Good afternoon, everyone the meeting of the committee on
economic Apple. Technology developments call to order will
not have a roll, call to establish a quorum. Please note
that your present response will be deemed a. Yes vote is
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Cameron. We have we have 11 present. The first order of
business is approval of the July 2023. Monthly report
strike that I've been informed, that no one has signed up
for public comment within the applicable. Provisions of the
sergeant-at-arms protocol. Also we have received zero
written comments. The first order of business is approved
the July 2023, monthly report, which all members of the
committee should have received. Are there any questions or
comments from the committee members regarding the report?
Sing.
Signal hands. May have a motion to recommend approval of
July 2023. Monthly report, the same roll call vote as was
applied to determine corn.
Element of August Maxon, wolves are no objections. So
ordered at least in some of the following items will be
deferred pending additional departamental and automatic
review and support item. Number 5, appointment of Alejandro
Florez to SSA number 3, Southwest business growth area
commission. I don't have a 7 appointment of sullen G hurt
at the same number 42, 71st Street, Stony Island commission
item, 14 and organs to prove the issuance of class 6B tax
incentive for a property at 4403 to 4057 South, normal
street, for 30224 58th, West 41st Street, the 11th ward,
and I'm 16 and organs to approve the issuance of a class.
It's be.
6B Texas Center for property at 1951 West Hastings in the
28th, Ward item. 17in ordinance approved, the issuance of
class 6B tax incentive for property at 2017, and 2057 West
Chicago Avenue, and the 36th Ward may have a motion to
defer. These, I was going to stay and roll call vote. As
was applied to the term corned.
I'll
Olive.
Alvin Cardona some loser, no directions to order items. One
through four 6 and 8 to 12 on the agenda, our series of
appointments every appointments the very special service
areas introduced by Mary Johnson during June 21st, 2023,
and July 19th, 23, 2023 City, Council meetings, the
following individuals are being considered for the
committee appointment of panagiotis, Cape alava, Nina's to
SSA number 22 Andersonville Andersonville, location
commission, located in the 40th, 47th and 48th towards
reappointment of Joe Oliveira as a sign of a 28-20, 14, Six
Corners commission. Located in 45th appointment of Richard,
Norwood to SSA. Number 42 71st Street Island commission
located in the 5th, 7th and 8th. Ward appointment of Robert
h, block the SSA number 48, Old Town commission, located in
the 2nd and 27th warts.
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if I,
The following committee, appointments were deferred at the
July 10th 2023. Economic development meeting at are now up
for reconsideration appointment of Eric Valdez to say
number 39, Brighton Park, Archer Heights, commission
located at 12th, and 14th towards appointment. By Isha
Amina, Karam SSA. Number 42, 71st Street. Highland
commission 71st Stony Island commission, located 5th, 7th
and 8th Ward's. Appointment of Linda, DeYoung to SSA number
42, 71st Street. Stony Island commission located in 5th,
7th and 8th, ward appointment of Damen, L Smith to SSA.
Number 42, 71st Stony Island, commission, located 5th, 7th
and 8th Ward's. Appointment of Sean are McGinnis. SSA
number 42, 71st Street. Stony Island commission located in
the 5th. 7th and 8th Ward's, appointment of Alejandro
Gonzalez. SSA number
What?
47th Street and Cottage Grove commission located on 4th and
20th wards.
If this.
At this time.
Marco.
Mark Roshan assistant commissioner with the Department of
planning and development is available to enter answer any
questions.
are there a
Are there any questions from the members?
The ECP, the economic Apple technology development
committee has confirmed the support or non objection from
the following council members with appointments, or we
appointments within their respective impact, the ottoman
Hopkins. Nancy Mitchell Alderman, Harris, Alderman,
Alderman, Quinn Moore Taylor. And Burnett Vasquez Oldman
Gardner Alderman, Martin alderwoman Manahawkin worth
Moe's.
Most commissioner candidates were unable to appear for
today's meeting. However, I am in support as I spoken with
these appointees and their reappoint. He's at this time
with any of the members of the committee or council members
like to make a statement or ask any questions.
Auburn Mitchell. I wanted to. We have one gentleman that
came down at the appointments. Ssa-42, he wanted to see the
process and everything. So I don't know if I, if you wanted
to say anything, mister mister is Mister, Richard know or
what? Thank you for that. That's my next Point. Questions
from the members, then we will allow the the appointees and
reappointed as the ability to make a public comment, you
okay.
Okay.
Okay, if any of the appointees are, we appointees are
present in like make a statement at this time. Please
indicate so and please step to the mic.
Please identify yourself for the record. Robert block for
appointment at SS, a 48. I'm a longtime resident of the old
town area lived there, most of my life, I currently serve
on the Old Town merchants and residents Association on the
board. Also served on several, the committee's the zoning,
and government Relations Committee. Also the policy
committee and also on the Safety Committee. I welcome the
opportunity to serve my community. I enjoy living in my
commuting. I enjoy what the ss48 is done for the community.
I want to be an active participant. I don't want to see the
build on their achievements, and I want to see the future
growth of old town. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Alvin and
Robin Brennan.
Hey.
Thank.
Thank you very much as a former Alderman of Old Town. I like
the first of all commitments, the block but its commitment
to serving. The community has been doing it for several
years. I does event tasks job annoys, you know those spots
don't get paid but they do a lot of work and go to a lot of
meetings and I have to tell you I just my my past
experience with Motown. There's a lot going on, so it keeps
him busy. So I just want to commend him for his duty and
civic duty. But also support this reappointment, only half
of myself and ottoman Hopkins in his absence.
He's?
Please identify yourself for the record.
Hello. Richard Norwood here. Ssa-42 71st Stony Island. I
have been a longtime resident of the community for the past
10, 10 years and I want to just serve my community, right?
There.
There has been.
A lot.
A lot of a lot of crime and this investment within that
71st Corridor between, Stony Island, and South Shore, South
Shore Drive. And so, I would love to serve my community in
any capacity that they see fit. Also, I am a
Turn up, Jackson.
Jackson Park Highland.
Jackson Park Highlands Association, as well as part of the
Jackson Park advisory Council.
Nicki.
Thank you.
Erwin.
Amanda Hathaway. Hi, I just wanted to say thank you as
Elder woman of the 48th Ward Andersonville, Edgewater and
Uptown, who was born on 93rd and Yates and my dad, and I
worked in those hospitals down there. And also as a student
I lived on Schiller and wells in Old Town. I appreciate
both of you is I'm also a small business owner and you know
the Vitality of our economic Corridor is really is built on
the backs of individuals who want the community to do well.
So thank you so much for your service. Thank you.
Thank.
Thank you. Let me have a motion to recommend approval of
the appointment. Sorry, appointment for the same roll, call
vote as was applied to the term quorum.
Autumn.
Audible. Esparza love hearing your directions to order. The
do pass recommendation, the appointment to Rapunzel
reported out the next city council meeting. Appointees,
Andre appointees. Congratulations on your confirmation in
partnership with the city. We look forward to working with
you.
