Good afternoon, everyone.
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The committee on police and fire.
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Will now come to order.
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We will have a roll call to establish a quorum. Please note
that a, yes, or present response may be deemed as a, yes.
Vote for when a quorum is used or later. Item will be
dealing with the role call vice-chairman Lamont Robinson.
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so it's a rule, 4959 by Sarah Robinson, and all the women
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requested to appear by way of remote or video conference.
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Uvalde Mitchell, all those in favor, say aye all of those
opposed name and opinion up and opinion of the chair dies.
Have it in the motion carries, we will now begin with
public comment. We do have a public, one public speaker on
mr. George Blakemore, mr. Blakemore
where,
Where you at mr. Blakemore, can you step over to the mic?
For purposes of a quorum, we do have all them and Curtis
present.
And all non Committee Member so I will be recorded as
present as well. We do. We do see your presence.
You're?
You have the police meeting like this and only one public
speaker. I hold you all of you responsible for that.
Play.
You too, mr. Taliferro you thought you were going to be a
serious now, you going to have to fight to stay to be our
all to the policeman on that.
In.
In that own that car of a vehicle. It says Serve and
Protect. Who do you? Serve, and who do you protect?
The pole.
Apple.
The police department, we spend millions of dollars just on
police brutality cases selling a billion dollar budget.
You.
You meant to say the police department is racist, two
years, 50% of the police, all white.
40% are Hispanic or black? Why we've been having these
black sheep?
Eva.
Even.
Even doing John Burke face and a hat place. It doesn't mean
you're serving the black community. The games that people
play. That's why they want to challenge you mr. Blake
Moore. That's why they don't want you to speak up or speak
out this Cesspool right here with all Democrat.
Best.
That showed that is no democracy. Do you know what 69 mean?
Okay, if you like, this Channel or one-party system and
then in a few minutes, mr. Blakemore, your 3 minutes is up
on your black elected officials. Know you can
so,
Go to all of all Chicago in the 77 Community. You deserve
the type of government you get, and you get the County
government using. So use that there are all of these
people. Now, they're punishing. The police bring an illegal
immigrant in to the police station.
Reply.
The police station in infected government.
Who.
Who directed? No participation and you are just stuck. What
a old man nappy hair? No, big lip and a black eye quick.
Aldi.
Thank you, mr. Blake Moore. I'll we do have mr. Peters
anska and I probably have pronounced your name wrong who's
elected to as a witness to elected? Who has elected to a
electronically repeater?
Peter.
Peter is not present. Thank you.
I do.
I bet it is all public comment. Let me think Mister
Blakemore for speaking on this matter and certainly
appreciate your presence here. Join in this day, Mr.
Blakemore,
There.
There's one item before the committee today we have a 2020
3-3 86 for the appointment of Chief Larry smelling as
superintendent of the Chicago Police Department. We joined
today by Chief Snelling and members of the Chicago, Police
Department. So before we get in the questions and comments.
If we can take an opportunity to have the members of the
Box introduce themselves,
and we,
And we can start on it in with you.
What?
What is Brian McDermott Patrol?
Stephanie.
Good afternoon, Sarah Boyle acting chief of staff.
that's,
Afternoon. Deputy Tracy Walker Bureau of internal affairs.
Could a?
Good afternoon. Deputy chief Kevin Bruno Bureau of
detectives.
Yeah.
Best new Commander. Mackenzie Inspection Division.
Good.
Good afternoon, Commander Wallace, Commander crew, Network
group.
Hello Dan O'Malley, general counsel.
Good.
Good afternoon director, Glenn Brooks.
Could.
Good afternoon, Commander Bob Bennett Office of the
superintendent.
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Grafton.
Good afternoon, Leslie. Ciletti deputy director.
Good. A
Good afternoon everyone. And also joining me is
superintendent, Waller, and chief Snelling before we begin,
I'll question the questions and comments. I'm anyone
wishing to make a comment or ask a question about Chief
Snelling. Please do so by raising hand, will recognize you.
I would say, raise your hand function, but since we no
longer have that, I'll just raise your hand and will
recognize you as soon as I mean, you'll be calling it
wondering what you been recognized before we go into
comments and questions and comments.
Alderman Moore.
Okay, are we will we will have committee members answer
questions and make comments first followed by nine
committee members. Again, in an order with John, we
recognized you before we go into Chief snellings opening
remarks. I like they want to take this opportunity to give
superintendent Waller and opportunity to speak as well as
superintendent Waller. Thank you jamming. I just want to
say briefly as we go through this difficult and challenging
times, I could not be more excited. First and foremost, the
honor of being able to come back and leave. This department
has been an honor, but I can only take it so far. And now
this person to my left, this young man will be able to take
us into this. Next are in this next administration. His
administration
I really have the utmost confidence and believe that this
will probably be one of the best times for the city of
Chicago in for the police department, is he in. I've had
many conversations will I know many things but he has his
own mind and his heart is truly what the department and in
for the city. So I just say doing these times and we know
that we will hit some bumps in the road and we will be
challenging. But I have the utmost confidence and belief
that Larry Snelling is is the perp
Person for this job. So,
Person for this job, so thank you.
Person for this job. So thank you all.
Thank.
Thank you. Thank you, superintendent. And let me say, I
certainly appreciate your service to the city of Chicago in
your complete dedication. When you retired and come back to
serve the city to me, that significantly shows you're
you're around your dedication and your loyalty and love for
this city and the people that reside here as well, and
thank you.
I believe the new superintendent probably has a house in
Florida that he's going to be enjoying soon, if not
Florida, Arizona, police officers retire. But
superintendent With all sincerity, thank you so much for
your service and your appreciate you might also like to
take this opportunity to thank the Adam gross.
Present.
President driver and as well as vice president for military
and all the commissioners of the community commissions but
Public Safety and accountability. For those of you that
don't know, this is, this is somewhat historic legislation
that this Council approved last year in in the way that we
engage in hiring is superintendent in the way, we engage
the public and making sure they are Park and have a voice
that can be heard in the hiring of a superintendent. So I
have to get shot out. If I could use that term to the
community commission for Public Safety and accountability.
Are they spent countless hours? I'm doing a nationwide
search for the perfect person for the city of Chicago, to
put our hope in our trust in, and they came up with Chiefs
Nelly. And so I think they have done a fine job and I look
forward to these proceedings in the proceedings of next
week, that that will confirm him as our next Super
So, keep doing a great job over there to come in and
commission and I certainly appreciate Tyler's effort and
getting making sure that she's selling was presented to the
public prior to being presented to this body. So I was that
being said, are you looking for the Chiefs known him for
his opening remarks, each of you should have received a
copy of his opening remarks and now we will that will be
followed by a questions and comments from the committee and
other members of the council.
Before.
Before I start with the comments, I just want to address.
Interim, superintendent Walla in for the great job that
he's done since he came back a day. I can't tell you the
sacrifices that he's made by doing this, you know,
sacrifices with his family, but he did it for the love of
the department. Love in the city. I don't think that I've
ever seen, anybody who loves this job in the city, more
than Chief superintendent Waller, I wouldn't be here today.
If it were not the superintendent wallet, I can tell you
that for certain, he saw things in me that I probably
didn't see him myself at the time and he pushed and pushed
and pushed and pushed.
and he put,
And he pushed me into this position and I can't thank him
enough for it. And I think everybody here has benefited
from superintendent wallet coming back and taking the reins
and getting the department back on track and getting people
excited about what's going on in the city again. So we've
all benefited from it from top to bottom, the department,
in the entire city. So with that, I just want to thank
superintendent waller, or the work that he's done. Been a
mentor to me and hundreds of other people on this job and
it is, your work will never be forgotten.
Andy.
and neither were you, so,
And neither were you sound. So I just want to say thank you.
Okay.
Good afternoon, Jeremy Taliaferro, members of the
committee, and police, and fire, and all city council
staff. I want to start by expressing my gratitude to this
body for your leadership, and work on behalf of all
residents, and our First Responders in Chicago, as a
31-year member of the Chicago Police Department and a proud
Chicago. When I know firsthand the importance of your work,
This.
this committee and the Chicago Police Department continue
to share in the same vital mission to enhance and ensure
Public Safety, through partnership, education and
Innovation is truly an honor to sit. Before you today in
this position, it is a privilege to put on this uniform and
depend on this star everyday.
Is.
It is a privilege to Serve and Protect the communities of
the city and work side-by-side with community members and
the men and women of the Chicago Police Department right
now in my office hanging just above my desk is my recruit
t-shirt from the academy, my daughter actually in case that
for me
it's
It's a simple plain.
Grey t-shirt with white lettering on the front. It was a
shirt that I wore when I was working out in the academy, is
a new recruit.
I'm a.
I look at that t-shirt, every time I walk into my office, I
kept it all these years because when I look at it, it
reminds me how I started where I started and my growth
throughout this department.
Remind.
It reminds me of mistakes I made and how I continue to
learn from those mistakes. But it also reminds me when I'm
looking at Young new offices that they have to go through
the same process.
be a
They have to learn to grow and get better at this job just
like I did.
It's
It helps me to be a better. Leader, Mentor focused on
accountability, transparency personal and professional
development throughout my career.
From work.
I'm working for troll to serving as an academy instructor
to advising with senior Command Staff. It is symbolize the
necessary steps that must be taken on any Journey.
That t-shirt is an anchor for me. My other anchor is a photo
of myself as a child growing up in a challenging
neighborhood.
A.
At 4.
That photo is of me and about three or four other unkept
dirty, little kids standing on my block at 70th and Wallace
in the middle of the Inglewood Community. This photo is a
reminder of where I come up of where I come and where my
heart is planted, is the foundation of why do this job and
connect. Me to those who are growing up and similar
circumstances. That's why the privilege of being a public
servant is something I've never taken lightly and I never
will.
and,
And it'll be my privilege to lead this great Department
into our next chapter. Thank you.
Take a
Bacon cheese Snelling. Oftentimes, we're reminded in life
and how insignificant we are especially when the media tell
you move back because they want to get a picture to the
Chiefs Nelly.
I got.
I guess we got to be light-hearted in here a little bit.
Okay let's start. Our first question, the comments will go
to 23rd Ward.
Are.
Our moments bars. And one of the top issues I had heard
from police officers is Mental Health Resources.
The department is headed in the right direction. But what
more do you think needs to be done? Really? Look at time
off office. I'm in this is a very challenging job in the
things that they see everyday. I was just dealing with
vicarious trauma because, you know, we go to shootings
homicides children who have been abused. Those things can
take a toll on an officer. They can take a toll on and off
since I key. So what we need to do is make sure that those
officers are getting the proper amount of time off to
decompress. We also need to make sure that we have
resources in place at the district level, and it just
available to that office. Even when the office is not at
work. Someone for that officer to speak to. We also need
our leadership to step up and recognize when officers need
that extra help in the pushed in there. We also need to
educate our officers to stay.
What we?
but when they see their partner,
What? When they see their partners for their fellow
officers who may be in crisis at the time. So we need to do
a better job of building e, a p and are getting more
clinicians in place to help offices.
I want.
I want to touch on the Merit process.
Do you have any plans on codifying the Merit process? You
know, we have officers that I think could benefit from a
more formalized process by which they can strive towards
such as recognizing accreditation, Education, and Training
certification. Do you think the Chicago Police Department
could benefit by somehow adopting, those factors in a
formal way, for the process also needs to be a part of the
testing process. The common mistake that people make and
the myth behind me reprise to damir process. Is it an
officer doesn't have to take or has an exam to be eligible
for marriage? That is absolutely not true. You cannot be
eligible for marriage unless you pass and take both
portions of that test. Now, the mayor
Process is.
process is actually pretty robust. Its extensive their
interviews and credentials are taken into consideration.
Also, the body of work the process for promotions it's just
simple. Did the first part of the test which is general
knowledge and then the second part which is in box I think
the entire price
Let's can benefit from that.
This can benefit from that. So if the mirror process as it
stands right now is follow the way it's supposed to be
followed, I think it's a process that will help us identify
the best and the brightest to be promoted. I want to touch
on the 1500 police vacancies in the Chicago Police
Department. I anticipate a push by some of my colleagues to
cut the police budget, by targeting bacon position that we
are currently trying to fill the recruitment.
What?
What strategies do you think the department can Implement
to better recruits? Strong candidates to the police academy
needs to include the community? It can't just be a
billboard with police officers on that billboard. There
needs to be a connection of the work that police officers
do in the community and help to build a community. So at
this point, if we're looking for people who want to work in
the community who want to build in their communities, who
want to make their communities better, want to bring the
communities together then, do, if we can start to recruit
those individuals, make them a part of the recruitment
process and not just have it be of a process to hire police
officers. You're joining the department to build and help
in your communities. So, I
I think we need a
I think we need.
I think we need a better push on getting out into the
communities and we, we need to look at our city colleges.
Are our inner-city youth right now. Who are not working, or
we're looking for a leg up, as soon as they're finished
with the city college, or when they go to a City College,
this this can be a gateway to moving into, not only Chicago
Police Department, but also the fire department or other
city jobs and I think this will also help with our youth
programs also and my final question is
Should.
Chicago has seen a spike in massive amounts such as riots
protests and the so-called teen teams friend. We just saw
one this past weekend with the Mexican Independence Day,
the Mayhem downtown and in my ward on Pulaski Road where
multiple officers were hurt and weapons were recovered.
