Good morning, and thank you for joining us for this committee on Health and Human Relations meeting. It is 10:25 AM on October 9th, 2025, and this meeting is now called to order. On today's agenda, we have three items. The first is the appointment of Angela J. Green as Commissioner of Chicago Department of Family and Support Services. Second, a resolution from Alman Hopkins, calling for an expression of support for the federal government to pass the American Center for Cures, legislation, and third resolution from other Fuentes and associated subject matter hearing with Chicago Animal Care and Control regarding their shelter operations and community engagement. Before we begin, I will call the role to establish Quorum Vice-Chair Ramirez, alderman Robinson. Alderman Yancy, wo Gutierrez Alderman Lopez, alderman Ccho Lopez, alderman Fuentes, Derman Cruz, alderman Casada, alderman Lawson, Alder Woman Man in Howorth other Manhattan, Rodriguez Sanchez is present. We have eight members present. We have a quorum. I want to recognize Alderman Hopkins here. Nonmember, thank you for being here. We have a request for remote participation setting Rule 59 from other women. Cruz, can I get a motion to approve her remote participation? So moved by other woman, Gutierrez. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed say nay in the opinion of the chair. The ayes have it. Other woman. Cruz, are you online? I'm here. Thank you. You've now been added to the roll call. Uh, we will begin our meeting with time for public comment. This period is limited to 30 minutes, and each speaker is limited to three minutes. We have 20 in-person public speakers signed up, and we don't have any virtual public speakers. And we're going to start with Mr. George Blakemore. Um, in the interest of time, because we have so many speakers, we're gonna do two minutes per person. Thank you. So that everybody gets a chance to speak. We're gonna do two minutes so that everybody can speak. Go ahead, Mr. Blakemore. Human relat, uh, committee, human relation, how human beings relate to each other. And I'm appalled to come to this meeting and see the, the hunters, uh, a white faces. How did you, uh, market a, uh, uh, or did you market to the black community? This just didn't happen. You created that to happen. All white folks. You, uh, your human relations is, is terrible. It, it's disgraceful. It's, it's un-American. And all of you here, 99% of you are Democrats. A one party system like communist, China of passage, Germany or Russia, a one party system, no checks and balance. And look at here, where are the aldermans? And when I came in here, I said, oh, look at here. Look at all these white folk. How did you market this, uh, uh, inform black people about this meeting? And why didn't you? Because black people are very involved in, in the system with human relations. Young lady, this is a sad day. No, don't tell me about the minutes and seconds is you? All of you. This is not a good look when you have a multicultural, a city to have 90% of the people in the committee meeting that are not black you. Thank you for your comments, Mr. Blakemore. Uh, next speaker is James Howorth. James Howorth. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you about caring for homeless animals in Chicago. My name is James Howorth. I live in the second ward. I've been a volunteer at Paw Chicago for over four years, assisting P Chicago in animal care, adoption counseling, public outreach, and new volunteer training. PAW Chicago is ca C'S largest transfer partner, having, having taken in almost 2000 animals last year and almost 1400 in the first eight months of this year. Without overwhelming you with statistics, I would like to draw your attention to just a few points. Adoptions at CACC went up by over 28% in 2024 over the previous year. And this year they are up another 26% year to date over last year. At the same time. CACC is the lowest funded animal care agency of all large cities, both in total funding and per capita. For example, funding for animal care in Houston is nearly $16 million. Austin, over $21 million and Los Angeles over $62 million. Chicago's funding stands at only $7.7 million. We are the only major city to have reduced funding in the past year. Meanwhile, intake numbers at CACC have increased in each of the past three years by 10%, 18%, and 22% respectively. We're proud of the success of our partnership with CACC, but the city of Chicago needs to step up and do its part to adequately fund this effort. We can do so much more working together with your support. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. I have Abigail next Abigail, and then after Abigail, I have Cynthia. I, Good morning. Go ahead. My name is Abigail Spencer. I am a volunteer with few lines of Chicago and Hyde Park Cats. I'm also a community caretaker through Chicago Paws. My aim in speaking today is not to deliver just that. I instead hope to just share anecdotally the community spillover of funding these programs. There's one thing you take away from my speaking in particular. It is that when you fund programs, you empower people. You can see this effect today in this room. The amount of people who have come in, albeit a bit demographically odd for the city of Chicago, but the amount of people who have come in today motivated to convince you to give us more resources to do the work we want to do. You already have the benefit of people loving animals, caring for them in their homes as a hobby, as a passion. Many of us lose money to do this work, and yet we still do it. But when there is more money, what happens is people who are less economically empowered have the chance to now be paid. Staff, volunteers who don't need to spend their own money on medical bills, they don't need to do the transport because they have resources. The work that I do is most directly in Woodlawn. And I can tell you that most of the people in Woodlawn do not look like me. And in fact, many of the people helping cats in Woodlawn do not look like me. I'm able to be here because my job supports it, because I'm able to do cat rescue even when I'm not being paid for it. But I don't want you to look around this room and think that all of these people are just here because this work is easy or because it's so accessible now, it is not. We need more funding so that Chicago's entire population can be involved in the capacity they want to with helping homeless animals. And we cannot do that without more money for CACC that spills over into all of these other rescues. Please thank you for your comments. I have Cynthia next, and then Anna. Good morning. My name is Cynthia Cook and I am in Ward 30. Um, so I'm here today, uh, as a Chicago volunteer who's worked in the big FIX program that was designed by PAWS and Chicago Animal Care and Control to help cats and larger dogs at CACC find their new home. So every morning my partner and I would hop in the paws van, go over and pick up a van full of animals, bring them over to P Chicago Medical Center, where they'd be spayed neutered. At the end of the day, we would take them back and be immediately available for adoption. And it is that immediately available for adoption that has made that program so successful during the time that this program has operated 931 cats and large dogs have been successfully integrated into their new homes. And yet, in spite of those efforts, um, there was still, there still was a gap in the time that it would take for someone to say, I really want to adopt that animal and the time that that animal would've been spayed or neutered, and then be available for adoption by law. And many families are unwilling to wait that time. And so as a result, they go to other shelters. And what ends up happening then at CACC, is that it has a growing number of unadopted animals and that leads to deadly consequences and, and outcomes for adoptable animals. And all of that is a reflection of what's happened with the budget for Chicago Animal Care and Control. It simply does not have the resources. Thank you for your comments. Have Anna Anna, ick. Good morning. Good morning. My name is Anna Ick, and as a concerned Chicago resident Active CACC, volunteer vice president of FE lines of Chicago and Animal Welfare Advocate, I'm asking the city to make meaningful investments in structural changes to improve conditions for animals, staff, volunteers, and the public who depend on Chicago Animal care and control. Most importantly, is improving the veterinary staffing and care standards. There are only three full-time veterinarians for the entire CACC population. And open positions, including kennel attendants and veterinary care staff directly impact the life of quality of life for animals in the building and must be filled immediately despite the current hiring freeze. Additionally, pause or another qualified veterinary organization should be reinstated to assist with vetting since their abrupt stop. Following the July mass spay neuter event, animals have been waiting far too long for essential services such as vaccinations and spay and neuter adopters face extended delays before they can bring their new pets home, leaving animals to occupy vital kennel space. For weeks during these preventable waiting periods, many animals become sick or exposed to diseases such as panleukopenia or upper re severe upper respiratory infections. As a result, these animals are often placed on deadline list and must be transferred to licensed Respir partners because the sheltered lacks the capacity to provide appropriate treatment, rescues and fosters across Chicago have been stretched beyond their limits, trying to save the constant stream of deadline cases from CACC as both the CACC volunteer and an active member of the local rescue community. I see firsthand how critical it is to address these issues immediately. The current standard of care does not meet ethical or humane standards, and this must be treated as a top priority by the city moving forward. Volunteers also are waiting months to be approved, largely because fingerprinting can only be done at a single downtown location during standard work hours. We're asking for additional fingerprinting sites in a simplified onboarding process. So willing and capable volunteers aren't discouraged and driven to other D organizations. Bringing new volunteers in should be as accessible and welcoming as possible. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker is Alexan Alexandra Fitzgerald and afterwards Alexis of Lados. Alright. Hello. Thank you everyone for, for coming, especially the city council members, um, who took the time to be here today. Um, I'm, my name's Alex Fitzgerald. I'm not representing a certain organization, um, but I have spent many years working in animal welfare in Chicago in different organizations. Um, the first thing I wanna acknowledge is that the CACC administration who are here today are operating with several major roles vacant, um, including that of executive director. Um, so there's only so much they're gonna be able to accomplish while they, these major positions are open. Um, I do have some questions I'd like to direct towards them that I think other folks, um, would be interested to hear the answers to as well. Um, so great. As other speakers have, have said, great progress has been made in increasing adoption since the pandemic in 20 24, 19 0.8% of animals taken to the shelter were adopted out. Um, CAT adoptions specifically have increased reaching a high of 24.9% in 2024. Dog adoptions in 2024 were lower at 15.3%. Um, so I just wondered if you could speak to why we are maybe seeing greater progress in cat adoptions as opposed to dog adoptions. Um, the percent of animals being returned to their owners is also down compared to years preceding the pandemic. Um, if, if, is there anything we can attribute this to or anything that might explain that, um, transfers are down as well compared to pre pandemic years? I know CACC used to have nearly 200 active rescue partners and now that number is closer to 100. Um, so I'm wondering if we know why, uh, all these rescues have stopped working with CACC. Um, I understand at a point, um, a veterinarian from the shelter medicine department of the Vet School at the University of Wisconsin. I, sorry. Thank you for your comments. We wrote down your questions and we will be asking them, uh, of animal care and control. Alexis. All right. Good morning. My name Morning is Alexis PDOs. I am a homeowner in the second ward. Thank you Alderman Hopkins for being here. Um, I wish more actually cared to show up. Um, so here to talk about a couple things. The two main points we need housing reform, similar to what has happened in dc they enacted in 2024 Roscoe's Law, it prevented, um, arbitrary like, uh, sorry, arbitrary, um, breed and weight restrictions, creation of pet friendly house homeless shelters and the caps on pet rent and security deposits. Um, one of like the proudest moments I've had this year being a Chicagoan has been seeing the community respond to the ICE raids. Like we understand like family in Chicago and these pets are our family. Nobody should have to sit there and choose between their pet or housing. It's just, it's inhumane. Um, second, we need a breed breeding ban in this city, there is no reason we are not a farm, we are not a zoo. We're not doing conservation efforts. This is the city of Chicago. Why is there animal husbandry happening in our city limits when pets are dying every single day that are perfectly healthy, perfectly adoptable, it's unacceptable. These people are sitting in the corner profiting off of their animals fornicating. It's just ridiculous. And that's not a job. I'm sorry. And if you think that's a job, I'm scared to see what you guys are gonna do as city councilmen because that simply is just not a job. We need to put a ban on it. You need to stop the bleeding because these people should not have to take time out of their day and their money to their own money to do something that should be a public service provided by the city of Chicago. We're one of the most underfunded animal controls in the entire country. We have some of the highest intake and it just simply needs to stop and we need to do something about it. And I think a breed ban it. It's due time. It's due time. Thank you. Amy Johnson is next. Amy Johnson. And afterwards, uh, Liz, Liz s Amy Johnson. Are you Here? Yeah. Good morning. Good morning. Uh, I am Amy Johnson. I'm a volunteer for Polish Chicago. I've been a volunteer for their 360 program with the, and bringing animals in to get spayed aneu in order to get them to their homes a little faster. Um, while I was there, I would see the staff doing o working overtime. So we would have, would take us five to 10 minutes to load up a, a dog into the van. They'd be multitasking and working on other things in their facility while they had a little bit of time while we're loading up. Uh, I've talked to volunteers who have been frustrated because there's no support or structure. And they had, they left because they couldn't, they didn't feel the support. And uh, like for, for instance, even getting asked to help with a, an adoption or something, they would, they didn't have the proper training. So I know this person in particular hopped in that day, but didn't come back because they were just like, I, I'm not trained on this. And to me, that comes from upper structure from within CACC and they just need the funding and the support within their organization. Um, and PAW has been able to, uh, secure someone to help with adopt adoption program, but they can't. They need help within the city to help fund these kinds of things. Um, yeah, the adoptions are up 26% this year to date in August, but there are so, so many dogs and cats being brought into the facility that they just need more funding. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. I want to acknowledge Elder woman Jesse Fuentes, um, as member of the committee and Elderman Bill has joined us as well. Non-member. Go ahead. Thank you. I'm Liz. Hows with Cats in Action? We're a Homeward bound partner with Animal Control. We're also a member of the Chicagoland Humane Coalition. Um, our mission is to help people who are feeding outdoor cats through a process called Trap neuter return. Um, we will help 1500 cats this year. We mainly work on the south side of Chicago, where I am seeing more abandoned, um, friendly and stray cats that I have ever seen in 15 years. It's epidemic. Um, cats are breeding on the streets faster than we can scoop them up, adopt them, and shelter them. We're losing the battle. We need to dedicate not only considerable more funding to animal control, but also earmark some of that money for trap neuter return. So what I did was an exhaustive search of public record, which I also submitted online. And I compared what other cities are doing throughout the country on a per capita basis. So Austin, Texas leads the way they allocate $23 and 75 cents, um, per capita for animal control. Chicago's last at $2 and 65 cents. Almost every other city also includes money, um, for spay neuter services for free roaming cats. Um, even New York City who hasn't historically done that, just received a grant of a half million dollars. So everyone is addressing the issues that are out there except Chicago. Um, last subject is we've had an interim executive director who's been doing the job of two people, uh, for three years. That's ridiculous. Uh, we'd like a nationwide search to find someone with knowledge, experience, and leadership running a similar organization to come to Chicago to lead us into the future. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next is Anna Johnson and afterwards, Stacy Price, Anna Johnson. Hey there. Uh, I'm Anna Johnson. I am with One Tail at a time, and I have been a Homeward Bound transfer partner intake representative, uh, working at CACC week after week for about 15 years now. In those 15 years, I have seen so little progress made on adding progressive programming to CCCs offerings, progressive programming that would help support the people and animals in our community. Things such as a foster program increased, uh, staffing for adoptions and just basic functions like answering calls for sick, injured and dangerous animals. Um, a couple of other speakers have already referred to the work that other cities have done with some increased funding to increase their life saving and positive outcomes. And we would love to see the same for Chicago. Uh, so in order for CACC to be a viable public resource, we have to provide adequate funding to support the basic necessary programming. We are a city who is full of animal lovers and we've seen that time and time again interacting with other people. We meet at animal control and in our daily work in animal welfare field. Um, and we also are a city full of incredible animal welfare organizations with tons of resources to share who are working really hard to fill those gaps that are left in the programming that's currently offered by CACC. So in order for CACC to fulfill their basic functions and just go beyond the bare minimum, uh, they need increased funding to serve the people in pets in our community. Thanks. Thank you. After Stacy tries, uh, it would be Dr. Rachel Wooten. You can start. Stacy. Hi. So I am the operations director at one tail at a time. I've been in the animal welfare space for over 15 years, 12 of that in the city of Chicago. And I can say that things are not improving at Chicago. Animal Care and Control intake continues to climb positions including leadership and veterinary positions remain vacant. And CACC continues to be woefully underfunded. These challenges are not due to a lack of caring from the community or the staff at CACC. There's a distinct lack of funding. Progressive programming and staff support for the animals and the resources that our community needs. Rescues simply cannot absorb every animal, and frankly, it's not our job. It is a public health and it's a safety issue. And I wish that I could tell you that animal welfare isn't political, but the truth is, animal welfare is inherently political. The oppression of humans and the suffering of animals are deeply intertwined. Fighting for animals means fighting against systems that dehumanize and marginalized communities. Real change is protecting the most vulnerable human and non-animal or human, non-human, sorry. And that is why I encourage you to prioritize allocating resources for Chicago Animal Care and Control and for the wellbeing of all of our fellow humans in the animals. Thank you for your comments. Uh, now we have Dr. Rachel Wooten, followed by Carolina Hernandez. Here. I had to fix it all. Okay. Um, hi, I'm Dr. Rachel Wooten. I'm a local shelter veterinarian. I'm currently at one tail at a time, but I've been doing and working with local rescues and animal sheltering since 2017. I've completed shelter internships and um, have done fellowships. So I do like to say I'm pretty good at this. Um, and I would like to just say I can't talk too long. Um, I would like to talk about more than just the animals currently entering the Chicago Animal Care and Control, but unfortunately we could only have the time to do this. So we really need to fund the staffing that is at Chicago Animal Care and Control. Chicago is one of the largest cities in America, and it is honestly pretty shameful how underfunded our animal care and control is. And there are a lot of models that we can follow. So if, for one example is Houston, um, which is a similar size of Chicago, they have their animal regulation and control. They are able to be at a 90% live rece live release rate of their dogs and cats entering their animal shelter. They are also an open intake shelter. So there really isn't an excuse that, oh, we just have too many animals coming in and we have to take them. In order to be able to do that, we have to fund the city and we have to fund the animal shelter that and the employees that are working there. So especially with medical care, it is really important that we are funding and adequately staffed because that is the only way you're going to be able to move the animals out of the program from entering in and being able to be adopted or more importantly, reunited with their families. And because of the staffing issues that we have at Chicago Animal Care and Control, we are unable to actually, um, do that and do it effectively. So it is really important that we are doing that. And all the rescue groups and people who are here, it should not be only on us to be able to take the very sick animals that are there. If you have the appropriate staffing and the structures with policies and procedures and vaccines or um, just, you know, basic prevention and um, able to do that for the people of Chicago, then we would have less animals coming into the shelter. We would also have less animals leaving, um, their families. That is the biggest important thing that I needed to say. Thank you for your comments. I Carolina Hernandez now and after, uh, Rosa Espinoza. Hi, my name is Carolina Hernandez and I work the community outreach program with one tail at a time. And in my time there, I have had the pleasure and honor of working with a diversion program that used to be at Animal Care and Control at least once a week. That program was crisp and that program did a lot for community for Chicago residents and community members who needed help with their pets, that they were either gonna surrender or try to find a way to keep and crisp allowed that the option to be keep my pet and keep them out of animal Care and Control. I, uh, at this time we don't have that option. Um, CRISP has not been allowed to continue working with Animal Care and Control. And in the community outreach work that I do now, I see that that is a big need. That is something that community members no longer have access to. Um, when they go to Animal Care and Control, they're faced with long wait times, not being able to go in at any time, but limited hours that many of them can't, can't go to. Um, so it would be great to have programs like Crisp, uh, more robust diversion programs available for community members and also more funding for animal care and control to be able to go back to the hours they had before to be able to provide additional services so that community members do not have to wait in line or just do nothing when they see pets outdoors because they're not able to go when, when they can. That is it. Thank you for your comments. I have Rosa Gomez and you're Espinoza Espinoza. Okay. After You is Rosa Gomez. Okay. I do TNR. Uh, I started with Cats in Action. I learned so many things how to do TNR before I didn't know what a feral cat was. Uh, we need more money, more for CACC for TNR. That's the only way we gonna help cats have less population. I don't, I'm not sure, but from while, while I was reading in Google, they spend more money on ization than doing a cat on the long run, getting them fixed. So if you would go outside on the streets and see how much suffering is out there, how much it's suffering, we go on the chats on Facebook that a lot of volunteers. We are in there doing it with our own money, our own time. It's very stressful, it's overwhelming, but we do it because of the love of cats or dogs. And I foster, I started doing first TNR and right now the amounts of money that we have to pay with our own money to TNR, the cats, we don't have it. Plus I'm fostering and I have stopped because it gets overwhelming. We get a lot of people at full capacity. People think, oh, the rescues take them out, they're gonna save them. No, it's not that easy. It's hard to find a foster. Sometimes we have to hold it overnight so other people can take it the other day. It's stressful. I wish everybody of you would go on the streets or go to CACC or being in the chats that we are. So you can see all the money that we spend. That's why rescues, we have less and less because we're getting all the bills and medical and we don't know what to do No more in the streets. We see a cat. Should I leave them there? Can I get more cats in my house? No, I cannot take more cats in my house. Can I ask my friend? No, she's full. Thank you. Next is Rosa Gomez and after is Heather Owen. Hi. Um, my name is Rose Gomez and I also do TNR, which is trap neuter return. And um, it is very stressful because the money to do TNR does not come from the city or from the different, uh, clinics that do the low cost tn r That money has to be raised. That money has to be paid for by somebody. And besides that, you need the equipment. You just cannot trap a cat if it's feral on the street. You just cannot tell the cat, please come inside the carrier. No, of course not. You have to trap it. You need the equipment. So we have to dedicate our time, our resources, supplies in order to do TNR. The city really needs to provide the money in order to advocate for all of the homelessness that is happening, specifically with the cats. And it doesn't matter if it's a friendly cat or not, there's many cats that are abandoned for whatever reason, people can't afford forward to keep the, to keep their the mascot or to keep their cat. So they let the cat loose. And what happens, they multiply and the, the, the suffering continues day in and day out. And we see the suffering because this, this is why we're here. Our hearts, I believe each and every one of us here, our hearts bleed for the animals because this is not something that comes in our mind, oh, today. And then we'll think about it in a month. No, this is something that we carry day in and day out. Every day we carry the burden of trying to advocate. But the bottom line is, you guys, you guys need to provide the money. That's all that it's about. We need money. And, and the director that's in place right now, Susan Capello, we need a permanent director. Why is that so hard? Why is that so hard? All you gotta do is interview different candidates that could be done tomorrow. What is the problem? Get on it. Please. The money. The money. The money. Thank you for your comments. Heather Owen is next. Followed by Lucy. K. Good morning everyone. Good morning. Um, thank you for being here. I know there's a lot going, going on in our city, so we appreciate this. Um, I live in the 35th Ward, so thank you Alderman Koda, appreciate your attendance. Uh, my name's Heather Owen. I am the co-founder of One Tail at a Time. We've been A-C-A-C-C rescue partner for 17 years, and I'm also a previous commissioner at Chicago Animal Care Control. I served from 2019 to 2023 in my 17 years working with CACC. They have gone through nine director changes. And right now we have an interim director who has been there for over two years while her deputy director position has remained vacant. Can any of you do your job without your deputy? I would quit and run far away. On top of the deputy director position being vacant, there are many vacancies in administrative leadership, medical animal care. There we have set our department up to fail and they are failing, um, on top of being minimally staffed. CACC also has a budget that's a fraction of what other major cities spend on animal services. And this year we had the nerve to defund them. We took away those positions while they were struggling. So if any of you, any of us go into CACC on any given day unannounced, this is what you're gonna find. A line of people surrendering their pets as well as a very long line of good citizens who came into surrender. Um, animals that they found it can take up to two hours for a good Samaritan to get a stray animal processed in. And then we wonder why are they stray in the parking lot? Why are they tied to benches? You will find a lobby with a handful of people waiting patiently to see adoptable animals. I came in a couple weeks ago and ran into an acquaintance and asked her what she was doing there. She was looking to adopt a cat. She waited over 45 minutes to be helped and eventually had to leave. When you walk into the dog pavilions, you will see ro after row of stressed out animals. Thank you for your comments. Lucy. Kay is next. Lucy and then Jillian has things. Lucy. Yes. Thank you. Go ahead. I'm so sorry I didn't hear. You're okay. Okay. Um, I'll keep it real brief here. Uh, there's been some amazing heroes here speaking today, and I'm, um, just so thrilled to see so many people and from all walks from no kills to supporters, to volunteers to rescues, from caring from different experiences. We all come with different perspectives and views on how to move forward. And, um, I'm, I can only share mine. And as a longtime volunteer at shelters across the US and fostering 33 dogs personally, I'm running to urgently addressed what I see over at CACC. And this is written in the spirit of collaboration and my observations are grounded in truth. I will continue where, uh, right away, where I believe Heather just left off about walking into CACC and experiencing the deplorable conditions. And that really does need to be addressed. Um, just it's, it's beyond heartbreaking. Um, one thing I'm, I'm unclear is, and I do agree with the budget needing to be addressed, but can we confirm when the last audit was? Because I still show it was 2013 and when was the last comprehensive? Um, I was just inquiring if there has been anything more recently. And we just need to address when, uh, how this allocation of funds is actually being used, uh, with the majority of it, I believe, from what I can see, going to the 7 million now, over 7 million going to staff, uh, salaries, 80%. And you know, what's left is for food and lifesaving initiatives. Um, I also wanted to recommend a, uh, again, emphasize a nationwide search for a director that's transformative with, um, a clear vision and co compelling passion for saving lives. Uh, staffing personnel who truly care about animal protection, engaging the community and are committed to ensure ethical standards, um, because it isn't just about funding. Thank you for your comments. I have Jillian next, and after I have John Davis. And lastly, Julie Darling. Hello, my name is Jillian Hastings and I am a curious citizen and a citizen journalist. And I'm here today because I want to know the story of what's happening with Chicago shelter dogs. Um, I want to say a few words. When I look into the eyes of a dog, I see a sentient being with the capacity for unconditional love. And I find it unconscionable that so many dogs, healthy dogs are euthanized daily. I find myself looking at CACC dogs on Facebook and crying daily. Um, I think it is a reflection of our society's tendency to say that's just the way it is, as terrible things take place. So I would like to appeal to all of your deeply feeling human hearts today. We need to fund CACC. We need to find them a visionary leader, and relax the red tape and bureaucracy. We need to listen to all of these amazing rescue organizations and people who have been working in this field for so long. And I would like to see Chicago become a leader in forsaking the system of war, violence and economics and embracing choices that nurture a compassionate and loving society. Ice, ai, Gaza, all of these things are interconnected. We need a society that cares, you know, and is compassionate. And this is just, you know, an example of that. And it will be reflected in the larger world when it happens in the smaller world. So thank you. Ruth Cruz. Woo. Thank you. John Davis. And then Julie Darling. Good morning. My name is John Davis and my professional background is in National Animal Shelter data. Despite media narratives, national intake and deaths are lower this year than both 2024 and 2019. What is happening here is not a product of national trends using CCCs own data definitions, nearly one in four dogs at CCC did not make it out alive last year. A rate far below that of many similar shelters. A nearly identical number of dogs entered CACC in 2019 and 2024. There were 604 dog deaths in 2019 and 1,548 dog deaths in 2024. An increase of 944 deaths are up another 15% this year. Nationally, 2024 was the best year for cats in US shelter history here in Chicago, 2024 saw the most cats enter CACC in 10 years. And the most cats dying since 2016. Adoptions have always been lacking in our city shelter, which heavily relies on transfer partners located on the north side or in the suburbs. Last year, about 22% of the dogs and cats that came into CACC were adopted out directly to families. Most other cities have rates two to three times greater among the large shelters nationwide. 