Good morning everyone. We are waiting for, uh, quorum to
begin. Just to let you all know when public.
begin, just to let you all know when public comment begins,
each person will get 2 minutes as we have.
Each person will get 2 minutes as we have more than 10
people that want to speak. So,
people that want to speak. So it wouldn't be 3 minutes
each. They would get 2 minutes. Each just want to.
each. They would get 2 minutes. Each just want to make sure
we let everybody know beforehand. So no 1's caught uh
surprise, thank you very much.
I lost my voice, so that
I lost my voice. So the speaking for me, uh, the committee
on immigrant and Refugee Rights.
on immigrant and Refugee Rights will now come to order
today, we have 3 items on the agenda, the first of which is
to approve the prior meetings rule
to approve the prior meetings, rule 45 report. The second
is taking up. The matter of an
is taking up the matter of an order to provide counsel
data around a
Data around a potential welcoming city ordinance violation.
Where votes may be taken
where votes may be taken and the third, and final is a
brief update on activities.
update on activities of the committee on Refugee, uh,
immigrant Refugee Rights with no vote to be taken as well.
We will begin with a roll call to establish Quorum, uh,
alderwoman Dow
alderwoman.
Alderwoman Gutierrez.
Alder person.
Alder person, cusan.
uh, Al
Uh, Alder person Rodriguez.
Alder person.
Alder person, Fuentes.
Alderman Talya Ferro.
Umm, Al
Um, Alder woman cruise I believe is up there.
uh, other person other main Cardona, I
Uh, other person other main Cardona, I believe also uh
other 1 Rodriguez Sanchez.
Uh, other person Casada.
Alderwoman may not happen worth.
Uh, order woman Haden.
uh,
Uh, Vice chair. Taylor, I believe is virtual
Uh, and thank you. Uh and
Uh, and thank you uh and myself present.
uh, 1 2 3 4 5,
uh, I think he's virtual there are
Uh, I think he's virtual. There are 9 members present. We
have a quorum
Any non-members present? No. Okay.
Uh, Alder persons Cruise.
Uh, Alder persons Cruise Taylor. Uh, and Cardona have
requested a virtual option for Committee hearing attendance
in accordance with rule, 59 of the city council Rules of
Order. Can I get a motion to allow them to attend this
meeting virtually?
So moved by.
So moved by all the person Rodriguez hearing no objection.
So ordered
at this time, we will begin the public comment period.
At this time, we will begin the public comment period. The
period is limited to 30 minutes out of respect for
everyone's time.
everyone's Time. Each speaker is limited to 2 minutes. Uh,
remote speakers will comment first followed by those in
person as of 10 a.m. uh, Monday June.
person, as of 10, a.m. uh, Monday, June 30th, 2025 zero
callers have requests.
callers, have requested to speak today. So we will move on
to in-person speaking.
Our first speaker is Jordan.
Our first speaker is Jordan, Esparza Kelly?
Hello.
Hello committee.
My name is.
my name is Jordan, Esparza Kelly and I'm here on
My name is Jordan, Esparza Kelly and I'm here on behalf of
K Chicago.
We are an organization.
We are an organization that advocates for the civil.
We are an organization that advocates for the civil rights
of Muslims in the Chicago land.
of Muslims in the Chicago land area.
We are.
we are particularly concerned with the incidents of
We are particularly concerned with the incidents of June 4th
mostly because we don't know.
4th mostly because we don't know what it would entail.
and,
And how deep these violations go.
And we're dealing with a lot of immigration.
And we're dealing with a lot of immigration and Asylum
cases. So,
Inside of these violations. We're trying to figure out
Inside of these violations, we're trying to figure out how
do we in good conscience. Tell people to continue to follow
these.
these legal processes that they are being summoned for. If
they are then going to be
they are, then going to be taken away for following the
legal processes. So this is something that's at the
Forefront of our concern at care. And we are just trying to
figure out how to best manage our communities concerns
while also not gepard.
While also not jeopardizing them and Advising them,
perhaps.
While also not jeopardizing them and Advising them, perhaps
incorrectly.
so, this is causing a lot of fear in the community, and
So, this is causing a lot of fear in the community and also
a lot of confusion.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Our next speaker is Nina sedeno with latino policy.
Our next speaker is Nina sedeno with latino policy forum.
Good morning. Uh, chairperson.
Good morning, uh, chairperson, uh, Vasquez and members of
the committee. My name is
committee. My name is Nina segno, senior immigration policy
analyst, with the
policy analyst, with the Latino policy Forum, a nonprofit
advocacy.
advocacy, and policy organization, working to advance, and
Empower Latino and immigrant communities throughout
Illinois. I'm also the proud granddaughter of Mexican Irish
and Italian immigrants.
and Italian immigrants I stand before. You today
representing.
The Forum.
The Forum to urge a guest vote on today's or uh order.
which calls on the Chicago Police Department, oemc and the
mayor's office, to release all data and Communications
related to cpd's Presence at the isap building on June 4th.
related to cpd's Presence at the isap building on June 4th
2025.
The actions by.
The actions by Ice that day were harrowing and
unacceptable, like many of you. I watched as masked
individuals armed with rifles.
individuals armed with rifles harassed, peaceful
protesters, and disappeared community.
and disappeared community members in front of their
children.
Meanwhile.
meanwhile, CPD stood by and according to eyewitnesses
a perimeter that raises serious questions. Why were they
there?
Who or what were they?
Who, or what were they protecting? And more importantly did
their actions.
their actions, violate the Illinois. Trust act and
Chicago's welcoming City or
Chicago's welcoming city ordinance.
welcoming policies, like the
Welcoming policies like the Illinois, trust act and
welcoming city ordinance make.
welcoming city ordinance. Make communities safer healthier
and more economically vibrant. But only if they are
enforced when those
enforced, when those in power are held accountable. And
when there is trust between law enforcement and
communities, that's why the Forum joins others in calling
for a formal investigation by the Attorney General.
for a formal investigation by the Attorney General's office
with findings made public.
Thank you to our guests for being here today to help answer
the questions.
the questions of this committee and the public,
finally, the
Finally, The Forum would like to uplift, the individuals
who were disappeared that day.
who were disappeared that day and the nearly 20,000 people
in Chicago, who are
in Chicago who are monitored by Ice technology every day,
whether it's an ankle monitor or a phone app, this constant
surveillance causes real and Lasting harm stress anxiety
and fear. We call for more Humane alternatives to detention
and a future where all people, regardless of status are
treated with dignity and have access to opportunity. Let us
use our voices to advocate for more comp,
use our voices to advocate for more comprehensive
immigration reform.
Thank you very much.
Our.
Our, our next speaker will be Katie Ward. Uh, representing.
adult literacy programs in Chicago.
Hi everybody. Hi everybody. Thank you for the opportunity
to speak. My name is Katie and I'm the community literacy
program director at an, an organization.
program director, at an, an organization called literacy
works. I'm here today. Representing,
works. I'm here today representing 28 adult literacy
programs from maycash, Chicago.
Um, the Illinois policy Institute says that
um, the Illinois policy Institute says that 1 in 4 adults,
living in Cook County, struggle to read and write every
day. This number doesn't include adults that are learning
English or learning to read and write for the first time.
English or learning to read and write for the first time,
which is an issue for many immigrants and refugees as they
settle into their new homes, access to free quality.
settle into their new homes access to free quality adult
literacy education is essential for supporting immigrants
and refugees as they settle into their homes. At literacy
works, we believe literacy.
Must be recognized as a basic human, right? And I'm sure
that a lot of you.
that a lot of you would agree with that.
In Illinois.
in Illinois, adult literacy is only funded by the state and
by federal funding,
by federal funding. And then the new budget, they are
planning to eliminate all federal funding for adult
literacy programs. And we will only be able to use the
Secretary of State's money, which is not enough in the
current state. So,
current state. So I am here to build awareness of this
issue with the hopes of finding alternative funding for the
future of adult education.
future of adult education in Chicago, currently Chicago and
Cook County do not contribute to the cost of adult
education relying.
education relying solely on state and federal funding yet.
We know that these programs directly benefit your
constituents increase.
constituents. Increase the safety and well-being, and
holistic development of immigrant.
holistic development of immigrant, and refugees across the
city and county. And I recently met with Cook County
Commissioner of the 13th District.
Commissioner of the 13th District Justina Marita to address
this issue, and she was very eager to start the
conversation with her colleagues. So I'm asking for this
committee to join this effort to support adult education.
working to develop a funding stream, that does not depend
depend on the federal government. So, thank you for your
time and the adult literacy community.
Looks forward to working with.
Looks forward to working with you.
Thank you very much.
Our.
Our next speaker will be Xena poloa from the warehouse.
Our next speaker will be Xena poloa from the warehouse
workers for justice.
Hi, good morning. My name is j.
Hi, good morning. My name is Jenna, posa. I'm here with
warehouse workers for justice. A worker.
warehouse workers for justice. A worker Center that works
with warehouse workers in Chicago. And the collar counties
I'm here today to support the order.
I'm here today to support the order directing CPD and other
agencies to share data on the potential.
agencies to share data on the potential welcoming City
violations on June 4th,
violations on June 4th. This is just a starting point to
protect immigrant communities from the front.
protect immigrant communities from the threats from the
threats. They face that are likely to escalate further
What will Chicago do, if the federal government brings?
What will Chicago do if the federal government brings to
Chicago? The militarized presence, they are showing in Los
Angeles. It's bad enough. That ice agents are heavily
armed.
Angeles. It's bad enough. That ice agents are heavily armed
and masking themselves allegedly for their own safety.
and masking themselves, allegedly for their own safety and
in disregard of the safety of everyone else, it's
in disregard of the safety of everyone else. It's also bad
enough that other federal agents are getting enlisted into
immigration enforcement. These agencies are using
increasingly violent tactics, such as smashing car.
increasingly violent tactics, such as smashing car,
windshields shoving unarmed individuals and sometimes
wrestling.
wrestling them to the ground and even threatening peaceful
Observers.
observers. Now, we need to be concerned that this
Administration will federalize our state guard and even
deploy troops.
deploy troops supposedly to maintain order. But really to
further,
further try to intimidate our communities. Our city needs
to be ready with a coordinated response. If this
Administration tries to further escalate its presence here,
we need to uphold our values as a welcoming community and
denounced the fear tactics that ice is using.
Our city needs a plan.
Our city needs a plan regarding how to handle an R military
deployment on our street.
deployment on our streets. A plan that will help make sure
that all of our residents are safe, we need to document
with these troops do
with these troops. Do were these troops go and what they do
and specifically call out if they violate their Authority
or abuse. Our
or abuse our people, and we need our allies in Congress to
use their oversight authority, to try to reign in their
behavior, this
behavior. This committee can play a vital vital role in
developing these plans.
developing these plans and we hope that you and other
officials at all levels of government.
officials at all levels of government will will work with
us in the community on strategies that will protect all of
us. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Uh, next speaker is Amy Almani, uh,
from Brighton Park neighbor.
from Brighton, Park neighborhood Council.
so,
Good morning. Um, my name is Anni Han.
Good morning. Um my name is Anni Hani uh I live in the 18th
Ward and I'm also a proud immigrant
18th Ward and I'm also a proud immigrant, uh, from Peru.
today, I'm here with
Today I'm here with the Biden Park neighborhood Council
BPNC. Uh, BPNC has been leading lawyer rights workshops and
rapid.
rapid response in the southwest side of Chicago. Uh, but
I'm here today myself as a community, member and organiz.
organizer, because I have seen how much fear the community
has experienced, and the impact it's had.
I am deeply Disturbed at what appears to be CP.
I am deeply Disturbed at what appears to be CPD support for
the the arrest operation that
the, the arrest operation. That ice conducted at the isap
side. This past June, 4th,
Cpd's presence. Setting up perimeters around the site and
apparently communicating with ice looks very much like a
violation to our welcome city ordinance.
The Orden.
The ordinance itself, creates mechanisms for investigating
and seeking.
and seeking accountability for violations. The ordinance.
does not allow people. Harmed does not allow people.
does not allow people. Harmed does not allow people harmed
by these violations to bring legal action.
by these violations to bring legal action themselves and
study the ordinance gives the civilian
study, the ordinance gives the civilian office of police
accountability, Copa the authority to investigate
violations. By individual officers,
All.
All other complaints relating to the welcome city
ordinance.
Ordinance violations. Go to the office of the Inspector
General.
It's now been nearly 4 weeks since the IAP incident has
either agency stepped up to investigate.
The silence is deafening. Someone
The silence is deafening, someone needs to investigate and
seek accountability. The city needs to figure out who that
will be. In the meantime, we support this committee as they
move forward with chair Vasquez proposed.
move forward with chair Vasquez proposed order and uses the
tools. It has available to get the truth about what really
happened that day. Thank you. Thank you.
For.
For uh, the record. I'd like you to reflect that we have uh
all the
other person to take your Lopez uh non-member also here in
attendance. Uh, our next speaker is Sophia Shin with the
Hana Center.
Good morning. My name is Sophia. I'm with the Hana Center.
Good morning. My name is Sophia. I'm with the Hana Center a
nonprofit Korean.
nonprofit, Korean multiman organization.
um, I'm here today to talk more about the
Um, I'm here today to talk more about the isap incident.
The isap incident raises.
The isap incident raises a very serious question. Who are
the people? The
the people the police protecting the Chicago police are
charged with serving and protecting the people of Chicago.
And that means all of the people of Chicago in all
neighborhoods of our city.
neighborhoods of our city, regardless of who you are, or
where you're from,
where you are from, that should include the Chicagoans. Who
reported to the isap location after being told to show up.
just a few days before and under threat that they were,
they would be violating the terms of their release.
they would be violating the terms of their release if they
did not.
Remember that? These are people.
Remember that, these are people who have been living freely
and peacefully in the community.
and peacefully in the community and complying with their
check-in requirements.
many of these people have been wearing heavy and
uncomfortable, electronic monitoring devices that limit
their range of movement.
The people whom.
The people whom cbda should be serving and protecting.
The people whom cbda should be serving and protecting also
include the people who in who showed up.
include the people who in who showed up outside the isap
office when they found out that ice was arresting people.
These people wanted.
these people wanted to Bear witness to Isis, deceitful
tactics to increase their arrest numbers, and to show
support for the people who ice was arresting these people
were exercising, our first amendment rights to peacefully.
assemble and protest and pose no threat to Public Safety.
But instead, we saw Chicago.
But instead we saw Chicago Police blocking people from
moving around the building and in some cases. Apparently
speaking with impossibly coordinating with agents, what we
saw in.
saw in, undocumented leads us to ask what CPD
saw in undocumented leads us to ask what CPD protecting ice
were CPD officers.
were CPD officers guarding ice agents as they were in the
course of ADD.
course of adopting and trying to move people out of the
building. Were they collaborating with ice in these
arrests?
Who are they serving? Who are they protecting?
the people of Chicago deserve a full account of what
happened at the isap site, this past June 4th that must
include a full invest.
Thank you.
Our next speaker is Carson Wong from asian-americans.
Advancing Justice.
Good morning.
Good morning, older people.
Morning. My name is car.
Morning. My name is Carson. I'm a member of asian-americans
advancing justice Chicago.
advancing justice Chicago and I live in uptown on June 4th
I responded. A
I responded a call to a call from okad to support community
members debt.
members. Detained by Ice during a routine check-in, uh, at
the isap office in the South Loop, we were there to
peacefully protest.
peacefully protest show support for our community members
and bear witness to Isis shameful abductions to make sure
that they know that.
that they know that Chicagoans are watching and do not
approve of our neighbors being abducted. We are not there
to block Ice and we are not there to disobey the law but
not long after I arrived.
not long. After I arrived CPD arrived and established a
perimeter cutting off the parking lot.
perimeter, cutting off the parking lot. That connects the
alley in Michigan Avenue.
CB.
CBD officers, refused to give any information including to
uh including whose call. They were responding to or
stand down ignoring the demands of our community members.
stand down ignoring the demands of our community members, a
legal Observer. And even 3 sitting older people I saw CPD
officers chatting with an Ace Ice agent.
officers chatting with an Ace Ice agent as he walked from
1, entrance of the building to the other with CPD.
1, entrance of the building, to the other with CPD officers
escorting him, uh, and clearing away for him. While those
same officers blocked, protesters from moving.
same officers blocked protesters, from moving between
entrances, in other words, CPD officers,
entrances, in other words, CPD officers made sure to
protect ice agents and allow them to abduct Chicago.
protect ice agents and allow them to abduct Chicagoans in
peace and Tranquility, while leaving us to be brutalized
Ice, they were not serving and protecting Chicago.
Ice, they were not serving and protecting Chicagoans when
they allowed ice to block 23rd Street and the public
Alleyway marched down the street and pushed sitting old.
people onto the ground. We are not protected when ice drove
a van at a high speed through the alleyway and into
protesters hitting 2, people know, C,
protesters hitting 2, people know, CPD escorted.
me when that van veered towards me and I narrowly avoided it
by jumping out of the way in the face of his flagrant
violation of the welcoming city ordinance. Where is the
accountability to enforce it? This committee and the entire
Council must approve Alderman Vasquez.
Council must approve Alderman, vasquez's order and city
leaders as a whole must take further.
leaders as a whole must take further steps to hold CPD
accountable.
accountable and protect all of our communities. Thank you.
Our next speaker is Sarah Wang.
Our next speaker is Sarah Wong from the pre-tax Center.
Hi. Thanks for the opportunity to speak. My name is Sarah,
sweat. Hang, and I'm the adult education and training
manager, um, at the point.
manager. Um, at the PTO Center in Chinatown, uh, 1 of the
largest nonprofit.
largest nonprofit English language programs in the state of
Illinois. Um, I'm here today representing our nearly a
thousand students that we serve every year. Um, I'm here
today to bring an issue that will directly impact this
population, the potential closure of many adult literacy
programs. Um, we know that literate adults benefit all of
American SOC,
American society,
Uh, adult literacy in Illinois is funded.
Uh, adult literacy in Illinois, is funded by 2 main sources.
The federal government through WEA and the secretary
The federal government through WEA and the Secretary of
State's office, um, recently, the Trump Administration,
State's office. Um, recently, the Trump Administration has
proposed a federal budget that completely eliminates
funding for adult education. Claiming that with its impro.
improvements to K to 12 schools, we won't need to fund.
improvements to K to 12 schools, we won't need to fund
adult education anymore, this illogical non
adult education anymore. This illogical non secular
reasoning does not represent the main reasons. Our students
enroll in our adult education program, many have degrees in
skills gained from their home country as immigrants. Um,
their need to improve. English is not related to the status
of K to 12 education in America, Trump's prop.
of K to 12 education in America, Trump's proposal States,
the quote of abysmal,
the quote of abysmal stats, that only 43% of students make
a measurable skill gain, what it doesn't look at is who
counts as a student. Anyone who attends 12 hours of
instruction,
instruction. Um, how would your Chinese be if I only
offered you, 12 hours of instruction. Would you improve?
enough to make love love. Uh, measurable skill gain.
enough to make? Love love, uh, measurable skill gain. Um,
the vast majority of our students that do enroll in our
program.
enroll in our program and participate,
Um, and have at least 60 hours.
Um, and have at least 60 hours of instruction show,
tremendous learning gains.
So, I'm here today to build awareness of this issue with
the hopes.
hopes of finding alternative Funding Solutions for the
future of adult education in Chicago. Um, I'm asking for
this committee to join the efforts to support adult
education.
education, um, by turning over every stone to find a new
funding.
funding stream, that does not depend on the federal
government. Thank you for taking time.
government. Thank you for taking time to listen to me
today. Thank you very much.
Our next speaker is Taino, Rodriguez from the resurrection.
project.
Good morning. My name is Dora Rodriguez and I'm with the
resurrection project.
resurrection project on June 4th at the isap location in
the south
the South Loop ice forcefully separated at least 20 people.
from the families. We saw families including children.
from the families, we saw families, including children,
we're seeing in tears and without hope as they witnessed,
their mothers and fathers being abducted, we were deeply.
their mothers and fathers being abducted. We were deeply.
Appalled to see that Chicago Police provided material.
assistance to ice making this Massey deportation.
assistance to ice making this Massey and abductions
possible by blocking traffic and Prov.
possible by blocking traffic and providing initial crowd
control.
Superintendent.
Superintendents Natalie claims? This was about Public
Safety. However, the only people Chicago Police,
Safety. However, the only people Chicago Police protected
with federal agents tearing our community members away from
the people who love and depend on them.
This is a violation of the welcoming City.
This is a violation of the welcoming city ordinance and the
Illinois. Trust act that the grades public.
Illinois. Trust act that the grades public trust in law
enforcement.
It can.
It cannot continue to be denied that Chicago Police
committed.
committed these illegal violations. We all saw it.
committed these illegal violations. We all saw it where?
With our very own eyes, it was what the media reported.
with our very own eyes, it was what the media reported. And
there's countless video footage that confirms these illegal
actions.
okay, we believe
Okay, we believe that CPD and other City agencies must
comply.
comply with the welcoming city ordinance and must be held
accountable. If they do not comply, we make the following
demands.
demands conduct a full investigation of welcoming city
ordinance.
Ordinance violations committed by CPD on June.
Ordinance violations committed by CPD on June 4th during
the isap ice abductions require welcoming city, ordinance
compliance training for CPD and other relevant
stakeholders. The
stakeholders. Develop a clear plan of the fence of action
should ice.
Should ice attempt the militant and dangerous tax tactics
in Chicago. That are we are witnessing in. Los Angeles
refused to turn over to the federal government records from
our City's police department and any information from our
city key,
city key Munn, Municipal ID program, a crucial,
city key Munn, Municipal ID program, a crucial step toward
accountability is to approve. The order of proposed by
chairman, Basquez directing the CPD.
chairman, Basquez directing the CPD and other City
agencies, to share their records.
to share their records of the June 4th incident with this
committee. Thank you.
I'd like to record a show that we have.
I'd like to record a show that we have other person fees
Cardona here, uh for quorum.
Cardona here, uh, for Quorum uh, as well as non-member uh,
automobile water.
Alderman Walter brunette. Uh, next speaker is Mark,
coner from the first Immanuel, Lutheran Church.
I'm here today because my faith community is under attack by
the federal government. Uh, we are under attack because we
are showing the love and compassion of our Lord and Savior
Jesus.
By assisting our immigrant.
By assisting our immigrant Neighbors.
We collect and distribute food.
We collect and distribute food, clothing, household items,
we host.
We host, conversational English classes. But these actions
have made us targets of the Trump Administration.
We've all seen The Masks armed.
We've all seen The Masks armed men, assaulting and
kidnapping people off of our streets. They are operating
without judicial warrants
the people at our church.
The people at our church are terrified that this violence
could be used against.
could be used against us. Many have stopped coming.
and,
And the rest of us has had have had to take precautions.
And the rest of us has had have had to take precautions to
protect ourselves. We urge all of you.
To take action.
against these federal agents that are
Against these federal agents that are harming our
community. They are disturbing.
community. They are disturbing the peace, the federal right
to enforce immigration law does not give them the right to
to enforce immigration. Law does not give them the right to
terrorize the streets churches.
terrorize the streets churches schools and businesses of
Chicago.
These.
these federal agents should be removed from our
These federal agents should be removed from our streets.
