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November 10th. Yep. Sorry. Perfect.
Good morning everyone.
The meeting, um,
of the Committee on Economic Capital Technology Development
from Mund November 10th is now reconvening on this day,
Wednesday, November 12th at 10:00 AM Uh, for today,
for today's, uh, reconvene meeting, uh,
we did not receive any public comments.
Um, at this time, we will begin the public comment period.
I don't see any folks that have
signed up for public comment.
Um, So at this time,
that concludes the public comment portion of the hearing.
Um, ladies
and gentlemen, we are here for a subject matter hearing
under proposed 2025
to 2029 Capital Improvement Plan Program.
Um, and this is a process that is governed
by the City Council rules,
where the Economic Capital Technology Development Committee
is responsible for the, uh, CIP program.
Uh, and so as a result of that, we will hear from, um,
director Guzman, uh, as well as members
of the infrastructure, um, committees, um, strike that,
departments that make up the CIP program.
Um, so we'll start off with, um, Annette Guzman.
Um, we are also joined by CO Commissioner Craig Turner,
department of Water Commissioner Randy Connor.
We also CFO assistant, Brendan White, um, fleet
and Management, fleet
and Management Commissioner Julie Hernandez, uh, Tomlin.
And they have, uh, staff with them as well.
And they'll, the staff will be ready
to answer any questions, uh, if the commissioners need.
So need to do that.
And on the screen is the, uh, presentation.
You all should have, uh, had the
presentation emailed to you.
My staff, uh, did print out the, um,
presentation for you for a hard copy, which I gotta talk
to them 'cause this is the tech committee,
so we should not be using paper.
Um, but we'll let it pass.
Um, so with that, Ms. Guzman,
whenever you're ready, you can start, uh, the presentation.
Uh, good morning, members of the committee, thank you
for having me and my colleagues this, uh,
before you this morning to present the 2025, uh,
2029 Capital Improvement, uh, plan program.
I just wanted to start by saying
that the budget office works collaboratively
with our infrastructure departments
to develop a pretty comprehensive
and holistic capital improvement plan to support
critical infrastructure projects
throughout the city of Chicago.
Um, this presentation and deck that's
before you is meant to give you a sense of the myriad
of considerations and factors that play into the development
of our five-year plan, which we produce on an annual basis.
We update it every year, um, to allow not only members
of city council to understand the projects
that will happen over the next five years,
but to allow the, um, uh, residents, businesses,
and those who love to look at city data
and understanding of those projects.
In addition to the book that we put out every year,
we also have a capital Improvement Plan dashboard on the
Budget offices' website, where you can actually, um,
zoom down to the actual project
and not only, uh, find out how it's being funded,
that particular project, but what,
but what ward that project is, um, located in.
The Capital Plan is informed not only by the, uh,
data that our departments, uh, amass over the course
of several years and, uh, to the minute,
but also informed by conversations with members
of city council, uh, conversations that are happening
with members of the mayor's office, members
of their own staff who are, uh, skilled
and trained in the infrastructure work that occurs, as well
as information that comes to us through members
of City Council, but also in conversations
that our departments have with
residents of the City of Chicago.
As noted by the chairman, I'm joined here today, uh,
with three of our infrastructure, um, uh, commissioners,
acting Commissioner Craig Turner over the Department
of Transportation Commissioner Julie Hernandez Tomlin, um,
over the Department of Fleet and Facility Management,
and Commissioner Randy Connor over the
Department of Water Management.
Um, I'll do a brief presentation
and do it as quickly as possible to open it up
to the members of the committee for questions
on the five year, uh, capital Improvement Plan.
First, I always like
to center my presentations on the context
of why we do what we do.
Um, we'll talk, um, at high level about the five-year plan.
We'll talk about the, uh, bond that is
before City Council that helps support the, the work
of the Capital Improvement Plan.
And then we'll open it up for questions.
So, just like, um, how we develop priorities
for the overarching budget, uh,
the Capital Improvement Plan serves a number
of critical goals, uh, for the city.
In addition to maintaining a state of good repair
of our public infrastructure and ensuring that it's safe
and operable, we also advance a number of critical, uh,
priorities, including equitable investment
and improvement of quality
of life throughout every single one of our neighborhoods.
All 77. We also, um, uh, develop
and implement our CIP program to ensure that we're complying
with all federal, state, and local laws, regulations.
And in many instances, judicial orders.
Our capital improvement plan, uh, accelerates critical
economic opportunity and business development projects.
And increasingly, our CIP is developed to ensure
that we are building climate resilient
and sustainable infrastructure as we continue to see
what used to be, uh,
every 100 year type storms becoming more frequent.
The plan is developed to maximize funding efficiency
and leverage external resources such
as federal grant dollars.
And lastly, it's, uh, developed to promote transparency,
engagement, and accountability
of the projects that are selected.
Thank you. Uh, Annette, quick question for you. Mm-hmm.
Um, how much of the requests that's, that's
before us is tied to federal, state,
and local law regulation and judicial orders?
So, um, it's a good question that I is on the next slide.
So, the 2025 through 2029 Capital Improvement Plan, um,
includes, um, funding from the federal government that is
around, um, 18% of the capital plan.
Um, and so again, this is a five year plan.
A lot of it, um, is, uh, uh, projects
that have been in existence from, um, our prior plans
that we have developed, um,
and extends out a lot of those plans as well
as includes new projects that have yet to start.
But of our $18.1 billion, uh, CIP plan, uh,
18% is funded through federal funds.
Um, and another 9% is funded
through state, state grants.
And so a large chunk of our, um,
capital improvement plan actually comes from external
sources, um, uh, to support that work.
So, as you can see on the slide seven, um, of all
of our geo bonds that we, um, have issued
and will issue under existing authority, um, to support our,
our infrastructure work, that only constitutes 21% of
what goes to support our, um, CIP plan.
Um, the authority that will come before you, or that is
before you for the 2026 through 2027 bond is just one
of the many funding sources that we will use
to support our existing and future CIP projects.
So speaking of that particular authority, um, it,
um, will be up to $1.3 billion
and will support the following, um, program categories.
Um, a continuation of the Aldermanic menu Bridges
and Via ducts, uh, our Complete Streets program, uh,
critical deferred maintenance on our facilities, uh,
fleet IT and equipment, um,
lead service line replacement work
to compliment the public side lead,
lead service line replacements that the water department
conducts, uh, sidewalks
and pedestrian right of way, street lighting,
street resurfacing, traffic signals,
and waterways and pathways.
And I'll go through those each, um, on,
on their own really quickly.
Um, and then open it up for questions.
So again, this is just the portion of our CIP plan
that is supported by the 2026 through 2027, um,
capital, uh, bond.
Um, just giving you a sense of
how much we're currently investing in those projects
and how much more will be available for us to support
through the 2026 through 2027 bond.
So on under the Alderman menu, uh,
we currently are investing $195 million to support, um,
and drive infrastructure improvements
and capital repairs that are driven through community needs.
Um, and the 26
through 27 bond will add another
$216 million to that program.
That equates to $1.5 million per award, uh,
which is $75 million annually, uh, for menu projects,
um, complimented by another 33 million annually
to support the supplemental work for those projects
that cdot, um, uh, uh, does on behalf of,
of, of Alders.
And that includes for the projects that you implement,
the engineering support,
the program management utility adjustments,
and a DA supplemental work for any of the projects
that are selected by each, um, city council member
Bridge and Viaduct program.
Um, so, uh, the city
for a long time deferred maintenance on its bridges
and its via ducts.
And over the last several years, the Department
of Transportation has been working to ensure that, um,
the maintenance and improvement of the city's bridges
and viaducts are conducted to improve safety
of our critical passageways throughout the city.
Uh, we are currently investing
three hundred and twenty twenty three hundred twenty
$2 million in that program.
The 26 through 27 Bond authority will provide another
$145 million that, um,
will include 6 85 millions for bridge replacements.
Um, that is in order to leverage, uh,
over $400 million in state
and federal funds that also go towards, um,
the rehabilitation
and advanced design work on, um, our bridges as well
as $60 million for critical repairs
for 16 bridges throughout the city of Chicago.
Our Complete Streets program, which provides, um, uh,
uh, work within our communities
for equitable inviting spaces, uh, through, uh, uh,
thoughtful design as well as in many instances,
community dialogue to help, uh, drive the design work.
Um, we are currently investing
$394 million into that program.
The 26th through 27 Bond adds another $50 million onto that
for not only the, the Complete Streets Program,
but for streetscapes
and arterial pavement, marking and res striping,
Um, um, director.
Mm-hmm. The current investments,
the 3 94, where's that coming from?
That's from the ex.
All of that is from existing bond authority
that the city has already passed.
Um, and if, if you have, how much of
that 3 94 have you spent already?
We can get you that information.
I don't have it at the top of my, um, uh, my top of my hand,
but the authority, um, has been allocated
for projects already.
Um, and as the, uh, projects are completed,
that's when the spin happens.
Typically for our Go Bonds, we, um,
put the bonds in place in order
to allow our infrastructure departments
to do the contracting and pre-planning
and design work, which many
of these projects can take a year to two years in
that phase, um, before the actual construction work happens.
And so this additional bond authority allows
for future projects that'll occur, um, a year
to two years from now for us to begin the contracting
and the design work of
That. Cool. If you could, uh,
through the chair,
submit the information as it relates
to the current investments, what's been spent down,
et cetera, and all the Thank you. You're
Welcome. Turning
to our facilities, um, um, through the work of, uh,
led by the Department of Fleet
and Facility Management,
our facilities category helps maintain, uh,
critical city assets in a state of good repair, um,
especially those that are open to the public.
Um, and, uh,
currently we are investing $174 million into
our facility program.
The 26 through 27 bond adds another $92 million, uh, 72
for facility renovations, including for our fire facilities,
as well as replacement of building systems citywide.