I do.
Adam 13 on the agendas and organs to approve the issuance
of a Class 6 be tax. Incentives, are vacant building a
property located at 407 West 109th Street in the 21st Ward,
Terrance Johnson, the assistant commissioner Department of
Planning and Development are to present in support of the
item and will it will be available to answer any questions
but there's at least some members of the development team
are available to answer. Questions. Louis Vasquez,
president of total construction Socorro basket, vice
president of pro construction, Kevin Fanning attorney at
Fanning law. Vice-chairman Mosley is present to comment on
this matter as this project is within his Ward parents.
If you Channel?
Okay.
Morning, Show me the address and members of the committee
on economic capital and Technology development, for the
record. My name is Janice Johnson assistant commissioner of
the Department of Planning and Development. I am also
joined today by Luis and so has a total construction and
Kevin finding of family, law representing the development
team. I'm here today to request the approval of an
ordinance support in the class. Beats classic speed
property taxes in Puerto construction, Corp for the purpose
of renovating existing, 14,000 square foot building in
constructing a 9600 square-foot addition located at 407.
109th Street
Freddy.
Credit.
Credit site is in the 21st Ward with in the far, south
Roseland Community area and aldermen Ramos's supports the
project.
Yeah.
Yep. Can attest to renovate the existing 1400 square foot
building and construct, a new 9600 square-foot addition.
The app control construction with operating steel and wall
panel manufacturing facility, under the name, Integrity
wall at this property. The property has been vacant since
July of 2018.
Is.
Is the neighborhood context of the subject property? Is the
white roof, just blow the, the red marker.
it's
Best. Buy, depicts the current condition of the site in the
existing building.
There's a
Here's an aerial view of the site and where the 9600
square-foot addition will be construction, which is
outlined in blue with the adjacent to the existing
building, which is outlined in red.
Perfect.
Pentecost is estimated at 1.3 million. It is primarily
being financed with Equity from the developer with a small
portion coming from a spiff Grande
Yes.
Just made it 12. Your text savings are $260,000, and the
city share is 60,000, the total estimated net benefit to
all testing district is $16,000.
DVD is in support of this project that will bring roughly
1.3 million in investment to the Roseland Community area.
The president will be required to retain 35 to 40 and
create 10 to 15 new full-time. Permanent jobs will also
require the developer to comply with the city standard
mbewe requirements.
Iggy.
Thank you.
Thank you for your favorite. Your favorite consideration of
this request, as well as members of the Roman team are
happy to answer any questions that can be made.
Slime.
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On the car donut making Sherman.
Arsalan, thank older Mosley for your doing this, especially
for that kind of neighborhood, but at the same time, I see
the addition. What during construction? What what is the
planet site working for it being build out? What is the use
of DVD? It's on a spider will be all right. If I buy Turtle
Construction in like I mentioned, a will be operating a
still wallpaper.
A company out of the basic. Basically, do the construction
are doing the build-out or for the materials to build
another space. So they could make their business, more
Enterprise apple or basically get get the materials in is
that with the space is used for going to be used for. It's
going to be used for both manufacturing and storage do I
can have him be allowed the president vice president of the
company to talk about what they're doing with this. With
this facility. We have, we have Louis Vasquez is Oklahoma's
Mascots from Toro Toro. I'm sorry from Integrity wall also
tour, construction. I can talk to it and we start to grow.
Hello everyone. My name is Luis Vasquez on the president of
Integrity wall and president of total construction. What
we're trying to bring you here to the neighborhood is a job
creation the area. It just it works perfect because of the
Destroyers area is definitely deserves an investment
previously. Decided it was generating quite a bit of jobs
building in New York and Florida. The idea that we're
bringing we're going to be building in Chicago. Do we have
two main focuses? We're going to be building residential
homes that are known in the street right now, as we
Main.
Naming several neighborhoods reclaim no longer over came
back of the jars, to the plane belts and those hard to
build single-family homes that can be from 400 square foot
to 1600 square foot. That decision that you see you guys.
See and blue dots addition to build homes, strictly with
construction that will generate 15 to 20 jobs for 10 to 15
jobs depends on the volume. We've been working with several
developers Community Builders United Power, even working
with us on how many, how many holes we can build for them.
Right now that are, is 300 homes on the table. There are
some sources of funding from the city of Chicago
Interstate. They just want to work with someone that has a
property volume and capacity to be able to deliver as many
homes as possible. Where are the only the only local
company that is able to build these homes?
Delray.
The right way, meaning certified payrolls job, creation,
union, health, and Healthcare, and benefits Delray Square.
The existing Warehouse is already focused on Commercial
projects, which means Department of Housing projects,
currently has more than 20 years have proven invest in the
southwest. Those projects, and our projects and being
billed from Wisconsin to Indiana. Just called to work. That
we manage is a provide the corner shelf for over. 45 story
buildings. Most of those projects are being built in
Wisconsin. Crossing the border may be paying tax free
because there's something sort of tactics and projects.
Where I create?
We are creating new jobs in Chicago is fully operational can
generate up to 30 jobs and we're going to be building for
Chicago in Chicago Old Chicago Fun Day projects. I will
leave it open to the floor if you have anymore questions.
Thank.
Thank you. Thank you for the explanation. I support this
project. I know total construction has been implemented
throughout our housing and construction during the years.
German I move forward with this passage. Thank you.
How old is?
Cardona.
The context in part because this this is not a new campaign
or initiative to the council. We actually had an
opportunity through counsel to the housing committee last
year to help move forward with the parcels of land to
creep. No homes that you're talking about in these
communities. So it's really exciting to me to see the way
that this ordinance, this work and Company connects to that
larger movement in the city to create affordable
homeownership in the investment in these neighborhoods.
Thank you so much.
Can you go back to the, the very beginning fly.
No.
Okay. I'll just ask questions. So
Being you?
Being your current company. What is the? You are you a
certified in me?
What?
What were?
What was?
What was the question? I'm sorry. Are you a certified in
the accompany? What is your current makeup of employees
employees about 80 to 100. Trace Mann Jr, company I'm
sorry, racial makeup.
What?
What is my makeup? 90 + 90 + 4?
Black. Hispanic Asian.
Well.
well, we have a combination of Hispanic and black, I
wouldn't be able to tell you the exact numbers, but we have
a
Unaccompanied is mostly Hispanic. But we have. We do have
our diverse group of individuals from all. Can you can you
provide that you're the breakup of your company Through The
Chair by by city council?
The Break-Up.
Hello, good afternoon. My name is Erica Vasquez. I am the
CEO of owner of to work construction and owner of the
property on which this is being issued Integrity, is
actually Lisa to a Toro construction for this property to
our construction is mostly a Hispanic I want to say maybe
ninety 95%, I can get you a break down if you need to see
that but it is mostly Hispanic. Can you please provide that
to the chair so far? We've you, it is noted, and in
chairman Villegas, and I am with these tax incentives. We
put the ordinance in place where you have to adhere to the
26th and 6. So I look forward to you guys making that. But
considering, you guys are predominantly, Hispanic, I'm
wondering how you going to break that up, because that is a
predominantly black neighborhood.
