Everyone.
Give us 1, okay.
uh,
Uh, good morning, everyone.
It is.
10:10.
1012 a.m.
We're trying to make sure we have.
we're trying to make sure we have a Quan
somebody.
somebody left out.
Who was it?
You.
You only have 9 we're waiting up, I'm sorry.
We have to wait another few minutes.
Give.
Give us a few minutes, everyone.
um,
while we're waiting.
while we're waiting 10 serious, we're good.
Okay, we got 10 now.
Okay, we got 10 now, okay?
Thank you. First of all, I want to.
Thank you. First of all, I want to, um, take this
opportunity to
Thank everyone for working with me on.
Thank everyone for working with me on this committee.
uh, want to thank
Uh, want to thank all of the zoning.
Uh, people in the zoning department people from the mayor's
office. Thank the mayor.
office, thank the mayor for giving me this opportunity,
especially want to thank my vice chair for holding it down
for me, being in a gap, all the time. So thank you. And I
want to thank the staff.
want to thank the staff on the zoning, uh, committee. So, I
it's a, it has been an honor and a pleasure to serve. This
is my last meeting. Uh, so so I just want to say that. So
thank you all very much. So, now it's, it's about
thank you all very much. So now it's, it's about thank you.
No problem.
Thank you, thank you. Thank
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Sound like somebody.
Sound like somebody got the Holy Ghost over here.
So, uh,
so,
uh, it is, it is let's say
Uh, it is it is let's say it's 10:15 on July 15th 2025.
In this meeting of the Chicago.
in this meeting of the Chicago city council committee on
zoning landmarks and building standards is called to order.
This hearing will Encompass both.
Called the order.
Called the order, it's called the order it's called to
order.
We?
We will start off with a roll call.
Alderman Spa.
Alderman Hopkins.
Alderman. Dow.
Alderman Hall.
Alderman. Harris, Alderman, bill.
Alderman, Ramirez alderman.
Alderman, Ramirez, Alderman Moore.
Alderman Mosley.
Alderman, sit your Lopez.
Almond Fuentes almond.
Almond Fuentes almond Cruise, almond Conway.
Alderman cruzada.
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Uh, almond V.
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Uh, almond vagus almond rally almond canson.
Alderman clay.
Alderman, clay, Vice chair, Larson, chairman Bernett
president.
present.
We have a quorum. Thank you. Um,
at this time, we
At this time, we will begin our public comment, period.
um,
so, so we we
at this time, we will begin the
At this time, we will begin the public comment period. The
public comment period will
public comment period, will be limited to 30 minutes out of
respect for everyone's Time Each speaker because we have
over we have about 20 people.
so,
so each speaker will instead of getting 3 minutes, we have
to cut you down to a minute so that we can have allow
everyone to have an opportunity to speak, okay?
everyone to have an opportunity to speak. Okay? So instead
of doing a lottery, we're going to allow everyone to say
what their 400 against, and, and try to be fair about it.
But today's hearing we would do that. So now, uh,
But today's hearing we would do that. So, now, uh, first
speaker,
Would be.
Yearly half.
Followed by.
Followed by Brianna Smith.
Yoli. Yes, sir.
Alderman, bill.
Alderman Bill. All right, Mr. Chairman um, based on your
testimony, you
testimony you said you had about 20 speakers. If you do,
just 1 minute that's only 20 minutes and our rules and goes
30.
30 minutes. So I would recommend you. Do 2 minutes per
speaker? All right.
speaker, all right, we'll do 2 minutes, then, thank you for
pointing that out.
pointing that out Alderman bill. So it that'll be 40
minutes.
Okay. All right. We're gonna have a long.
Okay. All right. We're gonna have a long meeting today. Uh,
so okay. Uh you may proceed and you all need.
so okay. Uh you may proceed and you all need to know. You
don't have to take the whole 2 minutes. That don't mean you
have to do 2 minutes. Okay, go ahead, Yol.
have to do 2 minutes, okay, go ahead. Yoli.
good morning, ladies and gentlemen, my name is
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Jory huff and
I am a woman black develop.
and I am a woman black developer in Chicago. I'm
I am a woman black developer in Chicago. I'm licensed
bonded and insured. I'm a general contractor.
bonded and insured. I'm a general contractor and a licensed
brick layer. I wanted to share with you.
brick layer. I wanted to share with you my project on 79th,
Street. The project is called revive 79 and I am
Street, the project is called revive 79 and I am here about
a downzoning from alderman
a downzoning from Alderman Harris to Downs on it from its
original.
B3 D2, which is a shopping.
B3 D2, which is a shopping district, commercial to
residential.
This not only puts an additional burden on.
this not only puts an additional burden on small developers
as myself because as, you know,
as myself because as you know, if the zoning is approved, I
would have to sue the city of Chicago, which is additional
time and additional funding.
this also prevents and delays, any project that I would be
able to go forward with on 79th Street. My Target locations
are 1728.
are 1728, East 79th, Street, and 1703,
are 1728, East 79th, Street, and 1703 my plan is to bring 2
corporations that would hire from the community from
returning citizens.
returning citizens, higher trained. And I am also
affiliated,
affiliated with a black labor union. We are trying to get
contractors in an individual
contractors in and individuals trained and into the Union
so they can make union scale to have more than the livable
wage, but to create Legacy.
wage, but to create Legacy and Community revive 79.
coming forward.
Requesting your attention to this matter.
because we need,
Because we need development on 79th Street, it's not a
matter.
matter of going against the alderman. It's a matter of
bringing opportunity economics.
bringing opportunity, economics jobs training future.
training enhance our
training, enhance our entrepreneurship. I will have a
creative Center.
creative Center on site. I will have a commercial kitchen.
I have in my renderings layout to have additional room for
small businesses to come in on short term.
Thank you.
So, B bana Smith.
And then, Brian D.
And then Brian Duff after baena.
Proceed, ma'am. My name is
Proceed. Ma'am. My name is Brie Schmidt's rocovich. I've
been in Chicago Housing provider for 15 years.
been in Chicago Housing provider for 15 years and a
licensed realtor for 20 years. And I've worked extensively
with Mom and Pop Real Estate Investors as
with Mom and Pop. Real Estate Investors as my role as
managing broker of Second City. Real estate, I'm here to
express my deep concerns regarding the northwest side
preservation.
preservation ordinance, and to support the efforts of
aldermen vie.
aldermen, viego's and Cardona to exempt their awards from
the boundaries. I think it's important to understand the
property characteristics.
property characteristics of these ordinance zones, 41% are
2 to
to 4 units. 3% of the housing is 5 plus units.
to 4 units. 3% of the housing is 5 plus units and the rest
is single family. Homes less than
rest is single family, homes less than or 88% of the
housing. There is non
There is non-corporate, owned and 73%, are
housing. There is non-corporate owned and 73% are owner
occupied.
Investors and homeowners. The ordinance has created a
significant financial burden for property.
significant financial burden for property owners. I had 1
owner in the first word, telling me that.
owner in the first word, tell me that their house sold for
$50,000 less than the same.
$50,000 less than the same house. The next block over did
last year and that was their retirement money. I have
another family in the 26. Ward, that told me that they are
in senior housing and about to lose their home to
foreclosure. And they had a significantly reduced their
purchase price to be able to sell the property.
purchase price, to be able to sell the property, and let's
call a spade a spade, it's essentially a tariff that is
being pro uh pushed on to homeowners.
The core.
The core issue here isn't the right of first refusal, but
rather.
rather the lack of consultation with real estate
professionals during the ordinance drafting. The ordinance
is so complex. That the Doh even struggles to follow the
rules, which is now forced title companies to review
paperwork themselves.
paperwork themselves and issue an endorsement that costs
homeowners.
homeowners at least a thousand dollars. Additionally, if
lenders had been consulted, they would have realized that
every single owner occupied loan requires the buyer to move
in within 60,
in within 60 days, however, the ordinance prohibits.
vacating any tenants for 6 months after the, uh, the
closing that puts buyers in a position to commit mortgage
fraud and forces sellers to vacate. Tenants, in fact, 20%
of Agents surveyed,
of Agents surveyed said they had to vacate tenants before
closing just to be able to be in compliance with the
ordinance.
Thank you.
Ryan go.
Ryan Guff.
Followed by Joshua.
Followed by Joshua Bender.
Christie sir. Hello.
Christie sir. Hello, my name is Brian Duff. I've lived in
Edgewater since 2009. I just wanted to express my support
to legalizing.
to legalizing accessory dwelling units. Please. It would be
great for renters, like,
be great. For renters like myself. It'd be great for my
landlady. Help. Spread the
landlady, help spread the property tax burden. I think it
would be great for the city, the environment.
would be great for the city, the environments and our
state. Thank you.
Brenda, and
Brenda and, uh, Dan
J. E. Shea.
Proceed, sir. There was a Chicago 1. You can be like him,
you still have passed. He was go ahead.
There was a Chicago 1 who grew up in an accessory, dwelling
unit.
unit, on the South side at 7436 South uclid Avenue, her
family rented.
family. Rented, a converted attic apartment from our great
aunts who lived
aunts, who lived in the first floor. Her aunt needed the
money.
money, her family.
Needed a home.
her aunt lived in 1 of the few areas where adus were
allowed, what if she had
allowed, what? If she had Michelle Robinson might not have
become first.
become First Lady. Michelle Obama, we are testify.
become First Lady. Michelle Obama. We are testifying in
favor of the policy to increase adus because we believe the
best way to promote housing affordability.
the best way to promote housing. Affordability is to
increase housing Supply
housing Supply. Housing, affordability is a big problem in
Chicago.
problem in Chicago. 43% of households are burdened by
housing costs. 23% are severely burned.
23% are severely burned and 2/3 of our low-income neighbors
spend, at least
neighbors. Spend, at least half of their money on housing.
We
we can do better in 2017. Los Angeles passed its own
ordinance or moving many of
ordinance or moving. Many of the barriers people face to
creating more add
creating more adus, these reforms have been successful. La,
now has more than 27,000 additional, adus surrounding
counties, such as Long Beach have taken notice and have
also expanded Adu usage, the only Equitable way.
also expanded Adu usage. The only Equitable way to
Foster affordability is to increase housing.
Foster affordability, is to increase housing Supply to do
this. We need to remove regulations that unnecessarily
restrict.
restrict Supply.
That points to further adieu reforms.
that points to further adieu reforms, including reducing, or
eliminating the number of units that need to meet
affordability requirements.
This disproportionately.
This disproportionately hurts people who need more housing.
Allowing more access.
allowing more access to dwelling units is a simple fast way
to help your constituents by making housing more plentiful
and affordable.
and affordable Chicago can lead on this issue by adopting.
and affordable Chicago can lead on this issue by adopting
these proven reforms. Thank you. Thank you.
So dalen.
Be leaving the levy.
Dylan Dylan, Dylan.
Dylan. Dylan Dylan is the shock. Okay?
Dylan.
Dylan Sharky.
uh,
and Diane Heywood.
and Diane Heywood have to Dillon Sharky. Okay. Yeah.
Imagine you're a small business owner.
imagine you're a small business owner, it's early in the
morning and you're not get a knock on your door and it's
the police you think you're going to be, told you've done
something wrong and it turns out you have, you have too
many signs.
many signs in your windows. You'll face fines for hundreds
of dollars. Every
of dollars every day until you have the money to take them
down.
I look at businesses all over. Who would be in violation of
this?
this ordinance, a restaurant posting pictures of their
dishes,
dishes and their window a realtor showing people
dishes and their window. A realtor. Showing people
opportunities are places to buy or rent in their window. A
hair salon advertising all of its services. Is this really
the behavior we want to punish and our city?
I'm testifying against the proposed window rest.
I'm testifying against the proposed window restrictions
ordinance, which would restrict businesses from having no
more.
more than 25% of the window space used.
more than 25% of the window space used by signs. The only
way our city will maintain its status as a hub of
opportunity is if we prioritize
opportunity, is if we prioritize expanding the economy and
creating new jobs, it is unfair to create burdens that will
fall on hard.
fall on. Hardworking Chicagoans Chicagoans already suffer
under the burden of too many harmful regulations.
This.
This ordinance disproportionately hurts small businesses,
which are the engines of our City's economy.
Large signage is.
Large signage is a key marketing option. It's literally
easier to see.
Larger signs. Allow businesses to Showcase more.
Larger signs, allow businesses to Showcase more services.
The relatively inexpensive un.
The relatively inexpensive unlike digital marketing, which
can be a heavy lift for a smaller.
can be a heavy lift for a smaller business, who can't
afford it.
This ordinance.
This ordinance would especially harm service based
businesses like hair salons.
businesses like hair, salons, restaurants, restaurants, and
auto garages that rely on signs to advertise their
services. This would hurt businesses that serve clients and
more than 1 language because often their signs need.
more than 1 language because often their signs need to post
multiple languages to communicate to customers.
The police department would enforce the ordinance.
the police department, would enforce ordinance and a city
with serious crime issues, is this really where we where we
want to focus. Our City's resources. Thank you for your
time.
Thank you.
So we're going to go a little bit.
So we're going to go a little bit out of order. Um, before
Diane come up, uh,
Diane come up, uh all the Ronnie Mosley have requested to.
Diane come up, uh, all the Ronnie Mosley have requested to
attend. This meeting by remote means under the provisions.
of rule 59, um,
of rule 59. Um, Alderman Larson makes a motion to approve
the Alderman's request. All in favor. Signify by saying, I
the Alderman's request, all in favor. Signify by saying, I
all oppose and opinion of the chair. The
all oppose and opinion of the chair, the eyes have it? Uh,
Diane.
Heywood.
El.
Elijah Heywood, sir.
so, you don't look like,
So you don't look like but it said, Diane on here.
Yes, sir.
So, you speak.
So you speaking for Diane, yes, sir.
All right, go ahead.
My name is Elijah.
my name is Elijah Heywood and I'm, uh, concerned about the,
uh, resoning of 11:43
uh, resoning of 1143, West, 95th Street.
Um,
I don't even see or enough.
Space for a builder.
Space for a builder house there.
Um, and
I'm concerned because it's a half a block from the school.
and,
and um,
This is what?
This is what I don't have a good picture but this is what
it looked like.
For 20 years.
For 20 years and I've put 000 of my retirement money.
For 20 years and I've put 000 of my retirement money in it.
To uh, repair.
to uh, repair because it was a half a block from the school
and I was concerned the kids playing over there in it.
and I was concerned, the kids playing over there in it. Uh,
and
95th Street is uh, business from
CIS, road to
CIS road to Stony Island and I don't quite understand.
CIS road to Stony Island and I don't quite understand why
you want to rezone a business area.
you want to rezone a business area like that.
Just my concern. Thank you, sir. Thank you Mr. George.
Blakemore.
You know, you can't speak.
You know, you can't speak for nobody else. You've already
broke 1.
broke 1 rule right here. He can't speak for somebody. That
is start his time. Please wait a minute, do whatever he
can't.
can't speak for the rules and you don't enforce the rules 1
way and whatever you want to do, they got rules here.
They got rules here.
But you.
But you won't need all beta.
You break through.
You break through you. Let him speak and and he didn't sign
up.
up, he's taking somebody else but don't go there with me.
With this Voodoo. Uh,
With this Voodoo uh Master going on here, all of my
Democrat.
every 1 of them, this is a
Every 1 of them, this is a fence pool here. No check and
balance system.
not at all, you have
Not at all. You have broken the rule right in front of
everybody.
You have to say, are you speaking for that?
You have to say, are you speaking for that lady? He say,
yeah, and you let him speak and then when 9 minutes is up,
I expect you.
me too, and don't have
Me to and don't have no police dragging me out.
It's not rules here.
It's back all Democrats here. They all corrupt here.
And that. And they
And that and they reach tackle, they ain't going to the
housing department.
housing department now. They go nothing.
Vote for they rigged.
Vote for they rigged the vote. This is a dirty l.
Vote for they rigged the vote. This is a dirty loan.
Here.
They?
They had what they sow. Least didn't get 1 day in jail. Go
cry and pay now you
cry and pay. Now, you think in the same state
The house. And
The house and when my minutes is up, Mr. Blakemore, you
stay out.
stay out when you just got you what? Let
stay out when you just got you, what let him stand up. So
you watch
Black.
Black Faces in high places.
so,
Thank you, Mr. Blake Moore.
we, we
We we gonna miss you too. We're gonna miss you too Mr.
Blake Moore. Uh Danielle Carter.
that's,
And then Zoe.
And then Zoe Zoe Lee after that.
first of all,
First of all, y'all all going to jail up in here.
So,
So don't worry about it, Mr. Blakemore about the rules.
Okay, let me read. What are all the men or all the person
is? Because a lot of you all don't even know.
is? Because a lot of you all don't even know what it is. I
know you don't so let me read it to you all.
and all the men or all the
And all the men or all the person is a local government.
official representing a a specific.
official representing a, a specific war or District within
a city.
a city, they serve as a liaison between their constituents
and the city council.
and the city council acting as a representation, a
representative for their War interests. And
participating, in legislative process,
a alderman or all the
A alderman, or all the person are responsible for
understanding.
understanding and advocating for the needs.
understanding and advocating for the needs and concerns of
the residents within that war. So, majority of you all
already failed that,
already failed that period because you don't represent your
consentual. Its so we're going to talk about that. So like
I said,
I said and Michelle Harris, we know you don't represent.
your award because you study selling out your ward.
You want to put a homes up?
You want to put a homes up in there and that's not zone for
the. You want to down Zone that area.
the. You want to down Zone that area with that which that
area is for commercial. We have time and time again a black
black citizens saying how you are not allowed.
black citizens saying how you are not allowed them to open
up businesses and their communities. And you want to down
Zone it. So we understand that you don't represent your
constituents or don't none of you.
constituents, or don't none of you all all the persons
half. You all don't know what a all.
you all, don't know what a all the person supposed to
represent.
And we're going to make sure all your constituents know.
we're going door to door and Ward to Ward to make.
we're going door to door and Ward to Ward, to make sure or
and I'm on the board horn, real loud to make sure all of
your constituents, know what a piece of
your constituents, know what, a piece of garbage. Most of
you all the mens are and I'm telling you right now, if
y'all don't understand what y'all,
y'all don't understand what y'all going to jail and we flip
in Chicago red and I don't care. Y'all can try to read the
Thank you.
So, zo, Zoe.
Lee. Zoe Lee and then uh, after that Chloe
Lee, Zoe Lee and then uh after that Chloe groom, please
Miss Lee
Lee. Let's see, Marlene Hopkins over there. Shout out to
you for running an illegal eminent domain.
you for running an illegal eminent domain scheme, in our
communities, for over 20 years, in the name of building
violations,
you definitely, I'm going to
You definitely, I'm going to make sure the Department of
Justice Department of Justice.
Justice Department of Justice come and get you because you
are the main reason.
are the main reason why my building is knocked down.
Now.
You've been the Almond since?
You've been the Almond since 2006. Michelle Harris and 79th
has nothing.
And you're going to try.
And you're going to try to make more houses over there.
the, this affordable housing I need
The this affordable housing. I need y'all to understand
this you white Progressive.
You white liberals?
It is a racket affordable housing.
It is a racket affordable. Housing is a racket. If they
really cared about affordable housing, the every community,
really cared about affordable housing, the every community
in the city in the states of Dem
in the city, in the states of Democrats would have housing,
we don't have housing, we don't have businesses.
we don't have housing, we don't have businesses, and
they're going to continue to do it because that's the
Democratic way.
They have to continue.
They have to continue to say that we're oppressed.
Ain't nobody.
Ain't nobody oppressed.
I Got 5.
I Got 5 lawsuits.
Against the city of Chicago.
against the city of Chicago, for my money because they
Against the city of Chicago, for my money because they keep
taking our properties in the name of building V.
taking our properties, in the name, of building violations,
all that stuff, all this.
all that stuff. All this is a racket, stop, leave 79th
alone, put some businesses there, leave jorley Huff there.
she got it, she got it from Cook County, Land Bank fair,
and square.
Y'all criminals.
Thank you. Thank you.
Miss groom. And then after Miss groom is Noah.
Are you know, or are you go ahead?
Are you know or are you go ahead? Proceed Miss groom. Thank
you. Thank you alderman.
you. Thank you Alderman. Um good morning everyone. My name
is Dr.
My name is Dr. Khloe groom. And I'm a resident of the
is Dr. Khloe groom. And I'm a resident of the 34th Ward.
Um, I think Alderman Bernett for his service to the city.
You have brought so much new housing to Chicago.
And completely.
And completely transformed West Loop in Fulton Market.
I'm here to speak today, in favor of ADD
I'm here to speak today in favor of adus and parking reform
which will both help create more housing in Chicago. It
will also help me and my family put down roots in the city
in the future.
both of these ordinances are great on their own, but
together, they're even better like chocolate and peanut
butter. Why?
Building parking is.
Building parking is expensive. A surface spot costs around?
Currently.
Currently the parking mandates required by Chicago, demand.
that home builders spend that money.
that home builders spend that money, whether they would
actually use that parking or not. This also makes building
adus much more expensive, and
adus much more expensive and complicated, if family may
want to demolish a garage to build a wheelchair.
want to demolish a garage to build a wheelchair, accessible
Adu for aging parents,
But parking mandates make that impossible.
I want to emphasize that.
I want to emphasize that the parking reform ordinance that
laspada is putting forward.
laspada is putting forward is not a ban on building.
parking. It just gives families the choice to build parking
Additionally, the ordinance,
parking. Additionally, the ordinance only applies to
small-scale residential,
small-scale residential areas that are close to Transit,
which makes perfect.
which makes perfect sense.
Um, I'll end it here. Thank you so much. Thank you.
uh,
we, we like to we like to acknowledge Alderman. Brian
Hopkins, alderman.
Hopkins, Alderman, cruise, and Alderman Hall is all here
for the corn.
for the Quan. Thank you. So, um, no.
for the Quan. Thank you. So, um, Noah and then, um, after
Noah is Joshua over from all Clybourn Street,
Hi. My name is Noah. I'm a renter and a resident.
Hi. My name is Noah. I'm a renter and a resident of the 46
Ward. And I'm here to voice my support for the ordinance,
to legalize adus Citywide. It's passed due for Chicago to
join cities, like Portland. And
join cities, like Portland and LA in giving homeowners back
their right to add extra.
their right to add extra residents to their property. Coach
houses are a part of the very fabric that makes Chicago's
neighborhoods unique.
neighborhoods unique yet. Over a 100 years ago, we stripped
homeowners of this.
homeowners of this ability, requiring them to go through an
arduous process.
arduous process to do what was once. Their right is
regressive, if cities of America with majority single
family,
family housing, stock are allowing coach houses by right?
then Chicago must do the same to write this historic wrong.
then Chicago must do the same to write this historic rank.
Um, and these are
um and these are not corporate developers hoping to make a
quick Buck off our communities. These are our neighbors who
want to build extra living space to house their children,
who can't afford to buy.
who can't afford to buy their own home. Their aging
parents, who
who uh deserve the dignity to live independently and not.
who uh deserve the dignity to live independently and not in
an uncaring nursing home. But still be close to home with.
the family that that love them and support them and empty.
Nesters, who want to give renters like me a better deal
than landlords
landlords and make extra income because they live on a
fixed income.
Despite outcry claiming such changes would destroy neighbor.
neighborhood character legalizing adus would actually
restore.
restore that character, the organized groups, opposing this
positive.
positive change are acting in their own self-interest.
exclusionary block clubs who believe they have the right to
place internal migration controls on our
place, internal migration controls on our communities to
keep people. They just deemed desirable out.
keep people. They just deemed desirable out and landlords,
who want to, uh, keep the number of homes available
artificially low. So they can charge.
artificially low, so they can charge levels of rent that
border on extortion.
And butt pad their bottom lines. The last thing they want
is to compete with homeowners. Who will offer renters like
me?
me a better deal. This proposal is a common sense, change.
required to tackle our severe housing shortage and ensure
renters like myself can afford to stay in Chicago, please
vote. Yes. Thank you. And I just want to say, um, Bernett,
thank you so much for your service and congrats and good
luck with retirement or
luck with retirement, or your future endeavors, and good
luck to your son as well. Thank you.
Joshua then Francis l.
Joshua then. Francis lassio.
All right. Good morning everyone. My name is Joshua
chowder. I'm a 43rd Ward res.
chowder. I'm a 43rd. Ward resident. I live in the ranch.
Triangle area of Lincoln Park. I'm here today to express my
support for the 184.
support for the 1840, North marcey Street project,
ordinance 020.
ordinance 0202327.
ordinance 0202300 2763, I have lived on Clybourn Avenue for
5.
5 years. My rent has increased every year, I've lived there
and yet I can walk across the street and be surrounded by
Vacant buildings and empty parking lots. I joined the ranch
triangle.
triangle neighborhood association specifically because I
heard about the 1840 Marcy project and thought that that
area specifically needed some revitalization, the census
reported that the median age of ranch, try.
reported that the median age of ranch. Triangle residents
is 31.3 years old and I can tell you, since going to
meetings at the beginning of the year, I am the only 1 at
or below that age, that's not me.
or below that age. That's not me trying to be Aegis. I
actually was appointed to the board of ranch.
actually was appointed to the board of ranch, triangle
neighborhood association, but someone needs to be able to
add advocate for the renters within the community. I am a
neighbor who wants more neighborhoods and as 1 of the few
Ranch members who rents in an area, where the
Ranch members who rents in an area where the median home
price is 74.
price is 740,000. I tried 4 times to reach out to Alderman
Wags. Back to give my input and tell him.
Wags. Back to give my input and tell him why we need 1840
Marcy to be built. I received no reply each time.
Marcy to be built. I received no reply each time 25% of all
Ranch residents are aged 20 to 29 and that's more than a
thousand people total.
That is.
That is the next generation of community leaders and we can
no longer continue to exclude their voices and community.
no longer continue to exclude their voices and Community
input. On that topic, I'm happy to be here today with more
than 20 Advocates from abundant housing Illinois.
than 20 Advocates, from abundant housing, Illinois, and
strong towns, Chicago, many of them taking time.
strong towns. Chicago. Many of them taking time off of work
today to be here to support creating more
work. Today to be here to support creating more Homes at
1840, North Marcy adus. And
1840, North Marcy adus and parking mandates to end the
city's housing shortage. Thank you. Thank you.
Francis, you Francis, you may.
Francis, you Francis you may proceed followed by Allan
Ellis.
Hi. Um, my name is Francis. I'm a u.
Hi. Um, my name is Francis. I'm a UIC student. Um, and
right now, I'm speaking.
right now, I'm speaking in favor for laspadas, uh,
ordinance
now, I'm speaking in favor for laspadas uh ordinance for
Transit Orient development. Now, um,
Transit Orient development. Now. Um as a student I don't
make a lot of money. Um,
don't make a lot of money. Um, I'm spending most of my time
studying, um,
studying. Um, and right now, the rent prices are
studying, um, and right now the rent prices are raising at
astronomical rate. Um,
raising at astronomical rate. Um, our CTA is failing, the
fund, we have a
fund. We have a 770 million gap. Um, obviously,
fund. We have a 770 million gap, um, obviously you guys
know this is a problem, but let's, um, ordinance is right
on the money here. So,
on the money here. So it's already been tried and true and
a lot of other cities.
a lot of other cities Minneapolis I believe uh Portland
Oregon as well. A ton of other cities to lower the price of
rent, um, from the inflating values. And
rent, um, from the inflating values and it ALS gives the
opportunities for low-income people who cannot afford to
drive. Or if they have a disability that makes them unable
to drive. This is an ordinance that makes more housing and
in, uh, creates more abundance for
in uh, creates more abundance for our housing options. We
need housing options for everyone. Not just those who can
afford to drive a car. Now, as a student, I don't have
afford to drive a car. Now as a student, I don't have that
luxury. Um, and a lot of my friends are having trouble
finding housing and Linkin Park. My girlfriend's apartment.
I should after she's moving.
I should after she's moving there is over 50 people.
Who wanted to?
Who wanted to apply for her apartment. Um, people are
getting Cutthroat, they're outbidding each other and what
does that?
does that mean? That means the bottom line. If you're only
making 25,000 a year you're working, 18 dollars an hour.
making 25,000 a year, you're working 18, dollars an hour,
which is a lot of people, you cannot afford to live now
that our Transit is going to be cut by 40% the orange
Line's going to be gone.
Line's going to be gone, possibly a lot of the outer bus
lines. We're going to kill a lot of our business. Now this
Orden
ordinance is common sense. It will lower costs for
everybody. It will increase. Ridership, and I'll increase
the stability.
the stability and funding for our uh, public.
the stability and funding for our, uh, public Necessities.
We cannot choose car ownership.
We cannot choose car ownership over.
Thank you, Frank.
Thank you, Francis.
Allan Allan Ellis.
Followed by.
I think it's Caroline pavick.
and,
and uh, on uh
At 5.
At 5:25.
Go ahead, sir.
Go ahead sir. Good morning, excuse me. My name is Alan,
Ellis. I'm a renter in the 34th award. I'm speaking in
support of ordinance, 2025.
support of ordinance. 2025. Uh, 0015577. That's the
parking.
reform ordinance. Um I
reform ordinance. Um, I chose to move to Chicago last year
because it was a city that seemed, uh, like I could afford
to live in it and that didn't require me to drive a car
every single place I went. So, um, Chicago's very rare city
in America where it's possible to move around the city
without a car.
without a car reliably. Um, this ordinance,
without a car reliably. Um, this ordinance would help make
that a reality for even more people, so parking.
that a reality for even more people. So parking, uh,
mandates are requiring Developers.
mandates are requiring developers to build a number of
parking spots. That is not necessarily what's required in
that.
that area in that specific neighborhood. Um,
that area in that specific neighborhood. Um based on the
fact that not everyone needs a car at the
fact that not everyone needs a car. These parking
requirements were drawn up uh, a long time ago and our
regulations that are due to be refreshed. And
regulations that are due to be refreshed and frankly
lowered. So the burdensome regular
regulation of
Regulation of how many parking spots each Place requires
is?
making it more expensive to build housing across the city?
uh and is not necessarily something that is required. So
this ordinance is a common sense way to effectively lower
the cost of new housing, by giving develop.
the cost of new housing by giving developers the freedom to
build, uh, what people are actually asking.
build, uh, what people are actually asking for. Thank you.
so, after this young lady, it's been any
So after this young lady, it's been naggie.
Proceed ma'am.
Good morning. My name is Caroline.
Good morning. My name is Caroline Pavlick, and I'm a
resident of Linkin Park here to speak.
resident of Linkin Park here to speak in favor of creating
more housing in Chicago. I currently rent and I would love
to own a condo someday.
to own a condo someday near where I currently live. But
Rising housing costs are making
Rising housing costs. Are making that much more difficult.
I support efforts to densify and upzone Chicago to provide
more housing.
more housing and help stabilize housing costs.
I am here to a specialist support. The inclusionary zoning
application at 700 West, Chicago near 1 of my recurring
medical appointments.
medical appointments and 3 developments in Lincoln Park at
184.
1840. North Marcy 2600 North Clark Street.
1840. North Marcy 2600, North Clark Street and 251 North
Clark Street together. These developments would add over
3,000 new homes to a neighborhood in desperate. Need of
them where apartment show.
them. Where apartment showings have bidding wars and lines
out the door, on a regular.
out the door on a regular basis. They would also provide
hundreds of income.
hundreds of income, restricted, affordable, homes to people
who might not. Otherwise have the opportunity to live here.
Their locations near Transit will.
Their locations near Transit will mean that may residents
will be able to drive minim.
will be able to drive minimally or not at all rendering
traffic and parking complaints.
traffic and parking complaints move.
Our City's current zoning laws, make it difficult.
our City's current zoning laws, make it difficult to build
things that our community needs, Barack OB
things that our community needs. Barack Obama. Recently
said that, I don't care how much you love working people.
They can't afford a house because all the rules in your
state.
state make it prohibitive to build and Zoning prevents
multi-family structures because of nimi I don't want to
know your ideology because you can't build anything. It
does not matter.
Those who support affordable housing.
Those who support affordable housing and want to prevent
displacement should focus Less on.
displacement should focus Less on supporting such barriers
to housing and more on making it.
to housing and more on making it easier to build affordable
units, adus.
units, adus and other housing types accessible to
low-income residents
it is the city of Chicago's duty to develop the city in a
way that does not hinder its residents ability to access.
Basic needs, I urge you all to approve the 4 projects
mentioned earlier oppose down.
mentioned earlier oppose down zonings and support future
upzoning, and Zoning reform.
upzoning and Zoning reform. Thank you. Thank you.
Ben Maggie and then Michael.
Ben Maggie and then Michael Harris.
Hello, my name is Ben naggie. I'm a resident of the 39th
Ward. I'm here. Also to speak on the top.
Ward. I'm here also to speak on the topic of accessory.
Dwelling units, also known as ADD
Dwelling units, also known as adus and parking reform.
I am not going to spend a lot of time, reiterating the
points.
points that uh, a lot of my colleagues here have already.
reiterated. Uh, it seems to me like a no-brainer this
reiterated. Uh, it seems to me like a no-brainer. This city
has a housing crisis. We have a couple good.
has a housing crisis, we have a couple, good Solutions on
the table. And I want to see this committee take advantage
of that. This is something that has worked in other cities,
and this is something that can really Revitalize our city
and continue to, uh,
make us grow and
Make us grow and be prosperous. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Michael.
Michael Harris, followed by.
Lina.
S Sabin.
good morning, chairman and members of the committee, I'm
Michael Harris of the Illinois. Retail Merchants
Association. I want to begin by thanking the members of
this August body as well as the Departments.
this August body as well as the Departments of business
Affairs, consumer protection buildings.
Affairs, consumer protection, buildings Planning, and
Development law, and the mayor's office of
intergovernmental Affairs for their time and engagement
through.
throughout this process.
We also want to.
