Good afternoon.
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Good afternoon.
We can meet.
The committee on budget and government operations will come
to order. Will call the roll, all the middle spider.
Listen.
Laspada.
Melissa.
Laspada, not sposato.
Ormond.
Dial.
Autumn Mitchell.
Open Harris.
Ramirez.
Call me queen.
Call me Quinn.
Audrey Lopez.
Tell me more.
Open O'Shea.
On WeMo.
Amy Mosley.
I'm in.
Carmen Rodriguez.
All.
Alderman Scott.
Call Missy.
Call Missy cholo Pez.
Call Merle.
Call me earlier, I'm in Burnet.
Call Talia Farrow.
On the card.
Alma Cardona.
Rodriguez Sanchez.
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I'm in Conway on ramirez-rosa.
Autumn.
Ottoman Villegas oven mitts.
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Non-members.
How come?
How come you laugh sorry, vice-chairman Lee and all them in
Irving. This present we have a quorum this time. We'll have
public comments on the nutrients, present. Your sister
where a public comment. We have one individual who signed
up for public comments.
Mister switchblade.
All Apologies is a switchblade, good afternoon. My name is
I am a native here to Chicago. I am a foundational. Black
American in case, anyone doesn't know what that means. My
lineage goes back to the chattel slavery of this country
who built the opportunities that you all are sitting on
today. But that being said, with this commission that this
financial committee, I expect, you all to have a policy for
reparations exclusively for black foundational, Americans.
All these policies that you have made over the 60 past
years that we have been voting for has not been exclusive
towards us, even though we have fought for all other
groups. But we have still been and disparage of having
benefits that our ancestors had had Blood, Sweat and Tears
for
so,
Stop.
So I'm here to tell you that, if you do not have a
reparations policy by this year, 2023 do not expect to have
a Democratic party existing in the next 10 years because
the coal of what foundational black Americans are going
with right now is if we don't get the reparations, check
the Democrats. Don't get no vote. We have been voting for
you all for over 60 years and still, there isn't any
exclusive policy that represents us. Y'all, this government
has taken away our land, our people and our money and we
are expecting a check. We see that you have paid. 20
million for illegal immigrants to come here who have shared
the same anti-black hatred and their own country coming
over here. And you all are
Are Ben.
are benefiting them rather than their own citizens here.
You are proving that this government does not care about
the black people who have built this country. And we are
not going to stand for that stove. If you do, not all come
up with a policy that says reparations for foundational,
black Americans that exclusively goes back to the chattel
slavery of this country that built and made a way for every
culture and race to be where they're at now.
We would know.
We would not.
We would not stand and I also have numbers this resume with
the financial committee. I have numbers here that makes you
look like the racist bigots that you were even if you share
my theme race, we in Chicago Inns have
Third, 1/3 population of the city yet. 73% of black people
are homeless here in Chicago, but yet you made a way to
make sure that illegal immigrants have funding, and Khan
have 20 million dollars each month to sponsor people who
are not even time has expired.
Mel B is
Now that is a no mail mail ma'am. There's a timer right
there on the wall and it's three minutes. OK. And you much
item number one on the agenda. The only item is a proposed
ordinance to amend the 2023 annual appropriation ordinance,
ordinance, 2023 2083. A substitute has been sent around the
members of the committee leader of a motion to accept to
substitute order.
Okay, quarter.
Carmen Lopez. Now on the exception of the substitute
substitute is not before us and we will have our budget
director designate Annette. Guzman to explain the amendment
committee. And thank you for letting me come before you and
I look forward to meeting each of you. I'm over the course
of the next month. I'm so before you as a substitute
Amendment for the 23, annual preparation for the committee
budget, as you can see before you we have reduced funding
in specific places and increased budgets and others. So the
first item before you is a reduction in the human
infrastructure menu from $5000000 to 4.2 million dollars.
The reduction is meant to provide funding for other
committee, chairs through the end of this year.
The first, the committee is the finance committee where we
are not increasing any funding, we're actually just moving
funding between line items to the store just no funding
within the Personnel Services line. The second is funding
for the council office of financial analysis and additional
Three.
3000.
$3,000 for to hire a contractor to do additional financial
analysis as we gear up for the fy20 for Budget cycle.
Neck.
Next is the committee on budget and government operations
and additional $65,000 in the Personnel Resources. Mine as
we again, gear up for the fy20 for Budget cycle, and I need
to develop Creative Solutions. As we address, the economic
realities facing the city.
