But like I said , okay. But it is the most up-to-date. Those X's right there.But you also- You can take a look at the PDFs. Right. Their PDF financial. It just depends on which one you use. And we got 30 minutes. Okay. Yeah, we got some time. It should be in the mail. Without leaving. I think that was me. Okay, Sophie. Yeah. Thank you so much. So, Jonah, Tim, Matt. That way I can help them. Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon. Buenas tardes. And welcome to the Committee on Housing and Real Estate on the City of Chicago. The time is 12:41, and the meeting is called to order. But before I start, I want to welcome some special guests that we have today. We have some students from the eighth grade class from It Takes a Village Leadership Academy in the Fourth Ward. So if you can please... That is fantastic. Thank you so much for joining us. It's always good to see our kids here in the Housing and Real Estate. So thank you for your visit. Welcome, and we're very excited to have you. Today, we have 10 items in the agenda, and we're going to start with a roll call. We'll now have the roll call to establish quorum. Vice Chair Mitchell. Not present. Alderman Espada. Not present. Alderwoman Harris. Not present. Alderman Quinn. Here. Present. Alderman Moore. Not present. Alderwoman Tavares. Here. Present. Alderwoman Scott. Present. Alderperson Fuentes. Present. Alderman Burnett. Present. Alderwoman Rosana Rodriguez Sanchez. Presente. Alderman Villegas. Not present. Alderwoman Clay. Alderwoman Clay present. Alderwoman Anna Happenworth. Present. And Alderwoman Hadden. Present. That give us 10, including me, that give us quorum. We have a Rule 59 request from Alderpersons Dowell, Robinson, Taylor, Quesada, and Metz to participate remotely. Can I get a motion to allow them to participate? So moved by Alderperson Rosana Rodriguez Sanchez. All those in favor say "Aye." All those opposed say "Nay." In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. Now we are recognizing, I know Alderman Taylor and Quesada are already there, and we wait for the other members to join us. Today we have 14. Is it 14? 14 public comments. We're just going to extend a little bit the public comments. We're going to add an extra 10 minutes or a little over 10 minutes so we have everybody able to speak. Each speaker will be given three minutes in all items on the agenda. And we're going to start by welcoming one of the students from It Takes a Village Leadership Academy, Jahzara Hobbs. Thank you, Jahzara. All right. Is the mic on? One second. Let me make sure that your mic is on. Good afternoon, members of the Chicago City Council. My name is Jahzara Hobbs, and I'm here today on behalf of my eighth grade class of ITAV LA. We are currently working on a grassroots campaign focused on addressing homelessness in our city. After reviewing the city's five-year homelessness plan led by Mayor Brandon Johnson, we appreciate the commitment to a housing-first approach and the focus on prevention and support services. It is clear that there is a strong vision in place. However, we believe that for this plan to truly be successful, two things are critical, clear funding and a defined timeline. First, we would like to better understand how this plan will be funded, what specific resources have been allocated, and are there additional funding sources being considered to ensure every part of this plan can be fully implemented? Second, we would like to ask about accountability. What is the timeline for key actions within this five-year plan, and how will progress be measured and shared with the public? As students and members of this community, we care deeply about making sure everyone in Chicago has safe access to stable housing. We believe that transparency, urgency, and community involvement are essential to making this vision a reality. We also want to know how young people like us can be involved in supporting these efforts and continuing this work beyond today. Thank you for your time and for your commitment to the people of Chicago. We look forward to working with you. Thank you so much. Thank you for such eloquent testimony. Next, we have Eliana from Access Living. And if we can please pass her the mic. Mm-hmm. Maybe. Yeah, we're going to move the whole thing. Yeah. And I would also recognize Alderman Harris, Alderman Mitchell, Alderman Laspada, and Alderman Moore for the purpose of the quorum. Testing, testing. Make sure. Oh. I think it's kind of- Testing. Hello, hello. Okay. Oh. Shall I begin? My name is Iliana Haven. I'm the housing community organizer with Access Living. I help uplift the voices and concerns of disabled residents of Chicago through our housing rights coalition. While members of my community face homelessness, they struggle to navigate the little resources available to them to find accessible and affordable housing. There are insurmountable barriers in navigating various wait lists on one's own. Folks have had a great difficulty searching for where the available housing is and waited to get to the top of many housing waiting lists they applied for. Many of them have been bumped off of the waiting list with little to no communication as well. We are here today to share a critical need. We need a coherent, transparent, and anti-racist housing system where the brunt of finding a place to live is not on those struggling to survive the day. A pilot program would allow for organizations such as Access Living and elected officials to assist in getting people housed and in monitoring where the affordable housing is and who receives them. This program would not only help connect those searching for housing to appropriate places that cater to their needs, it would also address the outrageous number of unit vacancies in public housing. We need to come together to fight to preserve our fair housing rights through critical public policy solutions such as this. Thank you. Thank you very much, Iliana. Next, we have Tiwon Sims. All of these. Well, thank you. I know she messing your mic stand up. Tell her get off your mic. No. Good afternoon, committee. Good afternoon. My name is Tiwon Sims, spelled T-I-W-O-N S-I-M-S. And since 2024, I've been speaking at this mic to that individual back there, Byron Sigio Lopez. So for the young lady in the wheelchair, your concerns are falling on deaf ears. To the young lady who spoke, and I'm glad y'all here advocating for homelessness. Since 2022, the homeless population has been activated what, three times. I'm one of those people. Do I look like a homeless individual? I'm sure I don't. I shouldn't be in this situation considering that since 2024, 200 and something individuals who they call undocumented have been housed here in Illinois, but all throughout Chicago. I'm a 45-year-old, I'll be 46 years old July 24th this year. I'm a 45-year-old lifelong resident here in Chicago who has not been given any consideration nor help. But I will tell y'all what they did to me. They jailed me. They jailed me illegally. April 16th what, 2025, when I was coming here for the joint committee on the green housing for affordable housing, the scam y'all was running, and instead of inviting me or allowing me to come in and speak, they jailed me downstairs, kept me out of this building for one whole year under illegal enforcement. This is the regard we get from that chairman, Byron Sigio Lopez. So, though you all will come in and speak, and prayerfully note that y'all on record, note that it counts, and it was beautiful what you said, and it was on point and concise. But for to have it fall on those ears makes it questionable if it'll even be helped or heard. And to the lady in the wheelchair also, if it'll even be helped or heard, because I haven't been helped or heard. But I had representatives running to hospitals in regards to the undocumented, right? These individuals have advocated for everybody but the American citizen. And so we see the American citizens riding in the red line, using it for refuge. These are Black Americans, foundational Black Americans. That population that has been activated. Ask me the number of or percentage of Black Americans. 76%. And to stand in this box and speak countless times over and over, right, Danny Laspada? An open racist, that man right there with the silver hair. So that y'all be able to recognize that these individuals are not truly allies to us, and so that y'all never be used. Use y'all voices strongly, proficiently, but use them to benefit your people. Thank you. Next, we have Katherine Sponholtz for the PPTCA Condo Association. And Alderman Villegas recognized for quorum. Good afternoon. My name is Katherine Sponholtz, and I'm a 35-year resident of Chicago, with all of those years being spent in a high-rise community, 20 of which has been in Park Place Tower, which is at Irving and Lake Shore Drive. In 2024, I became the condo board president for Park Place Tower, and the single biggest issue that our management and maintenance team face in the spring and summer months is the temperature changes and navigating the Chicago Heat Ordinance. As such, in 2024, we decided to try and make or basically influence change, and that's why I'm here before you today. We created a petition that was on change.org, which gathered 1,074 signatures in favor of changing the Chicago Heat Ordinance. Additionally, we partnered with Angela Clay, our alderperson, and hence the reason I am here before you today.Yesterday, I sent an email to the committee outlining the need for change, specifically in two-pipe buildings such as Park Place Towers, along with the signature statements in support of this proposed change. Through our partnership with Alderperson Clay, I'm asking you, basically begging you, to advance the proposed changes to the Chicago Heat Ordinance. It really is an issue with the climate change going into play. It can be a difference of 20 degrees from the north side of our building to our south side of our building, and we are still pumping heat into our residential units due to the requirements of the Chicago Heat Ordinance. So I'm asking you to advance the proposed changes that we partner together with Alderperson Clay and several other alderpeople, so that it can go before a city council vote next Wednesday. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. I also want to recognize Alderman Robinson. He also, I think he's joining us, or he is about to join. And Alderman Dowell. Mm-hmm. I think they have just joined us. Next we have Jessica Jackson. Good morning. And first thing I want to say is I want to commend this young lady. You did a good job. You did an excellent job. And I'm glad to see you all down here, because it's not focusing on teen takeovers and negative things like that. You all are representing something very positive here, and so I want to commend you all for that. You stay in school. No matter what, stay in school. I know the school system sucks in a lot of ways, but it's the best that we got. So you use it as best as you can. You did a good job. Now with that being said, this committee right here, that's housing and real estate, I want you all to understand, they're not advocating for nothing for you all, not for Black kids. They got you all in here talking about housing and all this and that. Do you all understand that this same committee, and particularly that middle row, where it's Hadden, Clay, Fuentes, and Rosana Sanchez was right there. She got up and left because she don't want to hear us talk. She don't want us to tell you all that they've taken all the money and given it to illegal immigrants. You all better understand that. They took all the money and gave it to illegal immigrants. They're not building no housing for you all. Not at all. Everything that they're talking about doing, they're doing it for illegal immigrants. Let me tell you something. We're in these meetings all the time. We're here three, four times a week in every single meeting, and we've been doing it for three years, ever since they've been putting these illegal immigrants into Black neighborhoods. We've been fighting for them to get them out of our neighborhoods. We need our resources. Our parents came from the South and set up shop in Chicago and made Chicago what it is today. Not nobody from across no border. And they're taking everything that we got and giving it to illegal immigrants. They're stealing our real estate. They're stealing and telling you all about how you can get affordable housing with vouchers and stuff. No, you all want to own property. You don't want no voucher. You don't want to be on welfare. You want to own. You want to own businesses. You want to own property. You want to have families. That's what you want. You want that for you. Ain't nobody going to fight for us but us. And if you all think I'm lying about anything, Monique Scott, she'll tell you. I've been down here for three years because they've been trying to steal real estate on the South Side and West Side of Chicago, including my own mother's probate estate. You ask her if I'm lying. We got all the voting and how they voting. They done gave our money to illegal immigrants. You all stay in school. Thank you. Next we have Amy Masters from BOMA Chicago. Good afternoon, Chairman Sigcho-Lopez, Vice Chairman Mitchell, and members of the committee. My name is Amy Masters. I'm the Director of Government and External Affairs for BOMA Chicago. Our organization represents about 240 large commercial office buildings here in the city. I want to briefly acknowledge the broader market conditions our members are navigating. Six years after COVID, just over half of office workers have returned, and our average downtown office vacancy is approaching a record high of 30%. Combined with high interest rates and rising operating costs, these pressures have driven down building values, often dramatically, with many in financial distress, impacting jobs and property tax base. In this environment, any measure that helps reduce cost for buildings and their tenants is especially important, which is why thoughtful, collaborative policymaking matters so much. We would like to thank Alderwoman Clay for proactively reaching out to stakeholders and inviting feedback before advancing the flexible heat ordinance. We sincerely appreciate your openness and your willingness to incorporate our recommendations. From our review, we do not see that this billWe do not see this bill creating any negative impacts for commercial properties. While only a small number of BOMA Chicago buildings use shared systems for heating and cooling, the proposed change appears helpful to those buildings that do. We also appreciate that Alderwoman Clay, along with the Department of Buildings, accepted our proposed edits to clarify that office buildings are not occupied around the clock, and to ensure the ordinance reflects the sustainability practices of our buildings that they implement during non-work hours. Chicago's commercial office buildings lead the nation in sustainability, implementing strong energy reduction practices to lower emissions and cut energy operating costs. These efforts don't just benefit building owners, they directly reduce costs for tenants, many of whom are small businesses that rely on predictable, manageable expenses to stay competitive. Thank you again for the opportunity to provide input on the flexible heat ordinance and for your continued partnership to support a healthy, sustainable built environment. Thank you so much. Next, we have Zoe Lee. Good evening, good morning, good afternoon. My name is Zoe Lee, and I'm the founder of Chicago Flips Red. I founded Chicago Flips Red because the City of Chicago unlawfully demolished my family's building in Auburn Gresham, and I couldn't get any help. Me and Ms. Jessica Jackson have been coming down here since 2023. I started protesting outside for 17 weeks. Brian Sichel Lopez, who is now running for 4th District Congressional for the Congress, watched me outside and did not do anything. I even went to one of your fundraisers. I donated $50, and no results. So also, I could tell you everything, but if you look me up on Google me online, you can go to my Breakfast Club interview, and I break down how much of a scam they are. I call them the Disgrace 50. It's 50 aldermen. We have 20 Black aldermen who are an absolute disgrace to the culture. Then we have the Hispanic KKK, who actually do not care, but they will be out here fighting for illegal aliens because many of them are ran by the cartel. So this is what we're dealing with. This is one big scam. So that's why I use Young Miami's new song, "Spend It," because this is one big scam. All they do is steal money. If you go follow the money, just go back from COVID. Look at all of the money that was allocated to this city for homelessness. Where is the money? Then go back and look at why $1.1 billion in epidemiology money was laundered in public health, and they don't speak about that. They don't speak about none of this money. The TIF money, that's a big scam. Now, all these people right here about to come in here and get some TIF money for some affordable housing that we're never going to see, never going to get. And at the end of the day, the issue is you're going to have to vote these people out. That's what you're going to have to do, because we need policy and legislation, and they don't understand policy and legislation because as a taxpayer, we are paying their salaries. We're paying every one of their salaries. We're paying their personnel. We're paying for their cars. We're paying for anything. And for some reason, the 20 wards, predominantly Black wards, that's the most blighted, so they get the most TIF money, still look how they look in 2026. But if you go to Lincoln Park, if you go to any majority Hispanic