94% adapted out a higher rate of pets than CACC. The south and west sides lack easy and accessible adoptions. CACC has a very low rate at which lost dogs a return to their families compared to other shelters in 2024, only 19% of stray dogs made it back home down from 29%. In 2019, getting back to this pre pandemic rate could have saved more than 500 dogs last year alone. CACC needs your support. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Our last speaker is Julie Darling. Well, good morning Everyone. Thank you for, um, being here today. I, um, I am completely blown away by the support that is shown up here in chambers, so you guys have no idea how important it is. My name is Julie Darling, and I hear I am here today to speak for the voiceless at Animal Care and Control. I started this process over a year and a half ago and through a series of relationships, met another advocate who together we got the right alders to finally hear us bringing resolution 1 8 6 7 7 to the council. A very special thank you to Alders Fuentes and Rodriguez Sanchez for getting us here today. Gandhi said, the greatest of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. He said, I hold that the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. And I echo very much what the speakers before me have stated today. So I implore you to look at alternative solutions to the animal crisis in our city. I understand budget is an issue, I truly do, but it's been my very personal experience with CACC, that staff truly needs our support in so many ways. I really want you to hear us with an open mind and help institute meaningful solutions work with us, including the much needed funding that commiserates with a city of our size. Thank you very much for your time today. Thank you. Um, this concludes the public comment period. Thank you to all the speakers, uh, who came to share your thoughts. In addition to today's, uh, in-person comments, our committee received 243 written comments that were forwarded to members via email. Comments emphasized the need for today's matter, uh, subject matter hearing by providing hundreds of personal stories, and highlight the concerns of the public in regards to operation at CACC. Comments also include support for Angela Green's appointment. A letter from unhoused neighbors asking for support at the Spark shelter and cost to fund our Department of Public Health. I want to acknowledge Alderman Robinson, that is with us in person and other woman Ruth Cruz, who has also joined us in person. Our first item of business is the approval of the Rule 45 report. Can I get a motion to approve the September? So moved by other person, Ava. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed say nay in the opinion of the chair. The eyes have it. Our first matter for today is 8 2 2 5 0 0 1 9 8 5 6, which is the appointment of Angela J. Green as Commissioner of Chicago Department of Family and Support Services. We have Commissioner Green with us here this morning as well as a few members from her team. I will pass it to the commissioner to introduce her team and to do a statement. New Chairwoman Rodriguez Sanchez. I have with me in the box Harley Jones, who is our first deputy of comm of, uh, first Deputy commissioner, and I have our managing Deputy Commissioner Raymond Barrett. And I have our Deputy Commissioner of Homelessness, Andrea Chapman. Thank you And good morning members of the Committee on Health and Human Relations. My name once again is Angela Green, and it is a true honor to appear before you today as Mayor Brandon Johnson's nominee to serve as commissioner of the Chicago Department of Family and Support Services. For more than 25 years, my career has been devoted to strengthening families and building systems that give children and communities the opportunity to thrive. I began this work in Indianapolis, Indiana at Children's Bureau Incorporated, where I developed the first innovative community-based child abuse prevention project in the state. That experience taught me that the most effective solutions are born when government works hand in hand with community partners and residents themselves. From there, I was appointed Deputy Director of Practice support for the Indiana Department of Child Services. In that role, I oversaw child welfare policy, quality assurance and information systems for the entire state. I led a comprehensive redesign of Indiana's child welfare policy, manual and information system, while also implementing new accountability measures to ensure family receives families receive the right services at the right time. These six years sharpened my ability to manage complex systems, but more importantly, they deepened my conviction that policy and practice must always be grounded in the lived experience of families. In 2011, I moved to Chicago to join the United States Department of Health and Human Services, their administration for children and families with first with the Children's Bureau, and then later as a regional administrator for the Office of Regional Operations at Children's Bureau, I was responsible for overseeing federally funded child welfare programs across six Midwestern states, monitoring over 1.4 billion in funding and partnering with state leaders to strengthen outcomes. In this critical role, I learned the importance of both accountability and flexibility, ensuring compliance, um, while also supporting innovation on the ground. As regional administrator, I represented the assistant secretary of a CF across region five that represented Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, and Wisconsin, and worked closely with 35 sovereign tribal nations. I was also asked to serve as acting regional administrator for regions three and seven. Region three is headquartered in Philadelphia and region seven is headquartered in Kansas City, Missouri. But I was, um, offered the opportunity to act as acting regional administrator, extending the reach to 12 additional states and 16 additional tribal nations. Across these roles, my work focused on advancing equity, promoting economic mobility, and improving child and family wellbeing. I had the privilege of convening state commissioners, national foundations, thought partners and tribal leaders to align priorities, break down silos, and pursue shared solutions to poverty, homelessness, and workforce challenges that affect families nationwide. Although my career has spanned state, regional and national levels, my 15 years here in Chicago has truly shaped me. And it is where I feel called to give back in the most direct and meaningful way. The Department of Family and support services is central to our city's vitality and prosperity from addressing homelessness and supporting survivors of domestic violence to caring for older adults and creating pathways for youth. DFSS is often the first line of response for some of our most vulnerable residents. But more importantly than just being a provider of programs, DFSS must be a trusted partner, an agency that listens, that meets people where they are, and that helps to restore dignity and hope. If confirmed, my priorities would be to build a stronger cross sector partnership because no single agency can meet these challenges alone to embed equity in every aspect of our service delivery, ensuring fair and consistent access for all communities to strengthen accountability so that resources are used effectively and residency tangible outcomes. And to position Chicago as a national model for innovation in human services, grounded in compassion and community voice. I am passionate about advancing youth employment, about economic mobility, about housing and homelessness, and about community safety. I am committed to working with DFSS to provide even more opportunities for young people to have, um, that have so much promise, to have opportunities for them to honor the legacy of our seniors, while ensuring that they have support and connection and resources that they need to provide a stable place to land for those returning from incarceration or those experiencing homelessness. And to collaborate with communities to expand safe spaces so they can flourish and not just survive. I step into this role with humility and with gratitude, but also with a sense of urgency, recognizing the fragility of federal resources and the potential impact of funding constraints on our programs. I'm entering this role with the experience of establishing diversified funding strategies, investing in people, and securing the expansion of our most effective services is vital. Families across our city are counting on us not only for services, but for leadership that is steady, that is responsive and deeply committed to their wellbeing. So I thank you for the opportunity to peer for you today, and I look forward to your questions and if confirmed to working alongside each of you to ensure every child, every family, and every community in Chicago has the support they need to thrive. Thank you, chairwoman. Thank you. Um, commissioner, I want to acknowledge Alman Raymond Lopez, who has also joined us in person. And I would like to start with a question. I really appreciate how proactive you have been reaching out and starting to ask about needs. Um, can you share with us a little bit of what your vision is to address, uh, the homelessness crisis that we have right now? Um, particularly in the face of federal funding cuts, um, and the attacks of the Trump administration towards our city. Thank you. Thank you for that question. Chairwoman. What is occurring right now is, is unprecedented and the, uh, the safety of our unhoused residents and neighbors is critical. Um, we are working tirelessly and it's not just our department. We're working with other partners, city, state, and county to ensure that we've expanded some of our bedrooms so that we can, um, bring those who are in danger, um, because of federal forces that may be coming into our city, have a place, um, to go for, for safety, we're also ensuring that we're getting out know your rights, um, information out to our delegates. Um, we even did a special, um, training for our youth that involve involved in our, our youth programs. We've done it with all of our shelters. We actually are meeting with them weekly to talk about this and make sure they know what to do and how to respond. Um, and the city has done an excellent job in terms of making sure we're all working together and sharing that information to protect Chicagoans. Can you talk a little bit about the work with shelters? I, we had, um, I showed up at the shelter on Foster that is bordering with my ward, and it was a really nerve wracking moment for a lot of people. They did end up taking two people from the street, not from the shelter. They were not allowed in. But can you talk a little bit about the protocols that are in place? We do have, um, we've made sure that we given all of our, um, delegates what our expectations are in terms of, um, protecting the, their residents. And it's not just shelters too, right? It's our senior centers. It's also because we're seeing it around there. Um, it's also our community centers. So we have a, a big array of folks who are on the ground in our city that are ensuring that they're, they're recognizing what the protocols are. So, um, for our staff, they know they're not supposed to let anyone in. We actually have a whole protocol for them. A whole stand that we send out, um, ensures that there, there are warrants that will allow them to come in. Um, we're not to give information about staff or about, um, individuals there. So our our city staff are aware of this. What we've done to our delegates is we ensure that they have the know your rights. They know, um, our facilities should be locked, so no one should be entering in and no one has, um, they've done it on the street as, as you are aware. Um, and then we're also making sure the mental health of our staff as well as our, our residents and our, our clients that we're serving that we're attending to that as well. Can you talk about how that is being done? The mental health component? Yep. Um, we are actually meeting with staff. We have our managers, we're talking to our managers and, um, and down that line to talk about, you know, how are you feeling? Um, we've had staff that asked to take off because it was just a little bit too much. It, this is a, a trying time. Um, so we are having those, um, mental health, if you will, attending to the mental health of our staff by having those conversations and being upfront with that and letting them voice where their concerns are and how we are ensuring that our staff are safe. Um, and then also for the residents. Um, it, we are all, I think we're all experienced this anxiety and this fear, and it should not be that way here in the city. And, and the mayor is trying his best to, um, ensure that we are, um, aware of what resources we have through law, um, that we could share with our delegates as well as our, our staff. But we are communicating with them. Yeah. Thank you. Do I have questions from Alman? Casada Being here. Um, I really appreciated our conversation the other day, um, where we were able to have very nuanced discussion around the different types of tactics and strategies that all of us in this body should be employing in our communities, um, to make sure that we are decriminalizing, um, poverty, um, and also making sure that we have a compassionate response to people who have been abandoned or who have fallen through the, the lack of a social safety net. Um, and because of the increasing crisis of wealth and income inequality in our city and across our nation. So I just wanted to commend you for your extremely, uh, qualified, nuanced, and compassionate perspective and experience. I think that you will be a great asset to our city. Um, clearly this conversation is extremely important because of the need that currently exists and unfortunately the, um, more than likely outcome of this administration's decisions on increasing, um, the vulnerability of poor and working class people. Um, so some of my questions that I would love to hear you, um, expand on is, I'm not sure if you're familiar, that the Trump administration recently cut service, um, some benefits for, uh, disabled people experiencing homelessness and the SOAR program, which is the supplemental se, uh, security income, social security, disability insurance, outreach, access and recovery program. Um, can you speak a little bit about, um, the nature of disabled people in our community who are experiencing homelessness and maybe some of the, um, strategies that you seek to employ to, to assist that community? Thank you. Thank you for that question, alderman. Um, one thing that is critical is that we are able to service all of our population that includes, um, those who, um, are non-English speaking, that includes those religious minorities that also includes our disabled