LabCorp.
All right, good morning everyone. The meeting of the
committee on economic capital technology developments call
to order. You would not have a roll call to establish
Quorum. Please note that your, your present response will
be deemed a. Yes, vote. When this Quorum calls use as a
reference, for, for later, votes, Miss Phillips, please
call the roll.
Turn.
German Villegas vice-chair mostly
Alderman of Espada Alderman Hall.
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Alderman Mitchell.
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Alderman Mitchell.
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Alderman, Chico.
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Alderwoman Gutierrez.
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Alderman Lopez.
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Alderwoman Tabares.
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German, we have 12 present in German. We have a quorum
I'm
I bet if
I've been informed that we have one person signed up for
public comment within the applicable, provisions of the
Sergeant at Arms.
We were.
We will have our first presenter, which is mr. George
Blakemore.
The wrong.
The wrong with this, and you only have one public speaker,
you all are being appointed to the SSA. It's just another
dog and pony show at a theme. What is the average citizen
about the SSA? I asked one of these young men that's going
to be a partial Day deal with the the business. I think how
much money set aside for the SSA and who and who fired the
SSA work the streets and sand. Do did you know that you're
being taxed by the citizens?
Buy milk in the area is nothing but another dog and pony
show nothing. If it's bad public policy in Baltimore,
If?
It's been going on and who control high-security. Why would
you do that when you already got this.
Another dog and pony show. This is disgraceful.
Unprofessional illegal.
Best.
That's why they want to challenge Mr. Blakemore, come on
bro.
Richard, you work for Michelle. I'm the only one here.
Representing the black community is the community of a
public speaker.
Thank.
Thank you, mr. Blackwood
The.
The first order of business is approval of the June 2023,
monthly report, which all members of the committee should
have received, are they any questions or comments regarding
the report by the members of the committee?
We have.
We have a motion to recommend approval of the 2023. Monthly
report, by the same roll call vote as applied to determine
corn.
Alderman Lopez to lose him know, Jack has to order, please
add Alderman guitarist of an anti-virus not on the
committee. Alderman, Yancey and Alderman Vasquez in
attendance.
I'll take this list and
bipa following atoms will be.
What's?
The following item will be deferred pending additional
automatic review and support.
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Item one.
At 1 on the agenda will be deferred.
Item.
items, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19,
Betta.
Biddeford, you know, Jackson store ordered, they have a
motion to defer the items by the same roll call vote as
what it was applied to determine corn. Almond, cardoso
moves are no directions to order.
Thank you.
Now we will go through and you're done through a series of
appointments every appointment. Severe special service
areas introduced by Amir Johnson during the June 21-23 City
Council meetings, the following individuals are being
considered before the committee. Three appointments of Paul
Louisa to SSA number 8, Lakeview East commission, located
on, 44th and 46th ward reappointment of Lorraine. J Reef
lycoris Cinema. 16 Greektown Halsted commission, located in
the 34th. Ward reappointment of Eric curse, a to SSA,
number 17, Central Lake Central Lake View commission,
located in the 44th. 46, Wards reappointment of John
buxbaum to SSA number 17, Central Lakeview commission,
located near 44th, and 46th Ward appointment of Xavier
vinegar. SSA number, 22, Andersonville Andersonville
commission, located in the 40th, 47th and 48th towards
reappointment of Steve a quick to SSA number 23, Clark
Street, commissioner
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Clark Street. Lincoln Park commission located in 43rd Ward.
Reappointment of holly la direct SSA number 23. Clark
Street Lincoln Park commission, located on 43rd 43rd Ward,
appointment of Ignacio, Davila. SSA number 26, broad
Broadway, commercial District commission, located in 40,
Reappointment of Lewis Moorhead to SSA. Number 27. West
Lakeview commission located in the 32nd 44th 46 and 47
towards appointment Lindsay Works to SSA number, 29 Dash
2014. Westown commission located in first 27th and 36th
ward reappointment of Benjamin hands at the state of a
35-20 15, Lincoln Avenue commission located in the 43rd
Ward.
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Reappointment of Caroline, shoenberger to SSA number 48.
Old-time commission, located in the 2nd and 27th words.
Appointment of Don Klugman to SSA, number 48, Old Town
commission, located at 2nd and 27th towards reappointment
of David. A Israel to SSA number 75, Oak Street commission.
Located 42nd Ward appointment of Angela, Taylor to SSA
number 77, West Garfield Park commission located, in a 28.
Ward at this time. Mark, Roshan assistant commissioner with
Department of Planning Development to answer any questions.
There are.
Are there any questions from the members or committee
members?
All right. Signal question, the e c, t d, e c t e c t, e d
team has confirmed the support for non-objection for the
following council members, with the pointment sorry
appointments within their respective impacted Wars ottoman,
ottoman Hopkins, Robinson of the Yancey of Anna. Mitchell
alderwoman Harris, alterman Quinn old woman guitarist,
Alderman, Coleman Auburn, war. On women, Taylor
although,
Although, the baddest on the Baldwin, Burnett Irving
Alderman, Alderman, Conway Villegas Vasquez has been Riley,
Audrey Knutson. Almond, Lawson modeling clay Auburn Martin
Auto in Manahawkin worth.
Most commissioner candidates for unable to appear for
today's meeting. However, I or my staff briefly connected
with them via telephone and I'm supported their
appointments. Love with my colleagues when they're
reappointments at this time, with any of the members of the
committee or counselors like to make a statement or any
questions any questions from the committee.
I've seen.
Artsy, no questions. If any of the appointees are in
attendance to reappoint, he's our descendants. Would you
like to make a statement at this time? Please raise your
hand.
Please.
Please come to the mic and identify yourself, sir.
More.
Morning payment Smith here, representing ssa-42. I wanted
to personally come in and introduce myself and learn more.
I've been involved with the South Shore Chamber of Commerce
for over 7 years. I've been inactive a real estate
professional and and around the ward I'm ready to take that
next step. After being a part of work done, within the
South Shore, Chamber of Commerce. Served as storefront
business activation program manager that you know, which
has subsidiaries of with the program to be ACP lead last
year, and I'm interested in stepping up and doing more
within the district and SSA
Thank.
Thank you. So
Thank you, sir.
and,
Any other appointees are we appoint? He's like to make a
statement. Accepted Mike.
Are.
All right. See no other appointees re appointees may have a
motion to recommend approval, the appointments, every
appointments, for the same roll, call, vote, was applied to
determine Corum. Esparza lose her know directions to
ordered the do pass recommendations of the appointment.
Sorry, appointments will be referred out at the next city
council meeting, appointees and reappointed, congratulation
on your confirmation in partnership with the city. We look
forward to working with you, please add Alderman Mitchell
to the role for Coram.
Really.
Where to go out of order.
and,
And go to item 26 on the agenda. It's a resolution to
approve the issuance of a Class 6 be taxes Center for
property located at 4550, south Packers Avenue in the 15th,
Ward Alderman, Lopez present to comment on this matter.
Thank you for a good morning. I was at the committee asked
for your favorite consideration for this item Thanksgiving.
Are they questions or comments are the members of the
committee?
26.
It was a spider.