So we will.
So, we would like to see
That spread out a little bit. What we're trying to do here.
We recently landed a very interesting project called we'll
go square and we propose to hire as many of the community
hires that were required for the project to be brought to
the factory because it's a less exposure to injuries. We're
trying to work with iPhone.
Job.
Job and older workshop and development, companies to help
us bring more development. There is all the help. They have
less exposure to the field when sometimes our workers or
the community workers or another. That explains to work in
the field. That's what we're trying to do with your not. If
I were to know the developers to reward development and
diversified much more, okay and I'm sure you'll be work
with a ottoman Mosley on on on that. Okay. Thank you.
Something for clarification earlier you said they're your
statement about this will be done by 8 unions that like
union jobs is that correct? Carpenters Union, because they
offer a great benefit that package help her invention and
about the best route for us to to expand and over and I
talked you into the workers to come and join us. It's a
lower wage rate that we pay there, but it still pays its
phase, rho, prevailing wages. Straits. Perfect want to add
that to our construction is, of course, a carpenter's union
company. And the exciting part about integrity is that in
signing with the Union while it's a different rate because
it's a manufacturing company, they have access to all of
the training to all of it. The same training as the
Carpenters do. They can go to any clue.
I said they want.
They want all these classes are free. They're completely
open to them and just a little background on us. That's how
we started. He started in a manufacturing plant making
minimum wage, he was offered the carpenters union and
that's how he took classes in order, to prepare himself to
open this construction company. So this is honestly opening
up a world of training to all of our employees.
Thank.
Thank you. I saw on the on the drawings that there's a rail
line right next door to that facility. Is there a Spur
there? Do you anticipate utilizing a trail to to export
some of your goods to other places? Or is that just a line
that's not existing anymore? Go to the main goal is to get
out of those poor, it takes time. It's always the main goal
to bring a director supplies from from the rail. Right now,
we like to, if you were able to become the Amazon, the wall
panels, I will call it in right behind us. That is vacant
lot live, so we can get to 111th Street, which is a nice
truck route. The main goal is to continue growing including
the building for Chicago. I appreciate that. Thank you and
I would just add that.
I'm very familiar.
I'm very familiar with so-called Robin and, and Lewis, and
the work that they've done and they're one of the one of
the only MPE manufacturers of these types of Bob walls in
Illinois. So, they're constantly competing against Indiana
Wisconsin, which are right-to-work states, which put some
really at a disadvantage and we should be looking as a body
to make sure that is language in there. Talks about
Chicago, first making sure that we're taking into
consideration. Those manufacturers that are headquartered
here, they're paying taxes here and giving them some type
of a leg up so that we can continue to recirculate those
dollars within the city of Chicago.
My.
Meister Mosley.
I want.
I want to First say thank you for helping Brandon technique
of being made in 21 you all are unique business. That
provides a service that a product that's not readily
available by throughout the city. So there for your help
and not just Revitalize the 21st Ward, you helping to
revitalize our city and even our country I'm proud to have
you in the twenty-first floor and as we talked about
Redevelopment for my ward and folks from our war
participating to have a world-class shining example right
here blocks away or steps away from folks front doors. I'm
excited about that partnership and how we grow this base of
21st Ward again doing this work, helping our city.
Open, are we?
Helping our war throught. So thank you. Thank you. Thank
you. Bye. And I wouldn't, I would like to just Echo that I
should not act like a size that it's important that
Integrity Wall Works closely with the local Alderman to
make sure that as a job opportunities come up, that they're
provided an opportunity. Especially when you talking about
training people, we know that the story clearly The
Building Trades haven't been as diverse just this is a
perfect example, located, in the south side of the city to
vert Diversified at work for. So when those opportunities
come up I would encourage you to work with vice-chairman.
Mostly we had other any other questions from or comments
from the committee.
Signal questions. We had a motion for recommended passing.
This item of the same role called was applied systems Coram
album, incardona made that move hearing, no objections to
order to do pass, recommendation, be reported out at the
next city, council meeting when you get an opportunity,
could you send me the breakdown of the workforce? So that
way, I can send it to all the women. Thank you. Thank you.
Thanks. Thanks. Vice-chairman is well, and told members
also, deterrence, and Antoinette. Really appreciate your
help answer. Who are you sir?
alright, thank
Alright, thank you. I don't 15 on the agenda is an
ordinance to approve the issuance of a class L tax
incentive for property located at 500 North LaSalle Drive,
the LaSalle LaSalle Street cable car, Power House in the
42nd Ward Cavallo architect for, in historic preservation
division of the Department of planning developments here.
To present in support of the item will be available to
answer any questions.
Addition.
Additionally, members of the development team are available
to answer questions, the applicant representative jay-jay
versus financial analyst, Ralph kinsella in the attorney,
the attorney Tyler Manic and I would be remiss if I, if I
did not identify the the, our former colleague, former
Alderman of the 36th Ward, former chairman of zoning
alderman for Robin William Banks is in the audience as
well.
Thank you, German Vegas and members of the committee for
the record. My name is dionna, I'm with the Department of
Planning and Development. The ordinance. Before you is in
support of a class out property tax incentive for 500.
North LaSalle located on the corner of LaSalle and Illinois
Street. The building was designated a Chicago Landmark on
June 27th. 2001 as you know, the class I'll property tax
incentive is a
Best.
Special real estate.
Special real estate tax assessment classification adopted by
the Cook County to encourage preservation and
Rehabilitation of landmark buildings. The proposed project
is to rehabilitate. The former LaSalle Street cable car
Power House for a new restaurant. Use the new tenant will
be Hawksmoor Steakhouse, which is a london-based
restaurant.
the exterior work includes window, repairs as needed, a new
roof membrane and spot masonry repairs cleaning, and
tuckpointing the lower 24in of brick at the base of the
building are the areas in greatest need of repair and
tuckpointing
not.
Non historic ground-floor storefronts are proposed to be
altered with new double doors, sidelights and transom
Windows over the main entrance on LaSalle Street on
existing box style. Marquis will be redesigned as a more
compatible, canopy a vertical blade. Sign on Illinois,
Street will be removed and the anchor points, repaired
The entire scope of work includes structural repairs
elevator, and Ada improvements, and repairs to the
building's metal staircase. And railings, mechanical,
electrical, plumbing and Fire Protection Systems will be
upgraded. The tenant build-out will be executed by
hawksmore and will it consists of new partition walls, milk
Millwork and finishes.
When?
When completed the pastel project will comply with the
sustainable policy requirements, the class L improvements
are estimated to be completed by May of 2020 for the
minimum investment required for eligibility for the class.