The.
The people of Chicago and our city administr.
The people of Chicago and our city Administration have the
right to demand this and defend.
right to demand this and defend these actions in court.
Unfortunately.
Unfortunately, we have seen members of the Chicago Police.
Unfortunately, we have seen members of the Chicago police
at the scene of many federal.
at the scene of many federal immigration operations, just
this weekend. They were photographed with federal agents at
the Belmont. L station, intimidating. People headed to the
the Belmont. L, station, intimidating. People headed to the
pride parade.
We are not impressed.
We are not impressed by the weak excuses of CPD.
the that they are merely observing resp
The that they are merely observing responding to calls or
protecting the public order.
protecting the public order, we demand that the Chicago
Police Department.
Police Department defend and protect the rights of the
Chicago.
Res, thank you very much.
Our next.
Our next speaker is Cecilia Mendoza with the national
immigrant Justice.
immigrant Justice Center.
Good morning. My name is Cecilia Mendoza and I'm the
associate director of government relations at the national
immigrant just
immigrant Justice Center.
My organization has been litigating.
My organization has been litigating for years Isis, unlawful
warrantless arrest.
unlawful warrantless arrests of Chicagoans and other
immigrants under the
under the guise of immigration enforcement in
under the guise of immigration enforcement, in our Casio
Neva case, co-led with the ACLU of Illinois, and with
organized communities against deportation and the Illinois.
organized communities against deportation and the Illinois
Coalition for immigrant Refugee Rights, we have documented
dozens of violations of The Binding settlement agreement as
ice has targeted. Our City's residents to punish
ice has targeted, our City's residents to punish us and our
leadership for choosing to protect all our communities and
adopting our welcoming city ordinance.
It took all of us and it still takes all of us, including
our city leaders and agencies to keep
our city leaders, and agencies to keep protecting our
communities against the attacks, we face.
communities against the attacks. We face today.
Trump's authoritarian actions are escalating, ripping apart
families and traumatizing.
apart, families, and traumatizing our communities. Every
day we are fighting back being
fighting back being more vocal and active in opposing the
administration.
administration's attacks on due process.
Prot.
protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful here in Chicago,
and there is no basis for any escalation of law
enforcement.
and there is no basis for any escalation of law enforcement
presence especially not the militarized.
presence especially not the militarized Special Response
Team. This Administration has threatened to send as
described in news reports.
As we?
As we continue to face the Trump, administration's
escalating attack.
escalating attacks on our communities. We urge our city
agencies and officers to prioritize the safety and
well-being of Chicago.
well-being of Chicagoans abide by our welcoming policies
and not FAQ.
and not facilitate or assist in any manner, ice or the
Trump.
And not facilitate or assist in any manner ice or the Trump
Administration in their attacks of our city.
Thank you to the committee for continuing to convene these
necessary.
necessary conversations, where where where we reaffirm our
commit.
commitment to protect all Chicagoans. Thank you.
Our next speaker.
Is.
Is Inc in arise of in Progreso Latino.
Yeah.
Hello. Good morning. My name is Sina rice. I'm from in. I'm
here today because the city of Chicago is under attack from
our own Federal
our own federal government. I started getting a Chicago and
the surrounding suburbs for intense immigration rates even
before the new Administration took office,
Federal.
Federal prosecutors are suing us.
to try to undo the welcoming city ordinance that make us
all of our community safer.
Now, there's Administration.
now there's Administration Chicago as a likely targeted for
the treatment. They gave to Los Angeles, which involves
the treatment. They gave to Los Angeles which involves oh
sorry sweeps of day labor cities.
sorry sweeps of day, labor cities, car washes immigrant
business districts and other immigrant heavy.
business districts and other immigrant heavy areas.
we also saw in La the Federal,
we also saw in La, the federal government taking over the
state guard, with the court approval, and
state guard with the court approval, and sending the
Marines.
what we want to do now is
What we want to do now is, is Chicago ready?
Cpd's. Presence is
Cpd's presence. As the isap Sai has shaken our confidence
in.
in our Pol. And no. Sorry in our, uh, police
in our Pol, and no. Sorry in our, uh, police and in the
city.
We need to stand.
we need to stand United against ice deception brutality and
and overreach.
We need to be assured that our city.
we need to be assured that our city with its long history
of welcoming people from our parts of this country and
other countries. And with our strong welcoming city
ordinance will stand with and help protect our communities
from the threats. We now face
And we support.
and we support further investigations by the city and the
state to get the to the bottom of this incident and to hold
the responsible people.
the responsible people accountable for any legal
violations, thank you.
Thank you.
Our.
Our next speaker is Rama Simone tanksley from communities
United.
States.
My name is RM.
My name is Amaya. Sumo I live in Austin, I'm with
communities United. Um, my organization does work in the
north and west side of Chicago. I'm here today because is
north and west side of Chicago. I'm here today because Isis
use in many ways to try to flag people for deportation.
use in many ways to try to flag people for deportation
disturbingly. Some of these tactics involve getting our
personal information ice has already used
personal information, ice has already used our state,
Freedom Act,
Of information to get records from CP.
Of information to get records from CPD. Ice has also tried
to subpoena our city, clerk to get that regarding the
people who wanted to get a city.
people who wanted to get a city key ID.
These incident.
These incidents caused us to wonder is the information we
provide.
provide to the city safe from Ice people of Chicago.
Deserve the reassurance that their data is protected.
Especially from agencies like ice.
Especially from agencies like ice that seek to weaponize
this information against us and our community.
We help design the city Key Program to keep any data and
documentation to a minimum.
documentation to a minimum precisely so that no 1 can gain
this information.
While the online key city is a.
While the online key city is a portable excuse me. My
online City provide.
online City, provide many opportunities to get a city ID.
It.
It also um, triggers State records laws that.
It also um, triggers State records laws, that requires that
a retention. We are pleased to hear that the clerk refused
to to comply with the Federal.
to to comply with the federal for subpoena. And we hope
that the clerk will resist any further. Pre pressure to
obtain our records
we also urge that the city with um, review with
We also urge that the city with um review with applications
and other avenues to collect.
and other avenues to collect that um, personal data. And we
also see with the city key that, the less information that
the city Gathers,
the last opportunity that the other
The last opportunity that the other agencies will have to
request and use.
request and use are against our communities.
So, thank you.
So thank you. Thank you.
Our final speaker is Fred Sao from the Illinois.
Our final speaker is Fred Sao from the Illinois Coalition
for immigrant and Refugee Rights.
Good morning.
All right.
All right, let me do that again. Good morning. Good
morning. Okay.
My name is Fred S. I'm the senior policy.
My name is Fred S. I'm the senior policy council with the
Illinois Coalition for immigrants and refugee.
Illinois Coalition for immigrants and Refugee Rights. I c
r. R r
I,
I c r. R played a strong leadership role in developing and
advocating for the welcoming city ordinance restricting.
City engagement in Immigration enforcement. We were
therefore appalled to see what happened this past.
therefore appalled to see what happened. This past June 4th
at the isap location in the South Loop. I see our beliefs,
that CPD.
that CPD and other other City agencies need to comply with
the welcoming city ordinance and need to be held.
accountable. If they do not comply,
Specifically, we make the following 5 demand.
First conduct a full investig.
First conduct a full investigation of any violations of the
welcoming.
welcoming city ordinance committed by the Chicago Police
Department.
Department on June 4th during the isap.
Department on June 4th during the isap is abductions.
Second.
Second require welcoming city ordinance compliance
training.
training for CPD officers and other relevant.
training for CPD officers and other relevant stakeholders.
Third. Use every tool and creative solution at the city's
disposal.
disposal to protect Chicago residents from.
disposal to protect Chicago residents from Ice kidnappings.
Fourth.
Fourth develop a clear plan of defensive action.
Fourth, develop a clear plan of defensive action. Should
ice attempt the dangerous escalation.
attempt the dangerous escalation of tactics in Chicago that
we've been witnessing.
we've been witnessing in Los Angeles.
And fifth.
And fifth protect all information from our city.
and fifth protect all information from our city key
Municipal ID program, which Homeland Security clearly wants
to use.
to use to identify people for immigration enforcement.
An important step toward accountability.
An important step toward accountability will be approving.
The ordinance proposed by chair Vasquez or order 2.
The ordinance proposed by chair Vasquez or order 2 order
202500000017810.
Directing the police and other City agencies.
directing the police and other City agencies to share their
records of the June 4th incident with this committee. Thank
you.
Thank you.
Everyone.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you to all of our
speakers today. Um, I'd like to note.
speakers today. Um, I'd like to note alderwoman Haden is,
uh present, uh, for
uh, present, uh, for Quorum today. Uh, thank you, uh,
uh, present, uh, for Quorum today. Uh, thank you. Uh, I
would like to note that this committee received 2 written
public uh,
public, uh, comments that you'll find included in your
packet. Uh there being no more speakers the public comment
period.
comment period is concluded.
Uh, the first item.
uh, the first item on the agenda before our committee is to
approve the
approve, the March 2025 rule, 45 report can
approve, the March 2025 rule. 45 report. Can I have a
motion to approve
So moved by.
so moved by uh, Allure uh, alderman cassada
so moved by uh Allure, uh, Alderman cassada uh hearing no
objection so ordered
the second item is,
The second item is o r 20225 Dash.
the second item is o r 20225 Dash 0000178 which
The second item is o r 20225 Dash 0000178 which is an order
I filed to provide City Council.
order. I filed to provide city council, the facts of as
well as any procedural facts of in progress and completed
internal investigations around an instance, of a potential
welcoming city ordinance.
welcoming city. Ordinance violation. Votes may be taken,
uh, we made some minor correction.
In a substitute to reflect the correct address as it was
marked as.
marked as 2200, North Michigan Avenue, as opposed to South
for clarification.
Uh,
I'll respect the Southside. I just want to get that right.
All right. Uh,
All right. Uh uh these are in your package, label,
substitute order. May I first have a motion to accept the
substitute order for consideration. So moved by Alder
person Fuentes.
Hearing no objection. So ordered. And we now have the
substitute before.
substitute before us.
Uh yes uh Alderman Tarot.
oh, and
oh and I I appreciate you speaking with me earlier with
regard to my point of order. Um, I I do want to just uh
place as a matter of record. Um, that any matters regarding
the Chicago Police Department.
the Chicago. Police Department should be before the
committee on police.
committee on police and fire, um, or, or within a
committee on police and fire, um, or or within a joint
committee, um, of immigration and the and
committee, um, of immigration and the, and the committee on
police and fire. So, um, as a matter of record,
police and fire. So um, as a matter of record, um, I think
this matter should have been either before joint committee
or either committee on police and fire. Thank you, thank
you very much for. I also appreciate the conversation.
had. And I think, uh, for such matters going forward,
had and I think uh, for such matters going forward, we'll
definitely reach out proactively so that we can have uh,
the
more fulsome conversation so thank you. Appreciate it Mr.
Chair.
all right, um,
so,
In.
in 1985, uh, Hera Washington.
In 1985, uh, Hera Washington through executive order,
established Chicago's sanctuary.
established Chicago's Sanctuary City status.
Uh, 40 years later.
we are still uh, at the
We are still, uh, at the position where a sanctuary status
and welcoming city ordinance is needed.
and welcoming city ordinances needed. Uh, and if anything
we are seeing now,
we are seeing now more than ever that ordinance being
tested, um,
I will say it is a bit shameful that.
I will say it is a bit shameful that 40 years later. We
still need to do this. Uh,
still need to do this, uh, given the history and repetitive
nature of this.
nature of this argument in our country. Um, but as
nature of this argument in our country. Um but as it is
clear uh it is necessary even more. So now, uh, as we've
seen the Trump Administration is desperate
seen, the Trump Administration is desperate to conduct a
mass deportation regardless of the human.
mass deportation regardless of the human cost and they are
becoming more and more Reckless. Uh we are seeing not just
undocumented. Uh, neighbors we are seeing citizens, we are
seeing people.
seeing people being separated from their families. Uh,
being kidnapped, for lack of a better term.
being kidnapped, for lack of a better term detained with no
information as to whether they're going.
information as to whether they're going, um, on June 4th
Chicago.
Chicago and, uh, who are abiding by the law and
checking in. We're lured to the immigration office at 2245,
South Michigan under false pretenses.
South Michigan under false pretenses believing. They were
going to a routine check, they were instead
going to a routine check. They were instead immediately,
detained denied their right to speak with their attorneys
and rip from their families.
Despite their promises.
despite their promises ice isn't going after those with
criminal histories, they're going after whoever is easiest
to find, uh, here.
to find. Uh, here are some of the people who were taken
from our communities on June, 4th,
from our communities on June, 4th a youth Minister and
mother of 3 children, who
of 3 children who has been a dedicated and law-abiding,
Community me member for 10.
law-abiding Community me member for 10 years. Uh a single
mother and CPS parent with 3, young children who came here
in 2014.
in 2014 Escape violence and has now been deported back to
that violence along.
that violence along with their children, uh, a single
mother.
mother of 6 year old uh Gabriella Pineda.
of 6 year old uh Gabriella Pineda, who has now been left
without a guardian or legal path.
without a guardian or legal path back to reunite with her
mother in Honduras.
These.
These attacks are not going to stop so we have to make
sure.
sure our protections and our Municipal Code holds firm.
We need to understand clearly what the protocols are.
We need to understand clearly what the protocols are for
CPD response to ice activity and requests for support.
CPD response, to ice activity and requests for support uh
because they uh, clearly will continue
because they uh clearly will continue uh, on June 4th, the
Chicago Police Department.
Chicago. Police Department was called to the isap office
and officers.
and officers were uh, witnessed blocking off streets.
Appearing to stand guard for ice vehicles, uh, and
accompanying ice AG.
accompanying ice agents in and out of the building, uh, on
June 17th.
June 17th, uh, they were also called to remove
Congressional Representatives who are exercising their
constitutional right to conduct oversight on
constitutional, right to conduct oversight on a government
facility. Uh, it's been a month.
facility. Uh, it's been a month since the June 4th
incident. Uh, and uh, the city has
incident. Uh and uh the city has yet to, uh, conduct an
independent investigation,
independent investigation as to what exactly went on. Uh,
we will recognize that CPD did have their own internal
investigation. Uh, however,
And matters like this. I think it is important.
And matters like this. I think it is important to have
independent investigation, uh, without protocol.
independent investigation uh, without protocols. And
without accountability, um, we are not going to know where
the officers did the right.
the officers did the right or wrong thing. Uh, what we also
don't know, uh, because we've never had this kind of
precedent set before.
precedent set before is what proper protocols, look like,
when this kind of incident occurs, uh, as part of our work
in preparing,
in preparing for this hearing, we found out that
in preparing, for this hearing, we found out that an
independent investigation had not occurred. Um, the
question I'm left asking is if we had not done the prep to
get to this hearing would we have ever
get to this hearing, would we have ever found out that an
independent investigation didn't happen? Um,
I think we should move Beyond.
I think we should move Beyond finger, pointing and blaming
in a situation where we've never actually had occur before.
And I think by having these hearings by establishing the
protocol, we will continue to improve and set the
accountability necessary. So people don't have to question.
What did or didn't happen? That is why it is important.
What did or didn't happen? That is why it is important, uh,
because we did not have an investigation.
because we did not have an investigation uh occurring
independent. When, as of this time, uh, I did move forward
with an order that would require the communications and
information.
information related to June 4th as well as other
Communications with the Department.
Communications with the Department of Homeland Security, so
that we can better identify what information may or may not
be shared.
be shared how that is reported back to the city and how we
can actually hold that.
can actually hold that accountable. Uh, what happened on
June 4th I believe is a learning opportunity for us to
examine CPD.
examine CPD, protocols and make sure that
we are upholding our City's laws and values as we continue
to weather these attacks from Ice and from president Trump.
I'll begin our presentation.
I'll begin our presentation slides on the order, uh, and
then pass it on to those who
pass it on to those who have joined us today to provide
statements or any present.
statements or any presentations. They have
all right, so as stated uh, we had the
all right, so as stated, uh, we had the ordinance, uh, and
the subject, uh, uh, as well as subject matter hearing
today, uh, we'll focus right now on
today. Uh, we'll focus right now on the order, uh, part and
then we'll talk.
And then we'll talk later on in the next agenda, item about
the work.
the work that the committee has been doing in the last
quarter as well. Um, so we will be uh, talking to
quarter as well. Um, so we will be, uh, talking to, uh,
different departments, uh, CPD.
different departments. Uh, CPD oemc, the mayor's office,
the office of Inspector.
the office of Inspector General and Coppa uh, to kind of
get all the different, uh, perspectives on what occurred
that day.
that day, uh, and get an understanding of protocol, so that
members can ask questions that they have
Uh, so stated on June 4th uh ice agents conducted.
Uh, so stated on June 4th uh ice agents conducted, a mass
detention at the immigration office at 2245 South Michigan.
Michigan. Uh immigrants were lured under false pretenses
Uh immigrants were lured under false pretenses believing
they are there for a routine check-in so they were abiding
the law and were detained and separated from their
attorneys.
attorneys and families uh community members and elected
offic.
officials who peacefully protested. These unlawful debt
detentions were met with violence from masked agents. These
were not identified at all.
were not identified at all masks with rifles, um,
other people might turn them a secret police.
Other people might turn them a secret police, that is what
we saw her uh, those on.
we saw her uh those on the scene also witness CPD officers
who were called to the scene.
officers who were called to the scene blocking off streets,
appearing to stand guard for ice vehicles and
streets. Appearing to stand guard for ice vehicles and
accompanying ice agents in and out of the building.
Uh, the welcoming city ordinance to be clear prohibited CPD
from provid.
from providing on-site support to assist in civil
immigration. For
immigration enforcement operations, including setting up
traffic parameters. That is explicit in the municipal code.
Um, after the incident, we introduced the order, um, and as
of today, there's been no independent investigation of the
events on June.
events on June 4th,
Uh, so what's included?
Uh, so what's included in the order and members have this
in front of them? Uh,
in front of them, uh, is requiring any communication
related to CP?
related to CPD Presence? At this location on June 4th.
communication related to requests from the US Department of
Homeland Security. Especially in light of reports that the
department of
Department of Homeland Security, had foia'd CPD, uh, to get
information.
information and received information in the form of arrest
record.
records, that included.
Personal information, pictures.
Personal information, pictures and country of origin as well
as address. Um, we also requiring a list of notifications
requesting assistance with
requesting assistance, with enforcement, of federal, civil
immigration, law on June 4th,
immigration, law, on June 4th. So any calls that were made
for support by De Department of Homeland, Security, or any
federal agents, and
federal agents and information on immigration detainers,
administrative.
Administrative warrants received by CPD related to
enforcement of civil immigration. Law for June 4th, uh, as
well.
Uh, this is for all those in the public uh, the actual
draft of the order.
of the order with the details on it.
For public records.
Uh, we also received communication subsequent to that on
June 16th from coupa.
June 16th from coupa uh, and they will present uh, to state
kind of what the emailed us. I'll give you a synopsis,
they'll be able to speak through it. Uh, they believed, uh,
based on their reading of the municipal code that it was
not their purview to conducting.
not their purview to conducting investigation at which
point they um,
point they um uh uh,
Passed it to the office.
Passed it to the office of the Inspector General uh, in
talking to the office Inspector General.
talking to the office Inspector General as an inspector.
General report, uh, in reading the municipal code, the
office did not believe it was under their purview and so,
ultimately no investigation at this time.
ultimately no investigation at this time has occurred. Uh,
and looking at the actual Municipal Code uh, with the
language says and I'll highlight
language says, and I'll highlight up their, uh, I'll read
it. So,
it. So you guys can get a better read on it a person
alleging
a violation of this chapter. Meaning the welcome city
ordinance.
ordinance, against a member of the Chicago Police
Department, Show forward a
Department Show. Forward a complaint to the
Civilian office of police accountability.
Civilian office of police accountability Coppa or any
successor independent police review AG.
successor independent police review agency. All other
complaints shall be forwarded to the office of the in
Inspector General.
uh, so in in
uh so in in our reading of it, if it's related to a
uh, so in, in our reading of it, if it's related to a
Chicago Police Department, Officer or member, it would go
under copas purview, um, any other ones. So for example,
the office of emergency,
the office of emergency management Communications oemc
would fall under the preview of the office of Inspector
General.
Um, we also want to share, uh, because this is something.
Um, we also want to share uh, because this is something
else that we want to 1. Make sure members know of which is
else that we want to 1. Make sure members know of, which is
a concern as well that uh, came up.
a concern as well that uh, came up so part of the welcome
city, ordinance requires reporting.
city, ordinance requires reporting, there is a website
portal that gives a quarterly report.
portal, that gives a quarterly report of communications
between, uh, Chicago Police Department.
between uh Chicago Police Department and Ice. Uh, what
you're seeing uh,
you're seeing uh to your right is the extent of the
information.
information we get and that the public gets related to
those communic.
those Communications. There are no details. There are no
um,
There's no.
There's no pertinent evidence. There's nothing explaining
it, not a sinop.
it. Not a synopsis. We get a date. We get a number.
it. Not a synopsis, we get a date, we get a number and
whether it's transferred. Yes, or no. That is the extent.
whether it's transferred. Yes or no. That is the extent the
full extent of what we get related to any communic.
full extent of what we get related to any Communications.
So we really have no Insight or oversight as to what's
happening. Uh, we also have to get them quarterly, we have
not received a quarterly report.
not received a quarterly report for q1 of this year or Q2.
Q2 recognizing where, uh, just starting July. It's
Absolutely fair to be able to get that information. Uh, you
know, sometime after the quarter, but we have not received
information for uh q1 either. And that is been plenty of
time to be able to get that reporting.
um, so uh, to kind of give
um, so, uh, to kind of give a breakdown of the different
presentations, you will hear, uh,
presentations, you will hear uh, CPD and office of
emergency.
emergency management. Communication will provide facts and
timestamps of communic.
timestamps of communications and dispatch process and
internal analysis of the June 4th in.
analysis of the June 4th incident. Um, including
analysis of the June 4th incident. Um including a list of
requests for assistance calls from the public
federal agents or internally to respond internal
federal agents or internally to respond, internal officer
calls, uh, to assist, uh, of assists from police officers
and response details.
and response details on officers arrival to location
interaction with Federal officials.
interaction with Federal officials set up of traffic
perimeter interaction with Alders, uh, and mayor's office
and decisions, made that day. Uh,
and decisions. Made that day, uh officer withdraw, an
incident report back, and internal investigation,
incident report back, and internal investigation process
and outcomes. Uh, CPD,
outcomes. Uh, CPD oemc and mayor's office will present on
internal training on the welcoming city ordinance. Uh CPD
and OMC will present on security efforts in the event of
National Guard mobilization.
National Guard, mobilization and oig and Cobalt will
present on welcoming.
present on welcoming city ordinance, investigative
Authority, uh, including the intersection.
Authority, uh, including the intersections of the oig.
Copa work and the reporting quarterly works.
Copa work and the reporting quarterly Works in audit
investigations.
Uh, we will now
uh, we will now go to
Uh, the presentations, uh, related by the different.
uh, the presentations, uh, related by the different
departments.