I'm
Trying to get a better head on this. I was looking at and
honestly I thought we were going to do the ordinances
first. I was looking at the eligibility requirements for 6
p.m. and the Cook County Assessor's page says, there's
either a new construction be substantial Rehabilitation or
see substantial occupancy of abandoned property. Can you
explain to us which one of those 4550 south Packers is
this is,
This is a renewal of a 6ft that was already granted to this
company and it allows it to continue its operations in the
city of Chicago. While maintaining its presence in Back of
the Yards and its local employment agreements from the
past. Yes, thank you, sir. But I just trying to understand
it based off of what the Cook County assessor's office,
says, or their current ability requirements. Can you talk
us through that? Help me chills eligibility requirements.
Cardona.
Point.
Point information towards alderman.
Daniel Espada the assessor's office is a renewal. We are
going through the process probably 10 or 8 years ago. So
those questions were probably answer that. You're trying to
ask back. So it's just a renewal just basic information and
they have a they have a opportunity and I believe they
already granted them. The 6p. Correct cell theory, branches
on the 60 question. When was when was it granted by the
Assessor's Office?
Do we?
Do we know?
Bronco.
Broccoli year ago a year ago. So once the application to
renew it time clock is a year ago sir. They're already
losing right now. That's why they have to be past here so
they could get their the tax incentive being placed. So
right now this coming through here has who has been passed,
so they could reapply or get the application for for the
incentive.
Auto Spa.
Harkins Park View. I'm trying to have someone who is in
second committee meeting for voting on a Class 6. Be, I'm
only trying to understand it's based off of what I've had
enough to do. That's all
Well that's fine. I'll just write you got to go to your
house cuz he can answer it. That's the associates office
and you could ask for the records of them for the
application.
National Hispanic recognition, and if I may, clarify the
county is already, granted. This this is just a concurrence
by the city council in agreement with the County's decision
to the heart. The heart lift is already been done by the
other side of the building. We just have to agree to it to
move for this company to move forward. As is the case for
every six be, it's on the agenda.
all we
All we have to do as a body, whether it's in the 15th Ward,
the 11th ward are the 14th Ward. As we have others here,
today is to agree with our
El.
Hello. Government agency.
What?
For the issuance of the tax incentive.
Autospa clarification than just for my own edification. Why
aren't you of these being passes ordinances? And one is a
resolution. What is knowing the difference between an
ordinance in resolution? Why, why are we doing? Two of them
is ordinances. And when is a resolution? I'm going to have
dpd answer. That question for DVD, answer, the phone will
spot us question regarding why once a resolution to our
ordinance
That turns.
That Terrance Johnson assis commissioner with a DVD. This
one is being sponsored as a resolution. As you see it was
it was introduced directly by it by all the milk while the
others have been going through a process with DVD and I
come at you as an ordinance from Department of Law.
Call.
Qualitatively, what is the difference between The Binding
power off? An ordinance to the ordinances were considering
have made development agreements attached or what, the two
ordinances that are being introduced, will have
Redevelopment agreement as Alma Lopez mentioned because
this one is a renewal. It will not renew old, does not have
a Redevelopment agreement.
Simple simple. Because as as was mentioned, before the
original
Hippie.
Hippie was past 12 years ago. So now they're at the point
where they're here for the renewal. So the extended for
another 12 years so because of that, the symptoms are
required didn't go into effect till the end of 2024 any
applications after that. So this one is exempt from that
because you knew it was that start out before they are
party to an RDA and it's the property of 4550 south Packers
in process with DVD or what what's the story there? The
Short answer. Yes.
Okay. Alright, I think it turns all Amanda politano.
German on behalf of this number 26 is Alderman Lopez in
favor. This
Lopez.
Post.
Call support. Call me. Then I'm with you and Riley.
Thank.
Thank you, chairman. I have a couple questions of the
sponsor, maybe to help to clarify some points. So, this is
not a new idea, is that right? Alderman Lopez.
Now.
No and I understood that this is already been vetted by the
Department's and nothing significant has changed. Is that
also correct? Nothing is changed from its so,
The city bureaucrats have already vetted this yet, we're
being asked to delay it at a time when we're trying to Spur
economic development in the city of Chicago, am I correct?
The.
This.
This matter is not being deferred, we are approving it
today with the committee's hopeful approval and the
administration also supports this. Now
Yeah.
Yes. Yes. Okay, great. So I was just curious, why would
they were so many questions being laabs? But seems to me,
we should have already approved this, so it has my full
support as well. Thank you charm.
Homeless.
Demi Lovato.
Thank you. I just wanted to speak in support of this. This
was in the 11th word, under the previous boundaries, I'm
familiar with Berkshire. The company that supplied for the
six weeks there, good part of the Stockyards, they employ
local people and I will be in full support of this for the
members. I think I said they had our first meeting is that
in the past the Departments would bring forward these some
of these ordinance, some of these six bees and other
incentives that are available and the deal a whole backlog
of incentives that we're just ready to go. But for whatever
reason, which is being bogged down. And so listen where the
body that ends up voting on these
it's
It's a, we should.
It's a, we should have that ability to hear from planning
hear from her colleagues, as to what actually is going on
this and we and we need to send a message that were open
for business as the city. We're not, the only people that
are competing for businesses here in in the Midwest region
and in. And so we got to make sure that we're getting as
many people as possible and Floyd and keeping as many
businesses here. So that's why you're starting to see a
little bit ordinances are coming from the administration or
this is coming from the actual alderperson is because of
the fact that they actually know what's going on it. So we
want to make sure that we're moving forward and sent us so
that we can we can send that message that we're open for
business.
On the way.
On the rally, be so moved directions to order to do Patrick
Monday. She'll be ported out at the next city council
meeting going back into order.
Go.
Go to item.
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Number 24 on the agenda is an ordinance to approve. The
issuance of a Class 6 be taxes in a property located at
3815 South Ashland Avenue in the 11th. Ward Terrance
Johnson Creek, Michigan, Department of Planning, and
Development here to present and support the item and will
be available to answer any questions and just need some
members of development team are available to answer a
question, can Vern of Charis cold attorney Betsy Gates,
Alfred, and it also Alderman Alderman, leave present to
comment on this matter as well.
Terrence.
What?
Morning, Jeremy Villegas said members of the committee on
economic capital and Technology development for the record.
My name is Josh Johnson assistant commissioner and the
department of Planning and Development. I'm also joined
today by Ken Burns and Keira scholz. A cold investigates
offered a claw. Both representing their development team.
I'm here.
I'm here today to request the approval of an ordinance,
supporting a classic speed tax property. Tax incentive for
KCs icebox Venture. One LLC for the purpose of
constructing, a 96.7 square-foot warehouse at 3815 South
Ashland Avenue
35 is located in the 11th. Ward with, in McKinley Park
Community area, Auto Amanda Cole. Lee has provide a letter
support for the project.
DC.
Do you see an aerial view of the site which is north of
Pershing on Ashland Avenue?
This.
This slide shows the current condition of the site.
Yeah.
The African intends to demasi obsolete structures on the
site and construct, a 97000 square-foot state-of-the-art
cold storage facility to meet Chicago's growing, Cold
Storage demand and they just talked about cold storage
facilities as well as the growth and food. Delivery
services has created an increase in demand for modern food
storage facilities.