L is about 2.2 million. The owner will be spending 3.7
million in class L qualifying Rehabilitation expenses as
part of the project total project cost for the project are
8.6 million that includes 10 and funded improvements of
approximately 4.5 million.
Deep.
Dpd has estimated the total tax abatement of the applicant.
Over the 12 years of the incentive is about 2 million,
which is 1.6 million, Net Present Value. The city is Gerald
that tax abatement is estimated at $484,000 362 Net Present
Value during the twelve years that the class I was in
place. The property is estimated to generate approximately
$54,293 more in taxes than if the building had not been
rehabilitated. After the class L. Annual taxes. For the
property, are estimated to be $362,000 or two hundred, and
two thousand more than if the building were not, we have
Billet, ated, it isn't it anticipated. The project will
create 145 permanent jobs, when the
In building is reactive a.
In building is reactivated to qualify for the class, sell
the city council must have poured granting, the incentive,
the commission on Chicago landmarks as review, the budget
and scope of work for the project and along with the
Department of Planning and Development recommends approval
and as mentioned by representatives of the applicant are
here to answer any questions. Thank you.
Thank.
Thank you. These are old, and Riley, has submitted a letter
of support. For this project. Are they any questions or
comments were members of the committee?
Ottoman Mitchell. As I always do. The company it. Do we
have ownership of the company?
Tyler manic attorney for the ownership.
Would you like to speak with the owner? You know, I'm just
whoever can answer the questions I like, I like to know
what the makeup of the current company
Remind.
Remember how we supposed and point?
so,
The owner.
the owner of property is j.j. versus he's doing the work
here. The tenant is going to be hawksmore, which is a
london-based steakhouse. They have one other location in
New York City. They're opening their second location in the
United States in Chicago, as of right now, they don't have
any employees for this location. However, when they open as
a chair or Jean to mention, they anticipate having 160
permanent jobs in another 20 managerial jobs, and they're
going to
Have.
Have a higher, they're hiring strategy to reach out to the
local Chambers of Commerce, local technical schools, local
community colleges and high schools to hire within them and
work with Alderman, Riley on the local hiring strategy. So
as of right now, they don't have any employees but we did
submit to the chairman as far as the work done to bring
under the class. L that we while it's not a requirement, we
voluntarily reached out to the m, b e, w bees, include them
in the contract and the contractor list, and the list that
we sent to the committee, has,
I want.
I want to stay at least a thousand different subcontractor,
mbwb, subcontractors that are currently engaged in the
bidding process for this project, okay? Thank you. Thank
you for the information. So if the bidding process and
don't know, no contracts have been awarded to this point.
There's only been a roofer, but that's an m b. E w, b
roofer. Okay.
Okay, so the empty and you have not practicing all union
job and it's and it's getting run through the tenants
general contractor. And they, in the list of the bidding
are the NBA WNBA trades and contractors are have been
submitted. All right, my sales don't require the mwp
participation. So I think that's something that you and I
can work on with our colleagues in the county. Let them
know that when there's opportunities that they should at
least include language is under demonstrate good. Faith
efforts in. Okay and just give you a little history, you
know we 1/3 is 1/3 and the city is broken on 23.
And we lie.
and we like some,
And we, like, since we're getting up tax incentives, that
cost us money, we like to know who's participating in the
upside of about of our project. So we want a good
representation of our city on our projects when we, when
we're giving up.
At.
Apps. Absolutely, I've missed. And mr. Chairman has
emphasized that to us all through this process that
committed to it. Okay, thank you for cuz I thought. I
thought he was giving you slipping a little prior to these
meetings. We always meet every meeting to talk about
exactly what you're talkin about. You and I share that same
passion for making sure that there's adversity with a
Contracting pool to work for 6. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you so much all the time, questions, or comments
remembers?
I prefer.
Before you make a Move Motion, I like to recognize aluminum
Terrace in 1440.
See.
Seeing hearing note signal hands raised for any other
questions or comments may have a motion to recommend pass
of this item by the same rule call as would apply to
establish quorum.
I'm
Harman Kardon some moves, you know, directions to order to
do pass recommendation be reported out the next city
council meeting. Thank you, I am 18 on the agenda is a
report follow up on the call. The budget director, to Issue
request relevant technology, sectors for information to
identify potential efficiencies in the city's technology
system, and processes and potential Revenue sources. This
is an update on the Garner report, a little history for
some of the newer members.
Twin.
20 + 2021.
This.
This committee passed a resolution, requiring the city to
do an IT assessment in 2021 to 2020, rather the city also
passed a capital bill which included a $350 for it
upgrades. And so the body has done the hard part and
identifying a funding.
Get.
Getting the administration of hire, a consultant, to
develop a blueprint. Now, we're just waiting for both the
blueprint and implementation of this, it plan to come into
play. So, that way we can do two things. Number one, we can
deliver Services quickly and more efficient and also save
money for the taxpayers. Which in turn allows us to have a
little easier budget. The past the thoroughly. I should
say, the third thing. Also, it allows for businesses to
open up quicker cuz we're we're modernizing the way that
businesses will operate with government which in turn
allows them to open up quicker, which in turn creates
Revenue, which the city needs. So we have today, the tested
except senior managing partner, with Gartner Consulting,
who will provide the update on the garden report.
Are you?
Enchantment and and thank you also for your dealership with
with technology and and determining how technology can best
serve the needs of Chicago and not as well as saving money
for Chicago, on Saturday. Love to highlight of field are
our observations upon.
Is that are known for its independent and objective is to
Industries all over the world and and inlets are our Forte
Chicago Beef engaged in three distinct initiative since
2020. The first one was supposed to do the assessment
understand the current state of technology in the city. How
do we how do we make make improvements to have things done
today to watch. They should be done the future. We also can
but we also conducted a survey of Chicago city wide serve
across all neighborhoods, to understand how residents of
using technology and how they desire to use technology in
accessing Social Services on existing city services and the
last one was providing support to the city. As they went
about implementing some of the recommendations that we made
and the focus of our tickets today at my briefing today is
to provide an update on what does recommendations for
I think we are going to Nation government design, in
stand-up, developing the roadmap to success to replace the
Legacy systems. Making improvements to data quality, and
then providing dishes services and creating a mobile app.
Conceptualization that compliment each one of them in in
briefly describe what were the problems work. What outcomes
were achieved as well as our recommendations for the city
to to make it possible to the Future.
Eddie.
The outside, I'll say that I'll come to Chicago and is the
North Star.
So if you do care, if you can such as a tree, the leaves of
the tree is what the All-Seeing. That's the outcomes we
want to see online cell service for the rest of us are able
to use the city services as and when they wanted for using
Equitable data-driven policy security. Those policies and
so far it is from so driven automatically buy what we call
the trunk, which is the Departments and how they're all
nice. And then and then does the underlying infrastructure
for the various rules and systems and policies that beat up
those things.
I'll
Artificial car goes in the context of it requires a
transmitter change to how I tease done at the city.
What?