Arrests and citations are timely and it takes police
officers off the beat for hours with the Manpower shortage,
it creates a situation we're smaller and fractions like
this orderly, conduct are overlooked.
I,
I see.
I think.
I think quickly enforcing the smaller in. Fractions can
dissuade people from committing more serious crimes.
My.
My question, what if any Avenues can we explore to use
technology to quickly issue citation parking tickets,
moving violation and knobs or cite and release arrest under
the safety act. So officers can streamline the process and
hold people accountable without being off the beat for too
long.
Do.
Do we know of any other departments? That have gone beyond
the old ticket books? If a red light or speed camera can
issue a citation, buy multi instantaneously, what can we
give? The short-handed be pops.
Bet.
Better. That is an excellent question, Alderman. And this is
where the Chicago Police Department needs to help in the
backing of the community. This, this is where
when we are making decisions on how we're going to handle
crowds, and you mentioned this this past weekend for the
Mexican Independence, Day Parade. Now, as police
department, we want people to enjoy their culture, we want
them to celebrate their Heritage and their successes, but
we want them to do that safely.
If we do not follow the rule of law, then it turns into a
riot. When it comes to technology, what we try to do is get
out of head of situations through information, we do get a
lot of Intel and a lot of that comes out of my current
Bureau right now.
and,
And we try to get to those locations before they get to
those locations.
Now, when it comes to disorderly conduct things of that
nature, we know that those are small arrest that we're not
going to be able to hold someone for but the impoundment of
vehicles.
in the
And then having the courts follow up with these situations,
would be very helpful to us, again, the police can't do it
alone in the end. Like you said, we are short-handed and
trying to fight these battles is tough. So what we do is a
police department is that we try to pick the toughest
battles that we can and try to stop the violence. This is
why all this was ever recovered more guns this year in over
the past three years than New York and, and La combined.
So, officers attacked with a lot of work. So, what we need
is someone else to step up. We need our community step up.
This is why we need to have help in getting some of these
things done because the loudest voices are usually the
voices when we step in and we do something and gets out of
control that the police are wrong.
We?
Weenie.
We need.
We need to take a deeper, look at that, we need to take a
deeper dive and having our offices judge fairly when their
lives on the line and when they're trying to protect this
city.
Thank.
I think you're all the woman.
It sure wants to recognize all to my Gardener and 45th
Ward, as well as vice-chair Robinson of the 4th Ward on,
who's joining us electronically. And so before we move to
the next Committee Member B Robinson, do you have any
questions or comments?
Okay, everything you hear me. Yeah, we can hear you buy
share. Thank you very much. I just wanted to really thank
Commander Waller again for a his work. We all know that he
has a had a long career with CPD. Put aside his retirement
out to come back to assist us. Also, I want to give a
credit to the mayor of for bringing a someone that has gone
through the full ranks of Chicago, Police Department. And I
think that that is extremely important for us to be able to
make sure that our officers feel that they are supported
because we actually absolutely need them. And we need
someone that understands.
all I
All of the neighborhoods, the good, the bad, the ugly, and
I believe that we have that, and chief Snelling and
Snelling. I appreciate all the hard work and I look forward
to working alongside of you on as a vice chair of this
committee, as well as your officers, to make sure that we
get our city back to a place that everyone feels safe, no
matter what neighborhood, you're living in. And so
chairman, thank you for the opportunity. You will have a
moment
Thank.
Thank you.
Thank You by Cher and also long. Did you recognize is
alderwoman clay from the 46th Ward, who's appearing,
electronically, as well. All the 12 Taylor followed by
Alderman Knutson, and I hope I'm pronouncing that right as
well. Although I'm in Taylor.
Is.
Is so much I can say about the two men who are sitting
here. I met superintendent Waller when my son was shot some
years ago and I didn't have the best conversation with
superintendent Waller. As a matter of fact, I truly cussed
him out because I couldn't understand. I know not
surprised. All right, I couldn't understand how in the
community I lived in Howell bad store. Owner was allow for
something to happen and when his camera has been work and
am a
Google.
Who was upset with the?
Who was upset with the talk to him? I was just respect it
and so superintendent, I want to thank you because it was
not easy and actually, out of that became an ordinance that
it was the devil. Terry impact ordinance, that made store
owners accountable for the lettering that goes on and
around their stores. And so I've appreciated your
leadership, then you should have been fired. Let me say or
retired or whatever they're called it. That was the biggest
mistake we ever made and now we're trying to figure out how
to come back from that and so I haven't been happy with the
changing my commanders and we had that conversation. You
said, trust me it's so I've trusted you to have that
because I'm in the 2nd 3rd the 7th of the night police
districts. And every time I feel like my community is
moving forward, I got to come here to change it. So I want
us to have a real conversation about that. I'm sad to see
you go cuz I feel like this is the first time
That they are some accountability in the public is. So
thank you for saying I'm sorry I made a mistake on this
thing's with the socks cuz who often that's all people
want, is an apology and I've never seen us who wanted to
stand up and say, I made the call I was wrong, and so thank
you for that. So, if you never get credit for what know
that folks in our community, appreciate that.
I didn't.
I didn't like that you would leave me but look what I got
and so superintendent, Snelling lives in the 2011. Just say
that I keep telling you all good things becoming for $20
pay. He was a commander then the deputy commander and now
you're going to be the superintendent and I'm really
excited about that. We got a lot of work to do and it's
even more.
Of a step in the right direction because the community
councils actually picked you and to all things, you said it
earlier, the police and the community are not working
together and that's how we got here. I want people to
remember, we George Blackmore, he said it right, we're
paying billions of dollars for bad. Police actions. We have
like we can't walk away from that, we cannot turn our backs
on that. The reason why black folks don't want to be the
police is because we don't trust you we don't have those
relationships. And so I hope this is us moving forward and
the right direction. I know it is I just want to say
through the crisis that I'm I'm having an n in my
community. I've been able to call Superintendent Snelling.
I know you're done at your name right now, but I've been
able to call him and he's helped out. Even on this time off
to come to say, what do you need over here? How do I
support you? How do I support the community? So, I
appreciate that.
All the way.
Old woman to buy us. Ask the question that I was going to
ask, but I'm going to bring it a step further, how we going
to continue to work together with the community, to make
sure that folks that look like me. He actually wants to be
the police because when we are looking at the numbers they
are not offices. That look like us. And young people who
once said, I want to be the police, don't feel that way
now. And so how we going to to fix those relationships, I
want to hear that from last commission meeting. I have
someone stand up and they asked the exact same question and
what I did was kind of throw it back to him. And what I
said to him is if you can pull some people together because
oftentimes, we go in this uniform and the uniform alone.
People from want to have a conversation with me. But if
that conversation starts with you and that's conversation,
start with trusted members of the community and then we'll
pull, then we're willing to go there.
and,
And talk.
And talk to everybody, dispel the myths, the rumors about
what it takes to be a police officer. And then they get
everybody understand that we can't stand on the sidelines.
I mean, you know, I'm a person who grew up in Englewood, I
couldn't stand on the sidelines, Hope for Change and then
complain about it. And not be a part of the solution is a
great job and I'll tell you right now, everything I have is
because of it. But the job is only going to be as good as
you are as a human being
that's the by
That's the bottom line. So I
That's the bottom line. So when people said don't trust the
police and I don't want to be a part of it. You tell me
where you can go in this country and not find problems. If
we're going to get ahead of this if we're going to get
better.
then
and
Then we have to be a part of the solution. So I've been
just like I told you I wanted you you give me a group of
people who are interested in being a police and I'll get
you a group of people in myself will go there and convince.
So that comes with and so I always tell people I live in a
world where half of my ward love the police the other half
can't stand job and it's because we don't we don't have
officer friendly. We don't see officers walk into beats in
our community. We don't see him get out there cuz we don't
even really stay. I'm in bikes anymore. And so those are
the things that I want us to get back to but I also
understand that we can't police are way out of out of the
things that are happening young people wouldn't be downtown
if they have things in their community. So I want us to
remember that some of these things are systematic and it's
not on the police we depend on you all for a lot and I
didn't realize that until I got this job. So when my my kid
won't go to school. I'm calling the police and I'm getting
into an argument with somebody the first thing people do
and so the mental health of you all and we talked about
that is very important to me because I don't I've been to a
couple of crime scenes and not because I wanted to just
because I happen to be in the air.
It's old.
And sold that is that is disheartening for me, but there has
to be some balance and that job is well, I don't like that
y'all on these 48-hour 98 hour, whatever they are, our
shift doesn't make sense. To me is not healthy for anybody,
especially not people that we expect to Serve and Protect
and in this role would, I would like to see is you all
bring back caps and you've kept. It actually worked in a
bunch of communities and I don't know what was the the just
for not doing it. Because what we got right now in caps, is
the eldest, blaming the young people, and then we talked to
the young people, they like. That ain't nothing. That's
somebody else's soul. I want us to have conversation about
how we go back to real community policing, and I want to
say it was superintendent. Weiler who did Captain ucaps
together and so you got to give them that. Make sure you
stay close to him. It's good to have somebody. In this face
who was born and bred here too. Often we have people, we
put in positions of power who don't get our community.
Looks like a.
Looks like it's is it's a good thing that you from
Englewood cuz Englewood sadly to say is always the poster
child was wrong and after that I'm just not even stuff
that's in Inglewood, they just say Inglewood. And so what I
want to see is us have some real community, and I like that
you have been at these commission meetings. Is there really
good for us to see somebody to say regardless of what
they're saying? I'm I'm going to the meetings, I want to
speak up. I'm going to talk and so I want to see us. Talk
about accountability and a different cow.
Wayback.
Play best with us.
Play best with us cuz we we know who the shooters are we?
We know who selling and picture will. And if you old enough
to know what that mean, good, we know who are doing
everything in our communities, but because we feel like the
we are not listen to for the police are not showing up
that. There's a problem. Can you tell us? Other than the
things you said about police officers, you all and not
being just a billboard kind of what is the plan to bring in
offices of color and just feel some of those vacancies. So
we we have to reach out to those places where we know we
can recruit now their limitations again, like I told you
before for the police department because there are times
that we go in and maybe people just don't want to talk to
her, but we need to reach out to clergy members Community
leaders activist.
And even Outreach. I mean, I was just said an event the
other night, with Outreach with people who were the former
convicted felons.
And they are reaching out to the young people right now and
trying to talk to them about. Not going down the same road.
They went down.
When?
When we bring all of this together and if we can collaborate
as a group and then just kind of put our differences aside,
we never conversation because until we start listening to
each other, when I going to get anywhere, if, if I draw a
line in the sand and I don't want to talk to the community,
this is what we're going to get. But if the community
draws, the Line in the Sand and they don't want to talk to
me, that's another problem.
it's so,
It's some.
It's some point. We can agree to disagree on some things,
but we need to be looking at the bigger issues, and the
bigger issues is, how do we move these communities forward?
What do we do for young people? What's in the shoot for
them in the future? What job prospects do? They have? When
I have a young kid who can barely afford to go to a City
College, what can I offer him? Is going to keep him on the
straight and narrow and end up with a career like this one?
There are plenty of young people out there who would love
to do this job, but we got a lot of naysayers will tell
them that this is a bad thing to do. What we need, our
community leaders team up with us, talk to these young
people and explain. That is never a bad thing to go into a
profession. That's going to lead you and your family in a
different direction. So I'm looking forward to meeting with
any and everybody was willing to step up and help us with
the recruitment process.
And that's why.
And that's recruitment of everybody. But we know the number
of, of African-American police officers are doing them and
it's because they're a lot of doors that need to be open in
the, a lot of myths that need to be broken down. So, I'm
telling you all this woman, wouldn't whenever you're ready,
I'm ready to go. Tell my last thing is about the gist.
We're still, we're seeing young people who are 13, 14, 15
carjacking, and it seems like they are locked up, and we
let him go, I don't wear what happened to the programs
where they will go to the farm and learn how to farm. What
happened to all of these programs that used to be in place.
So before, when they got a team, they just locked up for
the rest of their lives. I don't see that. I think it was a
bad idea for us, not to turn away the gist. And I want to
figure out how we get back to that, because some young
people are being sent off by Valdosta.
I'll just be honest with
I'll just be honest, what's all this? What it is and so how
we helping those young people to get Rehabilitation and
make sure that when they're 18 we not locking them up for
the rest of their lives. I don't ask that when vfss talk
about turning, we weren't having anything else to do with
the gist, but I haven't seen a program or plan to what we
do with young people to rehabilitate them. Tell you this
right now, I was looking at a program and a plan for young
people, especially those who were involved in violent acts
carjacking because carjackings and robberies could
eventually lead to a higher level of crime shooting or
maybe even the homicide
what I would tell you is this, there are plenty of people
from outside of those communities, who don't understand
those kids, who will tell you that it's expensive to send
the kid off to a program where he's working on a farm or
because
but,
But they don't offer up an alternative solution.
and,
And these are people who don't understand these kids, they
don't understand the neighborhood or the violent activity
that they're engaging in. Now, what I will say is that to
fill your bar Community to step in
And tell.
And tell these people and until you understand our
community and the people in those communities don't pass
judgment on what we need these children to do to get
better.
See if you don't live in that Community. If you don't
understand those community members, if you don't understand
what those children are dealing with, you have no clue what
they need.
But this is where now we need members in those communities
to step up.