The new facility will contain 15. Loading stalls and
parking for 12 trucks at 48 cars. The construction. Is
estimated to be about 12 months while there is currently no
tenant. The RDA requirement GPD approval to any potential
tenant.
The project cost is estimated at 28.3 million and is being
financed primarily with equity and debt.
Just made it to a tax. Savings are 4.1 million and the city
share is 945000. The total estimated net benefit to all
taxing district is 610 million dollars, baby dies in
support of the project that will bring more than 20 million
investment to the McKinley parks in media area. The project
is estimated to create 200 temporary construction, jobs in
25 to 40, new full-time, permanent job requires a developer
to comply with the city standard mbwb, requirements and
closer job, Covenant, Community Development to deliver at
least 25 on going for a job and give dpd approval rights
over potential tenants.
Find.
Final.
Finally, these next two, slides price and renderings of the
completed building.
Thank you.
Thank you for your favorite consideration of this request,
as well as members of the development team are happy to
answer any questions. The committee may have. Thank you.
Thank you. Terrance augment. The virus isn't a question,
but I wanted to be added to as a co-sponsor and item 27.
It's all you talk about the laundry baskets or when it when
it comes up.
Aluminum.
Illuminate.
Thank you Karen. I'm here to speak for the committee's
favorable support of this 6p property tax abatement. This
property has been languishing or couple decades. Now, I
think, at least it's been quite a nice around this corner.
I'm excited about the opportunity. That cares Cold Storage
is bringing to the community. They've shown themselves to
be very amenable and cooperative and collaborative. They
held at least three or four Community meetings. Met with me
several times, taking the feedback from both dpd and the
community making every attempt to try to preserve some of
the the character that building with the building is not in
a condition that where it can be actually preserved and
what I think he peed and the Developers.
I think it's a great.
I think it's a great is a great going to be a great
Improvement to that corner. You saw the the building
renderings they're going to hire local artist to do the
murals on the side of the building because it is a cold
storage building. They were limited in what they're able to
do on the outside. You can't have a black cold storage
building that attract too much sun. So with everything that
was before them I feel strongly that this is going to be
good partner in the community are there. No love for local
artists and we may even find some ways to you know we use
some of the bricks from the building to preserve a little
bit more of that history. So with that I've asked for your
favorable consideration on this on this text babe but thank
you. You compensate or bring incentive to bring rehab and
offline, vacant building and the Redevelopment agreement
concerning the development, concerning the jobs commitment.
Is what gives us enforceability on the class? Speak six be
correct.
This Commission.
This is commissioner correct. Thank you sir. And Dad's
remind the body that about 23 years ago with this
committee, we passed an ordinance sponsored by myself in at
the time by Sherman Mitchell that requires six be
applicants were folks that get the companies I get
incentives to report back on an annual basis to two.
Beauty. And
Kitty and did this committee to ensure that what they're
proposing initially. When we support it, you're actually
living up to their fulfillment. So this August is when
we'll start getting these first reports from some of these
companies, that received incentives to see where they're at
with the construction of mwbe component, neighborhood,
local hiring and then throughout the course of the, the
incentive where the rat with the actual full-time jobs,
that that they've created. So, again, I'm talking to about
accountability and transparency. So, Alderman Lopez,
They?
Thank you. Chairman, I'm happy to support my colleague in
the 11th. Ward on this tax incentive. We've seen a lot of
good work all up and down the Ashland Corridor and I'm glad
they were able to continue to build on that as well as to
your point, the fact that I know all them and Mitchell
myself more and others have for nearly a decade complained
that people come get come after the fact as opposed to, at
the start of this, and make sure that are our values were
being lived as opposed to just talked about. So fully
support this encouraged all the members to do the same and
look forward to sing even more build out on Ashland Avenue
just so long. As you don't take out my favorite Bakery down
the street for a good, many other questions or comments
were members of the committee.
I'll
Baldwin Manor. Hoppenworth I move in support of this
ordinance. Any time that we can incorporate arts and to
development specially. Local artist, I am for that. Thank
you all doing the comments, right signal the questions may
have a motion to recommend passing this item of the same
roll call was applied to establish a quorum or going to
lease or move through no directions. So ordered
I'm
I'll
I do 25 on the agenda has an ordinance to approve the
issuance of a Class 6 tax incentive for property located.
At 4510 West Ann Lurie Place in the 14th Ward Terrance,
Johnson represent this item will be available to answer any
questions. I'll just release some of the members of the
development team are here to answer any questions. John
bolster from sterling sterling Bay vice-president, a can of
beer at Sterling Bay Chief diversity and engagement officer
Christina. Raymond Sterling Bay associate counsel Mark,
Rodgers associate attorney for listing and send Tillis.
Terrence morning Timothy against the members of the
committee on economic capital and Technology development.
For the record. My name is Terrance Johnson. This is
commissioner of the Department of Planning and Development.
I'm also doing today by members of the development team,
I'm here today to request the approval of an ordinance
supporting a classic. Be probably Texas to live but I'll P3
Pulaski 55 owner, LLC for the purpose of constructing, a
1047.
47 +.
47, 1/2 square-foot warehouse at 4510. West Ann Lurie
Place. The project site is located at 4510 West Ann Lurie
Place, which is in the 14th. Ward Envy within the Archer,
Heights community area.
I want.
I want to go to Jerry that provide a letter of support for
the project.
Is.
is an area of the site which is just south of I-55 and
slightly east of South Cicero, Ave
Give.
Here's another aerial perspective, showing the current
conditions of the site.
Jeff intends to clear the project site of the existing
gravel asphalt, lot and construct and Industrial Warehouse
with 20 exterior, loading dock to driving doors with 36 ft
clearance and an outdoor parking lot with approximately 100
202. Parking spaces requires that dpd give approval to any
potential tenant. The construction period is estimated to
be about 12 months.
Rodger.
The project cost is roughly 25 million dollars and is being
financed with 44% equity and 56% debt.
just a
The estimated 12, your text saying, these are 4.7 million
and the city share is just over $1000000. The total
estimated net benefit to all taxing district is 2.86.
Million DVD is in support of this project that will bring
more than 25 million in investment to the southwest region
of the city. The project is estimated to create 200
temporary construction, jobs and 35 new full-time permanent
jobs, require the developer to comply with the city.
Standard in dwb, requirement and closer jobs, Covenant
committing, the developer to deliver to 330 I-35. I'm going
permanent jobs and gives dpd approval rights over potential
tenants,
Finally, here's a rendering of the completed building.
Thank you.
Thank you for your favorite consideration of this request,
as well as members of the development team are happy to
answer any questions. That many may have thank you. All
done with the Terrace.
I met with the developers and I mean people support. As you
can tell, it's an empty lot and we need to create more jobs
and better opportunities for a community. They also create
Nam had a community meeting. The neighbors are not against
the project, they're okay with it and of course we're
always going to support new and better places in our
community development but also the most important having
jobs for our constituents.
The questions.
The questions or comments.
The questions or comments from members of the committee
ottoman Cardona?