And another $20 million, uh,
for hazardous building demolitions by the Department
of Buildings, which will allow for us to demolish, uh, um,
780 vacant buildings throughout the city that are usually
and almost a hundred percent, uh, requirements, uh,
through judicial orders, uh,
for the fleet IT and equipment category.
Um, we currently invest, um, $271 million, um,
in our bonds in, uh, this category, the 26
through 27 bond authority ads, another $231 million,
uh, which is largely for the replacement of end of life, uh,
um, fleet.
Uh, this, the largest portion of that is to replace, uh,
CFD engines, ambulances,
and ladder trucks, uh, which is gonna be a very large, um,
replacement of the CFDs fleet over the
next four to five years.
This also includes the replacement of end of life, uh, uh,
fleet for Streets and Sanitation, as well as CPD.
Um, in addition to that, there's $37 million
to support public safety IT development,
including the CAD system updates
and replacement of their records management system,
which is a project that, uh, CPD through the Office
of Public Safety Administration has been, um,
implementing an order to reduce, uh, the amount of time
that officers spend, uh, with paperwork.
Lastly, this, uh, provides for another $14 million
for public safety cameras, um, as it relates
to private side lead service line replacements, that is led
by the Department of Water Management.
Uh, we currently invest $107 million
for private side lead service line replacements.
The 26 through 27 bond provides for another $173 million.
Um, and that is to ensure that we're able to keep pace
with the increased, uh, number of
lead service line replacements being done on the public side
by the Department of Water.
Um, as you may know, the public side LSRs are funded
through our water bonds
and WIA loans, which are ineligible
for private side replacements.
Yet we are required under state law
that when we replace the public side,
we also must replace the private side.
And so there is an increase in,
in this category within our bond in order to keep pace
with those, um, with that infrastructure work.
Um, almost done sidewalks and pedestrian right of way.
Um, I know this is something near
and dear to, uh, to you, chairman.
Uh, we are currently investing $95 million to support, um,
the implementation
and construct reconstruction of sidewalks
for reliable pedestrian routes, as well as targeting repairs
for safety improvements.
So this not only continues to add dollars
for the shared cost sidewalk program,
which is gonna allow us to, uh,
replace about approximately 600 property, uh,
sidewalk Citywide, but also allows, uh, funding
for the miscellaneous con concrete construction, as well
as hazardous sidewalk repairs, which will allow
for another 2,400 locations,
citywide Street Lighting.
Um, we know that safe neighborhoods, um,
or we increase safety in our neighborhoods by ensuring
that our, uh, street lighting is operable.
And so, um, current investments in this,
in this category are $153 million.
The 26 through 27 bond adds another $104 million,
including funding for around 1200 poles, um,
for hazardous pole replacements, 10 blocks
of arterial street relighting,
and about $67 million for residential street lighting
street resurfacing.
Uh, we currently, um,
invest about $256 million in improving our roadways
and the, the useful life of our roadways
through resurfacing.
The 26 through 27 bond will support another $163 million in
this category, which will allow for 80 40 miles
of arterial Street resurfacing, um, 160 blocks
of collector, collector street resurfacing, 10 blocks
for WPA street replacements
and $40 million, uh, additional ads
to our Green Alley program, uh, traffic signals.
This, this area is largely dictated by court orders, um,
that are mandating the city to replace, uh, uh,
traffic signals with, um, um, automated,
I, I'm gonna forget what this is a PS stands for,
but essentially what pedestrian
automated pedestrian signals.
Um, and we are on a,
a phased approach based on court mandate
to replace a certain amount by, um, um,
by each year dictated by a court order.
So this will give us the ability to continue that program
and the compliance with court order.
And then lastly, um, protecting our shores, um,
is important, especially as an eco refuge.
Uh, the city of Chicago will continue to become
and is an eco refuge for our, our country.
And so, um, ensuring that our, um, our
shores are, um, protected from erosion
and stormwater impacts is important.
And this is a project that CDOT does in concert
with not only the Park District,
but also the US Army Corps of Engineers.
Um, in addition to our current investments of $130 million
for the Morgan Sho Revetment project, uh, this project,
um, will get another $14 million in the 20 26, 27 bond
to, uh, for the, the, the phase that it's currently in.
Um, but also leverages an, um, a large amount
of federal dollars as well
as Park District dollars for the project.
And with that, I will turn it back
to chairman for questions.
Thank you. Uh, thank you, director.
Um, so just the level set.
So really the geo bond that's being
requested here is constitutes
for 21% of all the investments.
Uh, it's within the entirety of our geo bond,
so we can get you the exact percentage
that this particular geo bond would constitute
amongst the entire 18.1.
But when you look at the entirety
of the current authorization as well
as the new authorization, it would be 21%. Gotcha.
Okay. Um, the, I see that
in every slide.
Um, the current investment
and then the bond authority was there,
but as it relates to Alderman menu, why, why did
that number stay flat given the cost
of everything that's going up?
So the Alderman menu currently, um,
it's $108 million per year for, um, uh,
aldermanic uh, directed projects.
Um, there is, uh,
we have seen some cost increases over the coming year,
but, um, you know, given the entirety
of our capital improvement plan, um, you know,
the 108 has been the dollar amount set, uh, uh, by the city.
Um, and so that's the dollar
that we have for the next two years.
So, um, when you say it's been set
by the city, is that by ordinance
Or No, it's, it's, it's based on the entirety of the plan
and the amount of dollars that we have
to support all projects.
Um, and, you know, again, um,
the Elderman menu compliments all of the other, uh,
capital improvement projects
that are happening in your wards.
Um, so it's, it's, it's not as if, um, you know,
street resurfacing isn't happening, other types
of complete streets aren't happening, it's just
that the Elderman menu is a, a portion of that work.
So, um, I think that, um, uh,
and I'm speaking for myself here,
but I'm sure my colleagues will jump in in here either way.
But as it relates to the menu, I mean,
I'd like to see that increased.
Um, the reality is that what we're seeing is
the requests are, um, we're getting a lot of requests
from, from cons from constituents.
Matter of fact, my ward had 6 million in requests,
and I'm not, I'm not advocating for for 6 million.
But the fact that, um, every item
category here has an adjustment as it relates to
what the bond authority's getting
and our requests are, are flat, uh, for two years, um,
is something that I definitely would like to see moved.
And, and since it's not based on statute, that's just,
that's just a, an appropriation, uh, adjustment
that could be made by this body,
especially since we're the ones that are having
to take votes on the bond.
So I wanted to put that on the record
and I wanna talk to my other colleagues as well
to see if there's an appetite, uh, for increasing that, um,
all dramatic menu number, another half a million dollars.
And I'm sure that per ward,
and I'm sure my colleagues would probably support that.
Um, the
33 million that is on top of the al automatic menu, that's
to help supplement engineering and stuff like that?
Correct. And program management utility adjustments.
When you talk about utility adjustments, what is that?
Is that the, the underground folks?
Or is that the, um, water sewer adjustments?
Um, it is for the water
and sewer adjustments for resurfacing projects.
So is there a way where, since that the water
and sewer is an enterprise fund, is there a way that
that could be paid from the Enterprise fund versus
this line item?
Um, I think that I, I, I,
we can definitely have a discussion with CDOT
and, uh, commissioner Connor.
Um, but I believe that when they do their other projects,
um, as it relates to street resurfacing, the utility work
outside of the Aldermanic menu, I mean yep.
The utility work is covered through the bond.
Okay. Alright. And as you know, our water fund,
our water bonds have, uh, strict covenants in them,
so we'd have to a hundred percent understand
what is allowed there. Yeah.
That's why I was trying to capture as much
as possible under that, under that fund.
And since those are adjustments that are tied to
that infrastructure improvement thought,
maybe an, an opportunity there.
Um, I'm gonna go ahead and stop right now.
I'm allow my colleagues to ask any questions.
Um, and then we'll continue dialogue,
but I do appreciate everyone coming out.
And for those members that didn't make it here earlier, um,
under the rules that govern this, uh, city council,
the Economic Capital and Technology Development Committee is
responsible for the CIP program.
And moving forward, the CIP program will originate here
and then go to finance for funding based on whatever the,
um, ECTD committee and,
and, uh, the body determines Vice
Chair Mosley, you had a question?
I'm sorry. Alderman La Alderman Lata followed by, um,
alderman Lopez, followed by Alderman Mosley.
Thank you Chair. Um, can I ask,
what is the proposed timing for the introduction of the CIP
and bond ordinance?
Uh, the bond ordinance will be introduced, I believe,
um, tomorrow
Is the proposal that we would vote on this at the same
time that we would vote on the budget.
Yes. Okay. Um, I have a question on page 12.
How we're I understand Complete Streets,
how are we defining street scapes as part
of the Complete Streets programming?
We're defining, I mean we're, we're defining, um, the,
the streets scape as far as what the, uh,
with the complete street elements.
'cause we adding in elements for into the streets scape.
I mean, when we do a streets scape, you know, it goes back
to the community, you know, get their engagement
to make sure that the streets scapes envision
what the community wants.
And then we also incorporate some
complete street elements in there, like bike lanes
and bump outs
and everything to make it, uh, safer for the pedestrians
and also everyone that use the, the facility.
What does this funding level allow you
to accomplish in terms
of street scapes over the next couple years?
Uh, currently we, I mean, it, it will, um, crap,
lemme get to my notes.
Um, now we're, we, we have a bunch of projects
that are going to construction, so, um,
and also we are gonna use some of the money
to push some projects through design.
Um, I'm looking at, I can get you a number as far
as what's in construction and what we haven't designed.
That's been the problem. I'd appreciate understanding
that knowing like the, the cost
of those items keeps going up.
Particularly, I mean,
if you really wanna do Complete Streets road design, um,
particularly for reconstruction projects,
that it gets expensive.
Even implementing protected bike lanes on existing streets,
the, the cost is precipitously higher than it even
was six years ago.
Um, I wanted to ask on the page about
On Fleet, this is page 14, 180 million for end
of life fleet replacement.
