Mic check down the check. Mic check. Frank. Anybody. Yeah. City of Chicago. City of Chicago city council rules of conduct for public meetings. meetings, 2023 to 2027. meetings, 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Chicago city council Rules of Order and proced. council Rules of Order and procedure rule 49, the sergeant death sergeant-at-arms sets forth, the following rules of conduct to be followed during the public comment period and the duration of all committee and City Council, meetings profane. profane vulgar. and, And appreciate your patience. We're waiting for 2 more. almond so that we will have Quorum. Thank you. good morning, ladies and Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, the committee on finances hereby. finances hereby call to order uh, today we will have Uh, today we will have a tera public hearing for the Chicago. Chicago O'Hare International Airport. General Airport. O'Hare International Airport. General airport, senior, lean revenue bonds. We'll have a roll call to establish quorum. Vice chair Conway. Alderman laspada. Alderman. Alderman Hopkins. Alderman Hall. Alderman Mitchell. Alderman. Alderman Harris, Alderman Beal alderman. Alderman Harris, Alderman Beal, Alderman, Lee. Alderman Ramirez. Alderman Quinn. Alderman Lopez. I see, Alder. I see Alderman Moore. Alderman. Curtis Alderman. OSHA. Alderman Mosley. Alderman, Hopkins, I see you. Alderman Rodriguez, Alderman Scott. Alderman, CEO Lopez. Alderman, CEO Lopez Alderman. Talia Farrell Alderman, Cardona. Alderman wag. Alderman waguespack. Alderman, Rodriguez, Sanchez. Alderman Rodriguez. Sanchez Alderman, Quezada. Alderman spaz. Allman Vasquez. Alderman. Reilly Alderman, Knudsen. Alderman. Martin. Alderman, silver. Alderman Silverstein. Chair dowel is here. We have a quorum, we have. We have a quorum, we have 17. Alderman brunette. Alderman brunette, viegas Urban Taylor and mitts. Alderman, brunette, viegas, Urban Taylor and mitts have requested remote participation for reasons stated under the provision of rule 59. Can I have a motion to allow these Alderman to participate today? So moved by Alderman, Reilly all those in favor. Signify by saying I all those in favor signify by saying I opposed in the opinion of the chairs. The opinion of the chairs, the eyes have it and we will confirm aldwin Bernett. Al. Alderman. Vagus. Alderman. Alderman, Ervin, almond competent. And Alderman, Ervin Alderman, competent and family. Taylor. Taylor president, I got you all. Taylor president, I got you all and Taylor's present Alderman mitts. Alderman Bernett. Alderman. Viegas. let the record reflect that this is a public hearing that is being held pursuant to the requirements of section 147f. of the Internal Revenue code of 1986 as amended and will be referred to throughout. referred to throughout the hearing as the code. Notice. Notice of this public hearing was published on June, 3rd. 2025 on the website of the office of the city clerk. 2025 on the website of the office of the city, clerk of the city of Chicago throughout today's hear. city of Chicago throughout. Today's hearing, the city of Chicago may also be referred to Simply as the city, let the reporter remark. and mark, the screenshot of such And mark, the screenshot of such a notice as committees number 1 for ident. number 1 for identification. I will now ask Brendan White assistant, commissioner. I will now ask Brendan White assistant, commissioner of the Department of Finance to explain the back. Department of Finance to explain the background for this hearing. Good morning. Brendan Good morning, Brendan White. Thank you. Chairman uh, ter. Good morning. Brendan White. Thank you. Chairman. Uh, Tera stands for tax equity and fiscal. stands for tax equity and fiscal responsibility act which is a federal law. Um, this hearing is required by this law to provide the public and opportunity to comment on the plan of Finance. plan of Finance for certain kinds of tax exempt, bonds and notes. notes, and the use of proceeds of such bonds and notes. Um, following the public hearing, the city must still approve. The plan of Finance for the issuance of bonds or notes before. before any of the tax exempt debt can be issued approval. before any of the tax. Exempt. Debt can be issued approval can be by an ordinance adopted by city council. Or can be by an ordinance adopted by city council or a certificate signed by the mayor. Thank you, Brendan. This is a hearing regarding a proposed. Thank you, Brendan. This is a hearing regarding a proposed plan of Finance to issue Chicago. plan of Finance to issue Chicago O'Hare, International Airport, General airports. Airport, General airports senior lean revenue bonds in a principal amount. principal amount, not to exceed 4 billion. principal amount, not to exceed 4 billion 325 million, and we will refer to these as the O'Hare bonds today. during the hearing, we may refer to the O'Hare International Airport simply as the airport. pursuant to the plan of Pursuant to the plan of Finance, the proceeds of the O'Hare, bonds will be used. O'Hare, bonds will be used for the purpose of a, the payment or reimbursement of the cost of certain capital. And projects, including airport Airfield. including airport Airfield terminal, concession, roadway and Airport. Airport transit system facilities and Improvement. Airport transit system facilities and improvements and other related facilities and improvements. other related facilities and improvements at or near the airport. At the cost. at the cost of providing sound insulation, and At the cost of providing sound insulation and noise, mitigation at schools and Residences. mitigation at schools and Residences in areas surrounding the airport incl. the airport including without limitation capital projects included. included in the O'Hare Terminal area plan. The O'Hare modernization program and the O'Hare Capital Improvement program at the airport, B refunding or refinancing General airport, revenue? Bonds? B refunding or refinancing General airport, revenue? Bonds, special facility charge Revenue. special facility, charge revenue, bonds commercial, paper notes credit notes, credit agreement notes, Andor passenger facility, charge revenue, bonds issued for the purp. charge revenue, bonds issued for the purpose of the airport. C. Cash flow. Needs of the airport and fun. C cash flow. Needs of the airport and funding costs of security projects and funding. security projects and funding the cost of acquiring land and the relocation. and the relocation of facilities relating to the airport. D, the deposit of monies in. D, the deposit of monies in certain funds and accounts to accomplish the purpose of the O'Hare bonds including deposits to Capitol capitalized. Interest accounts for the O'Hare bonds and other senior lean obligations under the master trust and denture. master trust indenture. Deposits to Debt Service Reserve. Deposits to Debt Service Reserve accounts and common Debt Service Reserve sub. Service Reserve sub funds. E funding. The E funding, the costs relating to the acquisition of any lease. leasehold interests of any Airline or other tenant. leasehold interests of any Airline or other tenant at the airport, including any contractual. airport, including any contractual, right of any Airline under any Airline, use agreement or special facility. Financing arrangements. And financing arrangements and F the payment of costs of issuance. issuance incurred in connection with the issuing the O'Hare bonds. the city will issue the The city will issue the O'Hare, bonds pursuant to its powers as a home. powers as a home rule unit of government under the 19. powers as a home rule unit of government under the 1970 constitution of the state of Illinois. And an ordinance adopted by the. And an ordinance adopted by the city of Chicago. The O'Hare bonds will. bonds will not be a general obligation of the city. The state of Illinois, or any political subdivision, state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof, but will be special limited obligations of the city. but will be special limited obligations of the city payable from airport, revenues and other passenger. from airport, revenues and other passenger facilities charges. The O'Hare. The O'Hare bonds will not constitute an indebtedness. The O'Hare bonds will not constitute an indebtedness of or a loan of credit of the city, the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision of the state of Illinois within the meaning of any constitutional limitation or statutory Prov, provision. No, holder of any. No, holder of any O'Hare. Bonds will have the right to compel any exercise of the taxing power of the city, the state of Illinois, the United States of America, or any political subdivision of any of them to pay the principal of Premium. of Premium, if any or interest on the O'Hare Bond. of Premium, if any or interest on the O'Hare, bonds, written comments relating to this plan. written comments relating to this plan to issue the O'Hare, bonds must have been Bonds must have been submitted by email to the committee on finance at city of Chicago, no later than 10. finance at city of Chicago. No later than 10:00 a.m. Friday. June 13th, 202. Friday, June 13th, 2025. Let the record reflect that? No. Let the record reflect that. No, written comments were submitted on this project. ladies and gentlemen, if any Resident taxpayer or other interested person attending this hearing desires and opportunity to express their views. opportunity to express their views on the proposed plan of Finance for the issuance of oh, Finance for the issuance of O'Hare bonds and the facilities being financed. being financed and or refinanced O'Hare. Please. Please do 1 of the following for those attending in person. Please come up. Please come up to the mic when your name is called. But those who have called in on the toll-free line, Press. press star 9 and you will be able to deliver your Press star 9 and you will be able to deliver your comments. Uh, when you press star 6 to unmute your phone, um, is Um, is there any member of the public taxpayer interested person? person who wishes to make a statement with respect to? person who wishes to make a statement with respect to this? Matter. we do have 1 person who we do have 1, person who has signed up to speak on this matter and that is George Blakemore. Good morning, Mr. Blakemore, good morning, madam The older. is 1 of our Is 1 of our outstanding. Airport. Airport in America. My purpose. My purpose for speaking and that voodoo econom. My purpose for speaking, and that voodoo economics, that you have here. Say the city is not you have here. Say, the city is not responsible. I'm a to this money going to be invested in a black Bank, even if we don't. don't have a black bank here, they do have black. don't have a black bank here, they do have black financial institutions anyway. institutions. Anyway, jobs, goods, and contracts and service. institutions. Anyway, jobs, goods and contracts and service of how how many black people will be working you when you go to Atlanta, you see a lot of black people working at that airport and airport and jobs also uh with with the concession, how many black people are going to be selling alcohol in liquor and and souvenirs. How? How many? so, I can specifically so, I come specifically advocating for black people and, and it's something disgraceful. You only have 1 person to speak on this particular item. on this particular item the concessions out there. on this particular item, the concessions out there. Now, you got a black face in a high place, running the airport we have black faces down here, In in high places. In in high places selling black people out. How much money? Is going to go to the black community. is going to go to the black community but but specifically specifically with concessions and jobs and Kant, with concessions and jobs and contracts, this voodoo economics that you speaking. voodoo economics that you speaking about down here