Their resources everywhere they help. We need to pull those
resources in and we need to work as a group work as a team
get together and come up with those programs that are going
to help these kids because I'm telling you right now. The
problem is this we talked about reentry programs and all
that's great. That's great. For those with already.
Hey.
Had problems and made those mistakes. What we want to do.
Is.
Is we want to stop them from making those mistakes. So we
don't need those re-entry programs. So if we come up with
something that's actually going to help these kids to keep
them out of trouble, to stop them from going downtown to
jumping up and down on cars.
Then we as a community, our communities need to step up and
help us with these programs and I'm willing to work with
anybody to do that.
and,
And you tell me, thank you, super attendant. Read your
other woman. Tell her before we go to the alderman in the
43rd. Ward woman, clay has requested to appear by remote
means as well. I'll presume to Route 59. Going to get a
motion to allow the woman. Play the fear by remote means,
so moved by Alderman Hall. All those in favor. Can I get
out? And I think about Bryce and I and all of those opposed
Say Goodbye by saying, no and opinion every chair. I've
have it all the woman clay will be added to. The role is
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I'm home. Thank you very much chair and just a follow. All
the person Taylor pointing out that all good things come
from 20, I want to point out that Chief Snelling attended
to Paul. So I'm happy you, at least say that some great
people learning 43, but she's Snelling this. This meeting
is a, is a long time coming, and I can say on behalf of my
ward, the 43rd Ward that we've been looking forward to your
confirmation. I've heard great things about your leadership
style from friends and past colleagues of yours and
superintendent Waller. We thank you for your service,
especially as this transition comes during such a
challenging, Public Safety moment in Chicago.
Ice.
I strongly.
I strongly believe it's a moment we can fix to the right
holistic approach.
Info.
In 43rd Ward. We've been facilitating talks between our
community and our commanders. Michael. Michael bars and
Amin jasani on community policing. This is a bit of a broad
question, but community policing means many different
things to different people. And I'm wondering, what does a
strategy of community policing in Chicago? Mean, do you
remember the policing, to me, means all police officers are
Community police offices. We could have a system where we
have a limited number of officers, engaging and community
policing. And other officers were not community, policing
means that we know our communities. We're engaging with our
communities with listening to our communities, and we're
listening to the problems of those communities. But bigger
than all of that is, that will respond to talk communities,
and we need each and every officer to step up and do that.
It can't just be community policing. So there is a
centralized community policing effort, but we need
that's,
that she
That share their fur.
That shared effort amongst every police officer in this
city.
Okay, thank you. And you do on that note, as it plays in
community policing plays in the Staffing, I want to ask a
little bit about beat integrity and the pathway there. You
know, the 18th District that serves part of part of my ward
has had the largest loss of sworn members of any District
in Chicago with a 33% reduction over just last in the past
two years, as we share district downtown, the 43rd Ward.
Therefore, struggles to have meaningful Patrol of any kind.
So, I'm wondering what I could roll deployment of officers
looks like in your mind and if you anticipate a road back
to beat Integrity, Integrity is is extremely important.
There's nothing like knowing the officer on your beat and
that officer knowing the members of that community and
especially when they are, you know, that there's someone
that you can call someone who understands you and
understands the issues and we do need to get back to beat
Integrity. What we need to do first, though is
Assess our specialized units. We need to just take a good
look at that and see where we can actually get more
officers back on the beach and it's not just there, but
it's also our officers who were in admin positions also. So
once that assessment is done, we can actually the
absolutely work toward that goal. But at the same time, we
do have
Go.
Go all out and recruit.
Go all out in recruiting to try to get more officers on the
job to fill some of these vacancies great. So, it's a
balance between a recruitment really looking at where
officers are and on that note, depending on what the
assessment says. Do you support the centralizing officers
from downtown into the neighborhoods? I'm sorry that last
part. Do you support decentralizing officers from downtown
and into the neighborhoods? When we say decentralizing?
Here's a here's
You're?
Here's what what I say about that?
Ever.
Every part of this city, every single part of the city has
to be protected, right? We have to make sure that there's
protection for every one we would have to see what our
issues are at downtown. What? We're protecting. What those
officers are protecting.
Any.
Anytime we can trim the fat somewhere where we feel like
that, did we have an abundance of officers here that we can
move to a place where they're going to be needed more. We
will make those decisions, but I'll make an assessment of
what's going on downtown before I use a word like
decentralizing. I just want to make sure that we understand
it. Sometimes we have officers or on, deployments were down
there, and they're not necessarily assigned yet. So we
would, I would have to take a good long. Look at that, but
I am in favor of putting officers where they're going to
best serve and just to be clear to my downtown colleagues.
Don't get angry at me. I'm not talking about moving people
within the downtown District 4 officers within the.
Honda.
Time District in the neighborhoods more. So there's a
centralized office downtown that dispatches out to the
whole city. Those things I'm going to assess those
officers. I'm going to assess just to make sure that we're
getting the best utilization of those units. Great. Thank
you. Okay, I wanted to talk a little bit about guns. I know
from our officers that if he does a lot of work,
confiscating guns, and it's it's pretty incredible amount
guns that are confiscated in the city of Chicago every
year. There's so much work to be done to get guns off of
our streets. And I'm just wondering in your eyes, what more
can we do to approach this terrifying number of guns that
are in our city every day?
we, we
We, we really need to look at laws surrounding guns and
especially repeat offenders. That is a big issue. You know,
we, we have people who have been arrested on multiple
occasions carrying guns in. A lot of people are shooters,
The gun's coming in and out. We I would say our offices.
Dude, that such an excellent job of recovering guns. I mean
when you think about the sheer number of guns, 13,000 guns
last year that were recovered and then again, it's like I
said, that's that's more than two major cities have
recovered combined.
All.
All officers work with our federal partners.
And we have recovered guns in that way. We've also run
crime guns and found those guns. Be connected to more
violent crimes. We actually need to start looking at
tougher gun laws when it comes to our repeat, offenders or
people who are carrying guns illegally. Right. I don't
think that does anything to hurt the first amendment. I
think it does more to protect our city.
Yeah, thank you. And you know, when last year's budget
season we had a bit of a discussion with CPD just on
clogging where we know the Beats, we know the guns are
coming in from right. Cuz we have this reality here, where
will always Border Indiana and their gun laws are quite
different from us so you know, good luck, the brainstorm
and really push that conversation. And anyway, I said one
more question and it's all about the corresponder model to
mental health calls and I'm wondering if I can get
Your take on the current.
Your take on the current co-respondent, responder model, you
know how I view it. Assuming that if we freed up officers
by Hat by halting the co-responder model, there be more
time for officers to focus on their safety portfolio. There
two parts today. It would free up offices. Because if we,
we started this conversation by talking about how much
officers attached with, and we're asking officers to do too
much and we're asking an officer to respond to a person
who's in crisis, who's suffering from a mental health
issue, and there is no crime there. Then we're off, we're
actually asking that officer to get to the scene and
basically diagnosed this individual and then try to figure
out how to deal with with this person. If we are people who
are trained
The.
Did the?
The deal with nonviolent non-criminal crisis situations. It
takes our offices away from having it. Try to figure that
out without the the complete training to do it.
Andy.
And it also frees up our officers to focus on more violent
crimes or crime patterns. So I'm all for the corresponding
model, anytime that we can have someone free of our
officers from jobs that are not criminal nature. I'm all
for it, and
Green.
Three more, I think that's, you know, conversation this
Council will be having, but just the thought of you're
dealing with mental health calls quite separately, I view
as an all-around positive. So with that, you're not taking
up a lot of time. I just want to applaud me or Johnson on
this choice. I think they itchy really listen to what
people were looking for and found balance in Eugene.
Snelling and you know, I'll be supporting it, you probably
see no surprise there for my words, but will love to invite
you to the 43rd Ward sometime in the next year, to
introduce you to the community, I'll be happy to be. I want
to live in a first-round to 10 minutes. I do want to give
everyone an opportunity to answer questions or make
comments, but we'll do the first round, 10 minutes, moving
to non-committee and then come back to our committee
members to finish off a mole in Munhall followed by
Alderman, Urban yes. Indeed. On the first of all, say, to
superintendent wallet. Thank you. When I first got
This.
This position. It was a lot of problems and you coach me
through and you were available and a suspension of who you
are Commander tape commanded Branch, I'll command the
courts and even come into watching all have stories about
how you impacted their lives in the least common
denominators with you Chief Snelling that they all said the
same thing of how you all work together. Laugh together
train together. So to that end, I want to say thank you for
being a good example to those who are serving at the, at
the entry.
Find a lot of problems in.
Find a lot of problems in our city.
Find a lot of problems in our city and so, I don't
necessarily have any questions because all of the questions
are pretty much the same, but I just want to encourage you
to keep your faith work hard and treat people, right? Thank
you. Thank you. I got him at all ottoman Irving, followed
by all the women clay Alderman. Irving's, famous German.
I'll take his name again. Graduation song appointment to
Snelling also. Thank you. Do a Supercenter waller or for
his work in the community and for his long career with the
Department again, I think the city owes you a debt of
gratitude for coming out of retirement to jump back into
the spray and we appreciate the work at you, you have done
just some
it just
Interesting, just some thoughts that I had that I want to
get your thoughts on. I don't think we've changed district
line to beat lines and I think forty or fifty years with
something to talk about with changing patterns of crime and
change in geography, changing demographics, what is your
position on looking at beeline and district lines for
possible realignment? You know, I've been asked that
question about 45 times now over the the past couple of
weeks and it's a great question, it's something that we can
look at that. I would, I would say that it's going to take
a deep deep deep assessment.
To determine.
To determine if we're going to remap boundaries the way
that we should do that. I know that some districts are much
larger than other districts and depending on the number of
officers in that District, they could take them up there.
Pretty good time to get from one end of the district to
another into the district to handle calls. So, that's
something that we can look at. But we would actually have
to be really, really strategic and getting that done. But
it did say it's worth of luck. Absolutely.
My second question is dealing around resources and our
scheduling. So for example, if we were to take the fire
department and put them on 8-hour shifts, it would require
a lot more people to make that happen. The police
department is shrinking and numbers based on a higher level
of vacancies, in the attrition rate versus the recruitment
rate as anybody, or have you put any thought to changing
how we schedule. The office has the potential to have the
Need For Less physical bodies to be in the department but
still achieve the same level of service for the city.
Absolutely. We we we've been, we've been bouncing that
around. We've been bouncing schedules around the number of
hours in the day. The number days a week that the officers
Work.
Working. But we want to make sure that we come up with the
right solution because what we want to make sure it does
it. Satisfies the Manpower needs is satisfies the district
and the needs of the neighborhood but it also satisfies.
The wellness aspect of it for the officer when we don't
want to do is create a schedule that's going to impact an
officer. Because the longer you're at work, though, the
more hours you're at work and is that's why we have to have
that right equation.
but,
Petit kicks in, right? If I haven't eaten properly or
haven't hydrated properly. Those are all factors that when
an officer is at the end of the shift and determine how
that officer responds in a volatile situation. So you just
want to make sure that we have that right balance. So, it
is something that we're looking at and we're probably going
to have to get there pretty soon. You know, being it went
down, $1,500, at this point, I'm not advocating it offices,
work. The same shift as firefighters working working 24
hours, although I would like that but people like the two
days off but that's a different conversation, but I, but I
do think that we're going to have to make some adjustments
in order. I think 24 office of Wellness as well. As the
fact that we we have you, no less people but still have a
great demand for or for service.
My neck.
My next question.
My next question is going to deal around supervision which
is something that's been talked about in the consent decree
in there and Report. How do you plan on beefing up? The
ranks of Supervisors has many instances and when we see
videos in the light,
You.
You're very rarely, see a white shirt and a lot of these
different issues, but you'll see 12:15 blue shirts, but you
really don't see the white shirts that are out there in the
supervisory aspects. So, what is your plan to help? You
know, bring that span of control to a reasonable number? So
that officers are adequately supervise and monitor and
giving, and giving your sisters if they're needed. So, part
of the consent, decrees you mentioned requires that span of
control, and we want to report it up to promote more
sergeants. As a matter of fact, we're planning another
exam, next spring in, currently, right now, we're trying to
keep up with the trishan, but at this point right now, what
we need to do more than anyting is from the top down, there
has to be accountability from our district Commanders,
Gap.
Captain's, do I loot if?
Captain's to our lieutenants, to make sure that any
available supervisor out. There is on scene and making sure
that they're out there back in these offices up. So that's
what we can do in the meantime or, right? But futurewise,
we are looking to expand and bring more sergeants into the
fold.
This is a question that dates back to probably 2015 and
there was a conversation of the fact that for the police
departments just stopped responding to certain calls. Have
you have you had any thought about? Cuz it's my
understanding is that we pretty much respond to everything.
Has there been any thought about starting calls that you
guys should just not be responded to? This should be passed
on to someone else would another entity so that officers
are able to be in there be longer cuz the other side of
that is if we want to Be an Effective community policing
organization that you got to have unassigned time to do
community policing work. You can't bounce from call to call
to call the car, and expect to have a community policing
Pulaski. So, how do you, how do you plan to balance? Like,
I live in the 11th District, and there's a rarity that I
just see officers just out there movie.
Did the?
