reader and eventually, you know, let us go but in that
moment, I don't think that we needed that how many police
officers for minor infractions and such I think that it was
a Miss identity. They thought that I was someone that I'm
not I've had my car for over 5 years and the car came with
pants though. It wasn't the fact that it was a illegal tent
on the car. I think it was due to being a black motor is in
the city of Chicago in traffic stops not being an effective
way to stop and find a crime in the city. So In This Moment
it was
It was just a really eye-opening moment to see that you
know, it's not safe to be up like Motors in the city of
Chicago.
I think if
Thank you for looking to my store.
Thank you. Tell.
building a
Building on Denville testimony Beyond being an effective
CDs traffic stops for a serious concern because they deport
really hard black my teenage drivers and communities the
maps on this slide in the neck show comparisons of the stop
rates of the estimated white driving population to the
stock price of the estimated black and Latino driving.
deletions Bible
Galatians 5 police district with the darker orange colors
indicating a greater likelihood of getting stock as
compared to white color white drivers.
Citywide from 2015 through 2021 the average black driver
was 6 times more likely to be stopped than the average
White driver looking at individual police districts black
drivers were at least twice as likely be stopped and over
72% of police districts as compared to White drivers in
some districts in majority white areas black drivers were
six to ten times as likely to be stopped compared to White
drivers.
rollatini
Early teenage drivers from 2015 through 2021. They were
stopped two times the rate of white drivers looking at
individual police districts. The teenage drivers were more
likely to be stopped and why drivers in about 73% of
districts from 2015 through 2021. This disparity was the
largest and police districts in the downtown area and on
the near North Side.
to look at
To look at the racial disparity question from another
angle. We also performed a veil of Darkness analysis a bale
of Darkness test relies on the hypothesis that officers who
are engaged in racial profiling are less likely to be able
to identify a drivers race after dark then during the
daylight under this hypothesis. It stops made when it's
dark outside have a smaller proportion of black drivers
stopped then stops made during the daylight that might be
evidence of bias stops the veil of Darkness test analyzes
traffic stops made during the early evening hours.
healthy year
About the Year. This. Is the. That depending on where we are
in the year is dark outside at some times and it's light
outside at other times. This approach is meant to account
for the fact that the department might do white officers
differently, depending on what time of day it is this way.
We're focusing on the same stops with presumably the same
deployment throughout the year.
the results
The results of this analysis confirm the presence of racial
bias in stock patterns in recent years during the years
from 2017 through 2021 the veil of Darkness test show that
black and Latino drivers were less likely to be stopped
during this early evening. When it was dark outside than
they were during the same time. When it was light outside
according to the cell theory underlying this test the
suggest racial bias in stock patterns during those years.
We also see disparities in police actions that can stem
from a stop from 2015 through 2021 why drivers were both
under stopped and under search relative to their share of
the driving population black drivers. However, we're both
over stopped and over search black drivers make up 28% of
the estimated driving population, but we're involved in 61%
of all traffic stops and 65% of all searches.
we
We also we also see racial disparities when focusing in on
consent search has a consent search occurs, when an officer
received consent from a stop person to search their person
and or their vehicle officers do not need to have any level
of Suspicion of criminal activity before requesting a
driver's consent-to-search, but these searches are
problematic not only do they allow police to embark on a
suspicionless fishing expedition of a person in their
belongings, but the inherently course of nature of a police
encounter means any consent given may not really be
voluntary from 2015 through 2021 over 95% of consent
searches were made to black or Latino drivers 73% of
consent search requests are made of black drivers and 22%
of consent search requests were made of Latino drivers just
3.92% of consent search requests were made to White
drivers. This disparity is explained by the differences in
stock price when you factor in consent searches as a
percentage of stops drivers within each category, the
difference is persist from 2015.
2021 the percentage of stop black drivers who are asked by
officers for consent to search their vehicle was over four
times the percentage of stopped white drivers the
percentage of stop. The teenage drivers asked for consent
to search the vehicle was over three times the percentage
of stop white drivers.
action
Actually my test.
Actually my turn okay with respect to traffic-stop arrest in
2021, although only 2.25% of stops resulted in arrests 72%
of all people arrested from traffic stops. Were black 21%
where the teenager and only 5% of people arrested from
traffic stops that year were white
even though
even more severe harms can stem from a traffic stop traffic
stops as we've seen in the public over the past forever
traffic stops, too often escalate into violence and their
to Blacken between a people experience the brunt of that
impact from 2018 to 2022 CPT conducted over 1,200 use of
force during a traffic stop in almost every instance. The
use of force was against black or Latino people over 96% of
traffic stopped uses of forests were against people of
color.
It's an
It's important to remember that traffic stops are much more
than a momentary inconvenience in a person's day. They are
real impact for individuals who are stopped in for
communities who are subjected to concentrated stop traffic
stops to make the physical harm psychological harm that can
come from a weapon being pointed at you and financial or
legal consequences that can come from citations or rest
among racial minorities and black individuals in particular
involuntary police Khan.