it it said you cannot hold. said you cannot hold the city responsible. You are pro, uh, uh, you work for the city. All of these are City elected. all of these are City elected officials and for you to make a statement of make a statement of such a magnitude that the city cannot be. be held responsible with your voodoo econom. be held responsible with your voodoo economics that you are having here. so, it's very So it's very important and I'm, it's it's something wrong. But only 1 speaker Only. Only 1 speaker on something that's important. As Only 1 speaker on something that's important as our Airport. airport. Oh hell So your job is to educ. so, your job is to educate inform and Enlighten your constituents, perhaps you want to keep them. constituents. Perhaps you want to keep them dumb. Uneducated un. Uneducated uninformed, that's why we get away. Uneducated uninformed. That's why we get away right here with this Democratic machine here. The sex food here because you like it, it benefits. because you like it it benefits y'all and not the black community. And not the black community. So again, Is this? Is this graceful that you only have 1? is this graceful that you only have 1 speaker or, you know, something, something fake media. Writing, I bet you won't see. Writing I bet you won't see what Mr. Blakemore says in fake media. media because you all are part of the problem. Also, media because you all are part of the problem. Also. That's why I Thank you, Mr. Blakemore, ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the public hearing on the proposed plan for the city of Chicago. To issue to not. To issue to not exceed 4325 million. To issue to not exceed 4325 million principal amount for the Chicago O'Hare. Chicago O'Hare International Airport. General airport, senior lean re senior. Lean revenue bonds, let the record reflect that the public. public hearing on this matter was concluded at 10:30 a.m. June 16th 2025. This concludes the Tet. June 16th 2025. This concludes the Tetra hearing Uh, good morning. Ladies and gentlemen, the finance committee meeting is hereby called to order. Uh, today we will also be holding a tephra public hearing for the Chicago. Chicago, Midway Airport, senior lean Revenue. Chicago, Midway Airport, senior lean revenue bonds. We will now have a roll call to establish. now have a roll call to establish quorum. Vice chair Conway. Alderman, lasp. Alderman laspata. Alderman Hopkins. Alderman. Hall Alderman, Mitchell. Al Alderman Hall, Alderman, Mitchell Alderman, Harris Alderman Beal, Alderman, Lee. Alderman Ramirez. Alderman. Alderman, Quinn, Alderman, Lopez alderman. Alderman, Quinn, Alderman, Lopez Alderman, Moore Alderman. Curtis alderman. Curtis Alderman. OSHA Alderman Mosley alderman. Curtis Alderman, OSHA Alderman Mosley Alderman, Rodriguez, Alderman Scott. Alderman sich. Alderman sichel Lopez. I counted you um should have uh, counted you for Quorum for the first half for hearing I did. did see you walk in so we'll add you to that role as well. Alderman sichel Lopez for this 1. Alderman Talia. Alderman. Talia Farrell. Alderman. Cardona, almond. Alderman, Cardona Alderman waguespack Alderman, Rodriguez Sanchez. Sanchez Alderman, Quezada. Alderman. Alderman spaz. Alder. Alderman Vasquez Alderman, Reilly alderman. Alderman Vasquez Alderman, Reilly Alderman, kuden, Alderman. Martin Al Martin Alderman Silverstein chair. Dao is here. We have a quorum, we have 18. Again, we have almond Bernett. Bernett vas, Irvin Taylor, and Mitt Bernett, vas, Irvin Taylor and mitts have requested remote participation for remote participation for reasons stated under the provisions of rule. provisions of rule 59, can I have a motion to allow these all? all the men to participate? So, moved by alderman. so moved by Alderman Moore, all those in favor, signify by saying I I pose in the opinion of a chair, the eyes saying I I pose in the opinion of a chair the eyes have it and we'll confirm Alderman, Bernett V. and we'll confirm Alderman, Bernett, vagus irvan Taylor and mitts our president of joined today. let the Thank you. All. Got you? Let the record reflect. This is a public. Got you, let the record reflect. This is a public hearing that is being held pursuant to the requirements of section 147. F of the Internal Revenue code of 1986 as amended and 147. F of the Internal Revenue code of 1986 as amended, and we'll be referred to throughout this hearing as the code. we'll be referred to throughout this hearing as the code notice of this public hearing was published on June. notice of this public hearing was published on June 6th, 2025 on the website of the office of the city, clerk of the city of Chicago. city of Chicago throughout. today's hearing the city of Chicago, Today's hearing the city of Chicago may also be referred to Simply as the city. let the reporter Mark the screenshot of such Let the reporter Mark the screenshot of such notice as committee exhibit number 2 for identification. I will now ask Brendan White assistant Commission. I will now ask Brendan White assistant, commissioner of the Department of Finance to explain the background of this. Department of Finance to explain the background of this hearing. Brendan Thank you, chairman. thank you. Chairman tephra stands for tax equity and Thank you. Chairman tephra stands for tax equity, and fiscal responsibility act, which is a federal law. Uh, this hearing is required by law to provide the public and opportunity to comment on the plan of Finance. opportunity to comment on the plan of Finance for certain types of tax exempt, bonds and notes. types of tax exempt, bonds and notes, and the use of the proceeds of such bonds and notes. proceeds of such bonds and notes following the public hearing, the city must approve. The hearing. The city must approve, the plan of Finance for the issuance of bonds or notes before any of the taxes. And debt can be issued approval can be Approval can be by an ordinance adopted by. Approval can be by an ordinance adopted by city council or buy a certificate signed by the mayor. Thank you, Brendan. This is a hearing regarding a proposed plan to finance to issue. Chicago Midway Airport, senior lean Revenue. Chicago Midway Airport, senior lean revenue bonds and a principal amount not to exceed. principal amount, not to exceed 445 million, and we will refer to these as the Midway bonds today during refer to these as the Midway bonds today. During the hearing, we may refer to the Midway International Airport. hearing, we may refer to the Midway International Airport simply as the airport pursuant to simply as the airport. Pursuant to this plan of Finance, the proceeds of the Midway bonds. The proceeds of the Midway bonds will be used for the purpose of a, the payment. purpose of a the payment or reimbursement of the cost of certain capital projects. certain capital projects, including airport, Airfield terminal. terminal, concession roadway and Airport trans. terminal, concession, roadway and Airport Transit. System facilities and Improvement. system facilities and improvements and other related facilities improvements at or near the airport and the cost of providing sound. cost of providing sound installation and noise mitigation at schools. And at schools and Residences in areas surrounding the airport. at schools and Residences in areas surrounding the airport B refunding or refinancing B. Refunding or refinancing airport revenue. Bonds, special facility re facility, revenue bonds commercial paper notes and or credit agreement notes issued for purposes of the airport. credit agreement notes issued, for purposes of the airport C. Cash flow needs of the C, cash flow needs of the airport and funding costs of security projects. security projects and funding the cost of acquiring land. And and the relocation of facilities relating to the airport. and the relocation of facilities relating to the airport, D, the deposit of Monies. D, the deposit of monies into certain funds and accounts to accomplish the purpose of the Midway bonds, including deposits to capitalize uh interest accounts for the Midway bonds and others senior lean. bonds and others senior lean obligations under the master trust indenture. Deposits to Debt Service Reserve accounts. Deposits to Debt Service Reserve accounts and common Debt Service Reserve. Service Reserve sub funds e. Service Reserve sub funds e funding, the cost relating to the acquisition. the acquisition of any leasehold interests of any Airline or other tenant of the airport, including any Conte. or other tenant of the airport including any contractual, right? Of any Airline under any right of any Airline under any Airline, use agreement or special facility. Financing arrangements and F the special facility, financing arrangements and F the payment of cost of issuance incurred in connection with of cost of issuance, incurred in connection with issuing, the Midway bonds, the airport. the Midway bonds, the airport is owned and operated by the city. The city will issue the Midway, bonds pursuant. city. The city will issue the Midway, bonds, pursuant to its powers, as a home rule unit of government under the 1970 constitution of the state of Illinois, 1970 constitution of the state of Illinois and an ordinance adopted by the city council. adopted by the city council, the Midway bonds will not be a general obligation. general obligation of the city, the state of Illinois, or any political subdivision thereof, but will be special limited obligations of the city. From airport revenues and passenger facility. From airport revenues and passenger facility charges. The Midway bonds will not constitute. Midway bonds will not constitute an indebtedness or a loan of credit of the city. of credit of the city, the state of Illinois, or any political sub. political subdivision of the state of Illinois. Within the meaning of any constitutional limitation or legal provision. No holder of any Midway. Bonds will have the right to compel any exercise of the tax. right to compel any exercise of the taxing power of the city, the state of Illinois. city, the state of Illinois, the United States of America, or any political sub. or any political subdivision of any of them to pay the principal. principal of Premium, if any or interest on the mid, principal of Premium, if any or interest on the Midway bonds, written comments related to the plan to issue. The Midway, bonds must have been sub. Midway, bonds must have been submitted by email to the committee on finance at city of chicago.org no later than 10 a.m. Friday June. 10 a.m. Friday. June 13th. Let the record reflect that. No, written comments were submitted on the project. ladies and gentlemen, if any Resident taxpayer or other interested person attending this hearing desires and opportunity to express their views on the proposed. opportunity to express their views on the proposed plan of Finance for the issuance of Midway bonds. Finance for the issuance of Midway. Bonds and the facilities being financed Andor ref, facilities being financed and or refinanced, please do 1 of the following for those attending this hearing in person, please come up to the microphone. please come up to the microphone and the aisle when your name is called or for those who name is called, or for those who have called in, on the toll-free line, press 9 on your phone. And then press star 6 to unmute the phone. Um, each speaker is limited to 3 minutes is is limited to 3 minutes. Is there any member of the public taxpayer interested person who wishes to make a statement with respect to this? with respect to this matter? We have 1 person who has signed up to speak on. We have 1 person who has signed up to speak on Midway bonds. And that is Mr. George Blakemore. I also want to acknowledge that alderman. I also want to acknowledge that Alderman Rodriguez has joined us and will be counted towards quorum. Is to speak on. Is to speak on is something inherently wrong here. With the amount of money that will be spent. That you only have 1. That