Take.
take a
Thank you, chairman. This is what it's all about. The 6p is
giving them a property owners or operator tax incentives.
So they could bring jobs into the community and at the end
of the day it's about jobs in our community and and
providing for families that's basically my take on this.
Thank you because mr. Terence do we know if the developer
has attended already.
They are shots analysis, commissioner DVD. They are
currently looking for a tenant and now, but again, the RTA
does give me a ride to work over tenants. Thank you, Karen.
I just want to quickly add them. I am in full support of
this and congratulate, my colleague on the 14th. Ward. And
also am very familiar with this area, because this used to
be one of the original Cold Storage sites on the southwest
side of Chicago behind the greater Chicago Food depository.
So to see some new life brought to the area, which right
across the street. Actually, if you want some history, you
put that up.
Ariel. All right, so if you look at where that red area is
that at the sight of this location and if you look to the
left, you'll see the railroad tracks. And if you keep
looking to the left, you'll see a bunch of cars. That's an
old junk yard, that is actually one of the original silver
shovel sites.
In case.
In case anyone is curious silver shovel with a bribery
scheme but that is actually one of the locations that the
FBI got the FBI mole got Alderman to illegally dump things
in. So I'm glad to see some positivity coming to that area.
History is wonderful.
Prairie.
Hearing Eau Claire hearing all the questions on a Lopez
makes the motion to approve the item hearing no objections.
So ordered
At what?
at what we're going to go out of order one more time to
Confirm some appointments, Andre appointments to special
service areas. So if you look on your agenda item 15
reappointment of a year,
Building 15.
strike that we're going to continue to prefer those until
we get some aldermanic support for those
cuz,
cuz I,
cuz I was zombie potential candidates are last item on the
agenda is item 27 resolution that calls for the Illinois
General Assembly to allow expanded opportunities for Momoa
participation in hybrid committee meetings and speak on
this resolution. And then throwing a question Speed Racer,
an alderman Vasquez.
Thank.
Thank you.
Are.
All right, good morning. Chairman Villegas Spicer Mosley and
esteemed members of the economic capital and Technology
development committee. Thank you for the opportunity to
speak on this agenda. Item on imported and good and
important. Good government initiative are 2023 Dash 0 0 0,
1 0 8, 5 a resolution calling for the Illinois, General
Assembly to amend the open meetings act to allow for hybrid
committee hearings this resolution currently co-sponsored
by 44 members out of our 50-member Council was drafted and
introduced in response to the lifting of the governor's
executive order allowing for virtual and remote options for
committee hearings during the covid pandemic. The executive
order which was instituted in order to allow for safe
convenience in a time where the stability of government was
necessary. Also created the opportunity for increased
public engagement and accessibility for constituents,
particularly for municipal government, we're neighbors rely
on their elected representatives, not only for legislation,
but for service Management in the districts
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View bill.
The ability to meet remotely provided the opportunity to
innovate how government can deliver for our neighbors, by
allowing each of us, the ability to jump on a public Zoom
call to move legislation forward. While also allowing us to
be on the ground, in our Ward and available to our
constituents in the neighborhood. We serve in person, this
not only increased the accessibility to the elders by their
constituents, but also made her more efficient government
as its save commute time for committee members Witnesses
and the public since joining a meeting with a click away,
as opposed to
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turn the treble up two and a
The travel up to an hour or more to show up. So we could be
a short 15-minute meeting in some instances. Just to waste
another hour of commute from the meeting back to offices or
homes for all who participate hybrid meeting options. Also
increase engagement by the city council as reported by The
Daily Line and WBEZ who report on Alder attendance rate
every term here is what the reporting over the last three
terms show. All the average attendance in the term before
hybrid options were available by the city council members
with 65%. So if you're looking at report card grade 65% was
the average of all the Alders a when it came to their
attendance to committee hearings and other meetings, the
average attendance in the last term with hybrid options
with 86%. So an increase of 21% in attendance and
engagement by the city council as it pertains to committee
hearings. Now, that's just the overall average. The number
of Alders, who got attendance higher than 80% in the two
terms before,
I've
Cyber.
Hybrid options were available were 7 out of 50 members of
the council. Seven of them got more than 80% attendance for
8 years prior to hybrid options, the number of others who
got a 10 is higher than 80% in the last tournament with
hybrid options, 41 out of 50 is on 82%. 82% of the council
was able to be at these readings are in comparison to terms
prior. So a lot of that is pretty just straight-up. When
we're talkin information, we believe that the increased
accessibility efficiency and engagement of government is in
the public interest. And for that, we call upon the
Illinois General Assembly to amend the open meetings act to
create a more Effective Government. We ask for Li can
favorable consideration of the committee and are happy to
answer questions. Thank you.
They?
They can.
They killed me baskets on any questions or comments were
members of the committee.
A little spot.
Spotted in all those reports new thought 80% was the bar to
clear the you know, it's kind of like I'm going to make a
half-baked NFL, it's great and I recognized like 22, big
facts, like fact, number one, I love being in person. I
love all of your faces. I love the dialogue. That happens
back. Number to my commute is a 20-minute bike ride. You
know, that is that's not the same case for
Everybody sitting down this way you like dang it called
when she can you make to get to these meetings Miami hats
already off to you sir. So really, it's sensible is
informed by data, it helps us use our time more
efficiently. The only question is, do we know if there's
already a bill introduced to help us do? Just this, has
there been some time, past kind of disgusted. I think, when
you are our state government, you want to see what the
municipalities feelings are on the matter. So, this is kind
of the first step in that conversation. Make sure the city
council makes it clear that they can also add part of the
conversation should revolve around the EPS district
council's, for example. So because of open meetings act,
they have three per District Council know, two of them are
allowed to speak to each other, which leaves for
ineffective government. And so I think this is an
opportunity for us and prove how it all works. So yeah,
this is like the first step to talk about what we see from
the city standpoint and then be able to engage more with
the general assembly to do so.
Thank you. You have a record, all the month of August
wanted to be added to this to this resolution, otherwise
back. Thanks German. What? I appreciate the effort to move
this forward and I know it's just a resolution. So what I'd
like to see from the state if they're considering, this is
really looking at the substantial reasons for wanting to do
it. And when we looked at the governor's,
Is that?
Disaster.
Disaster Proclamation. That was for a pandemic disaster and
I was a pretty high bar to set. It wasn't practical or
prudent to meet or be physical contagion. That was
happening at the time. A lot of other governments that do
this. And I think I've done it in the past, look at the,
did they look at the localized circumstances and they they
do have statutory findings. They look at that as a
transparency and good governance process you know, in ours
for the open meeting axon 7 be for the state law. A member
must be prevented physically from attending, they have to
have a personal illness or disability employment purposes,
which is within that. But I think for a full-time job that
shouldn't be considered or they could be doing business of
the body and some other location. And then again, have a
personal emergency when you look at other states with a
dude.
Have.
Have typically the same thing, they have absence or illness
disability military service and in each one of those, they
have the site where they are out of the location that
they're at and they're allowed a maximum of two meetings
per year and that's where typically ones under under 10
meetings, but that would be the full body type meeting and
they really put a cap on how many meetings they can do
throughout the year.