Did doing stuff. So how do you balance that with the
ability to do community policing? If you have zero time
available to do community policing, what that and it goes
back to what I talked about earlier with the corresponding
model. Did the issue with a 911 call coming in for an
officer's? We don't normally get to pick and choose what
those calls are that. We're going to write because you're
crisis, might not be my crisis, so is an officer, we have
to show up, and we do show up to those calls were often in
the backlog, especially in a, in a high-volume district
Ward, like yours. But the corresponding could help us out a
lot with getting us away from those those non-criminal
calls. If we could avoid some of the non-criminal calls
that we show up to it,
really, how
really helpful.
Really helpful to us. And we need to take a deeper dive
into that. Not just mental health, Beyond housed, but
they're all the calls that could probably be handled under.
The corresponding model, that could free us up as police
officers, but I know, I know your ward all too well, and we
know the challenges that you face over there and then we'll
really have to work to make.
Pretty weak.
Where did we get the Manpower? That's necessary. But that's,
that's all that I have missed you. And I do want, you know,
wish you the best on this. I know you have a difficult job
to be all things to all people and we, you know, lay all of
all of the challenges of the city at your, at your feet and
say, solve them, I think that members of his body want you
to be successful because your success is our success in the
city success. So if there's anything that we can do from a
policy standpoint to help in making the job, did you all do
better? But please don't hesitate to reach out to us
because again, we want you to be successful in what you're
doing because you know, you're at your success is our
success in getting to know, you didn't work on the west
side and everybody seem like you or south side or, or
whatever. We, we will, what
Do not.
Do not play that game. You get crust, you know, do you say
you could crust in the middle? But nonetheless, only thing
that I ask is that the West Side what side is challenge.
And the west side is different. I've seen plenty of people
come from all over the city to the west side of Chicago and
just like, losing all sense because it's just a different,
it's just different. And what I, what I would like to say
is that it's important that people understand the
challenges that the community faces and enforcement is some
As necessary, but love is also.
As necessary. But love is also sometimes necessary as well,
and we just want to make sure that people understand that
while we are challenged. You know, we are, we are worth the
investment on the department as far as trying to reduce
crime on the westside of Chicago. Think his champion. Thank
you.
It was.
It is my name. OK, Google dial 211, leave all the women
clay. Okay well thank you so much for giving me the
opportunity to talk to him. And I just wanted to say thank
you to keep smelling and superintendent while are for all
the hard work that you have put into this role. As a
product of Chicago, I'm extremely excited to see men from
our community, stepping up to the plate in this role of
community, safety. Right. Especially as a young person and
having an amazing relationship with my beat officer in my
ward, I can tell you how impactful it is been in my
longevity and in my future, it just have amazing
representation. Ncpd actually get out of their vehicles and
come and communicate and interact with our young people. So
that is my first goal.
Cheap.
Cheap is to make sure that we are getting our police
officers out into our community, actually out of out of
uniform and coming, and playing a little basketball with us
coming and giving back to the community building, some
really comprehensive relationship so that we can show them
that there is a path forward to protecting our city. I also
wanted to talk about a police mental help because you
brought that up. I'm and I think that is an aspect that a
lot of people are just unaware of. You all are human, you
have families and you have lives outside of that badge in.
So we also need to be aware of the challenges that all of
us face we went through Culver together. We are still in
the thick of rebuilding our city and a lot of ways. And so
I just wanted to ask, what do you, what do you plan to do
to? Really make sure that our officers have the support for
their own mental health to do their job to the fullest
capacity?
Well, thank you for that question. All them in the first
thing I'll tell you is you you're spot-on with something
that you said in the end, it's something that I think it's
messed in the public eye. I think it's messed in the media
offices are painted is robots. Built on an assembly line
is, though, they don't have feelings, they don't have
family members, they don't have children, you know, they
don't have wives husbands mothers, you know.
Sick, family member.
Sick, family members.
There.
There's a is a widow of a police officer that I've known
for years and that I work with sitting amongst those right
here in Jennifer Loudon. Thank you for being here. The
Widow of thought, soda, Burg who is killed in the line of
duty
We?
We don't spend enough time, getting to know our officers.
We want officers to do a lot of things.
but,
We can often stop and take a moment and think of how we're
dealing with our officers. Now, I'm not saying that we do
or we've done everything right there. A lot of things that
we can do better as a department. However, these are human
beings, these are men and women. I see them every day, I
saw them through civil, unrest, I saw what they dealt with.
As.
I saw the names that they were called the yelling and
screaming, I saw the 16 hours, they worked dehydrated
hungry.
Slow.
Sleep deprived.
Make.
They kept their cools, they responded the way the city
needed them to respond to stop the city as a whole from
burning down.
They?
They were taunted.
Any.
And then they went home.
and,
And they got up and came back to work. The next day to do
it all over again.
again, there a lot of things that we can do better as a
police department but
We have to support those people who are standing between
those who will do you harm, because they're the only ones
who stopping it.
I know.
I know a lot of people say that you know what, we don't
need the police. Someone I actually heard someone say the
other day at a meeting.
I'm a.
Imagine the world without the police.
I'll
I would like to be a part of that world, but in order to
imagine a world without police, I have to imagine a world
without murder.
with a
Without robbery without shootings. I have to imagine a
world without sex trafficking without kidnapping without
criminal sexual assault. Child abuse
Child molestation. These are all things that people don't
necessarily want to hear. I want to talk about
Peep.
people who can't even walk out on their front porch because
There.
they're prisoners in their own home.
I'll
Are police officers are out there to help people.
What?
Would it help protect people from these things?
I'm not asking anybody to love our officers cuz that was
another question that came up. Someone said, it's
ridiculous to say that to love an officer with that shows
you what that person's belief is about another human being
but I don't need you to love the offices. I don't even we
don't even expect you to like them, but I'm going to love
and I'm going to love them because they work for me. How
can I tell a human being to go out and treat people with
respect? If I don't respect them, how do I tell this human
being to go out and love people? If I don't show them love
Be.
these.
these officers will put their lives on the line every day
and I've seen the work that they've done and those who have
not
Should.
Shouldn't judge him. But what I will say is this, if you're
willing to find out what an officer does, if you're willing
to know who an officer is, please come in and meet at
office.
I'm willing to have a forum where we can have that
conversation and talk about what these Hang-Ups are.
But I
but until we get together as a community and work, police
Community Partners,
and,
In lockstep with one another.
We?
We're not going to move forward.
but,
But if we work together as a team, I guarantee you, we can
move forward. I don't expect everybody to get on the boat,
but those were willing to get on. It will be steered in the
right direction.
I hope that answers your question of you for bringing that
to the Forefront that he the humanity that you all are
humans in our office is extremely proud, to be partnering
with local businesses to do coffee with cops so that we can
get to know you. We need to understand the humans behind
the badge and I understand why you do this hard work on
behalf of the entire city so thank you for that one super
specific question. As my ward has so many amazing events
that happened throughout the entire year.
What?
What I've heard from.
What I've heard from our local officers is that they feel
extremely stressed when it comes to special events, they
feel like they are taking off of the beaten path from some
of the real, some of the real police and then he's to
happen in our communities because they are transferred to
special events like Cubs games and or Festival. So I just
wanted to know how can we balance this? So that we are not
taking away from the safety of our communities at the
expense of some of these bigger larger events. How do we
keep our community safe? If we have to send police officers
to other parts of the city to also men be special event all
the men. Usually those are our tactical officers, will get
detailed to those events. However, what what I'll be
looking to do is give District Commanders.
Owatonna.
Autonomy and how they're scheduling officers, and based on
their needs. So, when we know that, we may have some
officers detailed out for other events, those District
commanders will be able to make decisions as to who they
call back to work and who they offer opportunities to work
overtime for in those districts. So I'm those District
commanders will have that all time to be moving forward.
Thank you again, Cameron for the opportunity to speak. I
cannot wait for your confirmation cheese.
Thank.
Thank you. Think you're all the woman? I'm out of womanly,
all about them, as soon as I do. Thank you, both for your
service. Want to congratulate the mayor in the police
commission on a wonderful selection. I think it's so
important that the person filling this position come from
the ranks of the Chicago Police Department. I think many of
us believe that for a long time and it's glad to see that
comes to fruition and appreciate the the initial meeting
that you and I had sort of impromptu in just and everything
that I've read and heard about you from officers in the,
the media. Like I was really struck by a comment that you
made it. One of the first police commission meetings at
send a
Pretended, I think your fault when something like, you
know, it's going to take all of us. We can't do this alone
and I couldn't agree with you more know that I and the rest
of this Council stand. Ready to support you on that. I know
you're limited time and I have a few questions. I don't
want and I won't be redundant and ask any other questions
that my colleagues have someone's already asked about
filling police vacancies, but we haven't really talked
about retention. What do we do to slow the flow of people
wanting to retire because of what's happening on the job
and how difficult it is a retention in. And this is an
important over the past.
Three year.
3 years after the riots covet, we lost a lot of officers.
During that time we had a lot of a lot of officers who just
simply did not feel supported. I believe those numbers have
slowed, they definitely slowed since superintendent while I
got here, the key is for retention is to give office has a
purpose. So did they they feel respected. They filled it.
The job that they're doing is appreciated is very important
to understand it. When we have an officer who has the
opportunity to leave twenty years on the job or more
If they.
if those offices feel that day,
Are tired of actually doing the work for their lives on the
line and not feeling appreciated. As a result of it, those
offices will
don't put the
they'll put their papers in and decide to leave the job.
Right now, the key is to
How about offices Bill? Not only appreciate it, but give
them the tools and the opportunity to feel well, well to
feel more fit to know that we actually care about them as
human beings as people not just as police officers, but
just as human beings, and that's almost officers one,
that's one thing.
We?
when you look at what the Chicago Police Department office,
and,
And what other agencies offer. I think the Chicago Police
Department has some of the best benefits and salaries,
cross the country. But that's not all these police officers
one. So offering up a bonus and things of that nature,
doesn't make a difference if the officers don't feel
appreciated. So the key here is to create a better
environment for police officers to work in and I believe
that we can retain more offices by doing that. Thank you
for that. Cuz you know, I represent the 11th ward which is
now the first Asian majority word in the city of Chicago,
I'm in.
I'm in a good portion of my residents, are non-native
English speakers, and not just study, Cantonese or Mandarin
Spanish as well language. Capability is, so vitally
important in my community, I'm always out, you're
advocating for it. I want to tell you that, you know, the
commanders that we've had have made great efforts to make
sure that we have qualified i-language sees me Cantonese or
Mandarin speakers are working and beat 914 which is mostly
Chinatown and it does make so much of a difference,
understanding that a lot of the, the folks that immigrated
to the United States from China. They have a journal
mistrust of government to begin with, and it's very
difficult to get them to report crimes. Let alone press
charges on others. And I know that that's not a problem.
That is limited to my community. I think reporting crimes
and pressing charges. If something. You know what? I feel
like I hear more.
More.
More than a.
More that is, that Citywide Citywide issue but more
specifically around the language qualified police officers
and other languages. To what efforts are you going to put
forward to make sure that we are getting officers
recruiting officers and training officers who reflect the
communities that they serve in what I would ask ask you.
Because, and this is where we talk about Community as a
whole. This is where I
Reach out to you.
Reach out to you and ask. How could we recruit from your
community? What what would be the best way for us? As a
police department took to recruit from from your community.
Because what I will tell you is that we see more now but
we have a very small number of Asian police officer exactly
what we need to do. So I'm willing to work with you on that
effort cuz I can tell you right now, I'm not going to sit
here and tell you that I would know exactly how to recruit
within that Community, but, you know, that Community better
than I do and better than either the office. So I think if
we can sit down and just kind of talked about how we can
recruit there, and I think we could start something big
there about how we trained officers, who are not agents,
you speak other languages to because we do. We have we have
the officers that we have, and I think if there's ways for
us also to enhance their capabilities for those that are
interested, it doesn't always have to be an Asian face to
an Asian face, but someone can communicate with them. Makes
the biggest difference to the couple others that I have
here. Be 914
I do have.
I do have the largest.
I do have the largest highest incidence of robberies, you
know, that is and that's something that we continue to
face. You've seen it in the news with just recently three
women that attacked a man and stole his car and thanks to
the hard work. I think of our neighborhood, watch in the
relationship, we have with the Chicago Police Department to
arrest roommate. So thank you for that. So I don't think we
hear enough about the good work. That's actually going to
bring some of these crimes to solve them and bring people
to Justice.
And this.
And this is a beat that has to be cars already. Thought,
you know, I don't think this is necessarily an issue of we
need more attention in places, we already have an
additional car. I think, you know what I'm looking for is,
how, how do we work with the police to get more Community
involvement? We talk a lot. We talked a lot about community
policing, what the police are, the what you're going to be
asking with the police I'm looking for ways to bring people
together to help you part of that process. I go to just
about every caps meeting in the, in the Ninth District. And
we have the same people coming out all the time, so I can
leave been a police officer for a really long time. I've
only been at this job for about a year-and-a-half
definitely looking for suggestions or, you know, if you
could make a snap, your fingers and make something happen
with Community, what would you want to see from from us as
Elders in the community? I would I would really leave
because you
Teddy bear.
Very best in deep meetings. The same people usually show up.
and,
and we,
And we're not getting everybody. So the messages not
getting to everybody.
I'm
I will.
I would love to have our officers, go to a meeting that the
alderman put together, the alderman, reaches, you reach out
to your constituents. Those people that you hear from the
most, those people who aren't really visible. But those
people that we can reach out and touch right now, there's
an effort going on in that got Glenbrook sitting over
there, where we want to educate people on how to avoid
these things, how to recognize these things because it is,
is great to say that we we've captured these these armed
robbers, but at this point, they've already robbed. Someone
is prevention and whatever we can do to prevent, it would
be helpful. So we're willing to go to any meeting any Town
Hall, that you want to set up, just to have these
conversations on how to get people involved and we can talk
about safety prevention.