May I ask, how is this being informed by the EY rapport
and trying to rightsize our fleet for the current needs
of well, current and future needs of the city?
You want me to start or you want say, um, so
as you can see, the 180 million is, um,
and as I, uh, is for largely CFD, um, uh,
vehicles, um, as EY noted in the hearing on Monday, um,
the report that, that they released
and that you received largely focused on the fleet
that is not heavy duty equipment.
Um, they did look at every,
and they inventoried every piece
of equipment that the city has.
Um, but, um, the main focus of what they did for
that report was around non heavy duty equipment.
Um, the CFD equipment that currently is in existence,
and I, I know because I I hear this a lot at,
at city council meetings, um, is beyond useful life.
Um, and so over the next four
to five years we'll be replacing pretty strategically
and intentionally, uh, CFDs, um, uh, equipment,
both ambulatory as well as their engines.
There was, I remember a line in the Ernst
and Young report about moving to more, I think
what they called basic lifesaving vehicles,
rather than sending full engines out.
Um, someone would remember the details
better than I, but I do.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. How so, like,
how are these investments reflected in
that, that motivation?
So we had a very long conversation
with Commissioner Nance Holt.
Um, and what you're referring
to in the report is essentially the difference between a LS,
uh, AMB ambulances and BLS.
Yeah. Uh, ambulances is sort of,
one is more advanced and one is just basic.
We had very long conversations.
Um, not only OBM
and ey, um, on numerous occasions with the commissioner.
Um, this is a policy decision.
Um, she, uh, is very hesitant to
reduce the level what, what she feels is the level
of service that the city would be providing by moving
to more BLS equipment.
Um, because essentially you would be changing the types
of, uh, staffing on,
on those ambulances from paramedics down to,
I think EMTs. That's
Another recommendation in the EY
Report. It is. And
so we will continue
to have those conversations with her.
Um, at the, at present.
Um, there was a lot of, um,
I I will say there's, there's much needed conversations
that will continue around that, just given the way
that she currently views it is a reduction in services
that we're able to provide to people who call 9 1 1, um,
based on the shifting of the type of ambulatory care.
Okay. Um, may I ask two more questions here, chair?
Of course. Okay. Um, yes, thank you.
On page 16, sidewalks
and pedestrian right of way, is this where a DA
pad replacement would fall as well?
The tactile domes, so to speak, to use the,
the proper language?
Yes. That's where it would fall at, yes.
Okay. Does this per permit for that level of maintenance,
I guess I wanted to ask about maintenance more broadly.
'cause there's what we install
and then how we're able to effectively maintain
that infrastructure, particularly complete
streets infrastructure.
There's been a bit of a, a lag on that.
Do you feel like this effectively supports the
maintenance of that infrastructure?
Yes, it does because I mean, we,
we have about the $12 million for the, um,
the concrete construction
and also has this sidewalk repair, which should cover that.
Um, the maintenance of the a DA ramps and everything or,
or replacements and everything.
Okay. Um,
and I see, I, I wanna go to the traffic signal item.
There's two different numbers here.
So there's 50 million for court mandated a PS installations,
2.3 million for signal replacement.
Could you help me understand the, the difference
between these, those two line items?
Okay, well, we we're in a court mandate
to update us in the first year from May, may to May
of 2025 to 20 26 70 locations.
And that's where the 50 million would go towards
because it's more retro, uh, fitting intersections
to get into compliance.
The 2.3 million is for a full re redesign or Oh, okay.
Reconstruction of a, uh, intersection to incorporate it.
My last question is, do we,
and this is more of a, a local issue,
but do we know right now the, the timing, I know
that the division street bridge is also slated
for reconstruction.
Do we have a sense of the, the timing of that?
I'm, I'm assuming and hoping after the Courtland
and Chicago projects are completed,
but can you offer some line of sight on that?
Uh, we're actually re reevaluating our process
or how to, when that bridge is going to be, um, replaced
for the fact that, uh, it is one of our major detour routes
for the current situation.
So we're re we are looking at the whole area to
evaluate the traffic and see how that's going to impact it.
And also reevaluating the, um, looking at the status
of the bridge that's needs to be replaced.
So we're taking all that into consideration.
Duly noted. Thank you, sir. Thank
you. Thank you gentleman.
Espana, alderman Lopez, followed by Vice Chair Mosley.
Good morning chairman and members of the committee,
commissioners director.
Just can't get enough of me this, this week.
It's good to see you all.
Um, wanna start with a couple questions if I may.
First and foremost to what my chairman said about the menu
being up by half a million dollars.
Respectfully, I disagree.
Chairman, I think we should be upping our menu
by at least $2 million to be perfectly honest with you,
as well as focusing on an equity driven
menu option for wards that have
a large amount of area to get through
with not enough resources to get through them.
Um, I know my colleague, the vice chair will address this
as well, but it's hard for wards like mine
and others, particularly in the southwest side, in a city
that loves talking about equity, to see
that we are treated equally to towards that have roads
that are well maintained, well invested,
where you have a lot of community extras where they get
to talk about dog parks while I'm still trying to figure out
how to get sidewalks on streets that have been ignored
for 20 years before my arrival.
So I would love for this
administration to take this to heart.
I know I've talked about this a few times already.
Um, but there has to be a baseline for everybody.
And then something that we could do to address those wards
that have either been severely disinvested
by previous aldermanic leadership
by previous administrations,
or who just have an inordinate amount
of roads like Mike Ollie in relation to
what the average ward has.
Um, because 1.5 million when prices keep going up
is not a lot, especially when you look at alleys are now
almost $50,000 depending on what we're doing.
Street resurfacings are up 20%.
Um, and then there's the other issue that I have to contend
that we all have to contend with,
and it's growing, which is, if we look at page 10
of your slide deck, despite a
75 annual million dollar annual allocation
for aldermanic menu projects, we spend $33 million
on surveys and engineering work.
Right? $33 million.
So just shy of 40% roughly of
what we are willing to spend
for the actual work we spend on surveys.
Surveys and more surveys.
Now on page seven, we'll look at,
um, the total CIP plan for the last four years,
which evolves every year.
But what is not listed in any of this is the cost of
the specified cost of those surveys.
Correct. It's just kind of morphed into what,
what all of these price tags are.
Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on
what the project is itself,
But we've seen where every time we try
to do something, the answer is we need a survey.
You need a survey In 10 years.
The reliance on surveys for even the most basic of things
tells me that we have a, a new patronage system bubbling
underneath everything that we do here.
And it's predates this administration.
So I'm not pointing the finger at it,
but I've seen where you now have this inordinate amount
of money being siphoned off to
third party engineering vendors to do work
at the most inopportune times at the most costly of manners.
And it is growing exponentially as we continue.
So if we could get through the chair, chairman,
what the total cost of engineering spend has been, um,
for CDOT for water in particular, um,
for the last 10 years as a total
for these categories that have been listed.
I would appreciate it because I think it's gonna show
and prove exactly my point that more
and more of our dollars are going towards this
back room as opposed to going to the streets.
Now, the last time that we had conversations together,
we were here talking about the lead
service line replacement.
And what we learned then was a couple of things.
One, that we have a lot of money that's going
to be coming due from the federal
government, I believe next year.
I believe we were given,
and forgive me, I I know my numbers are gonna be wrong,
like $325 million in federal loans, if I'm not mistaken.
Does that sound about right?
Commissioner for work that was supposed to end by 2026
About, right? Yes.
And again, I'm going off memory, so forgive me.
Um, of which I believe
that we were told we only had $75 million in projects
ready to go or spent.
So we have roughly $250 million
in question that we're gonna use it
or lose it come next year.
Is that still correct?
Um, that's absolutely correct.
Well, we have, we are in a place, sorry,
I said that is absolutely correct.
So we actually have projects that we are, that are ready
to go, um, and they will be rolling out.
So that money will be spent by the time, um,
by the end of 2026.
So by end of 2026, we'll have completed
$250 million in projects from the water department Yes.
That we can access the federal funds
to cover the price for Yes.
Now we also took $75 million bond for this as well.
Well, those funds will be for projects TBD, we were told
by representatives of the department last time we were here
before this body have, we identified
where those projects are going to be.
So every year we do a, we take a overall look at
what our CIP is going to be,
and then we go through this whole metrics of, um, uh, age
of water, main leaks, things of that nature
to identify those projects.
And we are just about there
to know where those projects are.
I'm sorry, forgive me Commissioner.
The 75 million was for the private side of the, uh,
lead line replacement.
So when your, when the budget team,
I believe was here discussing this with your team, it was
an unknown set of projects for $75 million.
Basically it was a firm
that we borrowed the money first without knowing
where we were going to spend it.
Have we identified where those projects are going to be
for the 75 million that we borrowed in, in addition
to the other projects that we're doing?
There are projects.
'cause a lot of that private site funding will be used
for our capital program, our sewer
and our water main as well as our leaks
and brakes as well as they spread out across a, a, um,
a bunch of different programs.
So, and again, forgive me
because that's kind of counter to
what we heard when we were here last
because it was insinuated that this was meant
for those projects
because we can't use any other money for
the lead line service replacement private side
and that this was supposed to be 75 million to pay for those
li for those connections from city line to the house.
So I understand what you're saying about most of our geo
and other things that we spend money on
for the infrastructure to do everything else
that you mentioned.
But I, I sometimes feel
as though we get contradictory statements
from departments every time we appear to discuss
what we're spending money on,
because I don't think we have a cohesive written plan, which
I think would be, would behoove us all.
And I know my chairman here has mentioned numerous times
that every time we give money away to departments,
it would be great to have a capital spending
plan identified.
Um, because I don't think we on this side ever get that.
And it becomes very frustrating
because then we hear three months ago
that it was $75 million for the private side
led service line and now we're hearing it's for that
and plus other things.
So I I I don't know,
and I'm not taking issue with you, I'm just saying
what I heard last time we were here talking about, this
is not exactly what I'm remember hearing today.
So, but Alderman, I wanna be very clear
that 75 million is strictly for private side again.