Would be found, is that would be recognized here, is that
the city has made substantial progress in the mediating,
the issues that the doctor report on it by about 2 years
ago. However, are we also to come into the city continued
to drive the momentum in each of these areas to build on
the success of what has been achieved, so that that could
continue to transform how ideas is down to the city and how
the benefits of Technology can be used to drive out going
to Chicago once in those five areas, we have first and
foremost, I am organizing Legacy. I t, I was using Digital
Services. I mention the Chicago restaurants. Use digital
channels like your mobile Apple phones do want to access
city services. I'm going to use that better. How can we
provide the channel better?
create a
Creating a robust evidence around hard, decisions around
technology are made today across the city using, and
advancing the talent for it, and how that can be utilized.
And ultimately, using the data that is being generated to
drive, those decisions is spent on City's operation
functions, such as fnps chips, that you might be better
off. That is used to run a GE Financial systems. 61% of the
city applications are aging adequate replacement and I'm
not meeting the needs, they were built on the kids.
LGB.
LG Becca has since you don't have that much but improvements
are available now than they were when those sympathetic
laundromat.
Text.
The expense required to maintain these systems is a lot and
if they could be replaced with newer more efficient
systems, there's a savings that could be generated right
away that in many ways can pay for the cell, are they
lesson that is acquired can pay for itself through the
tactics?
The biggest challenge because there are so many substances.
Where do we start? So, inspector, were people able to
achieve in the first and foremost was arrived at a
consensus basis across all departments to understand. The
place to start is around the systems that manages your
people, that is HR manager of money that has been answering
budget and and how to buy goods and services procurement
those three things together. Comprise what it's called Erp.
Once we hadn't fired that was a priority then applied
Gartner's expertise and knowledge about the space to help
the city rapidly, deploy the approach to select the Erp
vendors. The software the software that could replace, that
could replace the existing systems of a chance that we used
to the process to do this. But typically takes years to do
this in about two months, roughly nine to ten months into
the city.
Send.
send a
What time does still going to negotiations. So it's not
final but that has still has a significant Savings in time
that the same, what would that be able to realize for the
State student? Now, identified the implementers to help
actually implement the system. The savings are not realize
until the system is implemented an incident. That occurred
again next time. Don't sit existing system called Banner
that is used today for water bearing Services, roughly
billion. Plus, in Revenue was generated through that. And
this is my assistant that expensive to maintain and the
rest of the city and I would rather come in from the car to
The Spectator. The city should take a, take a shower to
start modernizing its existing system with a better more
robust system that can make the necessary in the future.
Movie.
Moving to Digital Services. As I mentioned, digital
channels are the most require channels. If you imagine any
Resident looking to access. 37 says, they have a few places
that they can go to, they can go to the alderman offices,
they can go come to the city hall and therefore the kiosk.
What, what is even better is to access them through their
mobile phones today. Mobile phones are available to many
residents, probably all of them and not all the services
are available. So how could that be made better? He does
have lots of technology that they have better than the bus.
Better.
Where is the Chicago digital open? Data portal, the shot 311
app. They could be used as a channel to get more services
available to Chicago.
We helped identify use cases to make advancements to the
existing strategy of an app to make more services.
Available through them BBC work with the city by the use
cases and then divided / side as though those have to bring
them up there. Not sure I believe I'm going to a staunch to
pick me up this year which is one of the major enhancements
and recent pasta.
We all.
We all set.
We also created a dish is having his baby book that enables
Bay, area's residents and departments and bottle ecosystem
to to provide services. It create digital channels in a
comprehensive, a fashion that enables similar outcomes, a
simpler solution development for for those Services across
the board would be to continue to build on the shuttle and
use the pot legal system to create new social new services,
and make more security services available to do so and it's
the channels.
Move.
Moving.
Moving to a division and Providence, the city. Lacks a
unified approach to how i t Investments are made in many.
Departments can choose, and do choose to make investments
on their own on what the respective areas are in that helps
to extend to get the energy it needs. But it comes at the
cost of a comprehensive buying strategy where you can use
the power of the city to get better terms as well as crate
standards that enabled the interpretation. For once.
Listen, to talk to another system in an EZ Pass.
That effective governance requires to help remedy a silo
technology Investments and resource-sharing across the
city.
Alpha.
I don't find this, we helped create what we call a new
strategic plan in governance process, which includes an IT
Governors, Charter, a technology strategy group, comprising
of the representations from the the mayor's office in front
of the Departments, including day is CIO representatives to
help identify and start reading
Up of the toddler, way of understanding, how technology can
be buried flies, and bringing the different departments
together. In Lake in Utah, County decisions. We help
operationalize this and they have representation from
Monday night City departments that the issue of cell phone
prices from for City Department of buildings that are
coming together.
Come by.
Combined together to create a steady b, i d strategy, which
is the publicly available. Now on the cities outside of
courses for the rest of the accounting services, another
Douglas bodies to start implementing the strategy that they
have been south of Love. Are the conditions of future
actions would be forced to use the city council to use and
bring together the thoughtful decision making around how
technology Investments are being made across the city using
participation as an advisory Council to record regular
presentations to the dress up, but that's what we got the
mechanism. Also enables increasing Outreach in alignment
with City departments through using technology behind the
scenes. For making sure that the Investments have been made
are done with the with the goal for future growth, as well
as you're using, using the long-term Vision to transform
while also using the resources available.
this is,
This in a quick fashion.
We wanted.
Moving on to the 4th of the five recommendations here and
is it on our calendar. Nazarian? The IT staffing levels of
the organization structure at the city of Chicago, Lock the
groceries
The position.
The positions are outdated and then feed the city's ability
to retain and attract Talent.
Eva.
Even.
Even with many crowns does the Chicago City staff's Retros,
all the Departments, the city's IP comprise about 1.1% of
the total Workforce, compared about 3.6% at the largest
cities that the third of the city's IT staff is nearing
retirement. And so when they do retired, they will take the
knowledge with them. And that's a significant source of
rest of the city. Also means that the Chicago registration
Reliance on vendors to do a lot of the work with managing
in to save assistance.
It is reported that City much are its vendor management
capabilities, to leverage the vendors come in the community
better.
Do.
Together with the sitv helped Define and reorganize
essential. It Department. Create a new organization
structure has a new Department, New titles that better
lines with the sitting position. I think I'll go with the
city council approved, the hiring of additional staff in
the last budget and until we also helped develop of a
Playbook to make sure that as the employees come together.
Did you find out on Thursday? They can see themselves. They
can invest in their own growth in the future and not be
Define that you're not. Have you look like I just feel like
I need to go to a recommendation for future action, is to
continue working.
HR.
HR department in Eunice.
HR department in unions to refresh this position titles and
an enclosure open opportunities to the city ID, South South
Carolina's. Only way I see it is well, as well as higher
new new positions that may have been because of all the
Box, have any positions is not as it's not that good. If
you don't have people to fill into that, I do that because
it charge and of course you do Michelle, defended
management capabilities to drive the increased value from
Outsourcing. She has a lot of binders. I think it would be
hard to City to hire and stopped up themselves, but they
can use them in this battle.