We also want to thank the administration for meeting with
us and our Coalition partners.
us and our Coalition Partners to work toward an ordinance
that balances the city's priorities.
that balances the city's priorities with the needs of the
business community.
while we don't agree on every detail and we do wish privacy
oriented businesses had been more directly
oriented businesses, had been more directly considered we
understand and support the core.
understand and support. The core purpose of this ordinance,
to help create Vib
to help create vibrant consistent and safe commercial
corridors.
corridors across Chicago.
We're.
we're especially if we are especially appreciative that
We're especially if we are especially appreciative that the
city listened to our concerns and made changes in responds.
city listened to our concerns and made changes in response.
Because of that collaborative, effort, the Illinois.
Because of that collaborative effort, the Illinois retail
Merchants Association is neutral on the final.
Merchants Association is neutral on the final version of
The Substitute Windows, sign ordinance.
lastly, I want to recognize and thank our Co
Lastly, I want to recognize and thank our Coalition
Partners who have been strong thoughtful.
Partners who have been strong thoughtful voices throughout
this process the Illinois restaurants association.
The Chicago Association of Realtors.
Hospitality Business Association of Chicago.
The Chicago land Chamber of Commerce.
Building owners and Managers Association of Chicago.
Building owners and Managers Association of Chicago Wine
and Spirits, wine and spirit distributors.
and Spirits, wine and spirit, Distributors of Illinois.
Federated Alliance of Illinois.
Federated Alliance of Illinois, independent Realtors.
You University of Chicago Law.
You University of Chicago Law IJ Center of
Entrepreneurship, small business.
Entrepreneurship, small business advocacy Council, the
Illinois hotel and Lodging Association.
Illinois hotel and Lodging Association, the Magnificent
Mile Association and the Illinois.
Mile Association, and the Illinois Chamber of Commerce. We
are proud to have stood together in this effort and remain
committed to working with the city to ensure Pollock.
committed to working with the city to ensure policies that
support the economic Vitality of all neighborhoods, across
the city. And lastly, to the
the city. And lastly to the chair, thank you for 30 years
of your service to this resident.
of your service to the residents of Chicago. Thank you.
thank you. Uh, we like to acknowledge, uh, alderman
Alderman clay.
Alderman, clay for the corn.
and Alderman can
And alderman kanu for the corn. So
Go. Proceed ma'am. And after
Good morning. I'm here in support of kadal is after her go
ahead. Good.
ahead. Good morning, I'm hearing in support of the
ordinance, eliminating Park.
ordinance, eliminating parking minimums near Transit. I
live on the corner of
on the corner of Fullerton and Clark while my apartment
offers some on-site parking.
offers some on-site parking, I and many other young people
who live there. Don't need it. Instead we make use of the 6
bus lines that stop just a few yards from the front door.
Or the train.
Or the train stopped. Just a few blocks west. This
ordinance would give developers the
would give developers the ability to add housing in
desirable transit-rich neighbor.
in desirable transit-rich neighborhoods, like mine without
being constrained by outdated parking.
being constrained by outdated, parking requirements,
reducing the cost of building and making rents.
reducing the cost of building and making rents cheaper as a
result stringent parking mandates. Make housing more
expensive research has revealed that above ground parking
in. Chicago can cost up to 29.
in. Chicago can cost up to 29,000 per space and raise rents
by.
by 17% the on driving up costs these mandates.
by 17% Beyond driving up costs. These mandates can make
developments on smaller Parcels of land completely.
impossible, even when potential tenants don't need or
impossible. Even when potential tenants don't need or want
a parking space because there's not enough room to add a
parking lot. This ordinance doesn't take away the ability.
to build parking, but it does give developers the
flexibility to make to build. What makes sense in your
Transit stations and bus lines where people are
Transit stations and bus lines, where people are less
likely to own cars in the first place.
Reduce parking, minimum support environmental
sustainability.
by promoting walkable transit-oriented neighborhoods, which
neighborhoods, which reduce pollution and environmental
harm, they make it possible.
harm. They make it possible for smaller, more affordable,
housing types to be built near job centers and Community
amenities increasing
amenities, increasing socioeconomic diversity and family
flourishing
Flourishing, please support this ordinance and let our city
grow closer to affordability equity and sustainability.
Thank you.
Monica kadia.
The.
The good morning everyone. My name is milica coral.
The good morning everyone. My name is milica. I am a
resident from Ward 1 and I'm here to speak in favor.
resident from Ward 1 and I'm here to speak in favor of
creating more housing in Chicago.
creating more housing. In Chicago. I support the ordinance
to legalize accessory, dwelling units,
to legalize accessory dwelling units, also known as adus
across the city.
As a Chicago resident, I've gone through the Housing
search. As we all have, we can all agree that it's not
easy.
search. As we all have, we can all agree that it's not easy
and every year it's it's not getting any easier. I want to
support legislation that makes it easier for
support legislation, that makes it easier for Chicagoans to
have access to housing and add
have access to housing. And adus are a great approach,
their climate.
their climate friendly, they're more energy efficient, they
make it easier,
make it easier for families to stay close to 1 another
across multiple.
across multiple Generations. They make it easier for
families to have more control over how they want to grow
their home. Edios, were a key player in providing
Chicagoans with housing in the
with housing in the past. Why should we stop? They should
be a part of our future, too.
overall, I'm excited to be a part of a better future for
Chicago and I think legalizing accessory dwelling units
will be a great step to make more housing a reality now.
Thank you. Thank you.
Get you Robinson.
Followed by Paul.
Followed by Paul Joyce.
You guys.
You guys are doing very good. We're getting close.
Getting a Robinson. Did I say?
Getting a Robinson. Did I say, Katie Robinson about 80
years about
about Adu off of, um,
Okay. Go ahead Robinson. Yeah, I don't want to get your
whole address. Good morning, good morning. Uh, my name is
whole address. Good morning, good morning. Uh my name is
Kaylin. I come to you as an organizer.
Kaylin. I come to you as an organizer metal, worker and
neighbor. And I am here to say,
neighbor. And I am here to say that we need housing, the
city is unaffordable. Adus are called light.
city is unaffordable, adus are called, light touch density.
If you were to take a picture of a city, block in The
Bungalow belt today, and compare it to a photo of the same
block after
block. After every house added an Adu, or even 2.
block. After every house added an Adu or even 2. You would
look back and forth from 1 to the other.
look back and forth from 1 to the other and say it's the
same picture.
This does nothing to decrease the character of the
neighborhood.
neighborhood, the height scale, or mass of the built
environment.
environment is conserved all while unwinding some of the
worst excesses of exclusionary zoning that have given us
hyper segregation.
hyper segregation wealth disparities and a housing crisis.
Adus. Use existing.
Adus use existing infrastructure and existing land. They
increase.
increase property values and wealth they cause less.
pollution than building from scratch. With new materials.
The Adu pilot has taught us.
The Adu pilot has taught us that additional permitting and
eligibility requirements.
eligibility requirements, hobble this effort and recreate
disparities that keep families on the south west and south
Southeast sides from being given the same opportunities.
Southeast sides from being given the same opportunities to
build wealth, and increase Supply, our housing crisis
hurts. So many in our city and
hurts. So many in our city, and keeps folks, in a cycle of
housing, insecurity of working to fix this problem. We
clean up encampments by trashing people's tents and
belongings. And
belongings and displacing the people in the encampments. We
see our vulnerable,
see our vulnerable neighbors facing misery on the street,
when there are concrete, beautiful and sustainable ways to
add more units of housing, it's time to move away from the
toxic history.
toxic history of exclusionary zoning. That has plagued our
city and helped families, fortify their neighborhoods as
they exist. It is our responsibility to dramatically
increase the supply of housing in Chicago. Don't let the
same fears that created this crisis.
Thank you. We like to acknowledge alderman.
Thank you. We like to acknowledge Alderman Puentes for the
Quorum. Uh, so Paul Joyce and then at the Paul is Cal
Lucas.
Good morning, I'm Paul.
Good morning, I'm Paul Joyce. I live in Ward 5. Um, I'm a
housing.
housing policy professional, but I'm here today, speaking
in my personal Capac,
in my personal capacity, in support of the Adu ordinance,
the parking.
the parking reform ordinance and the north Marcy
development. Um, others have made great points on all of
these so I'll keep it short and sweet. The city has
these, so I'll keep it short and sweet. The city has uh,
housing affordability crisis, and a budget crisis.
housing affordability crisis, and a budget crisis, and we
can make progress on both fronts at the same time.
can make progress on both fronts at the same time without
spending a dime of public funds by
spending a dime of public funds, by making it making it
easier to build housing.
Building more housing. Um, generates economic activ.
Building more housing. Um, generates economic activity. It
improves housing affordability, it directly.
improves, housing affordability, it directly increases
property values and therefore, property tax.
property values and therefore property taxes, which reduces
the burden on the rest of us. So, I strongly support these
as a small steps in the right direction. The city has much
more to do on building more housing. I live in a 4 flat, it
was an affordable entry point.
was an affordable entry point to home ownership for my
family. I'd love to see brand new four flats built all
across the city, because mine is
across the city because mine is 130 years old. So I look
forward to the committee approving. These policies today
and doing much more in the future. Thank you.
At the at the Cow.
At the, at the cow is going to be la krisha.
At the, at the cow is going to be La krisha Bang.
Sorry if I mess up your name.
Please go ahead. Good morning, everyone. Uh, my name is
Kyle, Lucas. I am the EXE.
Kyle, Lucas. I am the executive director of better Street
Chicago. And today, I am,
Chicago. And today, I am here to speak in favor of lowering
parking.
parking eliminating parking minimums in Chicago, as well as
building more housing and adus, are a great way to be able
to increase our housing stock in Chicago. Um, I won't be
belabor the point but I want to add again that
belabor the point, but I want to add again that by
mandating parking next to Transit. We are
parking next to Transit. We are jacking up the prices of
building new housing in Chicago, and we're also reducing
the space where we can actually have homes instead of
storage for cars. Um, honestly I would rather have more
people in my neighborhood than more cars. I think this is a
logical step for us to take.
logical step for us to take if Austin Texas with
dramatically.
dramatically, less spark, uh, dramatically less Transit
access than Chicago, can do it. Um, then we can too if the
than Chicago, can do it. Um, then we can too, if the
bustling Metropolis of Rogers, Arkansas can do it. I think
Chicago can pull it off. So, let's
let's go ahead and eliminate these arbitrary restrictions
and allow us to build more housing, more affordably next to
trans.
Transit. Um, and let's add options.
Transit. Um, and let's add options for people to be able to
build different types of housing in Chicago.
On a personal note, I moved into my apartment that I'm now
in in the 33rd Ward.
in in the 33rd Ward about just a little over a year ago.
Um, I was having a really hard time finding an apartment in
Chicago.
Chicago and I myself was 5 days away from being unhoused
because I couldn't get a viewing for an apartment. Our
housing shortage is such a real crisis in Chicago and we
need more housing so that more people can live here and 1
other point. If this body is not worried about,
other point. If this body is not worried about Federal
redistricting in the face of us, being able to fight
against the ravages of fascism. I, I really need you all to
take a gut check and look at how we are. Um, restricting
the supply of housing in places like Chicago,
the supply of housing in places, like Chicago, thank you so
much.
Okay.
Lria.
Okay. And then at the lria, the last 1 would be the the C.
t.
Sorry if I messed up your name. Did I do? Okay. Thank you.
Hi, my name is Luke.
Hi. My name is Luke CIA, Bankston. Um, I'm a uh residential
residential owner and the rezoning of uh, 79th Street. Uh,
my priority is actually to make sure that there's
transparency, still still being held to accountability. Um,
actually I uh just want to see the re revitalization.
actually I, uh, just want to see the re revitalization of
the neighborhood. Uh, I don't want to be
neighborhood. Uh, I don't want to be uh cost out of
anything I want. The
anything. I want the seniors to be uh protected.
anything. I want the seniors to be uh protected in whatever
falls through here. Um, and I'm just asking that as a
residential, uh, privacy owner. Um, I'm not actually hack.
hacking anything. I don't, I don't have any, uh, political
issues with this uh, 1 way or the other.
issues with this uh, 1 way or the other, but I think that
people need to know that seniors are still residents of the
community and they need to be having their households uh,
looked at before
um,
things.
things just fall apart.
We are.
We are a people.
Of respectability. We need to be accountable for everything
that happens.
um, let's fight for the things that we need to have to stay
still in our community and gentrify it the way it should
be.
That's pretty much it and I appreciate your time.
Thank you.
Number 21.
Please proceed.
Um, good morning. My name is tasnim tanveer. I live in the
34th.
34th Ward and I strongly support creating more housing in
Chicago. I support the 18.
Chicago. I support the 1840 North marcey Street project or
n.
n o uh 2023 0000
n o uh, 2023 0000027 63 that will.
n o uh, 2023 0000027 63 that will build.
600 new homes.
600 new homes in a highly desirable neighborhood.
When?
When I first came to Chicago over a decade ago, my husband
worked downtown, and I worked in the suburbs.
worked downtown, and I worked in the suburbs, and we were
really thankful that we live.
really thankful that we lived near Transit and that we
could live without a car.
and also that we didn't have to spend a
And also that we didn't have to spend a huge amount of
money on our on our rent.
money on our, on our rent. That allowed us to save money
and later we were able to purchase a home. And
and later, we were able to purchase a home and start a
family.
Nowadays people are finding it harder and harder to afford.
rent because of our extreme housing shortage.
rent because of our extreme housing shortage shortage
building 1840. North Marc.
building 1840, North marcey will allow many people to live
near Transit and economize on transportation and it will
allow young people to set down roots in Chicago just like I
did.
um,
we need more homes. We cannot afford.
we need more homes. We cannot afford to lose opportunity to
get housing actually.
to get housing actually built in the name of preserving a
to get housing actually built in the name of preserving, a
vacant Warehouse, we cannot afford to prioritize traffic.
Over people being able
over people, being able to live here. We cannot afford to
lose out on tax revenue by pricing people out. Let us
instead approve.
instead approve 18 North Marcy and pass all measures.
instead approve. 18 North Marcy and pass all measures that
will make it easier to actually build homes. Thank you.
Thank you, everyone.
Now would be, we will be moving.
Now would be, we will be moving on.
We will now read the items.
We will now read the items to be deferred. I will read the
page.
page number and the description and then take a motion.
page number and the description and then take a motion for
all at the end.
We are going to start on page 1. Document number 02020,
We are going to start on page 1 document number 0202025,
Dash 00000.
Dash 0000182 020209.
Dash 0000182 020209 modifying standards for parking
Parkway.
trees.
Stand on page 1. The bottom of the page document number
0202.
0202400 1, 09.
0202400 1 0 9, 5 9.
0202400 1. 09592
0202400 1, 09595 file number 22785 for the address.
0202400 1, 09595 file number 22785 for the address commonly
known as 1719.
commonly known as 1719 d25 West, Chicago Avenue,
Moving on to the middle of Page 6. File number 2278 dt1.
Moving on to the middle of Page 6. File number 2278 dt1 for
the address commonly known as 1616 West 17th Street.
moving on to,
Moving on to page 12 page 12213.
Moving on to page 12 page, 12213 contains 22nd Ward.
automatic ordinances regarding the area.
automatic ordinances regarding the area of 31st and Kedzie.
including files, a d-9
including files, a dash 900000890000990 1090119012 and 90.
9013.
So, can we call?
So can we call Brian hacker right now, from the Department
of planning and development?
Uh, you could have spoke from their hack.
Uh, you could have spoke from their hacker.
Okay yes, thank you chair.
Okay. Yes, thank you. Chairman
Uh, yeah, we would like to request that the 2.
Uh yeah, we would like to request that the 22nd word item
for the rezoning of the 31.
for the rezoning of the 31st in kedzi uh area be deferred
to, the September committee on zoning meeting.
September 16th. So we going to defer that to a date certain
of September.
16.
16, thank you. Thank you. Okay.
16, thank you. Thank you. Okay, now we're moving on to page
13.
13 through 16 contains various automatic and DED.
13 through 16 contains various automatic and deduct in
induced map amendments in the 46.
induced map amendments in the 46, 47 and 48. Ward, all to
be deferred this include files number.
be deferred this include files, number A- 89868,
be deferred this include files number A- 898689738974897
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897589768977894 89955.
897589768977894 899558978897989 80898.
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And a-900.
And a-9 0009001.
And a-9 0009001 and lastly, 90.
And a-9 0009001. And lastly, 902, we have Katrina.
And a-9 0009001 and lastly, 902 we have Katrina heard. I'm
sorry Katherine
sorry. Katherine heard of the Department of planning and
development.
Development to speak. Further on this request, please
Katherine.
We would like to request deferral to.
We would like to request deferral to the October committee
on zoning meeting for the ordinances for the 46, 47th and
40th.
40th, wart
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you. Those items would be deferred to the
October.
October meeting, yep. Sorry, the October meeting.
October meeting. Sorry. The October meeting. Thank you. Um,
Vice chair Lawson. Moved that the previous read, automatic
ordinances in the 4647 and 48. Ward.
ordinances in the 4647 and 48. Ward will be deferred to a
date certain of October 14th. Um all in favor.
date certain of October 14th. Um, all in favor signify by
saying, I all opposing opinion.
saying I all opposing opinion of the chair is the eyes have
it moving on to the rest of the page.
have it moving on to the rest of the page. 16 include foul.
Number 22,
number 22776 for the common address of
1746. West edmire.
1746. West edmire Street, which has been withdrawn.
file number 22788 for the,
File number 22788, for the common address of 3642.
File number 22788, for the common address of 3642, -3652
West North Avenue.
Finn.
finally, all of page 17, including
Finally, all of page 17, including file number 22779 for the
address, commonly known as 4100.
address, commonly known as 410008 West Belmont.
the address, commonly known as 410008 West Belmont file,
number 22777,
number 22777 dt1 for the address, commonly known as 45645.
Number 22777 dt1 for the address, commonly known as 456-458
West Wrightwood Avenue,
And lastly, file number.
and lastly, file number 22789 dt1 for the
And lastly, file number 22789 dt1 for the address commonly
known as 3122.
known as 3122 West Belmont Avenue.
Alderman, kuehn makes a motion to defer the previous listed
items.
items noting that the automatic ordinances in the 4647 and
48 war will be deferred to a day.
48 war will be deferred to a date. Certain of
October 14th.
October 14th 2025 and the 22nd.
October 14th 2025 and the 22nd W items and the 27 W 22nd.
October 14th 2025 and the 22nd W items and the 27 W 22nd W
items which will be deferred to
September committee date.
September 16th 16th of 20.
September 16th, 16th of 2025 all in favor. Signify by
saying, I
All opposing opinion of the chair.
All opposing opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the
items are deferred.
the items are deferred. We will now move on to the agenda.
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so, 2025000008918 a
So 2025000008918, a text Amendment introduced by Vice
chair.
Larson.
that immense,
That immense Municipal Code, title, 2 and 7.
That immense Municipal, Code, title 2 and 7 regarding
conversion, units and Coach houses.
This item has a substitute ordinance. All committee members
will find a copy of the ordinance in the package. Before
you
Alderman, Larson makes a motion to accept the substitute
ordinance all in favor. Signify by saying, I
all oppose and the opinion of the chair.
all oppose and the opinion of the Cherry ice, have it?
um,
the, the
the sub.
The Substitute ordinance is before us. Yes, sir.
And um, you read off.
And um, you read off, uh, s02.
And um you read off uh s02. And we're on 2 24th, correct?
I read that was my title alderman.
I read. That was my title Alderman. I apologize. Okay, you
did say 255. So I just want to make sure we are. We're
correct on the record.
24.
You're it's alright. It was my typo in your script.
Okay, so should we vote?
Okay, so should we vote to amend that? Or just correct? Your
language. I would just read it.
language? I would just read it into the record correctly.
Okay. Oh, you okay.
Okay, I got it. All right. Thank Alderman man. Thank
Okay, I got it. All right, thank Alderman, man. Thank you
very much, appreciate you. Um,
so,
Alderman Lawson.
Great. Uh, thank you chair. Uh and I appreciate my
colleagues. Uh
colleagues uh conversations uh in the last few weeks in the
last few years.
the last few years on this item. Um we have made several
the last few years, on this item. Um, we have made several
changes to help, uh, address some of the concerns.
changes to help, uh, address some of the concerns that we
heard, especially from lower density districts.
heard, especially from lower density districts, including
uh, limits and home ownership.
uh, limits and Home Ownership requirements. We've also
added additional transparency.
added additional transparency and data reporting. Um, and
so what I'd like to do is turn it over to the team from the
Department of Housing. Um but before I do that I just want
to thank um again my colleagues uh the folks from housing
dpd buildings.
dpd buildings, IGA. Um and I want to thank you chairman uh,
for 30 years of service. Let me do that before I forget as
well. And, uh, being able to learn from you, uh,
well and uh, being able to learn from you uh, and the time
we've been together uh on that committee. So thank. Thank
you very much. Thank you. Thank you from from me being able
to learn from you sir. Um, so before I allow allow you to
speak Alderman, uh, I'd like to allow for uh Edwin
speak Alderman, uh, I'd like to allow for uh, Edwin Ortiz
Reyes.
from, um,
The oh, he's a policy.
The, oh, he's a policy, anise analyst, and, and Deputy
Commissioner.
Commissioner Matt Stearns from the Department of planning.
If you both have something to say in regards to this,
Thank you, chairman.
Thank you. Are you gonna do a
Thank you. Are you going to do a presentation? Yes. Okay,
thank you. Let's do a presentation. Almond. Is that okay?
And then we can talk. Okay, thank you.
Okay, definitely. Thank you for the record. My name is Matt
Stern. I'm a Deputy Commissioner at the Department of
Housing and I'm joined on my right by Edwin Ortiz Reyes.
Uh, senior policy, analyst of the Department of Housing,
our presentation,
Our presentation today is a, a brief summary of aldermen.
Lawson's, substitute ordinance, as uh, just discussed.
so first
To begin and, uh, for the record.
to begin and uh for the record, I'm now joined by
commissioner lack cetta of the Department of Housing on my
left.
Um, to begin.
adus across the country have
adus across the country, have emerged in the last 5 to 10
years as a creative and adaptable solution to housing
needs.
needs, enabling Property Owners around the country.
needs, enabling Property, Owners around the country to, uh,
transform underutilized areas like basements attics,
garages backyards.
garages backyards, Etc, into livable spaces adding Ghent.
garages backyards, Etc, into livable spaces, adding gentle
density um and vibrancy to communities.
density um and vibrancy to communities and cities around
the country in Chicago.
the country. In Chicago Alderman Lawson's, Adu expansion
ordinance in front of you now,
ordinance in front of you. Now aims to help alleviate
Chicago's very, very large,
Chicago's very, very large 120,000 units and growing
housing.
housing, shortage, and support of
portability while
portability, while also empowering Property Owners uh, to
maximize uh, the value and utility of their home. Um so
Uh, with that in mind, I have a few slides.
Uh, with that in mind, I have a few slides summarizing. Uh,
the ordinance in front of you.
first for,
First for clarity per the municipal code. Uh,
First for clarity per the municipal code, uh, adus or
additional dwelling units, uh, as we call them.
additional dwelling units, uh, as we call them, uh, are
comprised of 2 different.
comprised of 2, different types of uh dwelling units, uh,
per the zoning.
the zoning code. Uh 1 is a Coach House, this is an
accessory.
accessory building uh typically located on the the rear
portion of a lot, um, uh, meeting the requirements of
section 1790201 DF. Uh, and then the other category of Adu,
um, uh, is
is known as a conversion unit. It's typically uh, you know,
thought of as a, a granny flat or or any of a number of
other such uh, colloquial names.
number of other such, uh, colloquial names, uh, this refers
to a unit, uh, that is located within a principle, uh,
residential
Residential Building. Uh that has uh been in lawful
existence for 20 years or more. It must be established. Uh,
in accordance with the 2, uh, uh, zoning.
in accordance with the 2, uh, uh, zoning code sections that
you see in that bottom right box. Uh, and as has been
stated
Earlier uh, conversion units, uh, do not change.
Earlier uh conversion units, uh do not change the the outer
Dimensions or appearance of a house at all.
Dimensions or appearance of a house at all they're
occurring. Uh, typically within a basement,
occurring. Uh, typically within a basement uh or attic uh,
of an existing uh, physical
uh, of an existing, uh, physical space.
The Substitute ordinance in front of you would expand the
current uh program which exists
current uh, program, which exists uh, in 5 pilot zones
around the city. Uh, and it would allow adus, uh,
throughout residential zoning, districts around the city.
It would also allow for
it would also allow for adus in B C1 and
It would also allow for adus in B C1 and C2 districts uh,
with specific.
with specific Provisions in non B2 districts.
with specific Provisions in, non B2 districts, that would
allow conversion units. Uh, in
allow conversion units uh in uh ground floor areas. Only if
40% of the ground floor fronting the public way.
if 40% of the ground floor fronting the public way, uh, is
occupied by a commercial use
In addition, uh, the sub.
in addition, uh, The Substitute ordinance creates uh,
limitations on the number of uh pre-certification.
limitations on the number of uh pre-certification uh which
is a step that the department of
which is a step that the Department of Housing takes prior
to an applicant seeking a building permit, to construct an
Adu, uh, this limit is applied, uh, per block.
Adu, uh, this limit is applied, uh, per block face and
opposing block face per year.
opposing block face per year, and the maximum number of
pre-certification, uh, ranges, uh, based on the
pre-certification, uh, ranges. Uh, based on the zoning
District in rs1, it would be 1.
District in rs1, it would be 1 per block face and a closing
block face.
Per.
Per year in rs2, it would be 2 per year.
Per year in rs2, it would be 2 per year and an RS3. It would
be 3 per year.
This.
This limit may be lifted via ordinance.
This limit may be lifted via ordinance for any geography
equal to or, uh,
equal to, or, uh, larger than 1 block, face and opposing
block face,
in addition, this ordinance creates
In addition, this ordinance creates a homeowner occupancy
requirement for detached.
requirement for detached houses seeking to build adus.
requirement for detached houses seeking to build adus, uh,
regardless of the zoning District in which that,
regardless of the zoning District in which that detached
house is located. This limit also,
house is located. This limit Also may be lifted via
ordinance for any geograph.
ordinance for any geography equal to or larger than a block
face.
face and opposite block face.
This.
this ordinance, uh, uh, uh, makes a number of smaller
adjustments to the code uh, after
adjustments to the code. Uh, after studying the outcomes of
the, uh, pilot program,
the, uh, pilot program for the last 4 years, including
allowing for administrative adjustments, from the zoning
administrator.
administrator uh to allow for reduction and parking space
requirements when
requirements. When building coach houses
There are.
there are also further minor changes to
There are also further minor changes to Coach House size
and separation restrictions.
and separation restrictions uh including uh lifting the 700
Square.
square foot uh, floor area maximum for a
square foot, uh, floor area maximum for a coach house and
modifying the separation requirement.
modifying the separation requirement, that currently exists
in the code between the principal building and the Coach
House to allow, uh, that
House to allow uh that separation requirement to be
marginally reduced via administrative adjustment only.
On certain Lots.
this, or
This ordinance extends, uh, certain regulations
This ordinance extends uh certain regulations around MLA
and open space requirements. Uh,
and open space requirements uh where they already exist in
our districts to be.
our districts to B and C districts. It restricts coach
houses.
houses uh to the rear 30 ft of a property in b.
houses uh to the rear 30 ft of a property in B and C
districts, and it continues to require the coach houses in
our districts comply with existing open.
our districts comply with existing open space requirements.
It also continues the Pollock.
It also continues the policy of uh mandating the open.
It also continues the policy of uh mandating the open space
impact fee. Uh,
impact fee uh be applied to coach houses of the time of
building permit.
a number of things that
A number of things that are not changing from the pilot to
this ordinance include.
this ordinance include maintaining the affordability
requirements. Uh, this uh policy retains the current
requirement.
requirement mandating that in the uh, unusual circumstance.
that a property, is seeking to build multiple adus that
second be offered at an affordable rate.
second be offered at an affordable rate, uh, at 60% Ami.
uh, the existing prohibition on the use of
Uh, the existing prohibition on the use of adus for
short-term rentals is retained. Uh,
short-term rentals is retained. Uh it has uh been in the
code since the pilot was created and would apply to all
adus across the city uh in in the event of this ordinance.
this passage
Uh, this ordinance also.
uh, this ordinance also creates a new reporting requirement,
um, under
um under uh the text of this ordinance, the Department of
Housing.
Housing will be obligated to provide an annual report to
this body.
this body regarding the number and distribution of
pre-certification and building permits for adus.
pre-certification, and building permits for adus. Again,
that's going to be on an annual basis.
and uh, this ordinance authorizes do
and uh, this ordinance authorizes, do to create a grant
program to assist with Adu development, specifically for
low-income house.
low-income households. So you can build a to use or
households who are seeking to construct affordable adus.
With that, I will.
With that, I will conclude my uh brief remarks. Thank you.
Thank you. Any questions about the body? Almond Larson? I I
just want to add a few more notes on that and thank you,
Matt. Um,
Matt. Um again we've come to this compromise after working
with
working with my colleagues. Uh, largely in lower density
areas hearing
hearing their concerns uh and doing what we can to to to
craft.
to, to craft an ordinance. Um, it is actually I believe,
uh, has better limits
has better limits than where we started. Um, we're talking
about the R3 zones. We're
talking about the R3 zones, we're talking about home
ownership. Um, again, I
again, I we know from the pilot that uh,
Very rarely. Do you see 2 On a Block? Um, I have 1 block
with 2 in the 5 years in my
with 2 in the 5 years. In my ward, 38 units were created,
um,
and, uh, less than half of those were coach houses. So,
And, uh, less than half of those were coach houses. So, um,
the point of this ordinance is to add gentle density.
the point of this ordinance is to add gentle density into
spaces that already exists to help to begin to address our
housing crisis, which requires us to build units of all
types, small medium.
types, small medium, large, affordable Market rates, and
tomorrow's naturally.
tomorrow's naturally occurring affordable, which many adus
will be. I want to emphasize that we continue. The
will be. I want to emphasize that we continue the band on
short-term rentals. This is housing for Chicago.
short-term rentals. This is housing for Chicagoans not for
visitors. Um, and that, uh, any parking wave would be done
so with, uh,
So with, uh, consultation of the aldermen and immediate
Neighbors,
neighbors, um,
With that I uh again thank everybody.
with that I uh again thank everybody involved so far and
happy to answer your questions and ask for your support.
Thank you chair. Thank you. Um, so I'll be remiss if I did
not thank you.
not thank you alderman for, uh, being very considerate
working with all of the alderman. Um,
working with all of the alderman, um, and coming up with
some compromises. I know everybody's not going to be happy,
but I think you put forth a good effort and been very
patient. I think you introduced this how long ago 2 years
ago,
ago. So I just want to thank you for your patience and and
also thank you.
also thank you for your consideration and working with the
other aldermen and making adjustments and changes. So I
just want to commend you on that. Um and let's see where it
go Alderman. Um,
Thank you. Chairman Bernett. Um,
Thank you, chairman Bernett. Um, 1 of the biggest housing
issues facing constituents in the 35,
issues facing constituents in the 35th. Ward is the loss of
naturally occurring, affordable housing.
naturally occurring, affordable housing stock through,
through the Demolition and deconversion of our Legacy 2 to
floor Flats, which are the primary source of lower cost
housing for low. And
housing for low and moderate income families.
allowing additional units to
Allowing additional units to be added to existing building
is a valuable tool.
is a valuable tool to incentivize the preservation of these
buildings, as
buildings as multi family housing and maintain the lower
cost running.
cost running to housing that families in my ward rely on.
allowing additional units within existing buildings is
consistent with other policies. We've implemented in the
35th. Ward like the northwest side Northwest side housing.
preservation ordinance, which seeks to preserve the
affordable.
affordable 2 to 4 flat housing stock through a search
charge and demolition.
charge and demolition permits and minimum density zoning
provisions.
Many constituents come into my office, who perch.
many constituents come into my office who purchase 2 to 4
Flats, uh, with the basement unit that they didn't realize
was illegal or in permitted, then years later.
was illegal or in permitted. Then years later they get a
building violation and have to either remove the the unit
or have to hire a zoning attorney to help them get a Zahn.
or have to hire a zoning attorney to help them get a zoning
change to bring the unit into compliance.
change to bring the unit into compliance often times. These
owners depend on the income from these units.
owners depend on the income from these units to pay their
mortgage and pack taxes. And maint
mortgage and pack taxes, and maintain the property. These
unpermitted units often provide housing for family members
or vulnerable renters who
or vulnerable renters. Who would otherwise struggle to find
housing in the 35th Ward?
I also have many constituents who are longtime moderate
income, homeowners or seniors on a fixed income.
income homeowners or seniors on a fixed income. Who
struggle to keep up with property, taxes and other Rising
costs, the ability to rent out a basement.
costs, the ability to rent out a basement attic or Coach
House. Could help these Property Owners afford to
House. Could help. These Property Owners afford to stay in
their homes and in their communities.
but let us also be clear, that adus are not a silver bullet
for affordable for housing affordability. And I don't think
anyone is saying that and that is why we must absolutely be
looking to all.
looking to all available tools like the tenant right of
first refusal and neighborhoods with high rates of
displacement, for example but
displacement, for example, but there are also absolutely a
tool that we should be utilizing.
tool that we should be utilizing to add housing that fits
the character of The Neighborhood Housing.
the character of The Neighborhood Housing stock. I will be
voting in the affirmative. Thank you.
Thank you. Uh, I'll Alderman Anthony bill.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman
Mr. Chairman I um, uh, let me just say I do appreciate the
effort that has gone into
bringing this ordinance, um, but I still think
Bringing this ordinance. Um, but I still think that it is a
bad piece of legislation.
and,
and reason I say that, uh, even the current Amendment
and reason I say that, uh, even the current amendments that
were put in place uh 1 additional in R1 to additional and
R2 and 3.