On Android.
I'm in reporting that would be real helpful. Absolutely I
know I have just 44 seconds. I will say thank you. No one's
asked about catalytic converters yet. But in 30 seconds,
how do we help a catalytic converter that we've all been
experiencing them? And they they are, I think increasingly
scary because people are armed and are coming and teams
they are armed. I would just tell people to be careful, not
to go out and confront yourself, but when we see something
call us immediately but we we have a bunch of programs in
place to work on this, but it's really hard to try to
follow every block of the city where these people are
traveling through to look for those converters. Thank you.
Thank you all the womanly.
all the
Alderman. Sposato followed by alderwoman Nugent.
Thank.
Thank you, chairman. I'll do my best to catch up. Catch us
up a little here. I won't use all the man who else is 9
Minutes. Hopefully, I leave 9 minutes for somebody else.
Cheap.
Chief. Before I start with you, I got to start with my man
over there. Fred Wyler ride him even friend about seven or
eight years now. I think we remain friends even it was
gone. We talked to me once in a while still just a little
story about Fred when I felt we were having some struggles
under the previous superintendent. After about a year, I
made a suggestion to the other mares safety guy about. I
said, how about we bring Fred wall around
and,
And he liked that, he loved the idea. And I talked to fret
about it because I'd let them know. I'll do it and he goes,
I'll do it for free. So I just want everybody to know that
now he was you want to do that. He said he was willing
willing to be a advisor to former superintendent for free.
So you got a great mentor over here, a very well-respected
rate individual. So, I hope you're getting paid for this,
but if I don't have any questions, I just have some time
and say I'm not going to go head over to admit. I do have
one question or maybe it's a comment but I talked to you
about her six or seven months ago at the funeral, I said I
hope you're putting in and you did and I'm happy. I'm happy
to see, you're here. You have my full support. The only
time, I'll probably be calling you to give you a call some
encouragement. I have a great staff behind in the Box
order. I bother him a lot, so I'll continue to bother him
and not bother you. And just give you a cause of
encouragement and everything. I think you're the right man
for the job, and I look forward to working.
There was one thing I was touched down a few times about a
few people I'm guessing you know about it and maybe you can
let us know where we stand with that. We heard a lot about
a couple times about the suicide and that's the guy that
shot at talk to Commander on. Melinda lanius. Are you
familiar with that or what? Which was and it helps them out
from committing suicide of it if you heard about that at
all? No I'm not. I'm not offline and will talk to you about
that. Maybe you could talk to Melinda about that.
I thought it.
I thought it was a big thing that was going on in the
apartment now to help office person from committing
suicide. But with Dan, I just want to say, I wish you the
best. I'm happy for. Don't know if I'm happy for you. I
don't know if I could be happy for anybody, but I'm happy
for the city and I look forward to working with you. I
appreciate it.
Thank you. Chairman first, I didn't want to take a minute
to thank our interim superintendent, mr. Waller, it's been
a real pleasure to work with you. And you you've been
outstanding and I I do believe there's some morale issues.
And I do believe the morale has has has increased
significantly since you took the helm in, and I believe
that continued under your leadership Chief. So I'm excited
to be with you today as well. I wanted to touch a minute on
the consent decree, as you will inherit that work now. And
in this new role or 5 years in and I don't say that as a
criticism quite frankly, most major metropolises under a
consent decree, take about, 10 to 11 years to come to
completion. But in this new role, are there areas of the
consent decree that you believe we need to prioritize.
First and foremost, I look at the document as a Northstar
with where we need to go in policing, but I'm
Of your thoughts on.
Of your thoughts on this.
Of your thoughts on the consent. Decree will be the two most
important things. Right there is training for officers
Community engagement out. A reason is in the reason, I put
it that way as we're putting officers into the community.
And what we put into that Community needs to be the best,
prepare the most well-trained officers possible.
The.
These are human beings who can often make mistakes and if
these human beings are not trained properly. If they don't
have the proper resources, then we as a department, we as
an organization or failing, those individuals, when we put
them in the community. Not only are we feeling those
individuals were also a failing. We're failing the
community. So we want to put the best possible officers
that we can out there. So, they have to be very well
trained and have the resources to do the job properly
supervision is, it is a major component in making sure that
our offices are staying.
On the right path when it comes.
On the right path when it comes to doing the job Community
engagement. And this is big and I love what I'm hearing
here today because I'm looking forward to working with
every single person in this room because again I've said it
a million times, we can't arrest our way out of this. We
shouldn't be trying to arrest our way out of the situation
we should be working together as a community everybody
involved because we all have a stake in this. We all live
in this city to get it together.
We?
We can only have an impact on crime. If we do those two
things, and that's why those things are very important to
me, with, with any consent decree. Now, what I will tell
you is, I know a lot of people think the consent decree is
Slow Rolling, but they're different levels of compliance.
So there are a lot of things that are in the works right
now that if just not meant full compliance check, but they
are being done. I actually think that's important that we
discuss in here. So, for
What?
What are?
For whatever reason, I probably read the consent decree
just as much as you guys are more. Each component of the
consent, decree has three levels, right? Partial
compliance, substantial old is Charlie. It's my hope that
you do under your leadership that we do a better job as a
city, educating the city about what our compliance looks
like. I believe there's roughly like 800 things that were
required to do.
In.
and,
In each of the eight, each one has three levels to his. It
is like 2400 boxes. We need to take the supervisor to staff
ratio is incredibly important to me. I think it's critical
that we fulfill that component of the consent decree,
right? So that you know it's not 15 people to one
supervisor that we have a better ratio and I think that
it's really important that our officers are reporting to
the same supervisor, so they understand what the
expectations are. How do you do you think that will be able
to move forward on that? And it will have to that sack.
That's part of the consent decree. So that we, we are
looking to add more sergeants. And that request will be
made this goes back to beat Integrity, right? Because we
have a sergeant that's has a fan of control.
I don't.
I don't know.
The ratio of 10/8 to 1 that it's more fair to that
supervisor to try to control that number of officers at
that time, as opposed to supervising, you know, double that
amount. It's a little unfair to that supervisor. So this is
why it's necessary to build upon that. Any more supervision
we have? You know, there's accountability for all.
Officers in.
Officers in that. So there's also mentorship training, be
honest that you know as appropriate and also when you
brought up the training 100% in agreement with you the
training components critical, I know we voted on some
funding for training. Just last week, I knew I'd said in
that hearing, I've taken the shoot don't shoot in the taser
ring and all of the things that it is an incredible
training program that gives you great perspective to what
your officers have to go through in a nanosecond. And I I
would encourage all of my colleagues to take that training
yet. I think it's it's important for us to have that
experience. Just one of those things that I want to bring
up and brought up your other colleagues that you guys are
doing all the things for all the people,
Oh, hell.
response, the day-to-day policing work, we're doing work
now with with new arrivals and
You.
You can only do so much. I guess, I'm, I'm curious if you
are already or are considering sitting down with more
Partners. Is it the joint terrorism task force, is that the
FBI is at the ATF State's Attorney us attorney, are we
having these bigger conversations with respect to how we're
responding too? Many of the things you brought up earlier
where there is trafficking drugs arrested and just things
are getting so big right now. I'm just curious. If the
that the web is getting bigger with who you guys need to
work with. So I'll tell you right now though, I'm the chief
of the Bureau of counterterrorism. So we worked
hand-in-hand with the joint terrorism task force. So jttf
is like, on speed dial. We also work with with the FBI, the
ATF Homeland Security. I mean, not good that DEA we we have
Task Force officers. So any time that we get threats as
matter fact I'll give you a prime example of just one
particular thing. The day of hate that was information that
we were sharing a back and forth through New York, any any
credible threats or just threats and general coming in that
was related to the day of hate. We we just worked
hand-in-hand and work like that with each other on that. So
it helped us out here a lot having information being able
to get out in front of it. So we have a great partnership
with our
Are.
Our federal partners and we're just going to continue to
build on that excited about you being with us today. I look
forward to supporting you you next week and I'm excited to
work with you think you mr. Chairman woman, are there any
other committee members
I'll
Okay, Alderman, mobile gentleman, good afternoon. I speak
to you guys regularly, so I just for the record I just put
it on record. Thank you.
Soon.
Soon to be superintendent.
Much as we talked with one thing. I've asked Bill to at
talk to you about Steve appetite on something in my in my
neighborhood, all for my communities. There is a direct
correlation between the decline in home ownership in the
rise in Renton.
Eight out of 10 incidents of violence drug selling, its
Chris tied, back to a rental situation. So with that said I
believe that success leaves Clues. So I looked and how
other municipalities handle that type of situation and I
found that they did this ordinances that exist where when a
owner of rental property investment property activities
brought to the attention.
If?
If they don't act or or help the community to help the
police, in any way, they can be held liable for the
activity at that property.
What are your thoughts on on something like that? Or would
you have an appetite Explorer incorporating that from a
community, into the police where that is a mechanism, we
use to curb violence in community, know, you're 100% right?
And I can tell you right now, we're already doing that and
I can tell you,
I,
I can name you one person who works in lockstep with us
right now. She'll probably kill me. I mentioned the name,
but I'm ready for that Marlene Hopkins. Like, when she
shows up, she is ready for business, and I can tell you
right now asset forfeiture and the captain, are they
working locks up together? And when we see these problems
locations, business is where we know there been actual
violence. We we move in immediately, and are there places
that we have issued citations? And they are places that we
shut down. Now, obviously, everybody needs to have the
opportunity to make her, take corrective action on their
properties. But in the meantime, we'll hold them
accountable, you know, until they make those Corrections.
And can we talk about this with your right? We're not going
to rest our way out of it, but I'm getting
the mindset that
Paula.
Policy policy choices of policy changes or just
introduction of new policy. On our side, should be in
lockstep with you guys are doing to make your jobs jobs
easier. I'm growing up in the city and the 70s and 80s
Champions change in the 90s and 2000, totally different,
you know, in the end as much as I respect the klees, I
actually do, you know, you know you're in my thoughts are
in my prayers every night because you did you put that like
I'm a lie and I think your handcuffs if your hands are tied
in certain respects, I am so whatever we can do as a, as a
legislative body to augment or to support what you guys can
do. Please let us know. Because, you know, outside of, you
know, people calling their mom. You got to the second call
when they need help. So with that said, chairman I have no
more questions but I I like to be the one to move to pass
for the appointment of a superintendent. Fix all of my Men
followed by
mark,
Martin.
Your mom.
I can't.
I came.
I can never forget my favorite Altima Altima Curtis first.
I would like to say to use superintendent, Wala, you has
been, you have been a gentleman and a scholar.
A man.
Many, many years.
You.
You don't have to go to Florida, you always welcome back
home. First of all Chief we we talked already, you know, my
concerns. I don't want to some of the things I do have
down. Want to talk about.
Probably is budget-related. So I'm going to wait and I'm
glad that you are going to be a part of our budget. So I'm
going to wait for that but there's something that I do,
what should I do? Want to ask you about now and that's
about technology, dealing with our, I would like to play
readers. How do you feel about that and how you feel about
the implementation for? What police do with that
information?
Here's what?
Here's what I'll tell you.
Here's what I tell you about technology.
I'm for any technology that's going to reduce violent crime
and save lives. Now here's what, I'll tell you the
specially, when we look at the something, like, i l p h. I
license plate readers. We know that there's an abundance of
cars being stolen in the city of Chicago. And we also know
that those cars are being using secondary primes, like
robberies are lprs gives an officer a heads up on those
readers to detect a stolen car. Now, this gives the officer
probable cause to stop at vehicle in a lot of these
situations where that has happened, you know, sometimes
they take off but if the officer is able to stop at car,
once they stop at car and and detain, the occupants are
usually guns found in that car. This is a lot of ways that
are officers are recovering guns.
The common mistake is that there are people who believe
that these are tools of surveillance to spy on people.
That's not, that's not what this is used for. If you look
at a ring doorbell, that's probably one on, you know, they
just probably one house on every block. That doesn't have
one now. So everything is being recorded, everything is
being documented and information gathered from a ring
doorbell helps us and has helped us officers have body
cams. That's a form of technology. That that, that helps
the officer.
You're?
you know what are
You know, Telugu.
You know what tell, tell his or her story is also an
accountability tool for that officer. So I'm all for
technology. That's good. That's going to be helped us with
transparency. Was also going to help us keep the city safe.
It's also going to help us save lives.
that's,
That's my answer to that. Thank you. Thank you again. I
want to command a cheat for seeing seeing the person that
you are and will push it takes a good leader to put a good
leader in place. I haven't always been this nice handsome
good-looking guy, you know who I'm age? 55 + 55, + 3 years
of service now and it's due to a person like Fred. That's
all the goodness in. You my person was a Charles Ramsey who
would have been the superintendent at one time and block me
upside the head in the 80s in high school and put me,
right? And that police Explorer Program
What?
What are all the Taylor was referring to programs like
that, that really works.
Do.
Do you see yourself going back to programs like that?