It's important to hold.
It's important to hold livestream meetings and to hold
these remote meetings as we did during the disaster, I
think it did allow for a lot more Community participation
and I hope that we can send you that. I feel that the
reason I haven't signed on to it, as I feel, it's a
slippery slope for the reasons that were cited. They
weren't for the the citations that the governor's
declaration made and for many of the other states, you
know, I think I'm being on the ground available to the
constituents has is Meaningful, but it's not part of that.
High bar that was set in the governor's order and many
other Governors having to travel because of the shortness
of meetings is also not a citation that they put in there,
any of them. And I think we're looking at apples and
oranges. When we compare a public disaster, like the covid,
pandemic to what we do on a daily basis. So,
I know this will pass but I would hope that as we have
consideration of any state Direction on this, that we
really set a pretty high bar for that remote parts of
station. And it it's not for the reasons as cited today.
But for these very specific reasons that the governor in
Illinois, how many other states could forward even during a
public disaster? So I appreciate the effort on this.
you know, if
You know, if we'll see what the state does, but I think it's
a slippery slope and we have to be very careful about what
we consider to be those citations for missing a public
meeting on behalf of our constituents. Thank you model, is
it that the committee's themselves and up confused as to
what counts right eye. For example, had surgery to remove a
Cancer and had to write a letter and figure out. What is it
going to be allowed? Where people going to vote on it and
the committee's themselves were kind of really confused as
to what the determination would be side. You understand why
it's place there? I think I'm thinking overall what you get
as far as outcomes and government does it create a
government? That's more, accessible to people. I say, yes,
Jesus make something that increases the engagement of city
council members that you have business in an effective
efficient, mad Manor, yes, I did the concerns about
open in.
Open, this might be concerned. I would see his folks. You
don't have the same access to the internet, right? So if
we're having all these meetings, you have somebody doesn't
have access to government. I think something could be done
to me to the compromises the public space in the ward or a
public libraries to also have the stream of those meetings.
Signing. Any of them were talking about the ability for
someone to be transparent, government have more meetings,
get more of the work done. I think that's kind of the
standpoint but I do think the details do matter and that's
the other conversations to follow the jet.
What time do you figure out what's a good balance? That
allows for transparency Effectiveness. When that abuse?
Admission.
All the Mitchell, you know, I get it in theory, there's a
convenience component to it, but I also think it's
something to be said about being here in person and being
able to engage among us about doing the business. So, I
hope as we move forward and I probably will pass that we
get. Very specific about what we're trying to accomplish
here, and I think something's can be done now that could
that can Aid Us in in, being more efficient, with respect
to come in, for my particular was, it'll knock sensor
coming downtown, which is the chairman get together and
talk about having set times. And dates were specific
meeting. I have two today, I would love to spend one day
down here and have three 4 meeting. And if we could
accomplish something like that, I think that's that's
probably should be our immediate Focus.
You know.
You know, to go, I definitely have concerns about, you know,
going a hundred percent, you know, have any option to go
buy an abuse and still, it's just, it's just frivolous
activity. We have a lot of business to do down here. Now. I
hope that we we we we picked out trying to focus on it and
I don't want not being in person, being able to engage
Among Us just a minute ago and I were able to engage and
talk about something that that affects both of us. So I
want to make sure that as we move for it, that we consider
all those things. And a lot of the things that that that's
what it's like talked about this be very deliberate and
focus about what we want to accomplish it but if we do this
point you raised it actually makes far more effective
scheduling as well as of right now. There's no number of
members here in this committee who have an 11:00 meeting
and a 1:00 meeting. They can't go back to the wards and
then come back. It's just wasting more time, but I do think
process.
take a
Take a Bow.
Like a budget hearings for example, I would, I would say
those make more sense in person and they wouldn't hybrid
cuz there's a lot more in-depth and some of the bigger
legislation. So I think than in talking through what the
general assembly would do, take another new account, makes
perfect sense.
And one more thing I want to mention, you know, I know that
coming down the pipe, we're going to have a lot of
legislation related to policy those. I absolutely wood
would by two young to have that in person that supposed to
supposed to the hybrid, those are some issues that we're
going to get down and dirty on. So I think that's something
we need to be engaging in person in. So, if it passes,
let's continue just put our heads together in and make sure
it's the, it's the best thing moves before. You think you,
I think I would just add that as we're, if this resolution
passes that when ottoman Vasquez talks with members of the
general assembly to craft a bill that we come back to the
committee. So that way we can get kind of find out what was
going to be put in the bill from the general assembly to
make sure that it kind of takes into account. What were
what were expressing here at today's meeting London Lopez
Thank you, chairman and for the record, I've never gotten
down and dirty over policy. I just want to point that out,
but I am in opposition to this resolution chairman and
members of the committee for a number of reasons. Some of,
which my colleagues have already stated. But I remember
very well the members that were in here during the
pandemic. What it was like to do. Virtual meetings, and I
know how
Alluring. It can be not to have to come down to be able to
do meetings, wearing your pajama bottoms and only get shirt
up to here.
that's,
That's not who we are. First off, second, majority of this
body makes damn near $150,000. From the taxpayers.
You.
You can come down to the taxpayers chamber to do business.
There's nothing stopping us from doing that.
I did.
Additionally.
There's something lost in the communication, and in the
relationships.
There.
That are built and created or killed through remote
interaction. We've seen where, in my honest, in my humble
opinion, the class of 2019 was short changed because of the
fact that they did not have the opportunity to create those
intricate and integral human bonds with their peers in this
room.
Play some
They spent six months in office.
and now,
And then we're locked and locked out after that.
A lot can be done.
Why?
While you're sitting right next to each other.
A lot can be learned while you're sitting right next to
each other.
and,
And if we're going to talk about, this is a way to increase
and expand you, no access to government. All we need to do
is point to George Blakemore.
where,
Wake.
Well, I think you're still in this room.
Probably.
How?
How many times do we see? George Blakemore on a remote.
How?
Held meaning.
Elmo.
Almost none, right.
The concerned citizen who today said that because no one
else is here. He had to represent, not only the black
community, but the Latino community in the Asian Community
because he was the only public speaker. He was never going
to part of the meetings that we had for nearly two years.
And those were the legal meetings before we get to the
illegal ones. That many of us raised alarms about and asked
the Illinois Attorney General's office of a public Office
of Public Integrity to investigate.
There.
there's,
There's a reason why we are an elected body, a public body
so that we can be seen you'd touched and approached by the
public.
Do.
This is their chamber.
And I think if you want to talk about how to make
government more accessible,
Live.
List.
listen to what our colleague from the 7th Ward said, and
publish a schedule for meetings public publish the schedule
for the
City Council meetings a year in advance.
Aspire.
Expand public testimony to be on 30 minutes.
Go.
Go back to commit. He's been having public testimony on
every item as we go as opposed to the first 30 minutes and
that's it. I'm a meeting. We have so constricted government
over the last four and a half years.
The.
But now we're trying to fabricate a way to get out of it,
when the clearest way possible is to undo, everything that
we did to squeeze the neck of public participation.