R2 and 3 additional and R3. Um but when you look at that
when you look at Wars like mine where y'all have you know,
when you look at Wars like mine where y'all have, you know,
5, 600 blocks if you do 2,
5, 600 blocks if you do 2 per block, oh there we go, we got
1600.
1600 units in 1 year.
in our,
In our community.
and to now,
You can keep it in your community, not mine.
So, so the thing is,
So so the thing is and to have this done by right without
automatic approval, I don't know what Alderman and they
right now, want to give up that Authority.
I don't know who we're going to do that.
okay to to, to take
Okay, to, to, to take away zoning that your community.
Okay, to, to, to take away zoning that your community is
asking Their audience. Why do we get elected if we're not?
there to protect our community?
Okay. I'm I'm trying to protect my community and
Okay, I'm I'm trying to protect my community and by doing
this by, right, without
this by right without automatic approval, doesn't help me
control my community.
now, you know if
Now, you know, if a person wants to go ahead and do all
this, you know?
you know, control rentals and convert addicts and and and
um and basement
let me just say,
This.
this ordinance was
create this.
create This Disaster was created, okay and it was created
when we allowed 50,000 migrants to
When we allowed 50,000 migrants to come to the city of
Chicago,
Okay. And
Okay, and now we want to say oh, we have a housing crisis.
Oh,
Oh absolutely. We do. We got it because we created it.
okay, and now we want to
continue to spend $40.
Continue to spend $40 million a month on migrants.
and now, we want to just give people housing
And now we want to just give people housing by right
without control.
What are we doing here? We're creating with, we're creating
housing for people who are not even paying taxes in this
city. So,
city. So they're not even going to be able to contribute to
the
Please, please let us hear the speaker. Go ahead, sir. So
these people are not even going to contribute to the 1.7.
billion dollar deficit. We have that's going to fall on the
people of the city of Chicago.
Okay, so when are we protecting the people that's already
here?
When are we protecting the people who are fighting for a
better quality of life? Here in this city of Chicago?
Okay.
so,
so this this, you know,
So this this, you know, disaster that has been created.
Now, we have an emergency
we have an emergency, we need to start doing all these
things. This is like my all colleague said, this is the
first step to doing away with zoning.
first step to doing away with zoning here in the city of
Chicago.
Okay.
okay, so if you all want to continue to go down,
Okay, so if you all want to continue to go down this Rabbit
Hole, go ahead. We are destroying.
Hole, go ahead. We are destroying this city, systematically
by the current leadership. That is running this city down
the rabbit hole and
the rabbit hole. And we need to stop it, and we need to
stop it now. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and I will be
stop it now. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I will be voting.
No, and if we want to create housing, let me just say this.
And I've said this and I know the commission has heard me
say this before. I've been trying to get tax credits for
300 units.
300 units in my war that I can't get no help from this
Administration.
Administration you want to talk about affordable housing,
help me get those 3.
Help me get those 3, 300 units on the books.
That's already there. It's a building. That's vacant 300
units. We don't need 80u.
We need the commissioner to help me with those 300 units.
So I hope she's over here. Listening
that that's
that, that's what we need. That's how you create housing.
You don't create housing by giving people.
You don't create housing by giving people buy right to
convert their addicts and their basements.
convert their addicts and their basements into affordable
housing because I'm going to tell you what's going to end
up happening. If you don't have
up happening, if you don't have Ingress, and egress, the
minute, you have a fire and they can't get out 1 way, and
we have a disaster. They going to say they going to sue the
city and say. Well, the
city and say, well, the city approved this, these people
didn't have Ingress and egress because they converted a
basement into an Adu. Thank you Mr. Chairman
Thank thank. Thank you.
Thank thank. Thank you Alderman. Bill it
You twisted that up real good? Um,
so,
So you ever heard the statement? Don't get it twisted. Um,
so Alderman going to
Thank you. Chairman, uh, first and foremost, you know, I
have to correct the record every body.
have to correct the record, every body of research and data
will tell you the immigrants pay taxes.
will tell you, the immigrants, pay taxes and the City of
Chicago and any other city that they live,
Chicago and any other city that they live in, uh,
In fact.
we won't even, we won't be able to,
We won't even, we won't be able to build our city without
immigrants.
I,
Order order.
Order order, order order order. We can't hear the speaker.
Go ahead alderman.
I don't order.
I don't order Auto order.
Please.
Person might need to be removed.
All right, please no no more.
All right, please. No no more for for vanity. Please go
ahead.
now, for the reason that we're here, because it's not about
migrants not paying taxes, it's about housing.
And we had a housing shortage well before.
My migrants arrived to the city of Chicago.
My migrants arrived to the city of Chicago and it is
because there is so much.
because there is so much red tape.
Around development around.
around development around adding units and around bringing
affordability to our communities. That's not some sort of
like tall tale story. It's a reality that many of our
communities experience, whether you are
communities experience. Whether you are representing
Wrigleyville, whether you're a representing Elmos,
Wrigleyville, whether you're a representing elmosa, whether
you're representing humble park or any other community,
you're representing humble park, or any other community
across the city of Chicago. The reality is, is that there's
a lot of red tape that small landlords in.
a lot of red tape that small landlords in particular have
to jump through just, to be able to provide
to jump through just to be able to provide units for our
community additional dwelling unit.
community additional dwelling units. Historically. In the
city of Chicago have been
city of Chicago, have been naturally occurring affordable
units for our families often.
units for our families often when people are creating
basements addicts or whether that's a Coach House in the
back of
their yard, they are doing
Their yard, they are doing so for relatives, for friends, so
that they could keep them close.
that they could keep them closed or for a neighbor, they
may not be able to afford a market rate unit in our
community.
Landlords shouldn't have to go through so many different.
landlords shouldn't have to go through so many different
loopholes or to be in favor with their older person to be
able to add a unit for a family.
able to add a unit for a family to live in.
And so, I'm okay.
And so I'm okay with letting go some of control because I
didn't.
didn't come to be an elected official to keep control of
every problem.
every problem in my ward. I can't to be a representative of
the people.
the people and people in my community in the 26th. Ward are
telling me every single day that they can't afford to live.
in my community because of the increase in rent. The
astronomical increases that we see in property taxes.
astronomical increases that we see in property taxes, the
type of Rapid gentrification that we are seeing in
communities, like, mine is
communities, like mine is a form of violence when you
displace people the way.
displace people, the way families in my community have been
displaced. You have to be able to look at the toolbox and
say what tools, am I going to add here?
say what tools am I going to add here so that I can
preserve families in my community. For me, that means
making sure we tack on fees to Dem.
making sure we tack on fees to Demolition and decom
conversions that tend to have the right of first refusal
and
conversions, they tend to have the right of first refusal
and the homeowners and building owners have the opportunity
to add additional dwelling units, if that's what's going to
keep people in place. And so today, I'll be V.
keep people in place. And so today, I'll be voting. Yes on
this ordinance. Thank you, chairman. Thank you.
Do it. Would anyone else like to speak any other?
Do it. Would anyone else like to speak any other speakers?
Okay, Alderman. Hopkins.
Thank you. Uh, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, and I am in full support of
the idea that it's time to legalize adus. Absolutely. It
is, uh, they can be a valuable part of the housing.
is, uh, they can be a valuable part of the housing stock
Citywide, uh, the fact that they've been banned for a
number of years, pilot programs, notwithstanding no longer
makes sense. It's time to modernize. It's time to move
forward. It's time to allow for a Adu as part.
forward. It's time to allow for a Adu as part of the zoning
process and here.
process. And here, I differ with a lot of my colleagues, I
commend alderman
commend Alderman Lawson for his hard work on this, you've
come closer than anybody has.
come closer than anybody has, uh, to having a a
comprehensive.
comprehensive uh, system that can work for everyone.
comprehensive, uh, system that can work for everyone. Um,
but I have to stop short of supporting this.
but I have to stop short of supporting this simply because
of what my, uh, colleague. The previous speaker just said,
um, this should be an older manic decision. We are elected.
to make difficult decisions. We are elected to make
controversial decisions. We are elected to use our own
judgment and represent the often competing interests.
judgment and represent the often competing interests within
our own Ward.
That's what the job.
That's what the job is all about, ladies and gentlemen. And
I don't think we should be yielding, any of our
decision-making Authority. Uh for any reason at all and
I'll just give you some recent examples.
I'll just give you some recent examples of how I made
decisions to support housing, to try to solve the housing
crisis. That I know we have in this city starting with an
entity that is no longer in my ward but
entity that is no longer in my ward, but was at the time,
Lincoln yards, I voted to support 6,000 housing units as
part of that project, ladies and gentlemen.
part of that project, ladies and gentlemen, 1 vote.
6,00 units were.
6,00 units were approved with 1 vote, in this chamber. 20%
of them.
of them affordable. Now there's some question about whether
any of this is going to happen. I understand that and it's
now 1 of my colleagues.
now 1 of my colleagues uh that is in charge of that project
and they're likely be some changes.
and they're likely be some changes, but the authority
exists today for
authority exists today for 6,000. New units on that, parcel
20%.
20% affordable, because we had a process because we had
discuss.
discussion and ultimately it was an older manic decision.
discussion and ultimately it was an older manic decision
you. And I Mr. Chairman uh uh, we
you, and I Mr. Chairman uh uh, we collaborated on the North
Union project 26.
North Union project 2600 housing units, were approved
because you and I work,
because you and I worked together and we pushed back
against the opposition.
against the opposition, 20% of that, as a portable that is
under construction.
under construction today. Another item on the agenda right
now the Marcy Street uh project which you heard, uh some
testimony and support today. 300 plus units that started
started when it was my ward. Again, it is now, uh, the 32.
started when it was my ward. Again, it is now, uh, the 32nd
Ward, but we pushed through the controversy there
Ward. But we pushed through the controversy there and
ultimately, it's a
Deck.
decision that we must make as Alderman, sometimes it's hard
and sometimes people disagree with it and sometimes those
people stand up and tell us they disagree with it, but it
should be our decision.
And that.
And that is that should apply on on an Adu basis as well.
I'm ready.
I'm ready to support Adu zoning. Changes in my ward, but
I'm ready to oppose them too. If it's out of character with
the particular lot, if it doesn't fit on the lot, if the
neighbors don't want it, if it doesn't work in the
community, those are all things that will hear about on a
case-by-case basis. So preserve that aldermanic decision
decision-making power it belongs in our office, it should
be in our office and to take it away. Uh, I I
be in our office and to take it away. Uh I I just can't
support this, I'm a no vote.
Thank you all. All all
Thank you all all, all chairman sjo Lopez call Lopez?
Thank you. Uh, thank you chairman Bernett and also
when I congratulate,
when I congratulate you on your 30 years of service and
also want to thank uh, Alderman Lawson uh, for putting
forward.
forward, this important ordinance.
As a chair.
as a chair of the housing committee and real estate, we hear
hear every session and we hear across our communities, the
need to create more affordable. Housing, that is truly
affordable for the people who live and work to protect and
the communities.
the communities that we continue to live and are under
attack.
attack are severely severely. Um,
attack are severely severely, um undermining the efforts to
create more affordable housing
uh, I think to mention and to
Uh, I think to mention and to, and to try to escape go
immigrants.
immigrants, is nothing but a distraction of the real issues
that are affecting our communities.
Affordable.
affordable housing is a need and we believe the
Affordable housing is a need and we believe the housing is
a human right here in the city of Chicago.
this 100,000, these are
This 100,000, these are 100 100 100,000 units of vacant
units. That could be legalized by simply.
units. That could be legalized by simply taking action
today. That is the fact,
Legalizing addicts. Basements coach houses after we as
Legalizing addicts. Basements coach houses after we, as a
council did already a pilot. We already have the
council did already a pilot, we already have the data that
shows the effectiveness of such a policy I understand and
hear
I understand and hear.
I understand and hear the concerns of some members about
aldermanic prerogative, but let me tell you about
something.
1 thing that we cannot put ahead of aldermanic prerogative
is community prerogative.
The need and the desire of people to stay and live in.
The need and the desire of people to stay and live in our
communities.
We cannot put the interest.
Of and political interests.
Of, and political interests before what's right? And what's
effective and was actually going to create more affordable
housing units here today in the city council.
we have the opportunity to be on the right side of
We have the opportunity to be on the right side of History.
By simply taking action.
By simply taking action today.
And not here and not here. I
and not here and I hear, I hear a continued to hear the
narratives that continue to distract
from the real issues.
Yes, and we will.
Yes. And we will also take pedophiles to court as well but
Yes. And we will also take pedophiles to court as well, but
I tell you 1 of the things that we must and we must act is
an affordable housing by allowing by allowing to legalize
these units communities.
these units. Communities like pilson, a little village have
thousands of units that could be legalized and put forward
to keep him afordable. That's exactly what this ordinance
does. This ordinance is a compromise.
does. This ordinance is a compromised and is a compromise
that is needed to today.
that is needed to today more than ever. When we see
affordable housing units being
affordable housing units, being undermined by the same
Council that is
Council, that is also being taken to court even in federal
court, because
court because aldermanic prerogative often times have
gotten on the way or create
Creating affordable housing. I'm not saying that.
Creating affordable housing. I'm not saying that those are
the facts. This is not propaganda.
the facts. This is not propaganda needed a distraction.
Those are the facts that we must.
Those are the facts that we must to reckon with the
council. Today has an opportunity has an opportunity to
undo some of the harm of the past and I welcome this
opportunity.
opportunity to work on different side of the aisles.
opportunity to work on different side of the aisles with
all the M Lawson chairman uh Bernett and many others. And
as a as a chair of the housing committee I urge
as a, as a chair of the housing committee, I urge or city
council to take action, proactive action,
council to take action, proactive action on an ordinance
that has proven to work. This compromise will help us to
create thousands of more than over a 100,000 units of
housing, that will be kept affordable.
I would like to tell me of those who continue to pose this.
When is the time to take action? If it's
when is the time to take action? If it's not today? When is
the when is the time to talk?
the when is the time to talk about, actually an action that
the city council can take today that will
city council can take today that will create affordable
housing. So today,
housing. So today I asked us to reconsider, to talk about
the leaving the things of the past to stop a scapegoating
immigrants who had nothing to do with this ordinance. And I
start talking about what we can do today.
as a council to give affordable housing to
As a council to give affordable housing to all Chicagoans,
all Chicagoans, who need Solutions.
all Chicagoans, who need Solutions, let's propaganda. And
yes.
yes and yes
less distractions from those who continue to discriminate to
dehumanize and criminalize working people who pay
dehumanize. And criminalize working people who pay taxes
every day. So thank you, chairman.
every day. So, thank you, chairman brunette, I will vote in
support of this ordinance.
Thank you.
Alderman is part of.
Thank you, sir. I'll be brief because I I want to make sure
we can get to this vote. Um,
Number 1. I appreciate your service.
Number 1, I appreciate your service, your openness and
thoughtfulness on this matter. I appreciate Vice chair
Lawson and his
consistency and his persistency and
Consistency and his persistency and his willingness to
collaborate and compromise on.
collaborate and compromise on this issue. I will say as a
war that's been in 1 of the pilot zones
For the past 4 years.
Is it a?
Surrendering of control.
Yes, it is in a marginal sense.
Yes, it is. In a marginal sense. Do I feel like my ward has
borne great benefits.
From.
From my surrendering of that control. Absolutely.
I think the housing that has been built in the world,
I think the housing that has been built in the world
through the 80u pilot has been extremely beneficial, the
conversation around due adus. Change the character of a
neighborhood. I, I would argue that there's no development
that changes character less than an accessory, dwelling
unit.
because it by and large fits within the existing envelope
of the building where it's being built. Um,
I can also say,
I can also say because a matter in my wore previously was
Decon, convers
Decon conversions. Um, 3 Flats turning into single family
homes since July 2023.
homes. Since July 2023, while we lost 16 units of housing
to Decon conversions, we gained 23 units through 80 use. So
there there's a rebalancing of our housing stock and
housing Supply. That's been very beneficial
housing Supply, as some colleagues have said, isn't
everything when it comes to affordability,
But I would argue, it's still essential.
but I would argue, it's still essential and I think
I appreciate the trepidation, trepidation. I had the same.
trepidation, but I think Citywide. We're going to see a
great benefit born out from this ordinance. So thank you.
much for bringing this forward today. Thank you, chair.
Thank you.
We like to knowledge almond almond.
We like to knowledge. Almond almond Mitchell Alderman, hop
hoping.
Hoping work.
and uh,
And uh, Alderman Gutierrez.
Oh, okay. Any other aldermen. They say that we
Oh okay. Any other aldermen. They say that we Alderman. Lee
Bardot. We like to.
Bardot. We like to acknowledge all of them for the corn.
Thank you. Uh alderman.
Thank you. Uh Alderman. Um Lee
Thank you chairman. Um, and I I want to also acknowledge my
Thank you chairman. Um, and I, I want to also acknowledge my
colleague Alderman Lawson for all of the work. And he and
the uh, Department of Housing have done on this. Um, I
the uh Department of Housing have done on this. Um, I also
think it's come a long way uh and I also still have some
questions and concerns many of which have already been
echoed here. Um, so I'll just get to the specific questions
on the opt.
on the optional limits. It says, Alderman can also choose
to opt out of these limits by ordinance so is that to to
Simply increase or is that also to opt out of
Or is it to? Also, I, I just have a
Or is it to also I I just have a misunderstanding. Sure,
sure, sure how does this so yeah.
sure, sure how does this. So yeah, those would be the
minimums per District if you wanted to add more
minimums per District. If you wanted to add more than the 1
2 3 per block, you have the ability to do that. So, my
ordinance similar to a moratorium. So
ordinance similar to a moratorium so we can go up but we
can't go down. Correct.
Um, on the owner occupancy, in a single family home. Um,
Say that I'm a, I'm a single.
Say that I'm a I'm a single family home owner. I I get the
Adu I build something in the back.
Adu, I build something in the back and then I I decide to
sell the property. Does that does the owner?
sell the property. Does that does the owner occupancy then
extend to whoever purchases the property?
So the language is written is owner occup.
so the language is written is owner occupancy at the time
of application and construction, we have some legal issues,
requiring it be odor occupied Beyond
requiring it be odor occupied beyond, that is my
understanding. Um, but certainly for application and and
construction,
Got it. Um, okay. And then uh,
Got it. Um, okay and then uh, I think it was mentioned
earlier about parking requirement waivers. Um that that
would be I think you were mentioning this.
would be, I think you were mentioning this Alderman Lawson
in consultation, with Alders in the community. What?
in consultation, with Alders in the community. What does it
what does that actually look like in? So, uh, if
what does that actually look like in? So uh, if any parking
for the main primary building,
for the main primary building any required parking is to be
waived that would have to be done by.
waived that would have to be done by administrative
adjustments. Um, which is approved by the zoning
administrator and uh, notice is given to the local Alder
person. And then uh, adjacent neighbor.
Alder person and then uh, adjacent neighbor. So all of
those people have the ability to weigh in. Um, only if
parking is to be waived for, for the primary struct.
parking is to be waived for, for the primary structure, got
it.
and then, what's the, what's the, what's
And then, what's the, what's the, what's the sort of
circumference? I don't know. Patrick has that, um, is
circumference? I don't know. Patrick has that. Um, is it
250 feet is, what is it? What's the notification?
neighbors for an administrative adjustment? It's just your
adjacent property. Also, so anything not divided by a
public right away.
public right away, okay? So, not even across the alley but
2 add
adjacent most importantly, right to the left. Well and the
all are in and they all support, right?
Okay. Um got it. And then can anybody comment on like what
this does for um your assess tests, uh, text value. Like,
are your taxes going to go up when you add a unit because
you're going from a single?
you're going from a single family, I just don't, I don't
know how the the, the Assessor
know how the the the assessor or the county treats this
from a property tax assessment.
from a property tax assessment perspective.
Does housing have any info on that? I have some
general.
it's, I certainly can't speak for the
It's I certainly can't speak for the assessor maths and
Deputy Commissioner at housing for the record. I I
certainly can't speak for the assessor's office but our
understanding is that um, that the existence of the
understanding is that um that the existence of the unit,
when recognized be by the assessor's office would be
factored,
factored into the next reassessment of the home. So likely
the assessment would increase.
Thank you. Um look it just like some of my other
colleagues. I have been in the 3 years that I've been in
office slowly adding
office, slowly adding density. Um we are in a to as well.
office slowly adding density. Um we are in a to as well in
many places in the ward and uh you know I welcome that we
many places in the ward. And uh, you know, I welcome that
we we do have a, how the housing shortage um, and
that we, we do have a, how the housing shortage, um, and a
lack of available, excuse me, affordable housing, um,
of available. Excuse me, affordable housing. Um but we're
really thoughtful about where that goes. I have a community
process for zoning change.
Changes. Uh, we have an opportunity.
Changes, uh, we have an opportunity to engage. So, I
continued to have a, a concern.
continued to have a, a concern around, not having, uh,
The opportun.
the opportunity for Neighbors to weigh in and for, for
The opportunity for Neighbors to weigh in and for, for me
as the alderman as well. Um, you know, I'm not a strict
aldermanic prerogative kind of person. I've also been doing
upzoning.
upzoning in the ward as well. I just think that we know our
Wards the best um, in that that that continues to be
Wards the best, um, in that, that that continues to be a
concern for me. That's all the questions we have. Thank
you.
Thank you, Autumn and great questions. Uh,
Thank you, Autumn, and great questions. Uh, almond condo
Thank you, chairman and thank you for your service. We're
going to miss you. Um, regarding the
going to miss you, um, regarding the assessment. Um, that
was my former, uh, employee. I I used to work at the
assessor's office and regarding to her question. Yes. Uh,
once you do a Adu, um, it goes to the Assessor's Office.
it becomes a different classification.
it becomes a different classification, so it's no longer a
single family. It's classified.
single family. It's classified as a 2 flat, which means
your property taxes will increase.
Okay. It will increase. And when it increases, who's going
to pay,
pay for the property tax, increase the renter.
So you're calling this affordable.
So, you're calling this affordable. This is not really
affordable adus.
affordable adus because because what's going to happen is
going to be Market rent.
so, let's be
So let's be honest, and let's be real.
You know.
you know, the thing is that we
Unintentionally.
This is going to change.
This is going to change that Dynamic of the city of
Chicago.
in our residential area.
Especially with our bungalows.
And to make it clear.
and to make it clear, you know, a lot of people aren't
going to be till
going to be util for this and yes, it's going to be home.
It is going to be owner occupied at the time but if the
It is going to be owner occupied at the time, but if this,
but if the owner tends to sell the their, um, single family
with the now, it's a 2u in it. Who's going to buy it and
investor not someone.
investor not someone else who's going to be able to to
live?
live there and rent out the other apartment?
So to be clear.
We're looking for affordability. This is not a way of being
affordable.
Property taxes are going to go.
Property taxes are going to go up.
and the thing is, if we want really want to truly truly
save,
the housing stock, we should start building and looking
looking at subsidized housing.
because when you,
Because when you, when we start doing subsidized housing,
that's where the affordability is.
Thank you, chairman.
Thank, thank you. Um,
Thank thank you. Um Alderman Alderman Quinn.
Thank you, Mr. Chair and uh, congratulations on a on a
great career.
great career um a couple of questions. Um,
the first question may be directed to the
The first question may be directed to the building
department. What? What happens to
department. What, what happens to existing illegal adus?
Good afternoon.
Commissioner Hopkins, speaking.
Existing units.
existing units would be required to apply for permits to
legalize the units and that's what currently happens. Now,
when an inspection is performed and a property,
when an inspection is performed and a property is cited for
an illegal unit in the property or on the property they
are.
are required to either Decon convert and pull up obtain.
permit to do that or apply for a permit.
permit to do that or apply for a permit to see if the
current zoning will allow for.
current zoning will allow for that additional unit and in
the event. It
the event it does. Then they are
Prior to apply for a full building.
Prior to apply for a full building permit to legalize it and
commissioner.
commissioner about how many
How many?
How many uh illegal conversions are converted?
How many, uh, illegal conversions are converted a year?
so that is handled through the court process and so I don't
have an exact number I can
have an exact number. I can um work with the law
department, to get that information for you.
department, to get that information for you Alderman and
and am I right in saying that it's the building.
and am I right in saying that it's the building permit that
triggers the, uh, reclassification from the perspective of
the Assessor.
That is correct.
Um, thank you, commissioner. Um, no problem, do we have?
Um, thank you, commissioner. Um, no problem, do we have an
opinion from the the fire commissioner about this about 5
years ago?
years ago, on the 6000 block of South Kenneth. We had an
illegal conversion and a Chicago bungalow
where the attic went up in flames and we lost a 4 year old
that evening is is a net.
that evening is, is a net halt here to render an opinion
about illegal.
about illegal conversions or adus.
certainly like,
Certainly like to hear her input on this.
I don't see.
Her. That's unfortunate.
Alderman, Larson. I I know.
Alderman, Larson, I I know and correct me if I'm wrong
between our folks at housing and buildings.
between our folks at housing and buildings and dpd fire has
been consulted a specifically around the separation from
the Coach House and the primary residents. I also just want
to point out that any new unit is going to be created via
building permit.
building permit which means all of the the life safety
codes.
codes of the
The city code. So no 1 is legalizing a fire trap.
this is,
This is a legal unit with required ceiling Heights, Ingress
egress.
egress um and fire separation as needed if it is.
egress, um and fire separation as needed. If it is a coach
house from the primary building.
It, it would be very interesting to get an opinion from.
It, it would be very interesting to get an opinion from the
fire commissioner on this.
Um,
just,
just for the record. Um,
There is.
There is under this proposal. No.
There is under this proposal. Know, all dramatic oversight
is that correct?
Al Larson. I don't uh no actually
Al Larson. I don't uh, no. Actually there are certain
points where the alderman do have oversight. Number 1, we
need a majority to pass it Citywide. So that's where we are
right now. If all the men choose to opt out of the limits,
meaning they're open to having more units.
meaning they're open to having more units in their areas
than are currently limited. They have that option. Um if
they want to opt out of home ownership they have that.
option. But what more
option but what more 1 more time, right? What we're not
doing, is requiring a zoning.
doing. Is requiring a zoning change? Like we are now. Yeah.
So
The word compromise was thrown around here pretty loosely.
And the reality is if we're serious about
and the reality is if we're serious about a compromise,
we'd actually offer a carve out of R1 R2 and R3 with
actually offer a carve out of R1 R2 and R3 with an opt-in
that would be something that I would be interest.
that would be something that I would be interested in
otherwise I think that the word khimprom
otherwise I think that the word compromise is has been has
been conflicted.
been conflicted and uh for someone that represents the
bungal.
Bungalow belt, I feel like my residents
the Bungalow belt, I feel like my residents are having this
ordinance jammed down their throats.
And that's not fair.
and we talked about, um, what
And we talked about um, what keeps people here. I believe
residents in the
residents in The Bungalow belt will move if they are, if
they don't work.
they don't work for the city of Chicago. And so that makes
this an attack on the working class the people
this an attack on the working class. The people that show
up every day are teachers our fire.
up every day are teachers our firefighters, our police
officers, our laborers, our heavy equipment operators.
Those are the people that are going to be impacted from
this. So go ahead.
this. So go ahead, ruin the Integrity of single family.
dwelling blocks. You're only hurting your only hurting the
Integrity of the city of Chicago.
and for,
And for anyone that thinks they know better about the 13th.
Ward, you don't. I'm sorry. Thank you.
Thank you. So
Anyone else are?
Anyone else are there anyone else? I just want to say this.
So I've been, I was
So I've been I was 1 of the first Pilots. So, in this pilot
started under the former Administration, it didn't start.
started under the former Administration, it didn't start
under this Administration. I haven't had any challenges
with this in my ward. Ugh, I do know.
with this in my ward. Ugh. I do know just a small time that
I've been on the zoning.
I've been on the zoning committee.
Several of my colleagues. Uh, some this here now, have come
here to get a zoning change to allow for people to use
their basements.
their basements right now. You know I think you know, in
this instance I think that this gives folks an opportunity
of being illegal to be legal right now. We have several
people who have large families uh,
people who have large families uh you know living in their
homes. They want to get them a
their homes. They want to get them a place to stay and they
they illegally
illegally form a unit, right? And and we're forcing people
to be illegal and why they why do they
to be illegal. And why they why do they family members stay
with them because they can't afford to go anywhere else?
else? Uh, there's a lot of folks shacking up.
else. Uh, there's a lot of folks shacking up today because
it's so expensive out here for them to
so expensive out here for them to be able to live somewhere
else and not only that
else. And not only that, you get those folks an opportunity
to be able to
opportunity to be able to subsidize some of the taxes that
they're getting, because they're getting priced out. And
these neighborhoods, I just had my last community meeting
last night.
Woo.
And there was an argument with someone with a 2 million
dollar home,
That didn't want.
That didn't want someone else moving next door to them.
They didn't want something else. Built next door to them
because they had a $0 home, you know? And and and this
nimbyism and this wanting to not allow other people who
could afford to to live in the neighborhood to be able to
live.
live next to you. I think we need to stop that.
live next to you. I think we need to stop that folks want
to not allow folks who want to rent.
to not allow folks who want to rent not the little next to
them. I think that's bad. I think.
them. I think that's bad. I think folks are not wanting
young people to live next to them. I think that's bad,
right? And and and and and I think everyone needs the
opportunity to start out opportunity to grow.
opportunity to start out opportunity to grow, you know,
some some folks have their kids,
some some folks have their kids living with them man
because they can't afford to go anywhere else.
because they can't afford to go anywhere else, you know,
and we need to be considerate of that and some folks
and we need to be considerate of that. And some folks have
I've had 3 generations in my house, some folks had their
mother-in-laws, they mother,
mother-in-laws, they mothers and everyone living with them,
right? And that's just how that's
How people are?
How people are uh, in this city right now. And I tell you,
Every neighborhood in my ward is.
Every neighborhood in my ward is getting expensive.
From the most challenging.
From the most challenging neighborhood to the most
expensive neighborhood.
West, Humble Park West Humble Park in my
West Humble Park West Humble Park in my ward, where, you
know,
I got houses going for 750.
I got houses going for 750,000 dollars now and folks that
live in that neighborhood.
live in that neighborhood that have been there for a long
time are trying to stay.
We got to figure out another way.
We got to figure out another way to allow people to stay in
their neighborhood.
their neighborhoods. So, Alderman, cruzada and then we go
for a book automatic gazzada. Make a motion to
for a book automatic gazzada, make a motion to pass.
Roll call.
There's a motion on the table.
Go ahead. I would like to offer a, uh, an amendment on its
face.
face to have a carve out where the ottoman have the
authority to opt out of this particular ordinance. So
that's all the order. We already have a motion all
that's are the order. We already have a motion. All them.
So so you're not going to entertain my motion know we
appeal,
appeal the rule, I appeal, the ruling of the chair is it is
a I feel the ruling of the chair motion before you there
was already. Oh you I had my hand up over here and then
there
was already. Oh you I had my hand up over here. And then it
was, I had my hand over here, and you just looked great in
him. I had my hand up.
all right, so you want to make a motion for me to appeal
I I make a motion that we amend this ordinance on his face
to have a carved out of r.
to have a carved out of R1 R2 and R3.
Yeah. Well you can have the right.
Yeah, well you can have the right so from with the so so
Yeah, well, you can have the right. So from with the so so
we already start the motion and then you appealing. So you
want to we going to vote on the appeal to go.
want to we going to vote on the appeal to go against the
motion that he he started. So we need to vote to see if we
go against his emotions in the chair. That was not how I'm
sitting over.
sitting over here with my hand up waiting. And you look
directly there and went straight.
directly there and went straight into a motion. I
understand you're in a hurry.
I,
I understand know this is, this is too important. You want
us to pull up the videos. This is too important.
us to pull up the videos, this is too important. You want
to pull up the videos. Know what I want to see if your hand
was up because your hand wasn't up as far as I'm concerned.
So that
So there was a person on the table
to appeal the motion. I want my motion to be voted on.
Well, he want his motion to be voted on his motion.
Well, he want his motion to be voted on his motion was
before yours.
That's because you looked right at.
That's because you looked right at him.
his motion was before your
His motion was before yours Alderman. Noah was not. I'm
sitting over here with my hand.
sitting over here with my hand up, Mr. Chairman
so, Peru 41 you have to have
So, Peru 41 you have to have your your um Amendment.
Passed around to everyone within a certain amount.
Passed around to everyone within a certain amount that we
recess and allow the zoning committee to draft it. All
right? So we got a motion on the table.
right? So we got a motion on the table, so we going to vote
on the motion roll call.
the motion is, his motion is
The motion is, his motion is to vote on this.
Point it and get up out of here. I get it.
Roll.
Roll Call.
Roll call Mute his m.
Roll call Mute his mute, his mic roll call.
Is already.
Is already in motion, don't the motion go first.
because,
all right, so so so
the chair. So okay.
The chair. So, okay, so there's a there's an appeal.
there's an appeal for
There's an appeal for there's an appeal for the ruling of
the chair. We're going to take a roll call.
all in favor of
All in favor of his appeal.
Uh, say yeah. All oppose say no.
Okay, so so y'all want to do a roll call or y'all.
Okay, so so y'all want to do a roll call? Or y'all want to
do a Voice vote?
Roll call.
Alderman esparta.
To sustain.
To sustain, to for his, for him to appeal my ruling.
To sustain, to, for his, for him to appeal my ruling. You
would say yes for him to to oppose him.
would say yes for him to to oppose him billing, the ruling.
You would say no.
No is no is essentially.
No, is no is essentially sustaining your opinion sir,
right?
No.
No, no, no.
Alderman hop.
Alderman Hopkins.
Alderman. Dow.
Alderman Hall.
Alderman.
Alderman Harris.
Alderman, bill.