you only have 1 citizen to speak. and, And while I'm speaking or the, the gentleman right down here. Mr. Martin and the other and here. Mr. Morton and the other and and Mr. Moore, they ignoring me That they caring on the side. That they caring on the side composition. This is this is That they caring on the side composition. This is, this is disrespectful. Of your position. Of your position once the public come to the mic. Of your position. Once the public come to the mic, you are a public servant. You must Play like you want to hear from the? Play like you want to hear from the public he was you shouldn't be that arrogant. Now, perhaps the way this is set up here. set up here, it used to what what we used to win. set up here, it used to what, what we used to win Burke was here. We would go up here. here. We would go up here and see and then the people will face us. So the now you are scared. Probably Now, you have to turn around. There's something inherently wrong with the whole system. It's broke. So, this Voodoo economic So this voodoo economics that you're seeing you're saying, is that the city. is that the city will not be held responsible, but is that the city will not be held responsible but this is a City Airport. And you. And you kicking the board book down the road. All kind of jobs are going to be, uh, and buying property and Noise with people that live in the area. So my Pacific. Pacific, uh, uh, What I think is wrong with. what I think is wrong with this whole thing, it that's going on with with going on with, with these airports black people are not getting anything. They've been left. They've been left out. They've been played on. They've been played on by their leadership. Non leadership black. Non leadership Black Faces in high places. how much money the How much money the dollars and cents that the black community is going to. community is going to receive for these jobs Goods contracts. contracts, and service. All right, how much I mean, with this concession, How how, how much are they going to be selling? I'm repeating myself wine. repeating myself, wine beer, souvenirs, how many black girls? house will be made. how many when you extend and build these airports how many black workers will be there? so, So were you there Mr? Blakemore When They Crucified? Lord their crucified God's people Lord, they are crucified God's people. All people black people right now. Right now. And when I finish, somebody say, Right now. And when I finish somebody say let me shut up Mr. Blakemore we Mr. Blakemore, we don't respect you, you don't respect yourself. I took off this hand and put the red hat on, but I'm on my way about to flip read to I'm on my way about to flip, read to go read. But my ultimate aim is to go black, the Empower my people to get these jobs good. Thank you, Mr. Blakemore, ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the public hearing on the proposed plan for the city of Chicago. city of Chicago, to issue to not exceed. city of Chicago to issue to not exceed, 445 million principal amount of the Chicago, Midway Airport, senior, lean revenue bonds. Let the record reflect that the public hearing on this matter was concluded, hearing on this matter was concluded at 10:41 a.m. June 16 2025 this concludes the tephra hearing. Um, we will acknowledge all demand silver. acknowledge all demand Silverstein and Alderman Vasquez who were here for this meeting. The committee on finance is called to. The committee on finance is called to order. We'll now have a roll call to establish. a roll call to establish quorum. Vice chair Conway. Alderman. Alderman laspada, Alderman, Hopkins. Alderman laspada, Alderman. Hopkins Alderman Hall. Almond Mitchell. Alder. Mitchell Alderman, Harris? Alderman Beal, Alderman, Lee. Alderman, Ramirez, Alderman, Quinn. Alderman, Ramirez Alderman, Quinn Alderman Lopez. Alderman Moore. Alderman. Curtis Alderman. OSHA. Alderman. Alderman Mosley. Alderman Rodriguez. Alderman Rodriguez, Alderman Scott. Alderman. Alderman, CEO Lopez Alderman. Tally far. Alderman, CEO Lopez Alderman. Tally Farrell Alderman. Cardona. Al Alderman. Cardona, alderman waguespack. Alderman Rodriguez. Sanchez, Alderman, Quezada alderman. Viegas ah, Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no, no, no. Not yet. Got you. Um, yet. Got you? Um, Alderman, spaz. Alderman. Alderman, Vasquez Alderman, Reilly Al Alderman Vasquez Alderman, Reilly Alderman, kson, Alderman. Martin Alderman Silverstein chair dowel is here. Alderman Beal is here. We have. We have a quorum. We have 21, um, alderman. We have a quorum, we have 21, um, Alderman Bernett, viegas Irvin Taylor and mid. Irvin Taylor and mids have requested to participate remotely at today's meeting. Remotely at today's meeting for reasons, stated under the provision of rule. provision of rule 59. Can I have a motion to allow these Alderman to participate? Some moved by Alderman, Scott. Some moved by Alderman. Scott all those in favor signify by saying I I by saying I I oppose and the opinion of the chair, the eyes, have it and have it and the motion carries and I want to confirm that all Alderman brunette. Viegas Urban Taylor and mitts are present. present and joined today's meeting. At this time. at this time, we will begin the public comment period the public comment period will be limited to 330. public comment period, will be limited to 3 30 minutes out of respect for everyone's time each. of respect. For everyone's Time. Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. We have 1 speaker this morning and no remote speakers. So uh, Mr. Blakemore You're up. Sometime 1, start. Sometime 1 star can light up the darkness. 1. 1 star and Light Up The Darkness. Something. Something is wrong here? This is the regular finance committee. This is the regular finance committee meeting. How many times have I been here? times have I been here to see millions of dollars? times have I been here to see millions of dollars being spent. On police abuse. Police abuse. And the people. And the people that the police are abusing. 90% of the time. They are black. Driving. While black walking. driving while black walking while black working while black In prison. Eincar. Incarcerated. What is the percentage of black people? Incarcerated. What is the percentage of black people that are in detail holes? Now, I'm talking again. are in detail holes? Now, I'm talking again you see them right over here. You. You see how disrespectful? Right of Conway. In this other gentleman, we will always Right. Of Conway in this other gentleman, we will always walk They will better when Brooke was here. When cel. when Celeste was here because he's not getting any When Celeste was here because he's not getting any better. It's getting worse. it's getting worse, even though they might have been It's getting worse, even though they might have been corrupt, but they would never disrespect. but they would never disrespect a citizen and sometime when they were disrespect me and start carrying on a conversation, broke with Bam, Bam, Bam, B. conversation broke with Bam. Bam Bam, Bam order here. Breakfast. Burke would say order here. They are out of. They are out of control here. Completely. Completely out of control here. Something is evil here. Something is unamerican here. This is a sense. is a cesspool here, they're all Democrats. No check and balance, and they balance and they all are self-service. I have a cure for this. What is? I have a cure for this. What is the cure time, limitation? Oh, you're so loud. What is the cure again? Oh, you're so loud. What is the cure again time limitation. you come in and you do your You come in and you do your little 4 years and then you do. another 4, if the people want you and then you're out. I have. I have figured this out. They have been here. They have been here too long. way too long and they, Way too long and they what if it's a revolving door from 1? Hall pin, the county To. To the city, to the city, to the county. To the city, to the city, to the county, maybe you might have to have. have to have a limit if you have worked in the city. have to have a limit if you have worked in the city, good after your 8 years, you don't flip over to the county. Some thank you Mr. Blake Moore. Alderman, Lawson and Alderman, not Alderman, Lawson and Alderman. Not harping words will be counted as members non-members. Um, thank you for your presence today. Um, there are no questions that ends the uh, public comment period and we'll begin with our monthly rule. 45 approval of the May 2025 monthly rule, 45 report that report was sent electronically to everyone. that report was sent electronically to everyone, um, if there are no objections or questions can there are no objections or questions, can I get a motion to recommend approval of the monthly rule, 45 report So moved by alderman laspada. all those in favor of the motion signify by saying, I all those in favor of the motion signify by saying I I opposed in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, we have a total of 15 items on the agenda this morning. Um, have a total of 15 items on the agenda this morning. Um and we'll begin with item number 1, which is a communic. communication transmitting reports of cases in which verdicts, verdicts judgements or settlements were entered into. verdicts judgements or settlements were entered into for the month of May 2025 the list of payments approved was sent electronically. sent electronically to everyone. And if there are no objections this item will objections, this item will be placed on file with the clerk. Item. Number 2. uh, are 4 proposed. are 4 proposed orders authorizing The Corporation Council to enter into and execute settlement orders in the following cases. Raphael, following cases. Raphael Alcantara versus City of Chicago at all. at all case number. 20. 2022. L 0007. 2022 L, 0007272, 71 in the 2022 L 0007272 71 in the amount of $100,000. Um, we're joined this morning by Deputy Corporation Council Margaret mendenhal Casey to address the committee. mendenhal Casey to address the committee morning. Good morning chair. Thank you on. morning chair. Thank you on July 18th of 2022, officers Michael Brown and Kylie McMahon were heading to a call. A few seconds before entering. A few seconds before, entering the intersection of Western in full. and Fullerton. On a red light, the officers activated Sirens, but did not activate lights. Sirens, but did not activate lights plaintiff. Rafael a contour who was then 24. was then 24 years old entered, the intersection with the right of way. right of way while driving the speed limit and struck the police. police car. Raphael sustained. A hip. Raphael sustained, a hip and leg fracture, the Department of Law recommend. Law recommends, settlement in the amount of $400,000 on Law recommends, settlement, in the amount of $400,000 on this matter. At around 1:30. At around 1:30 a.m. officer Brown who was the driver and MCM. McMahon the passenger heard a call of suspected. McMahon the passenger heard a call of suspected drag racing transmitted over the radio. Officer Brown began driving toward the scene. officer Brown began driving toward the scene and proceeded through 3 intersections without incident. Then officer Brown accelerated. Then officer Brown accelerated up to 57 miles per hour as he approached. he approached the intersection of Fullerton and Western and only slowed down to 27 miles per hour. only slowed down to 27 miles per hour before entering that intersection. He? He turned on his Sirens 1 to 2 seconds. He turned on his Sirens 1 to 2 seconds before going into the intersection but did not turn on. the intersection, but did not turn on his lights. the officer also entered, the The officer also entered the intersection on a red light. Officer Brown. Officer Brown narrowly missed hitting a motorcycle. Officer Brown narrowly missed hitting a motorcycle, then plaintiff Raphael's car, hit the police. plaintiff Raphael's car. Hit the police car at the time of the accident. Rafael had the green light and was traveling at the speed. at the speed limit body, worn camera, captures the accident. A lieutenant on scene. A lieutenant on scene, advised Rafael that the accident was not his fault. not his fault, and that is also captured on body worn camera. The traffic review board, deemed the accident preventable. and warranted a reprimand to both officers. and warranted a reprimand to both officers, including attending Driving School driver. Officer Brown also received a 1-day suspension. received a 1-day suspension from Bia. Raphael. Rafael sustained a broken leg and hip and underwent. Rafael sustained a broken leg and hip, and underwent a 6-hour surgery where a plate and screws. 