What is associated with?
What is associated with Sigma trauma anxiety and depressive
system symptoms?
There's also an aggregate effect on individuals and
communities of color who are repeatedly targeted for
traffic stops for minor offenses severe or repeated police
contact and black and Latino communities prevent serious
challenges to trust of law enforcement a 2020 survey found
nearly 80% of white residents in Chicago Field at police
make them feel safer while less than half the black
residents third of young black men felt the same way.
I haven't.
A heavy use of traffic stops concentrated in these
communities not only presents a risk to the physical and
psychological well-being of those stopped or at risk of
being stopped. It's also counterproductive to law
enforcement crime detection or prevention efforts.
to talk
To talk more about the escalating and harmful impacts that
can reach not only the driver but their family and
passengers and their vehicles. I will turn it over to Malik
Cole.
Real once again, my name is Malik Cole. I'm from the West
Side 27th ward of Chicago or organize a to nonprofit
organizations on this particular day me and a friend
without going to a Halloween party and the moment. We got
like a block before the party and we got pulled over by the
police approached the car. They asked the driver which I
was not the driver. They asked them for the license
registration and he asks do we have
Casino
Concealed gun card, which is a little weird for us. They
they took his stuff then they came back and they asked me
for my ID and stuff. I gave them the information they pull
my friend out the car and then they proceeded to do a drug
sobriety test in front of the police car. So upon him doing
the test. He passed the test. Then they asked him to do the
test again on the side of a building with which was dark
cuz it was like 1 in the morning which was not in front of
the visible in front of the police car, which me working
with lawyers and stuff with my job during the day. I knew
that if they going to do a sobriety test, they should have
did it in front of the police car and it should have been
done the first time. So I was you know feeling a little
weird there. I asked the police officer who was watching me
cuz I was still sitting in the car what's happening with my
friend, but he wasn't Cooperative with me asking questions.
He had his hand on his gun. He had like a neck brace that
was over his mouth. So anything you can see visible.
And he just kept saying that your friend has grown he would
tell you once you get to the police station mind you this
is before he even got put in handcuffs. They don't even
know anything happen. They take my friend to the police
car. That's all I see them when they come to the police
car. He comes walking fast and he likes Natchez the door
open and tell me to get out when he when he says get out
the first thing he says, but all these guys drunk too. So
I'm like drunk. I'm not drunk, you know, cuz we wouldn't
drink and we just got to
Guinea
When you get to the party yet, they would like all right,
you can move you can get away from you. No get away from
the crime scene me as a as a driver. I have my license and
stuff. So I might can I take the friend contact my friend
car, but if y'all going to rest them it's going to be you
know, put certain burdens on us to get the car out of the
toe and stuff like that with you. You don't know if you had
the money to do that, but I told me know they searched the
car which I don't know if he ever gave them consent to
search the car. I think that was the reason they didn't
want me to take the car so they can do the search. But when
I let you know I had to take a $60 Uber because it was at
the I'm at a certain time at night with you. No
inconvenience on me. I don't have kids anything but I'm not
rich, you know, you know, it was just the uneasy feeling of
like me having a father that we did 23 years in prison, you
know families and friends at get these stops and then like,
you know when it might be a simple stop to somebody else.
as you know
Cuz you know you feeling nervous because he's seen so many
black people not walk away with a life, you know, it was
kind of scary then we got later on. We have to spend like
$500 to take the car out out of the pot plus pay extra days
because it was a rental and you know, it just it just put a
hardship on us inside next check. It's just situation like
that didn't like, you know, it hurts after you know people
think about during the incident but it's like what if I
didn't have the money to get the car back door?
House of
How should I feel when I get stopped again with police
officers and you know that they have something against you
because your tone of your skin, that's it for me. Thank
you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Melissa.
Thank you, Malik.
building off of that so
dad
The data here describe shows compelling evidence that CPD
has substantially increased its use of minor traffic stops
as a policing strategy intended to fish for criminal
activity, but the tops are unsuccessful in achieving those
goals and black and the teenage drivers and communities are
disproportionately experiencing. The harmful weight of is
an effective policing strategy to address those problems
that we see in the data and experience. If you've heard
from Malik and Denzel and other folks that have attended
this hearing the freedom of Coalition set out over the last
year to develop a strategy for transformational change and
how Chicago and horses traffic safety.