Alderman, Ramirez, Alderman Moore.
Alderman Mosley. Yes.
Alderman sio Lopez.
Alderman Fuentes almond Cruise.
Alderman Conway.
Alderman. Cuada. Almond. Viegas.
Alderman. Cuada, almond. Viegas. Almond rally almond cusan.
Alderman. Cuada? Almond. Viegas. Almond rally almond cusan?
Almond. Clay. Almond Larson. Almond Bernette know. So the
pill has been voted down. So we have a motion up to vote on
this. So now we're going to do the roll call for the motion
to vote for this ordinance and
to vote for this ordinance. And and the substitute. Um, so
we start
start automating the spot.
Yes.
Alderman Hopkins.
Alderman. Dow.
Alderman Hall.
Alderman Hall Alderman, Harris.
Alderman, bill.
Alderman, Ramirez, Alderman Moore.
Alderman, Ramirez, Alderman, Moore Alderman, Mosley know
Alderman sio Lopez.
Alderman.
Alderman Fuentes Alderman Cruise.
Alderman Fuentes Alderman, Cruise Alderman Conway.
Alderman quaza.
Alderman quaza Alderman, vagus Alderman rally.
Alderman, quaza Alderman, vagus Alderman, Raleigh almond
canis, almond clay.
Armin Larson.
Almond. Bernard is a, yes.
How many know?
13, yeses, and 7, NOS the or
13 yeses and 7 NOS. The ordinance is passed. Thank you.
Congratulations.
And substituted.
What's the letter?
What's the letter that y'all have? We're gonna go I don't
order for Alder Middle Spa.
order for Alder so we're gonna go to the auto order.
order for Alder. So we're gonna go to the auto order for
alderman laspada.
Uh, ordinance moving to the top of page 2.
uh, ordinance moving to the top of page 2 document number
02,
020025 000.
020025 015577.
020025 015577, a text Amendment introduced by Alder.
020025 015577, a text Amendment introduced by alpata and
co-sponsored by Vice chair Larson.
co-sponsored by Vice chair. Larson and Alders Vasquez that
co-sponsored by Vice chair. Larson, and Alders Vasquez that
immense Municipal Code title 17,
immense Municipal Code title 17 by modifying section 1710.
010102 B to allow minimum all Street automobile parking rat
ratio reduction up to 100% for construction.
ratio reduction up to 100% for construction of parking
structures near Chicago.
structures near Chicago Transit Authority or Metro Rail or
bus lines.
This item has a substitute ordinance, committee members.
will find a copy of it in the package before you
Alderman, spider makes
Alderman spider makes a motion to accept the substitute
ordinance, all in favor.
ordinance all in favor. Signify by saying, I all oppose and
the opinion of the chair, The Substitute is before us.
the opinion of the chair, The Substitute is before us, we
have all the Miller spotter here to present on this matter.
Thank you.
Thank you very much chair. Uh, I first want to start off.
By thanking.
Alderman.
Alderman, Conway, Alderman, Reilly and Alderman Dowell. Um,
Alderman, Conway, Alderman, Reilly and Alderman Dowell, um,
for the call.
To slow down.
To slow down and be deliberate at last month.
To slow down and be deliberate at last month's zoning.
Committee meeting their feedback. My convers.
Committee meeting their feedback. My conversations with
them, the amended language that they brought,
them, the amended language that they brought forward.
Absolutely makes this a
Absolutely. Makes this a stronger, Tighter and more
effective ordinance.
So, I want to say my appreciation there. Um,
Broadly, the purposes remain the same. So in areas where
we're seeing,
we're seeing map amendments in the city.
we're seeing map amendments in the city that ordinarily to
take advantage of Transit served location.
take advantage of Transit served location benefits would
have to go back and do
Successive type 1 zoning changes. This allows assuming the
proposed.
proposal is triggering the affordable. Requirements
ordinance.
ordinance for those benefits to be taken.
ordinance for those benefits to be taken advantage of by
right.
Elsewhere it. Expands the zoning categ.
Elsewhere it. Expands the zoning categories that have the
flexibility.
To reduce the their parking requirements.
To reduce the their parking requirements across a broader
range of residential zoning Kate.
range of residential zoning categories.
To be clear.
This is not a mandate.
Its flexibility.
Developers.
Developers know what it takes to be successful in
everyone's wards.
everyone's Wards, sometimes that looks like 1 for 1
parking.
sometimes like can look like more than that sometimes it
sometimes like can look like more than that. Sometimes it
can look like less, but this allows for Broad
can look like less, but this allows for broader flexibility
to meet the market in the neighborhood.
to meet the market in the neighborhood where it is at. Um,
there are 2.
Exclusions that have been built in.
exclusions that have been built in at the request of
colleagues, so, for
colleagues. So for D districts and for areas.
colleagues. So for D districts and for areas adjacent to
Metro
and admin.
and administrative adjustment will be required to go below.
50% of required parking. Um I think those are smart and
fair.
fair amendments that were requested and I think it makes it
Um, a better more flexible ordinance.
um, a better more flexible ordinance and happy to hear from
colleagues but also would um ask favorable consideration
from colleagues at the close of conversation. Thank you.
chair.
Yes, almond.
Yes, almond Conway. Oh, I just wanted to follow up on. Uh,
go ahead. Okay.
go ahead. Okay, great. Yeah, so um,
you know, downtown, we Face significant
Development pressures and Mr. Chairman you're certain
Development pressures and Mr. Chairman, you're certainly no
stranger to that. In fact, I would say, I, I am very proud
of the fact that, in my time,
of the fact that, in my time as Alderman, the 34th ward has
the second highest housing permits issued of any Ward.
the second highest housing permits issued of any ward in
the city. Number 1, Far and Away is is your ward, Mr.
Chairman and mine is by far and away in seconds and I'm
very proud of that. Uh but what this? What this Orden
does is allows us to um, certainly reduce
does is allows us to um certainly reduce reduce the uh,
parking minimums but it also gives us a little Flex
parking minimums but it also gives us a little flexibility
in the downtown districts based on the unique pressures
that we Face downtown. Including events happening downtown
a lot of people uh, working
a lot of people, uh, working and enjoying our our arts and
culture scene. So, I want to thank alderman laspada, for
working with myself,
working with myself and, and downtown colleagues to
working with myself and and downtown colleagues to, to, uh,
help us work through the unique pressures.
help us work through the unique pressures while also, uh,
making some much-needed upd.
making some much-needed updating regarding
Uh, parking minimums. Thank you Mr. Chairman
Thank you very much. Uh, Alderman Quezada
uh, the
Uh, the 35th Ward is blessed to be well served by public
transit. We have 2 CTA stations in the ward, the Belmont
Blue Line station, and Logan Square, Blue Line Station.
Blue Line station, and Logan Square, Blue, Line station and
just 2 outside of our award and numerous bus routes.
just 2 outside of our award and numerous bus routes in
2022. The Lucy Gonzales
2022. The Lucy Gonzalez Parsons Apartments, a hundred unit,
100% affordable housing development, open next to the Logan
Square. Blue Line Station.
This building.
this building the result of years of Grassroots Community
organizing allows for
Organizing allows for 100 working class families, the
freedom and opportunity.
freedom and opportunity that access to public transit
offers.
While Lucy Gonzalez Parsons is an incredible win for our
community. We need many more buildings like it to address
the affordable.
the affordable, affordability crisis, facing our
communities.
the affordable affordability, crisis facing our communities
removing parking minimums will allow us that additional
flexibility. That will make it easier for us to promote
Equitable Transit oriented development. In addition, to
building new affordable housing, near Transit. We
building new affordable housing near Transit. We also need
to preserve existing naturally affordable housing.
to preserve existing naturally affordable housing, near
Transit, removing parking minimums will allow
Transit. Removing parking, minimums will allow greater
flexibility. That can incentivize the preservation.
flexibility. That can incentivize the preservation and
adaptive reuse of existing buildings as opposed to their
Demolition and replacement a win for afford.
Demolition and replacement a win for affordability and
environmental sustainability. And for the historic
character of our community, I will be voting in the
affirmative. Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else?
Okay. Y'all ready to take a vote on this?
Alderman. Larson moved to.
Alderman, Larson moved to pass.
Um, all in favor signify by
Um, all in favor. Signify by saying I
All oppose any opinion of the charity.
All oppose any opinion of the charity eyes, have it?
Saying.
The man that that was like.
The man that that was like unique. Uh, let's Sparta
You.
you know, we had laspata all the way over here and
You know, we had laspata all the way over here and and, uh,
come with all the way over here.
come with all the way over here, come to the middle baby.
That's how I supposed to be.
That's how I supposed to be Mr. Workout Mr. Chairman which
we
which we did, which we happily did, we all can agree on.
something. I don't know. Moving on, we have previously
deferred.
deferred document number 020250 016695
deferred document number. 020250 016695 a text Amendment
introduced by mayor.
introduced by mayor Brandon Johnson regarding the
obstruction of public facing Windows spaces of any business
by signs to know more than 25%. This item has a
substitute ordinance. All committee members will find a
copy of the ordinance in the package. Before you
uh,
Uh, almanis bottom makes a motion to accept the substitute.
uh, almanis bottom makes a motion to accept the substitute
ordinance all in favor, signify by saying, all right, all
right, in the beginning of the charity eyes, have it? The
substitute is before us we have department of building
commission.
commission, commissioner Hopkins and commissioner
commission commissioner Hopkins and commissioner Capelli of
of bacp to present on this matter. Uh, Commissioners
proceed. Hello.
Um, good afternoon. Chair member net.
um, good afternoon, chair member net, Vice chair Lawson and
honorable members of the
and honorable members of the committee on zoning landmarks
and building standards my
landmarks, and building standards. My name is Ivan kapali
and I'm the commissioner
commissioner for the Department of Business Affairs and
consumer protection.
consumer. Protection also known as bacp. I am joined by
consumer. Protection, also known as bacp. I am joined by
Deputy Commissioner and general counsel General Daw.
Deputy Commissioner and general counsel General Dawson for
bacp and assistant Commissioner of intergovernmental
Affairs. Uh, Chris Jesup
Affairs. Uh, Chris Jessup. I'm here to express my support
for the substitute ordinance before you.
By way of background. And as, you know, the municipal code
already requires that.
already requires that businesses. Obtain a departmental
building sign permit before installing
buildings sign permit before. Installing signage
With some exceptions.
The ordinance before you build on those current.
the ordinance, before you build on those current
regulations empowering, empowering bacp with
regulations empowering empowering bacp with authority to
enforce dob permit requirements
This is not just about Aesthetics.
This is not just about Aesthetics, it's about enhancing
Public Safety. Protecting our communities, and ensuring the
well-being of our dedic.
well-being of our dedicated. First Responders and City
investigative personnel.
investigative personnel and patrons Within These
establishments.
Specifically.
a passage of this, or
a passage of this ordinance would prohibit title 4 licenses
from a obstructing more than 25% of public facing.
space with signage or otherwise.
for and for for clarification signage with
for and, for, for clarification, signage with a dob sign
permit or exempt, from dob's permit,
permit, or exempt from dob's permit, requirement will be
exempt from the prohibition into this, or in
exempt from the prohibition into this or in this ordinance,
but this is crucial for maintaining clear.
But this is crucial for maintaining clear lines of sight
into commercial establishments, which is
of sight into commercial establishments, which is vital for
both Public Safety. And
Public Safety and the safety of law enforcement and other
investigative person.
other investigative personnel.
Excessively tinting windows. It is well known that opaque
and heavily tinted windows. Create a veil of secrecy that
can Hinder.
can hinder, emergency response and obscure and obscure.
view of potential dangers and illegal activities within a
business.
C.
Using distracting LED lights that obstruct visibility.
Using distracting LED lights that obstruct visibility into
commercial interiors. And let me just remind you that this
lighting. This such lighting can be cons.
lighting. This such lighting can be considered a nuisance
and it's also a significant safety concern. Potentially,
disorienting the public and impeding.
disorienting the public and impeding the ability to Quick
assess situations during an emergency.
Our goal within this ordinance.
Our goal within this ordinance is compliance.
and this subject,
and this object objective is strongly reflected in the
substitute before you
First, the ordinance.
First, the ordinance mandates that bacp investigators issue
a 10-day.
issue. A 10-day notice to correct before issuing a
citation.
The notice is also referred to as a cure.
The notice is also referred to as a cure period, this
process will ensure that no business.
process will ensure that no business decided. Without
first, being given the given notice and
first, being given, the given notice and an opportunity to
correct the violation.
this approach allows businesses to address issues that
could otherwise post public safety risks.
Second, the ordinance would not become effective.
Second, the ordinance would not become effective until 90
days after a passage and public.
days after a passage and publication, which extends the
effective date and will give bacp dob and dpd.
effective date and will give bacp dob and dpd time to
engage businesses business service.
engage businesses, Business Service, organizations and
Industry Partners to ensure that every business is aware of
this new requirements before they are subject to them.
This collaborative.
This collaborative approach will ensure that the businesses
are aware of.
are aware of the role in creating a safe.
and,
And uh, uh, safe and vibrant communities.
By directly addressing unsightly and unsafe.
By directly addressing unsightly and unsafe window
coverings as excessive window tinting. And
coverings as excessive window tinting and distracting
window lighting. This ordinance will profoundly impact the
safety of our communities. Our residents patrons First
Responders,
Responders and other City investigative personnel.
this measure will also significantly improve the a
This measure will also significantly improve the aesthetic
appeal of business facades aligning.
appeal of business facades aligning with the city's greater
strategy.
Of.
Of developing and creating thriving and VIs.
Of developing and creating thriving and Visually engaging
commercial districts all across.
commercial districts, all across all 77 communities, thank
you and my
you, and my staff. And I are here to answer any questions.
Okay. Um, Alderman Conway.
Um, would a business allowed to be allowed to have?
Um, would a business allowed to be allowed to have
curtains?
in this, in the case of this, uh, if they want to close the
curtains, when the business is closed,
so, the way it is written right now, it
So, the way it is written right now, it is prohibited. But
this is again there is a a
this is again, there is a, a cure period. So if we have to
respond to a complaint of curtains, this is something that
could be quickly fixed.
So wait.
So wait, but if a business had curtains that it closed it
would be in viol.
would be in violation of this ordinance, is that the way it
is written it, we have to
is written it. We have to have clear view into the
location.
uh, is is
Uh, is is, is this limited? I assume that the concern is
more.
of like
Places that serve alcohol.
Places that serve alcohol or convenience stores is this.
ordinance limited to that or is it kind of any it applies
to all businesses license on the on their title 4?
Okay, I think that may provoke some questions.
Okay, I think that may provoke some questions from my
colleagues. I yield my time. Thank you. Okay.
colleagues. I yield my time. Thank you. Okay, so so
commissioner can you just uh,
commissioner, can you just uh, expound on that a little
bit? So everybody can be clear on it. So the, the purpose
here is Public Safety. We are attempt. We are trying to
uh, promote Public Safety in the way that we respond to.
complaints in the neighborhoods. Uh, we're looking for
locations that are completely covered with window.
locations that are completely covered with Windows. Uh,
they are a threat to our investigators.
they are a threat to our investigators or a threat to
police. We don't know what's inside this location.
police. We don't know what's inside this location when we
responding to complaints. So we're trying.
responding to complaints. So we're trying to fix that by
allowing us to see inside the location. And again, this is
not prohibiting completely.
not prohibiting completely, uh, ah, ah, you know, uh,
closure of of of the window display area.
closure of of, of the window display area. Uh, it's only
25% so there is
25%. So there is, you know, uh, some room for for for
cover.
coverings. And there is a permit uh,
coverings. And there is a permit, uh, uh, uh, apartment
requirements. People can apply for permits.
requirements. People can apply for permits too, and the
department of
Buildings is here.
Buildings is here to answer questions about permitting.
Okay. Uh, almond Al
Okay uh almond. Almond Harris.
Almond Quezada. Almond Dow almond.
Almond Quezada, almond Dow alderman.
By chairman Dow.
By chairman, Dow chairman Harris. Um,
Alderman Fuentes and and Alderman clay.
Thank you, Mr. Almond Harris. Thank you. Um, I want to
thank everybody who took the time um, from all my
thank everybody who took the time, um, from all my City
commissioners who are sitting in the Box to say, thank you
for, um, meeting numerous times meeting
for um, meeting numerous times meeting with Irma. I want to
thank them for their leadership and their
to thank them for their leadership and their input in there
along with all the other Industries.
along with all the other industries that sat in the room to
get to the the final.
get to the the final ordinance. Um, this ordinance tends to
have, uh, polar
to have uh polarizing effect, more on, uh, the South and
the west side.
the west side of the city of Chicago. Um, we
and the west side of the city of Chicago. Um, we are
asking, um, our colleagues to support us in this effort to
help us to bring our businesses into compliance under this.
ordinance, we're simply moving over.
Be giving bacp the right to go.
Be giving bacp the right to go in and to talk to our
businesses along with that.
businesses along with that it gives
there's a break in their
There's a break in there where you have a time to cure.
so, or you
So, or you have a time to decide you're going to take
remove?
remove some window coverings or you can get a permitted?
remove some window coverings, or you can get a permitted at
a very reasonable cost to get your permit.
a very reasonable cost to get your permit but that is a a
process and so
process. And so that's why you have the 90 days. Um, in our
cases, our business, uh, uh, communities will be getting
out walking, the district from 1.
out walking, the district from 1 end to the other to, uh,
let people who are in violation of this ordinance know that
it's time to.
it's time to, uh, come into compliance. And so I think it
can be
be a great opportunity for communities to talk to their
can be a great opportunity for communities to talk to their
businesses and let them know that the sine
businesses and let them know that the sign ordinances out
there. Either if you, if you
there either if you if you are in violation of it, here are
your options. So people know, clearly what
are your options. So people know, clearly what their
options are. Um, and I think this is a perfect time to get
out there for many of us on the south side to talk to our
businesses and to help.
businesses and to help them get into compliance. So I hope
that my colleagues can support this ordinance for.
or um, a number of us, uh, on the south and the
Or um a number of us uh on the south and the West Side who
are suffering.
Thank you. Uh, almond Dao.
Uh, thank you Mr. Chairman I
Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman, I want to thank, uh my
colleague for bringing this forward, um, I have a couple of
questions,
of questions and, uh, to commissioner
does this include shelving, I have
Does this include shelving? I have stores in my community
that put furniture.
that put furniture and shelving against the windows. So you
can't see in
any obstruction.
Any obstruction into clearer view. Inside the location will
be. Um,
looked at, but
Looked at, but we are any obstruction of view.
Looked at, but we are any obstruction of view inside.
Inside the commercial establishment will be looked at, but
we are focusing here on signage.
Signage is.
Signage is a, is our main concern here?
and,
and to just to clarify the record when ultimate Conway
And to just to clarify the record. When ultimate Conway,
spoke about the curtains, let me, let me just, uh, uh, uh,
fix a record to say that this, it's, it's about signage.
We're looking into signage here, and
we're looking into signage here and window tinting but
shelving against the windows, is that
shelving against the windows is that, uh, is that or is
that not a violation?
that not a violation. If, if it's if it's, uh, if it's in a
way that we can,
way that we cannot see inside the location. Yes. Okay.
way that we cannot see inside the location? Yes. Okay. Then
we have to rearrange the, uh, the in,
we have to rearrange the, uh, the inventory and what about
stores that break up their?
stores that break up their windows. So you can't see
through that party is not included in this ordinance. I
know there has been questions about that but it's not
included in in
Orden.
This ordinance. Is that something that could be? Um,
This ordinance. Is that something that could be um, amended
maybe at a later date.
I know there was a, a building aspect Department of
buildings aspect to that.
Chairman Dow. That is something that was discussed and we
will be working on making amendments to the building code
to address.
to address that, okay? And then, lastly, um,
to address that, okay? And then lastly, um, I would like to
get a letter from B.
to get a letter from bacp that, um, I could send to
business.
businesses, uh, that a license with you.
businesses, uh, that a license with you so that they know
that this is a requirement before.
that this is a requirement before I start. Absolutely.
cracking the whip by big part of this is going to be
Outreach.
Outreach and education. All right, more more more more than
Outreach and education. All right. More more more than than
uh, being punitive if we want the community.
uh, being punitive if we want the community the business
Community to to to, to know,
Community to to to, to know. Uh, what this uh,
Community to to to to know uh what this uh ordinance
requires. And then we'll be very actively working on that.
All right, with all the Departments, thank you. So I um
want to thank again. Thank you alderman.
want to thank again. Thank you Alderman Harris.
NBA CPN.
NBA CPN Department of buildings for uh, putting this forth.
I'll be voting in favor of this today.
Alderman Fuentes.
In the outer man. Kuzar. Thank you. Chairman uh,
In the outer man, kuzar. Thank you. Chairman uh,
commissioner kapalik. Can you tell us all of the business
licenses under title 4? That
licenses under title 4 that will be impacted by this
ordinance?
The way it is.
The way it is presented all title, all all businesses.
The way it is presented all title, all all businesses on
their title 4. So that every every licensee in the city,
their title 4, so that every every licensee in the city of
Chicago, so all title 4. Can you explain to this body? What
is title? 4 title 4 is
is title? 4 title, 4 is the license. I'm sorry. The
licensing section of the municipal code. That's what gives
the authority to be ACB. Uh,
the authority to be ACB, uh, to license to issue licenses.
So, is the entire section 4?
so, my concern here is, I mean,
we're we're talking every single business, you're
we're, we're talking every single business, you're talking
your salons, your barber shops, your grooming locations,
We're not just talking about businesses that also increase
risk of sort of any incidents of violence. We're we're
talking about all businesses, my concern in particular,
for the small businesses, uh,
That I represent, right? I don't have a lot of big.
That I represent, right? I don't have a lot of big box
industry in the 26 word. I have
industry in the 26 word, I have mom and pop businesses, uh,
like your grocery stores, uh, your bodegas, your
shops, um, with just 25.
shops. Um, with just 25%, having to sort of trigger,
permitting process, uh, for me feels like creating more red
tape for small businesses, right? They go.
tape for small businesses, right? They go to the licensing
process. They have to get a lot of permits.
process, they have to get a lot of permits, uh, and pay a
lot of fees for a lot of things.
is another fee, another process that they have to
Is another fee. Another process that they have to undergo to
be able to function. And to also utilize sort of the
be able to function, and to also utilize sort of the, their
windows and their property. Uh, as a mode of advertisement
right now, I'm not opposed to ensuring that we have a line.
of sight in the business because I think that we, we
of sight in the business because I think that we we should
be able to see things that are happening inside.
be able to see things that are happening inside uh because
it's the way we keep people safe, right? But I think about
my office, for example, I tint.
my office, for example, I tented my windows and I have
blinds
Because that's also my Public Safety.
Public Safety is a 2-way street.
Public Safety is a 2-way street, and I think with this,
certain threshold,
and triggering a
And triggering a permitting process.
I think the threshold is too low, it creates more
financial.
I think the threshold is too low, it creates more financial
burden for small businesses.
But it's only.
But it's only thinking about Public Safety from a 1-way
Avenue.
Avenue and not a 2-way street.
I think that there is a way for us to meet in a place where
it can work.
it can work for everybody. But right now I'm thinking about
all of the businesses on North Avenue and on Armitage.
all of the businesses on North Avenue and on Armitage my
small grocery stores that utilize window opportunities to
be able to advertise prices.
be able to advertise prices for their goods, right? Because
they don't have a $20,000 budget for comms and marketing.
They had their windows.
and,
And so I'm I'm really concerned about the financial impact
I'm concern.
impact. I'm concerned about the marketing impact, uh, for
our businesses.
businesses. I don't know if I could get here today. Um,
I would like, for us to take some time to to
I would like for us to take some time to to meet in the
middle on this and maybe make some further Amendment.
middle on this and maybe make some further amendments. Um,
I also want to I know that you all have met with Ma and I
know we've got them to a place of neutral.
know we've got them to a place of neutrality and so I want
to acknowledge that you all have spent a lot of time
meeting with folks. I want to thank you for that.
meeting with folks. I want to thank you for that sort of
collaborative effort. Uh, but I'm, I'm still
collaborative effort, uh, but I'm, I'm still, I'm still a
bit concerned.
I I appreciate that.
I, I appreciate that all the women. Um, I just want to
remind this body that this is already in place. This
ordinance exists.
ordinance exists already and the requirement the 25%
requirement.
requirement, it's already in the books. It's been for a
long time. It's just given bacp the authority to enforce.
and it's adding the tinting windows.
Um, there are exemptions uh, to child care. FAQ
um, there are exemptions uh, to child care facilities or
exemptions to cannabis dispensaries and there are
exceptions to, uh, hotels in this version. But this
ordinance is already in the books.
Thank you Alderman Quezada.
um, and
Um, and thank you, commissioner and thank you to my
colleagues who brought this item forward? I, I understand.
the the nature of what we're trying to address here but
the the nature of what we're trying to address here, but as
my colleague just said, I think there are some different
um, conditions and variables between neighborhood.
neighborhoods. And the last thing we want is for people.
last thing we want is for people who have not caused or not
contributed to any public safety.
Issues to somehow be inadvertently. Um, affected. And I
think 1 of the, the narratives that is being misconstrued
right now. Uh, and I think being misunderstood is that
there are people in their local small businesses who are
perceiving this as a money, grab from the city. And
perceiving this as a money grab from the city. And there
are a lot of small businesses that are in compliance. Um,
are a lot of small businesses that are in compliance um or
believe that they're in compliance. But are now worried
that there will
there will be out of compliance. And so that's why I think
that this conversation is
think that this conversation is very, very important that
we take our time and understanding, who would be
we take our time and understanding who would be affected?
Who would not be affected. So commissioner.
Who would not be affected. So, commissioner, uh, there was
a, a statement that, um, that 1 of my businesses in my
ward, ugh, Flur, who's a flower?
ward, ugh, Flur, who's a flower company? Uh, provided, uh,
they, they put on social,
they, they put on social media. I'd like to read it out,
uh, and I'd like, for you to answer
and I'd like, for you to answer some of the the points that
they make here. So they say, quote, the ordinance would
limit window coverage to just 25% and ban what it calls
obstructed items but doesn't clearly Define
obstructed items. But doesn't clearly Define what that even
means that kind of vague language.
means that kind of vague language could lead to
inconsistent rules on Fair.
inconsistent rules. Unfair penalties up to 500 per day and
a lot of confusion for already.
overwhelmed, small business owners, but even more than
that, it would erase the creative personal displays.
that, it would erase the creative personal displays, that
brings so much character to our neighborhoods window
display.
displays aren't just about marketing. They've always been
about and they've always been an extension of our identity.
They helped tell us tell our story reflect our values.
They helped tell us, tell our story reflect our values and
connect us to our community 1 of our favorite examples.
connect us to our community 1 of our favorite examples is
Halloween. Every year, we put together a themed windows
display that has sparked so much joy. Not
display that has sparked so much joy, not just for us, but
for our neighbors, it's encouraged.
Um, by other local businesses to decorate, too.
Um, by other local businesses to decorate, too, and the
block becomes this fund vibrant quarter.
becomes this fund vibrant quarter, that feels alive last
year. The decorations made local news
year, the decorations made local news, and we saw more
people coming out walking around.
people coming out walking around and shopping. Small, that
energy is hard to measure, but it's real and it matters
right now, we're already navigating so many.
right now, we're already navigating so many challenges
Rising costs increasing rents ongoing.
Rising costs, increasing rents ongoing construction, and
the loss of parking due to new bike Lanes, which I want to
clear. We support. My husband loves them. This is a 35
Ward issue and I'm grateful and uh, adding much more has a
safe way to commute, but adding another layer of restr
restriction at this moment, feels a step in the wrong
direction. We understand the need for thoughtful, design
and safety. But we also believe there's room for that
alongside the creativity personality.
alongside the creativity personality and individuality that
makes small businesses so special. So um, how would you
respond to that, especially
you respond to that, especially with, you know, their, um,
their approach to utilizing their their windows for
decorative? Uh, measures? Would they be penalized? Yeah,
no. So this is not what we're looking for all the men, but
we're not going to come.
we're not going to come after.
Festive decorations. We're looking at.
Festive decorations. We're looking at excessive signage,
excessive tinted, windows, where we can.
excessive tinted windows, where we cannot see inside the
location. We know this place for Christmas or Halloween,
our our seasonal, our temporary. We're not going to be
looking at that. So, but
looking at that. So but is that clearly defined like
festive, signage, or painting?
festive, signage or painting window painting?
It's not specifically defined.
it's not specifically defined in this version of the
ordinance, then I believe that it should be
ordinance and I believe that it should be. But remember
this ordinance gives bacp the authority and the freedom.
Well, not the freedom, the flexibility to address.
Well, not the freedom, the flexibility to address an issue.
So we say, for example, we got to complain in a business
like that. An investigator can visit that location. Assess
the issue and make a decision. Whether there is a 10-day
there's a violation or not
Right.
I guess, you know, imagine a business that paints their
whole window and you can't look in again, you they. But
they would technically be breaking the rule. Again, if
you're break, if you're painting.
you're break, if you're painting all your window display
area. Yeah, then there's a problem.
area. Yeah. Then there's a problem. If you're only using
25% of that,
With a permit. Then there's you know, right? And and the
permit requirement is is is it exists?
permit requirement is is is it exists, this is not new so
what? Okay, so hyp
what, okay, so hypothetically just so that we we're getting
to the kind of root of this situation. A business, pains
50%, um,
pains 50%, um, of their Windows. They technically be in
violation, right?
Right. Right. So that that that would
Right, right. So that that that would require they would
apply for a permit through the uh, Department of buildings
that will review the application. And then
that will review the application, and then issue or deny
the permit based based on the application, right?
information.
So this is not a no. I mean, there is a permit uh way out of
this.
this permitted way out of this. They just have to go
through that again. Something that is already in the books.
Got it. Thank you.
Thank you, alderman.
Thank you almond. Almond Larson.
Thank you chairman. Um,
Some.
Some we've gone through this. So um, I had a business that
had too much stuff in their Windows. Um, we worked with
them to keep it clear. Actually, they had too many ads
period um in what places that weren't Windows. Um, it's
period. Um, in what places that weren't Windows. Um, it's a
liquor license. We worked with them. They have a plan of
oper.
operation that spells out exactly where sign.
operation that spells out exactly where signage can be and
what windows need to be open. What's different now from
what we did with that business 5,
what we did with that business 5 6 years ago,
If we cannot see.
if we cannot see inside the location because the hats are
covering the entire window, we will ask that business owner
within 10 days.
within 10 days to re re rearrange the window display.
within 10 days to re re rearrange the window, display area,
so that we can see inside. So the 10-day warning,
so that we can see inside. So the 10-day warning is new.
Yes. Okay, because their warning is new. Yes, this was a
massive few years ago and I I remember I I told
massive few years ago, and I I remember I, I told uh,
commissioner about, right? This it was when commissioner
Friedland was at buildings, I will say, I think signs are
messy anyway because I
messy anyway, because I think there's 3 or 4 departments
involved.
involved that are all in the Box. Um, and it's very hard
for a business owner who, you know, this should be easy,
right? And we make, we make signs difficult. We're
to look at everything. That's over 100 square feet,
differently and the measurements I think are changing. So I
I just whatever we do here.
Has to be very, very clear. Because the last time, this was
enforced. It was a mess. Um, again,
enforced, it was a mess. Um, again, I I commend
commissioner Freeland for coming in and clearing up,
cleaning it up.
the time. Um, and I think there's opportunities to work
with business.
with businesses but we're really going to have to be on the
front end. And as soon as it
front end and as soon as it starts to get punitive, we're
going to have to have a serious conversation about.
going to have to have a serious conversation about what we
are doing to small businesses. The additional costs we
are doing to small businesses, the additional costs, we
continue to add to them um, and regulations. So I I I know
there's good faith behind this for my colleagues. I think
there could have been a little bit more conversation and I
know it's a long meeting. So I'll stop.
and I know it's a long meeting, so I'll stop there. Um, but
thank you. Mr. Chair.
Just to add to that. Um, you know, the 1 of the core
missions of bacp is to support.
missions of bacp is to support small businesses, but
Public, Safety is part of that too.
Public, Safety is part of that, too. Uh, we're not looking
into being punitive, we stop being very punitive a while
ago and where we serve that, right?
ago and where we serve that right? When we see egregious
violations, we come if we come into
violations, we come, if we come into a, a business that is
covering that has window covers cover.
covering that has window covers covered uh or excessive
tinted windows. We will work.
tinted windows, we will work with them.
Um, to remediate that.
Um, to remediate that problem, before we we before we even
consider citation. So the
consider citation, so the 10 day is on the books but in the
business is showing good faith.
We also have the flexibility to extend that time.
Thank you Alderman. Clay.
See.
Okay, I exist. Thank you so much chairman.
Okay, I exist. Thank you so much chairman, uh obviously want
to first, thank you for your service to this.
to first, thank you for your service to this Council. You
have been a tremendous help to a new Alder like myself and
I just want to give you a flowers while you're here. So
thank you so much for that. Um, I have a couple questions
about this ordinance because I've gotten some Outreach from
my businesses, and I just want to make sure that I am as
clear as possible. Um, number 1, why are cannabis
businesses?
businesses and childcare and hotels? The only carve outs
uh, cannabis are the, the
South cannabis is specific to.
South cannabis is specific to the state.
The state of Illinois.
The state of Illinois, license us cannabis uh location. So,
So, uh, I think part of the requirement for a cannabis
location is to be obscured.
Yeah. Uh, yes.