Okay. Or not. It's strictly
for private side. Okay. And we take that and,
But have we identified 70, so at a cost
of $20,000 roughly to do this.
Um, that's about what, 3,500 or 35,000?
Forgive my bad math at the top of the moment,
whatever it is, have we identified how many people
that is meant to serve?
And going back to my issue about
engineering and all of those firms that take money from us
for surveys and all of that other stuff is a third, is 40%
of that being sucked away for them
before we even do house one in the neighborhoods?
So I would have to get that cost to you for
what we spend on the engineering surveys for that.
Um, but again, each house is different.
You could have a house that's going to cost $8,000
for the private side, then you have a house
that's gonna cost $30,000 for the private side.
We don't know exactly what that cost is until we get there.
So as we go through this,
that money's being drawn down per location.
And again, it goes back to
that money being applied across all of our programs,
not just one specific program.
So again, on our Leaks
and Brakes program, again, we can't use the, uh, the, the,
the bond can't use the money that we use for the leaks
and brakes 'cause it's water revenue.
So we have to use the bond money to do the private side.
And that's something that we have to do.
Same thing it is with our capital program on the sewer
and water side, thus all WIA funding and loans.
So we have to, we cannot use that money on the private side.
So again, as we're doing projects, those costs are going
to vary per location per address. Mm-hmm.
And, and if I could just give you a, a couple of,
um, statistics.
So of the $75 million that you've, you've asked about, uh,
about 15 million has been spent so far on uh,
Just for the bond. For
The bond, yeah. Yep. On
leaks and break, I'm sorry, on lead service lines.
And about 80% of that will be spent by the end
of this year actually on lead service
line, uh, replacements.
Um, the leak and break program is a part
of the private side, um, program.
And as you know, uh, those are unpredictable. We never know.
We, we replace them and, and,
and, uh, fix them as, um, residents,
let, let us know about them.
So the rest of that, um, that hasn't been spent by the end
of this year is because we're
dedicating that to the leaks and brakes. If
You could provide through the chair where those are
and which category there are,
because as the commissioner stated,
and for our, our public, you have what you just described.
You also have the various programs like the daycare
and the other equity programs
that we do for quality of life.
And then you also have the block by the block level events
where are, which are not necessarily captured,
but still require the work.
So if you could share that breakdown
through the chair, I would appreciate it.
Um, when I look at Complete Streets on page 12,
where in this deck
does it discuss things like trip hazards
and other, other things that CDOT has to
do on a granular level in our, in our wards?
Okay. What your, the hazardous sidewalks is taken care
underneath the sidewalk and pedestrian right away.
Page 16. Page 16.
And I also wanna clarify your one statement about the
33 million that's underneath the, uh, menu.
Um, that engineering support is for project management.
It oversees design, support, support, not just the,
the estimates or the surveys that you're speaking of.
It also includes oversight
and coordination of our in-house fci, uh,
in-house construction crews for the menu.
So it supports more than
This is connects we're talking about, correct.
That's connect, yes.
So with with respect, when we talk about connects,
why do they work on holidays
and weekends when we're not here?
Why are they billing us more as opposed
to working within our timeframe?
Because I mean, you want, we want to get the work done
as quick and as fishing as we,
If our crews are not working,
why are our engineers working?
They're on a Saturday, they're
Doing design Work, but they're,
but no commissioner, if I may, I'm sure if we were
to look at the time sheets of when Conex does work,
they are billing us for weekend
and holiday hours when your department
and their departments that they're connected
to are not working, which tells me
that they are overcharging us on purpose to maximize
how much their billable hours are.
So I think that when we're talking about who's manipulating
what, I understand the job of an engineer, you want people
to make roads that are right, alleys
that are flat and things of that nature.
But at the same time, there's a way
of working within the construct
of a five day work week that makes sense.
Where we're not being overcharged specifically
because someone wants to manipulate billing
to make maximum profit.
Okay. In July,
if I may continue, the finance committee chair,
the finance committee had a discussion
upon which we were addressing among other things
related to cdot uh, our bonds and things of that nature.
And one of the questions that was asked
to the department was with re was, was with respect
to trip hazards, I believe that we've already settled
four trip hazard settlements.
There were roughly $250,000 each
with more on the rise.
We were informed that as of July 16th, 2025,
there are 4,611 trip hazards
in the City of Chicago.
Trip hazards as defined by the department,
can require the replacement of up to three cement tiles.
So in this
presentation, does the $29 million
cover the full replacement of the 4,611 trip hazards?
The additional,
The 29 million oh
And correction, it was 1.7 million in lawsuits so far,
year to date, 2025. The
24 million locations is just an addition.
I mean, every location is, is has a different, you know,
every location is different.
So we had, it'd be evaluated on a case by case.
So these are 2,400
recognized trip hazards
Or it's just an estimate of how many we, we anticipate
that we estimate the deal based on average cost
of per uh, repair that we make.
So if I may, four lawsuits have cost us nearly
$2 million to, in a litigious environment
where we've seen that crowd
migrate from police to now CFD
and to now your department, CDOT has already cost us
at minimum almost $2 million for trip hazards.
And rest assured commissioner, it's not just you.
'cause there are streets and sand
and others that are costing us starting
to ratchet up settlement costs.
But when you say that we have an estimate,
but with a hard number associated with it,
how do you come up with this number
and how are you not planning to address the
nearly double that had been reported
and that the city is aware of?
As I stated before, the s it is an estimate based on
information that we have
and that's how we came up with the estimate location.
So the number can vary based on the different locations
and the d and the different
hazards that needs to be repaired.
And far as the department we are,
we do take this very seriously.
I mean, 'cause we are, this is not the only place
where we're doing sidewalk replacements,
we're doing sidewalk replacements on other projects.
If it's a bridge project,
it may be sidewalk replacements in
there, but it's a bridge project. We,
I'm not talking about sidewalk replacements,
I'm talking about hazards
that we are getting hammered on. I'm, what
I'm saying is hazard, There's a difference
and I wanna make sure that we are
understanding there's a difference.
I understand where you're coming from. What the hazards.
Hazards, I mean they're getting picked up on other projects.
They can get picked up on menu projects.
I mean they all come in as CSRs
and we address 'em in the order.
They come in because a hazard. Yeah.
Okay. I, I'll moving up.
I I do wanna just, so when you look at the category,
it's $144 million.
The 24,000 2,400 locations is in addition to
what we will already be able
to do under the $95 million in current investments.
So this is, this is
because of the fact of what you're saying.
We have, uh, a number of hazardous sidewalks.
We wanna make sure that we have the funding to support, um,
not only the ones that we're currently doing,
but any that come up, especially through judicial order.
So this is, this is an enhancement to the funding
that's already set aside
to support the number that you're talking about.
I don't wanna belabor the point,
but as you know, director, what we have seen
from the law department is that we are being hit
with lawsuits for things that have not been
responded to in 40 days.
So if we know as of three months, four months ago
that we had X number to deal with that are,
that is thousands of possibilities of lawsuits
and settlements that we're gonna have to deal with.
We're finally coming out from underneath the dark chapter
of CPD settlements.
I don't wanna turn the page
to chapter number two, headline cdot.
Um, chairman,
I will just one more item
and then I will give the team a break
and yes, Julie, I do see you there.
So, um,
with regards to street lighting, um,
I'm gonna just touch on this topic briefly
because I do believe that in many communities,
piggyback lighting isn't just a matter of decoration,
it's a matter of public safety.
Um, other communities have been able to tap into
tiff or other funding streams to
allocate and to install the modern
breakaway aluminum spun poles with piggyback lighting.
Um, and then there are other neighborhoods
that simply do not have additional funding options
available to them like that.
In my case, what comes to mind
are communities like Chicago Lawn
and Gage Park, where you have the
68-year-old green poles that are
cemented in, rusted out
and have that wonderful yellow haze in the neighborhood,
oftentimes eclipsed by trees and other things.
Um, but definitely do not provide the same amount
of lighting as five poles
and 10 bulbs when you have only three polls.
Those communities, by the way, have also seen
law enforcement at a disadvantage
because of the fact that it is
so dark in those neighborhoods.
What immediately comes to mind is Officer Luis Huska,
who was killed in a robbery attempt coming home
after his shift in Gage Park,
when we have hundreds of millions of dollars available
for lighting, the department
and this administration specifically cannot
pick favorites on communities when every one
of our communities that has those old lights is in danger.
It is a public safety issue.
Would it have made a difference in Officer Hu's situation?
I think yes, because if he could have seen his attacker
coming, he might have been able to be prepared for it.
I know the previous commissioner
and I actually worked with our police districts
to identify heat maps where we could actually focus
enhanced lighting, upgraded lighting only to be ignored
by the department because as it was told to me,
the administration sets the priority.
Incidentally, when I was asking for the department
to look into this, it wasn't even in my own ward,
it was in someone else's ward.
But it was because the people in that community
and the officers trying to keep them safe,
were at a disadvantage.
So I'll end with this chairman.
I believe that we should have a, a larger,
more public assessment of these polls of our communities
as well as with the police department to determine
where it's most needed.
If you have a a, a community
where it lights up like a light bulb because of the crime,
but it's also dim because our lights don't work,
that should be a priority for the administration
for this department to put these lights in.
I have seen where, because of politics,
I could look at Western Avenue right now
and literally stretch out my hands and reach light poles
because they were put in so close just
to put 'em in a friendly ward
to avoid bringing them into mine.
That is shameful. And I think the department could do way
better than what it has been doing in that a in that area.
Thank you. Uh, alderman Lopez. Um, just a quick question.
Uh, commissioner Turner, 2,400 locations for the sidewalks.
That's just not the squares,
that's the whole block, is that correct?
No, it's per location. It's not the block.
So no, what's the location then?
The location size can vary based on what the hazard is.
Okay, so so it's not a block in its entirety?