6-hour surgery where a plate and screws were placed following. His surgery, he was left with following his surgery. He was left with a 12-in scar on his leg and a scar. leg and a scar less than an inch on his knee. Raphael was Hospital. hospitalized for 2 days and received 5 months of physical, therapy, his medical bills total. therapy, his medical bills, total $158,000, and he is not claiming lost. claiming lost wages. The plaintiff initially demanded. The plaintiff initially demanded 1 million dollars in this matter at trial. matter at trial plentiful seek compensation for medical bills, pain. bills, pain, and suffering, loss of normal life, emotional distress, and distress and disfigurement the Department of Law recommend recommends, settlements, in the amount of $400,000 on this. matter. Thank you, Margaret. Want to acknowledge Alderman, Mitch. Want to acknowledge Alderman Mitchell and Alderman Lopez got you. Um, any questions? Got you. Um. Any questions on this case here? Members of the committee. Alderman Moore. Could you use the mic? Sorry, chair. That was the Could you use the mic? Sorry chair. That was the 400,000. You said 400,000 that's accurate and and I I'm probably missed this in the briefing. Did you say somebody just said That it wasn't. That it wasn't their fault who who made that statement. So the lieutenant on scene, advised the plaintiff that the accident. accident was not his fault. Okay, thank you. Jim. I see. No other questions. Can I get a motion to move for approval of this matter? So moved by Alderman, Lee recommending. recommending due pass all those in favor of the fifth, this motion signify, by saying, I, I, motion signify by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes, have it and the chair of the eyes, have it. And the due pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city. recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Thank you Margaret. the next case to be, The next case to be William Carter versus Ronald Watts at all. all case, number 17, C 724. all. Case, number 17, C 7241 and the amount of 2.1 million we're joined by uh, Deputy Corporation. we're joined by, uh, Deputy Corporation Council Victoria Benson good morning. Good morning. Thank you. Good morning everyone. Uh, Victoria Benson Deputy Corporation Council in the mass tors and complex litigation division. I am here today to request your approval for the settlement of a federal law. of a federal lawsuit filed by plaintiff William Carter seeking. seeking to recover damages for the prosecution's arising from his multiple arrests by former Sergeant Ronald watts and Chicago. and Chicago police officers assigned to a tactical team of which he was the sergeant, Plaintiff's allegations include. Plaintiff's allegations include claims that he was maliciously. Prosecuted, that officers. maliciously. Prosecuted, that officers fabricated evidence against him, and that he was unlawfully. against him and that he was unlawfully, detained pre-trial. Lena also makes Moines. Lena also makes monel and democracy claims against the city, the Law Department. city, the Law Department recommends, a settlement in this matter, in the amount of 2.1 million matter and the amount of 2.1 million dollars. plaintiff alleges that each of his 3 arrests by watts and or members of the team of which or members of the team of, which Watts was the sergeant for fabricated evidence. for fabricated evidence with each arrest plaintiff was charged with. charged with narcotics related offenses, and prosecuted prosecutions. He claims were malicious and based upon fabricated evidence. Plaintiff was first arrested by watts and other officers. Plaintiff was first arrested by watts and other officers on March, 3rd 2004. The parties dispute. The parties dispute how and why that arrest occurred? Plaintiff was given an. Plaintiff was given an ibond for this arrest and thus did not spend any time in custody. not spend any time in custody after his arrest was processed. A few months later. However, on June 18th 2004 while released on bond for his March 3rd, 2004 arrest. released on bond for his March 3rd. 2004 arrest plaintiff was again, arrested by members of the Tactical Team of, which was a sergeant Again, the parties dispute how and why that? Again, the dep parties dispute how and why that arrest occurred? In September 2004. In September 2004, while plaintiffs criminal charges, were pending the FBI. pending the FBI jointly with cpds internal affairs, division B. division began investigating allegations that Watts former officer kholat Muhammad and other members of Watts's Tactical Team. Tactical Team were engaged in Acts of corruption that included collecting. included collecting Street taxes from drug dealers. That would allow them to continue. would allow them to continue their business without being arrested and also arresting arrested. And also arresting sometimes, falsely those individuals involved in the drug trade, who refused to pay the tax. while that investigation was, pending plaintiff plead guilty to his March 3rd and June 18th, 2004 arrests, guilty to his March 3rd and June 18th 2004 arrests on December 16th 2004, In exchange for his guilty, pleas plaintiff was sentenced to 2 years. to 2 years probation for both arrests. To be served. to be served concurrently plaintiff, however, violated his probation. plaintiff, however, violated his probation which resulted in his, then being sentenced to boot camp Within in his, then being sentenced to boot camp within the Cook County Department of Corrections. On. On May 19th 2006 while the joint investigation. on May 19th 2006 while the joint investigation by the FBI and cpd's Internal Affairs division was and cpd's Internal Affairs. Division was proceeding plaintiff was again, arrested by members of the Tactical Team of which Watts was a sergeant. Again, the parties. Again, the parties dispute how and why the arrest occurred? During the criminal. during the criminal proceedings, in that matter, plaintiff filed a motion to quash, his filed a motion to quash his arrest and suppress evidence which was denied. He then elected to proceed to a jury trial, which took place on January. place on January, 31st and February 1st, 2007. In. in his defense, the plaintiff called multiple witnesses to corroborate, his version of events. however, the jury ultimately found the plaintiff guilty, and he was sentenced to 9 years at the Illinois Department of Corrections with 292 days credit, Corrections with 292 days credit for his time in custody at Cook County Jail, awaiting trial. Plaintiff did appeal his conviction but it was affirmed on appeal. The Joint investigation by the FBI. The Joint investigation by the FBI and cpd's Internal Affairs division. Culminated in a federal Affairs division. Culminated in a Federal indictment in February 2012. When Watson February 2012, when watts and Muhammad were federally charged with theft of government funds, charged with theft of government funds based on evidence from a sting operation that occurred a few months, from a sting operation that occurred a few months earlier, Both watts and Muhammad pled guilty to those. both watts and Muhammad pled guilty to those charges and both serve sentences in federal prison. Additional Integrity checks were then done to. Additional Integrity checks were then done to see if any of other members of Watts's team. other members of Watts's team were engaged in corruption with negative results. explained if then use watts and Muhammad's convictions is newly discovered evidence in support of his position, petitions seeking to overturn his convictions. Those convictions were vac. Those convictions were vacated on July 10th, 2017 and on September. September 14th, 2017. He was granted a certificate of innocence for each of the aforementioned convictions. In total plaintiff claims have spent approximately 4. in total plaintiff claims have spent approximately 4.31 years in custody for convictions attributable, to watts to arrest, by watts and officers assigned to arrest by watts and officers assigned to the Tactical Team of which he was the sergeant. Given the. Given the risk associated with proceeding to trial in this case, including the risk. case, including the risks of attorney's fees. We recommend settling this matter for 2.1 million Thank you. Thank you, Victoria. Uh, any questions from members. Thank you Victoria. Uh, any questions from members of the committee. Seeing no. Seeing no questions. Is there a motion to recommend approval of item? Number 2B? So moved by. So moved by Alderman cam, Vice chair, Conway recommending. due pass, all those in favor of the motion sign. due pass, all those in favor of the motion signify by saying, I opposed, and the Opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and we will report. and we will report this out at the next council meeting. Thank you very much. Thank you very much Victoria. um, the next case 2C Bernard Williams versus Kristen KO at atall case number 21 C 81. Atall case number 21, C, 819 in the amount of 7.5 million we are joined today by deputy corpore we are joined today by Deputy Corporation Council Jessica Felker. Good morning. Felker, good morning Jessica, good morning chair. Thank you very much. Uh, the Law Department, recommends settlement in this reverse conv, in this reverse conviction lawsuit, for 7.5 million, in this reverse conviction, lawsuit for 7.5 million, this is a reverse conviction, case are is a reverse conviction, case arising from the convictions of plaintiff, Bernard Williams and criminal code defendant D'Angelo Johnson for the August 23rd. 1996 murder of D'Angelo Johnson for the August 23rd, 1996 murder of Gary Thomas. In 2019. The Illinois, Appellate Court vacated Williams con. conviction following the recantation of 2 eyewitness. conviction following the recantation of 2. Eyewitnesses in 2023, the special prosecutor retried him, but Williams was acquitted. William spent approximately 23 years. acquitted. William spent approximately 23 years in custody his co-defendent. However, his co-defendent, however, Johnson, his conviction remains intact, the recommended settlement here of The recommended settlement here of 7.5 million amounts to approximately. approximately 326,000 per year of custody. The fatal shooting of Gary Thomas occurred on August 23rd 1999. 1996 around 4:45 p.m. outside. 