And the last one here is around 8, and it's a complaint for
across all departments with me today. It has been 2 years
ago. 3 years ago, that they don't get access to the data
that city is connecting and ended lot of a piece because of
the systems are just not set up to, to label that others
are regulations, as well as the lack of cooperation. We
also need to find the quality of a suspect and so the way
we approach this was to analyze a typewriter report. So I
can type of the city to assess the quality of data. And in
that process, helped train, the city to be stuff to be able
to qualify and create assessment of the data quality in the
future. For many, thousands of reports that perhaps I used
to elect
Play.
Provide official documentation. He provided Fishing Charter
Communications to help to improve their Quality Inn in a
sharing approaches the governor's that we have established
that I mentioned before. Can we apply ice to help? Bring
more collaboration in datasheet view? Crossing Apartments
in creating the position to lead approaches to make sure
that all the way. That is being generated can be used
effectively in the ER. Malaysian is one major project at 4
or data, quality improvements Adidas and improvements. I
think once that is done we wouldn't reach the city to use
that as an exam to extend the the standards of the other.
Not really appreciate this as well.
and,
And in that is the conclusion of the audio of the five
steps. If you took so far, I have five. Major groupings
will be able to accomplish a whole lot more in the last
two. Roughly one year of making those recommendations on
the BR really thankful and hopeful that the city will be
able to use this in the future as well. And then extend
these changes sport Ranger transmission for technology in
the city. Thank you, agent. Are there any questions from
the members?
Thank.
Thank you for this. Great Oregon, briefing. I just have a
quick question, as a relates to the use of technology and
Innovation coming from working for the state. I know
there's a lot of restrictions as it relates to technology
apps and so forth. That may not have been approved by the
state's it department and moving in this direction. Should
we expect that to happen along the city will there be apps
programming software that will be off limits or not
available to offices?
I am not the bed, and I don't think they would be many
restrictions about certain technology that cannot be used
to be actually happened to also be supporting the state and
in some of the work that they are doing, and I think the
pickers restriction, if you will, would be around
cybersecurity little things, and it should also be the
case. And I'm sure of the disease of the city also is quite
right knowledge, but I'm going to make sure that we don't
create new applications that exposed to these data to Bad
actors. But beyond that, I don't think that there should be
a challenge to a timer. Thank you.
I know questions from the members.
I'm going.
I'm going to Sparta Manhattan where I really appreciate the
presentations were a couple quick questions, so very
notably back and I believe it was 2019, could have been
2020, be folded. Our IT department in with the former
sleeping facility management. Can you talk about in? This
is only in your professional opinion, doesn't hamper us not
to have a separate it department and if it does given our
current government structure, how do we overcome any kind
of professional and depth deficits from not having an IT
department?
I need.
I think that that was it was a lot of observations on that
even when we do in the study and in the report that we
created back in, 2020 are colored, was it important that
the central it department has seemed to have the authority
to make people liable to follow the advice. Whether
instructor in Authority, can be seen only two drivers, by
Christina sepper Department, then that should be the case.
But that's, that's not a necessary and sufficient condition
and then the more important than mission is to have the
right auricle the operating model. So however, descent
Light District,
Concerts.
Concerts in North Carolina department hours and play
destruction. They should have the capability to support the
needs of other users of Technology across the across the
city of Destruction standards. Making sure the status of
being followed be able to go. Don't go to hold the
Department's liable for accountable for making decisions
that are contrary to the standards. If a game that can be
only done two having a department that not make sense. If
that could be done elsewhere. That's also a piece but as
well as theirs. So I don't have an opinion one way or the
other but it is not about is the right. It's already
available for Central. I d n. Do they have the capability
to exercise that Authority in the power vested in the
central structure? I really appreciate that.
This is them are Utility Billing software. I think we just
had a discussion about that that we did have a discussion
about that and it is on and it's worth following up on sir.
Your point. And again, this is slide prepared for today. So
you start developing a strategy to replace the banner
system B by your understanding. We have not started to
develop a strategy to my knowledge, we have not supported
the city on
and the
And therefore, I do not know if the city has a strategy or
not but but if they don't delay definition, have a
strategy. If they do then great day know, that should be
implemented. Appreciate that. You're your critique of it is
on point with the feedback that we've also heard from the
last couple years. So thank you so much. Thank you care.
You know, that I've been an advocate for separating it from
Fleet facility management, even joking that there's a
department that was created that dealt with Vehicles
facilities and then I T. And so when you call that
department asking for Windows, like what are you talkin
about? Are you talkin about the application? Are you
talking about him car window? 36 by 24? Like what is it? So
I think that is a city. One of the top 10 cities without
it, separated, Innovation and Technology, separated really
doesn't send out the right signal. And I think that as
we're looking as a city,
To grow our population. In a sector that is right for
growth that we should be signaling to the IT world that
were open for business and that we want Google's in sales
forces and all these other firms to come here because of
the talent. And so I've already expressed my interest in
separating that in 2024 budget. Given that the
administration started in May and but it's coming up. I
wanted to make sure they had a long enough Runway to do
that and so I
Tell you.
tell you that, if this
tell you that if this body wants to help push on those
efforts love the assistance cuz I think it's important that
do it Department of innovation and Technology to separate
and had that Authority necessary because in one of the
slide that talks about the millions of dollars in savings,
I can't.
I can tell you that in talking with it firms, it's hundreds
of millions of dollars. And we're talkin about property
taxes, that could be avoided by utilizing efficiencies with
the revenue that we currently have. And so that's something
that we need to, really, hold government accountable for a
further to say, to that. It has been shared with me from
external stakeholders that we, we also, as we talked about
attracting talent to this work week, we have our ability to
do that when we don't have a department because it does
signal. As you said, we do not take this work, seriously
enough to create a standing Department. I appreciate that,
and I would say that since I myself took over this
committee, like, we signaled to the it folks that we want
to support you because it's toric Lee the commissioner of
it.
They?
They were not true.
They were not charged.
They were not charged with any Innovation and more about
Hays. Or are you getting your emails? Is your iPad, working
your phone working, good, technology is up-and-running, I
think that we need to read. Imagine how technology can be
helpful for both of his stitches but also getting business
is up-and-running quicker. Thank you all and you today and
I totally agree the separation, it stand alone in this
current in his current state and we do know all of the
problems that we're facing if you can get the grade as
being back to school energy, 8th wife, what do you, what do
you, what do you assess and then secondly in a perfect
world? Similar to a used car, right? Light is still runs
well, since this it seems to be a lot of outdated stuff and
some things I miss. Mark, what could be a right now? I hate
to see a patch job that can really
Begin.
Begin to start the improvements. Needed to be more
efficient and interfacing with residents. I mean will
Chicagoans as well as internally as well. I would prefer I
would refrain from giving her a letter grade right now
because it's it's definitely not a while but it's also know
that because they can't you just work is somewhere
in-between. Not sure where it is exactly as we can get put
some gauges and mg have but we have died in in all of her
boards.