No. So why, why wouldn't we
if we have these locations
and know that there's, that the, uh,
structure itself is beginning to, uh,
deteriorate based on the trip hazards, um,
why aren't we taking uh, an approach of, of uh,
fixing the whole sidewalk while we're there so
that way we don't have to come back at future dates?
Well it is case by case or where the hazard is.
'cause it may not be the entire block.
Um, the sidewalk don't experience the type of load
that the roadway has, so there's not a lot
of wear and tear on the sidewalk.
So therefore it doesn't, I mean,
we wanna make our money spread further
and go further, do more locations, not just
to do a whole block.
'cause that's more aesthetics than actually repairing the
actual hazard and spreading it out.
Um, so that money can go further.
Well when you talk about, so how,
how old are the sidewalk?
The, the sidewalks have been in place in some cases?
I've looked at the stamps. I'm a nerd.
I'm sorry, I looked at the stamps that are on the ground.
They're in the seventies, eighties in some cases. Yeah,
Well, like sidewalks, like I said,
they don't have the load
that people like you see on the roadways.
They don't deteriorate as fast.
You have just people walking across them.
As long as that sidewalk,
it hasn't been disturbed or anything.
It she'll last for a long time.
Like how long, what's what's that mean? What's a long
I mean it, it, it depends.
I mean it can go from between 50 to a hundred years.
How long a sidewalk can last
From how long to a hundred years you said?
Possibly, yes. If it hasn't been
disturbed or anything like that.
Okay. Alright. Yeah. One second.
And then, um, have you done an estimate on
how much it would cost to replace the poles?
I'm just curious. I know that at one point the ESCOs,
there was a, a project to replace the, uh, some of the poles
as well as some of the uh, the, the lamps.
Uh, I think that budget was about 225 million
or two 50 if I remember correctly.
Um, have we done an estimate as to what it would cost
to replace the remaining polls that are left in the city?
The remaining polls? I,
we haven't done an analysis on that.
Okay. Alright. Raymond Alman Lopez,
Thank you. If you could just provide
through the chair, commissioner,
how many of those trip hazards are tree related?
Because I think it's not fair
to beat up just on CDOT when it's also a forestry issue too
as well that is also responsible for creating
and maintaining some of these trip hazards as well.
Thank you by Ward. Thank you.
Vice Chair Moseley.
Thank you for that chair.
Uh, and thank you to the director and commissioners.
You all have been phenomenal partners to the 21st Ward.
I'm very grateful for that.
Uh, we know when we talk about equity 21st Ward has 255
miles of, um, uh, total, uh, mileage
and over 120 in terms of inside mileage
for equity to be here.
How do we look at the automatic menu in providing
that equity as opposed
to just being supplemented by the CIP?
Uh, you mean supplemented by Tiff?
No, the CIP. So I mean,
we talk about the goals of the program.
Page five, advance equitable investment
and improved quality of life across the city's
77 neighborhoods.
But when you have a war like mine that touches
and serves seven of Chicago, 70 sevens,
but we, we get the same dollars as someone
who may serve one or two.
How can we have more equity from an automatic menu
standpoint as opposed to the CIP?
So, you know, I would say that, um, a couple things.
One, you know, the Alderman menu supplements the overarching
work of our infrastructure program.
Um, and so when you take it into the context
of the entire infrastructure work, um,
and how it distributed across the city, um, you can see,
you know, other programs, whether it's Complete Streets
or resurfacing
or whatever it is that is making up that equity.
We are very interested in conversations around, um,
you know, aldermanic menu reform.
I think that those are gonna be tough conversations.
I don't think everyone on city council will agree
with each other around what that looks like.
But, um, you, you know, we are interested.
We welcome the, um, all, you know,
any elders, uh, thoughts.
If, if you have ideas on
how we can do within the menu program itself, um, uh,
equitable, uh, calculations, we're open
to those conversations.
But I, you know, I, I think like anything related to, um,
our wards and how we allocate amongst our wards, it,
it's something that we're gonna have
to have deep conversations about.
But it is something that we're very open to,
And it does look like there's some consensus,
or at least a starting point of saying, Hey, let's maintain
unilaterally the 1.5,
but maybe increase the dollars based on things like, uh, the
inside mileage that could be measurable.
Um, also when we talk about projects that the CIP funds
that are unilaterally, again, one light project,
one green alley for each ward,
when the impact just isn't the same, will we give
that same consideration to wards that are larger,
to have more than one light project, one green alley?
Yeah, I think, I think, um,
I think those are all good conversations for us to have and,
and figure out how we would, um, what metric
of equity we would be implementing.
You know, in this very hearing today,
we've heard two different ideas around Aldermanic menu.
So that's what I mean by, it's gonna take some time for us
to come to consensus as to what,
which direction we wanna go,
And how feasible is it for us
to just simply increase the amount
that we bond in order to cover that.
Um, I, I would say that, you know, for any conversations
around bond, we also wanna think about affordability
of the bond and the debt service.
Uh, which is why this bond actually, um,
is set at the rate that it's set.
Um, I think, again, from my perspective, I,
I think the conversation has to res revolve around
what is the metric that we're using to do the matic reform.
Um, how do we size the menu per ward
in a way that everyone believes is equitable?
And in this very chamber today, we've heard different,
um, thoughts on that.
And so I think that we just have to have a, a discussion
and, and get to arrive at a consensus,
Excited to be, um, uh, to engage in those conversations.
Uh, let me also ask you, page 14, the 14 million
for public safety cameras, does that include the funding
for the, the previous gunshot detection system?
No. The funding for the gunshot detection system is within
the, uh, 9 1 1 emergency surcharge fund.
And then when we talk about, uh, sidewalks for, uh,
a quick sec, I wanna go back and,
and ask, uh, commissioner, is there a way
that we can survey, um, potentially the block
and find other trip hazards there when there is a specific
location that is reported, uh, to reduce our, our risk?
Yeah. Currently we, you know, we go off to CSR information
and then we go out there and inspect it.
It, if we see other hazards, we can al also identify it.
'cause we take pictures and everything for evaluation.
So if there is one in the immediate area,
we'll definitely capture it.
I'm appreciative to hear that that is a part
of the department's policy.
As you already know,
when one resident sees their sidewalk being worked on
and they call our office and say, Hey,
I have a trip hazard as well.
Um, there's some frustration there.
Also, going back to the, um, uh, forestry issue.
Is there a collaboration when, uh,
you all do identify a trip hazard
that may have been caused by trees?
Uh, that forestry is brought in for some mitigation?
You know, one of the, the practices
that my office will do is if there is a tree hazard there.
Uh, or if, if there's a trip hazard,
we consider possibly using a discretionary removal so
that the overall problem is fixed.
And it's, it's not just the same thing
going over and over again.
Right. We're starting collaboration with, uh, streets
and sands, getting the conversation started.
So, 'cause they're on a grid system,
and we're looking to go to a grid system
for our sidewalk repairs with our in-house crews.
So we're trying to, we'll, we're gonna work with them to,
um, try to establish a process like do they go first
to trim the trees and the roots and then we come after,
or do we gotta remove the panel before they go out
and do the trim tree, uh, the root tree trimming of
what needs to be done out there.
So we are trying to work with our, with our, uh,
with Streets of Sands to establish some process
to create the synergies that's needed
to reduce these hazards. Right.
Uh, commissioner, um, with water,
when we talk about grid system, is there a way
for sewer cleanings inspections to be on a grid system?
We know that sometimes that's a cause
of flooding in the homes,
and when we do get those inspections
or cleanings done, uh, residents see a reduction in,
in the floods on the block.
Uh, but it's something that residents, it's not top of mind
for residents until it's too late.
So we are looking at, uh, some grid cleaning measures.
Um, we're just trying to work out
what those details look like on a,
on a bigger grander scale citywide
and what that cost would look like.
And as far as inspections, again, it's all CSR driven
and we've, we go to a location
and we see that, um, there is a, a, a main sewer
that is, uh, that is, that is, that is high, that is
above the bench, that's above this.
It's, it's normal and natural, uh, flow.
We will have them to take a look at the entire block
or the whatever that that portion of the system looks like
to make sure to see if there's anything in there
or if there's a problem, if they can't get it down
themselves, if they can get it down themselves,
then we bring a contractor in
so we can do a more in depth look
to see what's going on with the system.
Great. We saw some of that in my ward
with a operation clean where just some, literally as soon
as you took the lid off, it was just compacted with dirt
and, uh, just wasn't top of mind for residents.
So I do wanna make sure that we, that there's a,
a very distinct difference between main sewer inspection
and catch basin and cleaning.
Mm-hmm. So when we do a catch basin
and cleaning, we do not inspect the entire block.
We only go specifically to that, that, to that address.
'cause that's the one that is, that is causing the problem.
Now, if there's an issue in the system itself will help
where water's backing up in the system, then that's
how we get into the main sewer cleaning.
I think what happens is that a lot of times in the,
in the automatic offices, people, you, the staffs think that
by putting in a catch basin cleaning, that,
that is a main sewer inspection or a catch basin inspection,
and that's a mainstream inspection and it's not.
Got it. And I was actually speaking
to the catch basins in terms of a grid and,
and issues that we see, uh, there.
Um, my, my last question is, uh, probably
to you commissioner or to the director as well.
Um, I, I love the efficient move of what we're doing
for fire in terms of fleet vehicles, um,
and looking to order ahead, uh, predicting are we doing that
with other departments as well?
Uh, particularly streets and sanitation.
Um, maybe water as well.
Thank you for the question. How are you? Um, yes.
So we are having those conversations with fire.
In fact, I believe this week we're starting those
conversations of how we can get ahead of the game.
Um, but yes, absolutely, we should be doing the same thing
with Streets and Sands.
Cdot. Um, on the,
the fire department equipment is probably the
longest turnaround time.
That's why we wanna address it.
We're talking two or three years for us to place an order
and then to actually receive the equipment.
Um, streets and Sands, cdot, not so much.
It's, it's not that long.
So fire department we do wanna address. Yes.