The neck.
The next is the newly-established police and fire committee
that substitute increases the $231,000 by $30,000 to 261.
We want to ensure that this committee has the resources
necessary to address in particular the initiative and asked
of our city police and fire as we move into the summer
months,
Neck.
Next is the committee on health and human relations
overall. This committee is going up to $200,000 in
additional $48,000 was included within the Personnel
Services line as we ramp up for the city's review of our
mental health, offerings, and how we address mental health
throughout the city, and how we in bed treatment, not
trauma, as an approach in our mental health offerings,
Neck.
next is,
Next is the comedian immigrant and Refugee Rights that
committee is just moving some funny grounded but it is
increasing to again $200,000. I think it's no secret that
the city is really addressing a crisis. Right now, we want
to make sure that the committee has the resources as we
start to have two meetings this year to really think
through how we address the crisis that faces, the the city
right now.
I think.
I think I may have skipped but I think Nexus to Workforce
Development and audit committee, this includes more funding
for the new subcommittee on youth employment. As you know,
this mare is very focused on expanding the offerings to
use, not only the summer, but into the fall months and
expanding the number of positions that we can offer you so
over the course of the summer and into the fall.
Make.
Just making sure I didn't skip anything.
and,
And the last is device mayor's office new office, for the
vice mayor of 400400 $7,000. As, you know, this mare is
very focused on getting out into the community making sure
that we are hearing from the community. Understanding what
their needs are as the budget director. I can tell you this
particular interest of mine as we understand how we want to
use the resources in the coming year. The vice mayor is
going to be in a role in being able to
I reach.
I reach more of our commute.
I reach more of our community and constituents for the
things that the mayor is unable to attend. And so this
funding allows Staffing for the vice mayor's office so that
we can I do those engagements?
and,
And that's all of the changes in the substitute Amendment
before we go to questions. I need to do one. How
housekeeping item Alderman. Lamont Robinson is joining us
virtually, as he is under the open meetings act, a
qualifies as having a family emergency. So we asked to
participate or virtually. So we have a quorum here like to
entertain a motion to allow him to participate a virtually
so he can be counted up for the purposes. Roll-call
participate in the meeting as any other member.
Spell moved.
Spell move by Alderman Rodriguez.
Let me finish move by Alderman, Rodriguez questions.
Alma Lopez. Thank you, chairman. Can we have someone from
the law to blame this new policy? Cuz we've never been able
to do remote? And in this fashion for mister, mister Rob
Santos, you please explain to the committee search.
Good afternoon. Rachel Santos on the episode of Chicago?
Rita.
Reading from rule 59 of the current rules. I think his is
probably the best way to answer this question. If a quorum
of the numbers of the city council, or a committee is
physically present, majority that Quorum mail out a member
of that body. To attend the meeting by Audio or video
conference, if the number is prevented from physically
attending because of personal illness, or disability
employment, or the business of the public body or family or
other emergency, if an older person wishes to attend, a
meeting by other means, the other person must provide the
clerk regarding a city, council meeting or committee chair
regarding a committee meeting. Sufficient notice to make
provision for remote participation, unless such notices
impractical.
Thank.
Thank you, and I'm sorry. So notice could be it's not a
notice in writing. It could just be a phone call or
anything like that. I would say that as these are the rules
of the city council, it is up to the city, council to
interpret them as it sees fit.
Thank you.
Tell me more.
Other than illness just understanding as to be in writing,
but if you are, if you said, if his illness is just a
statement, you don't have to provide that in writing
correct. The rules do not make a provision that requires
this notice to be in writing if I remember correctly, the
the distracts, the open meetings act directly to I'm sorry.
I've said I believe that this tracks the open meetings act
as well.
Okay, thank you. What is Vasquez?
German. Yeah I know I appreciate the questions. I think
also since it's his being asses a question, it's a reason I
believe the council needs to be reaching out to the general
assembly to make adjustments for hybrid so that we can have
the conversation cuz their time to work. Now we're going to
figure out the termination who counts as sick or not and I
think rather than leaving that to be something Alders or
anyone has to answer for having a general rule would make
sense. So just wanted to highlight that as a comment. Thank
you.
I think that.
I think that the adoption and also under the open meetings
Act is is not designed to create hybrid meetings. It is
designed to allow for participation is very limited
circumstances. In this for Alderman, Robinson was a limited
circumstances of this is not designed to open the door for
hybrid meetings. And that's all I want to be clear about.