We have to let loose the fingers. Chairman, we have to
allow people to get bility to speak aloud in the ability to
speak on items. And at one point, even the sponsor of this,
all of this resolution that we should have meetings twice a
month. So that the public could come down and participate,
which I think is, well, already within the municipal code
and within our right there are things we can do now to make
ourselves more accessible.
City.
Sitting on your couch, is.
Sitting on our couch is not one of them.
Thank you, thank you. Thank you very much for that. I
really do. Appreciate the the perspective I think the
reality is we don't have the participation we're talkin
about. We have George Blakemore sometimes. Being the only
person speaking with the doors open. And in person, I think
the concern about in-person accessibility is also want to
consider for the district's be served, the people on the
ground, who want to talk to us, who want to knock in the
office door, know that the Alderman's available to speak to
you as opposed to sitting at City Hall with the suits and
rubbing elbows, and having whatever conversation or having
with a colleague rather than fix the potholes are the tree
trimmers are talking of the Departments of the
Commissioners. So I can I do understand it, you want to
spank sensibility across the board and we should I think
that having the hybrid option also increases the
possibility have evening committee hearings. So that way
people can actually have conversations with people outside
of work so they can actually join and provide public
comment and be able to more effectively engage. We haven't
seen that.
Current.
Her in prayer.
Her in person, as far as opening up a Texas accessibility
either. So I think if you have the interest in partnering
on other initiatives, to open up, accessibility always down
to figure out the conversation. But for the Neighbors on
the ground, who are also the taxpayers, and also the ones
who votes in the office and want to see us and make sure
that we're accountable to them being there in person and
accessible to those constituents. I think it's a priority,
they should not be ignored.
Exiled my basket and just for the record, this committee
will be meeting once in the evening.
An.
And once outside of City Hall in a community. So we're
trying to figure out the logistics around how to do that
with the Sergeant at Arms. As you know there's an
organization that provides a score scorecard on committee
meetings and the transparency and availability. This
committee has always had high marks. The only way, we have
not gotten up the, a is because we have not been able to
figure out how to delete the meetings. After 6 p.m. here
without having to pay overtime for the police officers and
then also figure out the logistics around doing it in a
ward facility. So we're going to try to figure out this
term, how to do that cuz I want this committee to get to
AA. You gotten to see plus those two items that I just
mentioned, will get us to 8th and Locust respond.
Thank.
Thank you to.
Thank you, Jamie.
Thank you, Karen. I just want to point out that we've
actually have had committees meet in the evening. We had
them meet off site Aviation and finance comes to mind.
Particularly when our wonderful commissioner Ginger Evans
was still here, but I also wanted to point out one other
item which I think hasn't been discussed, which is who has
ownership over Zoom technology, because that was the other
issue. That was the hang up. Was that city council? Did not
own it city. Clerk did not own it the mayor's office on it.
So all of this goes back to that will be predicated on
weather. Now,
The mayor gives us.
The mayor gives us the registration information to be able
to hold a hybrid Zoom meeting. So I think that has to be
incorporated in this conversation. That can't be lost
because that's why we seen the last four years. You can
never have to zoom meeting simultaneously. I'll make
everybody else in the known world because we only have one
free account that we all share.
Russian to become.
Russian to become into the most question. Armand, Vasquez
the resolution nowhere and it does or ban on in person,
right? Correct. That's why I thought hybrid evening
meetings. Off-site meetings that came up with the committee
chair training. Last week, I think pedestrian traffic
safety will endeavor to join you and making that commitment
to our constituents. I will also say since the class of
2019 came up, I want to, I want speak for everyone. I never
felt short-changed in the last 4 years. I don't want to see
whatever the last four years, were the clerk's office did
their very best to make our political and governmental
legislative process as accessible to the public and to
legislators
Thank you sir. I'll just repeat that in the last four years.
I really respect the work that the clerk's office did that
in our government Affairs, it to make the legislative
process as accessible under the worst possible
circumstances possible. And I would also like to believe
that the class of 2019 also did not shortchange their
constituents that they made the very best that we
consistently could to show up within our Wards and in our
online meeting. So I do believe in the work that you're
trying to do. I believe they were going to put a really
fair and balanced and to it. And if there are no further
questions or when there are no further questions, I would
move to pass on the resolution. I would just ask Audra pass
gas when you're working with those sponsors, both in the
House and Senate. If you could bring that version to the
committee's, we can take a look at this comedian. Other
committees have my commitment to the
station.
play Shanice.
Alicia needs to be one that beehives members of the council
as well, the chairs to figure out what's fair. And I also
want to join the grade a committee class and try to get
some evening in in person was for immigration as well.
Big.
Because it matches the session coming up. I want to make
sure this moves, cuz then we can go to the general
assembly, right? Talk to the speaker in the President's Day
here, here's what the council in general is in support of,
and then figure out like who to speak to at the state level
would be moving legislation and bringing in Ocean accounts
for the conversations.
Alderwoman Manahawkin work.
Thank.
Thank you, Jared, just to clarify what's going to happen
next. So you're going to take what has been proposed and
take it to the state, or you going to have more how much,
how much is going to change before you get something from
the state. Because I hear a lot of a lot of issues. And I I
don't disagree with a lot of them being on the, you know,
LSC and also Chambers of Commerce on zoom and I could see
where that online option that had been abused abused. But
also I saw where Community has been built on the online and
even on social media, even the by phone before, you know,
covid all the sudden everybody wanted to see each other on
zoom. And not that was spectacular. Never thought I would
see that ever. But there are ways that this could be
abused. And also I guess the devil is in the details is the
chair was saying, it's so, how does this going to proceed?
so, I'm
so, I mean,
So, I mean, all things going well for my perspective, right?
It would pass out of committee, then pass out of counsel
and now become something that the city has formally said
they have a preference of. So we would take that to the
general assembly and then that would move to their body of
government. And so for that, I would imagine the
conversations making sure that as a co-sponsor, we're
bringing in two different city council voices on this. And
I imagine the general assembly and thinking through, moving
it Forward would not only be thinking Chicago but also the
other municipalities. And so you got to figure out how how
wide are her narrow, do you want us to be? Is it only for
committee meetings? And so I think they before they move
those things. This conversation have to happen with the
different elected officials. Thank you if I can just
comment. Also, if you if it is a Statewide bill, it's very
interesting to think of Royal areas, where is it is? Truly
a difficult meeting in person. If the region is. I don't
think
Make.
Make it.
thank you. Thank you all women lead an element card.
Auto.
All the way.
Ottoman and ottoman Mitchell. I'll make it quick.
I think that whatever we do, we need to have strike the
right balance between accountability and I think less of a
convenience for me as it is not to take away the ability
for my community to be represented on a committee. If I
can't physically be in the location, where the meetings at,
Night.
