Good morning.
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The meeting on a committee committee xandros is now called
to order there's one item on the agenda. I'll call the road
now all the men of Sparta.
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Alderman Lopez is present
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Alderman Coleman its present all them anymore is present
all them and Curtis will be remote today.
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Alderman O'Shea Is present alderwoman Taylor is present
Alderman Mosley.
alderperson Rodriguez
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is present all the person see Joe Lopez is present.
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All the person who wins has is present.
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Alderperson Burnett is present all the person Irving is
present.
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We will be asking for Alderman Taliaferro to report remote
Alderman Cruise all different person cruises present all
the person Vice chair.
At present all the wagons all the person waguespack is
present.
All the person Conway his present all the person Conway is
present all the person ramirez-rosa is present all the
person be a guess is present. All the first admits is
present all the persons cuz I do is present order meds.
Bazardo is in the house all the only person can do Gene is
present all the person vasquez's present alderperson
vice-chair Napolitano is present all the person Riley is
present all the person. Can you send his present all the
person lost it it's all the person Gardener is present.
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All the person Clay is present all the person Martin is
present alderperson Manahawkin workers present all the
person had his present and all the person Silverstein is
present. We have a quorum
Optimum Rx present I have you sir.
Before we get started. I'm going to ask everybody to
respect the process today.
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I'm going to ask everybody to respect the process today.
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Can I get a motion by ottoman pasado to let Alderman Curtis
Alderman Taliaferro and all them and hard to attend this
meeting by remote means by the formative vote of all
members present for the Roll Call.
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Alderman Curtis taliferro and Hall are allowed to attend
this meeting by remote means and will be added to the roll
call used to determine form.
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Thank you. Thank you madam, Tim.
I can have a
Madam chair
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At this time I've been informed that we have no Public
public comments and that concludes the public comment
purse. The resolution 2020 300 5108 referendum question
regarding the public mental health clinic. There's a
substitute for this item. Can I get a motion to accept the
substitute? So move by Alderman Dow
Alderman Hopkins is present.
Go ahead Alderman Lopez.
on the
On the motion to accept the substitute object and ask for a
roll call vote on matter.
We will now have a roll call.
do
Do weather see whether we accept the motion to substitute
or not. So let's do a roll coal.
your boy
your voting yes to accept
Does that?
that's up to
yes to it.
Okay public. Well, then you're going to I'm going to ask
I'm going to ask the Sergeant at Arms to clear the room.
Okay.
go to
Go to stop statue before you the steps that you'll be for
you.
does
That substitute before you have a copy of it in front of
you. And so the substitute is a referendum.
So the substitute is before you
it's on your desk.
Okay, let me just hold for just a minute. I make sure it
was electronically sent to you and she will make sure that
you have one.
I'm sorry automobile. Just give me a minute cuz we're in
the middle of a roll call.
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After the road call, I'll make sure.
Okay, everybody I know is to deny the substitutes the right
all the men of Sparta.
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28 yeas 18 knows the motion moves forward to accept the
substitute.
Okay, automobile. Had a question.
Yeah.
Yes, automobile had a question. Okay, thank you. Madam.
Chair a question that I have is just the other day. We had
a meeting where people that were voting remotely. We're not
allowed to be counted as Quorum and you stated that they
will be counted towards Quorum so which is it people
remotely can be or they can't be worth what it's worth on.
I cannot speak to other meetings I can speak to this one,
but I can say that today after you reached after you.
app
after you reach Quorum everybody who is remote is allowed
to
Dana Corporation counsel, please. Give an opinion.
mark
Mark Siegel assistant Corporation counsel
Though I I can't give a formal legal opinion, but I can
tell you what the law states with. The last date is that
remote members cannot be counted towards Quorum but may
participate in the meeting provided the Quorum has already
been established. Okay, so they can that be counted towards
Quorum. That's correct. I need to be a quorum established
before they are allowed to participate remotelink. Thank
you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Secondly, you know, I'm
just really really perplexed that we have been actively
trying to have a committee meeting and have dialogue and
conversation about the ordinance to put the question of
sanctuary City on the ballot and then there's been there's
been an aggressive.