That is very specific circumstance, that was brought to me
by him and so therefore, it is allowed under the rules and
so we want to you, no honor those particular, which is
where we can. And again, be within the confines of the law
in that respect, our Miss Mulatto, thank your chairman. At
this is something I support, but I do have a question based
off of what the council says here.
How can?
How can you give sufficient notice if you have an
emergency, that would it how you define a sufficient
notice. So, for example, if I got in an accident and I'm in
the hospital, I would like to attend the meeting if I got
food poisoning last night and I wake up in the morning and
I'm feeling really lousy, can you define sufficient? Notice
to me, I mean, sufficient notice to be basically, right
before the meeting is sufficient, notice
I'm not that strong support Council.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you, notice. But can you find special notice to find
sufficient notice? Again, I think it's important for the
council to determine whether sufficient notice is it. And,
you know, that's one of the reasons why I think that it's
appropriate that this be before before it before they
could, they the committee and for you to vote on it. No, we
can't be winging it, we have to say, sufficient notice as
long as before the meeting, and we have to Define it or
something. We can't just say, Nick sposato. Gave us an 8
hour. Notice than that, that wasn't enough, but John Smith
gave us a 2-hour notice. But that was enough. I mean, it
has to be the final attorney you are. So I was I'm saying
and I support this, believe me, I'm not. Not trying to give
you a hard time, but I'm asking you to Define sufficient.
Notice time, is it at the discretion of the chairman that
I'm fine with it but this a sufficient notice that's not a
good thing that's leaving.
Adore.
A door open for some problems, that's just my opinion, I'm
not the attorney sure. Now, understand that as far as I
know, there is no case law directly on this point, as to,
what sufficient notice that I have done a little bit of
research before this, this rule came into effect. But so is
it the Germans discussion?
If the check.
If the chair.
if the chairman
Below.
Believes that it is sufficient Lee an emergency that he
tosses it out to the committee to vote on certainly that is
a procedure that can befall a fine with it. If it's at the
Chairman's discretion that might be our best bet to say at
the Chairman's discretion or the chair women's discretion.
I'm fine with that. But just say, sufficient, notice and
maybe somebody's not getting along with somebody. Say
sorry, Nick didn't give me sufficient enough notice to all
I'm saying, we're leaving. This is kind of leaving this
open-ended here, and I don't know. Once again, you're the
attorney. I'm not so,
it's
It's all.
That's all I ask. If we just say hate the chick, the
discretion of the chair. I'm fine with it. No matter what.
But sufficient notice is something I'm troubled about.
That's all I just want to have my say about that chairman
sufficient notice. I just would like a definition for
sufficient notice. I do support this. It's a great way for
people that want there is support for them to attend
meetings. An emergency come up with many of us, but are we
going to try to see if your, if you have food poisoning? If
you got in an accident, if your kids got a ball game and
you can't come to this and get back to the bar. This is
this is a very limited circumstances and we want to make
sure that it is limited in that particular respect cuz it
is not designed to open the door to hybrid meetings. It is
a very limited circumstances. So is it
there's,
There's any other further adjustment in the rules. I think
we may need to take that up with chairman Harris to make
any additional changes to that, but it's designed under the
Oma to be extremely Limited.
that's,
That's all. That's all I am coming. Thank you, thank you
for let me know.
Questions on the Ordnance if we're moving on the ordinance.
No, we're not. We're not on there yet. We're all we're on
this motion. Rodriguez on Ben Robinson's participation. Any
other questions on that hammer down?
I'm sorry. You're on the committee now. All right, where
you went up your hand when she gets to go first and you
show me how almond Robinson is participating.
Go ahead with. Thank you, mr. Chairman, just wanted to know
how we can see that Alderman. Robinson is participating the
alderman Robinson. Make yourself known.
Okay.
You're?
You're a mute Alton Robinson. I am here. I see you. Thank
you very much, mr. Chairman, I just think it's important in
case the public views it that his constituents can see that
he's in the meeting.
Thank.
Thank you, chairman. I just one last question, with regards
to the rule, 59, you stated that our colleague, gave you
notice three file it with the clerk as well.
Turn.
To the best of my knowledge is.
Can we ask him?
because,
Because we can move forward if you didn't file it with the
clerk cuz that's what's required in the rules. I'm telling
you did because that's how I was notified as well. Say yes.