Tonight, I agree with everybody that I would prefer to be
in person for as much as possible and I have been hope. I
got one of those best scores on attendance but there are
times when when it's not but it's not feasible or workable
for me to physically be in two places at once and I think
we've all experienced that. So I agree with a lot of my
colleagues. In terms of the accountability piece of this is
not meant to allow you to sit on your couch and shirk your
responsibilities. So you don't feel like getting out of bed
that day really is. You know, I've got an event that was
planned two months in advance and all of a sudden, there's
a committee meeting that I really do want to get a boat in
on, I, and I physically can't be in two places at once and
I'm left to choose.
and,
and I,
And that's it, I think that's that, that is that conundrum,
that many of us find ourselves in quite often. And I agree
with the alderman Mitchell about the scheduling piece of
this. I think there's a lot that we can do to help
ourselves and our schedules in our communities ultimately
by doing a little bit more coordination, so thank you.
Thank you, is really about the technology be something at
the renovation that because he things are accessible and
available to governments to be able to use. But sometimes
you're restricted by what's written in law that making the
changes to your point, every kind of bloody the fairness
and also just the Innovation and make it more efficient is
just the right thing for government to do in my belief.
To see how that works in.
To see how that works and, you know, maybe that catches on
because that helped accessibility. That was a direct
request from a disabled constituent, and bring an answer
the call on that. Thanks again. Tim,
Why?
Why don't you why don't we discuss this? Among us before
you take it to the state.
That that's what I did by lobbying to get the signatures so
far as we want to get it out to show that there's a
majority the body that agreed to do it when it comes to
signatures and Emma. And I know you've become very astute
at getting signatures. Do I fill the council but I don't
want, I don't think this, I don't, I don't think this is
baking. All too many times. Things come out of council. I
mean, come out of committee goes the council. We make a
mockery ourselves and Council in and I don't want to do
that anymore. I think you may want to let let's consider a
sharing where we can discuss this and see what direction we
would wanted to go before we even take it to the states.
It's a lot of things that we need to handle on our side and
in and I think we need to, I think, for the last eight
years, I've been here, we started our responsibility to
handle our business in our house.
Yeah.
yeah, I got
Yeah, I didn't absolutely fair. If what we have to do so is
an ordinance. I need the reason why we put it as a
resolution was more of a declaration of one and a half that
intent knowing that even if you had those conversations,
it's not within our purview to make any of the changes. So
bad. Being able to say we do believe they change should be
made and knowing that we're not the body to be able to make
them. It does to the I believe and then told me that my
commitment force of conversation between the body that you
can make the changes and those are affected by a meeting
us. So I think first, the general assembly would say what
we all know how you all feel about it. Two different folks
might disagree, so then by saying there's a general
agreement. I General conversation about it, it leads to
exactly the conversation. You're mentioning it was
mentioned before and I forgot who in the committee, said it
the general assembly would wrap something, then we go.
Okay, let's come back here and have a hearing about what
was drafted and what we feel about before potentially
passing or what are the changing mat want. And I think you
have an opportunity. Between now and if it were veto
session,
Able to come back and reconvene and I haven't introduced
something once we get legislation to look at to go. Hey, I
don't know how I feel about this season changes. We would
recommend
And I do.
I don't think we do need to get it to go to the to let your
house. I mean you just have people just write Justin. This
made me start talking about I thought the honey after you
eat her you are Scott so now you hear you guys leave, I'm
sorry I'm late.
Let's I think we we move too fast in. This is something we
need to deal with in our body first and if we decide that
this is something we want to start moving, then we take it
up to the legislature, I appreciate it. If people are
complaining, the government is fast. I'll take that for a
change. As we often hear, it doesn't move fast enough. But
I again, I am in full agreement with everyone here. That
how you do it matters? That it's fair. That has bound. You
agree. Let's have a look at ourselves first and then we
presented know why, but I don't agree that we don't do it
ourselves cuz we're not the body that's able to do it.
so, I wouldn't
So I would much rather get the again. This is why there are
currently 44 School sponsors to it to be able to say hey
I'm at the council wants to see that change that body has
to start their process. They will not if we don't signal
our intent to want that change. That's what I'm pretty sure
those what is bore did. Not mean to lie about what you were
doing. I guarantee you that I respect my colleagues.
Another thing that they did because things happened so
quickly when you getting signatures that's why I refrain
from signing them. But I think I think
we we need
We, we need to handle this. If this is something, we would
collectively decide if this is something we want to do. And
if we want, we want to do it, what is it look like? And
then that's what we want to move. Then we start taking the
necessary steps out and it's right now, this is going to
turn into a show. The resolution is the executive order
dropped, and I won't put anybody on blast. I've had members
articulate, they want to resign from committees because
they can't make it. And so, I think that's going to lead to
bigger problems to tension a line. So, yeah, I appreciate
that. The engagement card debate is disagreement, but it,
you will have my commitment that once things move forward
coming back here to make sure it's something we can find a
larger consensus. As far as what's drafted by the general
assembly,
Altima.
Alderman Lopez and vice-chair Mosley. Thank you chairman
perhaps I'm missing something. So the bulk of this
conversation is resolved revolved around
the genor.
the general assembly needing to take action to allow us
under the open meetings act to have remote meetings.
Correct?
Set timer.
That hybrid have remote and or hybrid meetings, correct. But
I keep hearing discussion about
speak.
Speaking that speaking to the general assembly, crafting,
legislation, and all of that correct, correct, right. Just
making sure I'm following the sequined totally solely
because this is the gotcha. Nowhere in this resolution.
Does it say that we're going to go and Lobby? These
individuals for what are our particular answer? The
resolution itself says, for everyone's that affectation, be
it resolved that we demand members of the city council of
the city of Chicago to hear, buy call upon the Illinois
General Assembly to amend the open meetings act throughout
the city council committees. And other subsidiary bodies of
legislative bodies to hold hybrid meetings, and be a
further resolved that is suit, that suitable. Copies of
this resolution be sent to house speaker manual, Chris
Welch, Senate, President, Don Herman and Governor JB
pritzker so there is no negotiation that technically
supposed to be happening.
this is just a resolution that's going to
This is just a resolution that's going to be theoretically
passed.
To.
Today possibly passed on the 19th possibly printed and
handed over to three people.
. Correct.
By Justin.
I disagree. Disagreement example was written in. There
isn't also specific as to what we mean by opening or
amending or making the changes, it's generally open. So
yes, as part of the process, we all Lobby on every piece of
legislation or have people Lobby us at Sunday supposed to
be bringing either. Well, I think to my colleagues point,
They?
That this resolution has a very specific task, and while
you have 44 co-sponsors, that I don't think I'll 44
co-sponsors. Know the full breadth and scope of what anyone
trying to lie. Be a particular legislation is pushing
because nobody Beyond those that One Singular Point that's
mentioned and resolved in this resolution, there are no
other next steps to dishin steps or proposed solutions to
what's being discussed.
I would not agree with that assessment. I'm just reading
straight from the resolution, with your name on it, which
says that we are asking the Illinois. General Assembly to
amend the open meetings, act to allow committees blah blah
blah to Old Piper meeting because resolution is a a a a
sentiment of the body. And the body is agreeing to the
recitals as well as the resolved matters and the consensus
over what we're agreeing to articulating that were speaking
about things not mentioned
is actually a direct contradiction to a resolution because
we are not asking for and other items to help facilitate
Papa.
public.