Our Coalition came together initially in 2021 to discuss
alarming issues. We saw in the current traffic safety
safety system. The recognized police seemed more interested
in using pedestrian bike and vehicle stops to investigate
black and Latino residents better than make streets safer
from there. We began collecting and analyzing data and
research and possible ways that Chicago could do things
differently.
over the last year
Over the last year we consulted with our Coalition members
to craft our vision for a safer more racially Equitable
traffic safety system and quickly realized that enforcement
would need to change in order for us to move further toward
that goal. We analyzed the data the result of which you saw
here today to understand which types of stops are happening
the most and resulting in the greatest disparities. We
surveyed research from across the country of data
scientists who have studied racial disparities in traffic
stops and impacts on jurisdictions that have made changes
to those practices. We met with Advocates and stakeholders
in different jurisdictions to hear about what led them to
make reforms what lessons they learned in the process and
to understand what impacts have had have happened so far.
we
We consulted with national experts and police reform who
study these changes across the country and have developed a
model policies or recommendations for how to have an
impactful pretextual stop reform policy through all of
that. We landed on three solutions that we believe will the
dress Chicago's rampant use of harmful, excessive and
inefficient Protec shuell traffic stops and also lead to an
increase in community and roadway safety.
first
First CPT must eliminate pretextual stops. Are the legal
loophole that allows police to stop people from minor
reason to fish for other signs of criminal activity, even
when they have no suspicion in the first place the data
shows that this fishing strategy is not working this policy
would end the use of pretextual stops.
laugh
Last year Los Angeles Police Department implemented a
version of this policy and preliminary data on outcomes
showed a reduction in stops for minor offenses and
decreased minor stops of black drivers.
S c p d must limit stops for a set of low-level traffic
violations stop for minor violations have little to no
impact on roadway safety, but nonetheless are some of the
most common justification for traffic enforcement. This
would include infractions like having one broken headlight
or tail light failure to have a license plate light or a
recently expired registration.
I know.
A number of jurisdictions have taken up a version of this
change including Virginia, Philadelphia Pittsburgh organ
and the San Francisco Police Department early data from
Philadelphia shows that after the reform after the reform.
Please seem to be more purposeful with their investigation
both the actual number of weapons and the rate of weapon
recovery from traffic stops increased.
Third CPT must end suspiciousness consent searches during
traffic stops for traffic code violations the incentive to
perform Protec shuell stops in the hope that an officer
might find evidence of criminal violations during a stop.
But even if they don't they can still legally ask a person
for consent to search even when they have no suspicion in
the first place as we noted earlier the inherently course
of nature of a police interaction means any consent given,
Maine
Shruti bhalla
He truly volunteer.
I'll be truly voluntary this policy would prevent fishing
by requiring law enforcement to have an independent legal
basis to conduct a search of a person their vehicles and
their belongings during a traffic stop and reduce the
intrusive stops their searches that are happening during
stops places like Connecticut, Rhode Island in San
Francisco police department has successfully passed a
version of this.
Expert groups like the center for policing Equity the
policing project and Vera Institute Institute of Justice
recommend some or all of these approaches as important
tools to reduce protect stops. We believe the combination
of these policies will provide clear guidelines for
officers and prevent this kind of biased practice from
re-emerging in another form just like stop-and-frisk
re-emerged as traffic stops.
but
By implementing the three-part plan Chicago would make
significant progress toward reducing racially
discriminatory policing freeing up wasted resources and
achieving a more racially Equitable traffic safety system.
Specifically, we expect to see a more focus on roadway
safety efforts and regulating of dangerous driving
behaviors few or harmful interactions between civilians and
police in Kris trust between police and the communities
they serve reduce racial disparities reduce entry into the
criminal legal system and financial burden for targeted
communities are reduced police workload more efficient
criminal investigation.
ultimately a
Ultimately a transformational shift and how policing is done
in Chicago.
The data describe today gave you a look at why traffic
stops in Chicago are harmful and aren't keeping us any
safer. You heard today from just a few of the hundreds of
thousands of people who have been stopped repeatedly by CPT
and the fear trauma and anxiety they face and you've seen
our proposal on how we suggest to fix those problems.
for you
4 years communities most impacted by CPT stop strategy have
called on CPD to stop the discriminatory and invasive
practice alarms have been raised by officials Advocate the
office of the Inspector General and other stakeholders
enough is enough Chicago wins. Is there a bold
transformative change now and we are calling on local
officials to make a change that includes our city council
which has the ability to pass an ordinance to implement
these policies and the new community commission for Public
Safety in account accountability to the power to create
Department policy.
tell her
To learn more about the data policy platform and how to get
involved with the freedom of Coalition. Does it free to
like the number move? Shy. Org and there you will also find
our newly launched dashboard, which can show you exactly
how traffic stops are impacting your ward. Thank you all
for your time. And we're happy to answer any questions you
may have
thank you, very
Thank you very much. Amy Lauren tanselle Malik Laura. Joy
for sharing before we go to questions from the comitia.
I'll just share briefly. What would move me to be here and
to ask for this presentation today? Was that the strength
of the data the strength of your analysis the stories from
the room, but I have to admit I'll tell Jerry Lee and
dramatically different from my own experience because I I
will share if I wasn't that thought I'd be saying in 24
years living in Chicago. I have never been involved in a
traffic stop in three years the lap with three years
driving in Chicago. I have never been involved in a traffic
stop and that is not because I am an exemplary driver my
wife could confirm that to you.