An aggressive movement to prevent that from happening.
And if we want to collaborate and work together and try to
work things out, you know, my phone is always on and nobody
has ever called me and said automobile. Can you come in and
we can talk about that Ordnance? Nobody's ever called me.
So I'm always willing to sit down and you know come up with
a compromise or you can't compromise with people who don't
want to sit down and talk to you now. I did get a call at
6:30 last night from Jeff Levine asking me to talk about a
substitute to the resolution and I asked him to send it to
me. He said well, I can't send it to you.
but
But I can read it to you.
and
And I said, you know, that doesn't do me any good and I
said, you know, this is the 12-hour and now is not the time
to try to negotiate without the person who sponsored the
ordinance and when you look at you know, the ordinance we
have numerous amount of sponsors on that awareness and
we're all willing to sit down and collaborate because of me
and that's the word everybody likes to use nowadays and I
would like to collaborate and you know, I'm always willing
to do that, but you can't collaborate with people who don't
want to collaborate with you. I'm I think I'm
very reasonable person
Very reasonable person. I think you know negotiated and
collaborated my entire career. And so to put this forward
to try to squeeze out the ordinance of sanctuary City I
think is doing a disservice to this entire city, so
we we would very much like to just
we were
we want very much like to just have the people have a
voice.
The people have never had a voice on on that particular
ordinance or resolution and we spending a lot of money.
We're spending a lot of money every single day. I think we
have 240 million a month now ladies and gentlemen, welcome
to 40 million a month.
and
to shut people out from having a boys is not what this city
Foundation was built on at the same time. You're asking us
to let the people have a boys on bring home, Chicago.
Are you want that boy?
but
But you don't want the boys on Sanctuary City.
now
not
Not a difference is the Saints the Saints word City you all
is a non-binding resolution.
It's just a discussion.
it
It's to hear what the people of Chicago are feeling and
thinking.
but
But when you don't want when you don't want the people to
hear you.
when
When you don't want the people to have a voice.
You have chaos is what you see going on. That's why you
seen the chaos in this city because you're trying to
silence a voice of certain people that just want to be
heard. And so and so my hope and throws behind people here
in this body is just give the people Chicago voice you are
giving people a chance to say yes or no.
We don't we don't want.
people to be disenfranchised
and
And so I think that's what this is doing. I think this is
really throwing fuel on the fire and to not talk to the
people who sponsored the ordinance I think is a disservice.
and
this is this is part of the division that people are
talking about the division is not coming from the other
side. The division is coming from inside. That's what the
division is coming from.
It's all ladies and gentlemen, if you all would just give
the people a chance to say yes or no, that's all it is. And
so I respectfully ask everybody to vote this soreness down
both the soreness down and we can still today bring the
sanctuary City or in this before this body by the majority
of the members present to talk about it. Put it on the
ballot and let the people decide what they want to do with
their government. Thank you matter to me. Thank you and
Lopez.
Thank you. Thank you chairman and good morning members of
the rules committee.
At the alderman have his day.
I guess.
Again, thank you. Thank you chairman. And yes to the people
in the gallery. We understand the frustration of public
comment, but allow me to read what actually The Substitute
of this resolution state.
The original dealt with whether or not the city of Chicago
should open more mental health clinics and considering that
our mayor Brandon Johnson said that he was committed to
opening more and was going to budget to do anymore. There
was no reason to even have this as a question. It was
simply a tactic as my colleague said to squeeze out the
original question that was proposed Channel Chicago remain
a sanctuary City.
Now ladies and Gentlemen Just substituted The Substitute
question is as follows should the city of Chicago impose
reasonable limits on the city's providing resources for
migrants Sheltering such as funding caps and shelter
occupancy time limits if necessary to prevent a substantial
negative impact on Chicago's current residence.
that
That is the question.
Okay, that is the question.
I do.
I don't think they're mad at me.
but the
But that is the question Madam chairman and members of the
committee that we are now putting before that. We are
discussing now putting before the voters. Should we limit
how much we spend which sets us up?
Go to Quest.