Do you have?
Do you have a question about it works? I think it looks on a
Barely, There is a lot of passion that has been done. Think
the reason ideas the way it is because historically
Deep Impact.
Deep impression would have been out of the investment.
Would I be on a shiny? Shiny new project? It's about right
now is generative is the best launcher, genitive
initiative. And I talked about that little bit, that's
great, gets all the interest and excitement, but then the
hard job of making sure that the data standards as
structured. You have the right architecture, the
applications don't talk to each other is what I call a
spaghetti mess. Instead they talk through a hub-and-spoke
model with a date as being transferred to a single source
and then be disputed the API model. All of those
Investments have not been done in the past because of the
situation is the way it is today.
Text.
Text Ben historical mismanagement, which has allowed
technology to be where it is at this point. I think that is
an opportunity, but all of your support and and be the
focus studying, the station has on making technology work
better, but that needs to be at the fundamentals about
making sure that the roads are structured properly, the
foundation of the building is set up so that the traffic to
run smoothly. So far, we've been focusing on the traffic
part. Do you know, having the shiny new cars? But not
Call infrastructure. Nothing.
On the infrastructure and I think that's what needs to
change. Thank you.
Aruba Cruise.
Call.
Well, I have, you know, my previous employment history, I
have work for institutions that have technology up to part
and also happen, but it makes a huge difference. When you
have a strong, it infrastructure, it makes it much faster,
more convenient and you're again you're more successful.
What you doing? So thank you for doing this, and in all of
the idea to create a hub to centralize all the it systems,
it will be just great to go to one portal and click and
different items that we all need to work on instead of
their friend have to want to say it. Won't it one way or
the other could be beneficial. But something that they
brought to my attention just like all the rent a spot at
was the banner infrastructure with the Department. I think
that's where you got me. I was like, oh my goodness, this
will be great to solve the issues that will be having with,
you know, we just talked about how some are constituents
their water bills.
Have Skype.
Have skyrocketed, you know, Eva not twice a triple the
amount of they have him pain. So this will be definitely a
key component to probably solve the problem. We want to
stay with this but my question to you is what you know,
walk me through the time frame to implement something like
this at a city level with different infrastructures
different Avenues. What will be a time frame that the day
that will be implemented and be successful technology? Like
this banner? I think that's one word about your overall
system. So you talk about modernizing. I think
The.
This.
The city needs to look at its processes all together. So
it's not just changing from one structure to another
structure but how the structures being utilized that
becomes important. And that takes a long time because, you
know, I'm City employee. So used to doing things a certain
way. If you ask them to save things differently than the
question would be, why low all the way it is? Always well
to change. My attitude is critical Wendy world doing the
demonstrations for Erp vendors. A lot of the questions that
are evaluators the city value of his ass was about what I
do. Things said in a bacon in person this week and the new
system do it the exact same way. I wanted it to
answer the
Incident becomes important for the vendors and for the
leadership of the city and then supposed to ask a question,
why did you head this way? And to be able to arrive at how
should, how should things be done to do it the right way?
The motivation where I say this because that is the harder
longer effort than just implementing a new system.
Is a?
And so have to go back and say how many years is going to
take five or six years at the very least to start seeing
the benefits for grp estimate, was about three to four to
five years, to replace with the existing to the new system.
That would be about the same. Those two between them will
account for significance, set of existing systems. But not
all of them lady, I'm setting, you know that if he created
back in two years ago, Corvallis 7 year transformation
Journey,
and the biggest effort that is in the systems because I
mentioned it takes a while to change the system processes
from the old ways to the new edition base. The coding that
they do not have the technical job in here. Take some time,
but then that is an ink pad that should enable and that
would enable the city to then use the assistant newer
Technologies, more efficiently and better to do the
investment of 56 yesterday. Well, result in the future.
Nikki Holloman.
Manhattan, worth and aldermen Mitchell. Thank you, chair.
I'm very excited to have this presentation. Thank you so
much. Can we go back to the tree graphic?
Ever.
Everything that you all said, I act like, I'm very excited
to move the city towards Equity through our infrastructure,
which include ITA. It's the, there was one word in here
LeapFrog, and I suggest that we have a long ways to go to
get there. But what I really appreciate about this graphic
is that the outcomes for Chicago wins? Is the North Star?
on my
Online Self Service, Quick Service delivery Equitable,
data-driven policies, transparency, easy to do business.
With the city. Exactly what you're saying. We have to get
us back to pre-pandemic times, where are economic corridors
were really thriving and make it easier for small
businesses to get online and of course you would ship of
taxes and I'm excited to do this work with this body to
move us forward with these are really historic times and I
don't know what 11 what point do we say you know, all of
our systems are broke.
Start over with.
Start over with the requirement of putting a service at the
top and making sure that Chicago and they're getting what
they need from us. One thing that I do have a question on
is, what is omnichannel? Sorry. If I ever really means
multiple channels all regardless of channel. So if I'm
Chicago on vagina and if I want to access to the services,
I could walk into the city hall. I could call a number 311
or I could go to the Sharks even when I hope I could go to
the website, I can go to a kiosk and I get similar or
identical service to get my questions answered in a very
consistent manner.
Did.
Today, it is not because not everything is available across
all the channels depending on my specific Services. I may
have to come to the city hall. I may be able to go to the
website, the website might look different against the
Chicago standard website. It may not be enough about the
respect of the Channel, having similar access to services,
and it has similar similar experience, when accessing city
services,
That.
That answer again, thank you for your presentation today. If
we just put Equity at the top and making sure that every
Chicago in is getting the service that we need. Then I
think that were going to be okay. Of course I agree I want
to see this happen instantly but to do it. Right is really
important. So to have the requirements up front is really
priority. Thank you. Thank you. Thank this is this is a
very eye-opening presentation in my former life. I worked
with gardener snow at the Mercantile Exchange and we ran
into a situation where we needed to. We want to be a leader
in the technology space. I don't know his decision is made
to totally commit to overhauling. Didn't that work? First
and foremost? Cuz we talked about infrastructure and then
building all our platforms on top
Being.
Being a professional at your level. You know, that's an
extensive dollar amount. And that's one of the things I did
not see in here, I too would love for us to have our it
Department. We need it. It's it's, it's when I wear in the
Stone Age because we we we don't do that. We don't
We don't know.
We don't maintain and blue.
We don't maintain inflection Capital. We hire our we had
vendors all over the place. We don't even have to allow
Network in that. That that puts us in the position that we
are really need to start from Ground - -2. I don't. So I
wanted to make those comments because I think all of us in
and getting to know the members of city council that we all
want to see what's best for the city. But the big, the big
thing outside of talent acquisition organization is the is
the is the investment. I don't know.
Ice.
I see.