It's everything they were talking about today. And when we
talked about reduced workload, that is so essential when we
look at the budget that we're passing when we look at the
needs of our community if there's ways that we can use our
officers time more effectively more efficiently. I think
that the who's us to have that conversation, but it's the
piece about increased trust or is someone to even talk to
us about establishing trust with law enforcement requires
us to encourage interrogate policies procedures even moan
that have broken their
That have broken that trust enzyme that would is what brings
me here to this conversation even in light of my fiduciary
responsibility understanding pending litigation trying to
be responsible with my questions in my comments as I
understand trust all of you will be as well. I would like
to open the floor to any questions or comments from
committee members are not numbers.
Yes, all the person Robinson followed by all the person
Lawson and then ultimate Chico.
Thank you are chairman. First of all, let me thank all of
our guests for their testimony this morning.
I cannot.
I can only imagine some of the testimony it is hard to
repeat because once you repeat that testimony, you're
reliving all your experiences. And so I just want to
commend you for that.
is chi
Is Chairman how do we get this information over to ctdi? I
can understand why CBD is not present certainly want our
guests to feel comfortable to be able to share their
experiences. But in this committee, how do we merge the
two? How do we get this testimony over to see PD? I'm going
to be able to learn on their side how they're doing with
this particularly having a new suit.
intended
Send it. Thank you.
if you
Appreciate the question or the person lost Robinson
certainly we can make sure to forward presentation and
testimony to see PD and in a responsible fashion. We get
them back here. I don't want my colleagues to shoot darts
at me for all the meetings that we have. But I think that
it would be great to listen and have them here to hear how
they're dealing with these issues.
That may be a conversation that I follow up with you with
offline. Thank you. Thank you order person Lawson.
take
Take a shower that was sort of my question as well as what
the policy process looks like. I think it's new for the
city and was a lot of us here. We're all so new and so I
know you mentioned in your testimony that the city council
can set policy at memd ccps I can as well and I got that.
So we're calling on local officials. Generally at their
different process is obvious that you know for city council
would be an ordinance and you all are more familiar with
that process and we're obviously willing to work with any
one who wants to be engaged to that. We have been working
on language. We really understand the legal issues here at
play. Like I mentioned we've spoken to other jurisdictions
on how they freeze things and implemented things and so we
have that knowledge base. We call him at ccpsa as well who
has the power to draft a policy work with see if you need
to negotiate that policy and I'm past that together with
the approval of the seven Commissioners and the approval of
the mayor and so they're all the things are outlined and
you know, we're calling all of you to ask but we're also
here and I'm willing to assist with that. I also appreciate
you all been there and Restless issue. I was looking at
your website, which I think is better on it. That's a
larger screen because I want to look at it that I represent
the 19th District on the North side and I think a lot of my
neighbors.
1/2
I've seen driving behavior get a lot worse than the last
few years while the enforcement of that has not gotten any
better. Right? And so I understand where those numbers are
not just in my neighborhood Citywide. I really look forward
to get getting anything again there. But the other question
I wanted to ask is do we have and it may be in there than
the reason for the Stop. Do we have those broken-down?
registration.
Registration opens up his Mansion start work. What
percentage of each issue is the most likely to use?
we
We have a date in a few different ways here is data that we
obtained directly from CPD which does include specific
types of offences, which we'd sort of grouped. So to make
it a little bit easier to understand so you can see here
the first bar the orange bar which is 30 / 31.13% of all
stops from 2019 through 2021 is for an unlit or broken
headlight or tail light and then it goes down from there.
So that's one source of the data. Another source of data.
We also have is from the Illinois Department of
Transportation as part of their annual traffic stop study
and that group's things and kind of General groups of
moving violations equipment violations of Licensing and
registration violations, and those are the numbers there
for that.
write a
Right and you'll have this to us as well the presentation.
thank
Thank you. I'm going back to that break down what I'm
they're working what I'm they're reconstituted a minor
traffic stop.
Under the policy as a minor traffic stop. Stop would be
things that are a lower-level that don't implicate a large
traffic safety risk. So that would be things like having
one out broken headlight or tail light when the other one
is still functioning and you can still see it on the road.
I have been registration that's expires recently. So so I'm
some jurisdictions have set different limits, but but
recently so that the person just hasn't been able to renew
it yet. I'm so it would be low things like that that would
include a seatbelt violation could be a conversation of
weather that would be included.
inter
in terms of
broken headlight or tail light
Are we having?
We haven't heard about corrective practices. How are we
correct that if we're not pulling people over for that.
What's the next step in making sure they're correcting it
because that could also lead to Tres geissens F1 tail light
is out or One Headlight show.
this
This is something we've been thinking a deeply about there
are some jurisdictions who have implemented corrective
strategies like the ability to mail something in about your
broken tail light or headlight or the ability to pay for
that. I'm through there's a there programs that allow
officers to send in money for someone to fix a broken
taillight and headlight and so there are things that that
we have been examining but we don't believe that one broke
until later had like it's the reason for should be a reason
for a potentially invasive and harmful traffic stopped and
the use of the resources at traffic stop as well.
What?