community, um, and our LGBTQ plus community that we have services for them. Um, and we do, we actually have services that are, um, a DA compliant for our, our homeless, um, um, unhoused, uh, uh, residents. We, we have those even for our other specialized populations, um, and we're able to service them, uh, in, within our shelter system that we have currently. Got it. Um, I would also, uh, just want to point out too, that we are currently working on, um, we have a trans femicide working group, so a working group to address the murder and violence towards trans women. Um, I think that would be a really good conversation for you to have with the Department of Public Health, uh, because I think one of the, clearly a sector of that population also experiences, uh, housing, uh, ins, instability in security. So I think that would just be a really good conversation for you to have with, with commissioner over there. Thank you for that. Um, what do you think are some of the biggest needs for D Fs s currently and in the foreseeable future? Currently, um, in, there's a couple areas where I see that we need to expand. One is definitely in our, um, homelessness services in terms of shelter beds and housing stock. Um, we need to have more targeted, um, and concerted efforts around building that capacity. Um, also in our youth services area, we need to ensure that we are continuing to grow youth employment. I want to be a little more courageous and work on the corporate side of that and, and get some of our corporations involved in that component. Um, and the other area is in senior services, ensuring that, um, our home delivered meals for our seniors continue. Um, as we see, and this is a, a, a, a asset for the city, we have a number of seniors that are, um, growing older in our city and are still healthy and still have the ability to, um, you know, to, um, to prosper. And so we wanna make sure that we have our services for the older population, the growing population here in the city, and we wanna make sure those meals and nutrition meals and those are there as well. So those are three areas that are concern for me. Great. Um, and then, um, what are some of your plans or experience on working, uh, around state advocacy? Because clearly, um, you know, there are so many different, there are very limited levers that we have for revenue generation here in the city of Chicago. It's part of this discussion that we're having, uh, around our city budget. Clearly, my argument is that we need, uh, extreme, uh, forms of wealth redistribution here in the state of Illinois and across the United States. Uh, because we can't just tax poor and working class people, uh, to solve our problems. We need to make sure that we're asking the wealthiest corporations and individuals to pay their fair share so that we can build affordable housing so that we can make homelessness, uh, you know, a thing of the past, the relic of the past. Um, so we need help from the state. Mm-hmm. We can't do this alone. They can't do it alone. Um, what's some of your experience or some of your perspective around the state advocacy that that needs to be done? You know, that actually is what put me, brought me into social work. Um, I first started working in Boys and Girls Club and I saw some of the, um, disadvantages, uh, in terms of their ability to access services that should be made available. And so I wanted to start advocating. I started advocating with the advocacy group in Indianapolis and, um, lobbying our state legislator. So I have experience in that. Um, but um, I also have experience working from the state, understanding what funding revenues are there and what funding, um, opportunities are there that we are not capitalizing on yet. Right. And there's also some federal funding, um, that we haven't tapped into. I was, was quite excited when the job came to me. I was like, Ooh, there's, there's several pieces there are not connecting with. I see other revenue opportunities there. So I will be pursuing that after I get through this budget season. Um, but that is something I'm excited about, um, growing our portfolio and our revenue, our revenue funding stream, diversifying that not only with state, but with federal dollars and some nonprofit, um, some foundations as well. Great. Well, I, I would encourage you to continue to lean on this, uh, committee and, uh, this council on that state advocacy. Um, that's something that I definitely want to lend my hand to. Um, and the last thing I'll say is, you know, um, in my time working in public service, uh, in the 35th Ward, one of the things that I mentioned, I brought this up, uh, during our discussion, is actually an increase in, um, our Polish population, especially our senior Polish population, that have a fallen into homelessness, uh, because of loss of benefits, because of loss of jobs, or the, the changing local economy and landscape. And so I think that, uh, your point on and perspective and sensitivity towards our senior population is extremely necessary. And of course, with access, um, and the necessity for more beds and making the process simpler, um, ex an experience that I had, uh, over the past two and a half years was that my mother became homeless. Um, and trying to find her the adequate resource or something that where she felt dignified in was an extremely humiliating and a difficult process. And so, you know, imagine what it's like to be, well, at the time I was a sitting commissioner trying to find my own mom, you know, housing and shelter. I can't imagine what it's like for, uh, you know, a working class person or, you know, a family that is juggling multiple jobs and so many of the different responsibilities in their daily life, and they can't find the housing or shelter for their loved ones. So we need to make this simpler for people. Um, but of course, you know, we have to build shelters today, but we, we need to be building homes, uh, for people in the long run, um, so that we can get rid of these shelters because we don't need them any longer. So thank you again for your service, and I look forward to working with you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Derman ca next I have other woman, Haden. Thank you, chair. Um, uh, Angela. Hi. Welcome. Thank you. I know, I know we got to, to chat, um, a little bit this morning. Um, and commiserate on this practice. We're gonna change, right? Of the timing of new commissioners and putting them through, uh, all the most difficult times. We're gonna be, we're gonna be gentle with you on budget. Um, um, I just wanna, you know, echo, um, my colleague, um, Alder tis comments on just how lucky we are here in the city of Chicago to have someone as accomplished and experienced as you here continuing your service. So, thank you. Um, you know, we couldn't be in more challenging times. And so it's, it's heartening to still have, you know, the best and brightest, like, you know, joining up and helping us, um, because we're, you know, we are older people. Yeah. Um, we do our part, but we really need, um, uh, you know, exceptional people like yourself in these, uh, commissioner positions to help lead your departments. Um, you are fortunate to have a very capable team. Um, hello, DFSS friends. Um, so I just wanna say thank you, thank you. I know we've talked, uh, about a few things. Um, what I'll say just on the record is, um, you know, we are all here for the residents of our city. And I know that sometimes there are, um, traditions, uh, things embedded within the city about, you know, information and how comfortable department heads are in being frank, uh, or, uh, direct and sharing things with council. And, you know, you, you, uh, have been, uh, appointed by the mayor, but you are also approved by council. Um, and we do have a mayor who has been, uh, very big on co-governance and transparency. So that's all to say is just like, please let us know and be as direct as possible on the impacts on our services. Um, so we are in, we're in very different times. We know a lot of the federal, um, changes, particularly around our budget, are creating, um, just challenges that we have never before encountered. And it can sometimes take multiple exposures to that information for people to understand what that impact means. And so, hit us over the head if you need to, but please help us really fully understand what the impact is so that we can make our best informed decisions, um, as we operate in this body, to think about what difficult decisions we're gonna need and what services that we need to preserve and work on. So that's my big request of you. Um, you know, give it to a straight, um, don't gloss over it, because I think too often, even for us, um, we are used to, you know, things functioning, oh, we've got this and we've got this regular, we are in times where, um, you know, our cities around the country are being sabotaged. Um, and, um, with our minds on a lot of different things, um, right. We are multitasking to the extreme. Like I take pride in being a really good multitasker, but it's breaking my brain a little bit. And so, again, um, even if you have, have, have mentioned it, even if it ends up in like an email somewhere, like when it comes down to it, if you are not seeing kind of the, uh, um, expected response or reaction, or you're not hearing from us in, in response to information that you're sharing, um, just again, like, get our attention, excellent. Help us, make us understand. Um, 'cause I think we're gonna need that, especially through this budget season. Excellent. I will. Thank you. T women had, and, and one thing I'll just say is there are a couple things that I am looking at, um, to ensure that I'm ahead of the game of, if we may have some, um, budgetary issues in terms of federal funds, um, especially around Head Start is an area that I'm concerned about. 'cause 68% of our funding is coming from outside sources, not from corporate, right? So that's a, almost 70% of our funds are coming from either federal state, and I think it's about 40 or 50% of that, of that 68 is from federal funds. So that's a large proportion of our money. Um, so the area I'm really looking at is that personal responsibility of work, reconciliation, ra, how they're defining federal benefit. That's gonna be critical. If they change that definition of that, then that will impact homeless services. That will impact, um, head Start that would impact several of our programs. Um, so it, I'm staying ahead right now. I think 2026, we might be okay. Uh, 2027. If they change that, we might see some differences. Thank You. And thank you Madam Chair. Thank You. Other woman. Haden, do I have any other comments or questions for the commissioner? Other woman? Hello again. It's so great to see you. Thank you for your team for coming. I, I just want to send my appreciation to, to you or coming to the 48th Ward, and please see us as partners. Anything that you would like to creatively try, we know that, that we need to think outside of the box right now. Uh, we see what's happening at the federal level and also all the good that's we're doing at the local levels. Um, and, and thank you for your team for meeting up with us in, in Rogers Park to tour facilities that are really trauma informed and designed. Uh, we need that right now. Um, and I just wanted to commend you for stepping up. We need leadership right now, like you and I, and I can't wait to, to work with you more. So appreciate. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you. I appreciate, um, the compliment, but I'll tell you, when I walk into DFSS, I walked into a team that is phenomenal. They have the heart for this work at every level. Um, and I'm so excited to be able to partner with them and lead with them. Thank you. Elder Women and Commissioner. Um, we really want to collaborate. A lot of the members of this committee are doing a lot of work in their communities. We want to be able to partner up and we want to be able to have the hard conversations about what is needed and how we we can support. Um, so please feel free to always come to us to collaborate. If I don't have any more comments or questions, can I get a motion to approve item A 2 25 0 0 1 9 8 5 6. So moved by other person, Ava. All those in favor signify by saying Aye. Opposed, say nay in the opinion of chair. The ayes have it. I will report this due pass recommendation at the upcoming city council meeting. Thank you, commissioner. And thank you to the team for coming, uh, for coming a meeting with us this morning. Our next matter for today is R 20 24 0 0 1, 1 0 0 7, introduced by Alderman Hopkins, calling for an expression of support for the federal government to pass the American Center for Cures legislation. We will be speaking about this in a couple of minutes. This next item is calling for an expression of support for the federal government to pass the American Center for Cures legislation. We have, um, alderman Hopkins, who has introduced, um, this resolution. Alderman, would you like to offer some remarks and introduce your guest? Yes. Thank you, chairwoman. I really appreciate the opportunity to, uh, hear this important matter. Before your committee, uh, would like to introduce, uh, an invited guest, uh, who will be sharing his expert witness testimony on this subject matter. Uh, first I do wanna point out, um, somewhat of a typo on the agenda. Uh, the agenda, uh, for this resolution calls for the matter to be, uh, referred for support for President Biden. Uh, obviously President Biden is not the president as we have this meeting today. Uh, when we introduced it, of course, he, he was, uh, the, the president. But, uh, I think it's important to note that this resolution was born in a spirit of bipartisanship, and it will be advancing in a spirit of bipartisanship. As we talked about before the meeting. If there's any issue that unites people across all spectrums of the political divide, uh, it is our health. Uh, you know, health does not recognize race, class, creed, or political party. Uh, and we all know people who have been, uh, struck by some of the diseases that the American Center for Cures will be focused on. Uh, so it is the universal unifying human experience, um, to focus on health and wellness and to call upon the resources of government, uh, to focus on finding cures, not just treatments, but cures. And our, uh, invited guest will, uh, will touch on that. Mr. Lou Wespac, who, uh, I'm pleased to introduce, is a name familiar to many Chicagoans. Uh, he successfully led a very prominent Chicago company, halo Industries, uh, for 27 years, which he founded and led as the CEO of that institution. Um, he is one of the co-founders of the American Center for Cures. Um, he's a senior executive with the Cancer Treatment Centers of America. And his focus there at the Cancer Treatment Center was not on treatment again, it was on prevention of cancer. And believe it or not, cure of cancer. We've been talking about curing cancer for so long that people have, uh, lost fate that it would ever happen. Um, but I would suggest that the people who are involved in this research know better than us. They're closer to a cure than they ever have been. Now is the time to focus on curing diseases like cancer, like diabetes and others. Mr. Weisbach is bringing leadership that he has brought to bear for his decades of service in, in government. Uh, he was appointed as chairman of the Jefferson Trust by President Clinton. He also served as a judge for the White House Fellowship program under President Trump, again, showing a, a bipartisan ability, uh, to cross, uh, partisan lines. Uh, he was chairman of the Giving Back Fund, uh, which is a philanthropic organization that focuses on providing, um, means for professional athletes to be able to give back to the communities that they're from, uh, to donate to charitable causes of all, uh, stripes and sizes. Um, and he succeeded famous sports broadcaster, Bob Costas in, in that role. Um, so the success that he's had in industry and government and, and in public health, uh, have now qualified him, uh, to co-found this institution, uh, which is before the federal government right now. And the matter before us as a City Council, um, is to support those efforts, uh, to provide $127 billion of funding research that could actually cure diseases. Uh, and again, we are, we are closer to some of these cures than, uh, than people realize. Um, and I will, uh, allow him to talk in a little bit more detail about, uh, the genesis for this organization, uh, and