1996 around 4:45 p.m. outside of Cavern called washes place on the 421. at the, At the time of the shooting, Thomas was standing in front of the tavern. of the tavern with 3 fellow Dogpound gang members 1 of those Dogpound game members. Martin. Martin Nash was interviewed and stated that he observed 2 mehm. members of The Traveling, Vice Lords approached his group members of The Traveling, Vice Lords approached, his group, pull out, handguns, and begin shooting. Nash told the police that he did not recognize the shooters as somebody he knew, but it was possible. as somebody he knew, but it was possible that another dog pound member Eric Smith May pound member Eric Smith may be able to identify them. Smith was. Smith was interviewed and relayed that he knew he knew 1 of the shooters was named Bernard based on that information. the shooters was named Bernard based on that information Smith was shown a photo array including Bernard Williams. Smith was shown a photo array including Bernard Williams and Smith identified Bernard Williams as 1 of the shooters. A friend of Williams stated that Williams. A friend of Williams stated that Williams bragged, that he and D'Angelo Johnson committed the shooting. Nash later. Identified both. Nash later identified, both Williams and Johnson in a lineup. Williams was. Williams was arrested for the murder on September 11th 1996. and according to detective, Christine and according to detective Christine kado and Patricia sosinski sicinski A orally confessed to his in. A orally confessed to his involvement in the murder, but he refused to talk to the 2. refused to talk to the 2 States attorneys when they attempted to interview him. As a result Williams confession was not reduced to written form, other than in the detectives report. Johnson, underwent a polygraph. Johnson. Underwent a polygraph where I was determined. He was being deceptive. according to detectives kado and Cerrone, when According to detectives kado and Cerrone when they confront when they confronted him with the failed. when they confronted him with the failed polygraph Johnson admitted to shooting and said, Williams was the other shooter Johnson, gave a handwritten statement to the assistant State's Attorney as did Williams. assistant State's Attorney as did Williams's friend. At Williams first Criminal. at Williams, first criminal trial in November 1998, Nash was the only eyewitness to testify and identify Williams and Johnson as The Shooters? Johnson as The Shooters Williams also testified in his own. defense denying that he ever confessed and the judge found him guilty nonetheless Williams challenged, his conviction and during Williams's post conviction Pro. and during Williams's post conviction proceedings. In 2015, Nash recanted Nash, recanted his trial testimony and testified that Williams was not 1 of the shooters. He claimed that the police showed him a photograph, police showed him, a photograph of Williams and told him to go along with it. He also claimed that he was paid by the State's Attorney's. State's Attorney's office to identify Williams at the criminal trial. identify Williams at the criminal trial. Nash is now deceased Smith also testified in the post conviction. Smith also testified in the post conviction, proceedings and denied Williams was 1 of the shooters. and denied, Williams was 1 of the shooters Smith testified that he never identified Williams in the photo. that he never identified Williams in the photo array. And that williams' photo was circled when he viewed the array. We have come to this settlement early. we have come to this settlement early in the litigation, although Johnson has not been deposed yet. We expect that, he will recant his statement. Implicating he will recant his statement implicating Williams as a shooter and testify to further police misconduct faith. based on the arguments he made in his underlying criminal proceedings. Given that he remains convicted. However, Johnson will not be able to testify that he himself. be able to testify that he himself is innocent. this case boils down to a This case boils down to a credibility, determination between Williams and the recanting witnesses. between Williams and the recanting witnesses, and the detectives. although, although detective kado who was involved in this case, has had no verdict against him or complaint sustained. He does have. have a history of allegations against him. There is no physical evidence tying Williams to the murder and no written statement. Implicating Williams's involvement. written statement. Implicating Williams's involvement in the murder. He Witnesses Nash. He Witnesses, Nash and Smith have recanted their identifications of Williams as a shooter. Furthermore, a jury has acquitted. jury has acquitted Williams with the evidence that remains today. Williams. Williams has not sought a certificate of Innocence. He's currently in county jail, following his recent arrests for a felony. Williams originally demanded. 15 million in January 2025 the parties, negotiated settlement of 7.5 million. the parties. Negotiated settlement of 7.5 million subject, to city council approval. This. this case is still early in discovering, if the settlement is not approved, Discovery will continue given the risks and the attorney's fees that the city would incur. And Williams and Williams Council would. and Williams and Williams Council would receive if he is a successful at trial, the department of successful at trial, the Department of Law, recommends, settlement in the amount of 7.5 million, Thank you very much. Uh, Jessica any questions from members of the Any questions from members of the committee. Seeing. Seeing no questions. Can I get a motion to recommend appro? approval of item number 2C? So moved by Alderman, laspata recommending. so moved by Alderman, laspata, recommending do pass all those in favor of the motion signify by saying, I I opposed and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, and the due pass recommend, pass recommendation on this matter we will be reported out at the next council meeting. Next case is yours. Next case is yours too. Huh? Yep. Voice for Lucky. 1 always the lucky. 1 James Gibson versus item 2 D. James Gibson versus City of Chicago at all. versus City of Chicago at all case. Number 19, seavey 4152. in the amount of 14.75 million. Uh, again we're joined by Jessica Felker, Deputy Corporation Council, Jessica Felker, Deputy Corporation Council Jessica, The Law Department recommends settlement. The Law Department recommends settlement of this case for 14.75 million. 14.75 million plaintiff, James Gibson brought this reverse conviction. conviction lawsuit against retired and deceased Chicago Police. police officers, including Jon Burge, alleging, they caused his wrongful conviction. Gibson was convicted. On December 22nd. On December 22nd, 1981 or 1989? Excuse me. On December 22nd, 1981 or 1989? Excuse me, uh, Of the murders of. of the murders of Lloyd, Benjamin and Hunter, wash Benjamin, and wash, were shot to death outside, Wash's garage at 1118 West 58th Street Gibson. West, 58th Street, Gibson claims that he made an inculpatory statement as a result of his torture at the hands of officers who worked for John Burr. hands of officers, who worked for John Burge. His conviction was ultimately vacated and charges. conviction was ultimately vacated and charges dismissed in 2019 in total. total Gibson spent approximately 29 and a half years in custody before his conviction was vacated. the Law Department, recommends settling this case for the Law Department recommends settling this case for 14.75 million or approximately 500,000 dollars per year in cussed. custody The murder investigation here. The murder investigation here, centered around Gibson, AKA Peter Gunn. Keith AKA KD and Fernando Webb AKA boating. Keith AKA KD and Fernando Webb AKA boating detectives reported that the word around the neighborhood was pet. reported that the word around the neighborhood was Peter Gunn was the shooter and either KD or B. Gunn was the shooter and either KD or Bodin were involved Gibson had Peter Gunn test Gibson. Had Peter Gunn tattooed on his arm. Gibson was in the police station. Gibson was in the police station from December 27th to December 30th. Being questioned until he was ultimately let go without. let go without charges defendants, say he stayed voluntarily. While Gibson denies and says, he was voluntarily. While Gibson denies and says he was held against his will. Gibson. And Gibson and KD were interrogated. Several times. Originally denying. denying involvement, but police reports State as they were interviewed. interviewed their stories changed and they became they increasingly implicated 1 another detectives reported that Gibson's last statement that he was present at the garage when Benjamin and wash were shot. And saw Katie give voting a gun. and saw Katie give voting a gun and shoot both victims. He did not deny he he denied being involved in the shooting himself, he admitted only that he shot saw it. Gibson was then. then released after Gibson was released his sister then. reported to the office of Professional Standards. The predecessor of Copa that defendants Omar And Collins punched kipped. And and Collins punched kipped and slapped, and threatened Gibson that complaint was investigated, and the complaint was not sustained. sustained KD remained in custody according to sustained KD remained in custody. According to detectives Katie, ultimately told them that Gibson had made plans to Rob Benjamin. Katie said his sisters Carla and Janice had been present when Gibson. when Gibson stated his plan. Haiti said that Gibson. Haiti said that Gibson had a gun with him and on the day of the shooting, the shooting uh Gibson offered KD 50, the shooting uh Gibson offered KD, 50 to be a look at according to Detectives. according to detectives Katie stated that he was at the scene and saw Gibson shoot. scene and saw Gibson, shoot, Benjamin, and that Gibson later, admitted to the shooting. Bodin denied. Bodin denied involvement but said he saw Peter Gunn AK. Bodin denied involvement. But said he saw, Peter Gunn, AKA Gibson standing next to Wash's garage with a gun. But Bodin left, before anything happened. left. Before anything happened and did not hear any shots Bodin testified, Bodin testified against Gibson at its trial. But died. But died in the mid 1990s so he could not be deposed in this. this case, After Katie's and boating statement. After Katie's and boating statements Gibson was arrested on December 31st. December, 31st and did not make any further statements. Katie's sister, Carla was interviewed and gave a statement that she overheard Gibson discuss planning to Rob. that she overheard Gibson discuss planning to Rob Benjamin and possibly shooting him. She also said that she saw Gibson with a gun on the day of the murder. Katie's Sister Janice gave a statement that Gibson said he planned to Rob Benjamin. On January 2nd. Gibson's public defenders investigators. On January 2nd Gibson's public defenders. Investigator took photos of Gibson and wrote that. photos of Gibson and wrote that Gibson's chest and buttocks appeared swollen. The medical records from surac hospital on January. The medical records from surac hospital. On January, 3rd state that Gibson had bruising on his left. state that Gibson had bruising on his left ribs. And that he told the hospital that he was told the hospital that he was hit by police. Gibson was convicted on. Gibson was convicted on October 8th 1990 and sentenced to life. In prison KD was in was convicted in January. life. In prison KD was in was convicted in January 1991. KD however, later entered in a plea agreement, where his original conviction was vacated and he plead guilty in exchange for a sentence of time, served in his plea, he implicated himself in Gibson in the murders and Katie's con. conviction remains intact but he claims that his statement conviction remains intact, but he claims that his statement to detectives were false and, And a result of abuse. Gibson filed a claim with a torture inquiry and relief Commission in 2012. Commission, in 2012. Gibson claimed that he was beaten by numerous police. numerous police officers. Gibson was eventually granted a new trial by the Appellate Court on April 4th, 2019. new trial by the Appellate Court on April, 4th 2019 on April 26th. 2019, special, prosecutor agreed to dismiss dismiss the case. Gibson was granted a certificate of innocence in February 2020. After the State's Attorney's office, Office declined to intervene. This case is essentially about. This case is essentially about whether the jury believes Gibson was physically and psychologically. Gibson was physically and psychologically abused. During his interrogation, resulting in a statement. his interrogation, resulting in a statement, although there are no allegations in this case that Burge interviewed or interrogated, Gibson during the investigation. interrogated. Gibson during the investigation, Burge is named because he allegedly supervised those involved, in this case, currently 5 of the 11, In this case, currently 5 of the 11 defendant officers are deceased and cannot testify a trial. deceased and cannot testify a trial to these allegations. Plaintiff. Initially demanded. 