Great. Thank you so much. Thank you. Chair.
Robert, turn, are you,
Excuse me. We're gonna,
um, stand by
for five minutes while we go next door to create a quorum
for, uh, the budget committee
and then we'll come right back here.
Give us five minutes.
Yeah. Budget. Yeah. Budget.
They haven't started budget yet. 11 o'clock. No.
See you Alex, you had a question?
You had a question, right? Yes.
Um, we had our next, uh, council member
that had a question was, uh, alderman Cardona from the, uh,
31st Ward.
Any other questions from members of the committee?
Uh, followed by, um, mon, uh,
Lenny Mana Howorth, you have questions?
Oh, I'm sorry. Strike before. Um, mana Howorth. I'm sorry.
Um, alderman Hall, then Alder, and then Alderman.
Uh, Howorth.
Thank you Chairman. Um, this is question for,
uh, budget director.
Um, I have a, I have a question for you right here.
Um, when you were speaking,
you were talking about automatic reform.
Could you explain more in detail what you're trying
to communicate to us? Yeah.
Um, so, uh, a couple of your colleagues had talked about,
um, how we can more equitably distribute funding
amongst the wards based on
the size of their wards.
'cause not all wards are created equal.
And what I had mentioned to him is we are very open
to that conversation.
I think it's gonna be a very in depth conversation
with a lot of different points of view.
Um, because there's 50 elders
that will probably have different ways
that they want to attack that.
Um, in fact, in this very committee,
we've heard two different ways
that alders would like to do that.
And so based on that, I think we have
to enter into those conversations,
gather all the different feedback from, from each alder
look at, you know, the affordability of doing something like
that, and then come up with a metric that actually
I, I think, gets to everyone's goal,
including the administration's goals.
Okay. So are you,
I know every word is different in population and size
and how it's drawn.
Um, so are you referring to like menu money
or part of the ca uh, CIP plan?
The, the question was specifically about the
Aldermanic menu category.
Okay. Well, I know that's gonna, and,
And, and what I was, in addition to
what I was saying about what, what those reforms look like,
I was also saying that the menu is only one part
of a much broader CIP plan, which,
which at its very heart takes equity into account
around distribution of dollars across the city.
Um, and so as we think about the fact
that the menu is a set amount, how do we then
tie the other parts of the CIP to in to ensure
that the CIP is equitably,
dis distributed, was what I was saying. Okay.
Okay. Um, I know that's gonna be a very hard conversation
because it all deals with budget
and where the money's gonna come from and things like that.
But I'm very open to it
because I think, um, you know, as years go by,
um, budget increases in, for example,
cement pricing, um, asphalt pricing all goes up
and we're stuck to that one bottom line number,
which in turn gives us less, um, less to do
because it costs more to do.
So, um, you know, I would love
to be part of that conversation.
Um, thank you so much, commissioner Water.
I just gotta, um, how do we, how do you see, um,
I know we talked about this mon um, is there money for
the private sewers?
Um, uh, um, forget what they're called.
Um, doing the line, the private, not private sewer line for
The, for the private drains.
Private drains. Um,
So currently right now, there is a program that we, uh,
utilize that, um, up to a four flat.
I do believe that if it is on city property and there's,
and there's a break in it, then we will fix it.
Um, but also, I always remind people that
that's a first come, first serve
and we get there when we get there.
'cause it's a free program because technically that lateral
that, uh, that private drain does not belong to the city
of Chicago is the full responsibility of the homeowner.
Um, so we're looking at how we can reevaluate
that program now as well.
Okay. Do you still have some that are still outstanding
that did apply when you haven't, um,
gone into, uh, fixing it?
Or is there a pause
or you just continue trying to do the best you can? As, so
We finally have our, um, our, uh,
private drain contracts online.
Um, I believe there is approximately between 200 and 250
and a backlog that we're addressing with the contractor
as well as in-house, uh, forces.
Okay. All right.
My questions are done. Thank you, chairman.
Thank you. Alderman Cardona, alderman Hall, followed
by Alderman Hopping Worth. Thank
You so much, Mr. Chair.
First of all, I wanna start with gratitude, um,
to both CDO water and, uh, two fm.
Thank you for always being present.
You all have been consistent, um,
have really saved our ward in some, uh,
difficult situations.
And then especially youre coming in in the middle
of the year having missed the beat.
So thank you all. In addition to, um, you three,
behind you is, um, our deputy mayor, Lori Lipson,
who has been a, a very present help in some
difficult times too.
And so, on behalf of our ward, we wanna say thank you all
for being present.
Um, my question is, I think, uh, already been asked, um,
and answered, but I want to maybe just in case, uh,
for our budget director, what has been the, uh, impact,
if you could maybe summarize it on the purchasing power
for our, uh, CIP under Trump?
That's a, that's an interesting
and difficult question to answer, um,
because it involves not just our CIP
but the CIP that we have with our sister agencies, right?
So, you know that certain, um, grants that we have
received, inked
and signed very ironclad agreements
with the federal government, have been, um, purported
to be terminated by the, by the Trump administration.
This includes our grant, our massive grant with,
uh, for the CTA.
Uh, this includes mass, uh, massive grants for CPS.
Um, this includes our UAC grant, um, for our, um,
for our, uh, public safety offices, which does actually,
you don't really see it in this, uh, CIP plan,
but that actually mostly funds equipment for our,
uh, public safety offices, um, to, you know,
a whole host of other things, right?
Yes. Our, our safe city, uh, grant
and so forth, which funds CFDs, um, uh, programming,
uh, security programming.
So there, there, you know, I, I will say that the, the,
the great thing about infrastructure is
that infrastructure hits both blue cities
and blue states as it does red cities and red states.
So there's been less of an impact, uh,
overall on the dollars that we've received.
But again, we have seen in some of the most critical grants
that the federal government, um,
under previous administrations has signed with the city
of Chicago, um, the,
the proclivity of this administration
to challenge the appropriation.
The one thing I will say, um, lastly about that,
we do have a, a very large grant that we got from
the federal, uh, uh, administration under just right
as Biden was leaving office for, um, infrastructure work
around flooding, which knock on wood they have not
tried to Gotcha.
To take away from us. Yeah.
Um, by a rough estimate, how much is that, uh,
with numbers when you say, you know,
Um, I mean, the CTA grant is,
you know, billions of dollars.
Um, the,
You have a rough estimate.
I don't have a rough, I can get that for you. Gotcha.
Um, the, the reason being is definitely send that
to the chair because I definitely want to articulate
that number, estimate number to our ward,
because when we, you know, see the effect of the
terrorism seen in our economy, um, it trickles down
to streets, trickles down to sidewalks,
trickles down to services.
So I definitely want to be able to communicate to the ward
how much we've lost, uh,
and what this does look like as it pertains to, um,
the impact on our ward.
Your, um, amazing deputy mayor just actually got her
fingertips on it a lot quicker than I could.
It's $2.1 billion,
So 2.1 billion billion in infrastructure deficit.
Last but not least, um, as it pertains to,
and I know that we, uh, discussed this, uh, uh,
CDOT in our meeting, um, the commitment to
improving technology, uh, around, I mean, we have some of it
with three one one you can call the app tells you
where it's at with the status, so forth and so on.
Um, I guess is there a way, um,
to, or are there other cities that we are looking at
that gives us as alders as well as departments
and CDOT water,
or to fm more status updates so that we can articulate?
So for example, um, if Ms.
Jones' block needs sidewalks, it's not to say
that it's not been ordered.
It's not to say that we haven't met,
but we just don't know where you're set.
And so to alleviate the tension from re residents to be able
to look at some type of device that says four weeks out,
eight weeks out, whatever that is, it is what it is,
but at least some type of concrete tracking of orders
to actual delivery, uh, for residents as well
as even elders.
What I would say is, um, with the state of
where technology is today, the answer
to your question is obviously yes.
The question is what are we willing to invest in it?
The, the, the, frankly the dollar figure, um, the,
the upgrades that we've done at,
at 3, 1 1 is just the tip of the iceberg, right?
Right. There's way more that we could be doing
and there's way more that we will be doing it, that
that was actually something that was in
the EY report as well.
Um, there are other cities that, um, have really
upped their game for 3 1 1, um,
from a technology standpoint.
And that's actually something we're gonna be, uh,
looking at, going to, and speaking to those cities.
And that's just one of the areas.
Uh, this CIP plan does include, um, uh,
something that I'm actually really proud of, um,
which was a collaboration between departments, water
buildings, DPD, around systems that integrate
around permitting, uh, for developers and,
and those who need permits to do their work.
Um, for the first time, there'll be a seamless system
that is connecting all of those departments together,
rather than you having it,
these departments doing their work separately,
and then you having to, you know,
get updates from those departments separately.
So, um, those are things that we're cons
that are constantly top of mind for us, um,
that we are including in this as well.
We, we hear Chairman Vegas loud
and clear all the time, technology,
and that's something that is top of mind.
Thank you so much.
Thank you. Alderman Hall. And I can't wait for the day
where a, a constituent, a developer
can go somewhere, submit a permit, submit a request,
track it, and be able to, uh, know, um, live
what we're statuses of the request, the permit, et cetera.
We're, we're close. We're getting there when, um, we have,
um, Alderwoman, Howorth followed by Alderman, WAPAC
and then Alderman, and then Alderwoman Lee.
Thank you Chair. Thank you Chair. Good afternoon.
Um, regarding the ERP,
well, firstly, thank you.
Thank you for all your work in the 48th ward.
I want to, um, say thank you.
We, we got through a big water main replacement
project together.
Um, it was really hard. Um,
and that's related to the questions that I'll have soon,
but as you were talking about the, um, the enterprise
resource planning was there, is there also a thought too,
because there's four departments here,
but what you do affects everyone,
and you were talking about integrating, um, many,
many different departments.
Um, so, and,
and we're talking about technology a lot.
I'm, I'm just curious why,
why we don't have other departments here, including,
um, technology.