Elder woman, I can. Yeah, I just can piggy back off of
commissioner's uh statement.
commissioner's. Uh, statement, the, the state does have
requirements for the exteriors of uh dispensaries and so we
didn't want to get be in conflict with state statute.
didn't want to get be in conflict with State Statute um to
to carry forward, child service.
to carry forward, child service facilities. So think like
your daycares there might be children sleeping in Windows
and we didn't want um,
and we didn't want um to encourage like loitering and um on
the children. And then um some of our
on the children. And then um, some of our small boot boat,
some of our small bout.
some of our small boutique hotels. Um, have, uh, res.
residences on the first.
first and second floor, and we didn't want to be in conflict
with kind of like dwelling units and those hotels, I do
want to um also just kind of highlight that um while those
those are specific exemptions, I I want to stress that the
only businesses licensed under title.
only businesses licensed under title 4 of the Chicago
Municipal Code would fall under this.
Municipal Code would fall under this ordinance so you know,
certain activities that might be licensed by.
know, certain activities that might be licensed by the
state wouldn't fall under that. That it's only business.
activities that are licensed by the city. So um, Medical
activities that are licensed by the city. So, um, medical
service facilities, um, in most situations with
service facilities um, in most situations wouldn't fall
here. So I I just want those. Aren't those aren't
explicitly.
explicitly like carved out in this, um, substitute. But
they don't, they're not impacted because we we don't
license them.
Thank you for that Clarity. I think.
Thank you for that Clarity. I think as we're going through
this, that's going to be crucial to me.
this, that's going to be crucial to me communicating with
my community is that carve out.
my community. Is that carve out, right? Because again, um,
what I'm hearing from my business owners is that they feel
like we are just Jam packing them with a lot of changes in
this.
this last year, y'all, whether that's increase to tips.
this last year, y'all, whether that's increase to tips
whether everything that we have done,
whether everything that we have done on this Council in the
last year, when it comes to businesses,
last year, when it comes to businesses is overwhelming
them, right? And so, I want us to have that reality and
also have the clarity, so that they don't think that we
don't want their businesses to thrive.
want their businesses to thrive. Um, my other question is
What is enforcement look like, right? Because you say 25% of
a window and I'm like are
a window and I'm like, are you going out with rulers
measuring tapes? How does this what
measuring tapes? How does this, what does enforcement look
like?
Good afternoon.
So, the building code,
so, the building code currently in Chapter 13 requires
So the building code currently in Chapter 13, requires any
signage, that's greater than 25%.
signage, that's greater than 25% of the total window space
to be permitted. So, as commissioner Kap,
to be permitted. So as commissioner kapali stated, we're
going to work collaboratively together.
going to work collaboratively together to
do.
Do a public campaign to inform the business?
Do a public campaign to inform the businesses in the
business Corridor City?
business. Corridor Citywide of the cold requirements,
business, Corridor Citywide of the cold requirements and
we're going to give them an opportunity.
we're going to give them an opportunity to come into
compliance. So, there is no.
compliance. So, there is no enforcement at this time. It is
working.
working collaboratively to ensure that they are aware of.
what the coal requirements are. And to provide
what the coal requirements are, and to provide them with an
opportunity to address the to correct self-correct
themselves.
themselves to come into compliance with the code that which
allows them to have 25% of their Windows cover.
allows them to have 25% of their Windows covered. But if
they want anything greater than that, 25,
they want anything greater than that, 25%, pursuant to the
coal requirement. They
coal requirement, they would then be required to apply for
a permit. Thank you for that Clarity, commissioner Hopkins
and just 1 that note, if there is no, um, clear enforcement
here, what does it look like for?
here, what does it look like for bad?
Factors for businesses that you can't get in contact.
Factors for businesses that you can't get in contact with
that have their Windows covered. What is what?
that have their Windows covered. What is, what does that
look like so bad actors?
look like so bad actors that fail to respond to the?
Outreach? That that's informing them.
Outreach? That that's informing them of the code
requirements? Will then be subject?
requirements will then be subject to enforcement action.
And and
and other women. It's going to be complaints driven so
we're not.
we're not going to be out there in a specifically looking
for this. It is is if we got a complaint from this body or
from members of the community,
from members of the community will address it. Um,
the 10-day period again like
The 10-day period. Again like I mentioned before, that's
it. Is codified. Uh it
it, is codified. Uh, it will if if it passes it will be
codified. But again, if if the business is showing good
faith, uh and they need more time.
faith, uh and they need more time to, you know,
Resolve the problem. We'll, we'll have to work with them.
Thank you. Um, I think you've also
Thank you. Um I think you've also just brought up another
issue for myself.
issue for myself and my neck of the woods is the complaint
driven aspect. A lot of businesses are fearful that this
will be a tactic used to just get B
will be a tactic used to just get bacp out and have a
presence. Um, so I'm I'm very worried about this, you all?
Because again, I live in a community that is extremely
diverse. We have over 40 different languages spoken, many
ethnic restaurants, read, everything is in my word. Um, and
I'm very frightful that 1 that this could be a tool used
against our small businesses. Um,
If uh, consumer is mad.
If uh, consumer is mad for whatever reason. Um, I also think
that this
think that this will have a huge impact on the culture of
some of our businesses.
some of our businesses, right? Because they do rely on
their front-facing.
their front-facing Windows to be that. Um,
To.
To be their arm of advertising, right? I'm even thinking
about some things as simple as we do. My
about some things, as simple as we do. My Chamber of
Commerce, does what they call a winter, walk on Wilson,
Commerce, does what they call a winter walk on Wilson and
they have artists go out to highlight.
they have artists go out to highlight these small
businesses and what they do is they paint the windows,
right? So those are some of the things.
right? So those are some of the things that I would love
to. Just make sure that we are
just make sure that we are clear on when we are actually
trying to
actually trying to make this go through, I understand the
public safety.
safety piece but then I'm also I have a big box store like
Target.
Target who has majority of their Windows covered but you
can
covered, but you can still see in, right? So I, I just want
to
sure that we get this tight as possible and that we're not
negatively impacting the same businesses that we want to.
make sure thrive in our community. So,
make sure thrive in our community. So thank you for that. I
appreciate that. That's my question Sharon.
other woman, if I,
other woman, if I could just chime in commissioner bolt
Wright from dpd, I appreciate your your question
specifically around the local Chambers and in the spirit of
partnership with DLB and B.
partnership with DLB and bacp 1 thing. That's really
important to us is the friendly door knocking.
important to us is the friendly door knocking, our ba, our,
um, ssas and our local.
um, ssas and our local Chambers and our Corridor managers
our boots on the ground, right? The friendly relationships
between business, in addition to dobs team and bacp team.
And so we
and so we want to educate and use our Chambers to your
point to make sure that the businesses know what's allowed
and what isn't allowed to really reinforce, the fact that
the ordinance already
the ordinance is already exists and there, they haven't
really been compliant.
really been compliant with the ordinance but this is the
opportunity to clean it up and this is what it looks like.
And so I just wanted to take a moment to talk about the
importance of us leveraging. The relationships that we have
both at De dpd, bacp and DLB to do the friendly door, knock
and to just educate our businesses.
and to just educate our businesses, the goal is not to be
punitive. The goal is to ensure that we have aesthetically
pleasing corridors um,
pleasing corridors um that you know, welcome the foot
traffic.
That, that our neighbor.
That that our neighborhoods are known for.
and,
And older women. I also just want to jump in and do a quick
step.
step back. So just as a reminder, the ordinance incl.
step back. So, just as a reminder, the ordinance includes
like a 90-day, uh, you know, Passage
like a 90-day, uh, you know, passage in publication, uh,
execution. So,
execution. So that's that gives all 3 departments time to
work together.
work together on getting the message out, working with our
bsos.
bso's, the city working with Corridor managers uh, through
tpd to educate them working with this body to educate.
uh, businesses, um, in addition to that,
Businesses. Um, in addition to that 90-day kind of execution
Point. There's a a
Point. There's a, a 10-day notice to correct in perpet.
perpetuity
so, um, again there's, there's
so, um, again, there's, there's no effort here to be super
punitive and then I guess the last thing I'll say is we're
already working, you know.
already working. You know, assuming that things like this
pass, we have our regular
this pass, we have our regular shy Biz chat. I've been
asked to, like, present kind of
like present kind of legislative updates on behalf of the
like,
like the ACP to the business Community, specifically our BS
BS.
specifically our BS BSO leaders. And so those things are
already in motion, you know?
already in motion, you know, this ordinance or and others.
Thank you for that. I appreciate the cross collaboration.
Obviously, this is something that a lot of us.
Obviously, this is something that a lot of us want to make
sure that is not negatively impacting our business.
Corridors, you all because we need them. Um, I just want to
make sure that that education piece is there. I think that
that's what is really catching me. And a lot of my small
businesses I've got is the education.
small businesses I've got is the education piece, right?
And the fact that we are just constantly rolling out things
that they have to comply with, right? And so yes, we want
to make sure that this is tight but we also just don't want
to overburden them.
With more things that they have to come.
with more things that they have to come into compliance with
that will then take away from their profit and their
ability to grow their business. So, thank you for that.
All right.
All right, thank you. So this is the first round. So,
All right, thank you. So this is the first round. So we
have more Hall.
Lee hoppenworth Wagers back. Then, in second round, we have
Harris and Fuentes.
Okay, more.
Okay. More Alderman, Moore you thank you chairman.
Okay. More Alderman, Moore. You. Thank you, chairman. I
appreciate this ordinance. Um,
Something sometimes I think see things a little different,
I think.
I think this is real simple. And this is where, um,
I think this is real simple and this is where, um, where
people call automatic corroborative but I
people call automatic corroborative, but I prerogative but
I call representing my con.
I call representing my constituents in my ward, which
includes my businesses who are my constituents as well, and
I don't know if it's in the ordinance but I, if we don't
have a lot,
have a lot of inspectors at bacp and people to be wasting
time, I think at the end of the day, she just as, as as
come from a complaint, from an alderman, that's the bottom
line.
and so if, if that ultimate don't complain about
And so if if that ultimate don't complain about it, don't
touch them, don't do anything.
touch them. Don't do anything. I don't want my, I don't
want bacp out there doing work that they don't have to do
and all that stuff, so, it should be in
and all that stuff. So, it should be in that ordinance. If
a complaint comes from the alderman.
and so the ottoman knows their award, they know their
business,
businesses so that if in Conway's case there's curtains, he
ain't calling on the curtain.
In the case of ultimate clay.
In the case of ultimate clay, she not calling on. If they
spray painting windows,
That's the simple way to do it. And so, just put it on.
That's the simple way to do it and so, just put it on our
only. If the ultimate complaints, do you then
only. If the ultimate complaints, do you, then address this
situation and everything is cool.
So that's up to you all. If you all want to put that
language,
language in there, I mean, I'm okay with it. Where, where
it is?
is, but to tell help my colleague, just put that language
in there.
in there and let's be done with this bless you.
Alderman Hall.
Thank you so much Mr. Chair.
Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. I have a question to um,
commissioner Ivan. My um constituents matter of fact I
could watch him so
watch him so this would be a great public exercise. Someone
was shot and killed.
Someone was shot and killed on 79th in King Drive at the
gas station.
gas station, I called, you know, response.
so, I want the people in the 6 world to know since the
windows at this gas station, they have.
windows at this gas station, they have advertisement from
top to bottom. You can't see in it.
so, how
So how since we haven't passed this yet?
So how since we haven't passed this yet and no response
from your office? How do we handle this in the context of
the new ordinance?
the new ordinance versus also? What we need to do now?
Uh, other than my apologies.
Uh, other than my apologies, when you called I, I was out of
the office for, uh, for a week or so.
the office for, uh, for a week or so, uh, I just returned
but, um,
after a violence incident like that, you know, we work with
CPD to address those issues, hence, the summary closure
CPD to address those issues. Hence, the summary closure.
Um,
As part of the investigation, we can definitely.
as part of the investigation, we can definitely work with
dpd because right now it is under the
dpd because right now, it is under the dpd authority to
enforce this.
enforce this section. But we're trying to do is add vcp to
what's already in place. So I'll work with commissioner
Hopkins. Here to address.
Hopkins here to address that location on 79th.
No. So the the question is again so since
No. So the the question is again, so since they have
everything from top to bottom,
everything from top to bottom with advertisement, how does
this ordinance help?
this ordinance help us stop?
Those.
Those businesses from putting stuff from top to bottom.
those businesses from putting stuff from top to bottom
where you can't see in, because the alleged drug usage.
Yes. Uh selling. I'm sorry. It's coming from the inside. So
they're selling it from the inside behind
So they're selling it from the inside behind the the
counter. So how would this ordinance?
So how would this ordinance as proposed? Help our
community.
community alleviate problems like that.
the way that we're trying to implement this new ordinance,
this new uh language is going to prohibit that so only 25%
can be can be covered with a permit sign.
uh, the way it is right now without
Uh, the way it is right now without this ordinance. Without
this uh, substitute the department of
this uh substitute the department of buildings, can enforce
that.
Got you? So
To that end in concluding similar to what?
To that end in concluding similar to what my colleagues
said about decals on Windows and offices.
said about decals on Windows and offices, so forth, and so
on, there's a building on 13.
on. There's a building on 13 East 83rd Street where you
can't see in it at all. It's 100% tent. So does this or
ordinance then to your, in your opinion,
ordinance then to your in your opinion help again with
Community who's concerned about what's going on behind the
glass.
glass? Does this ordinance advocate for what would be best
practices?
practices for communities with 100% tent on the window?
if it's a business title under license, on their
if it's a business title under license on their title 4 yes
okay, a tinted windows have to come down. Okay, I just want
the residents to know so thank you. No problem.
What was?
What was that location again?
Alderman, what was the location again? 7910 yeah, 7900
South King, Drive to
South King Drive to BP on the corner. They have stuff from
the top to the bottom and they lock the door sometime, so
you can't get in. And then
you can't get in and then on 13 East 83rd Street is next to
a bar.
a barber shop. You don't even know what's going on in
there, okay?
And it's a tax place.
Oh, that's it.
All right. Thank you, alderman.
All right. Thank you Alderman. So, um,
Alderman. Lee.
Non-.
Non-committee members.
Thank you, chair.
Thank you chair. Um, I'm gonna save your flowers for
tomorrow.
So I'm not gonna do that right now, but I think you're
awesome. Yes. Um, couple questions I and I, I
awesome. Yes. Um, couple questions I and I I was part of a,
a at least 1 additional conversation. I really
a, a at least 1 additional conversation. I really
appreciate, uh, my colleagues for, for, bringing this up
and
I understand the the acute nature of the issues that
I understand the, the acute nature of the issues that
they're dealing with, and it's not that this problem
doesn't exist.
doesn't exist in other places in and around the city. Um,
and I know that some changes have been made to this can
and I know that some changes have been made to. This can
commissioner, can you clarify for me? Um,
commissioner. Can you clarify for me? Um, what the the
policies is? Uh, or
policies is, uh, or according to this substitute here, or
this ordinance, with the amendment?
ordinance with the Amendments, um, 25% of each window or
it 25% of the aggregate window?
is it 25% of the aggregate window spaces?
I order a woman, it is 25% of the aggregate 25% of the
aggregate. Okay. Thank you.
aggregate. Okay, thank you. And I I appreciate that because
at 1 point, it was 25% of each window. And I think that's
that's a pretty high bar. Um, you know, I share a lot of
the same concerns as my colleagues from.
the same concerns as my colleagues. From a small business
perspective. I did a ride around the ward.
perspective. I did a ride around the ward, um, just to see
kind of what we'd be dealing with from a comp.
kind of what we'd be dealing with from a compliance
perspective. And I, I understand that this has been on the
books, um, but by virtue of the fact that we haven't
enforced it. Broadly, um, it will land for some business
owners as sort of more punitive and so I can appreciate
that. We're, we're trying to get people to compliance. So
in that um, what are we looking at?
that um what are we looking at in terms of Outreach to
businesses and the number of languages,
to businesses and the number of languages. Obviously, you
know, I I represent Chinatown as well. Um, there are a lot
of non-native English speakers that are running businesses
and then who cater to an audience um who are also
non-native English speakers. So you know, I would love to
to hear a little bit more about the efforts and what we're
going to put forward to ensure that uh, people are
Aware uh, Alderman Lawson. Mentioned it earlier, you know,
the the sign ordinances and the requirements for permits
its confus.
it's confusing. Um, and you know what we don't want is a
situation where, you know, people are really being. Um,
situation where, you know, people are really being. Um we
don't want to punish the people who frankly are ignorant.
don't want to punish the people who frankly are ignorant to
it and we need to be able to provide that level of
Education.
Sure. No, I mean, we'll be happy to work with your office,
you know, we've we've translated many documents in
traditional Chinese.
traditional Chinese uh, to address your constituents. So we
will do the same.
will do the same here.
and then, um,
as far as, uh,
the exceptions to this, I
I would love a little bit more time to to sort of flesh
out.
more of the the potential exemptions you know. Um you know
a hair salon might have some curtains or shears that are in
the front of the window, really?
are in the front of the window, really to keep the Sun out.
I mean, that's all so a factor from a practical.
I mean, that's all, so a factor from a practical
perspective, depending on which way your your property.
perspective, depending on which way your your property is
facing. You know, you might want window shades just so that
your
that your air conditioning Bill isn't as high at the end of
the day. It's not about just to clarify other women. This
is about science.
about science science, not Shades or Shades and curtains.
So I just want to make that
curtains. So I just want to make that clarification. Okay,
from the alderman, Conway's question at the beginning,
from the alderman, Conway's question at the beginning.
Thank you, talking about signage and tinted windows. Yeah,
I
uh, the clarification but, um,
Uh, the clarification. But, um, I would love to have a
little bit more time. I'm not a voting member of this
committee. Let me be clear.
committee. Let me be clear, but I, I think I'm half of the
businesses in my community and to make sure that we are
putting together a policy that works City.
putting together a policy that works Citywide. Um we could
use, we could benefit from a little bit.
use, we could benefit from a little bit more time to sort
of flush out a little bit more of the details in terms.
little bit more of the details in terms of potential
exemptions and and how that would work. That's all I've
got. Thank you chair.
Thank you.
Are.
Woman.
Thank you.
Thank you, chair.
I want to first thank.
I want to first, thank departments, bacp, and D.
I want to first thank departments, bacp, and dpd for being
here and also for visiting the ward, we really appreciate
it, especially in the 48th board.
it, especially in the 48th board where I believe we have
the most corridors with locally owned small.
the most corridors with locally owned small business owners
who actually live in the neighborhoods including myself. So
I'm I'm also a small business owner in Andersonville and I
have been in the same building for uh several decades. The
basement the first floor, now the second floor and I know
the value.
the value that uh window can have for a small business
especially like a a a mom and pop like mine.
especially like a, a, a mom and pop like mine and and so I
I,
I appreciate also the reason why we're bringing this
forward, I understand it's it is to address public.
forward, I understand it's it is to address Public Safety,
you know. But since since I have been representing the 48th
Ward and we of, of course have had our um,
Our rashes of Smash and grabs.
Our rashes of Smash and grabs in the neighborhoods.
you know, I I want to point
you know, I, I want to point out that um, CPD has has also
recommended for small businesses to actually put things in
their Windows to prevent further, Smash and grab. So I just
wanted to point that out.
wanted to point that out as a contradiction here. Um, in
terms of how we're dealing with Public Safety,
terms of how we're dealing with Public Safety in our
Awards,
Also want to put on.
also want to put on record that, um, our
Chambers of Commerce are local chambers of
Chambers of Commerce are local. Chambers of Commerce are
have real deep.
have real deep concerns about this ordinance. And
have real deep concerns about this ordinance and how also
in the spirit of collaboration, we are putting this forward
and it feels that this it feels that this is not in line.
and it feels that this it feels that this is not in line
with our commitment to cut the red tape, especially for
small businesses.
for small businesses, it it does not feel collaborative, it
does not feel like there's a lot of communic.
does not feel like there's a lot of communication between
departments and
Local Chambers of Commerce of which we are.
Local Chambers of Commerce of which we are working hand in
hand with to make our communities safer.
So I I just wanted to put that out there.
So I I just wanted to put that out there and also I I'm not
on this on this.
on this on this committee, but I felt the need to come
because again to thank you.
because again, to thank you for coming to the ward. It's
really important for you to show up.
really important for you to show up and to, for for our
small business to know that.
small business to know that you that you are available, um,
as we move forward. But I do want to, I do want to ask a
little bit.
little bit about the, the shy
Business chats. Is that when you um, say that?
business chats is that when you um say that you're updating
uh folks about the legislative up
updating, uh, folks about the legislative updates, I just
want to know is was this communic?
want to know is was this communicated considered as a topic
of discussion at all, um, before this hearing?
topic of discussion at all, um, before this hearing? Sure
Chris, yeah, thanks alderwoman. Uh, Chris Joseph.
yeah, thanks alderwoman. Uh, Chris Joseph assistant,
commissioner bacp, I kept forgetting to introduce myself
earlier. Um, the shiz chat is something that we regularly.
do here at bacp through our small business advocacy team.
do here at bacp through our small business, advocacy team
and it brings in all of our um, Business Service
organizations. So like your Chambers, um,
organizations. So, like your Chambers, um, many of which
are in your award, um, that we uh, work with give grants
to, to provide services.
to provide services, um, in support of bac's mission. Um,
so the
Um, so the shy is chat is something that's coming up. It's,
it's kind of like,
it's kind of like an executive session for the executive
team.
executive teams of those bsos and the small business
advocacy.
teams of those bsos and the small business advocacy team
here at bacp wants to make sure that just going forward.
When there are big, legislative changes or updates.
When there are big, legislative changes or updates, someone
like me or the commission,
Gerald is available to update.
Gerald is available to update them. So, first and foremost
think, like, office of Labor.
think like office of labor standards, updates that happened
on July 1st, that'll be a big topic.
on July 1st. That'll be a big topic of discussion and
office of labor. Standards will be there.
office of labor. Standards will be there, should something
like this pass or, you know, anything that um, that would
that this body does um, that impact.
that this body does um that impacts um, small businesses in
Chicago. We want to use our bsos and those Partnerships to
help get the message out. So that that was why I referenced
the shy this chat earlier.
So do you meet? Do you meet monthly when when do these
meetings take place? Oh, I'm so sorry. I think the
meetings take place? Oh I'm so sorry. I think the meetings
happen so there are meetings regular
happen. So there are meetings where regular throughout the
year, that formal body, where they all come together is.
year, that formal body, where they all come together is a
requirement of the grant opportunity that they get. And I
think there are like 4 different meetings with different.
think there are like 4, different meetings, with different
like agenda templates, uh,
like agenda templates, uh but the shy is chat is I'll I'll
pass. It's a convening of Chambers of Commerce at Elder
woman. It's the next 1 is July 21st. It's next Monday and
all. All all of our delegated agencies are invited.
all, all all of our delegated agencies are invited and we
have a speakers we have breakout rooms.
have a speakers we have breakout rooms and we discuss
different topics. Safety is usually 1 that we always keep
but but commissioner
but, but commissioner was this topic discussed at the last
it is. And the last 1 know this is this is, this is
it is. And the last 1 know, this is, this is, this is new
but it's, it will be part of the Round Table discussion and
breakout rooms. In this 1 here. June 21st, I would
breakout rooms in this 1 here, June 21st, I would, I would
like, I would like us to do better to communicate.
like, I would like us to do better to communicate these
These initiatives before.
These initiatives before they're heard in in in committee.
committee, um, I, I have to answer to them and they, they,
we have to work hand in hand. And I, I just don't feel
work hand in hand and I, I just don't feel that this has
been a collaborative process. Sure. So I would like,
been a collaborative process. Sure. So I would like us to
do better for that, no problem. We were dealing with.
do better for that, no problem. We were dealing with the
Coalition that included Chicago, land chamber.
Coalition. That included Chicago, land chamber, Arma, um,
uh, there were other members um, you know as part of this
conversation. So we we did have industry represented during
this this conversation for for a while. So we had multiple
meetings.
So we had multiple meetings.
thank you, and then um, just
Thank you. And then um just is the specific question. Can
you tell me?
you tell me if these
Businesses are.
Businesses are exempt domestic violence, prevention.
Businesses are exempt domestic violence, prevention
organizations, Mental Health Providers. Add
organizations, Mental Health Providers, addiction recovery
Specialists, physical therapist. Doctor's office. Are those
doctor's offices that are not anything. That is not.
doctor's offices that are not anything. That is not
licensed by title 4. So a doctor's office is low offices,
uh, a profession.
uh, a professional.
yeah, if if uh, hair salons if
yeah, if if, uh, hair salons, if they don't have an lbl a
limited business license for retail safe to sell products.
They're not they're not.
They're not, they're not licensed by bacp. So, anything
that is not
is not licensed on their title 4. Well, it's not covered.
Thank you. Uh, politicians. Offices are not are not part of
it either. Okay, thank you and, and again, I just want to
reiterate that. I, I don't,
reiterate that. I, I don't feel like this is a initiative
that reflects on the values to cut the red tape, especially
for small business.
for small businesses, especially when we're talking about,
signage and permits. Um, they already see this as a very,
um, costly and unwieldy and cumbersome process.
um, costly and unwieldy, and cumbersome process and to add
this on top of it. And I, I
this on top of it. And I I again to clarify, this is
already a requirement. And I believe,
already a requirement and I believe it's an Express permit,
right? It's a, it's a easy is
right? It's a, it's a easy. Is it, is it permit?
Commissioner, uh,
commissioner, uh, commissioner, can you speak up a little
bit more? I apologize. I just want to remind this body that
this is already a requirement. It's just adding bacp,
because the way it is right now, it is only uh, enforced by
by by Department of buildings, but the requirement to have
a
permit for signage, it's already in place, we're not adding
permit for signage. It's already in place, we're not adding
any more requirements. This is already in place.
Thank you, commissioner.
Thank you. Commissioner Waggles back and then Alderman,
Harris. Thanks.
Harris. Thanks chairman uh Commissioners, thank you for the
explanation today.
the explanation today. Uh, I know that this uh, ordinance
already existed. I think with a new amendments, we want to
make sure that we do.
make sure that we do aggressive education of our
businesses, especially new ones.
businesses, especially new ones and give our businesses, an
opportunity to come in.
an opportunity to come in and compliance. If they have to
on certain things, you know, and of course, uh, we want to
be aggressive on those business.
be aggressive on those businesses that are, uh, shirking,
the public safety aspect.
public safety aspect of what they do. So Full Speed Ahead
on those.
on those but
but, um, just for my colleagues in the past, we've
but um, just for my colleagues in the past, we've seen whole
swaths of our business uh corridors hammered with the
existing ordinance and thousands of dollars.
existing ordinance and thousands of dollars in fines giving
out on places like hot.
out on places like hot dog, stands flower shops bars and
and other bout.
and and other boutique stores or small businesses that
aren't the big.
aren't the big, uh, box types. So, um, this ordinance was
already in existence for a long time. Um, I understand the
need again for these business problem. Uh, problem
businesses to be brought into compliance, but, um, in past
practice, um, you know, we have seen many of our good
businesses. Uh, really hit with the finest when in reality.
businesses. Uh, really hit with the finest when in reality
that I didn't quite think that they needed to. Um,
that I didn't quite think that they needed to, um, but I
think, um, as long as you're being very proactive with our
Chambers,
Chambers the local Chambers not just Chicago land but
Chambers, the local Chambers not just Chicago land, but all
of our small business uh, or Hospitality Group
of our small business uh or Hospitality groups um and that
it is administered fairly and without hindering or killing
off creativity.
And, and many of our stores and the promotion of our
business.
businesses. I think um we'll see a continuation of what
businesses. I think, um, we'll see a continuation of what
you had done before but it has to be administered.
you had done before but it has to be administered fairly.
It can't be like several years ago where we went into
certain corridors and hammered the hell out.
certain corridors and hammered the hell out of them. Um,
and not did it.
and not did it not doing it? Uniformly, across the city.
Um, and that was pretty obvious based on where the fines
were
uh, popping up in certain areas, so,
were, uh, popping up in certain areas. So, um, it already
exists, I just hope that you can continue to um you know,
apply it uniformly throughout the city. Thank you chairman,
thank you.
chairman, thank you. Uh, Alum Harris, chairman Harris.
Thank you. Um, Mr. Chairman um, I
Thank you. Um Mr. Chairman um I like to hold this item. I
like to give my colleagues at the opportunity to sit and
have him briefings and work on uh getting all their
concerns taken care of. I think that this is the perfect
time to enact this ordinance when we will be out for the
month of June Mo, the rest of July and August.
month of June Mo, the rest of July, and August, to be able
to uh, walk our business corridor.
to, uh, walk our business, corridors with our Chambers. And
so holding it, over means that we will be
so holding it over means that we will be discussing a lot
of this stuff and the new year and the new season.
of this stuff and the new year and the new season with all
the other big issues we have to to take on. But I would
like to hold this item and bring it back uh for September.
Thank you Alderman. Harris makes a
September. Thank you Alderman. Harris makes a motion to um
to hold this item.
To defer.
This item.
Uh, all in favor. Signify by saying I
All oppose any opinion of the charity eyes.
All oppose any opinion of the charity eyes have it. The
item is held.
so, we going back
So we going back to the regular order of business, moving
on to document number 0202.
on to document number 02025
000. Thank you everyone. 18156.
000. Thank you, everyone 18156. A text Amendment introduced
by.
by Alders kondanna and viegas that immense Municipal Code
section.
section 17-70. The
predominance of the
Predominance of the block 606 District in the 31st.
predominance of the block 606 District in the 31st and 36th
Wards we have
Wards. We have Alders vas and kadona here to to
Wards. We have Alders vas and kadona here to, to present on
this matter. Um, Alderman. Vagus
Alderman codona or almond Vegas.
Mr. Chairman I'm going to close if there's any comments. If
not, I'd like to move to pass, okay?
not, I'd like to move to pass. Okay, I'll make a donor.
The same chair.
The same chairman.
I'm rather close. Okay. Uh, if there are no questions.
I'm rather close. Okay. Uh if there are no questions, do I
hear motion uh do pass.
hold on, Alder
Hold on Alderman, cruzada.
Go for it.
Good afternoon, chairman, uh, members of the zoning
committee.
committee, uh, last September this committee approved, the
northwest
Northwest site housing preservation ordinance a
collaborative.
collaborative effort by Alders and Community organizations
on the northwest.
on the northwest side to address the loss of natural.
occurring, affordable housing and the resulting
displacement of long-term low and moderate income renters
on the northwest side,
we hear from constituents every day who are
We hear from constituents every day who are struggling to
keep up with Rising rents a growing body.
keep up with Rising rents. A growing body of research, over
the last decade matches the lived,
the last decade matches, the lived experience of our
residents in 2023. The
residents in 2023, The Institute for housing studies at the
Paul University published.
Paul University, published its report the state of rental
housing in Chicago. This report which grouped multiple
Community areas to form, larger submarkets found that
between the period.
between the periods of 2012 and 2014 and
between the periods of 2012, and 2014 and 2017 and 2019.
The Logan Square. A
The Logan Square Avondale. Erosa neighborhoods together saw
a 15.3% decrease in the number of affordable rental units.
The largest decrease in affordable rental units of any sub.
submarket in the city and a corresponding 18.9% decrease in
the share of lower income. Renters
The northwest side housing preservation.
the northwest side housing preservation, ordinance seeks to
interrupt this trend by slowing the loss of naturally
affordable 2 and 3.
affordable 2 and 3 Flats through a search charge on
demolition, permits and minim.
demolition permits and minimum density zoning and
preventing the displacement of ten.
preventing the displacement of tenants by giving them a
right of first refusal which allows them the opportunity to
match a third-party offer. And
match a third-party offer and buy their building. If it is
up for sale.
up for sale, something a tool that is it will contribute to
local.
to local home ownership and by interrupting the
local home ownership and by interrupting the loss of
naturally affordable 2. And 3 Flats. We're making sure.
naturally affordable 2. And 3 Flats, we're making sure that
we are having sustainable housing stock.
we are having sustainable housing stock in our communities
by demolishing. We are not building. Demolishment is the
opposite of building so we can't be Pro building if we're
pro Dem.
pro demolition. This ordinance was crafted in collaboration
with the community Bellanca, Logan Square neighborhood
association.
association a 6-year-old, Community organization
representing.
representing 40 member institutions, championed this
ordinance.
ordinance, their organizers gathered over 1,000, signatures
in.
in support of the ordinance within the
Boundaries of the pilot area.
Boundaries of the pilot area Last Summer. The sponsoring
Alders held a town hall meeting to hear, uh, meeting to
hear the feedback which was attended by hundreds of
residents the over.
residents, the overwhelming majority of those in
attendance, Express their support for this.
Express their support for this ordinance. And I also know
that we have members of Palenque
that we have members of Bellanca, Logan, Square
neighborhood association in the, in the, in the audience
today.
As elected officials representing renters.
as elected officials representing renters, at, in
neighborhoods, at risk of displacement, we must use any and
every toolbox, every tool in our toolbox,
every toolbox, every tool in our toolbox to help keep our
residents in their homes. Chicago is not the first or only
City to explore.
City to explore using a tenant. Right of first refusal
ordinance to help.
ordinance to help keep renters in their homes and
neighborhoods. Washington. DC was 1 of the first passing,
its ordinance in 1984 other places like San Francisco
Prince, George's County, Maryland Baltimore and the state
of Massachusetts. Have similar laws Senate
of Massachusetts, have similar laws Senate, right of first
refusal is a critical tool to address the issues.
refusal is a critical tool to address the issues facing
renters on the northwest side and I would argue across
renters on the northwest side. And I would argue across the
city of Chicago
Additional research by IHS.
additional research by IHS in partnership with the
preservation compact found that in Chicago. Oh ownership
turnover in higher.
turnover in higher cost, markets may also be a factor in
the loss of Noah H. Noah.
Since.
since 2013 24% of properties in Chicago,
Since 2013 24% of properties in Chicago's, higher cost
markets, have changed hands at.
markets, have changed hands at a time when the price per
unit has also increased substantially.
The recent experience.