65 million to settle. case. On March 31st, 20. on March, 31st 2025, the parties reached a settlement of 14.7 M, 5 million inclusive of attorneys fees. 14.7 M, 5 million inclusive of attorneys fees and costs subject to city council approval. subject to city council approval, of course. this again, was at a rate of this again was at a rate of approximately, 500,000 dollars per year of custody for the 29 and a half years that Gibson was Gibson was incarcerated at the time of the settlement. summary judgement was pending. And trial was set. summary judgement was pending and trial was set. If Council does not authorize this settlement, the court will rule on summary judgement and the trial date will be reset. Because of the risks involved, the department. Because of the risks involved, the Department of Law recommends settling for 4 1 4. 7, recommends settling for 4 1 4. 7 5, Thank you, Jessica. Thank you. Jessica would like to acknowledge Alderman Harris and Harris, and Alderman, viegas who was remote, but is Harris and Alderman, viegas, who was remote, but is now with us any questions on this case, Alderman. Viegas. Alderman. Viegas I heard you. Alderman V, I guess. Thank you, madam. Thank you, madam chair. Um, just a quick question. Um, well, actually actually, a comment that a question. I'm glad to see that we're finally. we're finally getting to a point where we're settling these. There's multiple cases that were behind. Um how are we paying? we paying for the settlements? I I don't think that's a question for me. Um, I can tell you that there's a settlement in judgement fund for that, set every year. set every year in the budget. Um, but as far as where that money comes from, if you're asking that I don't know. Um, so what we've already surpassed. um, so what we've already surpassed it, right, we had budgeted 82 million and we're at about 1:40 now and this is halfway through the year. So I suspect that there's another 100 million in the pipeline. 100 million in the pipeline uh, for this year which would put us at 3 times. put us at 3 times the amount. Uh, and where I'm going is that ultem that ultimately these will be paid through bonds potentially. potentially, is that an accurate? I I have again, no idea. I don't work for the budget office so I I don't, I don't work for the budget office, so, I I don't know how I like to find out if that has not been discussed. I like to find out if that has not been discussed that in terms of the use of bonds to pay. terms of the use of bonds to pay the legal settlements. you know, when we did the last You know, when we did the last Bond deal that was taken out. So there's no um, opportunity for that right now. out. So there's no um, opportunity for that right now, okay? I'm just, I'm, I I'm just I'm I think I'm just trying to uh, Enlighten my colle. colleagues in it. Given the huge liability there at some point. That's a potential. uh, option that will be utilized, which Uh option that will be utilized which in turn would put the statement. That was done. statement. That was done a couple weeks ago where we don't use bonds to pay. use bonds to pay for cap for operations. Uh, this is exact exactly what we're talking about. At some point, we're going to have to utilize some type of funding source in order to pay these settlements that are out there. Um, so just wanted to put that on the record. Thank you Alderman. Any other questions? Any other questions related to this case, Alderman Lopez? Thank you, chairman and good morning. Thank you, chairman and good morning, members of the committee. I I want to actually expound on what our colleague from the 36. 36 Ward said, because I think it's not just something that we can ignore. The fact is we have 25 million dollars? The fact is we have 25 million dollars in settlements right now today that we are approving correct. Roughly. Yeah. Roughly Roughly. Yeah, roughly my math 24.5. I think um, we're paying out of a budget, that's We're paying out of a budget. That's already been tapped. In May. In May last month according to the Chicago Tribune. in May last month according to the Chicago Tribune in a statement issued by Budget director Guzman. The. The Tribune reported that according to OBM. We have 150 million dollars. Spread. Throughout the city's entire general fund to pay for lawsuit. lawsuits. Even though what we budgeted. Even though what we budgeted for. This year and the year before, and the year. This year and the year before, and the year before that, going back to 2020 was 82.6 Million every single year. Um, the statement goes on to say and I quote, it is difficult to predict estimate what we will settle difficult to predict estimate, what we will settle when it will settle and how much it will likely settle often times. 1 year, before it does end quote. um, I think it would be prudent Madam chairman. I think it would be prudent Madam chairman, if the committee on Budget moving forward. Allocates. Allocates additional funds so that we know exactly where these budgets. these budgets are coming from because to be perfectly honest. I should not only do I share my colleagues concern, but it's actually, actually very Reckless to say yes to things that we don't know how we're paying. don't know how we're paying. None of us can pay a bill without knowing where the money is in our own households. None of us, can simply say yes. And None of us can simply say, yes and not know what we have to cut to make those payments. If This Were my house or your house or any 1 of our houses, We would not be able to Simply say. we would not be able to Simply say, let's take on this payment that we owe without knowing what we have to sacrifice to make it happen. We often times hear many of our colleagues say that, you know, we can't say no. know, we can't say no, you have to pay the bill. But we don't know how we're paying it. We don't know where we're cutting it from and to just make this assumption that the money. to just make this assumption that the money just magically is in a 17.1 billion dollar. is in a 17.1 billion dollar budget that we've passed that we could just pull from without knowing which department is going to feel the pinch. Isn't fair, not only to our department. isn't fair, not only to our departments, but to those taxpayers who are foot at The Who taxpayers who are foot at the foot the bill and expect services to be there. If this is going to be taken from police with, police with cuts to overtime, then we should know if this is going to be taken, is going to be taken from streets and sanitation with cuts towards garbage collection. towards garbage collection and Red Road. And abatement we should know is this coming from should know, is this coming from C dot to stop? Filling holes and why? It's taking so long to and why? It's taking so long to fix light bulbs? We should know. And I think that until we have those real serious, conversations with OBM and with our committee on budget, budget and government operations, it's very Reckless for us to sit here and and approve these It's very Reckless for us to sit here and, and approve these settlements in this fashion. Thank you. Thank you. Aldwin laspata followed by Allman Vasquez. Thank you so much chair. I mean, Certainly, I would have prefer. Certainly, I would have preferred in light of the conversation here today. conversation here today that Jon Burge was not torturing. confessions out of people. When I was in elementary confessions out of people when I was in elementary school so that we wouldn't be having this conversation. Now all of these Decisions. The actions that we're talking about. Perceived my time in government. I want to call out anything that was being. I want to call out anything that was being discussed in terms of reduction in Services would most terms of reduction in Services, would most likely require fund 925 or fund. 925 Ordnance, is that accurate to alter the budget in that sense. Uh, I don't know the answer to that question. That's fair. I think it, it's I think it it's logical to me that cuts and services. cuts and services cannot be made unilaterally uh, without Cuts and services cannot be made unilaterally uh, without council's consent. And I'm sure somebody can provide that detail through the chair Yeah. Also, I would say like this is An. an, this isn't a really case of, if we don't, an, this isn't a really case of, if we don't vote on this, then nothing. Then nothing happens if we don't vote on this today. Is it accurate that it's likely to? Is it accurate that it's likely to go to trial in the near future? Yes, that's accurate. Uh, we will get a summary judgement. ruling and it had already been set for trial and that was stricken. stricken um while this settlement is pending and so it will be reset for trial. If this does not pass Is it fair to assume that if it went? To trial. And there was a guilty verdict that would and there was a guilty verdict, that would be Significantly more than the. Significantly more than the settlement that we're discussing today. Yes. The as I mentioned, he was in just under 30 years so it's possible that we get a verdict of $30 million up to a hundred. hundred million dollars. Of course, we can't predict, but we have a liability as far as that goes. and, and in the conversation around, the And in the conversation around the, the word recklessness was used by a colleague. The idea is that our, our fiduciary responsibility is to reduce and mitigate risk. fiduciary responsibility is to reduce and mitigate risk on of the taxpayers, is that accurate Yes. Okay. So Yes. Okay, so based off of all of the Even as it's uncomfortable. Even as it's uncomfortable to have to reckon with these decisions. And with the decisions end with the dollar amount. So we're talking about it, it feels like the responsible choice, even if it's uncomfort. it's uncomfortable choice to vote. Yes. On the settlement that we're discussing. I just wanted to put that perspective out there. Thank you chair. Thank you, Alderman. I wanted to uh respond. Alderman. I wanted to uh, respond something that um Alderman Lopez said, I don't think that the way we're paying these funds impacts on. paying these funds impacts on The Cutting of services at this point. this point, we pay these funds from different. this point, we pay these funds from different, um, obviously, from the budget. obviously from the budget allotted line item, but we've also, unfortunately have had our insurance companies, pay some additional part of the settlement, some of the dollars, Part of the settlement, some of the dollars come from Finance General. Um, and I do think we need to have an accounting of where those funds have been taken for in the case of this year. year, which would inform our discussions. year, which would inform our discussions during budget time. So, I'm committed to getting a list like that to the members of the committee. Um, as soon as I can. Alderman Vasquez. Thank you. Chairwoman. Um, Alderman Vasquez, thank you chairwoman. Um and I appreciate the conversation. I think um as a reminder the conversation, I think um as a reminder some Barney um colleagues we have a budget. colleagues we have a budget process that happens. Every single year when we look at the single year. When we look at the CPD budget, it is why there are higher vacancies and some of the overtime funding there. That tends to get moved over to cover the settle. settlements because every Every single year we go. Every single year we go above. What's budgeted we do about an average about 100 million uh in settlements uh to my colleagues point. It's scheduled um appropriated there's 82. 