where they stand today. Please welcome Mr. Lou Weisberg. Thank you. And, uh, thank you all for having me here today. Uh, I'm just gonna give you a brief outline of what we're doing, and because I'd like to make sure that there's time for questions and answers, uh, to all of the older people here, to also the people in the audience. Uh, I don't know a lot of you, but what I will tell you is, is that in the last 15 to 20 years, everybody in the audience here, ev every person who's sitting in front of us has watched somebody die or suffer from a disease that probably doesn't even need to exist anymore. And the easiest way to understand that is, is that if we don't cure or prevent any disease in the next 20 years, there is not one person that will lose their job. Think about that for one second. That's not how things get done. Uh, we have a systemic problem relative to prevention and cure. And the American Center for Cures concept was born out of taking a blank sheet of paper and saying, if the only thing we were committed to doing was to prevent disease and or cure disease, how would we go about it? And we realized that none of the none underlined, none of the things that we do today would be part of that process. And so we said, well, let's talk about this. What does any successful venture need to, to actually occur? So let's take us back 35 or 40 years, and let's talk about the people at Apple. And I see a lot of you with your Apple phones as as I'm talking. Uh, if I said to you 35 years ago that you would have all the information at your fingertips that you have right now, you'd be doing exactly what a lot of you are doing right now, uh, you would've said, that's an impossibility. You're talking about more information that is on cumulatively all the supercomputers in the world right now. And yet, because of the fact that Apple had the five pillars of success that you need to do things successfully, you now have an Apple phone and you aren't using a rotary phone all the time. And what are those five pillars there? Nothing gets done without enough money. And I hear this group talking today about cats and, and dogs and about the need for money. Without enough money, nothing gets accomplished. Without the right leadership, seasoned leadership that's proven they can get things done. Nothing gets accomplished without the right business plan. Nothing gets done without a accountability, nothing gets done and without a sense of urgency. So when you look historically at what's happened in the world of cures, none of these elements have been in place. And the American Center for Cures seeks to make that happen. We are talking about setting up 16 separate units, 14 units that are built around 14 separate diseases, including Alzheimer's, including Parkinson's, including diabetes, including brain cancer, pancreatic cancer, mental illness, heart disease. And each of these groups will have $36 billion, and we'll have a six year plan to prevent or cure each of those diseases. We will be hiring the top business leaders in America who have proven that they have the ability to get the job done, taking the most difficult tasks as only business leaders know how to do, and crossing the finish line. Uh, the 15th unit will be what we call the catchall, a unit that deals, uh, one of the alderman said to me, talked to me today about HIV that deals with all the other diseases that are out there and will have $108 billion budget. And the 16th unit will be all AI and data. And what, what the American Center for Cures brings to all of you is the hope and the understanding that we're going to put together in one place exactly what historically has been needed to succeed and cross the finish line. The other thing that's particularly interesting today in the divided city that we're in right now, the divided country we're in right now, is the, is cures and disease are a hundred percent issue. So everybody in the audience here, everybody, every one of you, uh, older people as well, uh, have the same issue. And it doesn't matter what your ethnicity is, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, a Democrat or Republican makes no difference. Disease strikes people equally. Doesn't matter if you're living on the streets to the last speaker that was out here. And we're gonna end that. And, and we've built this in a way that this will work for everybody. This will not be something that will only be accessible to wealthy people. This will be something that will be accessible to every American, regardless of how much money they have. And the proof of the matter is, is that if you look at Steve Jobs or you look at somebody who is living on the street, uh, we've done a lousy job in this country relative to having the system in place to be able to cure people and prevent people from getting sick. Well, that ends now. And the interesting thing is, from my perspective as being a lifelong Chicagoan, is Chicago has the ability to provide leadership on this issue and to show America that we can work together. And again, the fact that this is a hundred percent issue, it's the exact same for Democrats and Republicans, same for everybody. Regardless of how much money you have, uh, we have an opportunity as a city and you as a city council and as a committee to get the job done, do this in a very public and national way, get the media to understand the opportunity and get the, the community to understand that Chicago is working for all people and is visionary once again. So with that, um, I'll be happy to answer any questions that any of you might have. Oh, I, I did want to say one, one last thing. The, the economic process here is, is that we would, the bill that we're gonna, the bipartisan bill that we're going to have in Congress is gonna call for the treasury to sell $750 billion worth of bonds to fund this, which, and the government will be responsible annually for interest only. So in year one, we're talking about $6 billion in year two $12 billion. And understand this, if we were only to, we're gonna do a lot better than this, but if we were only to cure diabetes, that would save the federal coffer $750 billion a year and growing. So just understand that this makes sense economically. It makes sense for every person in this room, every American, again, regardless of gender. And so we're excited about it. We, I've done a lot of national interview shows lately. At the end of every interview, people all say the same thing. They simply say, there's no holes in this story. It's something we should have done 25 years ago. Unfortunately we didn't. But now is the time, and especially because of ai, to be able to put the pieces together in a businesslike methodology, which the American Center for Gus provides. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you for that statement. Um, I do have some questions. It seems like we're trying to provide, um, care and research in order to prevent and cure disease, but we are facing an administration that is completely dismantling everything that would help people, um, and has a Secretary of Health that doesn't believe in the methods that we have been using to cure this C So how does this fit with the President's agenda, and why do we think that this is going to go anywhere under Trump's? That's presidency's A that thank you. And, and that's a great question. And the answer is, is actually very interesting. So we've been working on this for a very long time. When President Trump cut research funding, all of a sudden the entire research community in America, uh, became destabilized. And we're saying, where are we gonna get money? How are we gonna continue our work? But it made them understand that their work has not served us well. Their work hasn't been coordinated. Their, it hasn't worked out. We haven't, we, we cured polio 65, 70 years ago. Think about how often you have watched on television on A, B, C, on NBC, on CBS, how close we are to the cure for something. The cures don't come, the cures don't come. 'cause the system doesn't work. So what interestingly happened, and I'm not saying that the President meant for this to happen, but by cutting research funding, he made the, the entire industry, including the researchers, realize that there had to be accountability. There had to be a new system, there had to be change. So actually, his actions have put us in a remarkable place. I spoke at ASCO in Chicago, 40,000 people at the event, and people were lined up to meet me to talk about the American Center for Cures, understanding that this is the future, thinking out of the box and doing things in a different way, especially in a, when things didn't work. And this president, uh, and I understand a lot of the feelings in this room about this president, but this president has certain skill sets that he does bring to the table regardless of his motivations. And I, I'm not gonna go into that conversation and make this political, but he, he is able to get things done and able to try things that have never been done before. And he looks at things from a much more business-like perspective. So I happen to think, and again, I've lived with this for many years and I've met with every president in the last 25 years about this. This is a president who actually affords us the opportunity to get this done because he's willing to cross lines. And I under, I understand your point. Uh, but that's the, that's actually the business reality of this. He is, we believe, and I've the Secretary of Health under Donald Trump in his first administration, said that he believes the American Center for Cures is going to be the greatest thing that's ever happened in the history of America. That's the Secretary of Health under Donald Trump in his first administration. So I understand how many of you feel that this is the last guy that would do something like this? I would actually say the polar opposite. And I doesn't make me a fan. It makes me a realistic business person to say that this guy happens to look at the world in a different way. And I think he's the first guy that would ever do something like this. Um, you were talking about the Center for Cures as a business model. Can you like explain that a little further? Because we are incredibly concerned with the dismantling of public institutions. Public institutions that have been around for a very long time. When you say that it was not working, there is a lot of research that has actually been developed, and we have advanced a lot in things like HIV for example. There, there is a lot of progress that has been made that now is being threatened by all of these cuts. And what you're saying is that this project will come to save all of this. And I am very confused about how this is going to address those needs. I fundamentally don't think that public health should be a business, unfortunately, under capitalism it is. So, and it ends up with leaving people out of the possibility of getting and accessing care and resources. So I, I would like for you to explain to me how this business model, like structure is going to solve a problem that is being exacerbated by the dismantling of all these public institutions. So first thing is it's not a business, it's a businesslike process. It's saying that if I ran a public company and I had accountability to my shareholders, and we had 5,200 employees, I had accountability to all of them. And so I had to run this business with them in mind and making sure that they were taken care of properly. The in, in the world of healthcare and the world of, uh, preventing disease and curing disease, we, we don't run that in a businesslike way. It's done. Because unfortunately, in our government right now, and this is not a Republican thing or a Democratic thing, um, people in power, people with money are able to go and give money to people in Congress and get things that they want. Not things that are necessarily good for you and your family and me and my family, but things that are good for their business. So we've constructed this in a way where it's not a business, but it's businesslike. It's in the private sector. It's not a government agency. It's saying, if we are only thing we wanted to do was prevent or cure people from getting sick, and we had a blank sheet of paper, how would we go about that? And that's all we've done is we've said, this is how much money you would need. This is, how would you feel if the CEO of Apple had $36 billion and his only job was to end Parkinson's and could do it any way he wanted to? Would you feel comfortable that that's a better process and a better system than what we have today? Today? There's nobody responsible. I met with the head of the NIH for two hours now, that's a government funded agency, and they do a lot of great work. The head of the NIH said, you're a hundred percent right. This is absolutely, there's no debate on whether we should be doing something like this. There's no debate about the process. The issue is, is getting public support and a city support like we're doing today, and getting the public to understand the opportunity. If you're sick and tired of dealing with diseases that don't need to exist anymore and wanna change the system and be open-minded to doing it in a way that will change things for you and your family. The American Center for Cures is something that you should stand out and speak about and petition government to get done. So I understand your reservations about the administration, but what I'm saying to you is, and I worked in the Clinton administration and I was involved in all the other administrations. We haven't gotten the job done when it comes to healthcare. We just haven't. And when it comes to cures, just think of where we should be relative to all the money we've spent on research relative to all of the AI that we have now, all the abilities that we have. But it's nobody's job to cure anything. All the money is in prevention. So the people making money are not trying to cure your disease. They are focused on making money by, uh, in the way that they like. Yeah, I'm, I'm pretty aware how the, how this work. Yeah. But thank you. Sure. Um, do I have any questions for our guest? Any questions, comments about this? No. So we can move on to vote. All right. No, no. You, you can't ask questions. I'm, I'm asking my colleagues if they have questions, but thank you. Um, okay. If they are not questions or comments for from the committee members, can I get a motion to approve Item R 20 24 0 0 1, 1 0 0 7. Do I have a motion to move this item? I have never not had Other Manhattan. So, moves all in favor of accepting this item. Respond by saying, aye. I oppose, say nay in the opinion of the chair. The nays have, um, this item did not pass and won't be recommended. Recommended at the upcoming city council meeting. Thank you for being here. Thank you for submitting the item. Um, I'm gonna move to the next item. Next. On the agenda, I have item R 2 25, 0 0 1, 8, 6, 7 7, introduced by other women Fuentes, calling for hearings on strengthening animal welfare services and community engagement in Chicago. We have several guests here with us today for the associated subject matter hearing. I request we hold remarks and questions related to this item until after presentations. Um, can I get a motion to approve? Item R 20 25 0 0 1, 8, 6, 7, 7. Um, other person move. Uh, the item is on the floor. Do I have C, c, C here? Okay. I have a motion to approve. Item R 20 25, 0 1, 8, 6, 7, 7. Other person hadn't. So move. Uh, all those in favor of approving this item signify by saying, aye. Opposed say nay in the opinion of the chair. The aye. Have it. And we are going to move on with our subject matter hearing. Are we ready? Okay. Um, thank you Director, Sue, your team and our guests and members of the public for joining us today for this important conversation. Um, I want to pass it on to other woman Fuentes first to offer some remarks and explain, um, how this hearing came to be. Um, we are very happy to be having this conversation. We know that this is a really important conversation and we also know that we are juggling a lot of things in our city right now, that everything is an emergency, that we have a lot of people to take care of right now. Um, and we also understand that this has to be a conversation that we need to have and that we need to prioritize. So, um, other women, Fuentes. Thank you, chairwoman. Uh, first I wanna preface that obviously there's a lot happening in the city right now, and so I wanna thank my colleagues for being here in a moment where there is so much happening in your neighborhoods. Uh, the conversation around animal and ca care and control is an important one, uh, both on the side of the department that has articulated over and over again the needs that they have to the advocates to labor. I think that this is a time that we can have these conversations, ask the critical questions, and then develop a plan on how we move our city forward as it relates to animal care and control. And so I just wanna preface that while it may be difficult right now to, to isolate this conversation in a global context, uh, I do believe that it's important to be here. So I wanna thank the department for their preparation, their partnership, their willingness to come here for the subject matter hearing. I wanna thank our advocates who have brought us to this point to ensure that we can have the discussion, and so many of them are here in the audience. Uh, I believe this could be a fruitful conversation and one that's productive. Uh, I do want to always preface it. Uh, when we have hard conversations, it's important for us to remain respectful. I know that we may hear things that we may not like, but I think in a very, uh, appropriate, polite and respectful discourse, we can move our work forward. Uh, and I'm hoping that this is the beginning of many conversations as it relates to how we move animal care and control forward. So thank you all for being here. I look forward forward to the questions and, uh, how we wrap up this hearing. Thank you, chairwoman, for entertaining this item. Thank you. Um, other woman Fuentes. And I also want to show my appreciation to, uh, my director of policy, Jonathan n and, um, other persons Fuentes, uh, staffer Marie. Um, they did a lot of work to get us here today and to engage with community, and, and that's a very important part of this process. So thank you very much, Jonathan. Um, director Sue. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you for having us here today. So I'm just gonna do a quick introduction. My name is Susan Capello and I'm the acting Executive Director with Chicago Animal Care and Control. Um, with me at the dais, I have Armando Tejeda, our executive administrative Assistant and Public Information Officer for the Department. In the box, I have Angela Rayburn, our operations manager, Arthur Hamilton, our shelter manager, Chloe Snowden Morgan, our human resources business partner, and three of our other partners with us. I have, uh, Celine Rack from Paw Chicago, sorry, Jamie White from Friends of Animal Care and Control, and one of our volunteers. And then Mama Deia from Cook County Animal and Rabies Control with us today. And thank you so much for having us. Um, okay. So good afternoon and thank you again for the opportunity to present an overview of Chicago Animal Care and Control. CACC protects public safety and ensures the humane care of animals through sheltering placement, education and law enforcement. We're Chicago's only municipal shelter taking in every animal that comes through our doors. And so far this year, we've taken over 14,800 animals. Oh, Is my presentation supposed to be up There? Tell me what to do. Got it. Okay. Yay. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So our mission is to protect both people and animals across the city of Chicago. We uphold the city's commitment to compassionate, equitable, and accessible animal care services. And just as important, we work every day to strengthen relationships with collaborative community partners, constructive advocates, and caring residents to improve outcomes for animals and engage the public. Our objectives are simple but broad. Protect public safety, ensure humane care, and provide sheltering placement, education and animal law enforcement. Every one of those elements connects directly to public service, not just for animals, but for people and neighborhoods across the city. Our leadership team is presented here, again, myself as the acting executive director, Armando as our PIO, Angela as our operations manager, and our as our shelter manager, and Chloe as our human resources business partner. It's a small but but dedicated group supported by dozens of staff across four divisions. CC'S work is grounded in several sections of the municipal Code two dash 16, which formally establishes our department and executive authority two dash one 20, which outlines our commission, and its nine members, four dash 3 84 relating to animal related businesses. And seven dash 12, which defines animal control, impoundment, and care standards. These codes give us the legal structure to operate safely and effectively citywide. The last two years have been busy in 2024, pause, Chicago help perform 931 Spain neuter surgeries. And two Homeward bound partners also stepped up to assist with more of those. By 2025, we introduced Chicago's first 24 hour outdoor microchip scanning station. Verified that all 22 police districts have microchip scanners launched youth programming with Safe Humane Chicago and the Alternative Schools Network hosted our first content for a cause influencer event. And we saw the highest number of corporate volunteer days ever recorded at Chicago Animal Care and Control. Additionally, P Chicago held a massive Spain neuter day or surgery day by transporting dogs and cats to the Lurry Clinic and performing 130 spay neuter surgeries all in one day for us through September, over 14,800 animals have entered the shelter. This is the highest intake since 2013. Our live income out, sorry. Our live outcome rate for, for cats and dogs stands at 85.5%. That includes 2,652 adoptions. 816 return to owners, 7,195 transfers to rescue partners and transfers remain one of our most impactful programs. 1,720 euthanasias were performed due to medical, behavioral, or space limitation. Still a reduction relative to our intake volume. Approximately 70% of the animals entering CACC are brought directly by the public. 19% of the animals that come in are from our field services and the remaining 11% from the Chicago Police Department. That balance shows how much residents actively rely on us and why. Our 3 1 1 and field response teams are critical. Every single number here represents coordination between staff, volunteers, and our partners. Our field services division receives an average of 129 calls per day, focusing on injured animals, aggressive strays, and assisting other agencies. CACC is on track to receive approximately 45,000 requests for service in 2025. This work protects both people and animals under difficult conditions. All of our service requests come through 3 1 1. And accuracy. Accuracy matters. Residents should confirm addresses, shared descriptions, and follow up if situations change. This process allows our officers to respond efficiently and safely. Please visit our website for detailed information about each and every service request that we have for wildlife. We follow Illinois Law and partner with Flint Creek Wildlife for relocation, for humane relocation when necessary. Three key tips for wildlife issues. And I know you all get the calls on 'em. Eliminate the food source. So secure your garbage cans and clean up pet excrement haze. Make noise outside. When that animal's coming near you, it's going to go away. And then keep weeds and brush maintained. So critters have nowhere to hide. So did you know, just as important. Um, this slide reminds us, reminds the public that we don't handle deceased animals on the streets, uh, pigeons, bees, beehives, and rats. Those calls go through Streets and Sanitation or other departments. So inside the shelter programs are the heart of what we do. The volunteer program established by Union Agreement supports adoptions and enrichment. A doggy day out program helps long-term dogs decompress. Diversion efforts, help families keep their pets. That's where we want them. And finding your Lost Pet program, reunites those lost pets with those owners who are looking for them. Our volunteers complete an information session, fingerprinting and structured training before handling the animals. Their work ranges from enrichment and adoptions to humane education and clerical support. They're truly an extension of our staff and mission, and we can't do any of our work without our volunteers. Our Homeward Brown, our Homeward Bound network includes over 100 rescue partners and transferred seven thousand nine hundred seven thousand one hundred ninety five animals so far this year. That collaboration remains one of the strongest success drivers for live outcomes. Our partnerships extend beyond rescues. Friends of Chicago Animal Care and Control remains our strongest fundraising arm covering expenses, city funding cannot. City funding cannot cover, and has spent over $1 million in the after hours care medical program. Cook County, an animal and Rabies control co-hosts our Vaccine clinics tenants so far this year, serving 944 pets with two more to go. Cook County also covers training and other resources for our department. P Chicago invested over $1.3 million through the 360 at CACC program to date, expanding adoption supporting rescue partners and helping 123 families keep their pets in their homes. There's that, that, Um, diversion isn't new. It's evolved since 2014. From the original pause outreach to CRISP and now to the 360 at CACC model. This continuum of support, uh, keeps more pets in homes and out of shelters. In alignment with our racial equity plan, we expanded outreach in priority community areas. The Chicago Animal Care and Control onsite pet supply unit increased public interactions by 900%, keeping families and pets together. Chicago Animal Care and Control operates on a $7.52 million budget with 73 full-time and 10 part-time employees across four divisions. Our facility is staffed from 7:00 AM to 7:30 PM daily Field staff operates citywide seven days a week, and the public has adoption access, noon to seven, and animal intake from three to seven daily. These structured schedules help us reduce overtime by 36% this year. So, looking ahead, our priorities are expanding access to spay neuter and affordable vet care, keeping pets in homes through community support programs, preventing misinformation by using official CACC data and calling on all of our partners to prioritize local transfers for Chicago animals and keep space open for those who need us the most. So in summary, Chicago Animal Care and Control is moving forward. Through efficiency partnerships and innovation, we've strengthened operations and improved outcomes. Our mission remains focused on protecting public safety and ensuring humane care for every animal. With continued collaboration and support, we will keep making progress for both the people and pets of Chicago. Thank you very much. Thank you, director. Um, I'm going to pass it to other woman Fuentes, uh, to introduce your guest, Jennifer. Yeah, I I can do it. So if we have Jennifer give testimony, it's, uh, relates to a lot of the volunteer work and some of the programming that we see at Animal Care and Control. Um, thank you for all of the prep, uh, that you have done with our team, uh, to be here. So we'll pass over the presentation over to you. Okay. Thank you so much. Good morning everybody. My name is Jenny Schlater and I've lived in Humboldt Park in the 26 ward since 2006. I've worked in Chicago Animal Welfare for over 20 years 'cause I started young and as a volunteer staff member and partner with Chicago Animal Care and Control, I now lead Heartland Animal Shelter. And I'm proud that since I started three years ago, we've been among CCCs top five transfer partners. CAC C'S success has always mattered deeply to me before, during, and after my time there. And I believe it matters to everyone in this room as well. Before I begin, I wanna thank Alder Fuentes and Rodriguez Sanchez, as well as Vero Ro Mercado, Maurice Snyder, and Jonathan Nge for this opportunity. And thanks to my colleagues in the fun CACC working group, Paige Cassidy, Julie Darling, Jonathan Davis, RAA GIAs, Jeff Jenkins and Heather Owen for shining light on our city shelter. I also wanna thank all of you and the audience for some really thoughtful comments today. And of course to my friends here at CACC, Sue Capella, Angela Rayburn, Armando Tejera, art Hamilton, and some, some other new friends. Finally, I know there's a lot going on in Chicago right now. I'll echo what others have said. And I just wanna thank you all for taking the time to talk about CACC. 'cause I know that you know that caring for pets is caring for people as well. So, before I get into what's going on today, I thought it was important to talk a little bit about the history and some of the progress that C-A-C-C-A-C-C has made. CACC has come a long way, and it's worth remembering how far during my time there, I saw the shelter handled just about every kind of animal imaginable. Pigs, goats, snakes, Guinea pigs, wildlife monkeys, even alligators, you name it. And I'm sure you all remember our beloved chance, the Snapper and plenty of roosters too. One named Luis still lives in my backyard and joined my dog. And five Cat alumni from CACC. And that's who we're gonna talk about today, are the dogs and the cats. In 1997, CACC took in over 28,000 animals, and more than 26,000 of those animals were euthanized that year. The live release rate was 7%. By 2016, when I joined the management team intake had dropped to around 14,000, and the live release rate had jumped to 78%, which is an extraordinary turnaround between 2016 and 2020. We worked hard to hit that final 90% no kill benchmark. And we used to joke that it was the last 10 pounds that was the hardest to lose. We launched fee waved adoptions and redemptions. We expanded stray return to field. We created Doggy Day out where anyone could take a dog out for a walk and give them a break, and they always came back happy and tired. We built enrichment programs, Frisbee Fridays for dogs and wine cork Wednesdays for cats, and a little nursery for neonatal kittens. We shifted to open adoption, reducing barriers, and giving more Chicagoans the opportunity to adopt from their city shelter. And we built life-changing partnerships with West Side Health Authority and Ready Chicago to name a few, which gave young men job opportunities caring for animals. And working with Ready. The Ready Guys is still one of the most rewarding experiences of my life. Uh, we also worked really hard to increase transparency. Uh, as I just mentioned, we created CCCs first official social media accounts. We see we sought out media opportunities and we promoted adoptions and other services across the city on the city's digital media network. Alongside friends of CACC, paw Chicago, the Chicagoland Rescue Intervention and Support Program, safe Humane Chicago, and hundreds of other rescue partners. Together, we achieve no kill status every year between 2018 and 2021, saving over 90% of the animals who came through the doors. Of course, when the pandemic hit, CACC saw a drastic decrease in intake. I'll never forget walking into the shelter one day and there were only about 30 animals left. And it was surreal. Um, I I I was brought to tears and I felt like our dreams had finally come true. And then the reality hit as the world started to open up again. People went back to work in school, evictions resumed, which was a huge part of our intake at that time. And the intake numbers started to shoot back up by 2024. CACC took in 13,900 dogs and cats in just the first eight months of 2025. They're already at 11,200, about 50 animals a day. If that trend continues, CACC will exceed 16,000 intakes the highest in more than a decade. As Director Capella just mentioned, um, it wasn't easy, but we had shed those last 10 pounds and now we're fighting not to gain them back. So where do things stand now? CAC is facing rising intake, overstretched medical capacity, and too few staff to keep up when that happens. Euthanasia rises. So does burnout for staff, volunteers, and rescue partners of more than 5,000 stray dogs entering last year. Only 19% return home down from 29% in 2019. If we had simply matched that earlier rate, 500 more dogs could have gone home instead of staying in the shelter. Adoptions are strong by historical standards, about 22% of outcomes. And I know that doesn't seem like much, but it it used to be fewer and they're working really hard, but we know the demand is much higher. Many Chicagoans want to adopt from CACC, but