Absolutely had this funny. Did she mention that my high
school officer was officer Thomas?
and,
And I'll Justin Thomas would do exactly that. You can't do
that anymore, right? But what he would do, you would say
all this time, he's a big man. And he talked to us, they
treated us with respect, but at the same time he held you
accountable. It was there was nothing to see him, dragging
three or four kids across the yard. Making sure that they
went to class. There were times he be talkin out in the
hallway and they look at his watch and go. Don't you
supposed to be in class? He probably everybody upside the
head getting class, right? But that was that was the way it
was them. And to this day to this day, I still think about
all the time is that what he did for all of us at that
time, especially these young kids and his young boy, who
did not have fathers, or did not have a good family life.
He was he served in that role for us. So, absolutely. And
we've got, we got offices on this job male-female and it
doesn't matter if I'm telling you we've got off
Is on this job.
Is on this job would love to step into those roles. Not only
that they're doing it already. They just they're just not
getting the recognition for it and change my life. And
yeah, we're here. We're ready to work with you. So don't
hesitate to I know to reach out and I do think that's a
great idea to make Rounds Around to every Ward. I just to
get the community feedback or on any issues. So appreciate
your service. Thank you million telling all them and more
followed by Alderman Martin.
All the
Alleman.
Solomon Moore. Thank you Tim and I have to stand and salute
my friend our leader interim superintendent Fred wallet.
Thank you so much for your support and everything that you
done. You know how much you mean to me to the Auburn
Gresham community and to this city let me tell you the
things that I might be about use the same thing that I
might about Snelling because you talk and one of those
things is for you your own man and dependence removing the
politics out of this mess and allowing you all to do your
job and when you can't do that what are you willing to do?
Lose your job to stay that way and it went
Lose you gain. And that's what I respect about. You you
didn't stick around for no mess but no mess. If you can.
Let me know if we're going to let the police do their job
and let them do their job. And I want to let you know that
because we will have your back. I know, I will, I know. I
will in just like that asked superintendent Brown. Are you
running the shop or is the mail run in the shop? That's
what I asked. You said he was and I said that I would have.
I'm holding you accountable, I know, I know he went but I
gave you the chance to answer, okay? And he gave me that
answer at that time and so and so I already know, I don't
have to ask you cuz you put you cut from that cloth. If
they not letting you run, we're going to lose a good asset
and that's what happened in that situation so I command
you. So you can send it on wallet for the work that you've
done. And thank you so much for, you know, bringing this
young man up and so he can be the next one. I let me get to
some
first.
first and foremost you are great because if minglewood your
greater because you went to Hinton Elementary School and
that's what we produce right out of there. And so that I
appreciate, let's talk about this pretrial fairness
situation because I want you to clear up some rumors or I
want some real answers. So in terms of the police officers,
say the other day cuz this comes with training that
Alderman, cuz I want to deal with scenarios.
Guys, on the street in front of the stores, or, or in the
community, in front of vacant houses, don't live there.
Well, we not even going to be able to rest them anymore
because of pretrial fairness. We can't even take them now
because they are not doing anything. And when I was a
Precinct Captain, I did a scenario in a situation like that
happen and I went over in Ashburn. When he told me that and
it was cops and a smart, you know, what they did? Is they
be here when we get back and they came back with that Patty
Wagner on our boys. And when I showed that to our police
officers, this was back in the late 90s, early 2000 that
they had to get on it. So let's talk about that in anything
with ACLU and the things that don't cuz those the real
situations that we are facing right now in terms of how we
deal with that soap and we arrest.
Even if it.
Even if it's not violet in the whole situation and as well
as the ACLU because those are the biggest things with
dealing with because I got to be proactive before that
gunshot go off. And that's all I'm trying to do. Okay? So
let's let's talk about that a little bit. We're all and I
can tell you this, with pretrial fair and it's just, it's
not about the arrest it's about holding, that's that's the
bigger issue. The bigger issue is about, holding them. And
this is, this is the tough part on the, the police
department because
But we've got some great.
But we've got some great minds over there and and they do
Mally who is looked over this time and time again. And
we've had training for officers. Now when someone is
arrested in a non violent situation or nonviolent crime,
the decision has to be made. Now, is this a person that we
put in a lockup, right? Is that it are we going to be able
to hold on to that person? The question is now if I don't,
if I don't put this person in a lock up, if I don't detain
them, are they going to commit a further act of violence?
Or are their Flight Risk. These are things now that have to
be made decisions that have to be made in our level now so
our department. I mean right now, sorry, it is what it is.
And we're going to work the best that we can with it. And
we're going to do the best that we can to educate and
communicate with everyone in this room about how this is
going. And we will just have to see how this starts to
unfold. Obviously, it's a challenge is new and it just
started this past week. So this is something that would
just rip. We're seriously going to have to work on. And
I'll tell you right now, if I see the major problems that
are
Turn.
Done with this. I'll raise the flag and we'll see what we
can do. I mean, the way we've got a body of people here who
sound like they want the city to continue to be great.
We're going to have to take a deeper dive into it and
actually look into it or right now officers are being
trained. The best that they can. We talk about being short
offices. Honestly, I wish short cars as well.
Yeah.
Yes. Okay. And how many cars are we short? Another words do
not know, where do the budget? And that's what getting
ready for that. I'm not going to waste of time here, but
you let us know what you need in terms of cars cuz I don't
ever want to be in a situation where someone saying, I
don't have a car to get there. So in this, as we get ready
for this budget cycle, let us know what you need to do the
job. And that also leads to what I call Reserve cars
because there's times when cars got to go into the shop and
maybe maybe down for 30 days or something like that, and so
making sure that we have enough cars and that we have
enough in reserve, whatever that number is, let us know.
Now that we're going to pass that in the budget and get you
all what you need or what not. But I have to know about it.
You understand what I'm saying? So I definitely want to
know. So you can provide that through the chair as we
prepare for Budget. I want.
What's a?
How to know that I appreciate that. The other one is paddy.
Wagons, do we have an ample amount of pay? Anyways, I'm
just not seeing it being utilized. Like, I've seen them.
You lies in a pass especially when you know, again, you
know, we deal with on 1300 West 73rd, Street by hook or
crook. I'm going to clean it up. If I have to sleep out
there, that's the next step. I'm just waiting for you to
get on and give you a chance to clean it up for me. But
otherwise, my next step I'm going out there in the bed and,
you know, I'll do it. And I don't know why. I'm so, hey,
what paddy wagons are we utilize it? Cuz I'm not sending
being utilized that much. Okay. We we call him squadrons
now so that I know of, but we call him squadrons. Now we we
we do have them, but
What we?
What we did, what we don't do unless we have declared a
mass arrest or something of that nature that we just pull
up in this quadrille and start, loading bodies on weed, the
weed, we don't do it that way. We have to make sure that
everything that we're doing is constitutional now when we
recognize a location for their crimes being committed and
we need to get over there and do something about it. We
will absolutely do that. But again we know that policing is
changed laws have changed and we are policing the bed.
We can.
We can, but we're not going to color Outside the Lines.
We're going to make sure that is constitutional and no
matter where would police is going to be constitutional.
But I do understand the challenges that you faced
especially having been the commander of Inglewood and some
of the situations that you're dealing with and with those
situations were looking more at the long-term
investigations to to those most violent people that we want
to remove from those locations. And you know, I respect
that and for me in, or whatever, somebody say
constitutional, it is, it is not unconstitutional. Arrest
people who are? We know, I dealing drugs with you, no
standing in front of places. And at the end of the day,
you're not going to go to jail. We're going to get sued in
that some suits. I'm willing to fight for at the city and
I, and when we got our residents involved, I'm saying if
the Ottoman and I'll expect every all them to do it.
More.
Good morning.
More. I'm not I'm not for that. I only can speak for the
17. When I call and say, let's move let's move. And the end
of the pass you off and good about that. But I need to, I
need to stop that up a little bit more. That's the only
send me 9th Street as we doing Economic Development up
there. And when we saying, we can't move people, but yeah,
if I go to another area those guys standing there, other
cops can move them, that becomes an issue for me. And so
what were all the men? If if if we're looking at it,
Malaysia, where we think?
Malaysia where we think our officers are not being
responsive, then we need to take a deeper, dive in the
absolute talk about that drone. What is your position on
drones and is the ACLU telling you all that you can't use
them to? Here's what I tell you the drones right now
leaving. Now, there limitations to what you can do with the
Drone, we are not flying drones right now but we do have a
drone program. Right now we we do have drones and we're
we're compiling a policy on how we're going to use those
drones. And that policy is going to be rooted in the law
around drone. So when we do start using them, obviously,
we'll we'll make the notification. But everything that we
do, around that drone will be rooted in constitutionality
Okay, thank you all done more. Thank you. Tim 47th, Ward
Alderman, Martin followed by a lemon queen ottoman. Martin,
thank you, Cheri start off like my colleagues with some
brief, but sincere. Thanks to both of you a lot to you
superintendent, for your willingness to, to come back and
continue serving it as an incredibly challenging. But
consequential time in our City's history, and Bri chief for
being willing to step up and find in an even more
challenging role to continue serving. We we truly.
Appreciate.
Appreciate that.
Appreciate that things. I wanted to touch upon Chief to get
your insights love. Most about where you see there being
opportunities moving forward. One thing round robberies. I
know that's been mentioned once or twice we've seen I think
you're over your know if it'll last several years. Some
very encouraging Trends involving. The reductions in gun
violence, homicide shootings, lower rates of carjacking in
robberies is the one that said of violent crime, seems to
be the most troubling up over 40% year over year, and is
alderwoman, we discussed, we have a lot of stakeholders who
need to be more active, in improving that situation
including but not limited to the police department. I'm
curious how you see there being a room for continued
Improvement within CPD, as we see how.
Add.
Patterns.
Patterns are unfolding. I know that these aren't the same
sort of Crews that were operating even just a few years
ago. So, when we last had really significant highs in 2017,
it's not like, we just run back to those practices and
Implement them. A new, where do you see there being
opportunities to improve on the work that's already being
done regarding robberies? Technology technology is going to
be extremely important in dealing with robberies,
especially with these patterns.
Is almond. Curtis mentioned about the LPR
not.
not just the lprs, you know, I are our strategic decision
centers within the district and our area Technology Centers
with that lies within the area, the detective division,
We start to utilize and we are already using it and I can
tell you right now at deputy chief Bruno from the detective
division is over there right now. It's been working really
hard on the 5 News robbery patterns
Ike.
I can tell you something about the ATC room. There was an
incident where an individual shot a woman downtown and he
was on the bike, ended up on the bus in somewhere else.
Through that technology were able to follow him and find
out where he was and apprehending, there was another
incident that happened on the CTA. I believe, is the
redline where domestic-related incident where an individual
stabbed his ex-girlfriend and she was able to give his
name. But based on the be the surveillance cameras on CTA
and along the way, our detectives were able to apprehend
this individual and recover. The murder weapon, we can
utilize
Stay.
Technology. The oprs to find out about these parents because
we know that a lot of this repeat offenders and almond
Taylor mentioned something earlier. About juveniles,
writing juveniles, being released after an event like an
armed robbery. And we know when I can tell you this right
now, all I can tell you that a lot of these juveniles are
repeat offenders also. So we're going to have to find a way
to come up with some type of way because we're not, they're
not with, we're not going to incarcerate a twelve-year-old
or thirteen-year-old. So diversion programs, other program
that we can get these young people in, to divert them away
from these violent acts, that's one, but when it goes, when
it comes back to technology and creating teams that can
rapidly respond,
To.
2.
Two to these locations, where we know that these robberies
are being committed. We also have to educate individuals
and those areas. One of the things that we know is it
people will target areas that they think are soft targets,
places where it's easy to Rob someone. So, what we need to
look at in this is where the community comes in. You, you
will start talking to the city about where we need more
lighting.
Camera.
Cameras ring cameras and the detectives having access to
that, not that we're trying to look into your home. But if
we get access to those ring cameras, it helps us to
identify some of these individuals. But there are also
things like their cell phones where we we look into all of
these things to see who they are, who they are connected
to. So we, there's always room for improvement, but I can
guarantee you right now. We're working hard on trying to
stop these robbery patents and will continue to do. So,
thank you for that. I ate at Stephanie, The Experience,
we've seen in the 19th and 20th, districts in, when I come
in, the people have been really active with a robbery, task
force, not just across different levels of CPD, but also
with other actors in the sheriff's office at the county
level State Police State Police. I think that's what people
want to see and that's going to be part of success. Moving
forward. I'm going to skip over just to my last question.
Excuse me.
Excuse me by.
Excuse me about the consent decree. I can definitely
appreciate that. Especially over the last year
year-and-a-half, we've seen improvements around compliance.
I think we're well over 80% compliant up a little
preliminary standpoint but I also recognize that while this
varies area to area. Generally, preliminary compliances
around, you have a policy that's been created and it's
really that last stage of full compliance. It can be
especially challenging when you're talking about. I think
it's defined as
Successfully implementing the reform and practice even be on
training. I've heard you talk about training, I know of
talk with people in the academy. A lot of work that's going
on there with recruits as well as in-service training,
curious, where you see there being opportunities for
improvement with that full compliance. And this is all to a
manager mentioned this in a 5-year Endeavor is probably not
even a 10-year never, but we hope that it's not a 20-year
Endeavor. So as we get to some compliance areas, that are
even more challenging than preliminary of compliance. Where
do you see in the coming years? Will look back and say it
was by focusing on these things that were helpful in us.