Could a question that what happens when you reach the
limit? What are you going to do? When you say we spent all
the money we're willing to spend so you still have bus is
arriving here. This question does not answer the issue as
to why people continue to be shipped to the city of Chicago
and they are shipped here because we remain on a Bosch and
I'm staying a welcoming City a sanctuary City, even though
Republicans and Democrats are not taking full advantage of
that.
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Adam Sherman, okay.
madame
Madam chairman I can continue louder
we
We want clear the room and if we can't get order Madame
chairman, I can say this I to do not support this
resolution because it's automatically sets the city of
Chicago up for failure again.
We need to vote this down. We need a clean referendum that
simply put the question to all of Chicago. Shall we remain
a sanctuary City? Because what we know and what so many in
this room fear is that the true Coalition of between the
African-American and Latino communities does exist around
this question because both communities want an Intuit. Both
committees are being forced to house individuals while
those that are proponents of this remain steadfast without
a single migrant shelter in their communities. It is
unacceptable that we continue down this path.
I did.
Additionally Madam chairman. I need to clarify something
every meeting at the behest of his honor. I invoke rule 59
which allows for remote participation of members.
To be perfect.
To be perfectly honest it is not up to the chair or
presiding officer and whether or not individuals are
allowed to participate it is up to the majority of those
present here physically to issue a motion to allow those
individuals to participate count towards Quorum which did
not happen. So if we want their voices to be heard, we must
first incorporate a motion to bring them into this meeting
officially in accordance with rule 59 because we do have a
quorum of bodies here present their participation is only
as a spectator up until this point unless we grant them
permission. Otherwise
They've been granted already ottoman Lopez by all them and
dial are there other questions automatically panettone.
Thank
Lake Camanche
what were
what really gets me about this situation right now is about
4 weeks ago. We posed a simple question to be on the
referendum simple question. Do you as a resident City
Chicago believe that we should remain a sanctuary City.
It's a simple question.
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in imposing that question
when
When we put it together we wanted to hear from them.
we
We wanted to hear from everybody outside of City Hall in
four weeks. We've had everything done to keep this question
off a referendum. Everything has been done so much so that
we took five roll call vote until enough of us weren't here
or were pushed out of the room where this could not be put
on as a referendum.
The entire city seen that happen.
In three days you created another.
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Question or a substitute substitute question to a
referendum in 3 days.
We're
we were
We wrote it and we came in here and we voted on to hear it
or they have it submitted. We can't even get ours out of
rules. We can't even get our foot to be talked about in
these Chambers.
All right everybody.
are
Everybody has to have a seat or you will be cleared out.
are
Alderman Napolitano, go ahead Alderman luppatatong to go
ahead.
so
So here's my question. Let's just make this as simple as
possible. This is what this question is causing right now.
if
If we are body and city council members that are elected to
represent our residence and asking a simple question cuz
they are dying to be heard and worked at 9 that then we
avoided Council. We are not representative of our
neighborhoods in our communities. They were we're
representative Justice building and that's not what we're
supposed to be doing here were supposed to be answering
them.
We're supposed to be answering to our neighborhood.
Okay, let's clear the room sergeant-at-arms. Please clear
the room.
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where
We're going to stand at in 45 minutes by the sergeant in
arms clears the room.
the song
play
Ladies and gentlemen. Can I have your attention, please? Can
I please have your attention?
if
If you are planning on staying in the meeting, please have
a seat if you continue with disturbance the room will be
clear.
Please have a seat.
I'm begging of you to please have a seat. This is the last
warning.
play
ladies and gentlemen
I'm asking you one last time. Please don't continue to
disturb this meeting. Please have a seat receive the
information that's being distributed and keep your voices
to a minimum.
If I have to ask you again.
To cease and desist with noise. I will have you removed
from this chamber.
Thank you.
All right.
We are going to recess this meeting until Thursday at noon.
Thank you.
For clarity so that everybody could hear me this meeting
has been recessed until Thursday the 16th at noon.
can
Can a tree be?
Can everybody here can my colleagues all hear me?
Ladies and gentlemen, can I have your attention, please?
can I