The recent experience of the tenants that formed the beld
and Sawyer tenants.
and Sawyer tenants Association in the 35th. Ward also
illustrates the needs for such policies. Tenants living in
the building at the corner of Belden Sawyer in the 35th
Ward. Received notice
Ward received notice last Christmas Eve that their building
had been sold and their leases would not be renewed, had
this sale.
this sale happened. After the tenant, right of first
refusal had gone into effect, they would have had the
opportunity to try and match the third party.
And by their building, nothing that would prevent the sale
of it.
of it, nothing that would stop the market, just give folks
who live in the community an opportunity to stay in their
neighborhood.
Since the ordinance went into effect in March, we've heard
from some property owners in our Ward, who have run into
some complic,
some complications, trying to close sales. We've been
working exped.
working expeditiously, both with the Department of Housing
and these individual owners to allow sales to close. And
with the Department of Housing policy, experts to address
any issues,
any issues on a macro level,
to this end, we've worked with
To this end, we've worked with experts to conduct a policy,
scan of similar Pollock.
scan of similar policies and other places having done this
research. We feel confident that the language of our
ordinance is is consists.
ordinance is is consistent with those and other places
where Fannie Mae and Freddy Mack are able to guarantee
mortgages and title.
mortgages and title companies.
We are continuing to meet with Endust.
We are continuing to meet with industry stakeholders and
are working to engage with Fanny fan.
are working to engage with Fannie, Fannie, and Freddie
Mack. Uh, and we also, um, are meeting with
Mack, uh, and we also, um, are meeting with the Chicago
Association of Realtors. Um, and I know that do is meeting
with Fannie Mae
We've also had our.
We've also had our first working group meeting with
community and housing organizations.
community and housing organizations working collaboratively
to develop resources, that help.
to develop resources that help, tenants take advantage of
their new rights under this ordinance and
advantage of their new rights under this ordinance and join
together to buy their buildings and Achieve housing
stability.
stability, build generational, wealth and preserve
affordability.
affordability in the long term.
Preserving affordability on the northwest.
Preserving affordability on the northwest side, requires
threading, a needle between supporting both.
threading, a needle between supporting both tenants and
property owners.
We are committed.
We are committed to working with all stakeholders to
address and resolve.
address and resolve any issues to create the best policy
that we can.
that we can for our constituents. This policy has been
proven to help preserve affordability and protect renters
and
And I urge my colleagues Alders, Cardona and vie
viegas to defer this ordinance, and to come to the table
and join us.
and join us in working to make this ordinance. A success,
thank you very much.
thank you very much cheer. Oh, and I also believe that, um,
I um,
Also.
also believe that um the the Alders
also believe that um, the the Alders, uh, submitted a
letter, to the, the chair of the committee and to the
committee. And I'd actually like to ask, um, Edwin Ortiz
Reyes from the Department of Housing, if he's able to speak
to some of the points that were brought up,
Emily.
Miss Miss Reyes.
Miss Miss Reyes, Mr. Reyes. Mr, Reyes. I'm sorry I thought
he said him,
Thank you, chairman. Okay, can you say your name for the
record? Yes. Uh my name is Edwin Ortiz. Rees. I'm a senior
policy analyst with the Department of Housing.
I was asking if you can address some of the points that
were submitted in a letter to the committee. Um,
were submitted in a letter to the committee, um, from
Alders, uh, Cardon.
Alders, uh, Cardona and, uh, viegas. Yeah. Yeah. Alderman.
Alders, uh, Cardona and uh, viegas yeah. Yeah. Alderman is
out of order. See a public comment, right?
Well, he's from the Department of Housing. He's from
Department.
Department of the house. Oh, can I bring him to the box to
the Box? Yes,
the Box? Yes. Yes, it's not. Yeah, thank you very much and,
and the, the, the, uh, issues at hand that I'd like for
there to be address.
for there to be addressed is the increase title. Increased
title costs, the Fannie Mae policy, the inability to sell
to.
to owner occupied buyers and the ability to do a 1031
exchange. Yeah. So from what I understand this is was a
automatic
Alderman willing.
Alderman willingly did this on their own, right? That's
right. So why why are you against the alderman? Taking
itself.
himself out of I'm not I I think it's just helpful context
for all of us to understand policy that's been instituted
by the city.
instituted by the city of Chicago. Um, and this is policy
that other of our colleagues would probably like to address
or implement
or Implement themselves. So this is just helpful context
for us.
for us to know what are the issues that people are are
alleging that the city of Chicago is not bringing into
compliance and
compliance. And that's why I'd like the Department of
Housing to answer some of the points.
Housing to answer some of the points that have been raised
by my colleagues for the public record. Thank you.
I'm a vagus.
Mr. Chairman, this is an ordinance that was passed and all
the aldermen that initially had signed on to it. And, uh,
voted on it.
Uh, did so willingly.
Uh, did so willingly and also willingly, we put forward an
ordinance to remove these portions, and we're asking for
this body to take that matter up. This is not a, a, uh, a
hearing where we're going.
hearing where we're going to uh, talk about the Department
of Housing.
of housing's opinion. Um, we, this is a vote that we're
that we're taking up. We opted in, we're opting out.
that we're taking up. We opted in, we're opting out and we
want to take a vote just on that. So, did you
to take a vote just on that. So did you all opted in or did
y'all? Did you get remap
Into this.
This.
This was this was done last year. We've heard some we
This was, this was done last year. We've heard some, we've,
we've seen some concerns, as, as the alderman, we're opting
out,
out and we make, we, we want our colleagues to support that
To be publicly talking about them. And for the Department
of
Housing to address. What are those issues? Yeah. So
Anyway, uh, so we we need to try. We need to respect other
people's wish.
people's wishes in their Awards. I think that we do that,
but I think but we allow for
but I think, but we allow for housing to say what they have
to say. Go ahead.
Uh, thank you chairman again for the record.
Uh, thank you, chairman again for the record. I'm a senior
policy analyst with the Department.
policy analyst with the Department of Housing. Um, we would
like to address just 2 of the points raised in, uh,
Alderman vjas and Alder.
Alderman, vjas and Alderman, cardona's letter. Uh, the
first 1 being, uh, the Fannie Mae policy, uh, Department of
Housing is actively in,
Housing is actively in conversations with Fanny mate to
understand what the impact of the.
understand what the impact of the tenant, right of first
refusal. And the Tenant opportunity to purchase is on
Friday and Fanny's ability, and desire to back, uh,
Residential Mortgages in.
Residential Mortgages in the within the district uh from
our understanding.
our understanding our ordinance, the way it is, written
does not.
does not impact, uh, Fred your Fanny's ability to create a
secondary market for these mortgages. Uh, we do know that
Fanny does have a policy guideline that makes it difficult
for them to back.
for them to back mortgages that have a certain type of
right of first refus.
right of first refusal attached to them. We believe that
our ordinance is written in a way that would not trigger,
um, this issue for them.
um, this issue for them and we are an ongoing conversations
with Fanny. Um,
To better understand how their policies impact we are.
requesting additional time so that we can continue to have
these.
these conversations and get full information between this
or before this.
or before this committee, um before a decision is made.
um, so that we can fully understand the issue and how it's
impacting property transactions in the area.
um,
so,
Ultimate vagus.
Ultimate vagus, thank you. So is it fair to say that the
Department of Housing?
Department of Housing did not meet with Fanny and Freddy
prior to the to the drafting of the ordinance?
This is not.
This is not a Department of Housing ordinance Alderman,
right? So, but you are Department of Housing, speaking on
it and obviously your support of this
it and obviously, you're support of this. We are the, you
are the department that's going to be responsible.
administering? It is it, are you not? Yes, we are the
department that is responsible for implementing. The
Department of Housing.
Department of Housing means with Freddy and Fanny to
determine to thread.
determine to thread the needle as my colleague mentioned to
find out.
to find out whether or not this ordinance would would
trigger.
The first right? First a right refusal.
The first, right? First, a right refusal you're telling me
now that you're going to go meet with them.
now that you're going to go meet with them but that should
have been done ahead of time prior to the ordinance being
introduced to make sure that the language that was being
put forward took into account Fannie May's concern.
put forward took into account Fannie May's concerns.
So the the Department of Housing.
so the, the Department of Housing and the the aldermen that
drafted this and your organization that drafted this did
not meet with Fanny and Freddy.
not meet with Fanny and Freddy is that accurate to say
Alderman, I cannot speak to
Alderman. I cannot speak to what, uh, the alderman who
introduced and pass.
introduced and passed this legislation did or did not do.
Uh, again the department of
Uh, again, the Department of Housing was not and is not,
uh, responsible for this ordinance. We are the implementing
department and we provide policy advice on the structure of
the ordinance, uh, we have had ongoing conversations the
meetings that we are having with Fanny and Freddy have been
happening for several months
been happening for several months and continue to happen.
So we can understand how
Ordinance. And the way that it's written,
Does, or does not?
does, or does not impact the ability for these uh, uh,
secondary markets to operate in the 606 District? Uh, we
have been meeting with them back since late last year.
have been meeting with them back since late last year,
continue to meet with them. But like I said, we are
confident and feel comfortable that the way that the
ordinance is written right now is confident and why are you
meeting?
If you're confident that, why are you having a meeting with
them? So,
Alderman, I can provide analysis.
Alderman. I can provide analysis but I can't make a
decision for uh organization.
decision for, uh, organization that I do not work for so
Alderman. Um,
so, I don't know if anybody's going to make
So, I don't know if anybody's going to make their decisions
based on.
You and housing disagreeing with each other. I think
people.
gonna make their decision based on the alderman not
Oneness, in their Wars, right? So Alder,
Oneness, in their Wars, right? So, Alderman rally, um,
yeah. Chairman
it sounds to me like, because
chairman it sounds to me like, because there are ongoing
conversations with
Benny Freddy.
This isn't resolved and and no matter how confident.
This isn't resolved and and no matter how confident the
department is.
the folks at administer, the mortgages certainly don't seem
to be
and so, I think,
And so I think my colleagues Point almond viegas is that?
it's all well and good that the Department of Housing is
involved and having these conversations, we would encourage
that they should have happened before.
that they should have happened beforehand. Um, and you
know, this is 1 of those laws of unintended consequences I
believe. Um and you know good for housing for trying to
clean up the mess after the fact.
But we have 2 alderman.
But we have 2 Alderman here, who are, who represent very,
very small port.
very small portion of this District.
Ask.
Asking to be.
Taken out.
Uh, and I'm sorry but you know, zoning committee here.
Uh, and I'm sorry but you know, zoning committee. Here we
typically defer to our colleagues.
typically defer to our colleagues on these types of
decisions because they know their communities best
and so, I don't think this is really a discussion about the
And so I don't think this is really a discussion about the
merits of this program.
I think.
I think there are plenty of positives that come with it.
um, but we have
Um, but we have 2 older people here, who wish to remove
themselves?
themselves from this. And I think that's the request before
us and I think it's appropriate and and that said I moved
to pass,
Okay, so this is not a city ordinance. This is a choice
ordinance, which almond
ordinance. Which Alderman chose to go in. Aldermen are
choosing to go out. So, uh, there's a motion up for dup
pass.
choosing to go out. So, uh, there's a motion up for dupus.
Uh,
if you want to continue this or you,
If you want to continue this or you, or you want to vote it
on, we can continue. Go ahead, go.
on, we can continue. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Well, I
have a statement and I would like to read the statement. If
if it might please you sir.
so,
So well, I understand and respect the arguments being made.
to support on this proposal. I want to take a moment.
to support on this proposal. I want to take a moment to
share why I have chosen.
Not.
Not to include the small portion of tenant opportunity to
purchase.
purchase the 606 district and the 31st Ward. The area will
be, that will be affected.
will be these 2 small sections that you see in the
Will be these 2 small sections that you see in the map.
after you validating the needs of our
After you validating the needs of our residents and
long-term applicate applicants. We've concluded that this
ordinance would not serve our communities in the way that's
intended to be.
intended to be, or at least not at this time.
1 of our primary concerns is whether our communities are
truly prepared for home ownership under the condition.
truly prepared for home ownership under the conditions set
by the Ordnance. Currently there is no
by the Ordnance currently, there is no requirement in the
ordinance for tenant to focus home.
ordinance for tenant to focus home, buyer education.
the success of the initiatives is heavily depends on the
Reps and the prospective buyers particularly tenants, who
may not have the experience of navigating, the home buying
price Pro process.
Buy buyers will be evaluated by.
Buy buyers will be evaluated by lenders based on several key
factors. Credit history, debt to income ratio appraised,
value of the home.
And how much money they have. S have saved for down,
payment and Reserve.
and Reserve that Capital must be verified and most l.
and Reserve that Capital must be verified. And most lenders
require the funds to be accounted for at least 3 months.
require the funds to be accounted for at least 3 months
lenders, will also look at the
lenders will also look at the buyer's employment history.
Requiring continuous.
requiring continuous employment for the, for a set period.
requiring continuous employment for the, for a set period,
improving credit and savings down payment.
improving credit and savings down payment, takes time.
Something that the Ordnance doesn't account for
We believe that it would be beneficial.
We believe that it would be beneficial to add requirements
for financial home. Buyer educ.
for financial home, buyer education as part of the program.
This would help.
This would help reduce the closing delays and better
position.
position the tenants for long-term success.
As it was mentioned earlier during public comment.
as it was mentioned earlier during public comment that the
housing stock and the proposed ordinance areas are already
largely owner occupied,
These are not corporate landlords, there are long-time.
These are not corporate landlords. There are long-time
residents and homeowners who have invested in their
communities for Generations, this ordinance, well is well
intended.
Puts it under an undue.
Puts it under an undue burden on those families.
What is also concerning is the lack of meaningful
coordination.
coordination with key stakeholder key stakeholders.
Especially the law department and the local.
Especially the law department and the local real estate
professionals.
Who could have?
Who could have helped shape a more balanced and effective?
Who could have helped shape a more balanced and effective
ordinance.
These are people with first.
These are people with first-hand experience and guiding
trans transactions and understanding the legal implications
and navigating the practical.
and navigating the Practical realities of home ownership.
their absence in this,
their absence in this drafting process is Misty opportunity
to make the policy stronger clearer and more successful.
successful in the long run.
It is also worth.
It is also worth noting that
Pointing out that well.
Pointing out that well, some non for-profit organizations
have been vocal.
have been vocal in their opposition to our concerns.
have been vocal in their opposition to our concerns, their
energy spent on organizing firing.
energy spent on organizing flying protesting and picketing
the communities would have been more effectively used to
support the very tenants, they claim to protect
Imagine.
if that same time and effort, they had been invested in
investing in hosting work,
investing in hosting workshops or home buyer, education
classes,
classes resources that could genuinely prepare renters to
become successful homeowners
if we're serious about this long-term affordability,
If we're serious about this long-term affordability and
stability, we need more than advocacy.
stability, we need more than advocacy, we need action that
empowers, our communities with
empowers our communities, with the knowledge and the tools
to thrive
So again.
Well, I understand
well, I understand the desire to expand his access to
affordable, housing and increase home ownership. I feel
strongly that the communities. We represent are not
currently positioned to benefit from this ordinance until
more education and financial support.
Could be built in.
Could be built in for both homeowners and tenants.
And I cannot in good conscience. Support this in.
And I cannot in good conscience, support this inclusion or
the portion of the tenant opportunity. Purchase the 606
District. Thank you chairman.
District. Thank you, chairman. Okay. So there's a motion on
the table.
the table, uh, Alder requested to attend the meeting by
remote means under the provisions of rule 59, um,
uh,
so move alderman.
So move Alderman, so move somebody uh Cado move.
So move Alderman. So move somebody uh Cado move to pass all
in favor signify by saying, I all op
all in favor. Signify by saying, I all oppose the eyes have
it. There's a motion on the floor in
it. There's a motion on the floor, any seconds.
Second.
Second, the motion.
so,
I mean.
I mean, we can keep
Go ahead. So look, let me say this.
Go ahead. So look let me say this and I know I would say
just say this
And that's my last time here.
We?
We got to respect each other. I understand we got
We got to respect each other. I understand. We got our, we
got our values and everything.
got our values and everything but
somet.
Sometimes you you start something, it won't end.
Sometimes you you start something. It won't end. That's
what I'm just, I'm just a warning to you. Okay, go ahead.
Thank you chairman. I agree that that is why I'm having
this conversation. I agree with the, the concerns on my
colleagues brought up. We don't want to make things harder.
We want to make things easier and
We want to make things easier, and that is why I think it
was really important for us to have a public conversation
about what it is. That isn't
about what it is that isn't working or what is working,
right? So that's why I chose to bring up some comments
about how we're seeing it. Work, our willingness to work
together. Um, and
together, um, and to also create an opportunity for my
colleagues to say,
colleagues to say on the record, what, what are the issues
so that we can work on them together?
So that we can work on them together when my colleagues
brought up their their ordinance.
brought up their their ordinance, their amendment. I went
up to them and I said, hey, let's work together on this.
Let's figure it out.
Let's figure it out in good faith. And that's, that's still
where I stand today. So I respect the decision of my
colleagues and I still call on.
colleagues and I still call on them for us to work together
because I think that we are leading the way.
because I think that we are leading the way on this issue
in our community. And I think it's
this issue in our community. And I think it's incumbent
that all of our colleagues who sit on this committee.
Also, learn about the nuances of what is working and what is
not working. So that we have a better policy in the
outcome. So again, I respect my colleagues. I respect this
conversation.
conversation and I want us to move forward, collectively.
Thank you. And I move a motion to thank you. So have a vote
already.
already all in favor. Signify, there's a motion on the
floor to pass this.
to pass. This all in favor signify by saying, I
Oppose and opinion of the chair. Is the eyes have it? Thank
you.
Oppose and opinion of the chair. Is the eyes have it? Thank
you.
So now next we have document number 020250.
So now next we have document number 02025 000181 189 a
So now next we have document number 02025 000181 189. A
text Amendment introduced by Alders Conway.
text Amendment introduced by Alders Conway that immense,
Municipal Code, chapter 17.
Municipal Code chapter 17-4 and 17-8 authorizing the zoning
administrator to approve.
zoning administrator to approve exemption from minimum a
lottery.
area for Chicago, landmark building, we have
Area for Chicago landmark building. We have all those
Conway here to present on this matter. Al
Conway here to present on this matter Alderman. Conway I
have wonderful news for all of you. This really only
affects myself Alderman, Reilly and alderman.
affects myself Alderman, Reilly, and Alderman, Robinson.
Oh, don't Alderman. Uh, there
don't Alderman. Uh, there there there's a substitute here.
Well, there is. Oh, excuse me. There is there.
Well, there is. Oh, excuse me. There is. There is
substitute that we have, uh, distributed. So,
substitute that we have, uh, distributed. So can we make a
motion, uh, that alderman?
motion, uh, that Alderman? Alderman rally makes a motion,
uh, to accept the substitute, ordinance all in favor,
signify by
Signify by saying, I all oppose and the opinion of the
charity.
charity, I just have it. The substitute is before us. Thank
you, go.
you. Go ahead Alderman Conway. Sorry about that. Jumped the
gun. It's
Getting the late hours here.
I, I
Will I in in Layman?
Will I in in layman's terms or somewhat layman's terms?
This ordinance allows an exception to the minimum lot area
standards.
standards for landmark buildings in the dc16 and dx6
districts, only, and the, except
districts only. And the exception is allowed with the
affected Alderman support.
affected Alderman, support or through the type 1 or oredia
amendment process. Essentially, it treats this exception,
like a like a large sign application, or a, or a Sidewalk
Cafe.
Cafe request, which will help us, uh, move forward with
some projects, and some Landmark buildings down town. Um,
some projects, and some Landmark buildings down town. Um uh
myself and this this substitute
uh, myself. And this this substitute uh uh is a result of
of, um, conversations between myself and Al.
of, um, conversations between myself and Alderman, Reilly
and Alderman Robinson. And it's something that that we do
agree on.
agree on, thank you.
And move to pass. Unless anyone wants to say anything else,
I've been rallying.
Thank you. Uh, Mr. Chairman I I wanted to thank my
colleague. Almond Conway for working with me to address
some minor technical concerns with the
the ordinance in the substitute addresses, those and I want
to compliment him for bringing this forward. Because um, as
we all know, uh, repurposing and and reusing landmark
buildings can be especially challenging um and
buildings, can be especially challenging. Um and while
these are important structures, we want to preserve
these are important structures we want to preserve, um, we
also want to continue to promote economic
also want to continue to promote Economic Development and
certainly adaptive reuse of these buildings. And so this
ordinance will be a creative tool and assisting with some
unique circumstances that apply to Landmark building
buildings.
buildings only. And again, it's a very narrowly.
buildings only. And again it's a very narrowly crafted to
only apply to those located in D.
only apply to those located in DC 16 or dx6 districts. And
they're not many. Um, so again, I I want to thank U
they're not many. Um, so again, I, I want to thank U,
almond, Conway, and almond Robinson for, um, working with
me on this, um, to address my, my
me on this, um, to address my my concerns. And again, this
will impact only 18, total buildings in the 42nd Ward, but
each of those is very important. So again, thank you and I
do support.
do support the ordinance. So there's a motion.
The table do pass. All in favor sign.
The table do pass. All in favor. Signify by saying, I
I,
I can't wait all opposed and the opinion of the chair. Is
the eyes have it? Thank you very much Alderman. Next we
have document number
document number. We okay patch was not here. We
document number we. Okay. Patch was not here, we skipping
that. So moving on.
We did.
we did that next, we have the
We did that next, we have the adopt, The Landmark funding
agreement for a green.
agreement for a greenstone, United Methodist Church for a
preservation project.
preservation project located at
11.
11211, South St. Lawrence Avenue.
11211 South St. Lawrence Avenue. We have Daniel Gilbert of
the historic preservation division.
the historic preservation division of the Department of
Planning and Development to present on this matter. Daniel,
Uh, good afternoon.
Uh, good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the
committee Dan kber.
committee Dan kber with the Department of planning and Dan
klyber.
klyber, okay?
I, I am here with an adopt.
I, I am here with an adopted Landmark project for the
greenstone church at 11.
greenstone church at 11211 South St. Lawrence Avenue in the
9th, ward, in the far south side of the city,
9th, ward, in the far, south side of the city. The grant
award for this project is 1,255,193 in adopt the
award for this project is 1,255,193 in adopt The Landmark
funds.
As.
As you may know, the greenstone church is a contributing.
building. And what is today called the Pullman District.
which was originally designated in 1972, in 2016, the area
was further designated as Pullman National Monument.
was further designated as Pullman National Monument, a unit
of the National Park Service and as of today, it is a
National Historic Park.
for a little background, the town of Pullman has been called
the first planned industrial community in the United
States.
conceived and built in the early 1880s. The town was the
principal work of its founder. George m Pullman, who wanted
a complete Community to support his railroad car factory
business, the come
business, the kalt region offered both Rail and water
transportation facilities.
transportation facilities, necessary for the operation of
the business and the decision to build their guaranteed
Chicago's continuing.
Chicago's continuing role, as the railroad center of the
United States.
United States, the opening of the facilities also brought
many persons to the area who were seeking employment and
the town became the focal point of the Region's continued
development.
development and expansion architecturally. The town was
development and expansion architecturally, the town was the
work of stolen, s Beaman and landscape architect.
work of stolen, s Beaman and landscape architect, Nathan F,
Barrett a key element of the original town is the
greenstone church.
Although, although the church was dedicated in 18,
Although, although the church was dedicated in 1882, it was
open only on special occasions.
open only on special occasions until 1885 when it was
rented by the Presbyterians.
rented by the Presbyterians since 1907. It has been the
home to the green.
home to the greenstone United Methodist Church.
The name of the greenstone church is.
The name of the greenstone church is derived from the green
color of its New England, sir.
color of its New England Serpentine, Stone facade, the
massiveness of the masonry coupled with the large Spire in
Arches. Suggest
Arches, suggests the influences of the Gothic Revival and
Roman.
Romanesque Styles. However, although they possess an
attractive green color, the serpentine walls of the church,
attractive green color, the serpentine walls of the church
currently exhibit areas of extensive deter.
Ation resulting from over 140 years of Expos.
Ation resulting from over 140 years of exposure to the
elements.
previous attempts to repair the
Previous attempts to repair the church have been mostly
unsuccessful and have left.
unsuccessful and have left the exterior, masonry
specifically the main tower.
specifically the main tower crumbling and structurally
compromised.
The facades of the bell tower are currently netted to
prevent.
prevent falling Stone. And the grounds are fenced off to
reduce the risk of injury to the public.
In accordance with the permit Review Committee.
In accordance with the permit review, committee's review
and approval of this scope of work at its June 2022.
meeting the applicant will be replacing the Dieter
Serpentine as part of the adopted Landmark project. Other
green colored stones were considered as a replacement.
green colored stones were considered as a replacement
material based on research and experience.
material based on research and experience these alternate
buildings have a significantly.
buildings have a significantly different appearance and
physical properties. Therefore, the applicant will be using
cast stone as a sub.
cast stone as a substitute material.
a sample of the
A sample of the cast stone is shown here side by side with
a historic Serpentine unit. The intent is
a historic Serpentine. Unit the intent is to replicate the
original facade.
uh, in front of you now are
uh in front of you now are the drawings showing the work,
which I just summarized. Um, in addition to replacing the
deteriorated,
deteriorated Serpentine Stone on the bell tower. The
applicant is also proposing the following repairs to other
features on the bell tower, which include isolated repairs,
cleaning painting of the galvanized sheet metal corners.
And
and repair and application of new perimeter sealant. At the
wood,
wood frame. Louvers.
before you now is the budget exhibit which describes the
scope of work that I just want over again summarizing in
detail, the 1 million.
detail. The 1,251 193.
detail, the 1,251 1933 adopt, The Landmark fund Grant
Similar to all.
Similar to all of the dpd's, adopt The Landmark projects,
the project.
the project will be subject to certain adopt, The Landmark
conditions as well. Including that the applicant shall
notify the commission staff of undocumented de detrimental.
conditions found during the work, the applicant,
conditions found during the work. The applicant shall
engage a third-party inspecting. Architect, the applicant
shall enter into an escrow agreement to assure that the
landmark project is completed and paid for, in a timely
manner and final payment of adopt. The Landmark funds is
subject to certification by the commission.
subject to certification by the commissioner of the
department that the project was completed.
department that the project was completed in accordance
with the requirements of the adopted, Landmark funds, the
project scope of work and budget, the agreement and land
guidelines.
In concl.
In conclusion staff supports the proposed ordinance,
authorizing an agreement.
authorizing an agreement for adopt a landmark funds with
the greenstone church for the work that I just described.
Um, in addition other support,
Um, in addition, other supporters include the Methodist
Church Northern uh, conference
Church, Northern uh conference of Illinois the uh local
church itself greenstone Church, Pastor Luther Mason is
here uh
here, uh, superintendent of the Pullman, uh, National Park
landmarks Illinois preservation, Chicago, as well as DP.
Landmarks Illinois preservation, Chicago as well as dpd.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Klyber, um, obviously Alderman loss and vice
chair and the chair today.
chair and the chair today, uh, now uh, almond bill.
chair and the chair today. Uh now uh almond Bill. Thank
you, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, um, this is
a historic.
Church.
Church in the only National Park.
Church in the only National Park in the city of Chicago.
and we,
and we have been actively, uh, trying to
and we have been actively uh, trying to make sure that this
Church.
church stays as a beacon of the
Church stays as a beacon of the corner of 112th Street.
Um, this million dollars is only the beginning.
Um, this million dollars is only the beginning of what this
structure needs because it is in a historic district. Uh,
we have a couple of hundred thousand tourists every year
that come through the community, and a lot of them cannot
even walk through the church.
even walk through the church because of the internal
conditions of the sanctuary. Uh, so this million dollars
um, will help basically.
stabilize the exterior of the
church. Uh,
church, uh, but 1 of the larger questions that I do have is
uh, the community just had a
is, uh, the community just had a GoFundMe, uh, a couple of
months ago just to get the gas back on.
uh, and so, you know, I do question, you know,
Uh and so, you know, I do question, you know, the long-term
stability.
long-term stability, um, of of the, the structure. Um,
long-term stability, um, of of the, the structure, um, even
with this million-dollar investment, uh, you know, how are
we going to continue to maintain the lights?
we going to continue to maintain the lights and the gas,
um, on a day-to-day basis? And not only that, but how are
we going to?
we going to rehab the internal? Um,
we going to rehab the internal um, you know, structure of
the church? Because it's, you know, it's a the the interior
is a large.
is a large code violation, period.
And so, I mean, I would like to ask Consul what is the
because I posed the question to the hierarchies of the
Methodist Church.
And they do not have.
And they do not have a current plan in place.
On how?
on how we're going to rehab the interior of the the
structure to make sure that it is
safe.
Safe for people to uh, go in and worship because right now.
it's not safe. So is there I would like to hear from
console what the long-term plan is
console. What the long-term plan is for the internal
structure
So uh, Mr. Clabber could you speak to that? I know they.
they did mention the pastor is here. I that may be you
standing. Um, go ahead and approach the mic please, but uh,
Mr. Clever.
All I can add to that Alderman. Is that adopt the landmark?
All I can add to that Alderman. Is that adopt The Landmark
funds are um, eligible to be used? Um, on interior work.
This particular scope of work does not include interior
work, but the applicant would be free to
but the applicant would be free to apply for adopt The
Landmark funds in the future for inter.
Landmark funds in the future for interior work. That is
something that's authorized in the code.
Is is there a a maybe?
Is, is there a a maybe past we can answer. Is there a price
tag for the full?
tag for the full amount of work? Or is that been
determined?
or interior and exterior? Yes. Oh yes.
or interior and exterior? Yes. Oh yes, there has been for a
couple years. Um can I address the interior?
couple years. Um can I address the interior is that I don't
I'm not sure exactly.
where,
That information.
That information came from. Uh, but we have since yes.
That information came from uh but we have since yes. Let's
start with the GoFundMe, the neighborhood.
start with the GoFundMe. The neighborhood has helped us.
uh, which was needed at that time we could go deeper on
what was going on. Uh, if anybody wants that explanation,
but the biggest thing is,
But the biggest thing is, is the interior is being worked
on.
right now.
We have.
We have been in partnership with.
we have been in partnership with 2, Workforce Development,
programs, that have been working on the inside.
We have been.
We have been having worships.
In the church.
In the church as well.
So,
I would hope brother almond.
I would hope brother almond that.
We could answer your question.
We could answer your question 1. Yes, there's been a long
time plan. We have support from the United Methodist
Church. There's been a later letter that would sit in uh,
Church. There's been a later letter that would sit in uh as
well.
uh, we also have
Uh, we also have applied for other grants through the
national.
National Fund, which
Hopefully.
hopefully, once this gets out of this debacle,
Hopefully, once this gets out of this debacle, we'll be
getting those funds as well.
Uh, is there a time table? Well, it was a 5-year time table
when this started.
when this started several years ago,
um, but
In.
In the words.
Of.
Of Moses.
Just let the money go.
And let us get.
And let us get this done.
So, we can get this.
So, we can get this Bell Tower, which is the worst part.
Taken care of.
Let It Go.
Let it go and let us.
Do what we've been doing. And I don't know if we all if if
if if anybody needs to have a conversation,
if if anybody needs to have a conversation about it or you
want to come see it, let's
want to come see it. Let's do it. I think that's a great
update. Thank you Pastor.
update. Thank you. Pastor Al
Hi pastor.
hi Pastor before you go, before you go, I I have a uh
Hi Pastor before you go, before you go I I have a uh, I
also have historic churches in my community.
also have historic churches in my community, uh, Pilgrim
Baptist and Ebenezer. Uh, they're doing work and have been,
um,
some uh, Second Presbyterian have received.
Some uh Second Presbyterian have received support from this
program as well. Just curious, who is your contractor for
this work Bergland?
this work? Bergland construction? Who is 1 of the? What is
that Bergland?
that? Bergland Bergman, Bergman Bergland.
that? Bergland Bergman, Bergman Bergman. We're just 1 of
the top. Uh,
Restor.
restoration contractors in the country, who is on the
Restoration contractors in the country, who is on the south
side of Chicago. Okay, thank you so much. You're welcome.
Thank you all. Anything else.
Um, so again.
um, so again, I um, uh, you know, I support
um, so again I um, uh, you know, I support, um, you know,
this grant going towards the structure. Um, but again, I I
really would just like to know. Um, and hopefully, uh,
pastor
Pastor, um, can you know provide my office?
Pastor um, can you know provide my office with a um,
concrete plan of the interior?
concrete plan of the Interior? Um, and you know, I mean, I
would prefer to have
Um, certified people.
Um, certified people doing the work other than people that
are part of a workshop.
are part of a workshop, um, training program. Um, you know,
this is too important. Um, and I think we need to make sure
that we have qualified people, uh, contractors union
contractors.
contractors, um, doing this work to make sure that it's
done and done.
done and done, right? And so I, I support the
done and done, right? And so I I support the the ordinance,
I support the church,
I support the church and also support making sure that this
church can
sure that this church can, uh, Thrive and survive and
that's my main goal. And so with that, I move to pass on
this.
this order. Thank you, Alderman. Bill moves to pass all in
favor, say,
favor. Say I any opposed say name picture of the Ice House.
it or is passed.
Thank you. Uh, we're going to go to uh the correction the
next text Amendment, right?
All right.
All right, it's document number. Oh 20250000001.
All right it's document number oh 202500000018063 a text
Amendment introduced by the department of planning.
Amendment introduced by the department of planning and
development for a journal of Correction of zoning.
Reclassification
reclassification map, number 5, G at 2225 North Dayton we
have Patrick Murphy here to present
Briefly.
Hi.
Hi, Patrick Murphy with the Department of planning, uh,
briefly. There was just a, a text error in the private
application from before it just misidentified a zoning
District as RT. 4.5 instead of the
District as RT, 4.5 instead of the correct rm4.5 this just
corrects that error. Uh it doesn't change any of the
substance of the ordinance and it was it was approved by
Council when it was heard.