Really ramping up the pace of complaints. What we, we've
actually, I had, I just recently had a meeting with the
team and we
spoke of
Spoke of ways of getting to some of those smaller things in
a consent, decree compliance on those things a little
quicker, right? Some of the pitfalls are things that get in
the way, right? So we're trying to get through some of that
red tape. However, what we don't want to do is rush through
it, we want to make sure that everything that we do has the
levels of accountability that especially when it comes to
the training in the policy, we we can't just throw
something together, we don't want a piecemeal it, we want
to make sure that is truly effective.
We?
We have had these conversations about how we can get
through some of it, a little quicker. Those things like
training that they're going to take time and they should.
And the reason they should take time is because we want to
make sure that we are giving these officers the best
training. I don't want to see officers, get training for
training steak or just for compliance. I want those
officers properly trained and they appreciate it more than
ever. Because just sit in a class and to get training. Just
to just to say that we're in compliance is ineffective for
that officer and quite frankly a little insulted, right?
Because maybe it's time to that officer, could have been
doing something else. We want to make sure that that
officer is getting the best possible training. So will it
take time yet? It's going to take time because we're going
to make sure that we do it right? But those places where we
can move a little faster, we will thank you both so much.
Thank you sir.
And you.
and you're
And y'all to my Martin.
Autumn.
Alderman Quinn all about him and down and work and then
Chico in that order we have four more speakers. Altima
Quinn graduation super superintendent waller for great
career with Chicago Police Department to Snelling.
It was reported, maybe a week or two in the news that the
interim superintendent made some staff changes. Were you
part of those changes?
Soup.
Superintendent Waller is right now, the superintendent of
Police, Superintendent. Wallet makes decisions based on
what he believes is in the best interest of the department.
When it comes to, those decisions, I've had conversations
with superintendent wallet, but ultimately decisions are
made by the superintendent, and those are the decisions
that you might imagine. I represent scores of Chicago.
Police officer is. So this is a question that comes up
quite a bit and a natural. Follow-up would be here. Are
those changes going to stick under your leadership?
I'm going.
I'm going to ask.
I'm going to assess.
I'm going to assess every position on the job and I'm going
to do what's in the best interest of the department.
So I can't sit here and say that one position is going to
stay at 1 is going to move. I'm going to make full
assessments of every situation and try to put the best
person in the best place often times. We, we don't
necessarily have, we're not utilizing the skill sets in the
best possible way, so will there be there? Be movement.
There will absolutely be movement, but I will have to make
a full assessment of each situation building on what my
colleague from the 11th. Ward and Nicole Lee had talked
about relative, the catalytic converters which is a real
issue City, why it's been, it's been a real issue. And in
the 8th District, the 13th Ward, and I've come to
understand that there's a no chase policy because it's it's
a crime of theft of property is that sexual
so,
So I wouldn't say a no chase policy. Okay. But there's a
balancing test and that balancing the balancing test is
based on this
Does apprehending.
This.
This individual without delay.
outweigh the risk that it poses to the public if it's Chase
contains so,
One.
One of the things that I'll tell you is this is that when
an officer gauges in a vehicle Pursuit, regardless of the
crime, if the person that they're pursuing is blowing
through intersections red lights at ridiculously, high
rates of speed, this now, poses, a threat to the public.
And now, at this point, an officer who is engaged in that
pursuit or a supervisor, now, has to make a determination,
is this worth the risk of a pedestrian being killed or
someone? What, what this, the person who committed the
crime and is that the vehicle is being pursued. Smashes
into another car and killed another motorist.
That.
That live.
That liar.
That liability falls on the officer at this point. So now
The.
The supervisor or the officer who can self terminate has to
make the decision.
Is this worth the risk of the life of someone else? And in
that situation, either the officer can self-terminate or
supervisor Cuts in and terminates that vehicle. Crystal
feel like this is going to continue to go on because
The.
The thieves know that there isn't going to be a Chase, but
that's we could talk about that offline. I'm delighted to
hear about drones and wanted to get your quick reaction
about how maybe that sort of Technology could be utilized
and dealing with Street takeovers, which is, which is
another problem in the 13th. Ward that would be the proper
use of it. That would be for its intended purpose, we're
looking at traffic large Gathering protest civil, unrest.
So I wanted to put this on the record, I would be prepared
to use menu, money to buy drugs or that.
Thank you for that.
Thank you for that, sure.
She?
Chief, you talked about, you talked about hiring sergeants
and our mayor has talked about adding detectives. How could
we balance making those changes and maintaining or trying
to get beat Integrity? We do it incrementally. And we, we
can't just just promote 100 detective one time and then
promotes, you know, hundred sergeants at one time because
that would take two 200 bodies from control. We would do it
in for Monday. We will do it small in numbers. And as we
get more new officers coming out of the academy, we would
make those incremental promotions today, in the 8th
District, were our office to per capita ratio is 9 / 10000,
which is
Not.
Not Equitable, frankly and I really appreciate the
conversation we had on Wednesday because the residence of
the 13th Ward want a new police district. And that's the
campaign that we've started and I look forward to having
those discussions with you. I'm to Alderman, Irving's
point, I'm fairly certain a good part of clearing Westlaw
in Garfield Ridge. Those communities weren't even built
when the 8th District boundaries, were created, back in the
fifties. And so, spotty loves talking about Equity, it's
becoming a real problem to eat this trip when I was growing
up people and I called a district place to retire, and
that's not the case anymore. And so I really look forward
to having that dialogue with you. We've had a great
commanders from Brian's Brandi to Fred million to our chief
of a show by McDermott grateful for that. I'd like to thank
our community. Does everything that's asked of us by the
police bringing people together, everything that's been
kicked off. Your
We?
Would you?
we just
We just need to be met halfway. So I'm really looking
forward to that opportunity on October 25th which is a
Wednesday. We're actually having a job fair. I'd love for
you to come home and try to recruit officers. I recognize
that I stand ready to be helpful. So I offer my
congratulations to you sir. I look forward to working with
you and my congratulations to you superintendent. Thanks.
Thanks for stepping up all the women down by all the women
might not happen work.
Thank you, Miss.
Thank you, mr. Chair when Mary Johnson appointed
superintendent Waller as the interim superintendent. I was
very hell out of confidence in the future of the
department. Because I knew him to be someone who knows the
police department, who has the worldview of the importance
of following, the rule of law working with the police, but
also putting the responsibility appropriately on
communities to keep our safety in this city and that he was
action-oriented. And so when the commission and the Mayors
elected chief of Snelling as the new superintendent, I felt
the same way because I believe that you share that vision
for the, the city that, you know, CPD.
It's
But you have a worldview that I think all of most people
would be supportive of and that your action oriented. And I
know that action-oriented firsthand. So I want to thank you
a superintendent wallet for your service, to the city of
Chicago, and I look forward to Casting. My vote in favor of
you at the next city council meeting. I do have a few
questions. I wanted to ask you one was I really think that
there needs to be a re-evaluation.
Of the relay.
Of the relationship between c p. D the c h, a and the park
district. And I wondered, if you could come in on that, how
you doing thinking about that now, again, just
The the problem that I've seen over the past two years and
that just sat, and I say, throughout my 30-year career, is
that we work in silence and because this is my little plot
of land that your little plot of land and I take care of my
plight and you take care of your plight. But what we don't
understand is you might need a little of what I have over
there and and vice versa.
We have to bring everybody together. So then we talked
about City agencies
Talking about Community organizations Community leaders. So
that everybody understands what everybody else is doing and
what is it that I can provide that's going to help you and
what is it that you can provide this going to help me. I
think that just helps everybody. If we don't get away from
this Silo style of governing that's it we're just going to
continue to spend. I will actually take hold though. I mean
that's a good sounds good but how is that actually
happening media perspective meetings we have to bring
everybody together.
We have to sit in one room and talk.
We have to sit in one room and talk about what we need,
What are problems are. A lot of times we don't even know
what the what problems is each. You know the agency has a
so until we sit down and have those conversations and talk
to each other, we won't know. So getting everybody in the
one room and talkin about these things, so I'll give an
example Alderman. If you if you brought an issue to me that
you thought was a Park District issue, then we can meet
with the park district, we need to bring them in and then
we need to bring in whoever else is going to be helpful
chha. Let's all go and sit in the room and see what we can
do better. And they need to have some skin in the game.
It's not just a CPD, it's not just the CPD issue. Okay, so
I'll be knocking on your door about that accountability for
everybody. All right? So I just wanted to stay on the
remapping point about the beats and the district.
I hear you. And I just heard you not to be like the ones
before you we set before us and said that he was going to
do an analysis to figure out how to change the district
McCarthy said the same thing and brown, you know, played
around with it, but nobody ever did it. So, if you say the
here today that your
going to look at
Going to look at that.
I want to look at that, please look at it. Even if it's not
the answer that we want or it's not what we would say, you
know is all the men we've been through are we mapping
process? But I was just hurt you to just make sure you
follow through with that. Absolutely. All right, I want to
talk about the vehicle break-ins. I'm which is different
from carjacking which is different from these pattern
robberies that we're seeing. I'm seeing a lot of that
increasing the first and the second district and I'm
wondering I hear you talk about your own. So withdrawn to
be something that could be utilized for that. I've also
recommended that perhaps we could come up with the task
force similar to the carjacking task force of the robbery
task force, but I need something to be able to tell my
constituents about how the police department is handling
this because it's happy.
quite
Quite frequently what I would tell you this all to me. Let
me go back with the team. We sent especially when it comes
to the drones and because I don't want to give you a
concrete answer right now because we're still working on
that policy and how we can fit that in. Okay, that's one of
the things that I want to talk about. The other thing is
I'd actually like to find out the district's the
boundaries.
Where this is happening right now.
Where this is happening right now and get you some it is an
immediate response to that and then we look at the
long-term response. I think that you have on superintendent
Waller has addressed adding some additional resources but
this is a crime that you can't really predict what it could
be on. Michigan Avenue one day Calumet on another day. I'm
so I'm trying to figure out how we get our hands around
that and I look forward to a conversation with you around
that absolutely.
You.
You mentioned putting the authority of the districts in the
hands of the district commanders. Are you still going to be
measuring their performance compstat or absolutely? That.
That's the reason that you give them the autonomy since
it's really hard. But if I, if I have a district commander
and I'm telling him how to run his district, and I give him
the plan with her the plan and it's a failing plan. How do
I hold that person accountable for a plan that I gave them
and they know the district better than I do their District
commanders for that reason.
did they did they have to be empowered to do the job of a
commander so
Once I put that power in the hands of the district
Commander then accountability becomes even easier right?
Because now I can measure the district commanders ability
to get that job done. Okay income status the right tool for
that. It goes beyond cops that, but an evaluation of
performance. It's not that he doesn't have to just be
constant. Right? We we can look at the district as a whole
in all of the things that need to be performed as a
district Commander. So but moving forward. We also we're
also looking at mentorship and development for command
stand.
write the
Right because basically throwing a commander into that
position without that Command Staff Development, they have
to develop into the job. Now. They're going to have to do
that. Anyway, however, if we give them extra tools to do
that that transition becomes a lot easier for that District
commanded my last question. I understand where 1500 office
is down, but not every district is the same and I know some
districts have more commercial activity.
Stadiums.
New hire, you know, housing that's come in population
increases, how do you, how often do you look at the state
of the district and the allocation of the patrol. But I'll
be looking at it now, but
What?
What we look at the specially, in our districts, where we
have a higher volume of violent crime, just to make sure
that those districts a man, probably because when officers
are responding to these violent crimes, obviously our first
order of business is the sanctity of human life, right? We
want to make sure that people are safe and we have to have
the right number of officers to respond to high-volume
cause of violence. That's one. The other thing is that when
our officers responding to those violent, cause we want to
make sure they have partners and that their offices to back
these other officers up when they're responding to those
calls. So, moving forward, it'll be a continued assessment
on Manpower, allocations mere fact that something you were
going to look into soon.
Okay.
okay, well, I wish you
Okay. Well, I wish you. Well like I said, I look for, I'm
looking forward to voting yes. Next week and as you sit in
that office on 35th and Michigan every now and then look
down on Michigan and look down on those look down on 35th
Street and help me clear up some of the stuff that I see
their. Yes, ma'am, thank you.
The woman.
The woman down all the women are hopping worth followed by
Alderman Chico.
Thank.
And key chair.
I wanted to thank superintendent waller, or you work during
the transition transition times or
In.
Interesting times for me, when all things can Bubble Up and
in that gray, you can find new Pathways forward. And right
now, we need so much coming out of the pandemic and so many
other things. After the murder of George, Floyd, we need
healing. So thank you for your work and also, hello, or
Snelling. We have not had a chance to meet Lenny and IHOP
in worth from the 48th. Ward, and my district has the 20th
and 24th Police District. We have a new commander and the
20th in fact, I invite you to an event next week. It's
They are.
A day after my birthday on the 26th on Tuesday. Thank you.
It's at that North Shore. Baptist Church. And to Alders
will be there at myself and Alderman Vasquez. I need a
district commander commander buyer and I'll do that
district councillors will be. There will also have Senator
Mike Simmons there and it will be, as you say, you know, an
opportunity for people to meet in person and to get to know
one another and find ways that we can truly find a path.