I speculate with a several billion dollar budget that are
it, but it needs to be about a billion dollars.
and we,
And when you asked about time, you said minimum size. Yeah,
that's, that's optimistic, that's really optimistic. Our
infrastructures Antiquated, we can get in at walls if we
wanted to do a whole new infrastructure. We we, we need to
really if we really want to do this, we really have to have
to be, we really are. We really have to be very thoughtful
and willing to take those steps and going into budget
season. And I know we've been working on that talking about
that for a while. To ask is a billion-dollar and I'm
waiting for a real what we are assuming this is two years
ago, prior Smith for it more.
It was.
It was about.
She was about five hundred million roughly for replacing
with the current.
Do.
Do the new rides out. So it might not be a bad idea to cash
it sells. And that's not including the operational expense
about hiding additional people will hate, but then that's
not a billion dollars annually. I think that's all real
time right now. And I believe and I think he mentioned that
the capital of bond was approved was lost. Some money has
been quote-unquote allocated but it's important right now
is to help you utilize that money and start spending it
together. And the other part also is that you mentioned
already, it's going to take five years. Plus, it's going to
take longer if there is no consistent, Focus behind it,
right? So you need to have the leadership to say, I'm going
to do this end and talk fully inconsistency, operate upon
that.
it's
It's about a man who has great looks great on the paper,
but that's when things break down and that information
requires a good operator to see under the ship and
Technology to come in and drive the right things that need
to be driven and do it without. It is probably take longer
than 5 years and older senior.
I'm familiar.
I'm familiar with departments to your point about certain
departments basic out there on IG fonts.
Came to my attention that in one of our departments, they
didn't upgrade it. It was a, it was a system built just for
that department.
The.
The systems were not random parallel. So we lost. We lost
data, we lost information. So, in addition to money to
investment that we would need to make up front that whole
strategy, and how we, how we build, how we roll over
systems, and things that needs to have its own blueprinted.
So based on your experience, what would be, what would be
first US? What would be first. And I'm under the impression
that
First guess, would include.
Multiple objectives bike infrastructure and then Legacy
systems aren't that runs on the obstruction and then why
your your application and then finding out with
applications would be better and then run. And then
Angry.
homegrown versus out the box.
Since I need a ride.
How do you write?
The old-time concert of people process technology. So you
got to have people to run that she got a bill. The ID
capabilities within the city hired, as head of people who
know what they're doing to build up to the capacity, as
well as the capability to different things. You got to do,
got to do that without it. You will be relying on your
vendors. May not always have the same incentives that you
do, right? That's one.
The second one I think is about modernizing applications
and the Applause at 3 to put a city, which I think is right
approach is to not modernize and individual application.
But Martin is a business capabilities capability, just
changes the dynamic. It's not about technology for the sake
of Technologies about. How does technology help the
business that is that departments? And what I said he does
do this job better than reflecting saying about these three
up a 20 application that I could replace them but these
three applications that will do the same job, but do it
better.
Weather in.
We didn't.
Within those. Because a technical question and dependency
to say which one gets first. But then the end goal is to
modernize the business capability all together and not just
the application. If you only focus on the application,
filled out the application in itself be better, but it
doesn't exist with all the other application that needs to
work with. And I think if in the current situation because
all the other application also broken, if I only more time
is my current application, how to make it work with these
existing applications, I will make it less broken but will
still not be able to help the constraints of the other
applications. But if I'm all the set of applications
together, then I could start doing things so that these
older Legacy couldn't go broken applications become part of
comprehensive.
listen to
First and foremost, is the people. The next is that
acknowledgement technology as a business kaper-dale
together and not just one assessment the how we, how we
were able to arrive at Erp as the primary one was because
we looked at the business capabilities and he said, well
which one is the one that has the most impact across the
city? And I received the position such as benign as a child
to kill men, came up. Let me know. No prizes for guessing
why they they affect everybody, and they were also costing
a lot of money to the city today and the.
Meeting.
Meeting minutes.
Dr.
. Then becomes a technology that you said modernizing that
combined with the other two as one night, that a technology
that will have invocation to the dude that monitoring the
data and enabling Addiction Services that are not going to
leave until today because the new replication of the CRP
enable better use of these two sentences example bring back
at this. The people and the business capability through
technology are the two primary drivers of it. Both of the.
Either one of them has, you're not? See if I can go on and
on but I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Once again this is
extremely, this is an extremely opener but I wanted
everybody know what kind of dollars that that it would take
to do this effort that we've been talkin about something
that you just so, you know,
so, we
So we start with that initially.
As.
As we realized savings, we can go in and reinvest those
savings. Into the IT upgrades, the minimize. What do fishes
do or where we doing that? That that has the city spent?
Dollars. I don't know how much.
Dollars. I don't know how much the contract was with
gardener is, but a blueprint blueprints only as good as if,
if we implemented, right? Is having a having a having a
plan and I don't blame any is not a good thing. So, the
first thing in my opinion, you know, there's a CIO position
within the administration Administration hires at
quarterback, so that he, or she can implement it. So, until
we have that position on, it's tough to do that. And that's
that's the other pipe piece. Governments, pay significantly
less tighty professionals. So we'd be hard-pressed to pull
somebody from that with that kind of experience soon. The
last project we recognize that and we did some title
changes when he learned a lot about tradition of Revenue,
additional salary increases for these positions because
Auto Mitchell's correct for us to get a top-notch CIO.
When they can go now.
When they can go make half a million in the private sector
million in the private sector stuff to rid of
disadvantaged. But we did increase the salaries for these
positions. And so we're hoping to find someone that wants
to serve the city and then make money after they serve the
city, so we'll see. But you know, there's no way that the
city government going to pay half a million dollars off for
a CIO. We just we just doesn't look right for us to do
that. And I have to see how you do when you are
There's a lot of work and I'm hoping to get this done in
your term for the, for the new Alderman because there are a
lot of cost savings and just so, you know, in 2019 2020. I
formed a working group, but I see professionals covid hit
and put it on pause. We're going to reactivate that working
group and the members of the e, c, d, e, c, t, d committee
are more than more than they can be on the committee of
feel like this is a committee of it firms that are located
in Chicago. Some local, some national that would just talk
about what other cities states and countries are doing
around technology. And then from a legislative perspective,
given some information so that we can put forward
legislation or polished how to change recommendations and
how we want the city to move, you can come in that we that
we continue to press the administration to to get these
things done. Cuz there are dollar, there are savings
attached.
In hundreds of millions of dollars. And so we did as a good
Steward, we need to do that and none of that are
constituents in the business. Has deserved a good idea for
them. So
I need.
Any other questions for many members of the questions or
comments. All right, seeing that. There's no other
questions. We have a motion to adjourn.
Vice-chair Mosley, so moved out, just for the record will
be having another committee meeting on Tuesday at 1:30.
That notice will be going out. It's in between zoning and
budget. We have a couple of deferred matters that we have
to deal with. So we'll have that window to bring up one or
two items so that we can get a pass. All right, thank you.
Have a great day, everyone.