Uh, we anticipate our Alders wanting to ask.
uh,
We?
we anticipate Alders have any questions. We asked you all
to stick with.
to stick within certain time limits. Uh, please introduce
yourself.
yourself for those reporting out with full names titles and
Department. I'll now request CPD and oemc to provide facts.
and timestamps of the communications and dispatch process.
and timestamps of the communications and dispatch process,
and subsequent internal analysis of this incident. Uh, you
have 15 minutes and if you'd like, I can
Um, do it or if you would like as well.
Good morning, chairman Vasquez.
Good morning, chairman Vasquez and vice chair, Taylor and
the members of the community.
the members of the community, uh, committee on the
immigration for Refugee Rights, my name is
immigration for Refugee Rights. My name is Dr. Sonia
Washington. And I am the deputy director of 911 operations.
Thank you for the opportunity.
Thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today
regarding the role of 911.
As it relates to civil immigration law.
As it relates to civil immigration law enforcement, the
role of 911 is straightforward.
We intake the call and ensure that a CPD be.
We intake the call and ensure that a CPD be car and a
field. Supervisor are dispatched to
field. Supervisor our dispatch to assess the situation and
make a determination.
make a determination as to the nature of the call based on
cpd's assessment. 911 will make any needed notifications.
On June 4th 2025.
On June 4th, 2025 911 received 3 calls for the location of
the 22.
the 2200 Block of South Michigan Avenue,
The first.
The first call was received at 1406 hours from.
the first call was received at 1406 hours, from a
contractor, ice worker, who reported that there was a large
ice worker who reported that there was a large crowd of
about 20 to 30 protesters on private property.
The second call was received at about.
The second call was received at about 1411 hours from cpic.
cpic, requesting assistance, for federal agents, who are
being surrounded by protest.
being surrounded by protesters.
And the third call was received at 14.
and the third call was received at 1415 hours from home,
land security requesting to be car assistance for crowd
control.
911, dispatch appropriate, resources and follow policy for
these events. Based on the information that was provided, I
am happy to answer any questions regarding the role of 911.
in this matter. Thank you.
Perfectly fine.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Good morning. Chairman
just you just give us the
Just you just give us the time for the military time. Can
you just give us the
oh,
Oh thank you. Thank you for that. Yes, ma'am. And we're
going to go through a presentation after this as well, but
the first call was at 206 pm
and the second call was at 2:11 p.m.
And the third call was at 2:15 p.m.
yes, sir.
yes, ma'am.
Good morning. Thank you chair. Thank you, committ.
Good morning. Thank you chair. Thank you committee for
inviting us to this morning. Um, I would like to begin. I
just want to begin with maybe very
just want to begin with, maybe very clear that the Chicago
Police Department abides by the walk. I'm sorry, I didn't
introduce myself, did I?
Good morning. I am director Glenn Brooks which is Cargo.
Good morning. I am director. Glenn Brooks with the Chicago
Police Department. I am off over the office of community,
please
policing, uh, and I would like to begin by being very
clear.
That the Chicago Police Department.
That the Chicago Police Department abides, by the Walgreens
city ordinance and does not.
city, ordinance and does not assist Federal authorities
with civil immigration.
with civil immigration enforcement.
when the Chicago Police Department,
when the Chicago Police Department responded to the 2200
Block of South Michigan,
Block of South Michigan Avenue on June 4th, we were
responding.
responding to 2 calls to assist the police.
The emergency response was a result of
the emergency response was a result of these calls not a
result of the
unknown immigration.
Unknown immigration enforcement action being taken at that
location.
location, by federal authorities.
When?
when officers arrived on scene, they had no knowledge that
there was an immigration enforcement occurring.
Responding officers and members of CPD command.
Responding officers and members of CPD Command Staff spoke
with individuals inside the building.
with individuals inside the building and to members of the
large crowd G.
large crowd gathered outside to ensure there was not a
public safety emergency that required police action.
Given that the large crowd gathered outside.
Given that the large crowd gathered outside was spilling
into a very busy.
into a very busy arterial Street, CPD remained on scene to
ensure the safety of everyone.
ensure the safety of everyone in the area. Including those
who are outside the building exercising, their First
Amendment right?
There were buses and cars traveling down.
There were buses and cars traveling down the street. And
cpd's responsibility was to prevent an accident from
happening.
Again, at no point, did CPD assist in immigration.
enforcement. No arrests were made by CPD
We remained on scene until the crowd.
We remained on scene until the crowd dispersed without
incident.
Just as we've been doing.
just as we've been doing, we will continue to operate in
accordance with the welcoming City.
Ordinance. And
Ordinance and our CPD policy on responding to incidents.
involving citizen status.
It is important to.
It is important to note that immigration enforcement by
federal authorities May
federal authorities, may be incurring simultaneously when a
criminal enforcement.
criminal enforcement action by CBDs taking,
This.
This does not mean we are participating in the immigration.
enforcement. As always, we will.
enforcement. As always, we will enforce the laws, when a
criminal action is occurring.
criminal action is occurring regardless of anyone's citizen
status. Thank you very much and we're prepared from
status. Thank you very much and we're prepared on your end.
Thank you.
Thank you very much. Um, before we, uh, get to question. I
like to look basically talk about 3 buckets. So I know
right now we've got the time stamps and Communications. Uh,
so next wanted to get an understanding of what the training
looks like for oemc.
looks like for oemc and CPD. Obviously, this is being
looks like for oemc and CPD. Obviously this is being
somewhat of an unprecedented instance before that kind of
to get a um
get a handle on what training.
Get a handle on what training has been. And if there were
any, uh, learnings
any uh, learnings or changes to those trainings, based on
what occurred that day,
what occurred that day. Okay, so Dr. Washington, yes. So
let's go through the slides that we have here for oemc, if
you can, okay?
you can. Okay, you want. Would you like to? I'll just let
you know man, okay?
all right, so when it comes down to the Sim civil,
immigration, um, law enforcement Pollock,
immigration, um law enforcement policy at oemc, we make
sure that it is known that the US Customs and, uh, the US
immigration Customs Enforcement has jurisdiction over
immigr.
immigration law. It is not the state or local police.
departments who have jurisdiction.
No.
No City agency will assist with us, uh, customs and
Homeland Security.
Homeland, Security investigations or border uh protection
concerns.
concerns regarding the Civil immigration and immigration
enforcement.
again, stated oemc, we do
Again stated oemc, we do intake calls for assistance.
Um, from from AG.
Um, from from agencies who have jurisdiction over s civil
immigration.
immigration, however, CPD feels supervisors will
immigration, however, CPD feels supervisors, will advise
our dispatchers whether or not to deploy additional res.
dispatchers whether or not to deploy additional resources
based off of what they see when they get on the scene next.
slide.
So talking about the Pollock,
So, talking about the policy here uh, at oemc.
Every.
Every call that comes until the 911 Center is taken by a
call taker.
call taker who uh who obtains pertinent information.
call taker who uh who obtains pertinent information and
force the information over to the dispatchers. And
force, the information over to the dispatchers and the
dispatchers disseminated to the officers and the field
supervisors.
once approved by the
Once approved by the field supervisors for assist.
Then a dispatchers.
then a dispatchers are going to uh, deploy those resources
and we're going to um have timestamps in our CAD that says
that the responding officers are going that particular
times and locations and
times and locations. And then a supervisor at OMC is also
notified so that they're aware of the situation as well.
And we have a front desk.
And we have a front desk there, that makes notifications
for appropriate, uh, notifications regarding any, any call
there. But specifically, for
there. But specifically for uh, ice
if the call is,
if the call is not verified by CPD Phil officer, we will
just go ahead and dispatch if need be based on CP, uh, OEM
just go ahead and dispatch if need be based on CP, uh, oemc
policy.
when we talk about the training training,
when we talk about the training training for, um, for the
Civil immigration, law enforcement,
Civil immigration, law enforcement was conducted in
quarter, 1 at oemc and all oemc staff were refreshed on the
Civil immigration law enforcement.
the Civil immigration law, enforcement policy next slide,
so,
So we're going to go over the time stamps again, just 1
more time, just in case.
more time, just in case any questions were had, the first
call that we had.
call that we had was at 206 p.m. or 1406 hours.
call that we had was at 206 p.m. or 1406 hours and that was
for the disturbance of the large Gathering and that
was for the disturbance of the large Gathering. And that
call came from a contractor ice worker, who called in
came from a contractor ice worker, who called in about a
crowd of 20 to 30 protesters on private property.
and that second call was at 2:11 p.m. or 400 and 11 hours
for assistant police that
assistant. Police that call came from cpic. And they
requested assistance for
requested assistance, for, for the federal agents that were
being surrounded by a protesters.
being surrounded by a protesters and that third call at
2:15 p.m. or 1415 hours. Was a request from Homeland.
Security, um, requesting assistance for crowd control at
the location.
All right, we have a point of information.
All right, we have a point of information by honoring
cassada. Yes. Could you describe what CPAC stands for cpic?
What does that stand for?
Cpic is uh, our Fus.
Cpic is uh, our Fusion Center. It is our 24-hour operation.
Center where all information regarding major Inc.
Center where all information regarding major incidents and
significant incidents come in, and they
significant incidents come in and they coordinate that
information and distribution. Is that that
information and distribution is that that information to
all of our officers or to our Command Staff. Yeah. But uh
what what is that c? It's crime. Prevention in SMS Center
in incident Center. Thank you.
All right.
All right, so continuing on here um, at 1415 hours.
All right. So continuing on here. Um at 1415 hours or 2:15
p.m. we had a b car and a field. Super
p.m. we had a b car and a field supervisor that were
dispatched over to the 2200 Block of South Michigan.
dispatched over to the 2200 Block of South Michigan Avenue
and the Zone dispatchers they continue to
and the Zone. Dispatchers, they continue to respond to
requests from the field and so the situation was concluded.
It's like
talking a little bit about the data sharing and requests.
all of the general public. Um, they make formal requests,
through the foyer or the freedom information act and that
can be found at the www.org and that's a faux
can be found at the www.org and that's a foyer request tab
there.
That's it.
It.
It, uh, thank you for that. Um, director Brooks.
Good morning. We have a slides.
Uh, well that's
Uh, well, that's happening Dr. Washington. Sure. Um, based
on everything that occurred that day and how you all?
on everything that occurred that day and how you all were
receiving calls, are there things that you would change or
modify? For example, 1, you explained how you track certain
causes are more information. You'd seek to gather any
change in protocol based on how it actually occurred. No,
for the 3 calls that we received that William MC.
Everything was handled according to protocol. Um, we
received the calls from the field, received a call from
cpic from Homeland Security and they were Pro.
cpic from Homeland Security and they were processed
accordingly.
And then, and I apologize.
And then and I apologize because I was making sure this. So
when this is occurring, uh, your you got the calls go.
when this is occurring uh your you got the calls, go in CPD
shows up they then see that it is.
shows up, they then see that it is uh ice agents and
activity. Um,
Correct me if I'm wrong. Is there a communication?
Correct me if I'm wrong. Is there a communication back at
the end to articulate to oemc? Hey, this is what is our
current right now, should there be any more subsequent
calls? I believe that CPD probably will speak more to what
actually happens on.
actually happens on the scene because I don't want to
really, uh, misspeak but
really, uh, misspeak, but, uh, the communication is
definitely have between the dispatchers and CPD.
definitely have between the dispatchers and CPD until the
conclusion of the event, okay?
Absolutely.
absolutely, um, as we get this, uh, set up if anyone has
questions based on what's been presented so far, we're
happy to take those questions to begin.
Yeah.
There are more presentations. So folks,
there are more presentations so folks on wait, but if you
got any questions, any time, okay,
um, for for uh, the record we
Um, for for uh, the record. We did double check. And as of
today, the q1 uh reporting related to uh communic
between ice and CPD was updated. I checked it as late as
yesterday and the information hadn't been there.
yesterday and the information hadn't been there but it's
there now for q1 uh for information.
Okay.
Thank you.
Uh, again, good afternoon director. Glenn Brooks.
Uh, again, good afternoon director, Glenn Brooks Chicago
Police Department. Um, I would like to begin with our
special order.
Thank you.
Thank you, uh, special orders. 06
Thank you uh, special orders 061403 covers.
Thank you, uh, special orders. 061403 covers our response
and gives us our Direction. How
gives us our Direction, how we're going to respond to any
incident involving citizens.
incident involving citizenship status.
All right.
All right, and I want to highlight a particular uh some
particular sections of this order number 1 Department
members will not participate in any civil immigration.
members will not participate in any civil immigration,
enforcement operation or assist.
enforcement operation or assist civil civil immigration,
enforcement of federal immig.
enforcement of federal immigration law,
There is 1 exception.
There is 1 exception to this uh that deals with Public
Safety. Uh, and I just want to really distill this
Safety. Uh and I just want to really distill this. What
this essentially means is that.
we will still enforce all
We will still enforce all criminal, uh, violations.
We will still enforce all criminal uh, violations along
with ensuring the public safety. So,
ensuring the public safety. So as if there is any civil,
uh, immigration action that's taken, we
civil, uh, immigration action that's taken, we want to
assist in it. But if there's a subsequent crime, that
occurs, we will take police action.
occurs, we will take police action and we will ensure the
public safety. No matter what is occurring.
Next slide.
Department.
Department members. And this is spelled out department,
members will not permit.
immigration agents to access to a person being detained by
or in the custody of the department or department members
including by telephone
also department members will not permit immigration.
Also, department members will not permit immigration agents
to use Department facilities for investig?
to use Department facilities for investigation interviews
or other investigative purposes.
Quick question director. Yes. Okay. When, um, as far as
related, sorry,
related, sorry talking to the mic related to the special
order. Um, when you make reference to Department mem,
order. Um, when you make reference to department members,
does that also include the CPD?
does that also include the CPD foyer team?
This does include in.
This does include includes all department members, Okay? The
reason I ask is as a report had shown uh, CBD Foya,
provide some of that information to uh, Department of
Homeland Security and but we're taking special order. Is
Homeland Security and but we're taking special order is
they should not have it all. Is that your understanding of
it?
it, my understanding of it is this 1, we will
it, my understanding of it is this 1 we will comply with
all laws including foyer laws for anybody who makes a foyer
request. That's under the Freedom of Information Act.
That's number 1.
that's number 1. Number 2, we are not
number 1. Number 2, we are not to participate in a civil
immigration,
immigration action and that is in my understanding, okay?
okay? And, uh, this may not be your exact period, it might
be for you department. But even if there is, for example, a
request by anyone,
request by anyone in a foyer, and I think reporters in the
public know,
public, know this, there are many times where foyers are
sent back red.
sent back. Redacted with some information not there. So is
that discretion to decide what is redacted or not.
that discretion to decide what is redacted or not related
to for is that
Up to the foyer Department.
Up to the foyer department. Does that? Come about? There's
a foyer review process, which all foyers are held to that
same standard. So when we receive before you the foyer,
same standard. So when we receive before you the foyer unit
receives, it it it requests the information.
receives, it it it requests, the information from whatever
unit that the information is about.
unit that the information is about, they will return it to
foyer, foyer will go through a review process which
includes our illegal. And then that foyer will be uh
fulfilled.
fulfilled, okay? So then in accordance with all those
procedures, okay? And then
I imagine this might be more for either CP.
I imagine this might be more for either CPD law or
Department of Law because what what I'm trying to get.
Department of Law because what what I'm trying to get, uh,
an understanding of, uh,
Is who's making the decision on what gets red?
Is, who's making the decision on what gets redacted or not.
So, for example, and what we saw in the report, um, what
was sent was arrest records that had pictures addresses,
uh, country of origin and information of that.
uh, country of origin and information of that sort. Uh, I
guess I'm curious.
Is that is that something typical that gets?
Is that is that something typical that gets requested? And
then gets sent which has personal identity information?
That kind of what I can do is make sure that you receive
through the chair, all the foil procedures that we can give
to you. Yeah, that would be extremely helpful, just to get
an understanding because I know part of the questions are
what the federal laws are related.
what the federal laws are related to the city law and so,
or and state even
and state even so to get a better understanding of what I
think would be immensely helpful. Thank you.
think would be immensely helpful. Thank you very much that
procedure through the chair.
Right. Uh, and I also would like to highlight section
Right? Uh, and I also would like to highlight section g
department, members will not, we will not set up.
department. Members will not, we will not set up a traffic
perimeter or provide on-site support to assist civil
immigration enforcement oper.
immigration enforcement operation, please note. This this
does not preclude department members from responding and
taking police action should a contemporaries
taking police action. Should a contemporary Public Safety
concern, arise or in resp
concern arise or in response to allege violation of the
Illinois. Compel
Illinois, compiled statute or miserable code. Oh, I'm sorry
there.
sorry. There you go.
so, I think the
So I think the note is very important. Here we are still
going to ensure that Public Safety is preserved. So we are
going to make sure that people do not get run over. We're
going to make sure that people do not.
going to make sure that people do not are in a position
where they are vulnerable for somebody running.
where they are vulnerable for somebody running into them.
Um, we've seen incidents where people have used vehicles to
run into crowds, we're going to take action to mitigate
that. So people remain.
that. So people remain safe.
I would also.
I would also note that we, uh, spend
I would also note that we uh spend an incredible amount of
energy making sure people understand their rights. What we
do not want is people to feel that the Chicago Police
Department will
Department, will not provide Pro protection, or service to
them.
them and regardless of your immigration status for us in
the police department, your immigration status does not
have any bearing on the service that you're going to
receive and we're going to treat everyone.
receive and we're going to treat everyone equally and
protect every single person in.
protect every single person in this city.
with that, I would like to conclude
I I'll have about a couple questions.
I, I'll have about a couple questions before I open it up
to members. Um, so a similar question, I asked. Uh, Dr.
Washington, right? Like, there are plans and training as
to, what should occur.
what should occur based on orders and the municipal code
and then what we saw on June 4th,
Was an accident, actually.
Was an accident actually occur in real time which as we all
know reality.
know, reality sometimes doesn't reflect what planning or
paperwork.
paperwork might show. And so my question to you, director
Brooks is based on what CPD saw internally that occurred
that day are their learnings and opportunities, uh, that
may further.
may further inform future training, or future protocol.
so what occurred that day was a leveling up of the incident
when we received a call from oemc, our officers respond,
whatever information is given us during that, um, that call
becomes the floor. When those officers get there, they
assess that information for its accuracy.
assess that information for its accuracy, they assess that
information for the safety.
information for the safety, and they began a preliminary
investigation. Those
investigation, those officers arrived. They saw a
situation.
which dictated them for them to call a supervisor, which
was done and subsequently to that. Uh, those supervisors
called additional supervisors up, including, when not only
myself, but the first deputy and the chief of Patrol
responded to that scene, we assess the situation. And at
that time, it was, it was determined that this was a symbol
immigration. We then moved outside of the facility.
And we provided Public, Safety, traffic control.
And we provided Public Safety, traffic, control to ensure
that people were not going to be run over.
Uh, thank you very much. I'll uh, open
Uh, thank you very much. I'll, uh, open it up for
questions. Uh, first up, we have other person.
questions. Uh, first up, we have other person Rodriguez,
followed by alderman cassada.
followed by Alderman cassada and then otter person Fuentes.
Uh, thank you so much. Uh, Mr. Chair just very quickly.
We're not going to get uh presentations at the outset from
any of the other uh departments or they're available for.
questions though. Yeah. Well we want to do is actually and
they're they're both the
they're, they're both the different departments to speak to
it. We want to break it up into sections, right? So, for
example. Okay, CPD is acting and and oemc kind of in the
moment.
moment then later on the conversation is about independent
investig.
investigations at which point we'll talk to cop and oig. So
we want to make sure while we've got them up here, we
focus.
on the questions for CPD uh and OMC.
on the questions for CPD, uh, and OMC. So we'll all get
round to or or threes. Yeah. Okay.
round to or or threes. Yeah. Okay, or section. We'll go to
the next. Okay, thank you so much. Um,
the next. Okay. Thank you so much. Um, thank you Dr.
Washington and director Brooks for your presentation, uh,
to you Mr. Chair.
to you Mr. Chair your. Diligence on this issue is noted and
I want to appreciate you. Uh not just because you have a
great haircut but you are working hard uh on this very
important issue. Um, look, this is a serious issue. Today,
we have the federal government
Debating whether to give 45 billion dollars.
debating whether to give 45 billion dollars uh to Trump's
gestapo to deport a million people a year, right? Our
neighbors need to know that their city government.
neighbors need to know that their city government is on
their side. The fact is everyone is less safe, everyone
citiz.
citizens residents the undocumented or less safe.
citizens residents the undocumented or less safe if our
neighbors don't feel like they can pick up the the phone.
neighbors don't feel like they can pick up the the phone
call 911 and get service. Um that's what the welcoming
cities of ordinances about.
cities of ordinances about and it's about specific
incidences like this. There was a lot of issues um, with
what happened that day that need Clarity. Um,
what happened that day, that need Clarity. Um, and I hope
that this, uh, Endeavor here that we're taking today, uh,
and passing, um, this order will help us get that
transparent.
transparency because our residents deserve to know that the
city is on their side. People are scared people
city is on their side. People are scared. People are
worried whether their children.
worried whether their children will be able to hug them as
they wake up the next day.
Or whether their parents will be taken away from them.
Um, so this is a very serious issue. I'm glad we're putting
the appropriate attention on this so I do have
the appropriate attention on this, so I do have a series of
questions here. Um, regarding CPD involvement on June.
questions here. Um, regarding CPD, involvement on June 4th,
2025 on 22nd.
2025 on 22nd and Michigan Avenue. Um,
Regarding CPD.
Regarding CPD and, um, what what? So we we talked about
Regarding CPD and um, what what? So we we talked about Dr.
Washington the manner in which CPD was contacted 3 times 2
of which were by federal authorities.
of which were by federal authorities 1 was a contracted ice
worker.
ice worker, another was Homeland, Security, and it seemed
like there was a third cpic call that
there was a third cpic call that would be internal. Do I
have that? Is that is that right?
Do I have that? Is that, is that right? You are correct.
Okay, very good. Um, and could you remind me?
very good. Um, and could you remind me again what cpic
stands for the crime prevention in in
stands for the crime, prevention in incident Center. Okay,
and those are all City agencies.
And those are all City agencies involved with that. Yes,
sir. Okay. So we received a call from a city agency.
requesting, that CPD have president.
requesting, that CPD have President Presence at this, uh,
action know.
action know, so the call from cpic came in, um, as stated
it the call came in from cpic, and he stated that
were federal agents, that needed assistance, they were
someone, I don't know if someone calls he picked
themselves, but cpic called us that
but cpic called us that oemc.
To inform us that we needed to deploy resources to.
to inform us that we needed to deploy resources to, uh, for
a crowd control, for the federal agents, who was the entity
at cpic that called CPD.
at cpic that called CPD that information. I can get through
the chair because I don't have it right now, okay?
And I'm wondering who contacted.
And I'm wondering who contacted them. Right, I think here
here's here's the
Here's here's the issue that we're all having here. It's
like, who knows.
like, who knows what when, and who's cooperating to what
extent, right?
extent right was there a cpic individual on site? Was he
picked 1 of the uh, Federal
picked 1 of the uh Federal contractors was someone from
cpic uh involved in that way. This is this is very
concerning.
concerning director Brooks.