I'm so encouraged by all that I'm hearing today, I've heard
so much about you already from so many people who are
excited for your appointment because they say that you are
somebody that can bring people together and
and I,
and an
And and, and work towards Public Safety for everyone. And
in the 48th Ward, we have the highest population of lgbtq
people, probably in the nation, in our three zip code and
we have Asia on Argyle. I'm the daughter Filipino
immigrants so I'm very proud to represent that are the word
and I'm apart of Uptown. And with the moment that we are
living in right now with the rise of
I'm including against Asian American and lgbtq plus people
on, I'm looking forward to working with you on ways that we
can bridge the gap between my constituents.
An.
and up and also,
The Caps folks that I work with, who have been so available
and and you because there is a distressed over all about
what it, what Public Safety means. And I think that in this
moment, I hope that we can move forward, really with the
north star that says that right now. The police do too
much.
expecting you to,
Do everything is is wrong firstly. And secondly it's not
going to bring us to an understanding of what you all can
do. You truly for us to help keep the peace in all of our
neighborhoods across Chicago? We're really
Fortunate.
Fortunate I am fortunate to live in the 20th District which
is you know one of the safest in Chicago.
but,
In.
In Andersonville to you. But on our streets, we still we
still do have threats of against lgbtq plus people in our
businesses on the busy Clark Street. And I wanted to know
from you because our office, which is on the Bryn, Mawr
business Corridor. We just went through a higher chance
now. Training with the Chicago therapy, Collective was
actually pushed up to the city as a resolution and I right
now trans people are under attack and when you say that you
want to Serve and Protect everyone, I just want to get your
commitment that you towards that end in making sure that
your trainees also are including trans people. Because
right now we we need that commitment.
From.
From you I'm so will you will you consider going through a
training with the Chicago therapy collective in the higher
chance? Now it is a way for employers to be more inclusive
and and I will also commit to as older, women Smith and
Nugent dead going to do that. Don't shoot me. I'm training
that you also provide because I need a better understanding
of what you all do and how you are trained. And it's so,
can I get your commitment to work with the Chicago therapy
Collective on the higher trans now practices?
Is.
Is what I will tell you all the man that I love everything
you just said.
I'm committed to everybody number one and so are Chicago
police officers. We believe in safety for everyone, doesn't
matter who you are where you're from. That's that's what
we're dedicated doing. I love the fact that you're willing
to participate in our training and I will commit that to
you and not only for myself, but others from the
Department.
Thank you. I wanted to tell you a story about during the
pandemic. As I said, I live in Andersonville and a friend
of mine was going through a mental crisis in the
spiralling. It was on a Sunday. It was getting late. It
started to rain and I didn't know what to do. I called many
of my friends who are in Social Service, and I also called
the thresholds clinic and it was a Sunday. So really,
people were not available and the folks that I had on the
lines that you you really need to call 911 and I said I
don't want to call the police because she doesn't need an
officer right now. She needs my child support but
eventually I did. And and the and they came but they came
with lights on and it stopped in the middle of the street.
and I,
And I got yelled at.
And I got yelled at because I approached the car and it was
very awkward because she's also a health care provider and
she wasn't to the point where she needed to be, you know,
taken away in a Paddy Wagon. She really needed somebody to
help her deescalate. I'm out here, working a physical
therapist but not a social worker and so I, I don't I am
not equipped to do that. I know that the person that came
was Crisis Intervention trained, but at that point, we were
all literally standing on the sidewalk. Not knowing what to
do as she was spiraling because she wasn't hurting herself
and she wasn't hurting anyone else and it's that kind of
great area. That's really
and,
Andrew.
under my
And her right now. You know what what are we doing? I had
the officers called a supervisor who came out and I said,
this is unacceptable. I don't know what's happening here
and she needs help. And he said, I don't know what to tell
you because I don't work for any Social Service agents, you
know, I'm a police officer. I said, what should I do? He
said call your alderman.
that's,
That's why I'm here. I need a better understanding of what
we're doing and how we're keeping everybody safe. You know,
what? No matter what your mental status is, can I get a
commitment from you that you'll consider talk continue to
talk about ways that we can.
Bring other people into the fold. So it's not an officer
that comes to and is expected to deescalate and moments of
mental crisis model to get because calls like that. Where,
you know, that you didn't initially, want to call the
police. For those reasons that lights and Sirens the
uniform that if we're able to call someone else to respond
to that non-criminal situation or not police officers were
better equipped to deal with that.
That.
That's that's what I would be looking forward to. So that's
what I'm working toward and when you be working with
agencies that use, 988, I'm sorry is 988. Instead of
calling 911 with those calls go to 988 Wilbert, so I'll
bring it or I would have to look into our. Can't answer
that question right now until we get to the bottom of who
is going to be answering these calls and and because I mean
it could be liability issues there. We just want to make
sure that we have the right people showing up to calls like
that.
so,
So I can't commit that to one particular entity that would
handle that, but we will be working. Toward the end will be
listen to everybody's voices who can help and kill ya at
the at the Statewide level it did pass is called stessa
Community, emergency response Services act and supposed to
be a much at Municipal level, but my time is up. I look
forward to working with you. Congratulations on your
appointment. I hope I can see you next week, and I look
forward to a building up a better Chicago, where everyone
feel safe, no matter where they live, thank you. And you're
all the woman, all them in Chico and will be closed by
Alderman. Harris older women hair.
Thank you. Check.
Thank you, general superintendent wallet. Thank you for
your service as a rookie cop. You were my first Commander.
I remember that I saw you was at L then I see you as a
leader now. So thank you for everything you do. I also want
to thank the many women in the Box will also make this
department. Go that you say takes everybody and it's also
going to take them as well. I'm to help you in this
journey. So I want to thank them for all the commitment
you've given to the city.
Chicago police officer for the last two and a half years
took his leave. When I assume this role and you cross paths
Through The Years. In fact.
You are my structure in the academy and who would have
thought when you were teaching me how to handcuff that we
both be sitting here right now, looking at each other. And
in these positions, I saw you grow from instructing the
academy 2, going to Englewood, be coming from China. And
then the Commander in your own, I was Deputy Chief and
along the way. I've seen you interact with, not only police
officer supervisors and what the public and in all those
interactions in. Every cent you've ever given the respect
respect from the police and respect in the public. And that
is something that is needed.
In.
In a row.
In the role of the superintendent. Then this other stuff
matters. If there's no respect there and I want to let you
know that. I see that I commend that and I bought that
quick question. I had was in terms of overtime.
Wii boxing be on the same page about effective policing when
it comes to that. Now we know things like NASCAR 4th of
July fast, that requires overtime. And with the Manpower
down the way it is for the foreseeable future. We're always
going to have overtime or looking at things like tear
deployment and its Effectiveness kind of take me through
that and then if you would kind of be evaluate that I liked
what you said about, pushing it down to the commanders and
in holding them accountable for their own overtime and
keeping the officers in their District. Instead of going to
37 being a ploy to a district that
on your
On the other side of town to get that, they know nothing
about kind of walk me through your, your views on things
like tear deployment and overtime and putting it in the
hands of the commander. Will this this goes back to the
Commander's making decisions on
Or.
Overtime, within their own districts.
It may.
It makes more sense to have officers who are in districts
that they are. They are familiar with doing the work.
The.
The tiered.
The tyr deployment.
We?
Was necessary at some point, but as we wind down, we need
to reassess that entire situation because we're looking at
day off cancellations for officers. Obviously, we have to
look into the Wellness aspect of it, but we also have to
look into what are we getting for that overtime? What is
the, what is the outcome? So if we're putting up over time,
what are we getting for it? Now, as you mention, they are
going to be times where we absolutely have to you lies,
over time, their time for will absolutely going to have to
cancel days off. When you look at all of the events that
occur in the summer, if we really going to keep this city
safe, we have to have all hands on deck. Specially being
1500 office is down, but we have to take a long hard. Look
at the cancellation of the days off offices. At this
distance, I was just having their days off guaranteed until
we know,
they were going to have to cancel the
They were going to have to cancel days off and then we give
them plenty of notice so that they can make plans for their
families. That's going to be helpful all the way around
going to be helpful for wellness. It's going to be helpful
for us controlling over time, and it's going to give is
going to give that leverage back to the district commanders
to make decisions as to where they want to put bodies to
make sure that their districts is safe. So we have crime
issues and one particular spot. The district Commander
should know that and he wants to beef up Patrols in that
area District Commander will have the ability to do that.
Thank you.
In terms of community policing. I know it's a big topic not
only here but but outside of here.
I feel as a police officer. I worked in my district and I
understood the culture people just as you didn't Englewood.
What's your view on kind of attracting police officers to
the district where they grew up in a living that really
understand the culture and I can maybe give a little bit
more to that District because they understand it and they
get it part of that is recruiting recruiting from those
locations, right and that this goes back to what I say
about giving back to your community. Give it back to your
neighborhood.
right, if we
Right? If we have a recruitment campaign where we're
recruiting from specific neighborhoods, where recruiting
from specific areas in the city. Now we're recruiting
people who understand the culture. We're recruiting people
who understand the neighborhoods. We we're bringing people
in who have a stake in what they're doing. So now we have
people who show up to work everyday and put the star on the
go out and make the communities that they serve better
because they understand the communities, they understand
the people. And that's what we need to really get down to a
one last one. I know you're kind of terrorism and our
federal partners are very important in in eradicating. The
Chronic problems. We have in every one of our Wards. I know
some District do it as far as having the federal Partners
working in the district.
What?
What, what?
What what is your outlook on that kind of long-term
applying that's every District in kind of have in our
federal Partners partner with the officers in the district
to kind of deal with their chronic problems. And sometimes
are very difficult to get rid of on a district-level just,
it's a visible office. So that there are several things
that we can do in some of the things that we're already
doing our state and County Partners working, excuse me
lockstep with us. What day did I tell you? When we call on
the the county and the state to help us out with certain
things they do?
free job with the
Free job with that. No federal Partners, what we're doing
with our federal Partners is that when we see the major
problems that the, the serious violence and the long-term
effects that it has one Community. This is where we doing
those long-term investigations. And in any in any area
where we see that we will do those long-term
investigations. We've done several and several takedowns
throughout the year and we obviously have the do you know
what that long-term investigations going on? So if there's
any issue in any District across the city, where we know
that our federal partners are going to be helpful in
resolving. Those issues will absolutely get them involved.
Thank.
Thank you.
Thank you, Chief. I appreciate you. And I look forward to
working with you, so you staying in shape. Thank you.
Thank.
Thank you. I'm all done with Chico and the clothes out from
the 8th ward, Michelle a Arris. Thank you Tim and I only
have about 10 question papers, try to keep it short but I
really want to take this opportunity to thank rottweiler
for. His leadership, is commitment his work throughout his
entire career for being a fabulous leader, and I appreciate
you coming back.
After leaving.
After leaving to come back and do this job, shows your
commitment, not just do what you believe in but your
commitment to the city of Chicago. So thank you so much.
Secondly, I'm grateful that our chief Snelling was picked.
I had the opportunity when he was an area to to work
closely with him. And that's why I've been around so long
and so, thank you for your leadership. Thank you for taking
this. Thank the mayor for picking you. And I think once you
get there, everything is going to be wonderful. The two
things that I that I want, I'm a person that believes in
meetings and I meet you to death, but could you consider
want you to consider how you do this, for every area,
bringing the commanders, and the Alderman, and a space
together.
Native.
need a
Meet up once a quarter once every 6 months but something
like that just to have the opportunity for me to have all
my commanders in one place at once and it would be amazing.
But I like also to have my colleagues that are in the area
with me, they have that opportunity to to see what's
happening and other districts. It can be kind of
enlightening to shoot pool ideas and Concepts around the
area. Not only is that a possibility that's the plan so
that will absolutely happen.
alright, I'm
Alright, I'm happy.
Alright, I'm happy now. And finally know, I'm a big fan of
the dco program and it works quite well in certain
districts. Have we considered like, where is working well
to create some kind of training program, around District
that do it well, so that it can be rolled out as
effectively and those District as it as it is. Another, I
got beat to really know that was that was from my we we
never reset it but I know you're good for you good for
another 45 seconds. At least dco program was piloted in the
4th District 6th District. That's something that we need to
just take a deeper dive because it's it was piloted.
Obviously you know there's a training program around it
right now but will take a deeper look in that we can
actually talk about that when I thank you again. Thank you.
I am thrilled. I am going to vote for you. If I can both of
you twice I would
Let me.
Let me put.
Let me push that button one time but no, thank you for your
leadership. The city is excited and water and my residents
are excited about having new leadership and having you sit
there. So thank you so much. I can't wait to work with you
and your older woman. Let me boot as we close, I'll let me
thank you for all your leadership and and I certainly look
forward to the men and women are benefiting from your
leadership.
Again, I can't close.
Again, I can't close it without thanking superintendent
Waller, again, as well as ccpsa for their hard-working. And
in bringing this bringing us to the place that we're at
today. So I certainly appreciate it. And since there are no
further hands raised Alderman, Alderman Mitchell, would you
like to renew your motion to move that the appointment? She
Snelling so move.
All.
All them.
Alderman Mitchell mousse that the appointment of Chief
Snelling superintendent, police be approved. All those in
favor. Signify by saying, I all those opposed
He was talking to Jimmy. I remember him. He was talking to
Jim. Although in a opinion of the chairs eyes, have it
congratulation to Snelling.
This matter be reported out on September 27th and next
meeting of the city council. Can I get a motion to adjourn?
The Moon.
Do mobile mnuchin all those in favor. Say aye all those a
pole and opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, the
meeting of the committee on police and fire is now
adjourned. Thank you guys for showing.