Um, not, that's a great question.
So the, the reason why the, the departments that you see
before you today is
because the 25 through 29 plan, um,
includes the, um, the authorization
for a new two year bond, which is the 26 through 27 bond,
which is supporting the projects that are within
the deck that's before you.
And the, the plan that was sent out to, um, all
of the alders, the ERP plan has been in the CIP
for about two years, two to three years.
Um, and that plan is currently being worked.
Um, we are more than happy
and I'm, I'm one of the, the clients of the ERP project,
so happy to answer any questions about that.
And I do believe that there were questions asked
of the C-I-O-C-I-O
during his budget hearing specifically about CIP, uh,
Julie's also, um, one of the, the client, um, departments
for the ERP plan, uh, project as well.
Um, so it's four department, five departments.
DOF is the, the main department, um, my department
and, uh, HR service, the basis of the ERP.
And then on top of that is procurement and, um, two fm.
Um, and so that plan has been in motion
and has been within our CIP for, uh, several years now.
Um, so there isn't anything new that we're adding to
that within the plan, but I'm happy
to answer any questions you might have about the
E-R-P-E-R-P program.
Is, is that information
that we pour into there gonna be integrated into a public
website where we can all see where our money is going?
This is a very important hearing, I feel,
and I what you all do is the manifestation of what we do
as a city to come together and share resources and,
and, uh, increase quality of life, like you're saying.
Um, it's, it's what we see.
And so, uh, again, I, I'm, I think
that this is a very important, um, conversation,
and I'm a little frustrated that I feel like
it's very late in the budget season
that we're having this conversation.
Um, and I'm, you know, two and a half years into my term,
and I, and I don't think
that we've ever had something like this.
So I would like a commitment that we're gonna do more, um,
because this is, as, as you heard from Mosley,
it's an equity issue too.
And so I would like to understand, you know, how is it
that we are showing Chicago that what we do
is through an e equity lens and be as transparent about it
and not have to dig for the information that we need.
Um, I would like love it to be, um, easy to be explained
to constituents no matter where they live.
And I appreciate that. Um, the, uh,
so we release the plan every year.
It's, it is a five year plan.
The, the document is released every year.
But in addition to that,
we do have a dashboard on the budget website that is, um,
a visualization, uh, um,
of the projects across the city.
Um, ERP is in that project,
it's obviously gonna affect the entire city.
So you can go on there and you can zoom in on every project.
You can determine by clicking on it, uh,
where the projects are within each of the wards.
You can also, um, see for each project
what is actually funding that project.
Yeah. And I appreciate that information.
Um, what I'm frustrated about is
because it shows what we're spending our money on,
but not how we made the decisions to create those projects.
And I, number one,
and then number, well, firstly, I wanna go back
and say thank you for considering going to a grid, um,
evaluation of our sidewalks.
I think that's the right thing to do.
Um, but that's a kind of thing I think that we could be
showing off more in the city of Chicago, how we do this work
and how, how we make these decisions and, um,
and who is making those decisions.
You know, because from this hearing, it seems like,
seems like four people are making decisions.
I know that's not true. I know
that you are collaborative across many
different departments.
Um, and so, so for instance, for with our Water project,
um, that took a lot of coordination,
but I would also love to be able to say
that we solved problems
and we're gonna take those lessons learned
to the next project, right?
'cause I, I, I believe that things could be
fixed structurally, right?
So it shouldn't matter who's sitting in the seats in front
of us that we as a city are doing better.
Um, and I would like to see that in the website.
So can you speak on how we're gonna do that?
Um, the city's website?
Yeah. Um, like how is it, oh, okay.
I'll say it in a different way.
How is it that we're going to incorporate what Ernst
and Young found in their reports
and recommendations into the CIP, so that we're tying in
how we're doing things, our successes to our investments,
and how we're, um,
how we're making it make sense for the budget?
No, that's a great question. So what I would say, I think
that you'll actually see it in the budget, right?
So Julie
and I, um, are in the midst of defining the scope of work
around the fleet
and the real estate that the EY recommendations reflect.
Um, and so as we come
before city council to say, you know, here's the roadmap,
here are the buildings that we're selling, here's
how we're going to, um, implement new governance structures.
Because as I said in my hearing yesterday, some of this work
might end up in updated management ordinances that have
to come before city council, that, um,
reflect the governance structure for
how those decisions are made going forward.
Um, the second thing is, um,
So in that instance, you're saying that, you know,
you're taking all the assets, you're looking to see
what we need to sell or manage.
Yes. Right? And my question is, is
that gonna be publicly available?
Like, are, are our assets publicly available online now?
Um, meaning where the locations of our assets are?
I mean, I'll, I'll turn that question over
to, to the commissioner.
Yeah. And the reason why I'm asking is
because, again, like how is we're in budget season?
How is it that we are addressing the need to demolish
or maintain and replace, like, how,
how are those decisions getting made based on what
and who's making those decisions?
Thank you for the question, alderman.
Um, budget director, Guzman
and I, as she said, we're collaborating, uh, going
through the report, seeing
where we can really maximize savings.
Um, the facilities assets list is on the website,
so anyone can go and, and look at that.
Um, but moving forward, um,
and again, these are all things that we've wanted to do,
and we know that where we can maximize savings,
it's a matter of just hit the ground running, right?
So we're doing that, we're having our discussions.
Um, we'll be glad to share those successes
with you, of course.
Um, but as far as it being public, like, I
Don't know. I don't know the
answer. Okay. I'm just asking
because I don't, I wanna be able to explain mm-hmm.
To my neighbors mm-hmm.
How we are making our government, um, more efficient
and spending the dollars in a way that's equitable mm-hmm.
To maintain the assets that we have,
and also build where sidewalks have never been,
you know, existed before.
That's what I'm trying to understand.
And it's a, I know it's a lot,
and I think that, um, EY
also laid out those recommendations.
So I'm just curious, what are we doing here
with the CIP with those recommendations,
even if it's just first steps? I'm curious.
Understood. Deputy Mayor would like to,
Hi, Lori Lipson, deputy Mayor Infrastructure.
So as you're aware, alderman, when we have leases, they come
before the real estate committee.
And so you'll hear about those if we have purchases
for property, you'll hear through that through DPD.
Um, DPD has a site two FM has a site, so all the locations
are available for the public to view.
And most of them, you'll hear
through those two committees as well.
Deputy Mayor, For instance, um, uh, some
of the properties that were included, vacant properties
that were included in the EY report are actually up for, um,
committee hearing in housing.
I don't know when that committee is.
I think it might be this week sometime.
So, um, those are the types of, uh, ways in which, um,
I think City Council and the public will be made aware of,
um, how those recommendations are being implemented.
How, yeah. Sorry, I,
I might have missed it in your answer,
but how are those recommendations being implemented?
Right. So again, um, some of the properties that are, uh,
reflected in EYs report, um, like the vacant lots
that they have identified, um, DPD, like again, we, we talk
to every single one of our departments.
DPD is also in agreement.
Um, and so the ones
that they are selling are up in committee,
I believe this week, um, in the housing committee.
Got it. So,
so EY also
recommended performance-based reporting
and budgeting, and what is
what you're saying also going to be reflected in something
that we're showing to the public, like not just for,
not just for, um, the selling off of real estate.
I'm talking about like, for instance, any projects that,
that you all are in charge of right now.
That's what I'm talking about.
Um, I'm talking about construction projects, you know,
things that people can see.
Um, I understand that real estate is an important part of
how we can save money,
but again, I'm trying to, I just wanna be able to explain
to folks, um, the resources that we have, how is it
that we're cutting costs,
and also utilizing the recommendations from the EY report,
um, into the CIP.
What I, what I hear you saying is you want us
to take back, um,
and discuss internally how we reflect which
of the recommendations, um, along the way
and have been implemented and how they've been implemented.
We can talk about how we would, would be able to reflect
that publicly, um, and get back to you.
Um, as I said before, a number of the properties
that are in the EY report for sale are actually up for, um,
sale and approval during the housing committee this week.
Um, I don't know if DPD in that meeting is gonna say, oh,
this is one of the properties that EY
identified and recommended.
I, I, I have no idea if that's what they're gonna do,
but I, I hear the question
and we'll talk internally about how we continue to reflect,
um, how those recommendations are being implemented.
Yeah, thank you. So for, so for instance,
for the 48th Ward, you know, we've,
we had the water main project, we had street resurfacing.
Um, you know, there's a lot of complete streets, uh,
projects, which we're very grateful for,
and Alley resurfacing lighting and all of that.
And, and what I would like to understand is how we're going
to show that the maintenance
of our infrastructure is also helping to,
to save us money too.
And, and I also wanna understand through an equity lens,
like how we're making those decisions.
And I, I know that the ERP is gonna be helpful
to just pour data into,
but I still don't, I would like more information
along the way about how we're going to do CIP better,
that's more collaborative with the, with our offices, um,
so that we, and I, and, and,
and we, we have really great, um, project managers from,
from CDOT and DPD, and I appreciate that too.
Um, but I feel like this is a very important conversation
and, and it, it feels like need more needs
to be said here.
Um, so that, that's really what I, I,
I wanna understand like how, how is it
that we're evaluating projects after they're completed
and how we're showing the public, um, what we're doing, um,
is also responsible fiscally responsible
and helping us, um, improve the quality of life.
And I don't see that right now on the city's website.
I would like that to happen. Thank you.
Thank You. Uh, alderman Wack.
Thanks, chairman. And, uh,
thank you everyone for being here today.
So, um, this past year we did, uh, 830 million
in infrastructure, uh, go bonds.
Does that number fit into the additional 3.893
that's contemplated for this five year plan?
Can you, can you ask the question again?
Um, is the 830 million that was
for 2025 going into 26, does, is
that included in the 3.8 million that's, uh,
designated in the CIP funding for geo debt?
Um, that equals 3.89 billion?