Alderman, if I can provide some clarification, cpic is a
Chicago Police Unit.
Chicago, police unit, they are able to monitor
Chicago, police unit. They are able to monitor the
different camera systems throughout the city.
camera systems throughout the city so cpic is a Chicago
Police Unit. Okay. So someone monitoring cameras
Police Unit. Okay? So someone monitoring cameras from the
police department.
Uh, informed.
Uh informed um, I guess the local command.
Uh informed um I guess the local command of a and they
requested presence. Is that right? So from what I am
understanding from,
understanding from the testimony this morning so someone
from cpic contacted OMC to dispatch additional resources,
okay. If you don't
Okay. If you don't may I ask yeah as a follow-up just to
get an understanding on the protocol. So if cpic is someone
looking at cameras to see what's going on
Is it potentially that someone else called cpic? They, look
at the camera. They say this. Looks like something
verified.
We need to go in contact oemc. Is that kind of the
workflow.
so ottoman, I'm not able to, I don't know the occurrences
which led to the individual calling for additional
resources.
resources there. At some point there was a uh a need that
they identified.
they identified and contacted oemc to dispatch additional
resources.
resources, okay. And in contacting
resources, okay? And in contacting oemc, we had a city of
Chicago employee contacting OMC for additional resources at
this location. Do we know what additional resources they
were asking for. So if we're contacting OMC, we're asking
for them to go over the air, which meaning on the radio and
ask for additional units to that location because
ask for additional units, to that location because they
have seen something, which they believe is a public safety
or a criminal, uh, act occurring. And that additional
resources are needed.
resources are needed, okay? Um,
What?
Involvement. Do federal
involvement, do federal authorities have
With cpic.
I am not able to provide that I can provide.
I am not able to provide that I can provide that through
the chair.
the, the total
The, the total involvement if there is any involvement with
cpic, do federal authorities monitor our, um, video
surveillance throughout the city.
I am not aware that the federal authorities.
I am not aware that the federal authorities monitor our
video system, okay? Thank you so much. Um, I have
video system, okay. Thank you so much. Um, I have about 9
questions that was the first 1. So I'm gonna I'm gonna do
my best here. Um, as far as the presence on the scene, it's
been documented extensively and I think there's uh, ample
been documented extensively. And I think there's uh ample
um acknowledgement that CPD was
acknowledgement that CPD was present that day. And I don't
think anyone would object to that. That's that's accurate.
think anyone would object to that. That's, that's accurate.
Um,
What capacity?
what capacity was CPD presence and under what legal or
procedural, Authority,
Allows CPD or mandates that CPD.
allows CPD or mandates that CPD be present in this
incident. This type of incident, forgive me. So, number 1,
when the calls,
when the calls come for service, we are the primary law
enforcement.
enforcement agency for the city of Chicago. We respond for
calls.
calls for service which this was and 9111 call.
our officers arrived on that scene, they
Our officers arrived on that scene, they begin to assess
it. They determine that a supervisor. And additional
resources were needed to provide Edition.
resources were needed to provide additional guidance. When
those, uh, supervisors arrived.
They again.
They again, brought additional supervisors and resources.
there to determine and assess that situation.
And I I think I heard the answer to this but I want to ask
the question.
the question, did CPD detain hold
the question. Did CPD detain hold or assist in transporting
any individual.
transporting any individuals uh, that were subject to
transporting any individuals, uh, that were subject to, um,
the orders that ice was carrying.
the orders that ice was carrying out.
CPD, did not.
CPD did not transport detain or take anyone.
CPD did not transport detain or take anyone in custody on
June 4th at that address, okay?
June 4th at that address. Okay? Thank you. Um, my
understanding is that CPD and correct me if I'm wrong.
understanding is that CPD and correct me if I'm wrong, did
enter this facilities that accurate?
CPD did enter the facility. We were on, we were
CPD did enter the facility. We were on. We were unaware
that this was an ice facility. If you're familiar with that
build that block it is made mainly of commercial and
residential buildings. There is no external signage.
residential buildings. There is no external signage that
says this is an ice facility. We went because we recall
there and we went to assess the safety concerns that were
being called for.
being called for and the entire situation. Do we know how
many officers entered the building?
We do not know how many officers we'll have to get that
through the chair.
Okay. Um, I'm assuming that that would be really
transparent.
transparent in an internal review, the engagement of those.
in an internal review, the engagement of those officers as
they entered into the facility who they spoke to why they
how long they spoke to them. And what would why did they
leave? Why didn't they stay in that?
leave? Why didn't they stay in that facility? I'm glad they
didn't. But, um,
didn't. But um, I do understand that they were coming in
and out for some time.
so I'd like to know through that internal
So I'd like to know through that internal review. Why is it?
What were the? What was the decision?
What were the, what was the decision making? And how did it
come to them leaving? Um, the internal this the inside of
this location Alderman? At that particular day, we
this location Alderman at that particular day we had a
number of protesters on both sides of the building when our
officers.
our officers arrived, they were making an assessment. What
was happening in?
was happening in the front in the back? Additionally, you
had other supervisors coming into that.
had other supervisors coming into that facility to do to
make their own assessment and get briefed.
make their own assessment and get briefed by those other
supervisors and officers.
supervisors and officers on scene when the most senior
officer arrived on the scene and got the final briefing, it
was made.
was made, the determination was made that this in fact,
was made, the determination was made that this in fact is a
civil immigration issue and that all
a civil immigration issue and that all CPD officers should
leave that facility. And what time was that? Do? You know,
we'll have to get that through the chair. Okay, so
regarding this internal review, this fact-finding process.
What's the scope of that?
what's the scope of that review? And
Will that review be made public and specific?
Will that review be made public and specifically will body
cam footage? Be made public?
cam footage? Be made public as well.
so,
So, as I as of today, I am not sure.
So, as I as of today, I am not sure when, or that will be
made public.
made public, but those things can be requested through.
made public, but those things can be requested through the
chair.
Oh, we're going to request that, yes.
Oh, we're going to request that. Yes, for sure. And I, yeah,
and look and and we're going to do it formally. And I want
I want to know what.
I want to know what happened to my to my colleague, right?
I mean he was there.
I mean he was there he was, he was there in person, he was
there protecting our citizens, our residents, um, that were
there to, you know.
there to, you know, make sure that kidnapping wasn't
happening, right. That
wasn't happening, right? That makes sure that everybody's
rights, uh, were preserved in that moment and I thank you
so much for being there. Put your putting your body on the
line, but I want to know why he was pushed to the ground
and what happened there, right? And I, my understanding it.
wasn't CPD, did did that, but it was the, the armed
gasstop.
wasn't CPD, did did that. But it was the, the armed gestapo
that were in face masks that we can't tell who they are.
that were in face masks that we can't tell who they are
doing this. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go ahead Mr. Chair for the
record. If you could list, uh, what you would like to do
the chair, just
the chair. Just so we make sure we have a list of all the
everything I just said.
everything I just said, nice. All right, we're looking out.
Uh, so my number 6, body camera, footage Communications,
body camera footage,
camera footage is what I outlined there and I will
there and I will uh, if it's outside of that, I'll
Request that in writing through the chair. Okay. Thank
Request that in writing through the chair. Okay, thank you
very much. And then I'll ask my staff to review this video.
As we make sure, we get it all.
video. As we make sure we get it all. Um,
on to, uh,
On to, uh, uh, compliance, um, moving forward. How
On to, uh, uh, compliance. Um, moving forward. How do you
ensure that every officer understands and follows the
welcoming City? Uh ordinance.
welcoming City? Uh ordinance, especially in real time field
situations that involved.
situations that involved, uh, federal agencies, the
president has
has promised to escalate how are we
president has promised to escalate how are we escalating
our ability to train our officers? And make sure that no,
nothing against the Illinois, trust act or the
Nothing against the Illinois. Trust act or the welcoming
city ordinance occurs. Thank you ottoman.
city ordinance occurs. Thank you, ottoman. In January of
this year, we updated our Pollock.
this year, we updated our policy and we also, uh, mandated
that all all members of the department.
that all all members of the department review the policy
through our e-learning system.
through our e-learning system system. In addition to that,
we've instructed all of our supervisors to review the
policy at roll call and
policy at roll call. And in addition to that, we now, uh,
ensure that in any immigration.
ensure that in any immigration issue that we call for the,
what we call, the watch, operation Lieutenant to respond to
that scene.
to that scene. In addition, to that there to call a street
Deputy, which is a senior, uh, uniformed member
on the streets at that time.
On the streets at that time. There's a street Deputy
assigned 24 hours a day.
assigned 24 hours a day to be the designate senior.
assigned 24 hours a day to be the designate senior officer
for operations. Is there a timeline? Uh, expectation of uh,
reaction time for those individuals? Those
uh, reaction time for those individuals, those leaders. So
the watch oper
watch operation Lieutenant is located within the district.
So,
So they're they're expected to get their forth with.
So they're, they're expected to get their forth with and
the street deputies responsible for this city.
street deputies responsible for this city and they are
going to make once that notification made is made they're
going to make their way directly to that scene. And then um
Okay so
okay so um
regarding the incidents and and, and
Regarding the incidents and and, and stepping back a little
bit. Um, we'll see PD commit.
bit. Um, we'll see PD commit to sharing with the committee
all communic.
all Communications or dispatch logs between CPD and ice.
related, to this action, on June 4th.
We will.
We will follow all the admissible laws and orders, as we
always.
always do and we will forward that through the chair and
we'll foil that I, I guess as well. Um,
Uh, in the last couple. Mr. Chair.
Uh, in the last couple Mr. Chair. The CPD currently have
any formal or informal relationships agreement?
any formal or informal relationships agreements or
protocols with ice or DHS.
So Alderman, we have no.
Agreements regarding civil immigration ISS.
Agreements regarding civil immigration issues whatsoever,
there are other agreements. However, I do, I would like to
understand Homeland Security is a multi-prong law,
enforcement agencies that deal.
enforcement agencies that deal with drugs and narcotics
where we will work.
where we will work with those on those particular criminal
cases. And
cases and I wish the federal government was spending 45
billion dollars on taking arms out of the hands of uh
individuals who shouldn't have them versus going after our
brothers and sisters. Um,
What are the limitations?
What are the limitations of some of those agreements
particularly as it relates to drugs?
Particularly, as it relates to drugs, guns things of the
nature, as it relates to, um, um immigration
nature, as it relates to, um, um, immigration enforcement.
So once again, when it comes to any civil immigration
issue, we do not cooperate with the federal government.
specifics to any other Federal agreement that we may.
specifics to any other Federal agreement that we may have.
We will have to get that through the chair.
and and, and lastly, um,
And and and lastly um what is CPD doing?
and and and lastly um what is CPD doing um to rebuild
confidence with the community. The fact is, is that we are
a safer City when all of our residents feel safer and able
to pick up the phone and call 91.
to pick up the phone and call 911, what are we doing to
make sure that those relationships are strengthened and any
Eros?
erosion of that trust from June? 4th is rep.
erosion of that trust from June 4th is repaired, uh, and
improved. Well, 1 of the first things that we're going to
do is be transparent.
do is be transparent and appear before this committee and
other community.
other community groups to again, reiterate our commitment.
other community groups to again, reiterate our commitment
to every single person within the city of Chicago. I would
also like to, uh, pass it over. To my Deputy, Deputy
Michael milstein to speak.
Michael milstein to speak, specifically what we are doing
to, uh, Outreach to the community to ensure them. Our
to, uh, Outreach to the community to ensure them our role
within, uh, this issue Michael.
within, uh, this issue Michael, good morning. Uh, Mike
milen, deputy director in the office of equity and
engagement in Chicago Police Department, uh, since
21 CD has had a team of immigrant migrant.
21 CD has had a team of immigrant migrant and Refugee
liaison officers, um, as well as non-sworn members. These
are members of CPD, who are
are members of CPD who are taking off the watch. They are
designated as liaison.
designated as liaison between CPD and individuals who may
identify as undocumented immigrants.
identify as undocumented immigrants migrants or refugees.
Their role is purely to be proactive.
Their role is purely to be proactive to be a community
engaging. Um, they take no enforcement action unless um, a
criminal activity occurs that they need to respond to, um,
and
Really is about to community groups, meet with them have
discussions. Just like
discussions, just like this. Um talk about ways that CPD
can provide support
provide support for folks who need CPD assistance in safe
ways. Um, we've been going out with communities since 20
ways. Um we've been going out with communities since 2021.
We've been continuing to grow that team as well. Um,
We've been continuing to grow that team as well. Um and
we're happy to um introduce those liaison to folks to
organizations at any time uh folks like us to be out there.
Yeah. The last thing I'd say is
Yeah, the last thing I'd say is, um, I think there's a lot
that
a lot that the city can do, particularly the police
department can do to to
can do to to support and build trust. Um, the fact is
fact is, is that
I've heard of the
I've heard of efforts to establish perimeters around safe.
places churches, schools.
places, churches, schools. As they're letting out to make
sure that we're proactively.
sure that we're proactively alerting the community. If Isis
present. Um, I or um, if there's
present, um, I or um, if there's eminent danger to
communities about ice,
communities about ice actions. Uh, the fact is, is that, I
think, I think,
think, I think our, uh, our city bureaucracy.
think I think our uh, our city bureaucracy is doing a lot,
but can't do much more, uh, to make sure the
but can't do much more uh, to make sure the communities
feel like we're on their side. So, um,
like we're on their side. So um, I'm I'm committed to that
engagement.
that engagement. Um, and I think you for being here in
person. Um, and I thank you, Mr. Chair. Once again, for
leading this effort, thank you very much. Um, a couple
items to note. Uh, 1 is, uh, for a follow-up for through
the chair. Um,
the chair, um, any documentation related to protocol, and
guidelines as to what the expectations are. When these
incidents occur, right? I think you walked us through
Typically how the protocol plays out so knowing what any of
those Communications look like. So we have a better. So we
have a better. Understanding would be helpful. Sorry. Let
me make
me get the mic up here. Um, we'd want to get that
information. Um, I think something that appears to me and I
get a follow-up is
In.
in the incident in on June 4th, CPD shows up.
In the incident in on June 4th, CPD shows up. There are uh
people there Gathering protesting which is what initiated
the call uh is there.
the call. Uh, is there a person from CPD in a situation?
the call. Uh is there a person from CPD in a situation like
that who then is the point of contact between?
that who then is the point of contact between the groups
that are potentially there?
that are potentially there and CPD. So there is better
lines of communication in that kind of uh scenario.
Yes. So depending
yes, so depending on the scenario, it is usually going to
be the highest ranking member there. Whether that is a
commander Deputy Chief or such.
commander, Deputy Chief or such and certain scenarios. Uh,
when we have large Gatherings, it will be myself. Uh,
when we have large Gatherings, it will be myself. Uh who
will start to interface with.
will start to interface with uh, representative of that
group or groups.
group or groups, uh, during those protests. Okay? Thank you
very much. Um, Al
very much. Um, also for members to note, uh, I am, uh,
Taking some privilege as a chair of the committee.
Taking some privilege as a chair of the committee to let
you all know. We will be holding the third item, which is
the updates on what the committee has been doing to present
at the next Committee hearing, which is on the 24th of
July.
in order to allow more time for the second item giving
in order to allow more time for the second item, giving
people more time to ask questions as it's clear.
people more time to ask questions, as it's clear. Uh,
there's a lot of information to be gleaned. So next, uh,
will be alderman cassada
Good morning, chairman and members of the committee. I first
want to thank all of the community members and Advocate
organizations for being here today.
organizations, for being here today, and every day, your
work and Leadership.
day, your work and Leadership now more than ever
is necessary in the face of authoritarianism and aggressive
immigration.
aggressive, immigration enforcement.
I also want to thank uh, all the city.
I also want to thank, uh, all the city representatives for
being here today, um, and want to express
being here today. Um, and want to express our Collective
appreciation for the work, you do to keep our community
safe.
I want to clearly establish that this line of questioning.
And that this hearing comes from a place of shared
commitment to transparency and Trust.
commitment to transparency and trust between our city
departments. And the people of Chicago,
our job as Municipal public servants is to help bridge
trusts and understanding between the people we represent
and the institutions that serve them it is unfortunate and
Unbecoming that any members of this body try and pollitt.
Unbecoming that any members of this body try and politicize
this hearing which is aimed to strengthen public Trust.
this hearing, which is aimed to strengthen public trust and
not erode it. Let me say that 1 more time, it is
unfortunate and Unbecoming of any members of this body to
try and politicize.
try and politicize this hearing, which is aimed to
strengthen public.
strengthen public trust and not erode it.
On June.
on June 4th 2025 there was an ice operation at an
On June 4th 2025, there was an ice operation at an isap
office in the South Loop. That raised deep concerns.
office in the South Loop. That raised deep concerns and
pain among many residents and community members.
pain among many residents and community members, 12
community members, many of whom were mothers
community, members. Many of whom were mothers were Stripped
Away in front of their children and neighbors. What we saw
was inhumane
Chicago.
Chicago is a proud Sanctuary city that has helped keep.
Chicago is a proud Sanctuary city that has helped keep our
safe City, safe for all residents for decades. That is why
it's critical that our policies.
it's critical that our policies reflect our values of
protect our neighbor's during
protect our neighbor's, during their interactions, with
police for civil matters like access
police, for civil matters, like accessing city services or
or reporting.
or reporting crimes, regardless of their immigration
status.
Our intention for today's hearing is not to suggest wrong.
wrongdoing on behalf of CPD, but to gain clarity.
wrongdoing on behalf of CPD but to gain Clarity and ensure
that our City's ordinances are consistently up.
that our City's ordinances are consistently upheld and
respected. Having a clear understanding of
respected. Having a clear, understanding of CPD, cpd's,
roles, and protocols,
roles and protocols followed uh, that were followed during
this operation.
this operation is essential for maintaining trust
accountability.
accountability and Community safety. We look forward to
having the full cooperation of All City, departments and
agencies and
agencies, and I'd like to begin my questioning
so,
So um, how many CPD officers and resources?
So, um, how many CPD officers and resources were deployed
on June 4th?
Ottoman will be able to get that through the chair.
Okay. Um, and could you also maybe also?
Okay. Um, and could you also maybe also hand us an estimate
of what the financial cost of CD CPD is present was on June
4th or is that possible? Yeah, we would definitely have to
get that through the chair. Thank you very much.
get that through the chair. Thank you very much, which
supervisors were on scene.
so, there were a number of Supervisors, uh, you had the
chief of
of Patrol in the first Deputy respond. You had the deputy
I'm sorry.
deputy I'm sorry. Could you provide names for us? Please.
Oh, yes. You had to chief of Patrol. John Hine respond. You
had first.
had first Deputy, uh, tally respond. You had myself
respond. You would you also had the deputy chief of the
central control group. Um,
and I just went blank Joe bird U respond.
and I just went blank, Joe bird U respond. You also had the
commander of the district. Dave Harris respond?
Thank you.
Um,
To go to OMC, real quick. When
to go to OMC real quick, when, uh, the people who made
their calls into Om,
calls into OMC, did they describe themselves? Yes. And
And how did they describe themselves? So, the first call
that came from the, um, contractor ice worker. She said
that she was a contracted ice worker and that's the 1 that
she called about 20.
she called about 20 to 30 protesters on the scene at the
location. Um, the second call came from the cpic officer.
location. Um, the second call came from the cpic officer
and then um the third call came from the homeland security
officer and they all identified themselves.
officer and they all identified themselves as such so they
identify themselves.
This home and security. Did they describe it all? What they
were doing? What the nature of the situation?
were doing? What the nature of the situation was?
yes, so for the Homeland Security,
Yes, so for the homeland security, callers representing and
and the and the contracted ice.
and the and the contracted ice worker, okay? So the
contract ice worker did not explain what she was doing
particularly, but she just said that there were, uh, 20
particularly, but she just said that there were uh, 20 to
30 protesters on private property and that const.
30 protesters on private property and that constituted a a
disturbance large Gathering from our protocol. Um, so then
we dispatched or sent the information over to the officers.
to let them know that that was what's happening at that
location for the um homeless security worker person. Uh,
she called and said that there was, uh, they requesting a
beat car for assistance for crowd control. There was no
further information gathered there other than the fact that
they just requested additional officers for
they just requested additional officers For assistance with
crowd got it. So the first person said,
crowd, got it. So the first person said that there were
people on private property. Correct? What?
people on private property correct what private property
were they on? That's all. That's the only information that
she provided. It was private property at that location.
Well I think that was very inaccurate information that that
person provided you with because when I arrived on scene,
there were people on the sidewalk um and
there were people on the sidewalk um, and on the street or
in the alley, there was no private property that people
were encroaching on so that person clearly lied. Um,
were encroaching on, so that person clearly lied, um, to
our our
office of Emergency Operations.
Office of Emergency Operations. Um, when somebody calls for
like the third call when they call for crowd control, can
you explain to us what are some of the protocols or
procedures or policies?
procedures? Or policies? When someone says that they need
that for what? What kind of
that? For what what kind of uh concerns or threats? Um does
someone communicate?
someone communicate or um assume that they're communicating
when they say they need crowd control support? Yeah so
generally crowd.
support? Yeah, so generally crowd control for us at oemc.
Um, they're
there's a, uh, we have a triage questions if you will to
determine whether it's a large crowd or not. That's the
first thing that we do. So after obtaining the information
about the location of where the crowd is um then we'll say
like there's a question in triage I asked how many persons
are in that crowd and what constitutes a large crowd for
us.
at OMC. 25 is the magic number for a large.
at OMC. 25 is the magic number for a large crowd. So when
that first caller called and said that they had 20,
that first caller called and said that they had 20 to 30,
that kind of struck like ring the bell for a large
Gathering and that's why the information was sent over for
dispatch. Got it.
dispatch, got it. And so, and essentially, the the, the
thought process is that when there's that many people, we
probably need some help, just to make sure.
probably need some help, just to make sure that everyone is
safe and everyone is secure, is that
safe and everyone is secure. Is that definitely a public
safety concern? Yes, sir. Okay, that's good to know. Um, so
when police officers arrived on scene, were there any kind
of was there anything that that communicated to them, that
the Republic?
the Republic safety concerns?
so, when we receive a call from oemc, uh, we
So when we receive a call from oemc, uh, we take that uh,
whatever information is dispatch.
whatever information is dispatched, that becomes the basis
that we operate from. Once we get there, we begin a
preliminary.
preliminary investigation to see if what was called in.
preliminary investigation to see if what was called in is
actually what is our current those officers that arrived
there will make an assessment and this situation and their
assessment. They called for a supervisor and additional
resources.
resources for that situation and those supervisors then.
will begin their own assessment, got it? And so,
will begin their own assessment, got it. And so, um, how
did the CPD supervisors, ultimately?
the CPD supervisors ultimately discern what was happening?
um,
Um was a federal immigration operation and when did they
decide to pull out?
so again, we can get you a timeline through the chair, but
at some point, the most sin
at some point, the most senior officer made the
determination that this is, in fact, a
Federal immigration issue. There is nothing for us to do
here. We retreated uh from the building I should say we
left the building we then went outside and we became
concerned about the traffic conditions and people's general
safety.
Got it. And so, um, was there then communic?
Got it. And so um, was there then communication between the
supervisor and any on?
supervisor and any on-site ice agents to make that
determination and call?