Public discourse, you are quite specifically, only asking
for one item and nowhere in this resolution. Does it also
say that we're going to send Council emissaries to
Springfield to negotiate this on our behalf? So I think
that it's not something that we can just discount as
semantics or a grammatical issue because resolutions, as I
have learned over the years are very specific, recitals
matter, the results matter and we are all agreeing to this
because it is clearly delineate, it in what has been
proposed. So, I think everyone is old and explanation, as
to why if this is very clear-cut is 2, what is the end
resolution?
Or this resolution? Sure. Why are we trying to go beyond
that without articulating, that in the actual resolution
itself? I think what you're asking, applies a different
standard to this resolution than to others. So if you're
looking at resolution, what we call upon the federal
government to make changes where we called the state to do
so that's not explicitly written out in most of them as
well. It says, when we know we can we can pull up to save
for the
Is there?
Is there a?
Is there he's going to be for every resolution we're having
who's going to talk to who and what government? That's not
explicit. Brittany resolutions. That's typical if you look
at the majority and speak only from our four years in
Council, the resolutions be past when we asked for other
governments, that may change their levels, do not
explicitly make that specific.
I do as someone who proposed the ban on assault weapons. I
didn't say that I was going to go to Congress and negotiate
the terms of that bill myself you to do something that says
there's an idea we want you to take action. This is what
we're in favor of this Warren opposition to please do.
Didn't say he was going to get them to take action. Did,
did that resolution say, who out of the body was going to
go Lobby them know? Because nobody did because the point of
a resolution is to send an Express.
The will of the body if you want to be the badlees
lobbyist, maybe that's the position that we need to add
into the budget for next year, is not what we're doing for
that example. These the same rules would apply, right? If
you're saying that, we want to ban on certain weapons. The
body did not say what, which weapons are we talkin about?
Do we have a difference of opinion on how every member
feels about that and who is bodies going to discuss? What
the assault ban would look like prior to sending it to the
federal government that also did not occur. Actually it did
before your arrival, it did in 2017 and a happy to share
that with you. You can't tell me. It didn't happen.
This is what?
this is what as
This is what as I stated it is, as I stated in the four
years that we've been this Council that has not been the
case. If you do have one, I'm more than happy to take that
conversation up. Sadly that's cuz most of those
conversations were remote where when we were in person
Have.
Having.
Having those conversations. Thank you, Jeremy.
Or we can do a roll call. I'm also find any questions with
questions from members are not in the power of the state.
Are you committed to working or Champion those issues as
well? As much as we talk about scheduling a set schedule.
And so for those are things that I believe reside in this
body and given that the state legislature could take some
time with this. Just want to make sure that we are
addressing those things as well. Yes, and also want to work
on that to make sure that we are more effective within our
purview absolutely open to doing. So in the interest of
more accessible and accountable government,
it just
Hey, just so, you know, for the record our committees are
going to be on the Tuesday before the city council meeting
at 10 a.m. schedule. It just so happens that this time we
having it here on Monday, I have to go to a conference
tomorrow and so I didn't want to participate in the hybrid
format. So,
Ollie's.
Hollister.
Is a?
Exactly what we're working on that.
Past, however, I want to make a motion to table. Will let
him discuss on the table. I know strike that when we look
at the ocean already, 24, do password. That thing takes
presidents. So we'll take it. Will, it will have looks like
it's going to be a roll cost. At what do rokok?
Unfortunately, my Metro the new patch recommendation was
put forward ahead of the late on the table so that takes
president. So I will go ahead and do a roll, call on this
resolution and
look up.
and we'll go from there. So we'll have the roll on ottoman.
Baskets is resolution.
Alderman. Indiana. Can you Miss Munoz? Can you please call
the roll?
Leaving from.
Information from automanager. Thank you. Chairman up, we're
just having a discussion over here after the roll-call
vote, depending on the outcome. Just for my information cuz
I've not been in one of these votes before, if it does not
pass. What happens to it. If it, if the resolution fails in
committee, does not get report it out.
You just failed legislation going to be a sponsor of the
resolution wishes to reintroduce it at a later time. He can
he or she can do that.
How do?
Old woman Manahawkin worth of clarification. If it, if it
was laid on the table, what's the difference there versus
if it got voted down today? So,
Once a member of the the body as foremost for Real about
which spot did that's already on debatable and that should
be the next. That should be the next action. Alden
Mitchell, had requested to lay it on the table, but there
was already a motion to take it for a vote, which takes
presidents. And so will be voting on this had all begun
Mitchell, made a move to lay it on the table before us,
about emotion, then we would have voted on the lay it on
the table motion and had that succeeded, then it would be
held without taking about had it failed and we would be
able to come for about
Can.
Can I express a concern? Because I I am in favor of talking
about this resolution more and I I am concerned that if
this gets voted down today, that it will take a while again
for it to come back for us to talk about it. And I think
it's an important thing for us to talk about. It's not just
us in Chicago.
Add.
that's,
Grappling with post covid, we're still in covid, it's all
across the state. And I think, I think that a lot of people
are looking to Chicago to see what we're doing and so I
would just don't know how people are going to vote today. I
just want the conversation to continue. So if if, if the
motion fails then Aldrin Vasquez would have the ability to
reintroduce it and and take into consideration some of the
discussion that took place today incorporate that into the
resolution and an update it based on the feedback it if it
does pass. We've already got commitment from all the masks
that moving forward when a bill was crafted that you would
come to the body. So that way we could have it discussed
and see if that's something that the / to move support and
kitchen on the Lopez.
Or to answer my two colleagues concerns our colleague from
the first war can always withdraw his motion and we can
only just proceed with a motion to lay it on the table so
that it doesn't have to be lost for a Time.
Turn.
It's another option if Alden laspada. So felt compelled to
withdraw, his motion to have it for a vote. He could do it
as well, but that's up to albums by spada, does not feel.
So, we'll move forward with the roll-call vote. So with
that Miss Munoz, please call the row.
German Villegas?
By Sherman Mosley.
Alderman laspada.
Alderman Mitchell.
Alderman, Chico.
Alderman.
ultimately,
Alderman, with the address.
Alderman Lopez.
Alderman, Tabares
Alderman, Cardona.
All.
Alderman waguespack.
Alderman IHOP in worth.
Sorry Alderman, call.
How many miles?
Minnie Mouse.
All right, so the roll call is sick size 7 days so that the
resolution fails. And so we helping committee
Soap.
Almond.
Avocado because it did not pass. I think I'm sure I know
you like I think we should just have them. This is the time
that we have a great discussion and then Mitchell said, you
know? And and Scott at we all have to already heard
everybody in and Rilo you heard everybody's opinion just
redo the resolution in those warnings because where is it
do matter at the end and as his were saying, it does
matter. But I'm here to support you and I just want you two
to get this done in a, in a proper manner.
Yeah, neither man.
Yap any of the members of recommendation is completely open
up the conversation. Vice-chair mostly just want to reflect
that I'm willing to partner with you. On this one. We want
to partner with you, to shape it pacifically. Can't
actually cool. Thank you. All right.
Be.
Being that there's no further business. We have a motion to
adjourn by the same roll call vote. It was applied to
determine a quorum don't move. I'll go make a pterosaur
moves her know directions to order to meeting on the
committee on economic have a safe journey. Think everyone.