What's the other cities how are they?
addressing that issue of getting them to correct it it
could lead to other traffic actions and and
if
If we let them go.
If we let them go weeks and weeks and weeks without
dressing it could be bigger problem. So I'm just trying to
see what other musical leaves are arguing implemented some
of the corrector strategy to take the ability to mail in a
notice but I think most of the jurisdictions are operating
under the assumption that people know when they have a
broken have a tail lamp and maybe I'll have the money for
that and we'll get it fixed. It hasn't led to any increase
in traffic issues. I've been one broken tail light or
headlight because you still have the ability to see we have
not seen the data to show that it's led to any increase the
traffic issues which is why we're pulling out those
particular fences.
At least have a point for clarification when it comes to
speeding and cpdd everyday beat officer will not pull
anybody over for speeding. They don't have the technology
or the means to do that are typically there is a traffic
officer and oftentimes even then won't pull anybody over
for speeding. So I got to this point of clarification in
terms of why that number is probably will because if I
don't need to be more speeding stops because as my
colleague said traffic has gotten out of control in the
city.
enter
In terms of going back to other municipalities in the end.
You know.
You know, you would say they different types of strategies
and putting the place cuz you kind of elaborate a little
bit more on what would they have done or what would it
looks like over there?
so I can
So I can elaborate on a few. So one example is Philadelphia
that was an ordinance that was passed in 2020 to become the
driving equality bill. They implemented the Peace of the
policy that limits low-level offenses. So they took about
seven offences out of their State traffic code and they
said police officers cannot make a stop or primarily for
only one of these offenses if they see a more serious
offense that can stop them for both, but they can't only
limit stops for those particular offenses. They've seen a
reduction and stops a reduction of racial disparities and
asthma
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in a box
I have actually an uptick in the percentage and aunt and the
number of weapons recovered from traffic stops. But one
thing they did flag is that the there tends to be a bit of
a whack-a-mole problem. We're officers might end up
pivoting to using a different type of stop which is why we
think the three prong components of the stop are so
important because it takes more of a comprehensive Approach
at the policy. I can also speak to San Francisco police
department. So they are police commission pass a policy
that would limit on consent search is during traffic stops
and also take a similar approach to Philadelphia laying out
a certain small number of stops up low-level offenses that
police would not we're not able to make stops for solely
for those offenses that policy isn't a bit in the process
of getting approved by the police Union and then one other
approach that I'll mention is the Los Angeles Police
Department. I'm so they've taken the approach of limiting
pretextual stops of telling officers that you can't make
Protec shuell stops except for a certain number of pi.
ception
exceptions to safety and they've seen a reduction and stops
in a reduction and racial disparities there as well. And so
that was a that was a policy initiated by their Police
Department one last question. Do we have any information on
the amount of traffic stops this year is that available not
requested it yet, but we could take a look at that.
Do we have other questions or comes from the yes alderperson
Jesse followed by Alderman Hopkins?
you're my
Good morning, and I thank you all for this. I think
important and timely conversation with respect to the you
mention the effect of these traffic stops in mostly black
and brown neighborhoods to can you talk a little bit about
the effect on neighborhoods that are not black and brown
majority black and brown residents or their drivers were
sort of passing through those days.
Yeah.
Yeah, so in a presentation you saw a sort of the mat break
down which had those the red and orange of the little
complicated but in general and answers the question of what
happened and more majority white neighborhoods, which is
the increased likelihood that black in the teenage drivers
will be stopped because they don't look like the rest of
the people that live in that neighborhood. So and a lot of
the majority white neighborhood black drivers can be at 6
to 10 times more likely than their white neighbors to be
stopped. So if you happen to live in a majority white
neighborhood and you stand out you definitely are at higher
risk, I think would also gets a little bit overlooked his
only mention this but in these neighborhoods, they folks
really want their response times to be increased. They
really want all of these police services and although they
don't have as many stops the other as other black and brown
neighborhoods. They still have a lot of traffic stops and a
lot of those resources are going to protect stops.
thank
Thank you. And then I think the police department states
that they see these stopped as a way to sort of build
relationships with the community. I don't know how that
works. Can you tell me why their position is it doesn't
match up with the data that you presented.
So guess we have heard that these stop some officers feel
they'll be stops can be positive interaction. I think we've
heard today from a lot of infected people that seen those
red and blue lights in your rearview mirror that experience
that anxiety that trauma that breach in your day is
inherently not a positive interaction with it result in a
citation or not and they would prefer to see their officers
and get to know them in a different context where there's
no they don't feel like I suspect there a Target or old
black man. Let me Chicago most of my entire life. I haven't
had a moving violation over 30 years and last summer. I got
pulled over twice or three textiles what a Believer
prefectural stops in a dream about a week and a half. But
that accident bought an old car. They didn't have a front
license plate mouth and was pulled over twice for not
having a front license plate. I think the second
interaction was probably more.
and
Everything in the first and that was broad daylight was
about 1 or 2 in the afternoon. I was going to lunch and
Woodlawn and police officer drove past me and then made a
u-turn in order to investigate whether in order to make
this traffic stop and this is again the second stop in
about a week and I was a little bit overly concerned that
when I look at what some Woodlawn residents would perceive
as a lack of response from police or what some would
realize what would it would say that this is a neighborhood
that has four different Public Safety needs and stopping
people without having a front license plate or just felt
like an imposition and less of an opportunity to build
community support or
Provide some mechanism of safety in the city. And so again,
thank you all for this really time. We conversation. You
know Denzel Malik joy and Lauren. Thank you all. Look
forward to hearing more from this as we go slower.