I am not aware of.
I am not aware of a conversation between that supervisor.
I am not aware of a conversation between that supervisor
and an ice agent would any interaction?
and an ice agent. Would any interaction like that? Warrant,
uh, recording of that kind of inter.
uh, recording of that kind of interaction?
I like,
like with with the supervisor, need to record that they had
a conversation with, you know, any ice agents on site.
Essentially did any of the supervisors on their speak with
somebody.
somebody on site, IE and Ice agent and is there recording
of that interaction? I'm not aware of a recording of that
inter.
interaction, a supervisor would talk to the people present
and in control of that facility to determine uh, what was
going on and make that assessment.
Got it. Thank you. So as a follow-up point of clarification,
Got it. Thank you. So as a follow-up point of clarification
for any of the officers um
clarification, for any of the officers, um, mentioned by
ottoman Casada, would they all have had body?
ottoman Casada would they all have had body 1 cameras which
would have recorded any of the conversations?
All of our officers are required to have body worn.
all of our officers are required to have body worn camera
and in any police action that
and in any police action, that camera would be activated.
Got it.
So following this operation did CPD conduct our
So following this operation did CPD conduct or plan to
conduct any internal review of its actions and involvement
can you repeat the question 1 more time? Following the
Can you repeat the question? 1 more time? Following the
operation did the Chicago Police Department conduct
operation. Did the Chicago Police Department conduct or
plan to conduct any internal review of its actions and
involvement
I'm unaware of a formal, uh, review.
I'm unaware of a formal uh review of our actions. There was
convers.
conversations to ensure that we complied with the welcoming
City.
City and our orders and
In.
in those conversations, we had
got it. Sorry. Just for for clarity.
And this is important.
And this is important because I think some of our members
got different information. Um,
Some of us were in a meetings where we were.
Some of us were in a meetings where we were told by the
administration.
that there was an
That there was an internal review.
So are you saying you're not aware?
So are you saying you're not aware if there was an internal
review? What I'm saying is I am not.
review? What I'm saying is I am not aware of an internal
review, but I will get an answer for you through the chair.
Okay, thank you.
Excellent. Um, and I guess the last 1 is just can you just
elaborate a little bit more about like what steps does? The
Chicago Police Department? Take to evaluate and rein.
Chicago Police Department, take to evaluate and reinforce
compliance with the sanctuary City protection.
compliance with the sanctuary City protections, especially
if we know now, they're going to be more of these
interactions where they could be other POS.
interactions where they could be other possible. Scenarios
where we get future.
where we get future calls, you know, like is there going to
be any review about how do we more quickly uh discern
whether or not?
whether or not, uh, an incident requires CPD involvement?
Or
presence? Just like, you know, is there, what? How, how are
you?
you all evaluating this, you know, situation? So again,
ottoman, uh, 1 of the things that we we do.
ottoman, uh, 1 of the things that we we do and is to ensure
that we have supervisors there that are there to make sure
that we are in compliance with our orders.
that we are in compliance with our orders which are based
upon the welcome City or ordinance. So each of these
situations require an escalation to a supervisor
ultimately to that street Deputy who can respond 24 hours
to
To ensure that we're in.
To ensure that we're in compliance, and we simply do not
intervene.
intervene or participate in any civil immigration.
intervene or participate in any civil immigration action.
Thank you very much for answering all.
Thank you very much for answering. All those questions. I'm
going to stop there, but I I just want to say again,
going to stop there, but I I just want to say again that
this conversation is to promote transparency and to
strengthen the relationship between the Chicago Police
Department.
Department and the communities. We all serve any sort of
effort by colleagues of this body or people outside.
effort by colleagues of this body or people outside to try
and muddle this conversation and pollitt.
and muddle this conversation and politicize it. And to say,
what we're doing is eroding public Trust.
what we're doing is eroding public. Trust is Unbecoming of
the leadership that they should hold. What we are doing is
responsible governance, when something
responsible governance. When something like this happens,
it can erode public Trust.
it can erode public trust. And that is why we're here today
as responsible public,
as responsible public servants, who want to make sure that
everyone in our communities feel safe when calling or
interacting with the Chicago Police Department.
very much. Thank you. Thank you.
next, uh, Alder person f
Next uh, Alder person Fuentes.
Thank you. Chairman. Uh,
Thank you. Chairman, uh, Dr. Washington you are circulated
in your statements. That
in your statements that oemc and CPD were in communication
until the conclusion.
until the conclusion of the event. What time did that
communication?
I don't I do not have the exact time that it ended, but I
can get.
can get it through the chair for you as well. Uh, for the
record chairman, I am requesting that a transcript of all 3
call.
calls uh,
given to OMC and
Given to OMC in the transcript of the communication between
oemc and CPD.
oemc and CPD into the conclusion of the event. I'll be
provided.
provided to all members of this committee.
Director Brooks. Um,
Director Brooks, um, in your statements. Uh, and according
to
the ordinance uh and the policies that CPD
to the ordinance, uh, and the policies that CPD are to
follow uh CPD is not to
CPD is not to become involved with any civil immigration.
immigration events. Um, unless there is a criminal activity
that takes place, does that?
that takes place, does that include assault on an elected
official.
official with a deadly weapon by an ice agent.
so, ice agents are
So ice agents are governed by their agency's use.
So ice agents are governed by their agency's use of force.
We have no uh author.
We have no uh, Authority in the Discerning their use of
force.
so for clarity ice agents can come into
so for clarity, ice agents, can come into our community
batter and beats our residents,
batter and beats our residents and we can do nothing.
To be clear the ice.
To be clear. The ice is an independent law enforcement
agency, which is governed by their policies on use of
force. We do not have any jurisdiction regarding their
policies.
ice agents have come into our
Ice agents have come into our communities with mass
sometimes not ident.
sometimes not identifiable and regular vehicles. Uh,
sometimes not identifiable and regular vehicles uh with no
identifiable plates, come in.
no identifiable plates, come in into people's homes and
take members of families. Can residents call 911 and Report
kid.
Report, kidnapping, and if so how to CPD respond.
so again, when ice agents, take
so again when ice agents take action law enforcement
actions, they're governed by their rules as a federal
entity, we do
entity. We do not have the authority and can actually be
charged to interfering with their oper.
charged to interfering with their operations. So they are
independent agency, which is governed by federal law, which
we have no Authority.
Thank you. Director Brooks, the first phone call.
Thank you, director Brooks, the first phone call. Uh to OMC
was made at 206 what time.
was made at 206 what time does CPD arrive.
We'll have to get that through.
We'll have to get that through the chair.
About how long do you believe?
About how long do you believe it took CPD to redeploy
officers to?
officers to across the street?
I, I don't want to spec.
I I don't want to speculate so I would like to get that
through the chair.
To give you the most accurate information.
Uh, chair. I would also like, uh,
Uh, chair. I would also like uh body cam footage to be
provided to members of this.
provided to members of this committee. The time in which
CPD made the call to redeploy.
CPD made the call to redeploy officers across the street
provided to this committee. Um, in addition to the
transcripts between CPD and OMC. So noted
Director Brooks, I was on site that day. Um, I did see you?
Yes, I did. Yeah. And first and foremost, I want to say
that I respect you deeply.
I respect you deeply um not in just this situation but in
many other situations in which you and I have had to work
together to ensure the safety of our public and I want to
assure you that my questions are in no way shape or form.
assure you that my questions are in. No way, shape or form.
A ding on your character, your professionalism.
ding on your character, your professionalism um nice chair
the same with for you. Thank you.
I watched.
I watched different members of CPD, walk in and out.
I watched different members of CPD, walk in and out of the
isap office.
isap office, um, and we were told in a separate meeting
that the office was utilized to sort of a brief
1. Another as different individuals were coming.
1 another as different individuals were coming to the
scene.
At what?
at what point did we understand that this office was being
utilized and in partnership with ice to detain individuals
and when CPD entered the office, did you all bear Witness?
and when CPD entered the office, did you all bear witness
to individuals being detained? Um, and why continue to
utilize that same.
utilize that same space to brief 1. Another on how you were
going to handle the scene.
so otterman, let me uh, share with you my perspective as
So otterman, let me uh share with you my perspective as I
arrived uh on the scene. Uh number 1, there are a number of
Command individuals that were respond.
Command individuals that were responding to this particular
incident. Uh, because we had a situation where we had
people
on both sides of the building. It was the most expedient
route to look at both.
route to look at both sides of the building and make those
assessment was through the building. Uh and that was the
primary reason and that the other command officials.
primary reason and that the other command officials were in
the building as they came. So it wasn't so much that
the building as they came. So, it wasn't so much that what
the ice was in the building. It was to assess the
the ice was in the building, it was to assess the situation
on both exteriors of the building that we were using the
building as a uh, a pathway.
In saying that.
in saying that when the most senior individual,
in saying that when the most senior individual there, uh,
with this case, it would be the chief of patrol made to
determine nation and consultation with the first
determine nation and consultation. With the first Deputy
that this is a civil immigration issue. We are going to
leave this. Not only
leave this not only this premise, but we are going to start
start, uh, releasing IND.
start, uh, releasing individual officers. So there was no
need for them to be there.
when, as we exited the building, there was a
when as we exited the building, there was a large crowd
there and it became apparent that it was spilling onto the
roadway. Um, at rush hour, we then became concerned for
people's Public Safety. And
people's Public Safety and looked at starting to reroute
traffic.
traffic at no time. Was there?
traffic at no time. Was there any? Um
meeting, uh, with ice agents in term of
meeting uh, with ice agents in term of making partnership
or in support of that our
or in support of that. Our only reason for being there was
to assess the public safety, um, risk. At that point.
and,
uh, coming out after concluding the
Uh, coming out after concluding the disinfect was uh, civil
immigration.
civil immigration events, uh, in which ice folks were were
taking individuals from our community. Uh, why was there
not a commanding officer that was tasked with communicating
with the general public to clear?
with the general public to clear sort of cpd's
participation? So
cpd's participation? So I I do recall that we
participation? So, I, I do recall that we did send a deputy
chief to explain.
deputy chief to explain to people that this was an ice
issue and that CPD would
issue, and that CPD would not be participating.
there was a event in which, uh, several
there was a event in which uh, several um individuals have
chosen to uh exercise their first amendment rights.
chosen to uh, exercise their first amendment rights. Uh, we
watched CPD, uh, become
we watched CPD, uh, become keenly involved. Um,
1 officer saying if, if individuals didn't get up, they
were going to be arrested with a countdown.
were going to be arrested with a countdown from 5 to 1.
um,
is it correct that residents can exercise their first?
amendment rights including sit-ins without threat of arrest
on a public way? So Alderman I I want to be clear here
because I think at at this point there's some confusion.
Um, there were a number of law enforcement officials there.
Who
who had police on their vest and had uh, out out out of
where that says, police police. Police is a universal term,
that is used for law enforcement, uh, officers,
Just because somebody was had.
Just because somebody was had that garment on does not mean
they were necessarily CPD.
We did send a CPD. Deputy chief there to explain that this
we did send a CPD deputy chief there to explain that this
is no longer a this is
is no longer a, this is not a um a CPD issue.
is no longer a, this is not a, um, a CPD issue. This is an
Ice immigration issue. Um,
I, we did explain to people that they cannot necessarily.
I, we did explain to people that they cannot necessarily
block the public way where people can no longer move to and
from
We then.
Left the left that area.
and,
We?
we set up to ensure that there was
We set up to ensure that there was no traffic uh dangers.
that was going to impact those people who were expressing
their first amendment. We will always protect people's
right to express their First Amendment, right.
Thank you for that statement. Director Brooks.
Given that there is a tire.
Given that there is a tire, uh, that says police, it's
Universal anyone.
Universal. Anyone can come in and say their police, how is
CP?
CPD articulating to the public? How do
CPD articulating to the public? How to distinguish between
the Chicago Police Department and Ice AG?
the Chicago Police Department and Ice agents that are
coming in with police vests? Yes. So we we spend and 1 of
the reasons we do.
the reasons we do our Outreach, is to make sure people
understand what a Chicago police officer.
understand what a Chicago police officer is and what their
requirements are. All of our officers are required to
identify themselves.
uh,
Uh, we do not have mass officers on on patrol. Um, our
officers are in uniform and anyone who has any doubt of a
Chicago. Police officer can request a
Chicago police officer can request a supervisor either from
that office or call 91.
from that office, or call 911, and say that they are
unsure whether the Chicago police and they can request a
supervisor.
supervisor, and they will respond in a, a marked vehicle.
and to, uh,
to provide clarification.
to provide clarification to that person.
Yeah, I have a follow.
Yeah, I have a follow-up to that question. Um, so I I
completely understand and I think a lot of us do the
difference between
We understand the difference between your police officer
and maybe.
and maybe what currently some of these ice agents. Look
like,
But how does 1 make the determination if an individual who
is neither decides to dress up?
is neither decides to dress up and put on police attire in
a mask on how
a mask on? How does 1 distinguished between somebody
impersonating? A federal agent
impersonating, a federal agent perhaps? And is that
something that CPD has talked to and discussed? Because
there is a fear that you might see somebody out here. Dress
up is even like an ice agent. So how is that confirmed?
So CPD takes very serious. Anyone who wants to impersonate
a law enforcement.
a law enforcement officer uh, as with any 911.
a law enforcement officer, uh, as with any 911 call those
officers responding to a call of an impersonator. Will
begin a preliminary investigation.
begin a preliminary investigation to determine whether that
is a law.
is a law enforcement officer and do they have proper
identification?
Thank you.
Thank you, director Brook.
Thank you, director Brooks uh, for the record. I want to
know.
know that I believe that this deserves an independent
invest.
investigation. I mean there's not even Clarity today.
investigation I mean there's not even Clarity today. If an
internal investigation has been started or has concluded as
it relates to the event on June,
it relates to the event on June 4th. I also want to note
that there's this rhetoric that only uh individuals with
extreme Criminal.
extreme criminal records are being picked up by ice and
deported June 4th.
deported June, 4th is Testament that even those who are
going through a legal process are also being picked up and
kidnapped by Ice, these are individuals
kidnapped by Ice. These are individuals that are the
backbone of our city. Um, immigrant Community has
Been major contributors to the city of Chicago. And what we
are seeing is not only a violation of the welcoming City.
ordinance. It's a violation of many constitutional rights
that despite status people have here in the city of
Chicago.
that despite status people have here in the city of Chicago
and across this country. I hope that we can continue to
count on CPD to be part.
count on CPD to be partners of ours to uphold the welcoming
City or
city ordinance, uh, and to be transparent in this process.
I look forward to any documents and sort of summaries on
what this internal review.
what this internal review has discovered. Um, and I look
forward to hearing.
forward to hearing from both kopa and oig on how an
independent investigation will be conducted.
independent investigation will be conducted uh on the
events that occurred on June 4th, thank you.
events that occurred on June 4th. Thank you chair. Thank
you. You uh, next we have
you, man. Uh, next we have all the women had
Followed by Alter person seicho Lopez.
I'm waiting for the mic to turn on so I can clear my
throat.
Um, thank you chair. Um, thank you.
Um, thank you, chair. Um, thank you. Um uh, for the police.
department and oemc um my colle.
department and oemc. Um my colleagues have answered. I
think all the pertinent questions. I know we have through
the requests coming through the chair. Um, I will, um,
Echo, I think
Echo. I think their sentiment that this would happen on
June 4th does? I think warrant an internal review
uh, I want to add maybe an additional perspective on, why I
think we should have this internal review and it's for our
own protection.
Um, for our own.
Um, for our own protection and for our own operations.
Um, for our own protection and for our own operations, um,
things the stakes couldn't be higher. Um, your departments
are always dealing with high,
are always dealing with high stakes. They're literally deal
with emergencies all the time. Um, and so, I know,
with emergencies all the time. Um, and so I know that, you
know, when council members or community members,
you know, something happens and we're like,
You know, something happens and we're like, no, this is
really urgent. You guys have a slightly different
perspective just on all the stuff you're dealing with.
When?
People were abducted.
people were abducted tricked and abducted on June 4th and
you know, a constituent from from my ward was taken. Um,
you know, a constituent from from my ward was taken. Um and
he wasn't caught up in the the
he wasn't caught up in the, the demonstrations in that
latter part of the day, but had gone in earlier and, um,
only through Community groups who've been supporting his
family that I even know, right? That somebody
family that I even know, right, that somebody was was gone
and sent off to Louisiana, right? Um,
We're being tested. Um, our
we're being tested um our cities being tested and I'm you
know, we've been tested a lot but
Knowing.
Knowing and having this information is so helpful for us.
Um, knowing that you guys have the
um, knowing that you guys have the info knowing that we can
kind of track it down, but
kind of track it down but we need to figure out what our
game plan is for the next time.
game plan is for the next time we're tested and the next
time we're tested and the next time we're tested and and to
me, that's 1 of the, the biggest,
me, that's 1 of the the biggest reasons, right? We've got
the Community Trust, we have some things.
the Community Trust, we have some things that happen that
maybe shouldn't happen. We had a lack of clarity um from
from the public side.
from the public side, maybe even a lack of clarity on
Communications.
Communications because
You guys are.
You guys are being tested with, with your own protocols,
right? When law enforcement agencies, call and request
backup.
backup law enforcement agencies respond with backup.
just, that's what you do. That's your protocol. That's
that's the rule. Um, and so this warrants discussion of
what does it look like when it's a law enforcement agency?
That's gone. Rogue.
Right. Hey, this isn't the ATF, right? This this isn't the
FBI. This isn't a law enforcement partner that you've got a
long history.
a long history with that is working to you know, get
off the street deal with big drug bust, right? Uh capture
you know, people who might be
you know people who might be on a most wanted list like you
know, there was
you know, there was an FBI rate in my community last year
that took in so many weapons. It was wild, right? You guys
have a practice.
have a practice and a protocol and you trust right? You're
trusting that other agency we've been shown.
trusting that other agency, we've been shown that you may
not be able to trust
Right. What this particular Federal?
Right? What this particular Federal agency is doing and
that we may not be able to trust in that some of the, um,
what used to be a fair assumption, right of them, util
what used to be a fair assumption, right? Of them utilizing
law enforcement, because they really needed you.
Um, utilizing our city services because they really need.
Um, utilizing our city services because they really needed
us. Um, and because they were trying to, you know, in good
faith, operate and do
faith operate and do their job. That's not the situation.
We're
we're in anymore. We have an entity and an agency.
we're in anymore. We have an entity and an agency that is
not operating in good faith. That is not.
not operating in good faith. That is not operating within
I'd say, even the bounds of the law, right every day, we're
having to challenge them in court. And, you know, we just
saw last week that this Administration um, got their, you
know,
saw last week that this Administration, um, got their, you
know, weighted Supreme Court to decide that we don't even.
get uh, injunctions that we can safely think.
get uh, injunctions that we can safely think about is
affecting every single person. Nationally, we're really on
our own out here. Um, and so, as our departments that
our own out here. Um and so as our departments that we need
and trust and and have to have operate, um, you guys have
so many rules.
so many rules to follow. And so I know it's hard to think
about like,
think about like another investigation, but that's where
I'm coming from.
here, like, we need to make sure that
Here, like, we need to make sure that you're not exposing
our city.
our city, our constituents, our residents, your department,
your staff.
your staff, your people to things that you're not ready
for. So that's why we need to take a look at this. We need
to look at what we saw happening in Los Angeles.
to look at what we saw happening in Los Angeles and other
cities. Um, they are using our good faith systems and
operations.
operations against our residents. Um, and
operations against our residents, um, and they are suing
our cities.
Right, like they're suing Los Angeles government.
Right? Like they're suing, Los Angeles government and city
council members for doing their jobs.
council members for doing their jobs and protecting their
constituents. And we very
constituents and we very well could be in the same position
and that's why we need to look at kind of all the debt.
of what happened and and look at this internally as a we
are on the same team. What happened? Somebody came into our
city trick.
city tricked. Our constituents. Utilized our
city tricked. Our constituents utilized our systems that
are there to support them in good faith when people
are there to support them in. Good faith when people are in
trouble or in danger and they utilize them.
trouble or in danger and they utilize them against us. They
tried to weaponize our own systems
they tried to weaponize our own systems against us. We
can't let that happen and they're going to
that happen and they're going to try it again. Um, so
that's that's where like, you know, I appreciate the chair
for having this hearing and all the community members and
organizations who were there on.
organizations who were there on June 4th who are there
every day and who came here.
are there every day and who came here to testify. Um, but
every day and who came here to testify. Um, but that's an
angle. I think is very important for you guys to hear.
angle. I think is very important for you guys to hear and
hopefully for the administration to take back of
Like, we all keep getting more work than we have the time.
do, um but I think there's a goal here.
do. Um, but I think there's a goal here for the lessons
learned and perhaps to have to review in in. Look at our
protocols,
protocols because you're just doing your jobs and we don't
need you to inadvertently. Um,
need you to inadvertently um, do something. That would be
violating our welcome in cities ordinance or you know, I'd
say even worse doing something that's putting you know.
say even worse doing something that's putting you know
First Responders and constituents
Um, health and safety in.
um, health and safety in Jeopardy, because we do have these
just situations. We haven't dealt with before the fact that
we have to talk.
we have to talk about.
People who aren't Chicago.
People who aren't Chicago Police that we're having to
engage with on the street.
engage with, on the street. That might be where in
uniforms, that make us think they're Chicago.
uniforms, that make us think they're Chicago Police.
Right. Like that's not good for us.
right, like that's not good for us, that's not good for you
and people are abusing that trust. Um, they're abusing the
trust, so that's
trust so that's, you know,
my my comments there.
my my comments there, I look forward to the answers through
the chair and to working together to make sure like we
collectively as the city of Chicago and all of our
departments.
departments are making sure we are just on guard. Um, and
anticipating some of the tactics that we have not
encountered before.
encountered before that are putting us in Jeopardy. Thank
you.
Thank you.
Um,
as a follow-up to the chair and
As a follow-up to the chair. And I really appreciate your
points about
the abuse of our resources, including
The abuse of our resources including law enforcement. Um,
if do the chair,
if due to the chair, you all you're able to provide any
other Public Safety incidents that might have occurred
within a 2-mile radius at the same time, uh, because
within a 2-mile radius at the same time. Uh, because if
officers are being called to 1, uh, incident because ice
called it, that's resources.
called it, that's resources, that could have gone to other
Public Safety incidents that might have happened in the
area. So if there's any conflict there, just something for
us to know.
us to know, thank you for that. Uh, next up,
We've got all the person sick, Joe Lopez, follow followed by
alderwoman Dow.
by alderwoman Dow.
Thank you.
thank you, chairman Basquez and thank you um, to the
committee members as well and especially to all the
I, I'm terribly sorry. Um,
I I'm terribly sorry. Um as you're a non-member I actually
would have chairwoman Dalgo first and then you my
apologies. That's fine.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman uh, good morning.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, good morning. Thank you for
your presentation. Wanted to ask.
your presentation. Wanted to ask a question. I know that
this is not an isolated incident. Um, and so um I wonder
wandering through the chair, if you could tell me about 3
days,
days ago, my understanding is that there was an incident.
days ago, my understanding is that there was an incident at
uh, Lockwood in Fulton.
That um, involved the detainment.
That, um, involved the detainment of the Haitian. Uh, man.