82 million appropriated this year that we've already gone over, but that is why there ends up being these vacancies and CPE that people are calling out and CPE. That people are calling out and some of the overtime. Um, but also why last year during our budget process, we negotiated to get better. process, we negotiated to get better reporting. So quarterly anytime something gets moved from a line item to cover something else, we get a report cover. Something else we get a report uh so that comes typically I think the 4th 7th month, like on the 15th of 7th month. Like on the 15th of that month we'll get that reporting. Also why? At the end of July we get reporting. Also why? At the end of July, we get meteor reports related to how all the funding is going. So reports related to how all the funding is going so that we get that information and understand as we are told every single year, why those funds are moving single year why those funds are moving around. Um, but also, I know. I know we're talking about the expenditures somehow some way we could. way we could prevent it, is to make sure that there's more accountability in place and that some of the behaviors that led to these settlements isn't. led to these settlements isn't continuing. Um which is why um I've been supportive. um, I've been supportive of, uh, Alderman, uh, vagus why, um, I've been supportive of uh Alderman. Uh vasas. Uh ordinance calling for like reporting in a portal related ordinance calling for like, reporting in a portal related to settlements, I'd like to know how much we're actually settling for what Behavior led to it. Are there Trends and patterns that we can get better at address. patterns that we can get better at addressing so that we don't have to end up paying for it later because don't have to end up paying for it later. Because although now we can talk about what these officers did in Burge and everything else. I'm sure. everything else. I'm sure that during the time that was going on, they were getting praised by members of the council. Unbeknownst to what Behavior was. Unbeknownst to what Behavior was happening. And similarly, we can talk about what we think. we can talk about what we think isn't happening. We won't know until the settlements come into the future. And I think we just need to do a better job of addressing the behaviors. So we don't have to continue paying for it. And so I do appreciate. so I do appreciate, we have to make tough decisions here because in every single 1 of these settlement, because in every single 1 of these settlements, if we don't vote for it, we lose even more money. vote for it, we lose even more money as a city that we have to pay for as it relates to like, to pay for as it relates to like are we taking service funds or infrastructure. funds or infrastructure, funds from it to pay the settlement, it's not the case. settlement. It's not the case. It's why members voted for infrastructure bonds to pay for infrastructure. This is the job. We learned this. job. We learned this stuff every year. Uh, please Avail yourselves of the information. Thank you, chairman, uh, thank you, I wanted thank you. I wanted to also just uh, 1 other thank you. I wanted to also just uh 1 other source of funding is the city's line of credit. So I wanted to just lay that out there. lay that out there as well. So, we'll try to get a full account. so, we'll try to get a full accounting of uh, all of that information. Soon. Yes, Alderman Lopez. Thank you, chairman and In. In response to that. I think that goes back to what our colleague. colleague mentioned with regards to our lines of credit. colleague mentioned with regards to our lines of credit are not just credit cards. It's based on our ability to issue bonds to Do what we need to do. so, The. The question that Alder and viegas was. The question that Alder and viegas was asking was, are we borrowing? To. To pay these bond to pay this off. And I I thank you for your willingness to, you know. your willingness to, you know, share the details. But as the budget, the budget director herself has said 150 million dollars across all across various departments. across all across various departments and funds, including Finance General. Finance general, which means we are now entering into the phase where we're going to start borrowing to pay for settlements. We know that we have a 100 other Watts cases still coming down the pipeline and whatever else is here. So I think it's very prudent for us to ask those questions and even if we are getting reports quarterly, which I am well aware of because I helped save that at the very end of the budget cycle last year. the fact of the matter is, is that, that still shows that things that were committed to departments are being moved around to cover these decisions. Decisions that we have to pay for. and, And that is also bar a part of transparency. That's And that is also bar a part of transparency that's lacking in our budget conversations. Is that even though my colleagues are unaware that money colleagues are unaware that M money moves freely from any Administration after it's approved. That's exactly what we're going to see. we're going to see happen in this case. So, look forward to seeing whatever you're going to share with. seeing whatever you're going to share with us chairman but just want everyone to be aware that this will have just want everyone to be aware. That this will have real impacts unless we start being firmer with the admin. administration saying what we want. To be cut. To be cut, should be cut in what we don't should not because otherwise they will. otherwise they will make the unilateral decisions themselves once we expire on our lines of credit. Thank you. themselves once we expire on our lines of credit. Thank you. Thank you Alderman. Um, Motion made by Alderman Beal. Motion made by Alderman Beal to move, due pass, all those in favor. Signify by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and will report it out at the next city council meeting. Jessica, thank you very much. Thank you, chair. Item. Number 3 from the Department of Finance and Item number 3 from the Department of Finance and the department of Aviation a substitute Orden. department of Aviation a substitute ordinance authorizing the issuance of Chicago. the issuance of Chicago O'Hare, International Airport. Uh General airport, senior lean Revenue Bond. Airport. Uh General airport, senior lean revenue bonds and Chicago Midway International Airport. Senior lean revenue bonds uh there is bonds. Uh there is a substitute ordinance which was prepared and sent to everyone. prepared and sent to everyone electronically. Is there a motion to accept the substitute? motion to accept the substitute ordinance? Moved by alderman. Moved by Alderman, Hopkins. All those in favor. Signify by saying I I all those opposed in the opinion of the chairs, the eyes have it and the substitute is before us, We're joined today by. We're joined today by Brendan White. Deputy Commissioner from the Department of Finance, we also have on Deck, Frank ramalde, Deputy Commissioner of design and construction from the Department of Aviation. from the Department of Aviation, Bernie Williams assistant commissioner from inter. commissioner from intergovernmental Affairs, uh, from the Department of Ave, from the Department of Aviation and Zach, Bogman from the Department, Department of a Aviation. Also. Also, we have, uh, president representatives from the Also we have uh president representatives from the various Financial firms that are part of the deal. Financial firms that are part of the deal team stance, or any questions that you have. Brendan. Thank you chair. Um, we are working to get the We are working to get the presentation set up right now, but I believe that. Everybody has a copy of the presentation. Everybody has a copy of the presentation printed out as well. Okay, you have the presentation. well. Okay, you have the presentations. Each member has a presentation in front of them. We will continue to work to figure out what's going on with the glitch here. Glad I brought my, would you please? Glad I brought my, would you please proceed? Yes. So um, Yes. So um in the copy of I'll be going through the copy of the presentation that you all have. Um, so starting on page 1 discussing the So, starting on page 1 discussing the purpose of the ordinance. um, so, this would authorize so this would authorize, uh, bonds for both O'Hare and Midway um to Uh, provide funding for continued. Progress on signific. Uh, provide funding for continued progress, on significant and ongoing Capital Improvement projects at both airports. Um, and we also include a number of, um, refunding and tender candidates to, uh, reduce interest. tender candidates to, uh, reduce interest costs and realizing that savings. So, the, the savings we're looking at at the O at O'Hare Airport. at at the O at O'Hare Airport, are roughly 65 million and savings from a combined refunding and tender um, and for Midway, we're looking at about 8 million, um, and for Midway, we're looking at about 8 million in savings from refinancing um, 1 important thing I want to mention at the top is that uh, the airport obligations are not uh the airport obligations are not General obligation debt. Um, these bonds are paid entirely from the city's O'Hare. and Midway funds. And um, from General Airport, and Midway funds. And um from General airport revenues from each airport which includes Landing fees. each airport which includes Landing fees um rents and uh gate fees, various other sources of income. gate fees. Various other sources of income that are derived solely from the airport and are not permitted to leave. solely from the airport and are not permitted to leave the airport. Um, there are no property taxes. Um, there are no property, taxes, pledged to repayment and the credit ratings. the credit ratings of the, uh, airports are assigned based on significantly different criteria than the city's General. obligation bonds. So the ratings for our Airport obligation bonds. So the ratings for our airport revenue bonds are higher than the city's General. bonds are higher than the city's General credit ratings. so, So on page 2, there's a breakdown. Um, so on page 2, there's a breakdown um, of the uh, how So on page 2, there's a breakdown um, of the uh how we got to the headline numbers for the bonds. got to the headline numbers for the bonds, um, which I know maybe a little bit alarming, but maybe a little bit alarming but for ohare, the we're looking at a refinancing tender candidates. looking at a refinancing tender candidates of about 3.8 billion. Um, I also want to stress that we would only do, uh, the refinancing or the tender. If we saw that there were Savings in the current market. So, were Savings in the current market. So we're not saying we're going to issue the full 3.8 billion. we're going to issue the full 3.8 billion, but this is just gives us flexibility to if the savings are there and we're able to lower interest. able to lower interest rates on our existing debt structure. We would, um, consider refinancing about 3.8 billion. billion dollars of outstanding bonds. Um, we would also look to fund about 52. look to fund about 525 million of projects at O'Hare. O'Hare, um, with a maximum repayment term of 40 years. Um, for Midway the 445 million, uh, not take seed princip. amount is made up of 26. amount is made up of 265 million and refinancing candidates. And and 180 million dollars of new money project new money. and 180 million dollars of new money project, new money for capital projects that are ongoing at the airport. capital projects that are ongoing at the airport also with the maximum repayment term of 40. the maximum repayment term of 40 years. starting with the Starting with the O'Hare. um, section of the Um, section of the ordinance. um, on page 4, you can Um on page 4, you can see uh the hair credit ratings. um on page 4 you can see uh the hair credit ratings are the lowest rating is from Moody's at A2 with a stable Outlook. and we also, And we also have a plus ratings from each of. And we also have a plus ratings from each of S&P Fitch and crawl. All with stable outlooks, um, for reference, the city's General obligation. city's General obligation, ratings range from a minus to uh, triple Triple B minus. oh, and I think we have Oh, and I think we have the presentation. About to get. About to get set up on the big screen in a moment. Yeah. Thank you. These are the ratings. I was just discussing. and moving on to the, uh, And moving on to the uh, refinancing tender deal team. So we're looking at uh having this transaction led by JP Morgan um with the rest of the underwriting Syndicate uh filled out. filled out by uh 22% minority-owned. filled out by uh 22% minority-owned underwriting, firms and 5.5% Vetter. 