Thank you. Thank you for sharing your experience or person
Hopkins.
Yeah, I think it was returning as we all remember the early
stages of the pandemic in 2020 where we shut down so many
different government functions including the Secretary of
State's office. By the way, you know, we were able to 4.
Time suspend driver's license renewal license plate
renewals were extended things like that. So
as
As a result of that.
As a result of that non-compliance has increased, you know,
the Secretary of State in the motor vehicle departments
across the country have acknowledged that I'm just looking
at the data that you provided where there was a significant
increase in stops and violations for expired license plates
in recent years as we've come out of the pandemic and try
to return to some semblance of normalcy in terms of
requiring people to get their annual renewal for their
license plate. Did you try to correlate the data at all
with the current non-compliance rates which are higher than
the three-time pre-pandemic rates.
We we have not done that research that we have not done
that compliance. I think it's our are feeling that the
reasons for compliance are things I can be handled and I'm
done more administrative way through notices from the
Secretary of State rather than a police stop that as you've
heard can escalate can cause drama and anxieties about as
bad as are feeling about how that could be handled. But no,
we have not done their research in terms of correlating
that particular so you would have knowledge then it's
possible that that's part of the explanation for an
increase in stops and violations for non-compliance with
license plate registration that is proportional to the
actual real-world experience that more people are failing
to renew their license plate on an annual basis than prior
to 2020.
I would have to look.
I would have to look at.
I would have to look at the data specific.
I would have to look at the data specifically. I also
mentioned that the other stops or registration license
license in violations have been increasing since 2015. I'm
not so much since it's certainly since 2020 but also before
that time and we see it as a pattern of the increased
between also the equipment and the equipment violation
stops as well. Go to us. That's the more kind of clear
Trend certainly perhaps compliance has affected it but to
us that is not the primary driver here just your old data
to show a spike 2021 in particular and license plate
non-compliance and I agree with you that administrative
enforcement in many ways is preferable easier, you know, it
it can cast a wider net and provide a means to incentivize
compliance, which is really what we're trying to do here.
I'll me know the revenue generated from license plates
renewal goes right into the State motor fuel tax forms, and
it pays for our roads and bridges. So it's there's a reason
that we tell people you have to keep your license plate.
today I own a motor vehicle and driving on the road is a
privilege and you have to pay for that privilege and I
think we all agree that it unless we find uniform Fairways
to enforce that, you know will continue to struggle with my
compliance rates and I also believe and we'll be talking
about this in my Public Safety Committee in the near future
that not only administrative enforcement functions, but
technology-based enforcement functions need to be
implemented to increase the safety of our roadways, you
know, we've had a lot
experience
Experience with a red light camera violation in Illinois.
We made some mistakes early on in that industry, but a lot
of those mistakes have been corrected and there's
technology now available that can enforce speeding other
traffic violations that pose a risk to other motorists to
cyclists and pedestrians and we're not doing it. We're not
doing it right now and that needs to change so I'm a big
advocate for using technology to enforce traffic laws and
return safety to our roadways. I'm in obviously one of the
advantages to that is the technology if it's implemented
properly takes out the human judgment Factor, you know, so
this is the definition of a of a pre contextual stop with
racial overtones doesn't necessarily apply to a camera
cameras in a human being I'm in and doesn't have those
biases in those prejudices. It's simply recognized as a
speeding vehicle and enforces it. So I think that's part of
the future that we should all be leaning into I'm to try
and return our roadway.
to walk
To know some some semblance of safety my one we're seeing
injuries and deaths on our highways increasing an
exponential race. Right now. We have to take action. I'm in
that needs to be part of the solution. Thank you for having
us here in this German.
thank
Thank you chair. I also wanted to make sure Hopkins for
bringing up technology in ways that we could transform our
policing and I look forward to that work and in the Public
Safety Committee as well. Also wanted to thank everyone who
testified here today. It is is wrong that you have to
continue to tell your stories this wrong that you have to
continue to tell your stories is wrong that you have to
continue to tell your story. So I just wanted to appreciate
you for showing up and we really need to continue to show
up for each other including those who are not here today
the officers who are sworn to protect us who who are who
have served and who can testify that.
you know if
You know, this job is very difficult to do I talk to you
officers who were at the end of their careers ready for
retirement. They couldn't wait to get out because their job
is just it's untenable what is expected of them including
traffic stops. And I think that our officers and our
residents no matter where you live. I deserve to to be safe
and to do their jobs and way is that
that we all
That we all want.