they simply can't because the animals aren't ready or there's no staff available to help them. So how does this look nationally across the us most shelters saw intake rise after COVID, just like CACC did. But now many have stabilized or even improved a bit. National intake is down about 4% so far this year, and euthanasia is starting to trend down too. Other cities are investing in their departments to stay ahead. New York City added $1 million this summer to relieve overcrowding in their shelters. Indianapolis, Phoenix, Los Angeles, and Tampa report adoption rates between 40 and 70%, which are double or triple of CCCs and Tucson's. Pima Animal Care Center has cut cat euthanasia by 10% through community cap program programming, which has always been a passion of mine and something that we worked really hard on getting partners, you know, over the last 10 years. But we really need CACC to be able to do that more proactively for it to really work. So CAC is struggling, and that's not because of effort or commitment. It's because we're asking people to do too much with too little. So let's talk a little bit more about these challenges. Chicago funds, its animal control system at the lowest level of any major US city. In 2023, CAC C'S budget was 7.17 million. Compare that to $30 million in New York City, or 11.5 million in Tampa or Hillsborough County, which took in a similar number of animals. Staffing is dangerously thin, as many have remarked already. But, uh, one comparison I wanna make is in the medical department. Uh, last I knew CACC had one certified vet tech, five assistants and three vets. And don't forget, it's not just for dogs and cats, it's for every species. And by comparison, at Heartland, we have two part-time vets and three medical assistants for an intake of about 1500 animals a year. That's one 10th of CCCs volume. With current staffing, animals wait longer for care, get sicker, stay longer, and are adopted less often. It's that simple. So what would success look like? Imagine what's possible with proper funding. CACC could be a community hub for animal care, youth jobs, volunteer engagement and family support. It could be a point of pride and not crisis. Success looks like this. Healthier animals and shorter shelter stays a 30% return to owner rate or higher. A 40 to 60% adoption rate matching our peer cities clean, welcoming facilities and faster service, stronger partnerships and less burnout. We've already proven that we can do it. We just need the resources to sustain it. So what would help? Here are the key investments that I think would make the biggest difference. More medical staff vets, vet techs, foster coordinators to stave lives and speed up adoptions. How about a volunteer coordinator? So people who want to help can actually do so. Dedicated adoption staff to connect more pets with families, faster expanded field operations, more officers returning lost pets directly to their owners and pet owner support, low cost vaccines, spay neuter, food and training. So families don't have to surrender their pets in the first place. And I know a lot of the things are happening, but there aren't enough resources to do them at the level needed to be sustainable. One thing that I think we could explore is that there are corporations in Chicago, they're home to so many Fortune 500 companies, McDonald's, Kraft, Heinz, United, AbbVie, Exelon. Imagine what could happen if each helped sponsor medical care adoption events or outreach programs. So the question is, how do we do this? I wanted to, to suggest a couple of easy things, couple of harder things, but they're all important. So let's start with things that I think are simple. We could make volunteer onboarding easier right now. People have to get fingerprinted downtown during business hours. That's a barrier. And we're turning away help that we desperately need. How about we explore redirecting rabies tag revenue from Cook County, much of which comes from city residents. And what if some of that revenue could support CACC? I already talked to Mamadou in the elevator about this this morning, so we'll see. And the big ones, what if we could increase CAC C'S budget and authorize new positions to hire more medical adoption, foster and outreach staff? And what if we leverage more partnerships with nonprofits and corporations to stretch every dollar further? So what do we do next? CACC has shown what's possible. We've already reached no kill. We built programs that worked. We inspired volunteers and partners and it wasn't easy. But now the system is overwhelmed and without additional investment, we risk losing the progress we fought so hard for. Not from lack of will, but lack of resources. Chicago is a world class city. As Mayor Johnson likes to stay, it's the best freaking city in the world. Let's make our shelter the best freaking shelter in the world. Thank you Jennifer. I I am going to, um, allow, uh, director Sue if she has a direct response, and then we will go into questions. My direct response is, thank you Jenny. I don't disagree. I know. Thank you. Okay. Um, we're gonna start with, um, Q and a. Now I have a couple of questions that were, that were asked by one of the people offering public comment. Uh, so I'm going to ask you several questions in a row and you can answer them. Um, this person wants to know why there has been progress for cat adoptions, but not for dogs. Why is there a drop in active rescue partnerships by half? And when was the last audit, um, of funding use? Uh, I'm sorry, what was the first question again? Why is, why has there been progress for cat adoptions but not for dog adoptions? Well, cats are a lot easier to handle than dogs are, right? Um, so most of our dogs that we have at the shelter are the larger bully breed type of dogs. Um, we do have a lot of people coming in. So where are the small dogs? How can we get small dogs from you? Um, we don't always have them at the shelter, so that could be one of the reasons. Um, our, our shelter manager, Hamilton. Do you know, do you have any idea why it's higher? Cats? I mean, we are up on adoptions altogether as well as in dogs. I think the question was comparing just one year to, to a specific year. If you look overall, we are still up on dog adoptions. Going back to one specific year. Yes, we are down, I think she mentioned 2019 or something like that. We're down a hundred in dogs. And then a lot goes into what's happening in the city as well as why is our intake going up so much. Um, not as many people can have the type of animals that we have. As Sue is saying, we don't have a lot of little dogs. We, we do have a lot of large dogs, um, that are harder to place than, um, other dogs. And that could be why the, the adoptions are down by a hundred when comparing it to that one year. And for our Homeward Bound partners, I know you've mentioned they're cut in half. So prior to COVID, we did have over 200 partners. Um, COVID had a lot to do with that. Some partners just dropped off outta the system altogether. Um, art, would you like to elabor right down there? Yeah, so we, we regularly stay in contact with, with our, our partners. Um, coming outta COVID, there have been a lot of organizations that are, that are no longer around, and that goes back to even before COVID. So when they're saying 200, that might've been what was listed on our website at one time. Um, yes, many of those organizations are, are no longer active. Um, and in some, some cases, groups also just don't have the same resources as they did in the past as well. Um, what we're seeing in the city as far as cost of living, we all know the high cost of pet care, medical food, all of that stuff. It affects rescues the same as it affects pet owners. And I'd like to add a little bit more to that. We did have our advisory board commission reach out to a lot of our partners, um, the ones who are current and possibly even some who are no longer involved. And they provided a report at our last, um, commission meeting about responses for a survey of why they, what they're looking for, why they're still pulling, why they're not pulling. So, um, we did have that at our last commission meeting available. The last question is about audit. So last time we audited. Um, as far as a funding type of audit, I remember something back in 2012. That was quite some time ago. It was definitely something we would be interested in open to doing. Okay. Uh, do I have any more questions or comments from, I have Derman Robinson, uh, other woman Fuentes, and then other woman Cruz, Uh, director. Thank you, uh, for your, um, time today. And, uh, I also want to give kudos to, uh, Armando, uh, and the folks that are, are in the box. Uh, you all do a oman's job, uh, with very limited resources. And I just want to, to thank you, um, for, um, the work that you guys do, um, in the city of Chicago. It's a, it's a very, very tough job. Um, and I just really want to give you guys kudos. I, um, my colleagues here, um, spent, um, some time, um, at your facility and, uh, really enjoyed myself. I had to think about, uh, being a dog dead of three and not adding any additional family members, uh, uh, to my household. And it was tough to leave there and not take, um, an additional, um, dog, um, home with me. Um, but, uh, however we can continue to, uh, be helpful to your efforts in adopting, uh, please let us know. Um, I posted my, um, time at your facility and, and we got, um, a lot of reviews, a lot of comments, and so I would like to suggest to my colleagues to do the same, um, because we certainly need to, to help this department. I would be remiss if I didn't thank, uh, the, the visitors that we have here. Um, I wanna thank you all the advocates for your support and, uh, being here today, it really shows us how important this is to the city of Chicago. So I appreciate you all taking time out of your, your busy schedules to come down and show your support today. Thank you very much. Thank you. Alderman Robinson. Uh, other woman Fuentes. Thank you. Uh, chairwoman. Uh, first, uh, again, I wanna thank the department, uh, Chen staff, uh, also advocates for being here too. Advocates in particular, Raza and Julie, uh, who have been in partnership with us doing this work. Um, I have a couple questions. I'm not gonna ask them all. I'll allow some of my colleagues to ask, and then I'll do a cleanup at the end, if that's okay with you. Chair one for any questions that haven't been asked. Um, director, can you, uh, tell us how often do you meet with the mayor's office to discuss the successes and challenges at CACC? And what are the outcomes? So we have regular operational overview meetings. Um, we're doing at least one to two a month. Um, we do discuss, uh, yes, our challenges and our, um, and our successes. Um, I mean, outcomes are, you're doing a great job, keep going, keep moving forward, you know? Um, so I don't know, Armando, do you wanna add anything to that? Yeah, so we do operational overviews and just go over the challenges that we're facing. Um, for the most part, I mean, I think just like everyone here is saying, we're doing the best that we can with what we have. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. Uh, director, can you tell us how many vacancies you currently hold? Um, so I have nine full-time vacancies and four part-time vacancies. Are we currently in the process for hiring, or are they held up in any sort of free? There's Actually one that we got through at the last minute. So they're currently in the onboarding process. Okay. And then how many full-time vets are currently on staff? We have three budgeted, three filled full-time veterinarians. In an ideal world, how many vets do you think you need? Wow, that's a loaded question. Uh, um, we'd really have to sit down and dig into that. Um, vets are not easy to come by, right? We, there's a lot of veterinarians that are out there who are not interested in shelter medicine, so they're even harder to come by for our shelter, especially in a shelter who does euthanize animals. Um, so that's something that we'd really need to dig into and look, um, I wouldn't be opposed to at least doubling the start. And then how many assistants do your vets have? Right now there are vet five vet assistants and one certified vet tech, and ideally it should be two support staff per one veterinarian. If I can just, yeah, if I can just add, uh, one of the big drawbacks for veterinary, uh, to get vets in is the requirement to live within the city of Chicago, which is a requirement for all city employees. We have, um, a lot of interest from vets. Unfortunately, they're not willing to move within the city limits. Thank you. Uh, director, can you walk us through, uh, steps, practices, processes in which you ensure the psychological safety of your, both your staff and your volunteers? Yes, absolutely. So most, number one, um, all city of Chicago employees have access to the Employee Assistance Assistance Program through the Department of Human Resources. Um, that's regularly distributed out to staff, um, at our all staff meetings and when problems arise. Um, but most recently we had a, um, oh, Angela, I'm drawing a blank. A young woman come in to help us with that. Can you elaborate a little bit on that? Uh, just a few weeks ago, we introduced our, um, actually she's part of a rescue and she offered to help our staff and it will eventually go to volunteers. She's coming in and she is a, um, well, wellbeing facilitator, I believe is the title. Um, so we had our first session, I guess at the end of September, and she'll be coming back for, uh, continuous sessions. So that was one of the things that we just started this year. Yeah. And excuse me, Can you state your name again for the record? And Your Laura Rayburn And You, and what's your position? Operations Manager. Thank you. And in addition to that, um, our volunteer group is of course, very strong. We have one of our own volunteers who hosts a monthly session with our current volunteers for compassion fatigue. Thank you. This is my last question, and then I'll do cleanup at the end. Chairwoman, uh, director, can you reiterate what is the capacity of the shelter and how many animals do we currently have there? Well, I'm gonna actually ask Art Hamilton to respond to that. He's our shelter manager. So what we're currently at our capacity and well, what is the capacity and what we have today? So capacity can be looked at a lot of different ways. Um, we have 225 brick and mortar cages for dogs, and we have about another under 200 cages for cats. Um, some of them are brick and mortar, some of them are portables. A lot of places tend to measure the capacity, not by what you can actually house, but by how much staff you have to take care of those animals. Um, and then some of the older optics are like that. Every animal should have at least 15 minutes of care, food, water, and, um, you know, socialization, cleaning, et cetera. So if we went by that 15 minutes, we would, we would be doing more than that, but that is still not enough for the animals that we have. Um, and as far as like staffing, it's gonna vary from, from day to day. Um, people have vacations, people call off different things like that. So there are some days that we're, we're gonna have, uh, more staff than others. Oh. What's our current population today? Do you remember? Uh, Armando, Gimme one second. We got it. Hi, Our Armando Tejeda, a public information officer. Um, so this morning we opened with 225 dogs and 151 cats. That's before our officers went out into the field. And intake starts at 3:00 PM today. Is that it? No, you're done. Okay. Uh, other woman, uh, Cruz. Thank You Chairwoman. Um, thank you Sue for being here and your department here as well. Thank you for the partnership for all of our pet fair events that we are having. So we appreciate the, um, partnership. As many have stated, there's just so much happening in our city, but this is something that is extremely important for our residents as well. They have been reaching out to my office through calls, um, through email. So this is something that we need. Um, a we need a lot of answers of what is happening. I know we are doing the best you possibly can, but our residents, some of them feel otherwise, they feel that we're not doing enough. They need to know what is happening in the department. And my questions will be focused on that, um, based on the input they have shared. So I do have, um, couple questions. So bear with me. One of my first questions is, who from