wards, they look nothing like the 17th Ward, where David Moore, my alderman, let the City of Chicago knock down a building that was a business for 43 years in the community. That is what we have in Chicago. Thank you. Next, we have George Blakemore. I'm happy, elated to see these young people here. The miseducation of the Black man, the miseducation of our children. The miseducation, Carter G. Woodson says, and the young lady earlier brought up illegal immigrants. What is legal and what is illegal? Our people was brought over illegal, in chains. In chains, as slaves. They didn't choose to wade across the Rio Grande or come over from Europe. They had no choice. They came in chains, and today, a lot of our people are still in chains because the mind is a terrible thing to waste. Illegal immigrants. What are you talking about? People that do not go by the law. In a few minutes, when my minute is up, they'll say, "Mr. Blakemore, we have rules here. You have to move." But they have no rules in America anymore. They are bullies. These people first came from Texas, and they were just living, sleeping in the police station, busloads of them coming over and getting jobs, goods, contracts, and services, things that the Black people have never received. But guess what? In politics, I'm going to educate you. They have Democrats, they got Republicans, they got liberals. All of these people are a member of the same party. What party is that? The Democrat machine.All of them. No checks and balance is like a home that you have all daddies and no mamas. It's like a home that you have all mamas and no daddies. We need check and balance here. We need mamas and daddies. We need Democrats. We need Republicans. We need liberals. All of these people are part of the same machine. There's something inherently corrupt here. There's something un-American here. And to have Black faces in high places selling our people out. Selling them out. The miseducation of... And she's jumping up, "Oh, this man is loud." The miseducation of Black people. The miseducation, Carter G. Woodson says, when their children are reading on level and the Black children are reading on fourth-grade level. There's something inherently wrong with all these Black faces in high places selling Black people out. So I'm glad to see you. Now, I try to make it separate. You don't want to have a house with all mamas and no daddies. You want a balance. You want mothers and fathers. Miseducate. I'm tired of miseducating our Black people. Thank you. Next, we have Damika from Access Living. Maybe we can... Oh, there's the mic. Thank you. Hey, y'all. Okay. My name is Damika Bennett. Yeah. My first point is- Passed away ... my mom passed away in August- 2003 ... 2003. Then got a separate- My brother moved me in at Heather's. I had a second caretaker. Hospitalized, got housing after discharge. I became hospitalized, sought housing after discharge. South Village. Got connected to a group home in South Village, and subjected to mistreatment there for a year. Father on the third floor. And I moved in with my father on the third floor. Which was inaccessible. Village social worker transferred my case. And South Village social worker transferred my case at, towards social worker at Leader Services School. Skokie. Where I currently reside in Skokie. Need safe and accessible housing. I'm now currently on a wait list, but I need safe and accessible- As soon as possible ... as soon as possible. This is why I support accountable housing waiting list. This is why I support, uh- The accountable housing ... the accountable housing waiting list ordinance. There you go. Thank you. Thank you so much, Damika. Uh, next we have Reverend Linnell McGee Sr. And I want to thank all the students, too. Thank you so much again for coming. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for coming. Hope this shame must be standing up for y'all. Let me sit down. We'll figure something out. Good morning to the council. Uh, I'm Pastor Linnell McGee. I pastor Eureka Missionary Baptist Church at 540301 through 05 South Halsted, and I have been advocating for the neighborhood for 43 years. Uh, we have elevated, we've been feeding the hungry. We feed the hungry twice a month. Uh, we're not a part of the feeding program. Uh, we have fellow, uh, worshipers and ministries that, uh, support us, and we feed from our end. The reason that we don't have our own program is because we don't have enough room, uh, to stock, uh, what we can receive. So what we do is we feed about 75 to 100 people twice a month. And so we, I advocate for expanding here so we can have enough room, uh, to put the refrigerators in so we can help the people in the neighborhood. And in the meantime, we also want to expand, uh, so we can do some, uh, other things in our neighborhood for our children. Uh, we want, uh, these lots that we are advocating for, and we want to put a playground back there. It's right behind our church so that our children can, uh, after school, have a place to play right around there where they live. And so, uh, we are here today to, uh, thank the council for the opportunity to speak. Uh, we are still doing ministry in the neighborhood. Uh, we advocate, we work, uh, with and without. We feed what we can, uh-I'm grateful to have some friends that's able to feed 400 or 500 people a week, and I certainly thank God for them. And I bless God for their work. I don't have a problem with them. The people I have a problem with is the people that can feed 400 or 500 and won't feed anybody. So we do our best, and we come to the council so that we can expand and continue our work in our neighborhood. Thank you. Thank you, Reverend, for your work, and appreciate your comments. Next, we have Sean Mills from the AHAD Coalition. Hello. Hi, everyone. My name is Sean Mills. I'm a representative here working with AHAD to promote our ordinance on affordable housing. And what I can best represent here are our interests on the technology side, as I'm kind of advising the coalition on that side of things. So our current state of affairs for affordable housing, as many people know and have discussed their personal grievances or just know from being around the city, much of what is currently available is largely unusable or random. You go to the site on the Chicago's website, and it's basically a s****y Excel web sheet that you can kind of scroll through, see some addresses for, but there's no real system there. And the ones that are there are disparate and largely unusable, again, like I said, or informational. So this ordinance basically really proposes a full, I guess, a full just breakdown of the ordinance. It's in full support of it. So it's not just we're trying to pass legislation and that's it. We want to pass it and then really follow through with it. So this would create a centralized waiting list portal where people can really go see their profile, log in, see where they stand on things, see why they were denied on things, see various housing in different neighborhoods to maybe move across neighborhood that might suit them better, and things like that. So that's really what this is all about, is matching the technology of our city to where it needs to be, and it's extremely doable from my standpoint. That's pretty much what I have to say on that. I'm happy to answer other questions on it as well later on how this tech can be done. The other quick thing I want to say is no one is illegal, especially on- Yes. This is my time. I didn't talk on your time. Please. I was very respectful during your time. We all heard each other. He has the mic right now. Please go ahead. Sorry. No one is illegal on stolen land. If you knew history, you would know this. Yeah. Thank you. What you should be doing instead of focusing on people that are lateral to you- Okay, please. You can address it to me. We're going to suspend the time for a second. No one is illegal on stolen land, as I'm sure many people here know. And I wish the kids were still here to make up their own minds. And when you're confused on who to blame, on who's to blame in a society- Yeah. When you're confused about who to blame in a society, it is never going to be the people that are equally as repressed as you are. It's always g- Say s****y. We couldn't say it. That's right. He got to cursing everything. Come on. He got to cursing everything. You got other Black people that get up and advocate against you. Well, who- But we've personally felt the abuse from these people. So there's no way to minimize it. We understand truly what's going on here because we've experienced it for the last two years. One year of illegal enforcement, they blocked me up in a coffee myself. I came here and spoke to them about being homeless, my children. We're not- Look, we were- So thank you for these individuals who they have put everything, preferential treatment, financial, all the needs of Chicagoans. And to who? So you don't get up there to advocate for what? Sergeant of arms, please. Cut it out, man. Please, if you can help us restore the order in the meeting. I will try to demonize something. Don't compound us our words. They're demonizing the truth. We speak up for Honan. They don't just want to benefit us. They talk about them. Vice, on what- They talk about us. Right here. I'll see what I can find. The guard that's throwing us in jail. That's your racism. It ain't no racism. You made a mistake. Well, we cannot continue the meeting until we allowed everybody to speak. We respect everybody's opinion. Everybody listen to the comments that were made, in despite of not being in agreement with them, and we ask for the same respect. If that is not going to happen, we're going to ask the people who are interrupting the meeting to either leave the chambers or they will be removed. And this is the final warning. The sergeant of arms and the officers are here, so I want to be very clear. We tolerated a lot of the bigotry and the racist comments. All right. I'm assuming everybody who is staying is going to listen to the comments just as we did with the other comments. We respect freedom of speech.But we're also going to have the quorum when we speak to one another. Next, we have Ms. Etta Davis. Hello, my name is Etta Davis, and I'm here to just speak on behalf of the AHAD ordinance, which I think is a wonderful ordinance. Back in the day, when I was looking for public housing, affordable housing, the only way that I could find out about housing was through word of mouth. And so, if you lived on the South Side, everybody was telling you about apartments on the South Side, and vice versa if you lived on the North Side. So everybody stayed concentrated in their different areas, North Side or South Side. And so with this ordinance, it's going to have this portal where it has a listing of 3,700 units that are all over the city of Chicago, where you can fill out your information, and you can go to certified registration sites, such as, you ask your alderman's office, or perhaps they'll also certify libraries or computer labs or whatever, and they can help you out with this information. People with limited incomes, such as myself, we don't have the money to go from one housing development or whatever to look for another housing that might be available. You just don't have that type of money to go looking from house to house. And then if you do have the money, you don't have the time to jump around and look for place to place. And so this ordinance, with this ordinance, I think that it's very good in the fact that, as I say, it would have all of these listings, and then it could just spread out your information and just save a lot of time as well as money. So, I think that people should vote yes on the AHAD ordinance now. Thank you. Thank you so much, Ms. Davis. Next, we have Qushona Harris. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman. My name is Qushona Harris. Good afternoon. And I am developing a new initiative establishing a sanitation center here in our city. I want to be clear about its role. We will offer private shower stalls, hygiene supplies, clean clothes if needed. Our daughter facility will be located in Bronzeville, just across from the Chicago police headquarters. It will serve all communities, acting as a model blueprint in a dignified and structural way, making individuals not only feel humane, but wanting to take the next steps towards stability. Housing is a key factor in this stability step. We recognize that our city faces a significant rate of displacement, and we cannot effectively rehouse individuals first without addressing the de-housing. By this intake at the hygiene center, we create a pathway to rehouse, ensure individuals are assessed, supported, and connected to the resources they need in a timely way. This intake assessment will function like a case management service, guiding each individual as they navigate their path, whether it's towards stable housing, workforce, job readiness, other community support. This holistic approach will ensure that each person has a clear supported route towards lasting stability. By ensuring a structural intake process, we guide individuals smoothly into assisted living, subsidized living, and transitional housing, ensuring that they are placed with dignity. This approach protects the value of properties and safeguards the future stability of each person in our community. I humbly ask for your support today in taking the next critical step towards housing stability, dignity, lasting opportunities for our city. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. And last, we have a speaker from Life Beyond Limits. If you can also state your name for the record as well. Yes, sir. Greetings to everyone that's on the platform today and all the organizations that are here. I did want to shout out all of those young people that were here on today, being actually in these rooms at young ages. I wanted to really address housing, and one of the reasons why I wanted to address housing, I do CVI here in the city of Chicago, and so I do violence prevention. And so this is an issue with housing. I just have to address it, and I want to be honest. A lot of these housing programs that we have, I work with a lot of young men that are in the streets that are active when it comes to gang violence. I work with a lot of men that come out of the prison system. And one of the things I want to say about housing, we have to do a better job. A lot of these young men and men coming out of prison, they come out of places that look like hell holes. And a lot of these programs that we have that they're sent to, they don't look any better. I was always taught that the product that you produce is based on basically the atmosphere. And so if you put someone in an atmosphere that they're not able to thrive in, where it's still poverty, where these individuals are put in hell holes, how do you expect them to really be rehabilitated? I work with young men right now that are active, and I'm going to just say this, they're active in the street. A lot of them are in the street, known for gang affiliations. But when they come home, guess what? Everybody's going to be back in the same places doing the same things. And so I'm proposing to the city of Chicago, we need to start really looking at public safety and housing and really start talking to peoplePeople like myself that know that when this young man come out of jail, he going to go to a halfway house. There's probably not going to be a lot of resources that he's going to get. Then he's going to wind back up on 79th or 63rd, and the probability of him basically staying alive, it's not really a likely probability if you really know about streets. And so I'm asking because a lot of the people that are in position, a lot of the people like you guys that sit on panels, you guys are not in the street like that. You're not really in the communities to really know firsthand a lot of the things that are going on. And I'm just tired of seeing people come home to reentry programs that get millions of dollars of funding, and then these people put on a show when the mayor come, when the politicians come. They clean up the programs, and as soon as you guys leave, it's back to square one, where the people are mistreated. They're living in hell holes, and nobody is doing any follow-up. And then when you complain about things like this, you're seen as the enemy. So I'm saying to you guys, we got to do a better job of holding people accountable and not just paying people that's your friend. People lives are at stake out here. There's too many people dying, and it's not enough accountability. I'm just saying to you all, the money is being put in the hands of people that really want the best interest of the community. I'm Dr. Sandy K. Norman, Life Beyond Limits. Thank you for extending my time also. Thank you. This concludes our public comment, but I do want to address a little bit. I know the young kids left a little earlier, but I do want to address, especially as you mentioned, there are certainly really difficult times out there, and it requires all of us to work together in collaboration and without dehumanizing anyone. Housing is a human right, and in this committee, as we see, we extended the time. We hear every single comment, and we will do everything is within our power to address all the issues that we have in front of this committee. Housing is a human right. That is how we see this issue, and I ask all of us to make sure that we're always thinking about our young kids. As a father of triplets, I tell you it's very important that we lead by example. Hate has never been a recipe for solutions. So I want to thank you all for coming in here, and I appreciate everybody's comments and time. In the committee, we also have received 18 