Right. Thank you Patrick. Any uh, questions by committee
members seeing none, all the women down moves, do pass All
In
favor. Say, I, I any post say name p the
favor. Say I I any post say name p, the eyes have it orders
is pass.
All right.
we're going to the maps, but we're
We're going to the maps, but we're going to start a little
bit out of order on page, 3 all the women lie.
bit out of order on page, 3, all the women, Lee is here and
um toward the bottom of page.
um toward the bottom of page 3 is document number a 9006
and the 11th ward ordinance referred
and the 11th ward ordinance, referred 61825, common address
is 16.
is 1653 West 35th, Street change requests.
is 1653 West 35th Street, change request is an RS3
residential, single unit detached house district.
residential, single unit detached house district to b32
community.
community shopping district. All the woman Lane,
Thank you.
Thank you chair. Uh, this is uh, part of an
Thank you chair. Uh this is uh part of an effort that we uh
in the 12th ward in the 11th ward took on together.
uh in the 12th ward in the 11th. Ward took on together to
rezone both sides of 35th Street. This was an error on our
part from the 11th, ward office. Um, we had multiple
Community meetings about um, upzoning this district. And,
uh,
the property owner did request to be included, we
The property owner did request to be included. We gave uh,
we gave everybody the option to weigh in and it was
inadvertently left out uh by member of my staff. So uh,
this is to correct that to include them in the shopping
district.
Great. Thank you to all the women and any questions by
committee members, seeing none, all in Ken moves due pass.
all in favor. Say, I, I any opposed say name, please share
the eyes, have it item is passed. Thank you.
the eyes, have it item is passed, thank you. Um, next up,
We have.
we have large signs over 100 square feet in area, 24 feet
above grade. We hear them all together. I'll read the word
followed, by the address.
followed by the address and take a motion at the end 2
signs in the 11th w.
signs in the 11th ward located at 2424 South holstead
Street in the 25th. Ward 1 sign located at 2404, South
Walcott Avenue in the 27th Ward 1 sign located at 11.
Walcott Avenue in the 27th, Ward 1, sign located at 1132,
West Blackhawk in the 29th, Ward.
West Blackhawk in the 29th. Ward, 1625 North Harlem, in the
35th, Ward.
35th. Ward 2200, North Campbell 2 signs in the 36th Ward.
located at 6603 West diversity in the 41st. Ward at 8700
West Bidar Avenue
3 signs in the 4.
3 signs in the 42nd Ward located at 539 North Dearborn
Avenue.
Avenue 3 signs in the 45th Ward located at 5949.
Avenue 3 signs in the 45th Ward located at 5949 West
Higgins, 1, sign in the 49th Ward located.
Higgins, 1. Sign in the 49th Ward located at 7524 North
Paulina.
Paulina and lastly, through signs in the 49th Ward located
at 7,
at 75507 North Clark Street,
located, at 75507, North Clark Street, there's no questions
by committee members, all the woman Ramirez.
by committee members, all the woman Ramirez moves to pass
all in favor. Say I any opposed,
all in favor. Say, I any opposed say, nay, can you share
the eyes have it? And the orders are passed.
All right.
all right, we're
All right, we're on the map. Amendments top of page 3.
Document number a 903, I'm sorry. Document number A-
Document number a 903. I'm sorry, document number A- 90005
and the Third, Ward ordinance referred 6.
and the Third. Ward ordinance, referred 61825, common
address is 2201, South State Street change, request, dx5
downtown mixed
downtown, mixed use District to dr5 downtown residential
district. We have all the women pat d,
Thank you, Mr. Chairman as my support from
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, as my support from uh, the members
of the committee, uh the purpose of the
of the committee, uh the purpose of this uh, Sony changes
to allow for
allow for some Community planning to take place at
changes to allow for some Community planning, to take place
at 2201 South State, uh, regarding the future use. Uh,
Jason to a transit station. Thank you.
a transit station. Thank you, great. Thank you. Any
questions by committee members?
Any questions by committee members, uh, seeing none. All
the women Harris, moves, do pass all in favor say,
the women Harris, moves, do pass all in favor. Say, I, I, I
any opposed say nay future the eyes, have it. Item is
passed.
Um, I will read the next 3 items.
Um, I will read the next 3, items in the eighth word
together. Um, I'm going to take motions.
together. Um, I'm going to take motions at the end.
Document number a dash 89.
Document number a dash 8990 with the eighth Ward ordinance
referred 521.
52125, common address, 7901 South, Jeffery Boulevard,
Boulevard, and 2001 through 255 East, 79th Street,
Boulevard and 2001 through 255 East, 79th Street, change
request, b32 Community shopping district to rs1 residential
single unit detached house district. Document number 88989
in the eighth. Ward ordinance referred 52125 common
address.
address is 1701 through 11, East, 79th Street,
address is 1701 through 11, East 79th Street, change
request. B32 Community shopping district to rs1 resident.
request. B32 Community shopping district to rs1 residential
single unit detached house district,
Bag.
bag number a 8988 in the eighth, Ward or
Bag number a 8988 in the eighth. Ward ordinance referred
52125, common address.
52125. Common address is 1700 through 1728 East.
52125. Common address is 1700 through 1728 East 79th,
Street, change request, b32 Community shopping.
Street, change request, b32 Community shopping district to
rs1 residential single unit.
rs1 residential, single unit, detached house district. Uh,
we have all the women, Michelle Harris.
we have all the women, Michelle Harris, thank you. Um,
let's start off with 7901.
start off with 7901. South Jeffery is a former site of a
Walgreens.
wal greens. Um, the community has asked that we Downs on it
to give us an opportunity to create the community process
for people to come in and speak with them. This will not
stop up. Um, us up, zoning it later when we get the proper
develop.
development, but it's to allow that the other 2 uh 1701
East.
East Set, uh East the 1701 Dash 1111
East Set, uh, East the 1701 Dash 1111 East 79th. Street are
vacant Parcels owned
vacant, Parcels owned by the land bank. We are downsizing
those again.
those again to create a community process, where someone
can come in.
can come in and talk to the community to get
guarantee.
Guaranteed that they, the community will have great input.
on this followed by the 1700 to 28 uh East 79th, Street
same thing.
Same thing to allow the community to have a a real voice in
these developments. Uh does not.
these developments uh does not say that we will not uh
upzone them or get them redeveloped. So I asked for
approval from the committee. Great. Thank you all the
woman. Any questions by Committee Member
woman. Any questions by committee members, uh, seeing none
Alderman, bill bill,
Alderman, Bill Bill moves due pass on document number 88,
990 a 8989.
990, a 8989, and a 8988. All in favor say I
990 a 8989, and a 8988. All in favor say I I any opposed
say, Nay please share the eyes have it, it
Nay, please share the eyes have it item is passed. Thank
you. All the women.
Uh, all the Shea here or anyone from the 19th Ward.
We will come back to that.
All the Mosley. Are you still with us?
Still here. All right. You're up.
Still here. All right, you're up. Uh, middle of page. 4 is
document number 88971 and the
document number 8. 8971 and the 21st Ward ordinance
referred 4625. Common address is 1143 West 95th.
referred 4625. Common address is 1143 West 95th Street,
change requests to b31 community.
change requests to b31 community shopping district to rs1
residential, single unit detach.
residential single unit detached house district Alderman
Mosley
Thank you so much, chair asking my colleagues for their
favor.
favorable consideration here. Uh, if you are familiar with
this,
this location, you will know that this is a city.
this location, you will know that this is a city lot, uh,
in between uh res.
in between, uh, Residential Properties and a utility
property. Um, and so, uh, moving it from a B3, which is
not, uh, near uh or maybe across the street,
not, uh, near uh, or maybe across the street, but this
entire side of 95th Street, uh, is predominantly
residential and so working.
residential. And so working to bring it into Conformity
with the existing structures that are present again.
with the existing structures that are present again asking
for favorable consideration. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Alderman. Any questions by committee members?
Seeing none Alderman Knutson moves due pass all in favor.
Say, I, I any opposed say. Nay for the chair, the eyes have
it.
have it item is passed.
And we have all.
And we have all been Cardona.
No.
no, all the women Silverstein
I,
I know she was nearby.
I think.
All right.
I'm gonna hold those other all the manics until
I'm gonna hold those other all the manx, until the
alderman, join us. So we're going to go to the private
applications.
applications which start on page 5.
Um,
in the 11th. Ward actually all
In the 11th. Ward actually Allen 20 move down. So we can
have them.
have them sit. All right. Middle of the page 5. Document
number 227,
number 22782 in the 11th. Ward ordinance referred 67.
number 22782 in the 11th. Ward ordinance referred 6725.
Common address is 3462 through 64. South
Common address is 3462 through 64, South Latana and 912.
West 35th Street, change request.
West 35th Street. Change request, RS3 residential, single
unit, detached house.
unit, detached house district, and rt4 residential 2, flat
townhouse,
townhouse and multi-unit, districts to a b11 neighbor.
townhouse and multi-unit, districts to a b11 neighborhood,
shopping district,
Uh, thank you Council.
Uh, thank you counselor. Patrick Thompson.
Thank you. Uh, chairman appreciate.
Um,
as mentioned, my name is Patrick Thompson and the attorney.
for the applicant PJ Irma property.
for the applicant. PJ Irma property, LLC. I'm joined uh
with me uh
me uh today with Justin balsera who's an officer and
represent.
representative of the applicant.
The applicant.
the applicant is the contract buyer for, for the
previously, mentioned property, the current
Previously mentioned property. The current uh, zoning is
RS3 residential
uh,
Uh, and our T4 residential.
The applicant seeks to rezone the property to a B1.
neighborhood shopping district.
The property.
The property will be completely renovated the ground floor.
Space in all 3. Buildings will be utilized for General.
retail business.
There'll be a res.
there'll be a resident residential units on the second
floor in the
floor, in the buildings on lithuanica.
The applicant will.
The applicant will lease the space to Big Kahuna Sports and
uniform.
Um, their Big Kahuna is
Um their Big Kahuna is an existing neighborhood business
and they're expanding their oper.
and they're expanding their operations.
alderwoman lie, uh, held the
Alderwoman lie, uh, held the community meeting on June 10th
2025, and based on that.
2025 and based on that meeting in the discussions with
Community residents
with Community residents Alderman, Lee fully supports the
EXP
expanse of this local business from the 11th ward.
A respectfully request that committee recommend.
A respectfully request. That committee recommend passage of
this amendment and thank you. We're here, answering.
this amendment and thank you. We're here, answering any
questions. Thank you Alderman, Thompson, uh,
questions. Thank you, Alderman, Thompson. Uh, any questions
by committee members,
um, I know, Big Kahuna does a lot of business with this
body, so
body. So thank thank you for that. Uh, seeing
body so thank, thank you for that uh seeing none. Uh Alvin
cruzen was due pass, all in favor. Say I I any opposed say
nay to ensure the eyes have it item is passed.
nay to ensure the eyes. Have it item is passed. Thank you
both, thank you. Um we're going to go back to
The.
the items in the 50th Ward.
Bottom of page 4 is document number. A
9000003.
9000003 and the 50th Ward ordinance referred 52125.
9000003 and the 50th Ward ordinance, referred 52125. Common
address is 3135 West Devon.
address is 3135 West Devon Avenue, change request b32
Community shopping district.
Community shopping district to RM 5.5 residential.
multi-unit, District. We have all the woman, Deborah
Silverstein
Thank you. Chairman. Um, yes.
Thank you. Chairman. Um yes. Um we are requesting this
zoning change for a synagogue. Um they would like to
change for a synagogue. Um they would like to um expand the
synagogue due to the growing.
synagogue due to the growing Community there um with an
additional floor for religious assembly space and so in
order to do that um we needed to change
so in order to do that um we needed to change the zoning to
an RM 5.5.
And would greatly appreciate your consideration.
Great, any questions by committee members?
Uh, seeing none Alderman, Conway moves due pass all in
favor. Say,
favor. Say I, I post say name be the chair of the eyes.
Have it, it.
Have it item is passed. Thank you all the woman.
All right, we still don't have OSHA or Cardona.
We?
We will come back.
All right.
Bottom of page 5.
uh,
okay.
Okay, document number 2279021 on the 9th word.
Okay, document number 2279021 on the 9th word ordinance,
referred 6725.
referred 6725 common addresses, uh, 10330 South Springfield
Avenue change requests, an rs2 residential single
single unit detached house district to rs2 residential
single unit detached house district. We have
single unit detached house district. We've again Attorney,
Patrick Thompson
Thank you. Uh, Mr. Chairman
um, yeah.
Um, yeah, again I'm here. Representing the applicant who
Um yeah again I'm here. Representing the applicant who
purchased the subject property in January.
purchased the subject property in January 2024
He and his wife are.
he and his wife are uh planning to build their dream home
here at 10330 South Springfield in the 19th Ward.
here at 10330 South Springfield in the 19th. Ward as
mentioned, the current zoning is our
mentioned, the current zoning is, are are
2 residential.
Pursuant to section 1713 0300.
More specifically 17130.
more specifically 17130302 the applicant seeks, a type 1 Z
zoning. Change to Res the property to rs2.
zoning. Change to Res the property to rs2 residential
district. The zoning change will allow for the variation of
side, setbacks to the property.
The subject property is currently a vacant lot.
The applicant, proposes, the bill, the 2 story.
approximately 3,000 square foot home with an attached
garage.
The subject property is a unique.
The subject property is a unique property because it's 4
42.
73 feet wide and 300 feet deep.
73 feet wide and 300 feet. Deep Sub sub subject property of
butts the adjacent property.
butts, the adjacent property to the west and therefore
there's no Ally that.
there's no Ally that Services. The property, the reduction.
there's no Ally that Services. The property the reduction
inside setbacks will allow for the attached garage.
Which is necessary to serve this property.
Um,
we have been in, uh, we we've talked with
we have been in uh we we've talked with all the who
supports this, um,
supports this um, and we respectfully request that the
committee.
Uh, moves do pass.
Do have a letter of support from.
Do have a letter of support from all the men, OSHA any
questions by committee members?
questions by committee members, uh, seeing none. All the
men Casada moves to pass all in favor. Say I any opposed
say, nay, we can share the eyes have it item?
say, nay, we can share the eyes have it item is passed.
Thank you, thank you.
All Right. Moving On Top of Page 6. Document number
All Right, Moving On Top of Page 6 document number 2279121
and the 17th Ward.
and the 17th Ward ordinance referred 61725
and the 17th Ward ordinance. Referred 61725 common address
is 7756 South Borgen Street.
change requests, an RS3 residential, single unit,
Change request, an RS3 residential, single unit detached
house, district 2, b.
house. District 2 B13 neighborhood shopping district. Um,
for this, we have attorney Agnes plea.
We'll just have.
We'll just have attorneys that, uh, to the the side,
please.
Uh, good afternoon.
Uh, good afternoon, Mr. Chairman members of the committee
my name is Agnes, plea.
my name is Agnes plea and I am very proud to repent.
represent the applicant, uh, Primo, center from others.
represent the applicant, uh, Primo, center from others, in
children, in this proposed rezoning and just a procedural
matter, we did have a substitute type 1 plans and narrative
that we submitted to Department of planning and we are
asking to proceed.
asking to proceed on those substitute type 1. Plans in
narrative, please.
narrative please, yes, all the women Ramirez moves to
accept the substitute Nar.
accept the substitute narrative and plans, all in favor.
Say I I. All right, any opposed to
say I I. All right, any opposed to saying anything to the
chair of the eyes have it? Substitute narrative and plans
are accepted. Thank you sir. Um, subject property improve
are accepted. Thank you sir. Um subject property improved
with this existing historic building built.
with this existing historic building. You built more than
100 years ago. Uh, it has
Been vacant and actually in demolition court for many years
now.
Now, the applicant believes that the building is worth
saving uh, both for its cultural value and its
saving, uh, both for its cultural value and its unique
architectural features. They are actually in the process of
applying to put this building and the national register of
historic places. So we're hoping to do some good stuff.
here. But more importantly, the applicant is proposing to
adaptively reuse this building to establish.
adaptively reuse this building to establish a transitional
residence for 44.
residence for 44 families with up to 3 children mothers
with children.
with children maximum of 176 residents.
with children maximum of 176 residents at that, uh, new
facility, uh, Primo.
facility uh Primo Center, a wonderful Organization for
over. 45 years. They've been helping um families.
over, 45 years, they've been helping um, families in needs
with Supportive Housing, not just Supportive Housing.
with Supportive Housing, not just Supportive Housing, but
they also provide trauma-informed care.
they also provide trauma-informed, care. They provide uh,
early childhood development services.
early childhood development services, uh, and very
comprehensive Medical.
comprehensive Medical Health Care. They have a proven track
track, uh, record of, of Doing Great Things. Uh,
An average each year, they helped over 1,000 people.
an average each year, they helped over 1,000 people, uh,
with Supportive Housing. This zoning
with Supportive Housing, this zoning changes needed. So
this, uh, preservation project could
this uh, preservation project could take advantage of um,
TSL location.
TSL location and allow for elimination of any parking.
TSL location and allow for elimination of any parking
requirements. This building has never had any park.
requirements. This building has never had any parking. It
was a church with 600 occupants in the past.
was a church with 600 occupants in the past, there are some
non-conforming conditions at the property, which will
remain. So we also,
remain. So we also asked for optional relief, uh, for
Administrative adjustment to eliminate that parking
requirement. And to
requirement and to allow for reduction of all the bulk
requirements. We have worked with Alan Moore and his staff.
We had a very successful community meeting very well at
attended uh, almond Moore expressed his support. I
attended uh almond Moore expressed his support. I I think
he's not here any longer today but
he's not here any longer today, but we do have uh, his
letter on file and we ask for favorable recommendation as
well.
Thank you so so much. Miss plea, we do have the
correspondence from all.
correspondence from Alderman Moore, any questions by
committee members
Uh, just a quick 1 for me. A transitional residency. Will
you still need?
you still need special use correct. Even after this step.
this step. Yes sir. Great, thank you so much. Uh seeing no
other questions.
questions. All in Conway moves, do pass all in favor. Say,
I, I
I I, I any opposed say, nay, the chair. I have it item is
passed. Thank you so much and committee members. Um, we'll
go to the bottom of page 6. The document number 2277.
go to the bottom of page 6, the document number 22775 and
the 31st Ward ordinance ref.
the 31st. Ward ordinance, referred 61725 common address.
the 31st. Ward ordinance, referred 61725 common address is
4516, West Fullerton. Avenue
4516, West, Fullerton. Avenue change requests the b11
neighborhood shopping district,
neighborhood, shopping district is C11 neighborhood
commercial District,
Counselor.
All the way over.
All the way over there. It's all about Hopkins is taking
the uh, presidential.
the uh, presidential seats.
I don't care.
Okay.
Good afternoon. It's gonna say
good afternoon, it's gonna say good morning but
Afternoon. Well, past the morning counselor. Please
proceed.
My name is Hina Castro, I am.
My name is Hina Castro. I am a partner at a Costa Edgar and
the zoning attorney.
the zoning attorney for the matter. Before you today,
located at 4516,
located at 4516 West, Fullerton. The property is down to be
1 1. It is improved with the 2 story building with mixed
use that contains 800 square feet of ground floor
commercial space, 2 dwelling units.
commercial space, 2 dwelling units on the second floor, 2,
Surf, and parking spaces.
Surf and parking spaces in the rear.
The commercial space includes a dog.
the commercial space includes a dog grooming business, and
we are seeking today to rezone the property from a b11 to a
C11 to allow.
C11 to allow a kennel and daycare to the existing dog,
grooming business.
Grooming business, there's no change to the unit count or
parking or height.
and this is a family-owned business, and
And this is a family-owned business and family-owned
building.
We do have a letter of support from the aldermen and I
would,
uh,
ask for your favorable consideration today.
Great, thank you. Miss Castro. We do have the alderman here
if you'd like to add anything Alderman cardono. Thank you.
um,
just,
just want to in in Rudy what? Uh,
just want to in in Rudy what uh, examina said. Um, this is
a small business, they're expanding.
small business, they're expanding uh to do boarding. Um
it's a great component in, um, Fullerton Avenue, especially
in
especially in Hermosa and I
in Hermosa and I asked for your consideration to support
this ordinance change. Thank you.
Thank you, alderman.
Thank you Alderman, any questions?
See.
Seeing none.
Excuse me. Um, Alvin Hopkins was
Excuse me. Um, Alvin Hopkins supposed to pass all in favor
say, I I I, we post say your name.
All right guys. Have a nice fast. Thank you. Thank you.
Forgive me. I'll try to get 1 mouths full of a snack.
all right, we're going to
All right, we're going to go back to page 4.
Items in the 31st sports. It's the type.
S there there, there.
Document number a 901.
Document number a 9014 on the 31st. Ward ordinance referred
61825.
61825, common address is 3037 through 4.
61825, common address is 3037 through 43. North Cicero,
Avenue, change request. C21
Avenue, change request, c21 motor, vehicle commercial
District to b11 Neighborhood.
commercial District to b11 Neighborhood shopping district,
Also, in 31 is diagram.
Also in 31 is diagram number, a 9015.
Uh, the 31st award ordinance, referred 618.
Uh, the 31st award ordinance, referred 61825. Common
address is 3125. North Cicero, Avenue change request C.
address is 3125. North Cicero, Avenue change request, c21
motor, vehicle related, commercial districts to be
motor, vehicle related, commercial districts to b11
Neighborhood, shopping district, Alderman card.
Neighborhood, shopping district, Alderman, Cardona,
Thank you. Um a few addresses along sister Avenue, where
downsize?
downsized in preparation for the introduction of the over.
overlay District that will be that will be presented City
Council.
council. This week. The Cisco Corridor has had
council this week. The Cisco Corridor has had
non-conforming Parcels for years particularly related, to
Auto related uses.
Auto related uses the downzoning to b11, brings the
specific addresses in line with prevailing zoning
throughout the corridor.
In fact, these are the only Parcels on Cicero that carry a
C11 or C2.
C11 or C2 designation, while all other car, lots are
currently oper.
currently operating on the non-conforming uses with B1 B2
Z.
zoning.
this update is a step forward to consistency with the
long-term planning for the corridor. It is important to
emphasize that this change.
emphasize that this change will not allow current business
owners. Um, they may continue operating as they as they
are, unless there is a lapse of license renewal or change.
of ownership or management as long as
ownership or management as long as they remain in good
standing, their businesses and operation can continue
without interruption.
so, to irrigate
Uh, 3 deals currently.
Uh, 3 deals currently zoned as c21 and the 31.
Uh, 3 deals currently zoned as c21 and the 31st. Ward, the
C2 would allows Auto Sales and thus, those dealership will
not be impacted by the proposed. Overlay zoning change
required.
required for these properties to be impacted.
And I would asking the zoning.
And I would asking the zoning the zoning change required
for for these properties.
for for these properties will not be impacted. Um, and I'm
asking for the consideration of the zoning, uh, committee
Any questions about committee members?
Um, seeing none other than I'm sorry.
Um seeing none other than I'm sorry. All the person who
passed all in favor say I
passed all in favor say, I I any opposed say nay. I just
have it item is
have it, item is passed.
Anyone back from 19th?
Anyone back from 19th word, yet.
All right.
All right, all right. We'll wait on 19. All right. Now I
am.
on the top of page 7. All right.
Document number 2278.
document number 22781221 and the 32nd Ward ordinance,
referred 61725 common address is 2743. North Green.
Referred 61725 common address is 2743. North Greenview
Avenue change request M22 Light Industry.
Avenue change request M22 Light Industry District to rt4
residential 2. Flac townhouse
residential 2 Flac townhouse and multi-unit District. We
have attorney Michael esgar. Good afternoon Mr. Chairman uh
Michael esgar on the applicant,
Sadik l.
Sadik LLC. And as a preliminary matter, we do have
substitute plans.
substitute plans and narrative
Which I would respectfully request.
Which I would respectfully request to be incorporated. All
the woman Harris was to accept the substitute narrative and
plans for the type 1 application, all in favor. Say, I, I
any op.
any opposed say, nay and pay the eyes have it. Sub is
before us. Thank you very much. We met with at Alderman
waguespack Direction met with Wrightwood neighbors,
Association, who supported the
Association. Who supported the change, and there's a letter
on file. I'm available for any questions.
Uh, talk about the project uh, the I'm sorry 3.
Uh talk about the project uh the I'm sorry 3, this is for a
3 unit, 3 story.
3 unit, 3 story building with 3 parking spaces. Uh, and
3 unit, 3 story building with 3 parking spaces. Uh and uh,
there's also,
There's also some variations included.
there's also some variations included into the request and,
uh,
and, uh, all of those are contained in the narrative.
Thank you, Michael. Any questions about?
Thank you, Michael. Any questions about committee members?
Seeing none all them in Conway moves.
Seeing none all them in Conway moves do pass all in favor.
Say I I any opposed say nay.
Say I I any opposed say, nay the chair eyes, have it, item
is passed.
middle of the
Middle of the page is document number 22732 T1.
Middle of the page is document number 22732 T1 and the 32nd
Ward ordinance referred 41625.
32nd. Ward ordinance referred 41625 common address is 316
North Oakley Avenue.
North Oakley Avenue, change request, C12 neighborhood
commercial District to be 22 neighborhood. Mixed use
District.
Once again, Michael Asgard. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Michael
esgar on behalf of the applicant zsd, Oakdale LLC, uh again
this also has substitute plans and narrative, which I would
request to be incorporated.
request to be incorporated into the file almond. Hopkins
moves to accept the substitute.
moves to accept the substitute narrative and plans for the
type 1 application. All in favor, say, I I any opposed, say
name and chair eyes, have it sub?
name and chair eyes, have it. Substitute narrative and
plans are accepted. Thank you very much. Uh, this we work
closely with the Alderman's office on this to make sure
that we were uh getting the most optimal layout for
that we were uh, getting the most optimal layout for this
3-unit, uh, building uh, with
3-unit, uh, building, uh, with 3 stories and, uh, reduction
in parking by 1 spot. So, we have 2 parking spaces. Uh, we,
uh, again,
uh, again have worked with the Alderman's office to, for
this, as well as the administrative, uh, adjustments.
this, as well as the administrative, uh, adjustments for
the reduction in parking and um,
the reduction in parking and, um, and a variation to reduce
the minimum lot area I think.
the minimum lot area. I think Alderman waguespack might be
here.
waguespack might be here. Yes. All, do you want to add
anything?
Briefly. Uh, thanks chairman. Uh, yes. Um we
Briefly, uh, thanks chairman. Uh yes. Um, we worked with
Mr. Esgar, in a Costa on this. Um,
Mr. Esgar in a Costa on this. Um, the angles of the
property really created a tough position for them to to
work on this, but they came to a good khimprom.
work on this but they came to a good compromise and I would
just ask for the committee's uh, favorable support.
just ask for the committee's uh favorable support of this
item. Thank you. Thank you Alderman. Um,
Other Ben Hopkins moves to pass all in favor. Say I I I
didn't post say 9 P to try. The eyes have it. Item is
passed.
Bottom of page 7 is document number 2277.
Bottom of page. 7 is document number 2277821 and the 47th
Ward ordinance.
Ward ordinance referred 61725 common address is 3
Ward ordinance. Referred 61725 common address is 3664.
North Lincoln Avenue, change request. B1
North Lincoln Avenue change, request b11 neighborhood
shopping, district to be 255 neighbor.
shopping district to be 255 neighborhood. Mixed juice
District we have attorney. Uh,
District, we have attorney, uh, Michael esgar. Yes, thank
you. I'm filling in for my partner Orlando.
you. I'm filling in for my partner. Orlando and on behalf
of the applicant weave in Lincoln.
of the applicant. We live in Lincoln LLC, uh, this, uh, we
work closely again, with Alderman, Martin's office, and uh,
North Center, neighbors, and North Center Chamber of
Commerce to, uh, obtain approval for the, uh, 16 units,
with 3 affordable units.
3, affordable units on site uh, reduction in parking to
3, affordable units on site uh reduction in parking to 6.
Parking spaces and there's uh,
parking spaces. And there's uh the uh variations uh,
parking spaces and there's uh the uh, variations uh that
are required also for the project. Um, and that are all
incorporated into the narrative and
incorporated into the narrative. And I'm available for any
questions. Thank you, Mr. As
any questions. Thank you, Mr. Asar, any questions by
committee members, seeing none all in Hopkins, with d.
pass, all in favor.
say I I I and they post say nay
Say I I I and they post say, nay the chair eyes. Have an
item is passed. Thank you very much. All right. Uh on top
of page 8 I'm going to take a motion document number 22731
and the 14th Ward ordinance.
and the 14th. Ward ordinance referred 41625 common address
is 4601 through 25 West, 47th Street.
is 4601 through 25 West, 47th Street change, request M12,
limited manufacturing business park district,
limited manufacturing, business park district, 1022 Light
Industry District. All
Conway moves to defer this item, uh,
Conway moves to defer this item. Uh, all in favor say I I
any opposed say nay to ensure the eyes have it. Item is
deferred.
Also.
also, deferring document number 2278421 and the 37th Ward
ordinance referred 61725
ordinance. Referred 61725 common address is 418 North lever
Avenue.
Avenue, change request RS3 residential, single unit
detached house districts,
detached house districts to RT 3.5 residential 2, flat
townhouse,
townhouse and multi-unit District. All the person Fuentes
moves to defer this previously, read item all in favor. Say
I
Say I I I and a post, share the eyes have it.
Document number.
222786 in the 43rd w.
222786 in the 43rd Ward ordinance, referred 61725.
Uh, we have a, a scrivener's error. The common address is
2447 through 2449 North holstead.
Change request, B12, neighborhood shopping.
Change request, B12. Neighborhood shopping district to see
1 2 neighborhood commercial districts. We have attorney Tom
Moore. Thank you very much Mr. Chairman
Moore, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman and members of the
committee. Uh, this is a
committee. Uh this is a this is an existing uh Tavern.
committee. Uh, this is a, this is an existing, uh, Tavern
that has a very nice space next to it. They could be an
outdoor patio. Uh,
outdoor patio, uh, but uh, they can't get it with the B1.
So by going to a a C1, they will be able to expand their
liquor license.
liquor license and have the patio. We had a community
meeting.
meeting and uh, there were some questions and
meeting and uh, there was some questions and concerns which
were noted and will be
uh, uh,
Taking care of in.
taking care of, in a plan of operation and the alderman.
Taking care of, in a plan of operation and the alderman.
Uh,
uh, representative was there and took the notes and the
alderman supports it and we request your support as well.
Great. Uh, we have heard from the AL
Great. Uh, we have heard from the aldermen on. This was in
support any questions by committee members.
support, any questions by committee members, seeing none.
All the person Fuentes moved to pass. All in favor say I
All the person Fuentes moved to pass all in favor, say I I
any opposed the eyes have it? Thank you.
I any opposed the eyes have it. Thank you, Mr. Moore. All
right. Uh, moving now to
right? Uh, moving now, to, um, the top of page 9,
right? Uh, moving now to, um, the top of page 9 document
number 2278321 and the 43rd Ward ordinance referred 61725
number 2278321 and the 43rd Ward ordinance, referred 61725
common address is 2600 through 26.
common address is 2600 through 2610. North Clark Street
change request b35.
change request b35, Community shopping district to be 35
community.
Community shopping district, we have attorney Katrina
Maguire, good afternoon. Um Katrina McGuire from Thompson
Coburn here on the applicant um as noted Mr. Chairman
Coburn here on the applicant, um, as noted, Mr. Chairman, I
would just ask that the substitute narrative and plans,
would just ask that the substitute narrative and plans be
adopted please, yes, almond Conway moves to accept the
substitute narrative and plans for the type 1 application.
All in favor. Say, I, I and the opposed say, nay, the
chair, the eyes have it, substitute is before us. Uh, thank
you. This is a revision essentially to a previously
approved plan. Um, this
Involves uh, 48.
Involves uh 48. Uh, dwelling units. Um and
Involves uh 48. Uh dwelling units, um and 10 parking spaces.
Uh, this has
spaces. Uh, this has gone through in a robust Community
engagement process.
engagement process, um, with Alderman Knutson and I believe
we have his support as well.
Oh, you do we have a question from Alderman Hopkins,
though?
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and uh, I have
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and, uh, I have discussed
this matter. Uh, with my colleague Alderman. Kuden. I'm
this matter, uh, with my colleague Alderman. Kuden. I'm in
full support of him and his community process, but just,
uh, 1 question in particular that did come up, uh, this
corner is uh, Clark and Wrightwood is unique.
corner is, uh, Clark. And Wrightwood is a unique and the,
uh, angle of the in
angle of the intersection because Clark makes kind of a, a
Joe
a, a jog dog leg there. Uh, so it's particularly difficult.
when you're Southbound on Clark Street to make the right.
right-hand turn and go West on to write would, uh, did that
come up in discussion of the logistics of the site, uh, and
was there any discussion?
was there any discussion about possibly changing, uh, the
parking, the loading zone, whatever might be uh, on the on
that hard corner of Clark and Wrightwood.
Um, thank you, Mr. Hopkins Alderman Hopkins. Uh, yes, there
was, um,
there was, um, quite a bit of discussion about that access.
and um, that access has also been discussed with C dot as
well.
Okay. So, um, there's
okay, so um, there's consistent, um, sort of um,
acknowledgement that
that that works that this works the alley. Um,
that that works that this works the alley, um, which is
normally obviously a preferred access point is a very
unique, very tight, ye Ali on the North.
unique, very tight ye Ali on the North End of the project
that really did not allow access through the there's often
a cars parked illegally in there. That was not going to
allow you know vehicular access through their
allow, you know, vehicular access through their very
consistently. So therefore the the access was put onto to
uh diversity on rightward. Okay?
uh, diversity on rightward. Okay? And uh, obviously during
construction, you know, staging mobilization, things like
that would have a potential impact uh was that considered?
uh for the general contractor, you know to
uh for the general contractor, you know, to have some extra
awareness of the potential impact on traffic on Clark
Street based on what you do.