Thank you know, the questions on this.
All.
All in favor in your post.
depending,
Independent Restaurant. We will add all the men Lamont
Robinson to the role for this, for this meeting. All right,
everything I had. And I didn't think it would be okay? Or
is open for general questions on Star without a spotter.
Thank you so much. I just want to be clear, which is the
substitute. So I've got two copies in front of me, one to
just look at exhibit. A the page referring to human
infrastructure menu. One draws down the human
infrastructure menu to 4337000. The other one draws down to
4212000, which is the substitute substitute.
What's the top assists in 2021?
It.
It was the community Michael grants program where we said,
$100,000 for supplementary Investments and nonprofits in
our wards.
I'm I'm curious and where this just close to $800,000 is
coming from like which, which Wards are we drawing down
from or the Alders aware of the swaddle
So, this funding is you problem, as you rightly stated is
held over from last year's budget as well, but it was
actually an additional amount that was included in the FY
2003 budget. And So, based on the project that came into
the budget office, and it's my understanding that's now
closed. We're now, just trying to close out and reconcile
all of the projects. This 800 roughly $800,000 is what is
left over that is remaining from the, the funding in this
menu.
Do we know?
Do we know which words left over from? I cuz I got a
hundred thousand. Yeah I don't have that information off
the top of my stuff my head but I can get that information
for you if you could provide it to the appreciate it. Thank
you, thank you.
I should have plenty of nations of the human infrastructure
me. You money? That's what he was referring to that the
$787,000 left over from the particular Ward's. Yes, at
that's not currently programmed in that. Is going to be
left over by the end of this year. I'm sorry. That'll be
left left over by the end of this year. Yet, by then, or is
that what's been calculated? So I can calculate it so far.
And
SOS.
So as we move this money around which is just moving money
can before city council and I get a copy of the Easter
these committees that's listed here committee on finance, I
don't need counsel financial analysis can be on budget and
government operations, committee on police and fire
committee on health and human Relations Committee on
Workforce Development Committee on immigrant and Refugee
Rights. And the vice mayor can you provide? This is all
Personnel. The number of Personnel in a job descriptions
for each one, before the next before the city council
meeting.
let,
Let me ask you that, these are all new. So the Personnel
hasn't been hasn't been put into place. People change,
people of moved and I think after that is done, then you
may be able to do that. But to do that. Now when for
example, their new people on different committees and some
of those rolls have not been defined or or anything of that
nature. This is just an enabling of that. So that it can
then move forward. And after that, you're definitely free
to have whatever information exists. Upon, that particular
committee or line once that is actually designated by the
chairman and the new Administration. I didn't. How do we
know how many bodies we need based on the amount? We just
arbitrarily given the money.
because I
Because if I'm, if I'm as a city council member, I got three
full-time positions. At least. I know that three people are
going in there and what is a chief of staff? Whether it's
something. There's some type of description of this is a
committee that is not just the owners of that chairman, is
it committee that represents every person on that
committee? And so in order for me to understand my
personnel and how to utilize the Personnel on that
committee, that's out, that's all the information I'm
asking for and I think that we should happen. If we got the
dollars, we have to know that that's any operation. You
just don't provide dollars as an operation and then you
provide $2 to that operation.
About if we just provide that before the next city council
meeting, that's all I'm asking.
Or basking.
Or Vasquez.
Thank.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sharon. I really appreciate all the rumors
question. I look at it kind of from the other side of the
coin. So there's some of us who got funding to try to work
our committees and have to figure out then the amount of
people were able to hire. And so we're looking at, for
example, of the end of immigrant and Refugee Rights
Committee in a small budget start off with. So we were
working to make sure we increase that tablet capacity
knowing the kind of Crisis we're facing right now. I need
to absolutely fair to ask between This and like the next
council meeting come
App to show.
App to show what those different positions are. Because on
the other side of the coin, my concern is we don't have the
adequate Staffing for the immigrant, immigrant Crisis
crisis, we're currently going through. So we have to show
all those numbers as well. And so I think it makes perfect
sense. The show. What positions will be hiring for and what
work are than the job descriptions for the new positions in
the increases for transparency and so we can make sure
we're spending our capacity and doing the work as needed.
Also, on the time to say, thank you.
Envelope.