written public comments. In one of the items was the number one, eight letters for the item two, five for the item three, and four asking for the eviction moratorium. That is not in today's agenda, but I want to also refer to that as something that we need to discuss with the state and county partners. And definitely, we just came back from Springfield. Even though it's not in the agenda, we're happy to follow up on that as well. The written comments were emailed and included in your packets for today for all committee members. Thank you so much, and this concludes our public comment. Our first order of business is the Rule 45 report from April 8th, 2026, which was also emailed and handed out to committee members. Can I get a motion to recommend approval of this report? So moved. So moved by Alderperson Anna Hafenworth. All those in favor say aye. All oppose nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The Rule 45 report has been approved, and now we will move on the items for the committee. Item number one is an ordinance 2026.0024O22, amendment to Municipal Code Chapter 2-4 by adding Section 2-4-130 regarding the annual report on homelessness and affordable housing. First Deputy Mayor for Health and Human Services and Director of the Mayor's Office of Homelessness, Jonah Anderson, is here to testify on behalf of this ordinance. He's joined by Matt Stern, the Deputy Commissioner of DOH, and Kimberly Howard, the Senior Director of Family Support Programs at DFSS. So we're going to start with Jonah, and thank you again for being here in front of the committee. Of course. Thank you. Excuse me here. Dear Committee on Housing and Real Estate and esteemed Chairman Sigcho López, it's my honor to sit before you today to introduce myself and produce, excuse me, and present the proposed amendment of Chicago Municipal Code Chapters 2-4, 2-44, and 2-50. My name is Jonah Anderson, and I serve as the First Deputy Mayor of Health and Human Services within the Office of the Mayor. Additionally, as of early this past April, I also serve in a dual appointment as the Director of the Mayor's Office of Homelessness. I'd like to start today by extending a big thank you to City Council, former Chief Cindy Soto, and all of the city departments, sister agencies, constituents, and elected officials who have advanced the work of preventing and addressing homelessness to date. I'm humbled excuse me, I'm humbled and grateful for the opportunity to continue advancing this work in collaboration with each of you. Turning to the ordinance presented to committee today, I want to first provide a bit of history. In past years, federal guidance through the United States Interagency Council on Homelessness or USICH, provided resources and a framework for effectively coordinating responses to homelessness nationally. In 2023, this council amended the municipal code, making it a requirement for DFSS and DOH to publish an annual report on homelessness based on, hmm, the USICH principles. Three reports, excuse me, have been published to date, in 2023, 2024, and 2025. In April of 2025, the Trump administration directed the elimination of the USICH, rendering national strategies and shared guidance across departments muteAnd leaving cities and states without federal guidance for the work. In contrast, the City of Chicago, through the establishment of the Mayor's Office of Homelessness and the advancement of the Five-Year Blueprint initiative, has developed a more robust and inclusive network of homelessness services and providers, which our reporting structure should now reflect. The ordinance before you today, 02026-0024022, would repeal the existing municipal code sections 2-44-070 and 2-50-085, requiring DFSS and DOH to publish together, but without the support of any other department, an annual report on homelessness, and will establish a new section, 2-4-130, putting into effect a new requirement for the Mayor's Office of Homelessness to coordinate the development of an annual report that's informed by the blueprint and with contributions that span the whole of city government. To put this simply, we're keeping the annual reporting requirement, but shifting responsibility for its production to the Mayor's Office of Homelessness, and framing future reports based on the blueprint rather than the USICH, which is now defunct. This approach will allow the city to better highlight the work underway from not just DFSS and DOH, but also across all city departments and sister agencies. By bringing these efforts together in a single coordinated report, the city will more clearly demonstrate the full force of government working together to address homelessness and housing instability. To ensure transparency, continuous learning, and course correction, on August 31st of each year, the Mayor's Office of Homelessness will present the annual progress report to the Committee on Housing and Real Estate. Additionally, the report will be made public on the Mayor's Office of Homelessness website within five business days of its submission to the appropriate city council committee. Chairman Sancho Lopez, members of the committee, I'd like to thank you very much for your attention to my report out today, and for your concern towards the matter of homelessness and housing instability in our city. I look forward to working with you all going forward. Thank you again for your time and consideration. Thank you. Are there any other statements by the presenters, or do we want to start with maybe questions from-- I know that we have had briefings with members of the committee, but this is an important-- I know that there's some members of the public who came in to talk about this. So if any committee members have any questions about this. Alderman Espada. Thank you, sir. So grateful for the presentation, supportive of the ordinance. I'm really happy for the Five-Year Blueprint, and I'm really glad for the annual reporting. I want to take a moment to speak something that is at once a bit tangential, but also could be applied to any number of items on our agenda today. So our municipal code, these reporting requirements, are only as effective as our application of them. I want to take a moment to call out that the city, by ordinance as well, is supposed to have a five-year housing plan. Our last five-year housing plan expired in 2023. The value of that plan, and at the time, the quarterly reporting that goes with it, is keeping us accountable on affordable housing production and maintenance. I would like to be provided, through the chair, an update on the development of the next five-year housing plan, because at this point, it's been three years since we last had one, and it is, in my opinion, time to rectify that. I want this ordinance to succeed, and that's partially why I'm calling this out, is that reporting and ordinances that create reports are, again, only as effective as us making sure that they are consistently put into practice. And I hope, Chair, that that's a fair comment. That's fair. And we'll make sure to have that answer through the chair. Thank you, Alder. Unless there's any comment from the department. Are you good? Mm-hmm. Well taken. Thank you. Are there any additional comments? Otherwise, can I have a motion to approve? So move Alderwoman Clay. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation of this ordinance will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May- Chairman, I got my hand up. Oh. Sorry, we didn't see. How long is the... All right, Alderman Taylor. Sorry, we didn't see you on the screen. Go ahead. Sorry about that. Thank you. Can you talk about, in the report, how you all are going to connect with CHA and HUD around vacancies? And also talk about what is in the housing plan to help some of these shelters that have-- They're not that clean. They got bedbugs. How are we connecting them with community orgs to help people get employment? Can you talk a little bit about that? Yes. Thank you so much, Alder. Please give me a second here. I want to make sure I'm addressing everything you pointed out. So to start, the blueprint is very much a collaborative report. So we are very much seeing this as our office convenes our partners at the state, local, county levels to ensure that we're providing the appropriate services to people when they need them throughout the housing continuum. So I believe I did mention when we had a chance to pull up on this, Alder, I'm very much working with DFSS, along with our partners at the state and local levels, and county levels, to ensure that we have systems alignment. So I will go through the chair, if possible, to be able to get specific details for you through those processes and give you an update on where we are with that.The shelter situation is, I also mentioned this when we were doing briefings, so understanding that there are some areas left to be desired within our shelter system. I'm working with DFSS directly on doing individual basis visits. So I have already started working with Commissioner Green and her team over there that does this work. We're going out to visit shelters so I could get a first-hand account of what's going on. We're also pulling up with each one of our delegates to make sure that we are addressing any sanitary issues, any concerns that we have on file from our agencies who are currently working in the shelter system. And then we're launching, as needed and as appropriate, individual investigations. And I was able to share with you that there are some of those that the commissioner and I are currently talking about, and one in particular that's underway. And then the employment piece is, so within the blueprint, we very much talk about our pillars work. So we're dividing this work with seven pillars. Those pillars will be emergency services, housing, healthcare, employment, education, community cohesion, and systems alignment. So the education and employment pillar will specifically focus on employment from the traditional sense, right? So people who are looking for employment to prevent housing insecurity. But in addition to that, we are also ramping up efforts to ensure that we have employment programs within the shelter system. We found it in the blueprint then that less than 5% of our respondents are currently receiving employment services as they're within the shelter system. So that has been highlighted as an area of improvement on our behalf and also a key initiative as we move forward. Is there some conversation, I know we have a couple of city shelters, is there some conversation about the city getting into housing, or is that ever a conversation or recommendations? Because I feel like people are in shelters, and they're in there longer than there should be because we don't have available housing or enough landlords to actually get people out of shelters. I know that the goal is to get folks out of shelters, but is there conversation about the city of Chicago actually having its own housing so that we can get folks out of shelters? So I'm going to defer that question to a representative from the Department of Housing today. But I will say, coming out of the blueprint, we have highlighted a couple of things that could be key in that initiative, such as developing a proactive rental registry, working and facilitating anti-eviction work groups, and also we're very much committed, and these are things that are underway right now, developing a renters' rights work group where we will have resources and also policy that we plan on coming out of that. We're also really looking into figuring out how to work more directly and more proactively with CLIF so that we can provide independent landlords housing subsidies to be able to assist with the housing crisis. I think that you're right in alignment, right? Homelessness is a housing problem. And so we are working, I cannot speak directly to whether the city plans on building, but this is very apparent to us. And so we're trying to figure out how we can make sure we have more partnerships between public and private entities to increase the housing. Yeah, the CLIF numbers have went down in a bunch of wards. And so is there conversation about how do we raise revenue to add more landlords to those programs? Because they, I want to say in '20 and in '05, those numbers have dwindled a lot. And so I know in the States, they made some mistakes with the legislation, thinking they were helping, and they actually hurt. And so how are you going to connect with the state and the county to reassure that the stuff that they're implementing doesn't hurt what we're actually doing in the city? Yes, ma'am. So also in the blueprint, that'll come out of our systems alignment pillar. So that pillar, myself will be chairing that. I've requested a number of elected officials. I'm very open to all elected officials who are interested in joining that pillar to join that. I'm also in that pillar with Chief Haley, representatives from county, representatives from the state, so we have a senator on there as well. And so we are going to be, as priorities come out and initiatives come out of the blueprint, we're going to ensure that across the entire system. So, everyone who you just mentioned, we will be in alignment in terms of how the rollout will happen with initiatives and making sure that the feasibility and viability are there prior to implementation. Is there somebody from the Department of Housing there? I've been working with the commissioner at the Department of Housing. I heard your feedback the other day, and so I will be emailing the commissioner again today to follow up. Our schedules just have not been in alignment, but they are identified. That group will not move forward without a representative from the Department of Buildings and Housing. Because there was some information that they gave us a while back, and I don't know if folks on the housing committee remember, about 49,000 vacancies. But those 49,000 vacancies weren't broken up until, what are they market rent? Are they CHA, they're HUD? And so that is some of the work that needs to be done to figure out those 49,000 vacancies and where we could actually put people at. And looking at all the programming, that's another issue I feel like... something that you all need to take on. There are millions of programs that people don't know about. They don't know how to take advantage of them. We don't, and so I'm excited about this list that folks are putting together, but that also needs to include you all in that work. Thank you. Thank you, Alderperson. And I think that my colleague, Matt Stern from Housing, wanted to comment as well. Thank you, First Deputy Mayor. Thank you, Alderwoman, for the question. For the record, Matt Stern, Deputy Commissioner with the Housing Department. We certainly agree and affirm with many of the data points and calls that you made in your comments, Alderwoman. Obviously, getting folks into housing is critical to alleviating pressure on the shelter system, and it's something that we work with the mayor's office and DFSS with on a very regular basis. To your question specifically about the city producing housing that can serve as an outflow. Traditionally, of course, our low-income housing tax credit and CDBG-funded pipeline of affordable housing developments has been that program. I will note that the Green Social Housing program, which was passed by Council last year, is also working very actively on establishing itself and will be another opportunity for units to be created. And I also want to specifically call out the work that the Housing Department has been doing over the last couple of QAP, Qualified Allocation Plan, cycles, to make sure that we are prioritizing the funding and development of permanent supportive housing. Which very specifically serves as an opportunity, both from a services perspective and from an expected income perspective, for folks currently residing in shelter and transitional housing to move into permanent housing, and thus create space in the shelter system for additional folks. So I'm happy to further elaborate if you'd like, but I appreciate the question. Yeah, I appreciate that. I want to make something very clear. We are building affordable housing. The problem is, once that affordable housing is done, the folks who are managing them don't do a good job in making sure that we do good outreach, that people actually who've been on waiting lists forever actually gets on them. And so you find people who just lucked up or happened to come to a community meeting or find a flyer will get housing before people who've been waiting forever. I spent 30 years on a CHA waiting list, and I came up on the list, what, three years after being an alderman. And while I thought it was the sickest thing ever, it was funny because it's like, now I'm going to always need affordable housing because we don't have rent control in the city. And so imagine getting called when actually you can't use it because of your income. And so we got to do, and I hope that you all work very closely with CHA and HUD because we know the plans for transformation failed, and we still have folks who have not got housing, or they don't even live in the city of Chicago no more. And so I'm grateful that you came up with this five-year plan, but I want to see it executed yesterday. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, all. Thank you, Alderwoman Taylor. We have Alderperson Manar Happeworth, followed by Alderman Villegas, and then we have Alderperson Mitz as well. Alderwoman Manar Happeworth. Thank you, Chair. I want to say welcome, Jonah. I missed the briefing. I was not in town, but you have a huge job ahead of you, and I want to say that the 48th Ward is here to help. I actually spent the morning at Margate Park. Today, there was a scheduled cleanup, and so we had all the people out, and I walked with Chicago for Homelessness, they were there too, to oversee. There were mutual aid groups there, and I had a chance to talk to many of the residents in the tents, especially the women. And I want to say that it's very basic what they want. They don't want shelter, actually. If there is shelter available, they don't want to move out of the neighborhood that they created a community in, and they want to help their neighbors. They want to help their neighbors that are suffering from opioid and alcohol abuse and dependence. They want social services. They want healthcare. They want mental healthcare. And they're not getting that. They want restorative justice. They just want a safe place to live, and to lock their doors, and to have their clothes dry. So I just want to say that these folks actually have jobs. They sit on the board of nonprofits that are in the neighborhoods because they want a better neighborhood for everybody, including themselves. And I want to say that as a chief sponsor of the Green Social Housing Ordinance, which I'm so proud that we passed, it's not fast enough. People need help right now. So I just want to say that I'm here, and we have to accelerate what we're doing. Thank you. Thank you for that, Alder. Would you like for me to just expand on what we're doing right now or... Okay. So, this is heardI'm actually a member of the 33rd Ward, and my order also has a very community-based approach on how they approach the encampment work. When I accepted this role, I believe it was on the April 1st, and on the 2nd, the Commissioner Green and I at DFSS had a meeting specifically about how we approach our encampment work. Hmm. I will be the first to admit that the narrative that exists right now with us having this Whac-A-Mole, top-down approach for what we're doing is not acceptable. Commissioner Green and I are both in agreement with that. DFSS as a team are both in agreement with that. Prior to expanding on this, I'd also like to credit the DFSS team and the street outreach program for the work that they do. So, at a lot of Ronan Park is the encampment right now that I'm dealing with. We have delegate agencies out there five days a week. We are making sure that things like wound care is there, services are there. This morning, we launched a citywide response for the care team, which is our behavioral healthcare approach to people who are in crisis when they need it. So we have lots of programs from across the city that we are already activating, we are already working on. I also will admit that it's not enough. And so Commissioner Green and I are working really diligently to ensure that we develop an encampment strategy that is, one, very human based, right? That provides safety and dignity for everyone who is involved. And again, it'll be very much human centered. So our goal is to move away from what has been referred to as the sweeps or shutting down encampments, and really integrating what we find is working in terms of our current social services and healthcare outreach. So we'll be launching a couple new initiatives that are listed within the blueprint around behavioral healthcare, around social supports, around housing placements, and even really how we do that type of work. So that is something, I guess I'm saying all this to say that's something that has been noted that we're currently working on. Very much looking forward to working with your office, and your offices to get feedback in terms of... Because I also understand that this is all different work from ward to ward, right? The level of community involvement, the things that are being required of us and our delegate agencies is all going to be very individual. But the approach that we want to take towards it will be cohesive, it will be human centered. I come from social work, I come from crisis assessment, I come from violence prevention, so my job is to make sure that we're bringing this back to really humanize and allow people in the city to see the humanistic approach that we're taking to this. But very much a priority. Thank you so much for raising awareness on it, and happy to work with you and the ward, and constituents within your ward as we do this work. Thank you, Alderwoman. Alderman Villegas, followed by Alderwoman Metz. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm glad that green social housing was brought up because there's actually two components to green social housing, right? So there was the component around creation of the board, new construction, and the second component, which is the part around existing infrastructure that you can ultimately rehab and get online quicker. So while we're waiting for the green social housing, the board, and all of that other infrastructure to take place, what are we doing around the other part of the green social housing, which was negotiated, that allows for existing buildings that are vacant to come online at a reduced cost, which are maybe a third to half the cost of building affordable units. So where are we at with that process? And Mr. Chairman, if this is not the venue to get that response, I would request that at some point we could have a hearing around where we're at with green social housing, given the fact that there's a $1.25 billion bond that was passed, as well as the need to get people in heads and beds quick. So if it's appropriate, I can get a response. If not, I'd love to see if we could have further discussion around this, Mr. Chairman. Yeah. Do you want to just- Sure ... add, and then we're happy to have a- Thank you ... a more expanded conversation. But go ahead. Thank you, Alderman. Again, Matt Stern, Deputy Commissioner of the Housing Department, for the record. So yes, we're very excited about our progress on the social housing program. The board was seated last year and has been working to establish the beginnings of the nonprofit. And we are just beginning to hire and actually launch the organization as an independent organization. So we're expecting to see developments progress this fall. The new construction and the rehab and acquisition authorization under the ordinance are both authorizations for the nonprofit to work in. And so the movement of any potential acquisition rehab project, like any new construction project, also hinged on the establishment of the organization and the hiring of staff. So that's the short answer. Both elements of the program remain so authorized and directed by council for CRIF to pursue. And we're hoping this fall begins some pursuit of properties in earnest. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Alderman Villegas, and we're happy to report back as we move along with the green social housing. We have Alderwoman Metz next Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First I would like to be added for the purpose of the quorum. Yes, putting you added on the quorum. Thank you. In my hearing of the briefing that we had, can you talk a little about how this process, in terms of consolidating all the effort, and where do people call if they're looking for affordable housing, and what line? Is that going to be with 311? If you can explain that for me. Yes, ma'am. Thank you so much for the question, Alderperson. So the numbers will still be the same in terms of operations. So we're not changing the entry points for the way that people are currently utilizing entry points into our housing system. So that number will still be the same. With the Mayor's Office of Homelessness now being in origination, we do get quite a few constituent concerns on a daily basis. So we're also establishing ourself as an entry point, and we can coordinate. But in terms of operationally, we're still working across the full entirety, the totality of the systems that we have in place, and the full force of government is behind this. So the 311 entry system is still going to be the number that we want to call, and there are variations of it. So sometimes that'll come through a connection with CPD. There will be times where people are working directly with DFSS. So all of those venues will still be open. And additionally, I have to continue to highlight this, but with Care going citywide today, that'll also be another area where we have an entry point into this. And for the youth, how are we going to be addressing youth homelessness, as we're talking about homelessness? Is that going to come through this agency now working with DCFS? So we will still be able-- Thank you for the question, Alder, we'll still be able to bring them in through DFSS. I'm actually really glad that you asked that because something that I've been working on as well is establishing specific CPS schools as entry points, and so this is something that we're discussing in terms of piloting right now. But we found that with the disproportionate number of youth and students who are facing housing instability and homelessness in our city, that there's a lot more work to be done in terms of our partnership with CPS and also our community colleges. So we are having conversations with them right now in terms of creating a navigation system within CPS schools that will liaise essentially with DFSS, they'll be trained on our HMIS systems, so that when appropriate and when necessary, representatives from within the school will be able to get families on the wait list for housing. So that is something that will be piloted hopefully later this year. We're finishing up the details right now on it. Help me understand if I'm correct, that there's no amount attached any different? These are departments working across lines to implement this program. A dollar amount. You're asking about the dollar amount? Yes. So it will be a combination of both. So we currently do have over 100 programs, to the tune of roughly $340 million doing this work. So we're investing significantly in these programs right now. Some of that will be the reallocation of our current resources to support initiatives that are coming out of the blueprint. But also understanding that this is a very large, multi-layered problem. We know that the budget and additional cost is going to be a concern to people. So as we approach the pillars work and our work groups are coming up with initiatives that we will be piloting in years two through five, throughout the five years of this process, we're also identifying corporate partners, we're identifying grants that will allow us to pilot. And philanthropy is actually on the table, and we're still pursuing dedicated funding to support with this work. So we will be working with electeds, our partners in the community, our partners really everywhere doing this work to make sure that as we develop interventions and pilot them, we're also connecting those to appropriate funding streams. That may or may not be a reallocation of current funding or a new line of funding that we've developed within our pillars work groups. Right. One other question I have, and that is regarding landlords, homeowners who are renting their property. At some point in time, I understand that you're going to be trying to... They have to come online, and you'll be looking into if any discrepancies is being givenIn the selections of tenants. Can you explain that? I'm so sorry, Alderperson, I didn't catch. You said at some point in time I'll be facing- Well, at some point in time during this process of the pilot program, you're looking to expand it, correct? To include more of homeowners that are offering lower rent. I'm not sure. Are you- Are you not ... are you potentially referencing AHAD right now? Yes. Alderwoman, I think that is the third item. Okay. So yeah. We'll get to that. Sorry for the mix-up. Okay. We're just finishing up the homelessness report. Okay. Very good. All right, thank you. That'll be it for me. Thank you so much, Alderperson. I appreciate it. Okay. Thank you, Alderperson. If there's no other questions, can I renew the motion from Alderperson Manapapantworth? Or there was... Oh, Alderwoman Clay, sorry. No, you're okay? Okay. So renew the motion by Alderperson Manapapantworth to move on this item. All those in favor say "aye." Those opposed say "nay." In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation of this ordinance will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May 20th, 2026. Thank you, Joanna, and the members of the DOH for your report. Thank you so much. We'll follow up soon. Next, we have a substitute for the next item. Changes to the ordinance will be explained by the lead sponsor. Copies of the substitute have been emailed or handed out to committee members in your packets. Item number two is an aldermanic introduction from Alderwoman Clay, Substitute Ordinance 2026-0024086, Amendment of Municipal Code Sections 14X-18-08-802.2.2 and 14X-8-82-3.2, to modify dates for minimum temperature requirements in dwelling units, sleeping units, and indoor occupiable work spaces. Can I get a motion to accept the substitute? So moved by Alderwoman Rosana Rodriguez Sanchez. All those in favor say "aye." All those opposed say "nay." In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, the substitute is before us. The briefings on this item were held also last month, and all committee members received a one-pager via email in your packets today. Everybody has that on your packets. Otherwise, let us know. We'll have the lead sponsor, Alderwoman Clay, who will speak on the item, and then we'll also be joined by Grant Ulrich, Managing Deputy Commissioner of DOB, to answer any questions. Alderwoman Clay, are you going to start us? We're checking on you often. There we go. Thanks for checking on me, Chairman. And thank you so much to my colleagues who sit up here. Also, thank you to the audience. I know every time we have another committee meeting, it turns into more than what you bargained for. But that's democracy- ... right? So appreciate you all for being a part of the process. And what I'm proposing today is basically that our neighbors came to us. My ward, you all, for some of you who do not know, is in the 46th Ward. We are one of the densest wards in the entire city of Chicago. My largest, highest building has 50 stories. Right? And so as you can imagine, living in some of these units as we are encountering climate change, that's also heavily affecting the livability in some of the units of these buildings when it comes to the temperatures changing. And a lot of these buildings along the lakefront and other parts of the city are really historic. Some of them over 100 years old. And so their heating and cooling system is interconnected, right? And because of that, we currently require you to have the temperature set in a unit at a certain degree, and all we're trying to do, you all, is give a buffer to that. So we're trying to be a little bit more flexible, open the period to when you have to have it at that minimum temperature in the spring by a month, and then in the fall going into the winter months by two weeks. And I know you're like, "Wow, two weeks." No, that's a huge deal because as our temperatures change, people are in their homes, some of them who are our elders, living in really inhumane conditions because of the heat, right? And so we're trying to be as thoughtful as possible and take into account people's livability and the climate's changing, and also collaborating. We did a really extensive outreach to our lakefront alders. We included our neighbors and our business partners. BOMA was especially crucial in this because we wanted to talk to the building operators. I want to talk to my engineers. I know the folks who will be pulling the plug on this, so wanted to get their feedback, and they were thoroughly supportive of this. So, here for any questions. It's called the Flexible Heat Ordinance. It's my first legislative passage. So really excited about this and really hope that I can gain your support. All right. Alderwoman Hadden? Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but since it's your first- ... your first legislative effort, I want to commend Alderwoman Clay on this difficult but meaningful work. So I know there were some comments from the public comment as well, and for those listening in the audience Sometimes the problems that we're called upon to solve as legislators don't necessarily seem like the big ones, right? We're here, we're talking about solving for homelessness and housing. But I'll say that this is meaningful. And it's great work to bring together so many of the stakeholder groups to do this. In 2022, we worked on some legislation that touched on this a little bit, but mainly from the other side. And giving the flexibility around the heating, particularly for these two-pipe systems, is going to save lives. Right? We lost three senior citizens in a building in my ward due to a heat wave in May. Which, as we are here in May, and it's been chilly all this week, it's hard to think about. But climate change is real, and this is having a huge impact. So I'm really excited to support this. Thank you for bringing this up. Thank you for taking all the time to work on this. And knowing that Grant and DOB is well-versed in this, but also to my colleagues and I guess residents in the community, things are continually changing. So what we've got before us is going to be the thing that works for us now. But there's a reason why we have jobs and our code evolves. And I'm really glad that, and it speaks a lot about you as an alderperson, that your community members were facing a problem and brought something to you. All that to say, in two or three years, we don't know what the climate's going to be, but you guys might have to come back to Alderwoman Clay again for any amendments. But this is fantastic, and just happy to support this. Thank you for doing this. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. Any other alderpersons? Otherwise, can I have a motion to move on this item? So moved by Alderperson Fuentes. All those in favor say aye. All that oppose nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. And congratulations, Alderwoman Clay. The do pass recommendation of this substitute ordinance will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May 20th, 2026. And Alderman Clay, actually, you had perfect attendance today. So you actually bring the good items in front of us. Keep bringing them on. Thank you so much. We have a substitute ordinance for the next item as well. Changes to the ordinance will be explained by the lead sponsor. Copies of the substitute have been emailed and handed out to committee members in your packets. Item number three is an aldermanic introduction by Alderwoman Hadden, Substitute Ordinance 2024-0012422, Amendment to Municipal Code Title 5 by adding new Chapter 5-30, entitled Centralized Listing Portal Working Group Ordinance. Can I get a motion to accept the substitute? So moved by Alderperson Anna Appenworth. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The substitute is now before us. All committee members were invited to attend briefings last week on this item. We also have received a one-pager via email in your packets. You're all going to see that today. We'll have the lead sponsor, Alderwoman Hadden, give the opening remarks, and Emily Coffey from the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights, Don Washington for Chicago Housing Initiative, to also add to this important ordinance. Sean Mills from AHAD Coalition and Edwin Ortiz Reyes, Director of Planning, Research, and Development for DOH also are here, and Donovan Harvey, Director of Housing from the mayor's office, also here to respond to any questions by committee members. So we start by the chief sponsor of this ordinance, Alderwoman Hadden. Thank you, Chair. I hope we are as maybe brief as item number two. Maybe we don't need to talk too much. So I want to thank the committee for considering this item. What you have before you in the one-pager, the Substitute Centralized Affordable Housing Listing Portal Ordinance. You heard from many public speakers. So I'll start with SHY, other community organizations, individuals. For years, including our own Alderwoman Taylor, we've all heard the issues with how difficult it is to find affordable housing in Chicago and to navigate the multiple systems of wait lists. So where we started with this ordinance predates this term even, right? But solving this issue. So we are using public funds through LIHTEC funds, through ARO units to support affordable housing throughout the city. We want to have, I think, what was it? Heads in beds was the term, right? We're trying to get people in the units. As an alderperson, you all know residents call, they come into our office, and they're looking for housing. Whether it's, hey, their building's been purchased, somebody's rehabbing, they have to leave. Their living situation's changed. They're aging in place. They need a place that's accessible. There are many reasons why, in our lives and what we see in our offices, constituents need help finding housing. And right now, the tools we have available to us vary drastically. Do you have a nonprofit in your community that, like we do, Northside Community Resources, that works with us to manually call apartment buildings and landlords and see what's available? Do you have a large development with a lot of ARO units? It's really the experience that you have, as you heard from some of the public speakers, really depends on where you live, and that shouldn't be the case.You also heard from speakers, the frustration, right? In how much money we put towards housing in trying to develop and maintain affordable housing, and how for the money that we're putting out, sometimes our constituents feel like they're not seeing the output of that. Right? They're not benefiting from it. So what's before you today is what we believe is the best way to solve this issue. Working with Ida, working with the Department of Housing, we plan to use an existing portal. While it's a little clunky, it's not our favorite, but Illinois Housing Search, Ida's website currently already has 3,700 affordable units listed. Working with the department and talking to some of the housing providers, we've also recognized there are a lot of systemic kind of procedural things that make it bureaucratically difficult to go from our affordable units to matching things easily with residents. We know that what we eventually want to provide is a really user-friendly, multilingual, accessible tool that any one of our constituents can easily use to find the housing units that are available. But it's going to take a little more than fantastic tech partners, like Sean, to create the tools. We need to also work with the departments and all of our stakeholders in order to figure out the process problems that are going to allow us to create that portal that really makes people's lives easier. So, thanks to Ida for agreeing to work with us in this portal. We'll be able to use an existing tool without any cost to work with willing stakeholders, from people who've been looking for housing and community partners to housing providers who work with LIHTAC and ARO units, the Department of Housing, CHA, and Ida, in order to kind of figure out our process. So this working group would work over the next two years, we look for them to start in August, to solve these problems, work out the process issues, and come forth with a recommendation on the portal that could also streamline that application process for the units. So, this is what we're seeking to do. I appreciate those who attended the briefings. And Chairman, I know that my lead co-sponsor, Chairman Villegas, also wants to say a bit about this work. Go ahead, Alderman Villegas. Thank you, Chairman, and thank you, Chairwoman Hadden, for leading on this. My interest in this is, as someone who grew up in Chicago Housing Authority and my mom was a renter for over 20 years. Making it easier for folks in the city of Chicago that want to find housing, especially affordable housing, is the right thing to do. My other reason for getting on board with this is, as a veteran, it's that community that's often spoken about when we talk about homelessness, and I want to thank my colleagues in this council for earlier this term passing an ordinance that took a look at setting aside 10% of affordable units for veterans for 30 days in order to capture some of the VASH vouchers there. And so as veterans are coming back and are transitioning from serving our country, I think it's incumbent that they have the opportunity and an easy way to access units that are available, especially for those that have VASH vouchers. And so I want to thank my colleague from the 49th Ward for putting forward this compromise and getting this working group put together so that way we can finally get something done. But I hope it takes less than two years. Because the reality is that what we're seeing here in government is that we have these big issues, and there isn't a sense of urgency from government. And so I would hope that this mission gets accomplished quicker. But I do want to thank my colleague, as well as the working group that brought this initially to Alderwoman Hadden and I, because this was a great initiative and I'm glad that we're finally at this point. And at the proper time, Mr. Chairman, I would hope that all our colleagues support this. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to start first with, I think Don and Emily for remarks, and then we're going to open it up for questions for the rest of the panel. Or Leslie? Good afternoon. Oh, sorry. Leslie first. Hi, Chairman. Sorry. My name's Leslie Perkins. I'm Chief of Staff and Policy Director for Alderwoman Hadden. I do have a short presentation. I know the alderwoman covered most of it. I'm not sure if tech can help us. Thank you. Yeah. And for those who were able to attend briefings, thank you. This is going to be a little redundant for you. But just to kind of give a little bit of a 10,000 foot view of what we're trying to accomplish here with the substitute ordinance. With that, I am going to pass it over to Don Washington from the Chicago Housing Initiative. Hey, folks. Good to see you all. I want to apologize. I have a little bit of a chemo brain, so my mind is full of steroids, so I'm a little emotional today. That being said, let's get this where it actually works here. So what we have here is we talked about what was it that made us do this? This is a civil society public policy initiative, and it started with input from frontline CBOs, community-based organizations, and alders, like some of you alders, called my office saying, "I don't know what to do. Do you have housing?" I'm like, "You're the alder." So we had to develop a program, right? So people have hurdles. Right now, the stress is on people who are at their worst moment looking for housing. They have to do all the work. It's an uphill battle for them to find what they need. You don't have a tool to help them unless you have somebody that's immediately in your catchment of relationships. And you may not have relationships outside of your ward to get them the housing that it's available. And finally, the person just gives up. They're exhausted. So what do we do? We design this ordinance. It's got a pilot program that's on its feet, like Gil said. So there's a pilot program that's on its feet. It's going to be doing things in real time, that'll be taking input from the working group. So you'll see it's an interactive process happening in real time on the ground. The pilot program is connecting people. It's finding problems in process. The working group is coming up with solutions. The solutions get applied to the field. The field sees if it works. We decide it does work, or if it doesn't work, we stop it, we start it, and we find ways to have this be an interactive process where it's helping people in real time and solving problems in real time, the way the government is supposed to work. It also shifts the dynamic from people looking for housing to us, the system that's supposed to help them find it. We're also working with a number of philanthropic organizations, and they believe that we have found a way that will create a system that can transform this into a revenue maker for the city of Chicago, not just under the service that we should be providing already. Finally, this creates a tool that will provide the city council, this city council, but more importantly, in the future, there'll be people sitting in these chairs that will not be us. They will need a tool to help them help people in the same kind of situations. So we're creating a tool for the future for those folks that will allow you, the city council, to track every dollar of affordable funding that's being used to create every unit of affordable housing in the city so that you can see how effective each individual program is. If this is not what you need, then you're in the wrong work. I'm supposed to be nicer today, but like I said, steroids have got ahold of me. So last thing I want to say is, I want to thank also Alders Lampada and Taylor, who took this on in the darkest days when no one would talk to us, and they fought really hard to make this thing happen. And we've passed it along. It's changed, but I don't want to forget the people who took a lot of slings and arrows for us early on. So I'm going to give the mic back to Leslie to finish the presentation, but my work here is done. Thank you, Don. So as you've heard, this ordinance, the substitute ordinance, does two things. The first is it creates a pilot program that is ready to launch right away. Our Department of Housing has collaborated with the Illinois Housing Development Authority in order to strike an agreement that will allow our city to use ilhousingsearch.org to launch that pilot program right away. And immediately, there are over 3,700 affordable units that will be listed. Looking forward, all future affordable units that receive any city financing will be required to be listed on there. So if you're getting LIHTC funds, CLIF funds, our Green Social Housing Program, those will all be required to be listed on there. And then through the rulemaking process, ARO units will also be required to be listed on there moving forward. It is not a portal to list CHA units, but there will be buttons and links and whatnot in order to redirect and connect people to CHA's website. So what is the portal and the pilot program, and what it is isn't. So the city is not going to act as a property manager here. Housing providers are still responsible for maintaining their own processes on screening and application. So there's still a lot of autonomy and agencies afforded to our housing providers. The city is just simply providing this tool where it will make it easier for them to list their available units and to connect to prospective tenants. For tenants, it's going to really reduce the number of obstacles that Don just described that they have to look, and they will be able to go to one website, see what fits their needs and what part of the city. They'll be able to see what sort of leasing preferences there are, maybe disability preferences, maybe veteran preferences. Maybe they need a family size unit, right? They'll be able to see all of that. And the city here, again, they're not the property manager, but they are providing the tool in order to connect these two parties to each other, and they're going to make sure that the database remains secure. And we also have Sean here if you have any technical questions. He developed a website at afarhome.org. It's a really great interface, super user-friendly. He has already spoken with our Department of Technology and Innovation about opportunities to work with that code that he developed to improve the interface and the user experience while still drawing from that API from Ida's website. All right. The second component that you heard about is the working group. So during our briefings, I want to note that this list has not been updated, but we did update it to include aldermanic representation. So we'll have representatives from our Department of Housing, the Department of Technology and Innovation, our Chicago Continuum of Care, the Chicago Housing Authority, Ida, Philanthropy, affordable housing NGOs, so those that are property managers or build or develop affordable housing, and then community-based organizations that work with tenants trying to find affordable housing. And then we'll have aldermanic representation on there as well with the chair to the committee on housing and real estate. And the working group will also have to consult with at least five aldermen from different regions of the city to make sure that they are getting a diversefeedback and experiences in navigating our affordable housing web. They're going to make recommendations and explore a bunch of different needs. So starting with budget and staffing, right, top of everyone's mind always. They're going to see what the long-term costs are, both for the technology as well as the city side for any sort of maintenance that the city needs and administrative work. But a part of that, as Don mentioned, is they might also explore opportunities to generate revenue or defray costs through philanthropic and civic partnerships. We've already been in touch with Metropolitan Planning Council and Great Cities Institute, and they're excited to explore that with the city here. They're also going to see what it would take to make the permanent portal and what sort of information we want listed on there, so leasing preferences, accessibility features, wait list period, eligibility and requirements. They'll also explore what sort of reporting we want from our Department of Housing as well as property owners. So, what sort of data? What sort of demographic data? What sort of occupancy rates, vacant unit turnover time does the city need? And how frequent are we looking to get that? And what that's going to do ultimately is that's going to give us more data as a city to see how effective our affordable housing funding decisions are and be better prepared to make those moving forward as well. And then they'll work on a universal application to further reduce some of those barriers that tenants have. And then work with delegate agencies that can serve as registration sites. As Alderwoman Hadden mentioned, many of us have nonprofit organizations in our ward that help tenants already. So how can we go through a process to make sure that people know where to go other than an alderman's office to get help in getting connected to affordable units? So the working group, once the ordinance is passed and published, it will be established 45 days. And then once it's established, it will meet about approximately 30 days after that. There is a minimum, so this is the floor, not the ceiling. They'll be required to meet a minimum of three times during the first six months, and then once every six months thereafter. Of course, they can choose to meet more frequently. They will be observing the pilot program, making recommendations as needed, and also looking at the data that they get from it in order to make their final recommendations. We already talked a lot about the purpose, so we know this is to just connect people to the existing units that we have that can be really complex to identify and locate. At the end of the two-year period of the pilot program, the working group will submit a written report outlining its recommendations to this committee and the Department of Housing and DTI. So just