That we all want we all want Public Safety. And so I
appreciate you bringing this up. I
I also want to say that in Edgewater, you know, we talked
about the mostly white neighborhoods in the in the city and
that's why I don't want more police presence but not not in
the way of vehicles. They actually want officers to get out
of their cars and to stop by businesses and say hello and
you know Waves kids to know their names that's the kind of
presents that we want seeing 177% increase in our
neighborhood for a traffic stop that not make sense to us
as we are, you know still waiting is Kyle mentioned for
follow-ups for hit-and-run that are happening on Broadway
and on Clark Street with the destiny and sand bicycle is so
I'm
I wanted to ask thank you for your data driven report not
just here in Chicago. We shouldn't be leading for sure. I
also want to say that if I drive outside of Chicago, I want
all of our residents to feel safe in every part of the
state and don't curious you say that you are compiling and
collaborating and coordinating with other jurisdictions.
And I'm glad to hear that you're you know, you're listening
to bigger cities Across the Nation, but how about in other
parts of Illinois? How are those conversations going?
So we've been able to sit down with a couple of state
legislators and other folks around Illinois. We haven't
been as much of that the organizing cuz he want to start in
Chicago with in Chicago can be a leader in this but we
understand that there are different legal implications on
the state level as well. And so we're calling on the state
legislators have to recognize that this is a problem to
acknowledge that this is an issue and I think about it in
the future but we think that we are at a prime opportunity
here in Chicago given the data given the awareness around
the issue given the alignment here to act. So that's why
we're starting the time is any part of that question and I
appreciate that it's it is
We really must enter the data here that black people are
disproportionately affected and impacted and their families
by I'm traffic stops. But our roads are you know, what?
They're Built For Speed and they're built for Ford Transit.
No, not just in Chicago not just in our words but across is
the estate and so I just wanted to to ask how how is it
that we're working? Because I think that again Chicago
should be leading but I'm curious to know because in my in
my ward in the 48 wake me up one of the most diverse word
the most, you know over 50% white, but we also have the
largest population of lgbtq plus people and transphobia is
really On The Rise, especially for black Trans people and
they get stopped that's also an opportunity to
to lose in life. We have to stop ending lives because of
traffic stops on an unreal to me, especially when and also
I just want to say that there is a lack of understanding
right now of what we're doing in terms of how we're keeping
each other safe.
an
And also to your point how we are incentivizing safety.
don't
Companies that to me we we really need to have more traffic
stops those fines and fees. They're going to like pull us
out of debt. I mean, this is not the way so they need to be
not only good policy, but I'll still go a shift in the
thinking of how we are talking about public safety and who
are really censoring.
be
Because it shouldn't matter.
where you
Where you live in Chicago or your identity or your race?
Tell him you skin or your ability, you know if you if you
are disabled and you are.
Being told to get out of the car or if you have a speech
impediment much less other layers of identity. You know
what this is. I just wanted to thank you again for this
hearing. I really appreciate the work and thank you Sheriff
also really talking about the fact that you have had very
little reason to feel threatened. I do. It doesn't feel
good. You know it to be stopped by a police officer your
Your Privilege protects you in so many ways exact.
you think
Thank you. Thank you very much for your for sharing order
woman Francis.
Thank you, Kevin. The first I want to thank my colleagues
cuz when we can have respect for conversations over
difficult topics, it's always a good day and government
there's a couple of things that I want to shed some light
on and then I have a couple questions you do not seem too
long ago. I was pulled over for allegedly being on my cell
phone. I didn't have the cell phone on my person. So it's
quite impossible to be on my cell phone during that traffic
stopped and I'm privileged enough to be articulate to know
how to behave when pulled over there are folks all across
the city of Chicago who have trauma who may not react to
those situation appropriately so I can understand why we
want to have the conversation around some minor traffic
violations. I've also want to say that I've seen police
officers behave well at least
play
Places where I've had someone shine that light come up on
the side of you say hay head lights out you want to go get
that fixed, right? And so I know that there are ways to get
better in this area and I have hope in that, you know, we
can have conversations that allow us to drop policy to make
us all feel sick right now and we're having conversations
like this. I just want folks to keep that in mind. It's not
to take Digs at folks. Although there are some structural
issues that allow for Nate racism and anti Blackness to
take place in the city of Chicago more answering the
dialogue world doing it with the intention that we wanted
to still the same Chicago or civilians and four offices,
right? Because at the end of the day, the person is behind
a badge is also human very capable of human error.