Or Lopez. Did you already know? Can I just say it's great
to be back on budget committee again? Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. We can change that. If you like them, you had
your chance to go ahead. I appreciate that to Chairman.
Truly do.
Could a?
good after
Good afternoon, directory. Welcome to the side of the
building. If I may ask, I know, one of my colleagues I
believe it was an alderman. The spot. I think ask for a
breakdown of the ward by Wards of the microgrants that
weren't used
but,
but as of late, the subject of
Mystery surpluses is coming to discussion on various
topics. Most notably, both, the funny that we have of pain,
which is another matter that will be taken up tomorrow with
regarding funding for the migrant situation. I believe all,
excuse me, mayor Lori Lightfoot on her way out issued an
executive order saying that 630 million and surpluses
should be used for pensions and even this 5 million dollar
bucket of money for the city council's. Micro-grants, which
began in 2022 has surpluses. Do we know exactly how many
buckets of money have surpluses in them that were
appropriated by this body?
and I,
And I know the only been a week, so I'm not going to hold
you to it, but do we know if we have a general idea across
the entire budget, or just a budget, I don't have that
information, you know, right now. But if that's something
that you'd like us to look into it, we definitely can, I
want to post this to you and I and again, I know that it's
fairly new in your tenure in this role, and I don't expect
you to know everything, but it's alarming for me as someone
who has talked about structural bloat in budgets for you.
When are previous mayor stated that there were six hundred
million dollar Surplus dollars in this budget that we have
now.
$800,000 out of a $5 bucket. Doesn't seem like a lot but
when you look at a 16 billion dollar operation hundreds of
millions of dollars sitting around that are just going to
be pulled and pushed left, right? And Center to fit
political whim makes me nervous. And I want to suggest an
offer to help you and your team trying to identify this
because I think that is something that needs to concern us
all not just for these committee funding source, this
committee funding source. But in everything that we're
doing because what that tells me is that we are
overcharging our taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars
and Beyond whatever. I thought we were overcharging them
previously and it's not right, it's completely unethical
and I think it's an opportunity for the new Administration
to set are budgeting and and financing apparatus.
Stray.
Straight and narrow path.
Straight and narrow path that everyone assumes that they're
operating on but clearly have not been for some time. So
yes, definitely look into that because I think there'll be
many questions even tomorrow as to where we mysteriously,
find money, when we want to and play Parvati when we don't,
thank you. Jeremy Emily.
Thank you. I'm going to just pick up from where all them
unless father was that I know. My word is one of them cuz
we didn't get to spend those funds. I was under the
understanding that we have until this year to to do that
that has been extended. So my question is this what sort of
notification was made? Because I think that my colleagues
who will be impacted are going to have a lot of questions
and constituents answer to for that. I can get you that
information. I don't have it out of my head, but I it's my
understanding that the proposals were due at a certain time
and that my, my office is currently trying to disclose out
and reconcile with leftover right now. Thank you.
Open Toys R.
Yeah, I'm sure what I did with regard to all the woman's
least question, I did check with the budget director, a few
weeks ago. And now we're closed out on December 17th. So,
if the proposals were not in by December 17th, or the
infrastructure of the human infrastructure fun, then they
were not able.
Be.
We used that was information. That was provided to me. They
catch a thank you. Thank you for that, correct.
Is it?
Is there?
Is there a motion to recommend approval, ottoman Villegas
on the motion?
Thank.
Thank you all in favor. Signify by saying I suppose
Nose.
Walmart.
All right, I'll mark you down as no and if any of the
chairs your eyes have it.
What are?
Will there be?
with there being no further business before the committee,
may we have a Motion artemis's Auto
Thank you, Karen. And I was wondering if I could just take
a quite a privilege for a second here before we adjourn the
meeting. I don't know if Mike, I'll need to know this or
not. But tomorrow is the last day of our beloved Rachel or
last day with us. So, it might be a little top in a little
might be a little top and hectic tomorrow. So, tomorrow
morning and posting a little reception in my office from
about 9:15 to 10. I will have Donuts there as usual. I will
provide food. I just want to make sure everybody knows. I
did email everybody, but I don't know. Stop on. By have a
donut with Rachel. She has worked at watching her girlish
figure. She want you to have a donut but there's all right.
And thank you for that point of privilege. Thank you.
All.
All right, with there being no further business, way to
change the motion to adjourn.
Alderman, Cardona movies with John Oliver, all in favor.
Say, aye all the poles. We are adjourned.