Where there were police.
Where there were police with supposedly police, that could
listen.
listening to what you said. It may not have been police,
but I would like you all to issue doing this kind of
I would like you all to issue doing this kind of assessment
on what happened in the 2200.
assessment on what happened in the 2200 Block of South
Michigan. If you could also look into the um,
Possible.
Possible event at Fulton and Lockwood. I can share some
video with you. Um,
to make a comparison to see if the protocols hold
To make a comparison to see if the protocols hold for 22nd.
And Michigan.
And Michigan is the same as Fulton and Lockwood. Um,
and I'm wondering if
And I'm wondering if there are any other potential.
Events like this. Um, is there a number? Is it?
1, is it 81? You know?
1 is it 81? You know what, uh, how big is this issue that?
was that you're seeing? That happened on Michigan?
so,
So currently I I'm aware of the Michigan.
So currently I I'm aware of the Michigan Avenue incident
and I'm aware of another incident involving, uh, 2
congressman. Um, we've had reports of other incidents but I
don't, I they're
I don't I they're not as verified as these 2 so we will get
through
get through the chair. Any other incident that we have
regarding, um,
Civil immigration.
civil immigration issues, uh, through the chair and is that
something you?
Do you catalog that?
Do you catalog that in any way? Do you make an assessment
of?
of other potential issues? Not just the ones that are
high-profile. So, we look at
high-profile? So we look at, uh, all the incidents that are
are required. A deputy chief a street, Deputy to
required a deputy chief a street, Deputy to respond to a
particular, uh,
Civil immigration issue. So we do have that and we can
provide that through the chair. Okay,
provide that through the chair. Okay. Thank you. And to you
Mr. Chair. Um, I would like to suggest that we have more
collaborative discussions about um these kinds of issues.
because this is not an issue that just affects um,
Latino.
Latino and Mexicans and Venezuelans. Um, I believe in that
incident on Michigan.
incident on Michigan, there was a man from Cameroon. That
was, uh, detained, um, and then there's the issue that
was, uh, detained. Um, and then there's the issue that I
just heard about regarding the incident with the Haitian.
just heard about regarding the incident with the Haitian
individual. And I think that we need to have a little more.
collaborative discussion around this. Thank you. Yes. Uh,
thank you. I agree. Fully. I
Abs.
Absolutely as a follow-up. Um, because you did ask.
Absolutely as a follow-up. Um because you did ask for CPD
about any incidents I would say.
about any incidents. I would say similarly from oemc if
there were similar calls about any other incidents that
might have been similar,
might have been similar in uh, scenario to see what OMC
might have had. Um, also request that through the chair.
Um, I
I think what I'm learning uh as we all are.
Um, I think what I'm learning, uh, as we all are here is
we're just talking about 1 incident,
we're just talking about 1 incident where we don't really
have Clarity on. What occurred, what reviews,
have Clarity on. What occurred, what reviews are happening
and exactly stated there are multiple of these. So I think
we have to look at more than just an order about 1 incident
that
incident, that occurred and really establish. What our
Protocols of council.
Protocols of council looks like to have multiple
conversations about all these and how we all collaborate,
it might be that similar to the legal.
it might be that similar to the legal settlement.
And regular briefings that some kind of model.
and regular briefings that some kind of model for that
communication, for all the incidents that are happening,
might be um, adequate. So thank you very much for that.
might be, um, adequate. So, thank you very much for that
suggestion. Uh, and definitely looking to partner uh, and
then next uh Alderman uh, 6el Lopez
Thank you, chairman BAS.
thank you, chairman Basquez and thank you to the committee
members and everybody who came here my gratitude for all.
the um,
Community members.
Community members across the city that continue to help
with rapid.
with rapid response teams that continue to help and care
for their neighbors.
When on federal government.
When on federal government is terrorizing or immigrant
communities.
Um,
I was present.
I was present in the June, 4th.
I was present in the June 4th, um, shameful incident in
I was present in the June 4th um shameful incident in in
our city and I want to just elevate
our city and I want to just Elevate the stories of what
actually trans.
actually transpired on that day.
when, and
when and I'm also want to thank
when, and I'm also want to thank Mayor Johnson for having
his team present,
his team present that day.
and as he mentioned,
And as he mentioned this was, this was a setup.
And as he mentioned, this was, this was a setup and there
were human traps.
Set.
set up for families, who attended a
Set up for families who attended a administrative hearing.
And ended up being detained.
in a hysto style operation by
In a hysto style operation by masked men.
Without a identification.
And that needs to be condemned.
At every level of government.
There was a mother.
Who did not?
who did not even had the opportunity to talk to her
attorney because attorneys were turned away.
At 2 year old child. Now without a mother.
and no way even to
And no way even to have a guardianship formed sign.
Because of his stop with style oper.
Because of his stop with style operations in her own City.
there was
There was a middle child. A middle school, child.
There was a middle child, a middle school child, that just
have come out from his graduation.
and then it was in between the crowd crying because her
mother
had been taken away again.
had been taken away again in a hizpo style operation.
And this is not a time of fear.
Neither a time to turn on each other.
This is a time to act.
This is a time to act as we speak.
the Senate just passed a bill that is going to give the
The Senate just passed a bill that is going to give the
federal government, another 350 billion.
federal government, another 350 billion dollars.
To terrorize our community.
To terrorize, immigrant resident.
To terrorize immigrant residents and destructors from the
real crimes.
Committed.
Take Medicare away from Seniors and people.
Take Medicare away from Seniors and people who need it.
Millions of people, we're going to be left.
Millions of people, we're going to be left with a medical
care.
Food stamps, housing. Public, educ.
Food stamps, housing, public education.
Meantime, we are here.
Meantime, we are here discussing.
Why families?
Why families were turned apart.
and I,
And I can't, I have far, I have find it.
Irresponsible.
Remarks.
Remarks made.
By the governor.
When he says that protocols.
When he says that protocols were followed.
I urge every elected official.
To pause.
To pause under comments.
before making such
Before making such an statement as we can see here.
Before making such an statement, as we can see here. That
clear. Discrepancies on what happened that.
clear, discrepancies on what happened that day.
My first question in.
My first question in this line.
is when there are irregularities
like,
like this morning, we also had a report how
Has fabricated.
Warrants after the fact.
Warrants. After the fact, I never shown words.
So I have 2 questions here first.
Has CPD.
Asked for a warrant.
On June 4th because this is not the first instance.
We before that in our community.
We before that in our community, January 29th, we had a
detention in our community.
detention in our community in Little Village and then in
June 2nd.
June 2nd, there was another Detention of 2 workers in our
neighborhood.
no warrants were
No warrants were provided.
an ice came out later to say,
That they actually had the warrants.
that they actually had the warrants but they did not show
them and now there's a
them. And now there's a lawsuit showing how Fourth
Amendment rights
rights were violated.
25 people in our in our state.
1 already has been deported. And another 1 is still in
detention, and let me tell you,
detention, and let me tell you what's happening in this
detention facilities,
There are already people at least 13.
There are already people at least 13, people who have died
in ice custody.
in ice, custody 13, people.
There's also 6.
There's also 6 911 calls by women who are reporting sexual.
There's also 6 911 calls by women who are reporting sexual
abuse and sexual rape as well.
so what we ask in the Chicago Police Department,
is to make sure that we follow the process, how people
is to make sure that we follow the process. How people are
getting take away from their families without a warrant.
getting take away from their families without a warrant by
masked men without identification.
So we are when they're discrepancies 1.
so we are when they're discrepancies, 1, are we asking them
even if and I have
even if? And I I find hard to believe that CPD didn't know
that.
that they were going to a nice facility
but we can discuss and we should investigate that I
But we can discuss and we should investigate that I take
issue with the governor's comment.
because that that easy responsible to get ahead of an
investigation. Who does an investigation is the question.
here?
is a Coppa or is Inspector General because someone needs to
investigate that
And this is here, the Inspector General. And I asked
And this is here, the Inspector General and I asked you
publicly and the other thing and I I agree.
publicly and the other thing and I I agree with all the
women dowel, we must have more regular hearings here.
women dowel, we must have more regular hearings here and
we're regular meetings. And I urge you chairman Vas
we're regular meetings. And I urge you, chairman Vasquez,
there has been only 1 hearing since the Trump
Administration.
Administration came into office. This is the second 1. Are
we owe?
we owe a better to the city of Chicago and better to our
constituents. So my question to the Inspector, General and
CPD.
CPD, who is going to conduct investigation. When
CPD, who is going to conduct investigation when they are
discrepancies.
Thank you otterman. Uh,
Thank you otterman, uh, on behalf of CPD our investigative.
investigative body is the Bureau of internal affairs. When
there's any uh,
Report of any, any irregular.
Report of any, any irregularity, regarding a CPD member, it
goes to Bia.
goes to Bia except for those that are outlined in the OR
Orden.
ordinance that which go to Coppa. Uh that is
ordinance that which go to Coppa. Uh, that is their
investigative body for CPD.
My understanding is that coupa has not taken on.
My understanding is that coupa has not taken on this. And I
I think that Inspector General also usually, just take
I think that Inspector General also usually just take non
CPD related complaints. But if
non CPD related complaints, but someone has to investigate
this and maybe the Inspector General can give some clarity.
Certainly, thank you. Um, thank you for the question
Alderman. Chairman good afternoon. Thank you for having us.
Um, I at risk of jumping ahead a little bit. Uh, chairman
if it's okay with you, I'll just speak to this to this
question now. Um,
question now, um, investigating individual allegations of
question now. Um, investigating individual allegations of
misconduct are, is 1 of the ways in which the
city ordinance, might with the work of the office of in.
Inspector General. Um. And and they're I think 2
Inspector General. Um, and and there, I think 2 categories
to be mindful of their
The.
The welcoming city ordinance specifically says that
complaint.
complaints of misconduct against non CPD city employees for
potential violations of the welcoming city ordinance would
come to oig important to note.
come to oig important to note there that the Chicago Police
Department is not the only city.
Department is not the only city agency which is regulated
by the welcoming city ordinance. The welcoming city
ordinance for example, specific
ordinance, for example, specifically, enables The
Corporation Council, the city's Law Department to
investigate people's immigration status.
Um, and so allegations that that might have been done.
Um and so allegations that that might have been done in
properly, those would come to oig, that's explicit in the
ordinance.
With respect to complaints against the Chicago Police
Department.
Department for potential violations.
Um, I I'm trying to be mindful here, frankly of
Um, I I'm trying to be mindful here frankly of both the
plain language of the ordinance and oig's role on the
police oversight landscape. So when it comes to the plain
language of the ordinance, as we just talked about, it says
that non CPD complaints of violations of the welcoming city
ordinance. Come to oig I'm inclined to
ordinance. Come to oig, I'm inclined to think that if it
meant that all complaints of of violations of the ordinance
came to us, it would say that instead
Um, with respect to our role on the oversight landscape.
we ask the taxpayers of the city of
We ask the taxpayers of the city of Chicago to pay for and
we asked CPD members.
we asked CPD members to navigate an eye.
we asked CPD members to navigate an eye-popping array of
oversight agencies. That very
oversight agencies that very crowded landscape only works
if we all
If we all play our positions, that is to say we all do all
of the things.
of the things which are our jobs and none of the things,
which are somebody else.
which are somebody else's job.
So, I'm trying to be mindful of of both.
so, I'm trying to be mindful of of both of those things,
but let me say this all
let me say this, all of that aside,
um,
all of us in the business of account.
all of us in the business of accountability ought to have a
very low tolerance.
very low tolerance for buck passing.
And I am.
And I am without qualification or reservation.
And I am without qualification or reservation committed to
ensuring that there is an investigation.
ensuring that there is an investigation of this incident,
which is complete thorough.
which is complete thorough objective and fair. And we will
do that in 1 of 2 ways. If either the Bureau of internal
affairs or Coppa conducts, an investigation of this
incident, we will pursue it to our statutory authority to
do so
do. So review that investigation to make sure that it is
sufficient and we will send it back if we find that it's
not
if neither of the Cities,
if neither of the city's 2 purposes built agencies for
invest,
investigating police misconduct investigations.
See their way clear to investigate this in.
See their way clear to investigate this incident. We will
do it ourselves.
Thank you. Thank you Spectre General. I think that it
Thank you. Thank you Spectre General, I think that it is
important. As you said that we can
important as you said that we cannot pass the bucket.
There's really not 1 to pass it.
There's really not 1 to pass it too.
Because the federal government is, is, is
Because the federal government is is, is is, is in, um,
Is.
Is laser focused on terrorizing immigrant communities.
is laser focused on terrorizing immigrant communities and I
think in our city and I hope
In many more, I think Public Safety.
In many more I think Public Safety should be for everybody.
This is not making anybody.
This is not making anybody safer when we see.
Mask individual impersonating.
Even.
Even agents in other cities and raping women.
Is in that terrorism.
And the other thing that I I would like to ask,
And the other thing that I I would like to ask is the thing
that the urgency of collaboration.
that the urgency of collaboration at the state level. Um, I
think that, you know,
think that you know, is is and I am grateful that we have
that Clarity on making sure that this will be investigated,
so, or welcome,
So, or welcoming city laws that follow for the safety of
all,
all constituents, this is not making anyone safe. And I
tell you that my concern is that we are following.
tell you that my concern is that we are following asleep in
the time where the federal government is moving.
the time where the federal government is moving quickly.
What we saw on Jan on June,
What we saw on Jan on June 4th is going to be normalized.
I'm afraid.
And this is the time to work together. Not passing the
bucket.
bucket but actually working in conjunction. So my next
question, I know that many people on the on the, on the
Uh, on the box.
Other states already looking. And I think my frustration
with the council is have not been acting swiftly.
with the council is have not been acting swiftly to make
sure that we condemn and we don't allow Pride boys.
sure that we condemn and we don't allow Pride, boys and
extremists to operate in our city.
And our state, these are the people who impersonate it.
These are the people who terrorizing our communities.
and I tell you that already the state of California,
And I tell you that already, the state of California is
looking in Banning.
Masks rates.
Masks rates and requiring agents.
To identify them.
To identify themselves.
a thing that Chicago Police Department has a
A thing that Chicago Police Department has a duty.
To protect all constituents.
To protect all constituents when there's no warrant, when
the mask individuals.
the mask individuals impersonating possibly
Agencies.
And the other 1 I think is the nobility.
And the other 1 I think is the nobility act as well.
I 1, I urge us.
I 1, I urge us to look into extremism. We just saw how
extremists took the life of 2 firefighters
in a clear attempt.
in a clear attempt to terrorize.
Or country.
But yet, we fail.
but yet, we fail to act on those instances and we continue
to criminalize and dehumanize immigrants must of them.
Without a criminal record.
By many.
By many independent studies. So I would like to ask how can
we collaborate at the city county and state level?
we collaborate at the city county and state level to ensure
that we don't allowed this in human?
that we don't allowed this inhumanity to come to our state
and our city.
Swiftly, and urgently before.
Swiftly and urgently. Before these 350 billion dollars,
come to create more detention centers without oversight.
eyesight facilities, that have no oversight.
eyesight facilities that have no oversight. And I want to
ask and I urge the the chair as well to conduct more
intergovernmental is the
Intergovernmental is, the state is missing here? Is there
anybody from the state of Illinois?
uh yeah, I'll answer
Uh yeah, I'll answer that we communicate with them regularly
we do.
regularly. We do know your rights, we have meetings and
briefings, uh, the city council.
briefings, uh, the city council as we've done. But while
they're not here, uh, because the city council.
they're not here, uh, because the city councils can't
compel another body of government to come. We do this
regularly. We do not, I have I I
regularly, we do not, I have I I have a hearing coming up.
We have a state representative coming to talking about,
We have a state representative coming to talking about some
efforts in the city, I urge us again. Look,
efforts in the city. I urge us. Again, look, if it's the
governor, the mayor, the president, everybody,
the mayor, the president everybody needs the security. And
this moment,
security and this moment in time. So I urge, I think this
is a big part missing here.
is a big part missing here because the state also has to
pass laws to help us.
laws to help us. So I think like if there's anyone in the
Box
the box that can help us and can answer this, what?
the box that can help us and can answer this, what can we
do? I think I sir had a whole document of things.
do? I think I sir had a whole document of things asking,
not only of the city, the county, and the state, and the
thing.
thing that we need a commitment to work to protect people
We cannot allow the humanity. What's happening again? It's
not only.
not only our Latino Community immigrant community.
50000000 and affordable as well. This is an issue that
pertains everybody. This should be an issue for everybody
in the city to work with. And I just don't feel that
urgency.
yeah, I I think a follow-up on that question because I know
there was a whole investigation related to CPD oathkeepers
I believe.
I believe the IG kept compelling the city and CPD to
actually act on it and the city itself didn't act on it.
But I
but I could be wrong if the Inspector General wants to
illuminate for us.
Uh, sure. We
Uh, sure we um, I I mentioned a few minutes ago.
uh sure we um I I mentioned a few minutes ago our statutory
authority to review closed police
authority to review closed. Police misconduct
investigations conducted by Coppa and the Bureau of
internal affairs. Um chairman I think the case you're
referring to is is a is 1 in which we reviewed an
investigation conducted by the Bureau of internal affairs
into allegations that a CPD member had associated with the
proud boys. Um in that and a
proud boys um in that and a series of other investigations
into allegations of extremist.
investigations into allegations of extremist associations
within the police department, we found material
deficiencies in
police department, we found material deficiencies in those
investigations, we recommended that they be reopened.
was a range of outcomes, um, in those investig,
was a range of outcomes, um, in those investigations, none
of them repres, none of them resulting in the
of them repres. None of them resulting in the separation of
of any CPD members, um, at the
the, we issued a recommendation to the office of the mayor
that the mayor convene a task force of
that the mayor convene, a task force of of Criminal Justice
agencies within and without
agencies within, and without city government to address
issues of extremism in law.
issues of extremism and law enforcement. Um, I would defer
to the mayor's office on the question of whether there's
been any progress made on that recommendation.
For the record just for clarification. I recalled.
For the record just for clarification. I recalled that. And
you correct Veronica the mayor's office.
you correct Veronica the mayor's office declined, the task
force or did they not
um,
Um, in in its response to our recommendation.
um in in its response to our recommendation uh in our in its
response to our our letter last summer. That's right. The
mayor's office.
mayor's office declined uh at the time.
mayor's office declined. Uh, at the time again I won't
speak for the mayor's office here. My understanding is that
for the mayor's office here. My understanding is that a, a
working group of sorts has since been
Working group of sorts has, since been convened, not
specific to policing, but looking at, EXT.
specific to policing but looking at extremism and
government. More generally, I don't believe there has been
any public reporting out of that effort. Okay, thank you
and I agree with you.
And I agree with you, uh, to your statement as far as the
governor's comments and absence of any investigation to
outright say that,
outright say that everything was done correctly, it's just
inappropriate.
inappropriate and incorrect, uh, especially in, finding out
that there may or may not have been an internal review. Uh,
so I think there's a lot of work to be done as it relates
to the municipal code and health.
to the municipal code and healthkeepers. I am more than
happy to partner to force the city to take action on its
own police force related to oathkeepers so we can, um, have
some effect on the level of government. We do have say in,
as well as partner with you to, uh, figure out what could
be done at the state and
done at the state and federal level knowing the limitations
as well, but happy to partner. So thank you.
as well, but happy to partner. So thank you for that. Thank
you. And I think I don't know if deputy mayor
gate would because we've been working in that on that I
actually introduced the rez.
actually introduced a resolution. So Deputy Mayor. Maybe
you can add to that. Absolutely.
you can add to that. Absolutely, so thank you. That's
allow, hold on, let me pull. Uh, so thank you.
allow, hold on, let me pull. Uh, so thank you for the
opportunity.
To talk about this in particular. So,
To talk about this in particular. So after the
recommendation from the oig we did, in fact, pull together
an extremism, task force, that task.
an extremism task force. That task force includes the
Department of Human Resources, the Chicago Police.
Department of Human Resources, the Chicago Police
Department. Um, it also includes
Department. Um it also includes uh several other agencies.
It Is co-led by
agencies. It Is co-led by myself and Carla coupe, the chief
of equity, our chief equity.
of equity, our chief Equity officer. Um, we also reached
out to the oig's office. Uh, they declined to be a part of
it, because they
it because they want to have the oversight and they should
because we are separate bodies. So there's a line of
communication near the reason that we're not only looking.
at law enforcement, is because we do have other issues.
that impact, um, people's safety across the entire
impact, um, people's safety across the entire city. An
example would be what just happened. In Douglas Park,
example would be what just happened. In Douglas Park a
couple of days ago, with a Park employee. So I think it's
important.
important that we highlight every level of this work and
the reason that we're digging in to look across all City
agencies,
agencies is because regardless of where you work you
shouldn't have.
shouldn't have extremist ties, you shouldn't have a racist
bone in your body when you work for the city of Chicago, we
are going to present those findings.
From the internal.
From the internal working group to the mayor to the
superintendent and other folks. And then we, because we
also working with CCPA on this, they will then take those
findings and share them publicly, and we will build out
that work from there. So that work has been ongoing, and it
will continue to be ongoing and again,
will continue to be ongoing. And again, the reason that we
needed to look at beyond the Chicago,
needed to look at beyond the Chicago Police Department is
because if you have issues in any Department,
we should be able to Route those out and
We should be able to Route those out and address those as a
unit. So yeah, we've begun that work.
unit. So, yeah. We've begun that work, um, and we expect to
have those results shown to the mayor and other leaders and
then move on beyond that.
and then move on beyond that. I appreciate that. I think
it's in light of even the park district and the story about
the Lifeguard. We've got concerns
about the Lifeguard. We've got concerns that need to be
investigated there as well. Is there a timeline as to when
uh any of the findings will be presented to either? Uh, May
uh, any of the findings will be presented to either mayor's
office members of the council? Yeah, we're actually working
on.
on scheduling those findings scheduling, a time to present
those findings to the mayor and uh, other department.
those findings to the mayor and, uh, other department
heads. So we can move forward on those additional steps.
Uh, I I would be wrong if I tell you, I know the date off.
the top of my head. I have to ask my team and we can get
back to you on that. With the important pieces. People
should know that. That work is not only
should know that that work is not only going forward, but
we're not only looking at 1 Department because
we're not only looking at 1 Department. Because again, as
you mentioned what happened in Douglas Park should be on
the top of all of our minds because there shouldn't be a
time where young black kids are going to a park and they
killed. So it's important that we look at every agency
in the city of Chicago, and that's a part of the work that
In the city of Chicago. And that's a part of the work that
we're doing. And that's a part of the work that we've been
leading. Thank you.
leading. Thank you very much. Deputy Mayor Gatewood. Um,
right now, we'll be calling. Oh, sorry. I let me just, I, I
just want to end and I thank you. I think it's important
that we have the clarity in terms of the next steps on
Investigation. I'm grateful and I,
Investigation. I'm grateful and I want to thank, um,
everybody who's here for the speed of collaboration again.
This is, uh,
this is, uh, eroding the trust in law enforcement. I think
that is the Trump play.
that is the Trump Playbook to divide and conquer and I just
want to add that
uh, just end with the Judge Sotomayor, Supreme Court Judge
uh,
eloquently and set a very clearly under the Trump
Administration. There's No 1 safe, absolutely.