I also know that in my ward and and maybe this is a
question. You cannot answer. Maybe it's a question we have
for CPD but maybe some of my colleagues know the answer. I
do feel like I see traffic stops hit an all-time high at a
certain time of the month. But like we are in our
communities and sometimes I don't see no one pulled over
and there's like this one intersection in my neighborhood
where I feel like I'm getting pulled over several times a
day at a certain week of the month. Is there something
match to quota or or My systems issue is CBD in which war
or see
Or seeing higher traffic stops at a certain time of the
month or week. I don't I don't know the answer to it's
genuine question. Right? It's an observation that I have
made in my community and one that I think is worth looking
at a policy if they are not here listening to the maybe
parse the data in a way that looks at Trends over the
course of the month. Can the data get to that granular of a
level.
that's
That that's absolutely possible. We can we can park it by
time of day by day and by year. We haven't looked
specifically at year or buts or if you need we hadn't
looked specifically at month. We had looked at year-end and
over the years that we've looked since 2015. There hasn't
been there really isn't a trend in terms of higher times of
the year. Do we have not looked at that up at that like by
each month in terms of which were at what other peeps are
valleys, but we could ask awesome. Thank you and then the
other piece and you know, I appreciate your Hopkins points.
Not a fan of people paying a lot of tickets, but I think
that there is this administrative way and which we can grab
your things like expire city stickers plates or even
natural wear and tear of a vehicle. Are we all have
vehicles for those light bulbs have an expiration date and
you may have gotten in your car and you know, you didn't
turn on your car look at the back lights to determine
whether that.
I think we should find ourselves in the position to have a
conversation about how we develop in the administrative a
process that allows us to yes. Hopefully if you want to
keep folks say it's all the mosquitoes point, but we also
don't want to trim analyze things like wear and tear of a
vehicle. We don't want to criminalize things like an
expiration of a City Sticker in a license plate in this is
not to say that every officer's criminalizing those
behaviors. We have seen a tendency to get there with a
traffic stop. So I'm super grateful that you are here with
his presentation is data-driven and I you know my
colleagues to continue this conversation about what
processes do we put in place to keep everyone safe that
allows us to Whole Foods, blossom tree policies that
Senator pedestrians walking civilians bikers and not just
vehicles. I mean the the issue they were also hearing today
is that so
don't
Don't feel.
Don't feel safe like crossing the street and we just have
to get better. And I think this is a great place to start
and get any further comments or questions from the members
of a sir Cruse. It's just all so, so thank you chairman. If
you end up hearing what a lot of my colleagues are saying
we are welcome to have also the police department in this
conversation I did.
isn't
is imported
is important all we
Is important always to see the other side of things in
their perspective of a certain things and how we can get
better how to can we can make this legislation strong as
well to make sure we keep everybody safe, you know,
everybody's going to have something different in their
Wards mind, you know to my colleagues, you know, it's
driving me hear it has been bad where we do want police
officers to be a stop sign says I'm to do enforcement
because we have been seeing that a lot of people are not
stopping. I have witnessed myself. A lot of people are not
stopping or one of my young I'm rested since I'm
fortunately was one of my cyclist was hit and killed
because of someone who did not make a stop sign. So those
are the things that we're seeing, you know people again
feel not safe while crossing the street. There's just so
much to this item baseboard. We hearing it to element
happens request as well when it comes to use utilize the
administrative side of things. I know some people
in
You know pain tickets probably is not idea or but it
doesn't Force the good behavior because if you have to pay
something out of pocket, you will think about it and follow
the procedure. So I think they're just so much we can do
with this. I think this is a start but we do want to make
sure that I leave in my end that we do bring the police
department to these conversations as well and see how we
can do. I'll just leave legislation better and stronger
just to make sure that we keep everybody safe.
appreciate that very much for
I appreciate that very much for his chair and just said to
reaffirm cuz the question is come up with a few times CPT
is the reason for their not being present has no grounding
in disinterest or a lack of engagement on this issue and
solely related to pending litigation that is outside the
purview of this committee or even those who were speaking
with us today. I just want to clarify that point for those
thinking they're not here because they don't care that it's
solely related to the pending litigation.
I appreciate I just wanted to take a moment to
affirmatively reaffirm that point. Thank you.
I need for.
Any further questions or comments from the room?
I regarding follow up in and also what you just said about
CPT there many different. I mean we have so many different
ways to engage with Public Safety are there other
departments that you were going to invite to this committee
to hear from besides CPT?
not my
that might be a
That might be a question that I will follow up with you
after the conclusion of the committee meeting.
Thank you. Good very good question. Thank you.
Final points with that being said again a real strong.
Thank you to the folks who shared with us today both
anecdotally with the broader data. It is as old woman
Monopoly work really hard.
and
oftentimes almost unfair to ask you to share something that
I'm sure was a traumatizing experience for many and I will
also see two other woman went to his two older person. You
can see your I feel like the vulnerability and sharing your
own personal experiences on this issue. I really deeply
respect and I'll say it it I respect and it makes me very
proud to be your chair that's in the time when there is
such heat on issues related to Rachel and ethnic
disparities that we can as we shared have a very respectful
and balanced and productive conversation on this topic
makes me very proud and appreciative of your time.
With that being said with no further.
With that being said with no further business before the
committee may have a motion to adjourn.
order
Older women Manhattan worth so moves all those in favor
signify by saying I we are adjourned. Thank you.