looking at a timeline. We had briefings on May 8th. We're here today for committee. We're hoping you guys will favorably consider this. And then if this passes this committee today, it will go before city council next week. That pilot program is ready to go live immediately. Early July, we'll have the working group established. Early August will be their first meeting. In June 2028, the pilot would sunset, and then October 2028, that final report will be due to this committee. So that is our presentation. I will open it up, and I'm happy to go back and forth between slides if need be. Thank you. So we'll start with Alderman Burnett, followed by Alderman Clay. Thank you. Oh, no. Oh, follow me. It's Scott. Sorry about that. I'm just following the... We keep calling Alderman Clay. Alderman Burnett followed by Alderman Scott. Thank you. First, I want to say thank you to Alderwoman Hadden and her team for doing the work to get this to the stage. I'm a little jealous. I would've loved to be the one to introduce something like this, because it's so important. As Alderman Vegas noted, there are so many issues with our system in order to get, whether it's veterans, disabled folks, or anyone who's, to your point, at the moment of crisis, a house or a place to live is really challenging in our system. And it shouldn't be as hard with the amount of technology that exists in this world, but we all know how bureaucratic systems can work. So this is a great first stage in order to get a system in place in order to simplify a lot of these processes. And in my ward, we have a ton of ARO units that no one really understands how to get into. And it ends up being the same cycle of individuals who switch between new units as they continue to become developed, which isn't the full purpose of what this housing is for. And so I just want to ask some questions just so that we know as this program continues to go on and we do the pilot, that we are including the stakeholders in the process of learning how to engage with this tool as well. And making sure that developers who are housing a lot of these ARO units have a understanding and education on how to upload their units, how folks can engage with their, I don't know if it's their property management system or whatever they use in order to actually rent it. But even more so, how do we simplify and work with the Department of Housing on making sure folks who are qualified for these units go through one check and one process? And so I just want to ask questions about what is the... And I know this is still early because there's a whole process and a couple year framework in order to get this study going. But how much thought has gone into the engagement between the private development community and our-... city departments in order to make sure that they're engaging together on this process. Thank you, Alderman. So yeah, we wanted to make sure that there is a seat at the table for the working group for our developers, so they will have representation there. Another thing that we heard as we were engaging with various stakeholders in the development of this was some of the bureaucratic obstacles that housing providers face in getting tenants approved sometimes. So part of the working group recommendations is also going to be to weigh in on how to streamline that ARO approval process on the city side. So, that is something that wasn't in the original ordinance that we added to the substitute. Awesome. And if we can go back to the timeline piece, and I appreciate this, to understand when the pilot launches and the reporting, the establishment of the working groups. To the point you just made about the bureaucratic processes, there are going to be some stages of this where we're going to have to change the way that we engage with our Department of Housing. So I would implore you to come back to us earlier than not, where you're hearing or seeing that there's major hiccups, so that if there's anything the council could do in order to write it into ordinance to make this an easier process for this system, please do. I want the feedback earlier than not. This is going to be an iterative process. No disrespect to any developer out there, but the engagement portion of this, and understanding how we deal with the most vulnerable people, it's going to take time for us to get that right. And so if there's things that we can do from a city perspective to ease that process, and we're not, to Alderman Villegas's point, waiting two years down the road realizing that we have to structurally change the way that our departments engage. I would prefer that to happen first. I think I appreciate that, Alderman. And I'll say, I think to Don's point, our goal for this is to be able to have some of that real-time data. And then just one more thing I'll say is, if you are an alderperson interested maybe in being on the working group, please let Chairman Sigcho-Lopez know. And similarly, if you're working with developers or housing providers, especially working with LIHTC or ARO units and you're in conversation with them, we don't have a list of people for the working group already, and I think we've tried to been encouraging people to start thinking about some recommendations for who should be in some of those seats. That would be helpful. Well, I'm happy to be involved on both sides. So, Chairman, please write me down for that list. And thank you all. Noted. Thank you. And Alderman Scott. You were on-- Okay, fantastic. Now Alderman Clay. For real this time. I just wanted to say thank you to my colleague for putting this together because I feel like particularly in our neck of the woods, we deal with neighbors from all walks of life. But the one thing that we hear consistently is, "Where can I find affordable housing?" And as a young college student at DePaul, graduating soon and googling, "Where can I find affordable housing in the city of Chicago?" And trying not to get scammed, right? Is a huge lift. When you factor in accessibility, when you factor in disabilities, it makes a huge difference to just have one place that you can have reliable data, not something that was there from 10 years ago and the phone number doesn't work. And accurate listings, right? Because a lot of the places that we are seeing don't match the photo. Right? So this, when we talk about saving lives, this is going to save so many lives because people will have this data accessible to them. I hope that we translate it in multiple languages. I have so many ideas. So Chairman, I hope you put me down on that working group, because I think that this is going to transform accessibility to not just affordable housing, but quality housing in our neck of the woods. So kudos, Chairwoman. Thank you, Alderman Clay. Any other questions? Otherwise, can I get a motion? Oh, Alderman LaSpada. Sorry, I didn't see you there. No, it's less a question than a comment and- Mm-hmm ... a thanks for the work that went into this, for the time that went into it. Because you're not just solving this for renters, as you pointed out. For our staff, when people come in, now we have a tool to be helping them. And I can tell you almost as much as I hear from renters, you do hear from landlords and housing providers, particularly with the ARO units, who say consistently, "The biggest challenge for us is finding tenants who are approved in a timely fashion." And I just want to take a moment to go back to public comment, because government can be really cynical. Sometimes, and sometimes in a justified way, there can be cynicism in the comments that are made. But to hear, particularly our guests and our constituents from Access Living, told that their comments and their words fall on deaf ears, I hope some of them have an opportunity to listen to this after the fact, because that is a demonstrably false and cynical statement.Your words, your advocacy matter. Your ability to live safely and affordably and comfortably in the city of Chicago matters. And regardless of what they heard or were told in this room today, I hope this legislation that is passing today and will pass again on Wednesday is a rebuke to that kind of cynicism. Thank you very much. Thank you for your work. Thank you, Alderman. And with that, we make a motion, Alderman, to move on this item, but enthusiastically by Alderman Espada, and actions do speak louder than words. So thank you so much for... And all the advocates, I want to congratulate you for your perseverance. I know that persistent advocacy is something to be admired. So I want to thank every single one of you for coming, and I want to congratulate you by Alderman Espada moving to pass. All those in favor say aye. All opposed nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The do pass recommendation will be reported out at the next City Council meeting on May 20, 2026. Congratulations, everybody, again. Item number four is ordinance 2026-0024945, sale of city-owned property at 4321, 4323, 4324, 4327, 4329, 4333, 4335, 4339, 4341, and 4343 South Langley Avenue, and 724, 736, 738, and 744 East 44th Street in Ubuntu Village to Sunshine Management LLP under the Tribe Block Builder and City Lots for Working Families in the 4th Ward. Brian O'Donnell from the Department of Housing is going to be presenting, and we're just going to allow a few minutes for the transition. Yeah. So we got Alderman Ben Accenworth, Alderman Clay, Alderman Burnett. No. Mm-hmm. All right. Thank you so much. Oh, there we go. All right. Thank you. So we have the item in front of us is Brian O'Donnell from Department of Housing to talk about this Tribe Block Builder and City Lots for Working Families in the 4th Ward. Mm-hmm. All right. We all ready, Brian? All right. Good afternoon, Chairman Sergio Lopez and committee members who stayed. For the record, my name is Brian O'Donnell, representing the Department of Housing, Home Ownership, and Neighborhood Preservation Bureau. Also present on my left is Bonita Harrison of Sunshine Management Limited Liability Partnership. We are here today to ask for your favorable consideration for the sale of lots to facilitate the construction of Ubuntu Village under the City Lots for Working Families program, City Lots hereafter for the sake of brevity, in the 4th Ward. At its essence, the word Ubuntu highlights the interdependence of individuals, asserting that one's humanity is defined through relationships with others. The word embodies values such as compassion, generosity, empathy, and mutual respect, promoting the well-being of the community. Here is a list of the 14 lots which are to be sold for $1 each, as called for under the City Lots program. The total land value is just over a million dollars, and the sale will result in the construction of 14 buildings as 11 three-unit buildings and three two-unit buildings, which are proposed. Thirty-nine three-bedroom dwelling units would be the result of a successful build-out. The lot values in the valuation column, which are higher than $64,000, would trigger a 30-year recapture mortgage for the home buyer. Things lower than that, the values are forgiven over five years. But those values do not trigger any reporting requirements for the developer. Last year's City Lots program amendment adjusted the triggering values for the mortgages and MBE/WBE and city resident hiring for inflation and allow the values to be adjusted annually. Here is a map showing the lot cluster. Most of the lots are on the 4300 block of South Langley, with the remainder along 44th Street. Under the City Lots program as amended last year, up to half of the buildings could be sold at market prices, the other half sold at prices determined to be affordable for households at 120% of the area median income. Under last year's program amendment, the home buyer income can go as high now as 150% of the area median income. Prior to the amendment, the buyer income could be as high as 140% of the area median income. But there's been no change in the pricing. That would just set at 120% AMI.This graphic is useful as it indicates the buildings A through K will be three flats, with units marked L, M, and N on the bottom being the two flats. Were home buyer closings to occur today, the below market two flat prices would be about $674,000, while the below market three flat price would be about $822,000. Of course, the earliest we might expect home buyer closings is 2027, and maximum prices would be calculated then. Over the last two years, 47 building permits for three-unit residences have been approved by the Department of Buildings and Grand Boulevard, represented here with red dots. 23 of these buildings have been built. Eight were sold as condominium buildings, and 15 were sold as three-unit buildings. The average market prices for the sales of three-unit buildings have been $1.13 million, with the median price slightly higher. New construction two-unit average prices are difficult to come by, but a recent sale was for $699,000. But that only hit a two-bedroom rental unit, not a three-bedroom unit. The estimated affordable prices are shown there in the bottom left of this slide. The current estimated total development cost for Ubuntu Village is $10.4 million. Each two-unit building TDC is estimated at $571,000, and each three-unit building is estimated to cost $767,000. As you recall, other than the sale of land for $1 and building permit fee reductions, the city provides no financial assistance to developers under the program. But we do offer BANNA subsidies to the buyers. The applicant has letters of intent from CIC and CCLF. DOH policy is a simultaneous closing of the RDA with the construction loans. The remaining slides, which I'll go through relatively quickly, show the variety of designs that will be built, including this one, which is a corner lot at 44th and Langley. Again, we are requesting your favorable consideration for the sale of 14 lots for $1 under the terms of the City Lots for Working Families program. If there are any questions, Bonita or I will try to answer them. Thank you. This concludes the presentation. Any questions by committee members? Alderman Mahan. Alderman Mahan. Thank you so much for the presentation. This looks very exciting. Mainly my question is because I was outside for most of your presentation, so I apologize. I'm done with our victory lap. I understand. If you could, just for me, what's a bit of your timeline, right? So, let's say this step is done. What are your best hopes on the timeframe? And with 14 lots, are you looking at phases of development? Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much. Hello, council. I appreciate you guys. Yes, we would do basically three phases. And so we typically take them in tranches of five. So the first five would start, say, day one, day zero. It normally takes us about 90 days to 120 days for a complete construction. At that point, we're pretty much finalized with that first phase. Second phase would start at that point as well, and then the third phase. So the absorption time for these units are less than 30 days on the market at market rate. We've already pipelined 42 buyers. We've been working with community organizations, Kenwood Oakland Community Organization, and It Takes a Village School. So we've already pipelined our buyers for this, so we expect our process to go a little bit quicker than normally. So it will happen in three tranches, so five, five, and three. Thank you. Alderman Clay. There we go. Just wanted to get more clarity on who you're using for construction and trades. Obviously, this is a huge project, and wanted to make sure that we have equal representation across the board, especially in our community. So if you could share a little bit more information about that. Absolutely. Thank you. Well, we are a vertically integrated company. So I have a general contracting company, which is Third Eye, so we would lead the construction of this. We've worked with our trades for over 20 years, and all of our trades are either Black or brown. So we have great representation in the community. So 100% of our trades are from the community, including our architects and surveyors are LR PAS, so they're also of the community. Structural engineer also is Black guy, so we have a lot of representation that represents the actual community. Thank you for that. If you could get a list of that through the chair, only because I'm developing in other parts of the city and want to make sure that we are collecting as much data on who's out there, who can we depend on, to also continue to build in other parts of the city. That was my question, Chair. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?Just a clarifying question. Is this about three units per lot, more or less? We have 10 three-units and three two-units. Okay. 11 three-units. 11. I'm sorry. 11. Okay. Just for the sake of clarity. That's all. Thank you so much. If there are not any questions, can I have a motion to move? So moved by Alder Womack-Hadden. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation of these ordinance will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May 20, 2026. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Thank you all. Thank you, and congratulations. Item number five is Ordinance 2026-0024951, sale of city-owned property at 4225 South St. Lawrence Avenue to Jacob Da Builder Inc., under Chi Block Builder in the 4th Ward. Thomas Bellino from the Department of Planning and Development is here to testify of this ordinance. Thank you, Thomas. Thank you. Good afternoon. For the record, my name is Thomas Bellino, at the Department of Planning and Development. I have two items today. The first one is requesting authorization for sale of city-owned land at 4225 South St. Lawrence Avenue. It is located in the 4th Ward, and we have the support of Alderman Robinson. This is one city-owned lot, and the applicant is offering market value price, which is $70,470. The applicant is Joseph Doschay, who runs Jacob Da Builder development firm. And the total development cost of this project will be 680,000 approximately. So I'm going to present two separate land sales that are basically identical, but they are separate, so we have to go through it twice. But you can see there, the street view of the current condition. On the left is the one that we're discussing now, 4225 South St. Lawrence. The zoning is RT4, and there is no proposed change. This proposed project complies with that zoning district. And an overview of the project is a construction of a three-unit rental masonry building and garage parking for three cars. The lot dimensions are 25 feet by 135 feet. For land disposition, net area of 3,375 feet, and the development area will be a little over 4,000 square feet. There's some detailed project financials there. And this is a site plan here with St. Lawrence Avenue on the left and the alley and proposed garage on the right. These are the elevations, the front-facing, the street-facing one being that upper left, and the sides and the rear being on the lower right. You can see the face brick is being extended relatively far down the side of the building at the request of DPD and the alderman. These are the floor plans here. And the third floor plan. The basement and first floor are one unit, and then the second floor and the third floor are each one unit as well. So that's all I have on this one. Happy to go back and answer any questions that you might have. Thank you, Thomas. Any questions by committee members? No questions. Otherwise, can I have a motion to move on this item? So moved. By Alderman Espada. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation of this item will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May 20th, 2026. Next item is item number six, Ordinance 2026-0024952, sale of city-owned property at 4231 South St. Lawrence Avenue to Jacob Da Builder, again, under Chi Block Builder in the 4th Ward. And Thomas Bellino again to present on this item. Hello. Good afternoon. Thomas Bellino again from Department of Planning and Development, requesting authorization for the sale of city-owned land at 4231 South St. Lawrence Avenue. Again, this is in the 4th Ward, and we have the support of Alderman Robinson. The applicant is offering market value, which is $71,617. There is the current condition, and now we're discussing the parcel on the right, 4231 South St. Lawrence. Zoning is the same, RT4, and the project complies with that zoning district. So there's no change proposed. And again, it's the construction of a three-unit rental masonry building and garage parking for three cars. Everything I stated in the previous item applies here as well. This is the site plan again, the elevations, and the floor plans. So I'm happy to go back and answer any questions. And I should have mentioned that Joseph Doschay is here, if you have any questions for him specifically. Thank you. Are there any questions by committee members? No questions. Can I get a motion then to move on this item by Alderperson Anna Happenworth? All those in favor say aye. All those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation of this ordinance will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May 20, 2026. Item seven is ordinance 2026, and thank you, Thomas. Thank you. Item number seven is ordinance 2026-0024948, sale of city-owned property at 1147 South Independence Boulevard to Rosede Property LLC under the Chi Block Builder in the 24th Ward. Meg Gibsonson from the Department of Planning is here to present on this item. Thank you, Meg. Thank you everyone. I have a fewIn a row here. My first one is a market-rate land sale. This is located at 1147 South Independence Boulevard. It is the sale of one PIN for full market value at $17,511. This is the zoning map. You'll see it outlined here in red, and the aerial. The car wash exists, and this would expand their footprint. They're also currently in for a zoning change concurrently. Or, yes, concurrently. Here is the site plan. You'll see the parcel to the top of the site is the expansion, and we have the support of Alderman Scott. Here's the support letter and an outline of their budget. I also have the applicants here if there are any detailed questions. Thank you very much. Thank you, Meg. Are there any questions by committee members? Or Alderwoman Scott, anything to add? 299 last count. Oh. Can you give her the mic? Yeah. And so, thank you. They opened a month ago, and so that extra space is needed. And like I said, it's filling up the vacant lots that we currently have. And so, thank you. Thank you. So, I have a motion to move by Alderman Espada. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation of this ordinance will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May 20, 2026. Item number eight, ordinance 20260024949, sale of city-owned property at 6800 and 6802 South Hermitage Avenue to Wood Street Collective LLC, under Check Block Builder in the 17th Ward. Meg Gustafson again from DPD to present on this item. Great. Thanks very much. Meg Gustafson, Department of Planning and Development. This land sale is for urban agriculture. It's located at 6800 through 6802 South Hermitage. It's two pins. Under the urban agriculture type, we sell these pins for $1 per parcel. The market value for both is $12,000. This is in Alderman Moore's ward, and he is supportive. Here it shows the zoning map, and the context photo. The budget that Wood Street Collective has presented is about $28,000. You can see their site plan on the right. This is going to be a fruit and nut tree orchard mostly. And they have a $99,000 grant from the Morton Arboretum. I have a photo here of a previous land sale from about a year ago at 6234 South Wolcott. Just for context, they're doing good things with gardens. And there is one of their greenhouses. I can now take any questions. Thank you. I'll go back to the site plan. Thank you, Meg. Screen. Oh, thank you. Is there any questions by committee members? Great. Alderman Espada? I mean, so many questions. Is this going to be indoor greenhouse? Because I struggle to figure out peaches growing in Chicago. Great question. I don't think I have anyone from Wood Street. Oh, there they are. Maybe Wood Street could answer some of these questions. Would you guys like to come up? Yeah, if you can please come to the front and just... Yeah. Please have a seat. You're welcome to come, or we can pass you the mic. Don't worry either way. Yeah, and it's always good to see the faces behind the names. Oh, yeah. Oh, sure. Please go ahead. If we can pass her the mic. And growing peaches. I actually lived over there. Oh. And I had the biggest, the prettiest, the sweetest peaches in Chicago. Very well. I'm waiting on your, I'm waiting on it. Please. Please. Sorry. Thank you so much. That's alright. We just want to collaborate. That's alright. That's the best advertising I got in all day, so Go ahead. If you can just please say your name and for the record. Yeah. Thank you all for having us today. I'm Martel, the executive director of Wood Street Collective. Wood Street Collective, we have been around for about two years. I'm actually a native of the Englewood community. Just being a part of the civil engagement, just being young. Yeah. Me and my friend, we actually found our inspiration in wanting to build these green spaces just starting off in these vacant lots, hosting barbecues, spoken words, and open mics, and we like, "Hey, let's get serious." And with a collective of our friends, it was by the grace of God and our community, we able to pull this thing off. And yeah, as a Black man myself, these, I would say urban spaces or green spaces were very unfamiliar to myself, but I meditate in these spaces now. I feed birds in these spaces now. And I would say the more our community members and us as an organization coexist in these spaces, we able to share relationships and our likeness. And we have folks from, I would say, Chicago Line, from the back of the yards, from West Englewood, from Englewood itself, come to our site and able to share just different diverse backgrounds, and that's what it's about, and that's what Chicago has been built on, so That's awesome. I really love it. I'll just close. I love it. I appreciate it. When y'all are set up, let the chair know, because we would love to come down and check it out. And after the first harvest, maybe we'll all make some pies together. Yes. I wanted to give a thank you shout-out to the Department of Planning. They actually shouted us out on their website, so thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Alderman Hadden. This is just more informational questions here. This is a great plan. I see the water access cost. What kind of water access are you guys going to be able to get? I know the hydrant's pointed there, but are they going to have some dedicated built into this water access for what you need? I'm going to actually give that question to my DOP. So you want to? Hi all. I'm Nathan Haefelin, Director of Operations with Wood Street Collective. Thank you all for having us today. So we put forward this plan, I think about a year ago when we made the initial block builder application. So, we only had wanted to speak on the confirmed funders that we had at that time. I can say that we have a few pending grant applications that we feel very optimistic about. So that water access budget line item is based on the, yeah, tapping into a hydrant, just having a seasonal permit to do that. But pending some of these successful grant applications, we are looking to fundraise for, yeah, a municipal water hookup. Those run upwards of $30,000, but would be a huge asset. It's something that we did previously at our other site. So, we worked closely with an Englewood plumbing company, and they gave us a great price, and we were able to move forward with that in a previous, yeah, Chicago Growers work. So yeah, if funding permitting, we would love to do that. And then my last thing is really just a comment. So would love contact information for you guys. Up in Rogers Park, we have a city-owned park, Triangle Park, where we, community members, started, I think it's probably been 10 years now, an apple orchard. So we have a small apple orchard community members tend and manage on some parkland. So yeah, Alderman Tejada, we don't have peaches, but I'm excited about that. So would love to connect you guys also with neighbors in my community who've been doing that work as well. Thank you. Thanks, Chair. Thank you, Alderman Hadden. Unless there's any other questions, I've got a motion to move by Alderman Hadden. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Any opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting on May 2026. Congratulations, and we'll be looking for those peaches soon, and everything else you produce. We're looking forward to it. Oh, man. Very exciting. Coming. Yes, please invite us. Going to your country. Very inspiring. Thank you so much. Please. Somebody was there for the '90s. Yeah. All right. Moving on. Item number nine, ordinance 2026.0024950, sale of city-owned property at 1150 and 1152 North Mayfield Avenue to Sewed Up Farms under the Check Block builder in the 29th Ward. Meg Gustafson again from DPD to present of this item. Thank you, Meg. Thank you. Meg Gustafson, Department of Planning and Development. This is an open space land sale at 1150 through 52 North Mayfield. It's two pins in Alderman Tallia Ferrel's ward, and we have his support. I have Shamika Jones here, who is the founder of Sewed Up Farms, a non-for-profit. This will be sold at 10% of market value as an open space, which is $4,354. You can see the location here at Division in Mayfield. And Shamika plans to do 15 raised garden beds and is working with Austin Coming Together and the Chicago Botanic Garden. Here are some site photos. This is actually an older site photo. We have been working with Green Corps, who cleared the site and has put up a new fence. Here is a little bit about Shamika and Sewed Up Farms. And here is the site plan. There will be an ADA-accessible bed, a wash and pack shed, or ADA-accessible beds, and then the production beds are in the middle. Here is a rendering, and then below is what the fence will look like that I think just went in last week that Green Corps put up for us. The total project cost is about $96,000, and a lot of grants have been applied for and awarded. And I'll let Shamika talk about more of this if you have detailed questions. There's my letter of support, but that concludes my presentation for Sewed Up Farms. Thank you very much. Thank you. Do you want to say your name and title, please? Hi, yes. My name is Shemika Jones, also Shemika Moore. I got married, sorry. Sorry, hubby. But yes, I am the owner and operator of Sewed Up Farms. We actually are for-profit. I apologize for the confusion- Sorry about that ... but we collaborate with other non-for-profits that I work with personally and also connect with in the community. So right now, we are operating out of the Legend space on 43rd and Federal, which used to be the Robert Taylor homes. We are a full-scale production doing specialty crops. I do not do chickens and goats, even though you can in the city of Chicago, but that is not my forte. So right now, we operate off of one-fourth of an acre over in that space. Last season, we were in about five farmers markets. We do wholesale, retail, and direct to consumer. And then this season, there was a hiccup with land access over there because that's Chicago Housing Authority land, so we actually lost all of our production space. But because of the relationships that we have with other community organizations, we were able to work with Neighbor Space to be a part of the FarmWorks Chicago site on Kedzie and Fulton, which we've now reactivated, and that is also full food production community garden site. And so we've got about an eighth of an acre over there, and then we got the old farm back over at Legend, so we have a fourth of an acre there. And so the addition of this space would put us at right about of an acre, which could produce a whole lot of food. So just to share the impact this will have on the community, I am a part of the Austin Town Hall Farmers Market. I do live in Austin, and this land is in Austin, so it's five minutes from my home. It makes production a lot easier, and it's also great because I get to work with the neighborhood, I get to work with the children. I'm really big proponent on sharing knowledge. So we are working with the organization which I'm the development director on, called Austin Garden Collective, in conjunction with Austin Coming Together, to make sure that we are not only doing food production, which is a necessity in the neighborhood of Austin as the biggest geographical neighborhood with the lowest amount of grocery stores. And with the introduction of Forty Acres, we'll be working to make sure that we have hyperlocal produce, but we also have a skill set introduced to the neighborhood so they can understand actually what's happening and how to appreciate the space and respect the space and maintain the space. And we're also going to connect that with our existing community gardens, and all the different infrastructures and organizations that are there. We were very fortunate to be able to work with Green Corps for the development of this project, so our site has actually expanded from the originally proposed 12 raised beds. We were able to get 24 raised beds that are four foot by eight feet, and then we have four ADA compliant raised beds that are four feet by four feet. I'm a really big component of ADA. I used to work for the Parks and the Disability Policy office, so in and out ADA. Every space has to have ADA. My grandmother was also a paraplegic. She was paralyzed from the flu shot. So my whole life, I was raised by somebody who was disabled. So it's a really big component in what goes into our site. So we have those already up and running. The fence is there. I'm happy to report that the neighbors are really ecstatic. They're already asking me for the wintertime collard greens and all the good stuff. And we're putting together programming to make the space work, not only for food production, but for the community as well. There was some loitering that was happening before. We had some homeless people living on the lot. The lot has been vacant for about 15 years, if I'm not mistaken. Day two, everyone was gone, and everyone's like, "What's going on here?" The neighbors are so happy, and they're just really excited to see the space reactivated. So thank you guys for listening to all of that. I really appreciate it. And yes, I am the owner, the operator, sole owner. It's operated by myself, my three children who are 5, 10, and 13. This was their idea. I had no idea I was going to be a farmer. Went to school for architecture, so totally different. And my wonderful husband, who's also in healthcare, specializing in behavioral health right now. So we're really working to connect the gaps with holistic wellness, getting kids interested in this early on, and just changing the narrative about food. Fantastic. That's fantastic. Any questions, recommend-- Alderman Espada? Just so that we're not just interested in peaches- Shemika, you said not the chicken and goats weren't your forte. What is your forte? What do you love that you make at Sewed Up Farms? Yeah. So the easiest way for me to explain this, because we grow over 65 different varieties of crops, is to say what I don't grow, which is corn, wheat, and soy. But if you want that, I have a couple of friends who do grow that in the city. We also try to work with other hyperlocal growers because there is a lot of people out there who look like me, who have the skill set. I was privileged. I went through the Windy City Harvest Apprenticeship and the University of Illinois Master Urban Farmer Training Program. So I'm a USDA acknowledged trained farmer, or grower, as you would call it. But there's a lot of safety features that go into this. So we're small, but we're mighty when we work together. So I could pretty much get you anything you want, even if it's purple grits. Oh, cool. Yeah. So yeah, we grow everything. Wow. I would say the community's favorite is these beautiful tomatoes called Indigo Cherry. They're a dark purple, but they taste like grapes. And so at the market that I'm at, we have a lot of people who can't eat stone fruit because they don't have teeth to be able to chew those. And then in the fall, all you have is the apples and the pears. The peaches are gone. Everybody loves the peaches, but they're gone. And so those are a really, really good substitute, and then people understand why tomato is considered a fruit. There we go. Thank you so much. You're welcome. That's fantastic. So can I get a motion to move on this item? So moved by Alderperson Fuentes. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed, say nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The due pass recommendation of these items will be reported out on the next city council, May 20, 2026. Congratulations, and best of luck in your endeavors. We hope to see you and visiting you soon. Thank you. Congratulations. The last item. This is the last item of the agenda. Item 10 is ordinance 2026.0024953, sale of city-owned property at 6515 South Aberdeen Street to Janet Mosley Gaither, 6520 South Aberdeen Street to Justine Stephens, and 749 and 747 West 54th Street to Arica Missionary Baptist Church in the 16th Ward. Meg Gustafson, again, from the Department of Planning, is here to testify on this ordinance, and we'll have also some of the applicants here as well. Thank you, Meg. Thank you very much. Take us away. Great. The first two are both on Aberdeen, and I have the applicants here. It's good to see you guys. The first one is Janet Mosley Gaither. That's me. That's you. 6515 South Aberdeen. This is loosely, or definitely, connected to the Unblocked Englewood initiative and group. Janet lives on the block and has the support of Alderman Coleman. 10% of market value for this lot is $623. Here is the zoning map. You can see there's a lot of city-owned vacant land in this area. Here is the context photo and a little bit about both of these lots that I will let Janet and Justine tell you more about if you have questions. The total budget cost for 6515 is about $12,000, $13,000. They plan to fence it and do native plants and a pathway. And that concludes my presentation for 6515. If you want me to do 6520, we can- Yeah. Great. We can do it all together, and then of course, we'd love to hear from the applicants. These two together- Yes ... because they are on the same block, and they have the same site plan. The second one is 6520 South Aberdeen. It is across the street. Both of these are about 25 by 125. And this one at 10% of market value is $839. Here it is on the zoning map, and this is the site photo for 6520 South Aberdeen. I'd like to also add that the Chicago Bungalow Association and Englewood Arts Collective is a partner along with Unblocked Englewood. The budget for this one is about $13,000. It will include picnic tables, native plants, and a pathway. That concludes my presentation for those two. I guess we could take any questions for those. Thank you. Yeah, we can do those two. First, do you want maybe the applicants just introduce themselves? We'd love to hear from you. My name is Justine Mosley Stephens, and I'm trying to acquire 6520. I am 77 years old. I'm an ex-gang member. I am a terrorist. I was worse than Bin Laden when it came to Englewood, which I was reared in. I helped destroy it. My vision was to put it back together, and that's what I'm doing. That's what I'm about. A lot of people, the young people that was here today, I wish I had the opportunity to talk to them. We destroy, and we destroy ourselves. Nobody wants to admit that. If we pick up, clean up, and put up, our communities would not be in a disarray as they are today. 65th and Aberdeen, I have a young lady, where here, Amber and her organization, along with Chicago Bungalow Association, came to me and offered, and I said to them, "No." They said, "The lady got to be crazy." They came back a second time. I'm making a long story short. I said, "No." They came back a third time and said, "Why?" I said, "Because I'm able to do my own work. I got a crew." I had material, the whole nine yards. I say, "But we have people out here that don't have the monies, that don't have the skills." My family, my siblings and I were raised putting together, painting, doing, and the whole nine yards. Mm. But there were people that wasn't, so they didn't know what to do with those properties that were left by the grandmothers, the mothers, and they were falling. So I said, "Let's get together and let's help them, then you can come and help me." And that's what happened. So the block of 65th and Aberdeen is almost like the Gold Coast. We cut grass up and down from one end to the other. We took those vacant lots. We had rats over there big as my head. They're gone. They're gone because why? We picked up the garbage. We cut the weeds down. We cleaned up those properties, where now on my kitchen table, I have a list where people are trying to get in there to rent. I'm the biggest landlord on that side of town. I own 10 propertiesI don't go according to the market. I want you to sit down, show me your check, show me what you got coming in every month, and then we're going to base your rent on that. Why? So I don't want no excuse. When the 1st come, I want my money. Not the first chance you get to pay me, the first day of the month, and I don't have no problems. So these vacant lots, it's like a jewel to us in the 6500 block of Aberdeen. We don't have to worry about illegal dumping- Mm ... because we fence them off. Mm. And we watch. Every resident that's available is security. Right now, we have a contractor there as I speak, but we got security watching our contractor so won't anyone come in, rip him off for the trucks, the material, and so on and so forth. This is what we have to do. We have to come together as people, human people, and stop shifting the blame. Mm. You understand? Mm. A Section 8 calls me. "Miss Justine, well, we got a tenant." "I don't care what you got. Don't send them to me." "Why, Justine?" "Because you give them move-in papers to move in my unit, tear it up, then you don't want to refund what they tow up to me, and give them move-in papers to go and tear up hers." So I stopped that. You qualified. If you work, if you don't have a job, I still go along with you. I give you 90 days to find a job. I'm going to let you move in, but you got 90 days to find a job, because you're going to pay me. If I work, you work. We give too much, people. We give too much, and we have to stop it in order to make this thing in the city of Chicago work. They said the rent is too high. It's not the landlords. It's the tax, the water bill, and the insurances. So we got to pass the cost to somebody, but if you come out and help me, then I can lower your cost. And this is what we are about in the 6500 block of Aberdeen. I moved out of Englewood due to a tax problem I had 33 years ago. Nobody know I moved because I'm still there seven days a week, including Sunday. I go to church right there, and we watch that area. And I thank God for the ART, Tamika, Ambra, Chicago Bungalow Association. I thank God for them. And the people on that block have got so involved, whereas they used to walk out their door, wouldn't pick up a paper, piece of paper, sales paper. They'd throw them, they'd leave them. Now, it's like going to the Gold Coast, and everybody is involved. So what am I going to do with the lot? What I've done with the other lots that I owned before this all started. Keep them clean, cut, fenced. When you want to have a baby shower, that's where you do it, because you won't do it in the apartment. See, I don't rent banquet halls. I want units for you to live in, and I don't want you on my front porch. Okay? So this is what we are all about. Cleaning up and fixing up. And these lots mean something, not so much to me, but to that block. Mm. Because it's security, it's safe, it's clean, and we don't have to call out the rodents, people, because we know what we're dealing with. You understand? And this is what we're about. I'm done. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any other... Do you want to- My name is Janet Gaither. Janet Mosley Gaither. Her sister. Okay. But truthfully, the block, I moved out of Englewood, and I think I was gone for over 20 years. Mm. But I always wanted to go back. That neighborhood is like a village, truthfully. When I did come back, they got blessed, because the blessings come in when I come back. The work that's being done there, the organizations that came in to do the work actually made the block tighter. Instead of, "Hey, hey," there's actually people coming outside and mingling together. There are, in some of the vacant lots, there's areas where you can just sit and talk. We're two blocks from Ogden Park, which I work for the park district, and the park now, horrible, but on the block, we can come out. What I want to do with my lot is make a dog run so the dogs in the neighborhood can have somewhere to go. Run up and down freely, be fenced off, and the owners have to stay with their dog, clean up behind their dog, but a place for the dogs to go and just be a dog. That's all. Just be a dog instead of running the streets. We do not have stray dogs. If we see a stray dog, we call.We try to keep-- Now, the cats are free, but the dogs, we do not let run through there. We don't want dog poop all over the place. We want the neighborhood to be clean. And so far it is. And Justine's right. There are no rodents. We cleaned them all up, thanks to the Streets and Sanitation. All we had to do was call our alderman. Our alderman sent them out, and they just kept coming, kept coming, until finally we have none. And then individuals fought in their own houses. So when they came in out the alley, if they made it in, we fought them inside the houses, so there is none. So it's pretty good. And it is a beautiful area. I can't speak for other blocks because I go home and stay home. But it's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's like, I don't know Paradise. She won't tell you that the house she's in, I sold to her. Oh, yeah, she sold it to me. She fussed. She had some tenants. "I'm putting them so-and-so out. I'm putting them out." I said, "You going to put them out?" "Yeah, I'm going to put them out." I said, "Let me buy it." She said, "You want to buy it?" I wanted to come back into the neighborhood. So she said, "Yeah, you can buy it." So my daughter is a real estate lawyer. She didn't know. After she said, "I'll buy it," I called my daughter. She going to sell that house. I'd never seen the inside of the house. Never seen it. She sold it to me. My daughter took care of the business, and I got the house. And then the blessing. That was- I want to- ... blessing one ... I want to say to you- Then the other blessings came. I want to say to you, city councils, you all are doing a tremendous job. I take my hat off to you. You're doing a hell of a job. And I've worked with several of the older persons myself. Oh, yeah. Closely worked with them. I headed up the Englewood Back to School Parade for 25 years nonstop. And the 25 years before the parade, I took the children in the Englewood community away for the weekend to Cincinnati, Ohio, for the entire weekend. Never had a problem. And to know and understand politics, you guys got a job. And to take the abuse that you do, I'd be in jail. I'm done. Thank you. Thank you so much. If there's any questions by committee member... Alderwoman Hadden. Thank you so much. Thank you for bringing this project before us. Thank you for sharing your story. And my one question is, how do we get an invitation to come visit your block? We're having a block club- We're having a block- ... June 28th June 28th. At 65th The block party. June 28th. Okay. Please come. We're asking all of you all, please come. Please come. Okay, what time? All day. The 27th. It's the last Saturday of June. Okay. Last Saturday of June. Please come. Ever since this project started- And bring your friends. All right. Thank you. Ever since this project started, we have had a block party. And it's not like a block club, it's a block party- It is ... where we invite such as to come out And we have artists coming down our block And it's amazing. Yeah. Oh my God, if you could see the mural that was done by professional artists. And this young lady had to do this mural at night, and she said, "I don't know how I'm going to do it. I'm just going to come out and do it." And the police department, Seventh District, came out and asked me, "Miss, are you Justine?" I said, "Yes." "What's going on?" Because 2:00 in the morning, you would've thought it was 2:00 in the day because of the neighbors coming out, sitting, eating chicken and fish, and we had some wine too. To protect this young lady while she painted this mural. The workers feel good. It's just awesome. We have professional cooks, chefs, that comes out and cater the food for us. We have vendors come out, and the children. Bass School is at 65th and May. When the children get out of school, it's a pleasure. They take that route because they want to see the block, and you don't have to tell them. They just don't do it anymore. No paper, no nothing. It's amazing. So art brings out more than we realize. So personally, you all come out on the 7th of June. You can just ride- And- I just put it in my calendar. So I'm just saying, so I show up. Even the police department said, "What's going on?" They don't get any calls. Not for that block. It's a blessing, and it's something that should be spreaded out- Hmm. Okay ... over the City of Chicago. Anytime your gang members, your drug dealers- Hmm ... come and tell you, "We done," you know it's something. The music, if they playing music in the houses, 8:00, everything cuts offIt's really quiet. Oh, please come. Please come. People are sitting out on the porch, just chilling. It's beautiful. It don't even seem like the heart of Englewood. I call that area the heart of Englewood. It's beautiful. And it's spreading. It's spreading. Yes, because we notice other blocks- Yeah ... are cleaning up. Yeah. The adjacent blocks, they're cleaning up. They're fixing up. They don't know we gave them- People, let's go. Oh. Sorry. Yes. I'm sorry, y'all. One more. Thank you. So we got one more. Yeah. But thank you so much. We'll see you on the 27th. I think that you... I think we're going to have one more, and we vote all of them together. One more. On the seventh, that's right. 27th. Here we go. 27th. Okay, let's go. Yep. Thank you all. Thank you so much, and congratulations. What a blessing and- It's 7:00 ... and keep up the good work. Lead by example. So it's one more, right, Meg? Great. This is the last one. It's the last one. It's grouped in the same ordinance. They were all part of the same Chi Block Builder round, so law grouped them. This one's also in the 16th Ward. This is a land sale to Eureka Missionary Baptist Church, and I have a representative here. He also gave testimony many hours ago. And here is the zoning map. The church is just to the west at 5401 South Halsted. Here is the site. It's separated by the alley. And they have a large master plan, but for the purposes of this land sale, we're going to just talk about the first phase, which is to fence the two city lots, to fence them and do a path with planters and some gates. So that first phase is about $23,000. They have already spent money on their environmentals, and we are set to close soon after this approval, if we get your approval. The larger second phase is a basketball court and other types of uses. But for the purposes of this one, we're just going to fence it. And we can answer any questions for you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Alderman Moore. I just want to thank you for your patience. I did appreciate your testimony earlier, so thank you for giving us background about the church, about your mission, about what you're doing. And so this looks like a fantastic use, so thank you for coming before us. Thank you so much. Do you want to add anything else? I know that you already spoken public comment, but you happy to add anything else? I just want to say we really appreciate you all going through this. Thank God for Meg for helping us out. And I just want to say, I've been pastoring the church for the last 42 years, so I'm used to being the last one to leave. So moved by Alderperson Fuentes. All those in favor say aye. Those opposed say nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The do pass recommendation on these three items will be reported out on May 20, 2026. Congratulations, and I commend you for your leadership in your community. We need to see more of that throughout the city indeed. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you so much. And being no further business before the committee, can I get a motion to adjourn? So moved by Alderperson Fuentes. All those in favor say aye. Opposed nay. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. The meeting on Committee on House and Real Estate is officially adjourned. Thank you so much.