Street, based on what you do uh for the first say, you
know, 75 feet,
75 feet uh, going West on Wrightwood. Yeah. Certainly
know, 75 feet uh going West on Wrightwood. Yeah. Certainly
Alderman. I think that this is a very challenging site,
right? And obviously consideration is going to have to be
given to
consideration is going to have to be given to ensure that
this is at least.
Disruptive as possible. Okay, thank you. Uh, move approval.
Uh, thank you Alderman. This, uh, this, this was here
before.
right, right. It was it was a slightly larger development
at that point. Um it changed hands. Um so very similar
design. Um actually scaled down from what it was
design um, actually scaled down from what it was
previously, um, but that's right. It
Um, but that's right. It was here less than a year ago.
Right. Um, I'm heading south on Clark while Alderman.
Hopkins is heading north. Um so uh he moves to hop
Hopkins is heading north. Um so uh he moves to Hopkins,
moves to pass on favor. Say I I any opposed
moves to pass on favor say I I any oppose chair. The eyes
have it items passed.
next up, document number, 22770
Next up document number 227770221 in the 44th Ward
ordinance referred 52.
ordinance referred 52125, common address is 3127.
ordinance referred 52125. Common address is 3127 to 3139
North Hall State Street.
North Hall, said Street and 749 to 759.
North Hall said Street and 749 to 759 West, Briar place.
Uh, change requests.
Uh, change requests is b32 community shopping district to
be.
be 255 neighborhood. Mixed use District.
Attorney Katrina Maguire. Thank you again for the record.
Katrina. Katrina McGuire from Thompson Coburn here on the
applicant. Uh, we would ask that in this 1 as well, that is
substitute narrative and plans be adopted, Alvin
substitute narrative. And plans be adopted Alvin Conway
moves to accept the substitute narrative and plans for the
type 1,
type 1 application. All in favor. Say, I, I any opposed
say, nay going to share the eyes have it for the substitute
narrative and plans are accepted. Thank you. Um, this is an
exciting project.
exciting project and essentially the Adaptive reuse of the
former Briar Street Theater. Where probably everybody in
this chamber got to enjoy Blue Man Group.
this chamber got to enjoy Blue Man. Group at least once.
um, over its many, uh, years
um, over its many uh, years uh, in Chicago, um, being re
reused now for essentially a residential development with
66, um, units,
uh, 66 by bicycle parking spaces and 14.
Uh, 66 by bicycle parking spaces and 14. Um, off street
parking spaces, it involves an addition to the
parking spaces. It involves an addition to the Briar
Street. Um, theater building
Street, um, theater building. Um, and then, um, a new
addition.
addition uh, building on the what is currently the
uh building on the what is currently the uh parking lot.
Uh, We've engaged through a rather robust.
We've engaged through a rather robust public engagement
process. Um, several
public engagement process. Um, several meetings, with
Southeast Lake View, neighbors. Um, we met directly with
our neighbors, to the South who were most impacted.
our neighbors, to the South who were most impacted by this
project and had a Comm award.
project, and had a Comm award wide community meeting as
well. Uh, we do enjoy the support.
well. Uh, we do enjoy the support of Southeast Lake View.
Uh, neighbors. And we are certainly hopeful. We enjoy
Alderman loss and support as well.
Thank you.
Hot off the press. Uh, we met with selvan last night's. Um,
I've obviously been in support of this to be able to have
an Adaptive reuse to this.
an Adaptive reuse to this theater, which has been an icon
in Lake View for
As long as anyone can remember, uh, but I think you're
right. I think every everyone saw blue man. At least once
during its uh, 27 year run, uh, this there will
significantly less traffic here without buses of kids.
significantly less traffic here without buses of kids
coming from here to the Gerardo on Belmont.
coming from here to the Gerardo on Belmont um while we love
that uh academic activity certain
love that uh academic activity. Certainly during the day,
uh we're excited to welcome, 66 New.
we're excited to welcome, 66 new prop residents to our
neighborhood. Any questions by committee members at all?
Seeing none. All person Fuentes was due pass. All in favor.
Say I. All right, and they post say the chair, the eyes
have it.
it item is passed. Thank you very much, thank you.
All right. Bottom of page 9, its document. Number 2.
All right. Bottom of page 9, its document number 22787 T1.
And the 48th.
And the 48th Ward ordinance referred 61725
and the 48th Ward ordinance, referred 61725, common address
is 1454 West. Victoria Street change, request RS3
residential, single unit detached house, district to rt4.
residential 2, flat, townhouse and multi-unit District.
residential 2, flat townhouse, and multi-unit District. We
have attorney, Nicholas fetus.
Thank you, chair.
Thank you. Chairman um, for the record. Nick, fatigue is
from the law offices of
the law offices of Sam Banks. I'm here on behalf of the
applicants and property owners.
the applicants and Property Owners, uh, meeus and Elizabeth
Meisner. Uh, they own
Meisner, uh, they own and reside at the subject property.
Um,
um, 1554, I'm sorry, 1454
um, 1554, I'm sorry 1454, uh, West Victoria. It's a single
family home. They're proposing approximately a 239 or 240
square foot addition. Um, because their lot is substandard,
they need a little bit more floor.
they need a little bit more floor area, uh, relief and
that's what the zone.
change allows we're also as part of this filing, um, for uh
companion variations, which include the uh side and rear
setbacks uh again because of the Triangular lot, we did
work with the alderman. There should already be a letter of
support on file.
support on file and I'm happy to answer any questions you
or the committee members have. Thank you. Because we have
heard from all the women on Hop.
heard from all the women on hoppenworth on this matter. Uh,
any questions by committee members saying, none. All them
includes and moves do pass all in favor. Say I
includes and moves do pass all in favor. Say, I, I any
opposed the eyes have it.
Say, I, I any opposed the eyes have it.
uh, next to the top of page 10 is
Uh, next to the top of page 10 is document number 227500. T
Dash T1.
Dash T1 and the 302nd. Ward ordinance referred 521.
Dash T1 and the 302nd. Ward ordinance referred 52125.
Common address is 3045 through.
Common address is 3045 through 3047, Northwestern Avenue,
change request.
change request M12, limited manufacturing, business park
district to be 22, neighborhood mixed use District. Um, we
have, uh, again attorney, Nicholas fikas. Thank you,
chairman for the record, Nick fatigue on the
chairman for the record, Nick fatigue, on the applicant and
property, owner. Merit, let's Le
property owner Merit, let's levitzky, um, the subject
property is currently Zone.
property is currently zoned manufacturing. It's about 9700
square feet,
square feet of total lot area, and it's improved with, uh,
2
kind of hold over manufacturing or Warehouse type
buildings. Um, the plan is to take those buildings down.
develop the property with a 9 uh a 6-unit.
develop the property with a 9 uh a 6-unit, 4-story,
building, and a 3-unit
and a 3-unit 4-story building for a total of 9. Um this is
a mandatory type 1 application because we're changing the
zoning from a manufacturing District to a B2 District.
We are also seeking uh, the companion variations.
We are also seeking uh the companion variations to divide
the Lots um and allow for 1 to 1.
the Lots. Um and allow for 1 to 1 parking for the units. We
did work with uh, Alderman w.
did work with, uh, Alderman waguespack office and there
should already be a letter of support on file. Happy to
answer any questions. You might have. Thank you.
answer any questions. You might have. Thank you want to add
anything uh, chairman just
anything, uh, chairman just uh that he is correct. And we
just asked for the committee.
just asked for the committee's favorable support of this
item. Thank you. All right, thank you, almond.
item. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Alvin Hopkins. Moves due
pass all in favor. Say I I any
moves to pass all in favor? Say I I any opposed say
anything. I have it. Item is passed.
Last 1 for you, nick. Uh, middle of page.
Last 1 for you, nick, uh, middle of page. 10 is document
number 22651. Dash T1 and the
number 22651 Dash T1 and the 43rd Ward ordinance referred 1
152.
1 1525, common address is 25501, North Clark.
1 1525. Common address is 25501 North Clark Street.
Change request, B12.
Change request, B12, neighborhood shopping district to b35
community shopping.
community shopping district for the last time I believe
yes, for the
for the last time. Uh, so this project uh, does did
actually started with a very different concept. Um, we did
file substitute plans in a substitute narrative, so I would
ask that.
ask that the substitute plan and narrative be incorporated.
uh, yes, almond Conway was to accept the substitute
narrative and plans for the type 1 application on Fair. Say
I I any opposed say nay and the chair of the eyes have it,
substitute narrative and plans are accepted and sure as we
kind of work through the community process.
kind of work through the community process, we landed on a
6-story mixed use building. That would have approximately
3,775 square feet of retail and then a total of 20.
3,775 square feet of retail and then a total of 20 at first
floor and then a total of 20 residential units.
first floor and then a total of 20 residential units above.
Um, it is a landlock property, so
We are seeking a uh, A variation to reduce the parking.
We are seeking a uh A variation to reduce the parking to
zero. Um, we're Al seeking setback.
zero. Um, we're Al seeking setback relief uh at the rear
because of the substandard lot depth.
because of the substandard lot depth Dimension. Um lastly
the height of the building is calculated in 71 feet 6
inches. So we are asking for uh height increase Within
inches. So we are asking for uh height increase within the
10% allotment. Uh, we did work for about 6 months.
10% allotment. Uh, we did work for about 6 months with the
Alderman's office in the community group on the process.
And we believe,
we believe we have, uh, the alderman support to proceed
today.
Uh, Yes. Actually, we have all the men in with us.
Uh, Yes. Actually we have all the men in with us. Uh, tell
me. What would you like to add? Yep. Thank you chair. And
me, what would you like to add? Yep. Thank you, chair. And
this 1 actually goes kind of in line with the 2600 North
project. That Alderman Hopkins spoke on
project, that Alderman Hopkins, spoke on. Um right now
we're doing a lot to increase housing.
we're doing a lot to increase housing on Clark Street, you
know, between 2600250,
know, between 26002501 The Inn at Lincoln Park. Um, that
came through and we'll have a another new building next
month or next zoning meeting on Clark. Um, I really do
our best to increase increase, increase housing, and
increase. Our
increase Aro, affordable, housing this project at 251 North
North Clark, um, we always do pretty thorough Community
meetings.
meetings, not a controversial community meeting people in
this area. Want Clark, to fulfill its potential.
this area. Want Clark, to fulfill its potential and I'm
really grateful that there's the the development demand
there. What? I'll say too, is this project? Um,
there. What I'll say too, is this project um the design is
very popular in the ward. It Blends well in an area. That's
a mix of of um uh business historic propert.
That's a mix of of, um, uh, business historic properties.
And it's just a great red brick and we appreciate
The applicant's flexibility with our.
The applicant's flexibility with our um, design input, that
we wanted.
we wanted done, um, on this 1 like like Nick mention
we wanted done um on this 1 like like Nick mentioned. We've
been working on it for maybe 6 months.
We've been working on it for maybe 6 months, our, uh, when
it comes to Clark, Street, our straight
comes to Clark Street, our strategy right now have cut, the
red tape is US telling developers to hurry up. We really
are pushing developers. When a project is, is is
are pushing developers. When a project is is is popular to
just uh, move and get
just uh move and get going. And I hope that this is built
fast because we need the units in the war. We're going to
be benefited by the Aro and the ward. Um, and I strongly
strongly support this project and the other few that we
have coming up, thanks.
Great. What's the total unit account, 20 residential?
Great. What's the total unit account 20 residential units
over, uh, about
over uh, about 3,775 square feet of retail? Again, that was
part of the substitute. We had a very different mass and
program.
program to start.
Right, any questions by committee mem?
Right. Any questions by committee members I'm in Hopkins
and I still need to get up and down, Clark Street.
and I still need to get up and down, Clark streets. You
missed that conversation on your last item, so just keep
that in mind.
that in mind, Alvin Hopkins moves to pass all in favor. Say
I I ended the post say, name the chair. I have an item.
I I ended the post say, name the chair. I have an item has
passed. Thank you. Thank you, thank you Nick. Um,
passed. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Nick. Um, bottom
of 10 is document. Number 22763 and the 25.
10 is document number 22763 and the 25th, Ward ordinance
referred 52125.
referred 52125, common address is 1441 through 1471,
referred 52125, common address is 1441 through 1471 South
Blue Island,
1,200 to 12.
1,200 to 1228 West 15th Street 1434 to 14.
1,200 to 1228 West 15th Street 1434 to 1458, South Blue
Islands, change requests.
Islands. Change requests, plan. Development number. 1067.
As amended.
amended to plan development number. 1067, as amended.
We have attorney.
We have attorney Lenny, asaro.
Good afternoon, uh, members of the committee. Um, my name
is Lenny asaro. I'm a partner at the law firm of fager
Drinker, Biddle and wreath. Uh, we represent the applicant
pilson Gateway l.
pilson Gateway. LLC president, with me today, is Andrew
Barry. Who is a representative of the applicant also
present is Eddie Modi. Um, he is the prospective
commercial,
present is Eddie Modi. Um, he is the prospective commercial
tenant. Um, the applicant seeks to amend residential
business plan development number. Uh, 1067, uh, with
respect to the subject property, um, that was described the
applicant seeks to amend the p.
applicant seeks to amend the PD to add, um, the following
uses in sub,
uses in sub area, a restaurant medical service office.
retail sales as permitted uses and the following uses in
sub area B restaurant Tavern.
sub area. B restaurant. Tavern outdoor patio located at
grade level. Liquor store, liquor store, sales medical
service office and retail sales as permitted uses no
proposed changes to the size or bulk of the existing
changes to the size or bulk of the existing, um, 7 story
building or the improvements.
building, or the improvements there on, uh, the number of
dwelling units, the number of Park.
Spaces the size of the commercial space and the height of
the existing.
the existing building all will remain the same. Um, the
application to amend. The PD was recommended for approval
at the June 26th 2025 plan commission meeting I would
respectfully request that the transcript and all documents
presentations and records of that meeting be admitted.
presentations and records of that meeting be admitted into
the record of this meeting of the committee. The item was
heard and passed by the Chicago plan commission all the
person Fuentes.
person Fuentes makes the motion to incorporate all records
and findings from that hearing all in favor. Say, I I, I
and findings from that hearing all in favor. Say I, I, I, I
have the records are Incorporated. Thank you. All also, I
respectfully request the substitute ordinance that we
worked on. Uh,
worked on uh with the Department of Planning and
Development staff after filing the application.
Development staff. After filing, the application be
admitted into the record of this meeting of the committee.
Sure. I
Sure, I just have good. Yes, there's a sub here.
It's not in my notes, there's a sub.
Good. All right. Uh,
thank, you know, I don't
Thank, you know, I don't need to accept the sub as well. We
already did it. Thank you. That was bonus. Suspenders.
Thank you. All right.
Thank you. All right, uh, PD was originally approved on
July.
July 19th, 2007. Uh, there was an amendment on July 25th of
2012 between 2012 and 2021. There were some minor changes.
um uh the applicant seeks to amend the p.
Um, uh, the applicant seeks to amend the PD to among other
reasons, allow for the build out of the first floor.
reasons. Allow for the build out of the first floor. Retail
space located at the corner of 14th Place in
space located at the corner of 14th Place. In Blue Island
for a liquor store Tavern and outdoor ground level patio.
Um the applicant and proposed tenant have met
Communicated with almond Lopez is as well as.
Communicated with almond Lopez is, as well as the 25th. Ward
zoning Advisory Board. Uh, all have indicated
zoning Advisory Board. Uh all have indicated support or no
opposition to the proposed amendment and project. As I
mentioned plan commission, this is a really important.
mentioned plan commission. This is a really important
application from the standpoint of this is now the first
time that the retail is going to be activated in this
building, which is a beautiful building by the way.
building, which is a beautiful building, by the way done
by, um, Cedar Street. Thank you. Alright. Alright.
by, um, Cedar Street. Thank you. Alright. Alright, any
questions by committee members may ask what's the business
business? The tavern with the patio and okay, you have
others.
The tavern with the patio and okay, you have others nearby
or in the city 3 and you're expanding
or in the city 3, and you're expanding on our city.
Excellent, thank you. Good luck to you. All right,
Excellent, thank you. Good luck to you. All right. Um,
Alvin Conway moves do pass All In
Alvin Conway moves do pass all in favor say I
I and they post say name. I have it item is passed again.
Thank you have a great.
Thank you have a great day.
Um, top of page 11 is
Um top of page 11 is document number. 22746 and the 2.
Um top of page 11 is document number, 22746 and the 26th
for an ordinance referred 52125. Common address is 1535
North Lawndale Avenue, change requests RS3 residential,
single unit,
single unit district to be 23 neighborhood, mixed use
District
districts. Um, we have attorney, Amy Kirsten,
Well, I don't see.
any, any
Ores. All right. We're going to come back to that.
Zubin here. Document number 225931 in the 27th.
Zubin here, document number 225931 in the 27th, Ward
ordinance, refer 102224, common
ordinance refer 102224, common address is 1500, North troop
change request.
change requests. M23 Light Industry District to C3.
change requests, M23 Light Industry District to c33,
commercial manufacturing and employment District. We have
attorney Zubin kammula
Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman behalf of the applicant
through Studios LLC, uh, with me is Jennifer Delrin who
through Studios LLC uh, with me is Jennifer Delrin. Who is
a manager and member of the applicant.
a manager and member of the applicant entity
uh,
Uh, as a preliminary matter, uh, this this came before the
Chicago.
Chicago plan commission last month on June 26th, I would
ask that uh, the transcript and all the
ask that uh the transcript and all the associated documents
from the plan commission hear.
from the plan commission, hearing be incorporated to the
record here. Yes. S
record here. Yes, that was her and pads by the Chicago plan
commission, almond.
commission, almond, mix and motion to incorporate all
records and findings from that hearing,
All in favor. Say I I, I post
All in favor, say I I I post say nay pin the chair eyes.
Have it records or Incorporated. Thank you.
Have it records are Incorporated. Thank you. Uh, the
subject property as a primary
property as a primary address of 1500 North Throop Street
uh the applicant currently operates.
Uh the applicant currently operates a commercial
photography studio at the location. The purpose of the
rezoning is to allow for the operation of a private event
space.
space, the application.
Will apply for a public place of amusement.
Will apply for a public place of amusement license uh
subject to the map. Am
subject to the map amendment being approved. Uh, the
Process, uh, we went through.
Process. Uh, we went through a community approval process.
Alderman Bernett is in support of the application and we're
happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Great. Any questions by committee members seeing none, all
the person, for instance, most to pass all in favor. Say I
I any opposed say nay, the ice had them is passed.
I any opposed say nay. The ice had them is passed. Thank
you, thank you. Um, we're going to go just to the top of
the page real quick. Um,
Document number. 22746 then 26.
Document number 22746 then 26 word ordinance referred
52125. Common address 1535 North Lawndale change request.
RS3 residential, single unit district to be 23
neighborhood. Mixed use district is being referred to the
request of the attorney.
request of the attorney, uh, Alderman Conway moves, uh, to
defer
All in favor. Say I I, I
All in favor. Say I I I may post say day didn't the chair.
The eyes have it. Item is deferred.
I'm sorry, we're going to skip you.
I'm sorry. We're going to skip you after motioning you down
here.
down here, Alderman. Likes to testify any better to get her
fast because we're running.
fast because we're running out of time. Um, so just don't
go far. Just just stay right there. All right, so
Then other than 19.
Then other than 19th. Ward, we're saying.
To the staff, the staff.
Okay.
Uh, tryst.
Uh, Tristan car has a zenoss for Alderman OA with the 19th
w. I
19th. Ward, I apologize. All right, let's do that. Let me
read these in. We're gonna take all 3 at once since they're
automatic, right? Excellent. All right.
they're automatic, right? Excellent. All right. They're all
separate. All right. We'll do 1 at a time. All right.
Document number 8, 8968 and the 19th Ward.
Document number 8 8968 and the 19th, Ward ordinance,
referred 41625 common addresses.
referred 41625 common addresses, 8859, South Beverly,
Avenue and 9.
Avenue, and 95415, South Charles Avenue.
Avenue and 95415. South Charles Avenue change request is an
rs2 residential single unit.
an rs2 residential single unit of detached house districts
to ps-1.
to ps-1 parks and open space District.
staff, this, this this area is part of a, uh,
Staff, this, this this area is part of a, uh, historic bike
trail called the major Taylor Trail.
and Alderman, OSHA is requesting that this
And Alderman, OSHA is requesting that this be added to the
adjacent Park area.
adjacent Park area, uh, owned by Chicago Park District,
otherwise known as Cosmic Park Maggie Cosby Park.
Um,
um, and request the uh, favorable vote from
Um, and request the uh, favorable vote from the committee
on zoning.
Right, any questions?
Right? Any questions by committee members seeing none, all
them includes, and was due.
them includes, and was due pass all in favor? Say I, I I
and the post say nay
the post say nay and the chair eyes have it item is passed.
top of page. 4 is document number. A 8993 and the 19th
word, ordinance, referred 5.
ordinance referred 52125. Common address 114
ordinance referred 52125 common address 11423 to 11427
South home and Avenue.
Change requests in rt4 residential 2, flat townhouse.
Change requests in rt4 residential 2, flat townhouse and
multi-unit, District to rs2 residential.
multi-unit District to rs2 residential single unit detached
house district. Uh
house district uh Tristan once again
uh, these 2 properties which are adjacent, um, were
Uh, these 2 properties which are adjacent. Um, were at 1
Point, somehow resand, we believe
Point. Somehow resand, we believe to, um, actually, uh,
Build a home on a sidelock. Um, it is now improved
currently improved with.
currently improved with 2 single family homes. We've spoken
with the owner of the home
owner of the home is as well as the adjacent neighborhoods
and they are all in full support.
and they are all in full support to rezone this to what it
should properly be. Which
should properly be, which is rs2.
And we ask for the most favorable.
Uh, vote from the committee. Great.
Uh, vote from the committee great. Any questions by
committee members hearing none, all in Hopkins,
committee members hearing none, all in Hopkins. Moves due
pass all in favor. Say I I any opposed say nay and the
chair eyes. Have it item uh is passed. Thank
chair eyes. Have it item? Uh is passed. Thank you. All
right, and then finally, document number 8 899,
right, and then finally document number 88992 and the 19th.
Ward ordinance referred 52125. Common address is 1905 West.
115th Street change request, RS3 residential sing.
115th Street change request, RS3 residential, single unit,
detached house, district to rs2 Res.
detached house district to rs2 residential single unit
detached house district.
Substitute. Thank you. Uh, this is a string of 5 pins right
in a row. Um, the middle of which all the 4 of them are
zoned rs2 and the middle,
zoned rs2 and the middle of which is zoned, RS3, and the AL
alderman is requesting that they become uniform and rezone
the center, which is 1905. West, 115th Street be, uh,
resand RS.
rs2 to become uniform with the other vacant.
rs2 to become uniform with the other vacant Lots
And request a favorable.
And request a favorable vote from the committee.
We have a sub on this so alderman.
We have a sub on this. So Alderman Conway makes a motion to
accept the substitute ordinance on favor. Say, I
to accept the substitute ordinance on favor. Say, I I any
opposed the eyes have it, the substitute.
opposed, the eyes have it. The substitute is before us if
no further questions by committee members, uh, all their
persons Fuentes move to pass all.
persons Fuentes, move to pass all those in favor. Say I, I,
I and I post say the chair.
I and I post say, nay the chair eyes. Have it item is
passed. Thank you from the
Thank you from the n v. I did have um 1 other 1. That was
Thank you from the n v. I did have um 1 other 1 that was a
an attorney representative. Yeah.
an attorney representative that 1 already.
That went. Okay, yep.
That went okay. Yep, excellent, thank you. And we passed
it. You tell us
That's good. All the Shea is aware of and has no objection
to it. Great. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right,
we're going to return to the bottom of page 11.
we're going to return to the bottom of page 11 in 28th
Word. Document number 226.
Word. Document number 22694 Ordnance referred 3122.
Word. Document number 22694 Ordnance. Referred 31225 common
address is 3415 through.
address is 3415 through 3449 West Jackson Boulevard and 34
3414 to 3456 West 5th Avenue.
3414 to 3456 West 5th Avenue, change requests and rm5
residential multi-,
Districts and b33 Community shopping district to.
Districts and b33 Community shopping district, to be 23
neighborhood, mixed-use districts. And then to plan
development, uh we have attorneys, Steve Freeland.
development, uh we have attorneys, Steve Freeland, good
afternoon. My name is Steve Freeland with blue law.
afternoon. My name is Steve Freeland with blue law, firm of
Applegate and Thorn Thompson here on behalf of the, uh,
applicant Harvest Homes 2.
applicant Harvest Homes 2 Apartments LLC. This is an
affordable housing development that is proposed as a second
phase of what is referred to as harvest.
phase of what is referred to as Harvest Homes, 1. Um, and
the applicant is a joint venture between 2, not for-profits
that have done a lot of Housing Development.
that have done a lot of Housing Development, The People's
Community Development Association of Chicago.
Community Development Association of Chicago or PAC and the
nhp foundation have 2 representatives from our development
team here.
team here with me Veronica Gonzalez, who's with the nhp
foundation and from our architect at Urban's works.
foundation and from our architect at Urban's Works. Uh
Jamon nul is here as well. This did go to the Chicago plan
Commission on June.
Commission on June 26th where it received a favorable, uh,
Recommendation. And we would request that all proceedings
and findings.
and findings of the plan commission, be incorporated into
the record is
the record, is item was heard and passed by the plan
commission alderman.
Hopkins moves makes a motion incorporate all records and
findings.
findings from that hearing all in favor. Say, I, I, and
opposed say nay and the chair the eyes have it, the records
are Incorporated. Thank you. This is a mixed-use project.
project there's going to be 50 units. All affordable.
housing and what's really exciting is
what's really exciting is on the East End and you can see
it on the picture of their there is going to be a um food.
a, um, food, uh, um Court. Uh,
a, um, food, uh, um Court, uh, restaurant use. So, um,
which when
when we were, uh, at the plan commission, uh,
which when we were, uh, at the plan commission, uh, Pastor
Michael Edy indicated that, you know.
Michael Edy indicated that, you know, there really is no
use like this anywhere near this location in the community.
So it's really a needed use. Um, we're certainly willing to
take any questions from the committee. I see that alderman.
take any questions from the committee. I see that Alderman.
Ervin is here. So we'll we would certainly defer to him.
Great Alvin. Thank you Mr. Chairman
Great Alvin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, um, as as Miss stated
this is a uh an extension of another
stated, this is a uh, an extension of another affordable
housing development a Harvest Homes 1.
housing development a Harvest Homes 1, which is about a
half a block away going to the West.
half a block away, going to the west down, 5th Avenue. Um,
this is a continuation of bringing additional affordable
housing to the area. Um, I I say this and this is kind of
this is a, it's an unusual indictment on the state of
what's Happening. Uh, we open Harvest Homes, 1 for 38 units
had over
An applications for housing. We open a C40, which was an
extension of, um, a fifth City Commons, which is about 2
blocks away from that 58 units.
blocks away from that, 58 units, 1400 applications, uh, I
do not know what we will get when we open this. But what I
do know is that there's definitely a need for a more
affordable housing uh, in the
affordable housing uh in the Garfield Park Community. Uh,
definitely pleased with Pax performance on the first
component of this, and I think, uh, the community was
overwhelmingly supportive, uh, of the second phase and the
fact that we're bringing in some business into this in a
food Hall years ago, 5th.
food Hall years ago, 5th Avenue, uh, named 4 Fifth Avenue
in New York.
in New York City. Actually, uh, something interesting in
fact that
the fact that I learned and quite frankly, I'm actually
going to be coming back to the, to the committee with some
zoning variation.
zoning variation uh requests because it still has C2
zoning.
from back in eons ago. When that is not what it is today.
So, we'll be making additional.
today, so it will be making additional adjustments, but,
just to put that in perspective, it is going to bring
business.
business back to 5th Avenue when it has long been
Gone gone away. So again, we look for a favorable
recommendation for the committee and we appreciate your
support.
Alright, thank you so much. Uh chairman Irving looks like a
great project. Do I have any questions from committee?
a great project. Do I have any questions from committee
members saying, none, other than Conway moves to pass?
members saying none, other than Conway moves to pass all in
favor say I? All right, any opposed say, nay.
favor say I? All right, any opposed say, nay in the chair,
I have an item is passed. Congratulations. Best of luck.
All right.
This is the final item. Everyone.
All right, on the top of page 12 document number 22.
all right, on the top of page, 12 document number 22225
located in the
Located in the 32nd, Ward ordinance referred 7192.
Located in the 32nd. Ward ordinance. Referred 71923. Common
address is 1840 through 18.
address is 1840 through 1866 North Marcy Avenue change.
request M23 Light Industry District.
request M23 Light Industry District to beat 333.
and then to
And then to a residential business plan development. Uh, we
have attorney, uh, Katie janky Dale
Thank you. Good afternoon for the record, my name is Katie
Jinky Dale from the law firm of De Piper along with my
colleague Rich Cloud. We represent the applicant 18.
colleague Rich Cloud. We represent the applicant 1840,
North Mercy, LLC joined today, by Fred, croll with the
applicant. Um, as you can see on the screen.
applicant. Um, as you can see, on the screen, the
properties of former CEO Robinson site located on the west
side of Marcy, just south of Armitage. This matter Was
Heard,
heard at the June 20th, 2024 plan commission hearing it
would request that the transcript from that hearing be
incorp
be incorporated into the record today.
the item was heard and passed by the Chicago plan
commission, all the person Fuentes makes a motion to
incorporate all records and findings from that hearing all
in favor. Say I I on a posture, I
in favor. Say I I on a posture I have at the records are
Incorporated. Thank you of note follow.
Incorporated. Thank you of note. Following the plan
commission, hearing the team worked very closely.
commission, hearing the team worked, very closely with dpd,
the 302 word and C do to add additional area
infrastructure, improvements to The Proposal.
improvements to the proposal, which includes approximately
4.7 million in improvements.
4.7 million in improvements, that will be funded as part of
the development above and beyond what the PD would
otherwise warrant.
Those improvements include.
Those improvements include signal timing updates.
Pedestrian bumps and new and improved crosswalks in the
area. Additionally following
Additionally following uh following plan commission, we
made some modifications to the plan including reducing the
unit count from
the unit count from 615 to 590 and reducing the parking
count from initially 360.
count from initially 360 um parking spaces to 147.
from initially 360 um parking spaces to 147 this uh
resulted also in a decrease in height in sub area. Ah these
are all reflected.
are all reflected in an updated bulk table and application
that
application that have been provided to dpd, um, and we
would ask to substitute those in given. The occurred post
plan Comm,
plan Commission,
all of them makes a motion to accept the substitute.
Log table narrative implants.
Um, correct.
All In.
All in favor. Say I I opposed say, name for the chair I
have it before.
um,
Um, the uh, team is available for any questions. We'd like
to thank alderman.
thank Alderman wages pack who stepped into this process
after we've been working.
after we've been working on it for quite a long time with
the previous Alderman, Alder,
the previous Alderman, Alderman, Hopkins. I know mentioned
it earlier, uh, in today's hearing, um, we're available for
any questions about we, uh, do appreciate both the help,
um, and support from both.
um, and support from both Alderman and the, uh, very City
Department. So, over the last 4 years, that we've been
working on this with that, we're available for any
questions. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Bye.
Uh, thanks chairman. Um, thank thank you colleagues, for
taking the time to let this uh project.
taking the time to let this uh project come forward. The
second time for Sterling Bay um
the, as you heard from the sub,
The as you heard from The Substitute, uh, there's been some
significant changes.
significant changes made and I think primarily due to the
affordable housing aspect of the project with some of the
parking reduction and agreed to today. Um, I would just ask
for the committee support of the project.
Any questions?
Any questions Alvin Hopkins.
I want to commend my colleague Alderman waguespack, uh, for
taking the Baton.
taking the Baton, in this relay, uh, and, and making it
better. There's some significant improvements here uh,
under your leadership and your community process Alderman
waguespack and I commend you
waguespack, and I commend you for it and for getting it
across the Finish Line. Uh, but I do want to acknowledge
that, uh, from the outset. Uh, you know, there was some
kind
Controversy about this project. Um, back when it was in my
ward as well as 9132, there's a variety of opin.
ward as well as 9132, there's a variety of opinions about
this and our job as Alderman is
this and our job as Alderman, is of course, to entertain
all those opinions. Uh, take them all into serious
consideration. Uh, and at the end of the day, um, make a
decision that's in the best interests of our neighborhood
and our city as a whole, uh, that is exactly the are
that I made earlier today, uh, in opposition.
that I made earlier today. Uh, in opposition to the Adu
ordinance, uh, because it takes that process,
ordinance, uh, because it takes that process away from us,
this is an example.
This is an example of why that process works. How it
This is an example of why that process works how it works.
And when it works, it results in the best.
And when it works, it results in the best possible
decision, uh, which you see before,
decision, uh, which you see before us here today. So,
again, alderman waguespack
again, Alderman waguespack, uh, commend you for, uh,
leading the, uh,
leading the uh, uh, Community, uh, to this conclusion and,
uh, look forward to the groundbreaking. Uh, I'm in support
and I move to pass.
Thank you, Alvin Hopkins. You're really rubbing in that Adu
vote, aren't you?
Any questions by committee members?
1 of those voted? Yes. All the person moves to pass.
1 of those voted? Yes. All the person moves to pass all in
favor. Say I, I post say nay.
favor. Say I, I post say. Nay eyes have it? Thank you. Uh,
item is passed. Is there being no?
item is passed. Is there being no further business before
the body, all the crud and moves to
the body? All the crud and moves to adjourn? I'll ever say
I I we are a journ
And that's what the pickup.