Administration. There's No 1 safe. Absolutely, no 1. This
is crushing, not only the Immigrant Community is Crush.
is crushing, not only the Immigrant Community is crushing
dissent and is installing a dict.
dissent, and is installing a dictatorship. In the white
house. We must act swiftly with integrity and
collaboration. Urgently I want to thank every level of
government to come together and protect all constituents
urg.
urgently today in the city of Chicago and the state of
Illinois, thank you very much.
Illinois. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
Uh,
We will be taking.
we will be taking uh uh a 3 minute recess back at 12.
We will be taking uh uh a 3 minute recess back at 12:35 at
that point. We will have the uh, office Inspector General
and Coppa up here. I want to thank uh,
and Coppa up here. I want to thank, uh, director Brooks and
Dr. Washington for your help, and, uh, we'll get
Dr. Washington for your help and uh, we'll get thank you.
Thank you, cheer.
When did the bathroom was back?
Sorry, it's my I've been going to the gym. Me, and you, you
know, all right.
know. All right. Uh everyone we are back.
Uh, thank you so much. Uh, now as we reconvene, we have the
office of the inspector
the office of the Inspector General, as well as, uh, Copa.
here, um, before we get to them, just
here. Um, before we get to them, just to read off everyone,
that's in the Box. Should anyone have questions for anyone?
in the box? We have Deputy Mayor be Leon from the office of
immigrant migrant Refugee Rights.
Uh, we have Angie Snell acting general counsel for Copa
Uh, we have Angie, Snell acting general counsel for Copa,
um, Mary and mckiever assistant, director of 911.
um, Mary and mckiever assistant, director of 911 operations
for oemc. Uh, uh, uh, Michael milstein as we heard from
before I believe,
before, I believe might be still, it may. Okay. Uh, Depp
before, I believe might be still it may, okay, uh, deputy
director office of equity and engagement and office of
victim Services, CP
victim, Services CPD. Um, and with us,
victim, Services CPD. Um, and with us right now we have
Inspector General, Deborah witzburg. Uh, um, as well as
interim, Chief administrator, uh, Lina White.
interim, Chief administrator, uh Lina white. So, uh, first
we will hear from the Inspector General.
Good afternoon again, chairman. Thank you.
Good afternoon again. Chairman, thank you for having us.
Um, I I'll be brief here and and much of what I have to
say. I I said and answer to to Alderman's sexual Lopez's
question but but I
question, but but I want to talk briefly about the ways in
which the work of the office of Inspector General touches
on the welcoming city ordinance. I think.
on the welcoming city ordinance. I think that there are 4
ways that that might happen. The first is that we might
conduct program.
conduct programmatic review of the programs and operations
of various City departments as they relate to the welcoming
city ordinance. For example, our Public Safety section has
a
Proposed.
Proposed project. We have not launched that project but we
have a proposed project.
have a proposed project looking at things like policies.
And
trainings and and controls around.
trainings and and controls around uh, to welcoming city
ordinance, compliance, Etc. So that's the first
ordinance. Compliance, Etc. So, that's the first way that
we might touch on this, is that kind of programmatic work.
um, the second touch point we have is that the welcoming
city ordinance requires and chairman you mentioned this
earlier, the, the, the Orden,
earlier, the, the the ordinance requires that CPD on a
quarterly basis produce data reflecting, how often it
receives out
receives Outreach from immigration authorities, um, and
reports certain data, the ordinance requires that we
publish that data.
publish that data and so we do we don't otherwise interact
with or validate or assess that data we simply post it.
with or validate or assess that data we simply post it on
our website in accordance with the ordinance. So
kind of the second touch point.
The Third.
the third is that, as I mentioned a few minutes ago,
pursuant to our Public Safety sections, regular powers and
duties. We would, we would review any investig
duties. We would we would review any investigation
conducted by the Bureau of internal affairs or by Coppa
into allegations that CPD members had violated the
welcoming City
welcoming city ordinance. And if we found a deficiency
material,
materially affecting the outcome of any of those
investigations we would recommend
investigations, we would recommend that. They be reopened
according again to our regular procedures and duties.
um, and then finally, the fourth I think
um, and then finally the fourth, I think potential touch
Point um, between
Point, um, between our work and the welcoming city
ordinance would be to investigate allegations of misconduct
by city employees. And and
by city employees and and at risk of repeating myself.
I'll, I'll be brief here, but I just want to kind of
writer.
reiterate the 2, the 2 ways I think there are to think
about,
about that the first has to do with allegations against non
CPD City actors, as I mentioned a few minutes.
CPD City actors, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, there
are other potential City actors that
other potential City actors that issue here. Chairman you
mentioned oemc. Um the welcoming City or that that is a
possibility, the welcoming City.
possibility. The welcoming city ordinance again also
specifically allows the Law Department, the city's Law
Department to investigate immigration status
um, and so if there were allegations
Um, and so if there were allegations that that were done in
properly, those would come. Those would come to oig. So
that's kind of 1 category.
The second is, is all.
the second is, is allegations of misconduct against CPD
members and I will say again,
members and I will say again I appreciate the indulgences
to repeat myself here. Um, the city has 2 agencies that are
built and budgeted for the purposes of investigating
allegations.
allegations of police misconduct that is Coppa and the
Bureau of internal affairs. We have a crowded police
oversight landscape here in Chicago. We ask taxpayers to
pay for those agencies we asked CPD members, to kind of
navigate the existence of of many acronyms here. Many
oversight agencies. Um, I am candidly not
oversight agencies. Um, I am candidly, not sure that the
best read of the plain language of the welcoming city.
Ordinance is to suggest that police misconduct
investigations around this issue, come to oig.
The ordinance says that non CPD investigations.
The ordinance says that non CPD investigations come to us. I
think that if it meant that all of them come to us, it
would say that um, nonetheless the highest priority here
seems to me to be accountability and transparency. Um, and
ensuring the public facing legitimacy of government
operations.
operations around this and all of the other High.
operations around this, and all of the other high-stakes
matters, um, in which Chicagoans depend so tremendously on
the trustworthiness and accountability of their government
and so leaving.
All of that, aside my highest.
All of that, aside my highest and and my all of our highest
commitments here.
commitments here, ought to be ensuring accountability
around the event.
the events of June 4th and any similar ones that take
place. And so um we will do that. Oig.
place. And so um we will do that. Oig will ensure that this
in this in
this in this incident is investigated in a way, which is
complete thorough objective and fair.
complete thorough objective and fair, and we will do that
either by reviewing.
either by reviewing any investigation conducted by the
Bureau of internal affairs or by cop.
Bureau of internal affairs or by Coppa. Um and if neither
of those agencies neither of the
of those agencies, neither of the 2 agencies, the city has
built to investigate allegations of police.
built to investigate allegations of police misconduct, find
themselves able to conduct that.
themselves able to conduct that investigation. We will do
it ourselves.
Thank you very much. Uh, and
uh, next we will go to Lena, white chief White, uh,
Uh, next we will go to Lena, white chief White, uh, interim
Chief administrator for Copa.
Thank you.
Good afternoon. Chairman Vasquez, Vice chair Taylor.
Good afternoon. Chairman Vasquez, Vice chair, Taylor and
members of city council. My name is Lena White.
members of city council. My name is Lena white and I serve
as the interim Chief administrator.
as the interim Chief administrator of the civilian office
of police accountability. Kopa
I am joined today by acting general counsel, Angie Snell.
We?
We prepared a brief slash show to walk you through
Copper's, understand.
understanding.
of our investigative Authority, as
Of our investigative Authority as it relates to the
welcoming city ordinance wco.
And how that intersects with?
And how that intersects with copas brought a mission next
slide.
Thank you.
By way.
By way of background.
Coupa has received 2 complaints.
Coupa has received 2 complaints alleging members of the
Chicago Police Department.
Chicago Police Department had assisted federal agents and
immigration.
immigration enforcement activities that took place on.
immigration enforcement activities that took place on June
4th.
We promptly.
we promptly launched a preliminary investigation, and
determined that none of the allegations failed Within.
determined that none of the allegations failed within copas
investigative jurisdiction.
Which are Outland on the PowerPoint.
Next slide.
Copas intake unit is highly trained.
Copas intake unit is highly trained and recognizing
allegations.
And making requisite jurisdictional jurisdictional dterm.
determinations.
in instances, where
In instances where Copa does not have jurisdiction.
The municipal.
The municipal code requires that such complaints be
referred to the bureau.
referred to the Bureau of internal affairs, which is the
Bia
in accordance with this requirement, we refer
In accordance with this requirement, we referred the
complaints to Bia.
Copa is bound by both the consent decree obligations.
Copa is bound by both the consent decree obligations and
internal protocols to make Juris.
internal protocols to make jurisdictional determinations
within 3 days.
However,
recogn.
Recognizing the public concern?
And Pollock.
And policy, sensitivity surrounding these allegations.
Copa initiated internal discussions.
Copa initiated internal discussions on how best to handle
such cases.
Ultimately, we determined that.
For reasons, our detail in the moment.
The office of Inspector, General is the most appropriate
body.
body to investigate alleged violations of the
body to investigate alleged violations, of the wco, given
the current legislative landscape.
Accordingly cop.
Accordingly Copa contacted Bia, on June 13th.
And requested the return of the cases. So we
and requested the return of the cases, so we could formally
re-referred them to the, I
re-referred them to the IG where they now remain.
And this is not to pass the buck.
because,
Because we are committed.
And we do not want.
And we do not want to erode public Trust.
Next slide.
The wco provides that alleged violations.
the wco provides that alleged violations, involving CPD
members must be forwarded to Coppa.
however,
the ordinance does not assign cope with the duty.
the ordinance does not assign cope with the duty to
investigate those complaints.
Only to receive them.
this aligns with copas established role as
This aligns with copas established role as a clearing house
for all complaints against.
for all complaints against CPD members,
even if Copa,
even if Copa is not the final investigation of authority,
The absence of any refer.
The absence of any reference to wco violations in the
section.
section of the municipal code defining copas.
section of the municipal code, defining copas investigative
Authority, further supports our intake units, conclusion
that we do not have Juris
that we do not have jurisdiction to investigate these
allegations next slide,
Additionally.
Paragraph 46.
Paragraph 466. Other consent, decree.
Paragraph 466. Other consent decree instructs that City
disciplinary agency should avoid investigations. That could
present a conflict of interest.
Because wco.
Because wco violations. May involve Department departmental
Pollock.
policy at the highest levels.
Culpa determined that investigating such matters. Could
create a real or perceived conflict.
This is consistent with our prior handling of alleg.
This is consistent with our prior handling of allegations
involving high ranking officials. Next slide,
Avoiding conflicts of interest.
Combined with the reasons outlined on the slide above.
led us to conclude that the oig is the
Led us to conclude that the oig is the most appropriate
agency to conduct these investig.
agency to conduct these investigations.
Next slide.
Finally.
I,
I want to acknowledge the concerns and frustrations.
Expressed by members of this body.
Expressed by members of this body and the public.
Regarding how this matter?
Regarding how this matter has been handled.
I understand those.
I understand those concerns.
I want to assure you that.
I want to assure you, that ensure you that copas actions
were Guided by a careful reading.
Of the law.
Adher.
adherence to historical practice and
most importantly.
A commitment to achieving.
Fair, ingest outcomes.
We are here today not to obstruct progress.
But to support it.
I welcome your feedback.
and any legislative,
And any legislative clarifications that might make this
process more transparent.
process more transparent and effective.
Thank you.
Thank you chairman Vasquez and members of the committee I
look forward.
look forward to your questions. Yeah thank you very much. I
think um,
Kind of similarly to what we saw related.
Kind of similarly to what we saw related to CPD and
incidents because we haven't seen incidents like this
before. We're finding different points where clarification?
before. We're finding different points. Where clarification
is needed. Um, I think I have a couple questions.
is needed. Um, I think I have a couple questions that will
open up to members
so,
As it relates, I'm going to go back a couple slides.
As it relates, I'm going to go back a couple slides
potentially to look at. Um,
when you're looking at the different complaints, if it's
CPD, uh, and you view yourself as not view yourself, but
CPD. Uh, and you view yourself as not view yourself, but it
says as a clearing house, right? As articulated, is that
the same for cases that are not welcoming City. Or
same for cases that are not welcoming city ordinance
related. Meaning, somebody calls with a complaint about CPD
in general. Do you then, either
in general, do you then either decide to take it on or say,
this isn't us and pass it off. If it is a
this isn't us and pass it off? If it is a CPD matter. Yes,
we take all complaints. So
we take all complaints, so even if it doesn't stay with us,
it might go to Bia. It might
it might go to Bia, it might go to another sister agency.
They might go to a totally different governmental agency.
We take all complaints,
We take all complaints in and then we refer them to the
appropriate Bodies. Okay? Um,
You mentioned the conflict of interest?
You mentioned the conflict of interest. And so I'm trying to
get clarity on what the conflict.
get clarity on what the conflict of interests that you
believed was.
believed was the the conflict here.
So, I'm going to refer.
So, I'm going to refer that to my um, acting general
counsel.
Hi, Angie Snell. Um yeah so a few things
Hi, Angie Snell. Um, yeah, so a few things, um, first, um,
consistent with historical practice.
consistent with historical practice, uh coupa has referred
uh allegations against high ranking, members of the police
department. Uh,
department uh, to oig and oig has in certain cases,
accepted those referrals, um, because of copas Co close
working.
relationship with certain High, those high ranking
officials, it may create an
officials. It may create an appearance of the conflict of
interest which we have a duty to avoid. Um,
interest which we have a duty to avoid, um also the
complaints that we've received so far. Um,
complaints that we've received so far, um, seemed to
implicate a, it seemed to allege a misuse of CPD resources,
um, which again is
Um, which again is is a kind of a high level policy, level
decision that would again be more appropriately handled um
by an an external body. So if I understand it correctly,
because it may be a policy matter. Not a complaint for an
individual officer. You view
individual officer, you view it and say that should
potentially go to oig. I think the question.
potentially go to oig. I think the question to follow up is
Is there Clarity or somewhere written about?
Is there Clarity or somewhere written about the high ranking
officers and what rank we're talking about?
officers? And what rank we're talking about? No, that's
made. We do not currently. Um, it is. Um,
Situations of the person who we're talking about. Um, so
it's a discretion.
it's a discretionary matter that we, we, we consider on a
Case by case basis,
Case by case basis. So, in this matter,
Were there specific?
Were there specific complaints about specific high ranking
officers and their rank?
To help determine what rank they were. And why that was a
conflict. Because there, I guess my question is, uh, you've
got a lieutenant or a commander
a lieutenant or a commander, do they constitute high
ranking officers and then you decide it's not a officer so
we don't review it. So in this case the issue was more that
we were talking about
that we were talking about, uh, because I don't think they
made, uh, actual named
named uh individuals. Um, but again, they're referring to
like a policy.
referring to like a policy of the CPD, a high ranking, the
decision-making. Uh decision to allocate resources in this
manner.
manner and so in our view that probably would implicate
somebody a higher up um to be clear.
somebody a higher up um to be clear there are cases where a
lieutenant might um you know,
lieutenant might um you know fall into that category of a
conflict. If that's
a conflict. If that's somebody that we work with closely
when we're conducting other types of investig
when we're conducting other types of Investigations. Um, so
the rank isn't necessarily determining factor in our
decision-making. Sorry, I just want to add something. Um,
in this particular 2 cases that we did receive the
complaint later.
CPD, using their resources and funds. And
CPD using their resources and funds and manpower to, uh, to
Aid ice.
Um, that was the complaint.
Um, that was the complaint at CPD as a whole Bia. The
Bureau of internal affairs falls under CPD, there is a
conflict of interest as it relates to that.
conflict of interest as it relates to that how can Bia
investigate their own Department.
investigate their own Department, agreed. Yeah, I mean,
that, that was a part we're trying to figure out
that, that was a part. We're trying to figure out because
if you're the Clearing House and your option is, oh,
if you're the Clearing House and your option is oig or Bia,
I guess 1 could argue.
I guess 1 could argue Bia, CPD.
basically investigating CPD about this matter and
Basically investigating CPD about this matter. And that to
me is not seem like the most accountable process. Uh, yep.
Sorry. Uh, uh uh, General Woods.
Sorry. Uh uh uh General woodsburgh. I'm sorry, I didn't
mean to interrupt you. I just I just want to jump in there
again. I I
The most urgent.
The most urgent matter before all of us is is ensuring that
there's a competent in.
there's a competent investigation into this matter. And so
and so we will ensure that that's the case.
We also should be mindful.
We also should be mindful of not having hard facts. Make
bad rules here.
rules here. Um, if we collectively take the position that
it is a conflict of interest for the Bureau of internal
affairs to investigate CPD members.
affairs to investigate CPD members, then we shouldn't have
a bureau of internal affairs, right? All of the cases that
they investigate are allegations into CPD
they investigate our allegations into CPD members. And so,
to just return to the observation that we have a very
crowded police oversight landscape. We ask taxpayers to pay
for that. We asked CPD members to navigate that we ought to
be making decisions it. It is most important.
be making decisions it. It is most important that we make
decisions about hard situations in a way that
Consistent with our sort of broader principles and our
commitments to account.
commitments to accountability. So I just want to be clear.
Here I am, I am.
Here I am, I am categorically not on board with the
princip.
principle that the Bureau of internal affairs is somehow
conflicted out of invest.
conflicted out of investigating CPD members. That is their
sole purpose.
Yes. But as a follow-up,
Let's say.
if, if you were to do you then look at the Bia
investigations to figure out their insufficient, or
investigations to figure out their insufficient or not, and
then you investigate those investigations, absolutely. Yes,
that's
that that is in my view. Why we have this statutory
mandated kind of Quality Control Function? The consent
decree um, has
decree, um, has very specific mandates around when the
Bureau of internal affairs is disqualified from conducting
an investigation.
an investigation into a CPD member. And that is
specifically when
when there are allegations against a named subject.
subject, who is in the chain of command above the bureau,
subject, who is in the chain of command above the Bureau of
internal affairs, there is no sort of amorphous.
internal affairs, there is no sort of amorphous high
ranking person of Goodwill exception to the jurisdiction of
your Internal Affairs, right? So the last
your Internal Affairs, right? So, the last question I got
and I'll pass that number is
Is who decides?
Is who decides the tiebreaker. So if you're in a situation
where 2 different independent bodies, uh, I won't say it's
a conflict but clearly there's a different
a conflict, but clearly, there's a different reading of the
code.
Who, who identifies?
All artic.
All articulate a frustration with all parties involved. Uh,
I understand it both parties looked at it differently. I
was trying to figure out who steps in is a Department of
Law. Is the administration to get to say someone
Law. Is the administration to get to say, someone has to do
the investigating. Because ultimately we're here,
the investigating because ultimately we're here a month
later without that being sorted, out is
later without that being sorted out, is there precedent for
how that gets, resolved? Also, we don't need anybody.
how that gets, resolved? Also, we don't need anybody else
to step in, um, if, if neither of
step in. Um, if if neither of the cities to police
misconduct investigating agencies, or
misconduct investigating agencies are going to take this
case, we will do it ourselves.
Okay, let me just take 1. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Um, this
is a unique situation. Um, we've never had this type of
complaint before I was direct of Investigations since 2023
and been working.
and been working police accountability per years. We've
never had this type of complaint U, me and Deborah have
been in talks and we will continue to be
been in talks, and we will continue to be in talks to try
to come up with an agreement, but we're open to feedback.
And so you guys comments on, who do you think?
so you guys comments on who do you think is best to do
that? Yeah like I and I appreciate that because I think
that? Yeah, like I and I appreciate that because I think
initially it felt a little bit like the Spider-Man meme.
now getting an understanding that it's clear.
now getting an understanding that it's clear and fair for
these 2 different bodies to view it differently.
It feels like we might have to need to clarify.
it feels like we might have to need to clarify language to
make sure that it doesn't occur as often like everything
else. It is unprecedented in a manner. And so I think um,
My concern. Now that I'm, I'm seriously, I have, um,
fear, for lack of a better term is
You're a month out from when it occurred. So the further
you are out from the incident, the information.
you are out from the incident, the information might not be
the same people's Recollections of what occurred and so
you're getting different information that might have
occurred, you know?
occurred, you know, if you did it expediently. Um, and
that's just generally a concern which why? We need to sort
that out.
I I agree. Um, as a matter of investigative.
I I agree. Um as a matter of investigative quality, I think
um
There's absolutely.
there's absolutely an opportunity for clarification in the
legislation here. Um, I I've been candid about my kind of
plane read of that language which is that if the language
that says that non CPD allegations are to come to oig if
that meant all all allegations it would say. So
that meant all all allegations it would say so it if there
is a lack of clarity in the welcoming city ordinance,
is a lack of clarity in the welcoming city, ordinance
language around Copa, city council should clarify, it
should decide
decide make should make a policy decision about where it
would.
would like these investigations to take place and then
should clarify the language. I think as I say in the
meantime, we have a more urgent
Matter to attend to in terms of this incident itself. Um,
yeah and I I'll just say that members. This is why we put
the order in.
the order in because everyone was trying to figure out what
we're going to do. We need the information now just
generally and so why it's important to get the order moving
forward. So I I will now open it up, uh, all the person
Fuentes.
In either.
In either of your opinions, is there a way to clarify this
language?
language outside of an amendment to the original ordinance?
Um, I will speak for us. Um, it needs to be amended uh,
because it will open open us up to law.
because it will open open us up to lawsuits and I'll have
my general counsel again, kind of speak on that too. As to
why it's important that we would need to amend it.
Sure. Um, so you know, we aren't
sure, um, so you know, we aren't trying to overly lawyer
this but we are concerned about the Integrity of the
investigation. We agree and investigation should happen. We
want it to be full and thorough but if Copa acts outside
want it to be full and thorough, but if Copa acts outside
of its jurisdiction, it risks, undermining, the our
investigation itself through arbitration decisions and
potentially lawsuits from the union. So that's why we think
that the legislation legislative clarification would be the
best thing. Um, just to minimize the risk of any
investigation that we might conduct.
as a sorry, a
As a sorry, a as a follow-up.
exactly to that question because I think,
exactly to that question because I think in discussing it
with uh, the administration is
with uh the administration is there, perhaps a memmer
memorandum of understanding a policy change or anything
that could clarify it.
that could clarify it independent of a change to the
welcoming city ordinance.
welcoming city ordinance? Yes, because similarly, there are
concerns about opening that up.
concerns about opening that up and then having members who
may not want to just clarify,
may not want to just clarify things, make it even more
challenging and open. The city up for further lawsuit. I
understood again Angie Snell.
understood again, Angie Snell, um, from kopa and that's
something we've discussed and something we're certainly
happy to continue discussing
Thank you. Yeah, I think the the reality is is
people, you know, within this body and organiz
people you know, within this body and organizations outside
of these chambers that seek to weaken
uh, the welcoming city ordinance, um, and any
Uh, the welcoming city ordinance, um, and any opportunity
to do that through an amendment process.