the mayor's office does CACC report to? So I report directly to Deputy Mayor Lori Lipson, Nor Lipson. Okay. And as we talk about like, you know, needing much help and there is more opportunities in the department, we do have to address, uh, the budget concerns that we have. Have you, have you reached out to the mayor's office, uh, regarding funding? When was the last time, have you, have you been asked, um, regarding like, this is how much we need to be able to operate and what has been the outcome? So this is something that we do every year during budget season. Um, we're currently in budget season, so I don't know what's happening for 2026 yet as we haven't had our meetings with the budget department yet. Do You have a number that you're requesting? Um, I do not. Okay. Um, I think that is something that, you know, going into budget season, since a lot of the, uh, departments already meeting with us and saying, this is what we need from your support to be able to do the, um, you know, the responsibilities of their departments. I think that is something, um, to be able to consider. Also. Um, one of the things that was brought up, it was the volunteering process. It seems that there is a lot of people willing to step in and to, to help, but the, it seems, and this is according to somebody who was a former volunteer, so somebody who has been able to be there and express how the volunteer process takes so long, it can take up to six months to be become a volunteer. Um, it, it seems that the process is, you know, fingerprinting in one location during certain hours, not having the ability to be able to do so. So what are some of your recommendations to streamline that and make it a process that is, doesn't take six months and is a much faster process for these individuals to be able to volunteer? So I will say that six months, it was like that previously. Um, at this point we host a monthly volunteer information session. Um, so, so folks had come in to hear about what the process is and what to do, what you're gonna be able to do at the shelter as a volunteer. Um, so we host those monthly. At that point, the applicant will fill out an a survey to say exactly what they're interested in doing at the shelter. From that point, they then schedule their fingerprint appointments. Now fingerprint appointments are, it's the same across the board for city employees. You have to make the appointment with the Department of Human Resources. Um, they're open Monday through Friday, eight 30 to four 30. I mean, that's out of my hands. I have no control over that. But I am told that all volunteers are required to be fingerprinted. We've been doing that since 2009, so I remember that bringing that up back then too. Um, so everybody has to get fingerprinted. And I will say that I actually get the clearances myself still, and I'm seeing clearances coming back within seven to eight days from that point. Um, then volunteers have to go through a training session, right? I mean, working with the dogs, working with the dogs at the shelter are very different than working with the dog inside somebody's home. Um, you have to learn how to open the cages. You have to learn how to leash the dog from the cage and get them out the hallways. There's a lot of safety concerns with doing that. So there is a lot of training, um, as far as with a co volunteer to get that, um, to work on that. And then there's one-on-one sessions and mentoring sessions that have to, um, go into place. Actually, Jamie White is a current volunteer with us. Um, she has a mentor session at three o'clock that she'd love to get to so she could get our volun, our new volunteers trained. Jamie, did I miss out on anything with that? Um, no. You introduce Yourself and state your, your role. Thank you. I'm Jamie White. I'm a volunteer at CACC and on the Board of Friends of Animal Care and Control. Um, so what I've heard from mentees that come through, I haven't heard the six month anymore. It is quite shorter. Um, but everybody's life gets in the way. They sign up for an information session, and then they need to schedule that fingerprint appointment. And sometimes they don't respond to the email and then they'll respond to the email. But by the time they respond, those appointments available are no longer there. And so it's quite a bit of administrative back and forth, and that is the only part of the process that's controlled by staff and not volunteers. Volunteers run the information sessions, volunteers run intro to dog walking, volunteers run the mentor sessions. Once they, the fingerprints are cleared from start to end for that orientation and mentor sessions. That takes less than 30 days, of course, unless one of those mentees is going on vacation or they have some other issue where they can't come to the shelter right away. So what is now, so I know you said that was before the six months. If you had to gimme an average, what would, what is the average time now From start all the way through a finish of training? About 30 days. About 30 days. Basically, if somebody follows a process, follows Straight through. Yes. Um, my other question is regarding, um, the leadership. You have been an active executive director for, um, since 2023. The conversations that you have with the mayor's administration, is there any, um, conversations regarding who it's gonna be become the actual, um, director of the facility? I, you know, based on this question is that it seems that that department desperately needs permanent and stable leadership to be able to come in and make some changes. But based on your conversations, what are you hearing based on the, what are your plans? What is the mayor saying regarding the leadership at department? And so this Is an appointed position by the mayor, and when he's ready to make that appointment, he will do so. Okay. Sounds good. Um, also, other questions that I have also, this is from one of the volunteers and, and I'm not sure if this is true and that that's why I'm asking too. Um, one of the questions which is alarming to me, and I want you to, uh, to clarify is that dogs, it, um, CACC only get out of their kennels once every few days. And what is the plan to do something about that? I will say that they're probably not wrong. That dogs are walked once every few days. Um, and dogs are walked by our volunteers. We sh we do not have the staff available to do so to walk the dogs or give them any enrichment. So staff does not have anything to do with that. Um, they're cleaning, feeding, providing the, um, you know, movement of the animals from cage to cage, um, medical care, but we don't have staff to walk and provide the enrichment. That's what the volunteers are here for. Um, so we definitely need more volunteers cleared and in the door and to do that. It seems that there, there is, I think there is any, um, people wanna volunteer. I mean, just, you know, I have a fur baby and I cannot imagine not walking my dog two to three times a day. Um, so I, I think this is something that why people are saying we need to do more and we're not doing it. Um, also another, another question is like, we, you know, we have seen is nationally, you know, numbers have gone up more or, um, dogs or cats are being dropped off, um, at CAC or other similar locations. But it seems that other cities have been able to implement, um, other outcomes and they just wanna know what is the difference with us, with our city. Like why we can mirror the demand just like in other places and be able to have a better outcomes than what we're having now. Well, That's a great question. I'd, I'd like to see what other outcomes they're saying that they have. I mean, are you just saying more adoption and more, I mean, over the past few years, I mean, our social media sites have just blown up. I mean, people see us again. Is it that we don't have the right type of animals? I don't know. I mean that's something we'd have to dig into and take a look at. Do you think more funding will make a difference? More funding to have additional positions to be able to service the clients as they come into the facility would may be helpful. Yes. Because you mentioned early on you had nine vacancies, correct? Right. Yep. Um, and I believe you addressed it. Like what, what is happening to be able to fulfill those, um, vacancies as quickly as possible? Well, one is currently in the onboarding process, and that's our animal care aide who's works in the shelters for cleaning the shelter. Um, we have four field staff, actually five field staff, an inspector, and four ACOs vacant. Um, those are all involved in the hiring freeze right now. Okay. My last question 'cause I know my colleagues have other questions. Um, so have you, um, euthanized a fully vetted adopted animal that has received, has been vaccinated, chipped, sprayed or neutered, and received medical attention from a rescue partner? Have we euthanized an animal that's already been vetted? Uh, she had asked a lot. You said unadopted. Yeah. Have we ized an adopted animal? Just overall? So you know, whether it has been one that has been adopted who has not been adopted, just the process of fully vetted animal. Oh yes. An animals that are fully vetted is, is not, um, a responsible way to, to manage your, your euthanasia. If you have an animal that's trying to bite whether or not it's been neutered, microchipped, um, you would not adopt that animal out. Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you. Other Woman? I have other woman had an elder woman, Ramirez, and I am going to close that because we are running behind and the committee in finance needs to meet. So other women hadn't, and then other woman Ramirez. And then we'll close. Um, thank you chair. I'll make mine actually brief. So one, I just want to thank the animal, the a CC team for all that you do. Um, I wanna thank all of the, um, members of the public, um, who came today, um, for your testimony, for the testimony that was shared in writing through the committee, um, and for, uh, chair you and and alter Fuentes for bringing this forward, um, through the chair. I wanna hear from the mayor's office, right? So we've, we've got the, the people doing the work with the resources, um, like one hand tied behind your back is what I feel. And we've been having this conversation, um, for several years. Um, I know it did predate, um, the current mayoral administration. Um, but it's unacceptable to allow a core city service, uh, and department to go so neglected. So Through the chair, I would like, um, to hear from our deputy mayor, um, and from the mayor's office and from the Office of Budget and Management, um, why these essential positions are part of, um, the hiring freeze. Um, I would argue they fall under public health and safety. I don't think that they should be part of the hiring freeze. And also, um, of course, um, you know, commissioner for you and your team, um, I'll just echo my colleagues. Uh, uh, Alder Cruz's request for budget needs. Um, we, we want to make sure that these services are provided. Um, I would also, you know, agree with a lot of our commenters. Um, how we, how we care for our pets is also how we care for our people. Um, and we know that there are increasing demands, um, both because not just, uh, immigration enforcement and raids and, and fear, but also of housing crisis and shortage and the costs going up for everything. So we know that people are having to part with their furry family members, um, not because they want to, but because they have to. And, um, there's an increased demand. We've gotta figure out a way to, to resource that. Thank you Chair. We Will submit your question through the chair. Thank you. Other woman Ramirez, vice Chair. Yes. Ramez. Well, kudos. I mean, thank you guys for all the work and wanna thank everybody for bringing us to this moment. I do wanna highlight the partnerships and I'm very curious, like on a year to year PA basis, like what are those conversations with the partnerships and the ways in which they're stepping up and also meeting the need. Like how, how do they, how do you guys negotiate their time, um, and their resources? So we currently have a memorandum of understanding with P Chicago for our partnership on our diversion on our 360 at CACC program. Um, I would like to just say that Celine is here from Pause, and I, I thought she was gonna have an opportunity to really speak, but can they submit their written statements in? Okay. I just wanted to make sure her statement gets in on what the program actually does. Um, so we definitely have conversations very regularly with paw. Our Homeward Bound partners are regularly having conversations with our animal placement coordinators. So another position at the department who really works with them to see what type of animals they're interested in. Um, cook County Animal and Rabies Control, again, also here today, um, to support. And we're always having conversations. I mean, we all know Mama Dew, he was our previous executive director. Um, but Cook County's constantly stepping up to try to help. They host training sessions. They use our facility, our staff can go for free. They don't charge us anything for that. And then our help with their, uh, vaccine clinics is, is amazing. So partnerships, we regularly talk to Whomever's ready to step up. Yeah. So thank you to all the partnerships that have stepped up. And then I do, I mean, I am very curious about the Cook County, um, and just the ways that, that they've stepped up. I don't know if you wanna highlight, I know you're kind of, you kind of alluded to that right now. Um, and ways that maybe we can build a better partnership if you have any ideas. Yeah, I mean, cook County Animal and Rabies Control has just been amazing, especially with our vaccine cl our vaccine clinics. Vaccine clinics from our shelter. We started actually as something that I started back in 2010 and we've been doing vaccine clinics since we used to support those vaccine clinics with our veterinarians coming out into the communities with our staff, doing everything. Um, you know, of course with budgetary constraints and things happening, um, cook County has stepped up. They provide the veterinarians, which is the largest, um, um, part of our, we can't do the clinics without a veterinarian and veterinarians are not cheap, let's just say it that way, right? So they pay for veterinarians to come out and help. They pay for veterinary support staff. They provide the rabies vaccines, the microchips. All I have to provide is one of the four of my team here, or the five of us here, um, to come out and help with that. So we're filling out the paperwork, we do our data entry on our end register microchips, keep track of everything. Um, vaccine clinics are, are my heart. I love doing them. I love talking to the community when we're out there and I would love to do more. Yeah, I mean people, they get in line, they do Almost The day before 5:00 AM Yes, Exactly. Exactly. And you know, they're camping out. Yeah. But they're so wonderful and they're much appreciated. And my last point is like, what as Aldermanic offices, I love your flyers, whoever does your comms flyers are the cutest. Um, but is is there anything that you wanna just let us know on like what we can do as better partners? Yeah, and I definitely appreciate, I see when you post, when you repost our stuff. So, uh, social media is probably the biggest thing out there right now, sharing what we send. We do have a monthly adoption event and I know Armando reaches out to all of your offices through your chiefs. Um, so follow up with them, make sure you guys are sharing those posts and getting the word out for us. And that's really one of the main things we could do right now. Thank you Ramirez. Um, I'm going to leave it here because we are running really behind. Thank you so much to um, directors, to to the team volunteers and to everybody that took time today to come. Listen, bring your concerns. We hear you. And we are going to continue this conversation, um, particularly as it pertains to budget needs, um, in this cycle. Um, would there be no further business before the committee? Can I get a motion to adjourn? So moved by Alderman Sava. Hearing. No objection. Sole order. The meeting of the Committee on Health and Human Relations is now adjourn. Can I just add one more quick thing? I just wanna thank all of you again for everything that you've done for us and everybody at the mayor's office, the budget department, everybody's been so helpful. Thank you.