Yeah. So as I mentioned, um,
before the, the amount of, of
geo debt within the $18 million plan includes not only the
existing bond authority,
but the 20 26, 27 bond authority as well.
So for the, um, 25 through 29, the,
this 3.893,
are we gonna be back loading it the same way we did
with the 830 million?
Uh, I don't know what you mean by back loading.
Well, we, um, we had a vote
where the city council voted on this
to not pay the principal until 2045.
So are we doing the same thing with this bond deal
where we're not gonna pay the principal until
sometime 20 years out into the future?
Um, I'm gonna actually defer that question to Brendan, uh,
white from the CFO's office.
Okay. Um, uh, as that is a bond question, which, uh,
we were, um, we have a hearing tomorrow
to talk about. So, okay.
Brendan, Hi, uh, my name is Brendan White.
I'm assistant Commissioner in the Department of Finance.
Um, so the initial, um, backloaded structure
that we had included in briefing materials
for the $830 million bond that was mostly, uh, illustrative,
um, doesn't actually reflect sort of like the actual plan
or how we think about issuing bonds,
and especially about how we think about
amortizing those bonds.
So, um, as an example, when we
issued a series of bonds, we, we issued, um, bonds
for the capital program, uh, earlier this year.
And what we're trying to do is we're trying to, uh,
we do have a lot of excess capacity on the long end,
but we also are trying to fill in, um, sort of intermediate
and shorter term, uh, where we can, in order to, we want
to try to have a level, uh, overall debt structure.
And so, for example, when we issued, um,
about $695 million in bonds earlier this summer,
that included, um, sort of intermediate, uh,
intermediate amortization in years 2032
through 2035, another, then there is like a peak in 2036.
And we have been amortizing bonds in the intermediate end
and not just doing, um, sort of long bull maturities, like
what was in the illustrative, um, presentation,
uh, earlier this year.
So the principal payments would be starting in 2032
for the 695 million.
So for that specifically,
You just mentioned 2032 to 2035, uh, intermediate.
Yeah, I would, I would have to pull up what we're modeling
for this particular CIP,
but the intent is to not just go as long as possible,
but to try to level out our debt service, um, in the future
and where there are pockets where we can amortize debt
to take advantage of that.
Okay. Could you provide that through the
chair tomorrow at finance?
Um, or actually yes, through the chair for finance.
But if, uh, the chairman here would like it as well
through this committee, that would be helpful.
Uh, not just on the 830 million that you mentioned
for the intermediate issuance,
but also for what is contemplated for the entire
capital improvement program.
Yeah. Thank you. Um, now going on to,
um, part of that is, uh, are, are we, uh, going to
increase the menu funds?
The last time we had a significant increase
for the menu funds was with the one green alley.
So if we're borrowing, uh, this additional 3.8 billion,
will we see an increase in the menu funds by any amount.
So we're not borrowing 3.8 million.
The 26 through 27, uh, bond is, um,
1.3 billion.
Um, the allocation under that for Allman menu is, uh,
consistent with prior, uh, authorizations,
which is 108 million per year.
So it won't go up. It's the, it's consistent
with prior authorizations,
So it won't go up.
Thanks. Um, all right.
So, uh, just going on to, um, a couple of issues
that came up recently was, uh,
and I know, um,
law department would probably say they can't really talk
about it, but we had an a DA lawsuit that was just filed
for tens of millions of dollars.
Are we going to prioritize a DA, um, issues in our,
um, infrastructure, especially
where it states on page 1620 9 million
for the hazardous sidewalk repairs?
So, uh, the CIP, uh,
does prioritize a DA in a, a couple of different ways.
The first is through the increase in funding
for our streetlights, I'm sorry, our traffic lights.
Um, that is in direct, um, compliance with judicial orders,
but it does dramatically increase the amount
that we put towards traffic lights to implement a signals.
Signals. Yes. Um, in addition to that, the, uh, amount
for our sidewalks, and,
and just so you know, while we do have a sidewalk
category within our CIP, it's not the only
category in which sidewalks are actually mm-hmm.
Um, uh, paid for, um, complete streets.
Um, and other, uh, categories also have sidewalk repairs.
But within the sidewalk category is the funding specifically
for hazardous, um, uh, sidewalks.
And that is in addition to what we
have under our existing authority.
So this will allow us to increase the amount of sidewalks
that, that are for hazardous uh, sidewalks.
Okay. But I don't know if you wanna add anything
to that. Okay.
And commissioner, would that, um, would
that include repairing a lot of either a DA sidewalks
or sidewalk concerns that a lot of my colleagues have that
we're asked to pay for out of menu?
Yes, it will be. It, it would include some of those, yes.
So if I give you a list of sidewalks in this upcoming, uh,
tranche, then I would, I could expect
to get those repaired after. Um,
Well, we evaluate all the sidewalks
based on the order they come in.
So if they're included in there and they're in the queue
and they'll be processed in the same order.
Okay. And then, um, just to, uh,
just finalize questioning, so, um, we,
I think you were up, uh, about three weeks ago in,
in the budget hearings
and we were still waiting for your department's responses.
I don't know if you have been able to public those yet.
You'll get those, those today.
You'll get those, you'll get those today.
Okay. Um, alright.
Well I appreciate and I'll look forward to those responses.
Thank you very much. Thank you, chairman. Thank
You. Uh,
director, just as a point of clarity,
the automatic menu is 1.8 or 1.5?
It's 1.5. Okay. Thank you.
It's 108 in total per year.
Perfect. Thank you so much, Alderwoman Lee.
Hello. Um, good morning everybody. Good morning.
Happy CIP day, um, in the middle of budget, which is,
is kind of weird to see you guys in this room
and not in the other one right now.
Um, I'll jump into, um, if
we're gonna get the CDOT stuff through the chair tomorrow,
then I won't, I won't ask it again today
'cause I was gonna repeat one of them.
But, um, I'm looking at, um, I'm gonna just make a plea
for Aldermanic menu, right?
I know that what we have budgeted is the 1.5
and we haven't gotten an increase,
but the prices keep going up.
So essentially what that means is we have less
buying power for our awards.
And I appreciate that. The CIP program, the gobo
and all of that does stuff all over the city.
Uh, but I do just wanna put a plugin for that.
'cause one of the things that we do appreciate getting is
the extra green alley.
So this leads me to a through the chair
for, uh, commissioner Taylor.
Um, can we get through the chair a comprehensive list
from, uh, this CDOT menu program by ward of every alley?
You don't have to list out the addresses.
I just want ward and account of the number of alleys
that CDOT has recommended we do a concrete alley for
because of a flood risk.
My point in all of this is that we never have enough.
Um, every time someone comes in to talk
to us about an alley needing to be resurfaced
or flooding that's happening in their alley, um,
oftentimes the recommendation will come back from CDOT
that we need a, we need a green alley.
But given the funds that we have,
we really can't do more than two a year.
One that we pay for and one that the, um,
that the CIP picks up, um, I would contend that we,
we have way more, I, I don't know
what it's like in other words, but I know
that we probably have at least 20 in the queue
and every time we, uh, we have another person coming
to complain about an alley, we know it's, it needs to be a,
a green alley unless we have some other engineering fix for,
uh, for alleys that are flooding, excuse me.
Um, The block level,
uh, water, uh, lead service line pilot.
Love it. Thank you. Want more of it? Please.
Um, even know, uh, I, listen, I, I appreciate, um,
how successful that program's been.
I just really wanna thank you
and your team commissioner, um, for all the great work
that we're doing together, um, in, in the 11th ward.
I know you've got this going on a few other places as well.
Um, but I think it's been really great that we've been able
to in these, uh, in these little sweet spots, um,
where it makes sense to, to do this on a block level,
that we're taking advantage of that while we can
and have the funding for it.
Um, I'm sorry, everything is a little bit outta order here.
So I'm gonna jump back to cdot.
Um, looking at street lighting, um, for 5 million
for arterial street lighting for 10 blocks.
Um, is that for the entire, this is for the,
the next two years, the 26 to 27, um, bond authority?
That just seems a little light.
I mean, so can you comment
or maybe that's through the chair of, of what the needs are
compared to what we're doing, um, in this time period.
Yeah, we can get you to answer through the chair. Exactly.
Yeah. I know you guys have really good data about,
you know, where we have lighting issues.
It just, that just seems, uh, kind light
and we know how important lights,
good street lights are for public safety.
Um, so similar, uh, to the,
through the chair request I just made
for the concrete alleys.
Um, for wa uh, excuse me. WPA street replacements.
Do we know how many we have?
Um, still that need to be replaced?
I know that I've got a few,
but I'm just, I'm wondering what
that's like all over the city. Across the city.
Yeah. Well I don't have that number with me,
but we can get it through the chair. The number
That's perfect through the chair is great.
Um, and then $2.3 million
for signal replacement, um, in support of
what is a PS installation?
Sorry, I don't know what the acronym means.
Uh, a PS is accessibility, uh, signal,
I mean pedestrian signals.
Um, do you have a priority list of locations for that?
Uh, yes. We do have a list that we're working from.
'cause we have a federal mandate to
get 'em, to get 'em done.
Uh, we are, we're ta uh, tasked with getting 70 completed
by the, by May of 2026.
And, uh, so far we completed 24 locations
and then, uh, in 26 to 27 from May to May, uh,
we're tasked with getting 110 done.
So we are working on an active list to identify
where we can, um, hit our numbers the quickest.
Okay. Can you provide through the chair
where those locations are?
I have a few that I've been talking to your team about.
I just wanna make sure they're in the mix on this.
I think Alderman Waba covered all of the other questions
that I was going to ask too.
Um, yeah, I think we're good chair.
Thank you. Thank you everybody.
Thank you.
Alright. Uh, thank you commissioners and directors.
Uh, since there is no further business, may I have a motion
to adjourn by the same roll call vote that was applied
to determine form ottoman wack spac.
So moves here. No objections.
So ordered the committee on the,
the meeting on the committee on e economic capital
and technology development is adjourned.
Thank you everyone. Thank.