Um, you know, I would prefer not to go that
Um you know, I would prefer not to go that route. So maybe
if we can consider
we can consider uh other ways and Avenues in which we can
provide Clarity here outside of an amendment,
can provide Clarity here outside of an amendment to the, to
the ordinance itself would be appreciated.
if I may, I think 1 option would be an amendment to copas
ordinance, not to the welcome city ordinance but to copas
ordinance. Um, I think I cope is here. I, I won't speak for
the chief. I there have certainly been other situations in
which coupa has spoken publicly about it.
which coupa has spoken publicly about its efforts to kind
of round out its authority to invest.
of round out its authority to investigate certain kinds of
cases outside of the statutory language. Um, for example, I
know there's been a lot of disgust
know there's been a lot of discussion around consent,
decree compliance and copas investigation.
decree compliance and copas investigation of criminal, um,
Criminal
criminal sexual misconduct cases, and and coupa has
reported on its work.
reported on its work with the State's Attorney's office.
That is not explicitly en
That is not explicitly, enumerated. In the provisions of
copas ordinance here necessarily. Um, I know there has been
a view that coupa has some authority to conduct those
investigations, even though they are not specific.
investigations, even though they are not specifically
enumerated. So I will leave it to kopa whether whether in
fact in amendment to that language is needed here. When
isn't there. But the, but but in answer to your question
all the person I I hear the concern about kind of opening
up the welcoming City.
up the welcoming city ordinance, that's obviously a
decision for this body.
To make, it seems to me.
To make it seems to me that that the amendment could be made
to cope as enabling ordinance. Not not to the
made to cope as enabling ordinance, not not to the
welcoming city ordinance.
and just to, um,
And just to um, kind of further clarify it when it comes to
sexual assault.
sexual assault complaints, we do the administrative
investigations, we don't do the criminal.
investigations, we don't do the criminal, the criminal will
be referred to be at a, which we work.
be referred to be at a, which we work jointly with so that
there's need to be some clarification.
there's need to be some clarification to that as well,
okay? Um, briefly
Okay? Um, briefly other person's canoes in
Can.
Canadian have requested virtual option for committee here
in attendance. And of course, rule, 509 of the city council
Rules of Order. Can I get a motion to allow them? So moved
by all other person kasala hearing no objection. So ordered
All righty, any further questions? Yeah, yeah.
All righty, any further questions? Yeah. Yeah. Uh
Can, can we walk through?
Can, can we walk through, uh, copas decision to refer?
Well, to take it back from via then refer to the o.
Well to take it back from via then refer to the oig um, in
terms of the content.
in terms of the contents of the report, uh, because the
report was made to be that of the entire department.
report was made to be that of the entire department as a
concerning. The of the violation of
concerning, the of the violation of the policy itself,
would it have been a different scenario had the events of
that?
that day, articulated in terms of specific,
that day, articulated in terms of specific officers and
their actions and how we believe that to be a violation,
would Copa have made a different decision.
Possible. So, if it was clear of fat that it was
Possible. So if it was clear of fat that it was a violation
of the wco, um and CPD,
of the wco, um, and CPD was in violation, we probably would
automatically sent that to oig. Um, I will take
accountability that my staff again trying to make quick
justification.
justification, um, jurisdictional decisions sent to Bia.
Once I learned of that, I did pull it back because I am
aware of public perception. Uh, Copa knows about scrutiny.
very well. So I wanted to make sure that we pull those
cases back in order to ensure public, Trust.
Thank you and then General whisper.
thank you, and then General whisper since
Copa.
Copa believes that this is not their jurisdiction. They
have passed it to how soon.
have passed it to how soon can we expect the oig?
have passed it to how soon can we expect? The oig is going
to begin this investigation. I appreciate this question
because it it gives me an opportunity to to comment.
because it it gives me an opportunity to to comment on 1
more 1, more aspect that I think
more 1 more aspect that I think is important to consider
when we when we talk about this question of a crow.
when we when we talk about this question of a crowded
police oversight landscape. Um, oig's confidentiality
rules, which I take very, seriously. You all have heard me
in this seat, talk about that. That many
in this seat. Talk about that. That many times. Um, are
different than the confidentiality rules that apply to
Coppa and tobiah. Um,
Coppa and tobiah, um, and investigation. And, and I, I just
want to be candid here. So,
want to be candid here so that we all are kind of playing
with the same deck.
with the same deck and investigation conducted, uh, and a
police.
police misconduct investigation conducted by oig will be.
less publicly transparent than 1 conducted by Coppa. Or
less publicly transparent than 1 conducted by Coppa, or by
the Bureau of internal affairs. That is an investigation
into which this body and members of the public will have
less visibility.
Then they would into an investigation conducted by the
Bureau of internal.
Bureau of internal affairs and by Coppa and I say that
because our rules are different.
because our rules are different and we have different
obligations around confidentiality and so
obligations around confidentiality. And so if in fact, this
is an investigation conducted by oig, which as I say, it
will be, if no 1 else is going to do it.
will be if no 1 else is going to do it. Um, because we are
not in the business of passing the buck, then I won't be in
a position to tell you much at all about when we start or
when we finish or what we find.
Um,
um, so I
For that. And then I really do.
For that. And then I really do appreciate hearing from
everyone here. Um, what I would like from both parties,
is a kind of breakdown of what those requirements for
transparency are, and
transparency are and what's available publicly available
available available to the council.
available available to the council because I think it's we
further have discussions.
further have discussions on clarifying that language will
want to consider the differences as to what's most
transparent most accountable. So we can then make the
decision right? And like I said, I
I'm grateful for this hearing because I have a much greater
appreciation as to how each party.
appreciation as to how each party looks at it. I think we
want to identify what is the most transparent and
accountable and then be able to determine where we want to
go legislatively based on that.
1 last question, share. Uh, I don't know if the Department
of Law or, or if anyone from the administration wants to
comment, but
According.
According to how we read the ordinance. Uh, who do we
believe should be investigating this case?
Good.
Good afternoon. Ray Phillips Santos on behalf of the city
of Chicago's Department of Law. Uh, thank you for the
question Alderman. Alder Foo.
question, Alderman. Alder Fuentes. Um, I think I heard you
ask.
ask, who do I believe should be handling it. Let me let me
rephrase before you answer the question.
According to how the ordinance is written.
What is?
What is the interpretation of which entity should be
invest?
investigating? The case and the events that took place on
June 4th?
Sure.
Thank you for the clarification on the question. The, um,
The municipal code.
Uh, and the welcoming city ordinance does.
uh, and the welcoming city ordinance does, uh,
Say that for that when it's Chicago Police.
say that for that when it's Chicago Police Department
officials, um, I or maybe it's members, I think in the
actual code, um, there it is, a police.
actual code, um, there it is. A police, a person alleging a
violation of this chapter against a member of the
violation of this chapter, against a member of the Chicago,
Police Department. Shall forward. A complaint,
Police Department, shall forward. A complaint to the
civilian office of police.
Accountability or any successor independent.
Accountability or any successor? Independent police review
agency now.
agency. Now, at that point the code,
agency. Now at that point the code and I'm sorry I just
read to you from uh section 2173.
read to you from uh section 2, 173 050.
so, when we look at,
so when we look at section 278120, which is in the Copa,
uh, chapter
it gives Copa the authority to conduct investig.
it gives Copa the authority to conduct investigations into
complaints against members of the police department,
alleging domest. Um,
Sorry to receive and register.
Sorry to receive and register all complaints filed against
members of the police department.
And then there are
1 2 3 4 5.
1 2 3 4 5 about 6 categories.
1 2 3 4 5 about 6 categories of things which if the police
are implicated in doing any of those things,
then the then cop is supposed to investigate.
then the then cop is supposed to investigate, I don't have
the facts and the circum.
the facts and the circumstances to understand whether
um,
Um, the police are alleged to have done any of those.
Um, the police are alleged to have done any of those things.
if the police did any of those,
if the police did any of those things or are alleged to
have done any of those things,
have done any of those things and it's a welcoming city
ordinance.
issue, alleged violation, then Copa
um, would likely be the, the the 1 to do it, but,
um,
If it's not.
Then um, 1 of those. If, if 1 of those is not implicated
um,
Then.
It should be sent to the uh Bure.
It should be sent to the uh Bureau of internal affairs. And
I am
Failing to find.
failing to find the actual quote for that.
uh,
Uh, that's in copas powers and duties, which say that.
Uh, that's in copas powers and duties, which say that it
shall refer all complaints. Not under its specific
jurisdiction.
jurisdiction to the Bureau of internal affairs. Yeah that
subsection G.
Of that. Um, 278120
um,
Now.
now that said,
Beyond that.
it really depends upon the sub, the
It really depends upon the sub, the the matters too, right?
If there are certain allegations, which it's inappropriate
for either of those bodies to handle it, well, then it
could be handled by
be handled by any of a number of other bodies as
uh,
coupa has the authority to refer the complaint or
information concerning member of the police department to
the office of Inspector General, or to
appropriate federal state, or
appropriate federal state or local law enforcement
authorities.
um,
so,
because I don't have the facts um, because I don't have the
allegations. I could not give you a direct answer as to who
the uh who should appropriately handle.
the, uh, who should appropriately handle it. I can just
give you what, uh, the code says
That is this heartening? Well, I I I think.
That is this heartening? Well, I I I think like everything
else here. Welcome to we're pioneer
else here. Welcome to. We're Pioneer territory because 1
thing is, if a CPD member is named as a, the
thing is, if a CPD member is named as a comp, the complaint
is about, that's your read on it. I understand.
is about, that's your read on it. I understand if it's a
policy matter and there wasn't specific officers included,
that would be where it feels kind of gray area. And I think
even in your answer, the word inappropriate is subjective.
as to who thinks
what is an appropriate unless it's
What is an appropriate unless it's specifically, enumerated
and the municipal.
and the municipal code. Is that correct?
um,
yeah, obviously there's there's there's always going to be
interpretation as to particular words and hopefully we have
Um, you know, yeah. I mean that that's that's why we're
hearing it out to figure out how to clarify those pieces
there. I guess related to that is
there, I guess related to that is CPD internal review.
What does the municipal code?
What does the municipal code say about what their required
to do? Is an internal review? What a turnaround time is
because we, and I'll say some members of this body met with
the administration who said there was an internal review
conducted, and everything seemed
conducted and everything seemed on the up and up, which may
very well have been the case. Um, in asking questions. Here
we didn't get clarity on whether there was an internal
review or what came of it and so doesn't Municipal Code
State anything related to internal.
State, anything related to internal review. And when we
would need it, those kind of things because that might be
something we need.
something we need to clarify. Also
and that's for whoever I was going to say to the extent
that that's a question um for you know as to
that that's a question. Um, for you know as to what what is
the extent of the internal review.
the extent of the internal review? Um, well not, and I
guess not the extent. What's required like, does the
municipal code say, in an instance like this, we need an
intern.
internal review by this time. Shared to. I would imagine
that might be great area as well, and something we might
also need to clarify. I'll defer to a subject matter
expert.
Yeah. Well, I think
Yeah, well, I think the question though is, is there in the
municipal code anything?
municipal code? Anything about return internal review but I
will address
I will address. I'm the deputy mayor for immigrant migr
Refugee Rights. Thank you all for being here. And really
um, having this very important.
having this very important, um, conversation. So I
um, having this very important, um, conversation. So I I do
want to address the issue of an internal review and say
that from the mayor's office perspective.
from the mayor's office perspective. That is what we have
begun. So the executive branch cannot do an independent
external review, but we can do an internal review. That's
our responsibility and the mayor um,
our responsibility and the mayor, um, committed to doing
that. And so, we did begin that. Uh, I
that. And so we did begin that. Uh, I want to just
highlight a few of the pieces of that review. Um,
Um, on June 5th, the mayor met immediately with, uh,
superintendent, Snelling and some other senior leaders to
discuss.
Snelling and some other senior leaders to discuss the
sequence of the events of June 4th later.
sequence of the events of June. 4th, later on June 10th, we
had another meeting with the Latino caucus that included
the mayor chief of staff.
that included the mayor Chief of Staff, um, our chief of
external Affairs myself. And
external Affairs myself, and we're able to hear firsthand
what the questions and concerns were from the Latino caucus
and to begin to think about what we would be able to to do
to move forward.
to move forward and understand what happened on the 4th.
June 11th. We um joined I was able to join with other
senior mayor's office team.
senior mayor's office team members the, the weekly briefing
from C.
from CPD to the mayor. And in that meeting, we had
from CPD to the mayor. And in that meeting we had um, we
were able to get even more debt.
were able to get even more detailed information, much of
what you heard today and ask questions.
and hear directly from superintendent Snelling and
And hear directly from superintendent Snelling and others
who were on site there. Um, and then on the 12th of June we
had uh another meeting with some of the folks who were in
in in Chambers today who are on the ground.
in in Chambers today, who are on the ground on June 4th
from our, um, immigr.
from our, um, immigrant serving organizations. And and some
of the organizers to hear what happened, um, from their
perspective.
perspective and and what recommendations and suggestions.
they had for us
since then, we have um, you know, worked to
Since then, we have um, you know, worked to piece together.
What occurred that day to have a better.
what occurred that day to have a better understanding of
how we move forward?
how we move forward and certainly I think what what has
come to light today is that this is New Territory for many
of us.
of us in regards, we haven't had investigations like this.
Take place. We are, uh, making sure that the mayor can and
the city can uphold its commitment to maintain the
welcoming City or
welcoming city ordinance to make sure that it's implemented
across our department.
across our departments. And that's what we're committed to
doing. Um, I will say that in terms of a response and being
being, um, more proactive, we continued to
continued to push out the know, your rights information for
our the
our, the residents of Chicago. We also updated the guid,
guidelines for how City departments and agencies should
respond.
respond in the case of Federal immigration. Uh, law
enforcement and have made sure that Commissioners and, and
the heads of those departments and agencies have that
information,
and,
And have a direct line also to our Department of Law, if
they need it. So,
they need it. So from the Executive Branch from the May
they need it. So from the Executive Branch from the mayor's
office, we have begun that internal review.
office, we have begun that internal review process and we
would be, you know, being able to to brief uh council
members. Once that is concluded or as it evolves ongoingly.
Okay? Thank you all the person cuentas
Thank you, chairman.
Thank you chairman. Uh, deputy and I I appreciate you uh
meeting with all of the parties that were involved that day
to get an account.
to get an account of what happened does the internal
review.
review include. Um,
Viewing of body cam footage and trans.
Viewing of body cam footage and transcripts of the oemc
calls, uh, there were articulated today.
calls. Uh, there were articulated today by Dr. Washington
um, it it does and I'm going to pass that over to our
deputy mayor of community safety to address that
Uh, good afternoon everyone. Um, so the Chicago Police
Department, did an immediate after action review. Um, and I
always look for ways to improve their policies and
procedures. Um, yes, we will have access to a review, uh,
call logs. Um, this is a part of the work that we typically
do. Um, so we will do that, um, and review.
do. Um, so we will do that, um, and review footage from
that day as well, and kind of build out from there.
that day as well and kind of build out from there, so
that'll be a part of that work. Now, it is also important
to note that the work that is going to be happening
internally with the police department. We got to make sure
that it doesn't impede any Independence.
An investigation.
And investigations. So when everybody's that are going to
conduct those and independent investigations, the work that
the police department is going to be done Shepherd and the
pardon and obviously they'll
pardon, and obviously they'll, uh, support and uh, give
whatever information.
whatever information necessary to those independent bodies
to make sure those investig.
to make sure those investigations are thorough.
deputy,
Deputy mayor uh, gate.
It's been 27 days.
It's been 27 days when can we expect that? The internal
review will be concluded.
Um, that's a great question. I think a part of that making
sure it gets done and make sure it gets done. Right. Is
sure it gets done and make sure it gets done, right? Is a
part of that overall process 1, making sure that we don't
step in front of any of external reviews.
step in front of any of external reviews that are
happening. So we can know what information can be shared.
publicly and be shared amongst this body.
publicly and be shared amongst this body and other folks.
Now I know the deputy mayor poza de Leon agreed to make
sure there's consistent briefings on it but
sure there's consistent briefings on it, but I can get back
to you on a more consistent.
to you on a more consistent timeline of what that will look
like.
And can the members of this committee expect to be briefed
on findings.
on the findings of this internal investigation. Yeah, I
would certainly help.
would, certainly hope so. That's a part of the work that,
uh, bids response at the
bids response at day long just um committed to so yeah.
bids response at day long just um, committed to. So yeah, I
I would certainly hope that updating this committee and not
just
not just this committee but all the city council, uh,
because obviously this is an issue that impacts the entire
city
Awesome. That my final point of clarification. I'm so sorry.
sorry. Uh, yes, all the women had
Thank you so much. Um, Deputy Mayor gate
Thank you so much. Um Deputy Mayor Gatewood and your your
response to to Alder fentes.
Do you?
I want some clear just to
I want some clear, just a clarification that answer wasn't
very clear. So you're saying I heard Deputy Mayor pain, we
started internal uh, review your saying
started internal uh review your saying we're we're doing an
internal review but 1 of
an internal review but 1 of the holdups to giving us any
any information about time frame, or
any information about timeframe or or kind of when it'll be
done is
be done is based on.
being, you know, trying to
Being, you know, trying to be cognizant of any external
reviews.
reviews, but we've just covered extensively. How we don't
even know, like, I guess,
even know, like, I guess maybe there will be an external
review, but like, all of this has been
review, but like all of this has been like there is
currently no external review. So since there's currently,
no, external review, what's what's the
no, external review, what's, what's the hold up?
so, I think
so I think a part of that is making sure everything is
thorough and I, I appreciate that question. So on the time
frame for the internal review and when information can be
shared um I'm happy to pass that over to be but I think
it's also important that we do our job and make sure that
workers thorough um and in
workers thorough um And in regards to that obviously we
know that there were complaints filed and we again we have
to let those investigator.
Bodies.
bodies do their work as they decide who's responsible for
what, and we need to do our work internally within the
mayor's,
mayor's office and our departments. Uh, so we can get to a
point of sharing the information that is found
Okay. Uh, thank you and thank you. Uh back to all other
person for
From, in this way. Look
from in this way, look June 4th, we had individuals that
were text
They were baiting by an organization that has a business.
they were baiting by an organization that has a business
license, by the way,
uh,
Uh, who is in partnership with ice?
Uh who is in partnership with ice to take individuals that
are going through.
are going through a legal process that day?
are going through a legal process that day, there are
multiple calls made to OMC that caused 911 CPD in
particular to respond.
We watched heavy.
We watched heavy Presence by CPD. We watched CPD go in and
out of this office.
We?
We have individuals who have been members of our
communities.
communities for decades who have been organizing alongside
us,
There is no.
There is no reason.
No reason.
Why any department or this city cannot properly?
Why any department or this city cannot properly investigate
an incident?
because we are welcoming City, we have
Because we are welcoming City. We have for years been
telling immigrant families that they are safe in the city
of Chicago, because
of Chicago because we uphold the welcoming city ordinance.
And yet, we are sitting in this Committee hearing the
baiting whose jurisdiction, it is to invest.
baiting whose jurisdiction, it is to investigate this
we should be ashamed of ourselves.
Our families and our communities deserve better.
and I just want for the record and I'm going to
And I just want for the record and I'm going to ask if it
could be included in order. I personally in my personal
humble opinion, do not believe the oig should investigate
this
Our public.
Our public deserves full transparency of the details. That
happened on June 4th.
I believe, whichever.
I believe, whichever entity can give us the greatest
detail.
of what happened so that we can hold ourselves accountable.
of what happened so that we can hold ourselves. Accountable
should be the entity that investigates this case.
Chairman, I'm asking.
Chairman I'm asking, is it possible that we put into the
order who investigates this case?
What I would?
What I would recommend giving.
Who's here?
Who's here is to pass the order to make sure we get that
information.
information and then, as you know, because I
information and then as you know, because I share your
frustration immensely which is why we moved with an order.
frustration immensely which is why we moved with an order
to then identify who we want to do, what start draft.
to then identify who we want to do. What start drafting
that together and move it. We have another, uh, we have
Council on the 16th and we have another Committee hearing
on the 24th.
So, that is my expectation. I also
So that is my expectation. I also think in between that time
we need to meet with all the bodies,
we need to meet with all the bodies and stakeholders
involved to sort out as a policy.
involved to sort out as a policy matter before we get the
codified who does what?
codified who does what ASAP the longer, this takes the
less.
less, um, qu the worst quality of information. We then have
less, um, qu the worst quality of information we then have.
And as we've heard, this is not an isolated incident. There
have been others since so we need to sort that out. So,
what I would do if it's okay is motion to pass the order.
and that way we can continue and work on what the
And that way we can continue and work on what the, what we
need to codify because I want to know to your point.
need to codify because I want to know to your point who has
the most information on what I also need to.
the most information on what I also need to identify
As it relates to internal review. What happens and I am
further confused.
further confused as to hearing from the mayor's office and
Deputy Mayor that we have conducted. We are conducting, we
will conduct a review and not having any Clarity there.
will conduct a review and not having any Clarity there that
I think we also need to look at. So I I'm
I am racing to partner with you.
I am racing to partner with you to figure that sorted out
if you want to do that, and we'll pass.
if you want to do that, and we'll pass the order now.
Sure.
Sure, thank you. Um, with that as questions.
Sure. Thank you. Um, with that as questions have now
concluded, can I have a motion to vote on order?
concluded, can I have a motion to vote on order s2025 d
0000001?
0000001, 7810.
Other uh, person Casada moves all those in favor of passing.
uh the order respond by saying. I
uh the order respond by saying I all those opposed.
any opinion of the are the eyes have it, uh, this order has
now passed out of committee. I report this vote as a
recommendation to pass at the next city council meeting on
July 16th.
Thank you again for everyone here because it is
unprecedented. I want to acknowledge that, I think.
unprecedented. I want to acknowledge that. I think in many
of the comments that our colleagues I want to thank the
members of the committee.
members of the committee for a lot of substantive questions
and understanding in the scenario that we're in. Um, and I
want to make clear because to um, both all their person
casadas point as well as ottoman sexual Lopez. There are
members of this body. I I I'll say no.
members of this body. I I I'll say No 1 that I've seen in
this committee that want to politicize this moment.
this committee that want to politicize this moment and make
it seem as though. We're against public.
make it seem as though, we're against public safety because
we want accountability, it is, it might be very clear and I
think from some of the comments of what CPD and director
Brooks made that they officers.
Brooks made that they officers in what your testifying did
everything possible to try.
everything possible to try to make the right calls in a
moment. That was unprecedented.
moment that was unprecedented. And so when we seek to get
accountability it is not
accountability, it is not an attack on any of the
Departments.
Departments including CPD, it's to identify balls and
Strikes. The same way we call for accountability when there
are officer involved shootings there's a recognition that
These are hard costs to make and split-second moments.
These are hard calls to make and split-second moments, and
to have a kind of ability, isn't an indignation of a
department. It's identifying what right looks like because
it protects not only the public, it also protects those
departments if they are doing the right things.
departments if they are doing the right things and we want
to make sure we continue to do that. So uh, with that being
said, I want to thank everyone here and everyone.
said, I want to thank everyone here and everyone in the box
and I would motion to adjourn uh I guess I guess any of the
members if you want a motion to adjourn.
Uh, all the person Casada moves.
Uh, all the person Casada moves with jurn all those in
favor. Say, I and you opposed and the opinion of the chair.
This meeting is adjourned.