5.5% veteran-owned firms. Um, we also have strong minority participation in the, uh, legal and financial advisory teams. and, And for the O'Hare, new money deal team. Uh, we would look to have Jeffries lead this transaction. to have Jeffries lead this transaction, uh, with 35% minority. minority-owned firms. Making up the rest of the underwriting syndicate. underwriting Syndicate. Um, as before we also have strong on, uh, minority participation on the legal and financial advisory teams And at this point, I would like to turn it over. and at this point, I would like to turn it over to Frank to get into detail about where exactly the new money project funds would go. funds would go to. Um, although I would before he gets into it, I'd like to mention that the project costs listed here. will is the total project. the total project cost. It's not limited to the amount that the bonds are going. the bonds are going to fund. So the if you add up all these project costs, it will add up to more than the $225. project costs, it will add up to more than the $225 million um that we're uh seeking uh authority to borrow. Frank. Good morning. Uh, a couple of projects. Uh, a couple of projects real quick. Uh, we're going to start with the central basin. start with the central Basin capacity. Relocation, this is a design. Build. a design build. Its elimination of the central Basin. Excuse me, excuse me. Frank, can you bring the mic closer to you? Got me now. There you go. Better. So it's elimination of the central detention BAS. central detention Basin and rerouting of a related store and Sewer. Uh, and Sewer uh to another Basin. Uh this is a great project. It took almost 9 months to set up the staging area and set up for the work. up for the work and what it was it was a mining machine. that started in the in the South Basin. that started in the in the South Basin to the central Basin. The mining machine was about 400 foot long and uh, uh, the diameter uh, to put the machine in was uh, the diameter, uh, to put the machine in was 144, uh, inches in diameter. And it traveled over 8,000 feet. inches in diameter and it traveled over, 8,000 feet, 60 feet deep and this is feet deep. And this is mining machine that is used all over the world and this was a great project, the project it will be completed in 2027 the machine has completed but there's a lot of other work that they have to do to get the machine out. out and the total cost was 224 million. Next project is a great separated. next project is a great separated roadway from Taxi akl to uh the new terminal. S1 Concourse. uh the new terminal. S1 Concourse construction, for a great separated structure to connect. separated structure to connect a taxiway K&L to Future satellite 1. These great great separated roads are very important. It uh, it eliminates the interaction between vehic, vehicles and airplanes. So in an airplane, vehicles and airplanes. So in an airplane is going over a taxi way to Great separate Road. taxi way to Great separate Road, the vehicles will go under uh this project will be completed in the fourth quarter 2027. 2027 at approximately 74.2 million Tax away. Alpha bravo. Lever relocation. Tax away. Alpha bravo. Lever relocation Phase 2. This is construction. The remaining portions of 2 aircraft Design Group. group 6. Of course, 6 is the largest aircraft 747800 and the A380 in the vicinity of decommissioning. The the A380 in the vicinity, of decommissioning, the central Basin. So once we, uh, complete the central Basin and get the water out of there, we're going to fill it and the water out of there, we're going to fill it. And these 2 taxiways amb will go over that. taxiways amb will go over that uh Basin for uh aircraft. the future tap program. This is a quart. the future tap program. This is a quarter 4 complete 2027. 60.7 million. Taxiway K&L, great separator Road. This is a project that's about 90% complete, uh, construction of a about 90% complete uh, construction of a 700 foot cast in place concrete structure to uh, support future, aircraft vehicle operations. vehicle operations, uh, for or 21 and tap vehicle operations, uh, for or 21, and tap this includes earthquake earthquake. earthquake earthquake, uh, Earth retention systems, retaining walls can, Retaining walls cast in place structure, waterproofing, backfill, and Grading. And backfill, and Grading and many site utilities. A lot of ducks are going. A lot of sight ducks for Comet for Electrical, uh, Electrical uh lights and everything are part of this. This is also important to keep aircraft away from Vehicles. So this is another great separation Road. Uh, this is another great separation Road. Uh it was complete, it will be completed a third quarter of 2025 complete, it will be completed. A third quarter of 2025 at 74, uh, 75.6 million Next project, Terminal 5. Next project, Terminal 5 landside improvements. The parking garage opened. garage opened it last year about 1400 spaces. Uh, also with a surface slot for about 500 St. Uh, spaces roadway improvements, uh, including widening of a lower level Island and uh, for our passenger safety for passenger pickup. pickup, that's very important curbside expansion Within the garage, includes a flyover of that is not. the garage, includes a flyover of that is not complete. Well, we'll be completed at the end of 2026. Well, we'll be completed at the end of 2026, the whole project will be completed at the end of 2026 with uh, for 222. 222 million. if you look at the, uh, the photos that you have their Central basin, Basin capacity, that shows the diameter 14, Basin capacity, that shows the diameter 144 uh inch sewer, that was going to go in and the Machine that goes in there, it traveled 8,000 ft. It traveled 8,000 feet and took about 11 months to complete underneath. underneath 2 2, Runway and 5, Taxi. underneath 2 2, Runway and 5 taxiways, first time ever done at an airport, anywhere in the world. done at an airport, anywhere in the world, taxway alpha bravo relocation, if you look to your bravo relocation. If you look to your right, you see the Basin? That's the Basin that uh uh, it will be eliminated. We will put dirt in the Basin and if you look uh, where that airplane, that's going to be gone but those taxiways will go over. will go over the base. And once we fill it, that will give us more taxi room more whole pads. For aircraft 1 Day land. Next project combined Terminal, 1 and see. Next project. Combined Terminal 1 and see a lot C pump repairs uh repairs and upgrades. repairs uh repairs and upgrades to pumps and pump systems associated with. associated with lift and water stations to pump storm water and waste. and waste water. Um, we always have to upgrade on the facilities that we have. If they're not new, we have to continue to work. And this is a project where we need to do this. This project with completion date of a second, quarter of 20. of 2026, at about a 8. 2 The ring tunnel exhaust system. Uh. The ring tunnel exhaust system. Uh em hazardous gas and smoke evacuation. smoke evacuation if in front of the terminals in the lower portion. lower portion of the terminals, there's a tunnel that goes, uh, uh in front of Terminal 1, 2 and 3 and we're upgrading that tunnel for the exhaust system, uh, and the rig tunnel for the exhaust system uh and the rig utility tunnel upgrading and adding exhaust. tunnel upgrading and adding exhaust fans, providing new dampers. And and controls. And also a very important, uh, new dampers and controls. And also a very important uh new fire alarm system, a quarter 2 completion, alarm system, a quarter 2 completion 2027 21.9 million 1. Concourse. 1, Concourse happy to report. We will start construction July 1st. July 1st on that. Concourse, uh, everybody's anxious. July 1st, on that. Concourse, uh, everybody's anxiously waiting for that new Concourse providing 19 new gates, design flexibility accommodating different. design flexibility. Accommodating different sizes of aircraft to serve International. aircraft to serve International and domestic operations. Uh, four. uh, fourth quarter, 2028 730. Uh, fourth quarter, 2028 730, million, To build these new terminals. To build these new terminals, all these tax taxiways, we have to do a UT. have to do a utilities. So tap 1 Phase 1 allowance. have to do a utilities. So tap 1 Phase 1, allowance provide a supply capacity and utility that. a supply capacity and utility that maintain tap phasing uh Phase 1. Phase 1 facilities. This will be everything needed to operate uh that terminal. operate. Uh that terminal complete. It is complete in various phases and is the terminal uh continues. We will complete uh the utilities around it. That's 493. complete uh the utilities around it. That's 493 million Terminal 3 improvements. Terminal 3 improvements renovation, we call Elevate, uh, alev. Elevate 3, uh, renovation, uh, an expansion of Elevate 3. Uh renovation. An expansion of terminal 3 head house including upgrades to existing. head house including upgrades to existing MEP systems relocated Relocated bag, claim area with new claim the devices. The bag, claim area with new claim the devices, the technology and claim system is improving every day. And and claim system is improving every day and every day, there's new, uh, there's new technology. And there's new, uh, there's new technology and we have to go with the times. And, uh, with the times and uh, redo upgrade those systems our renovation. renovation of the back room, claim area to new baggage, make room Make room make up rooms renovated. Restrooms security checkpoints. checkpoints, Renovations and reconfigurations building. expansion and new spaces for concessions. Uh new. expansion and new spaces for concessions. Uh new Airline Club, new home rooms, and Club, new home rooms and uh a brand new renovated Tick Ticket Lobby. Ticket Lobby uh completed third quarter of 2027. Ticket Lobby uh completed third quarter of 2027 353 million. if you look at the photos set of line 1, If you look at the photos set of line 1, uh Concourse going to be a beautiful. We've been working. to be a beautiful. We've been working with our Airline Partners so they could operate properly. Partners so they could operate properly out of this facility and it's just going to be a beautiful facility when completed Elevate. elevate a T3, of course, this is American Airlines and Elevate a T3, of course, this is American Airlines. And just a reminder we had bill money for about a reminder, we had bill money for about 90 million dollars that we received for this Construction. dollars that we received for this construction. Uh, and it's if you could see, it's not only inside but we're doing work on the ramp. ramp areas and it's going to be very uh, ramp areas and it's going to be very uh uh nice facility. Once it's completed. Terminal 5 landside improvements. Terminal 5 landside improvements parking garage. Uh, this opened last year. opened last year, uh, a 1400 spaces. Uh, we are doing the flyovers, so it's easier to bring pass. flyovers, so it's easier to bring passengers in their, uh, in the front of that, uh, parking. in the front of that, uh, parking lot between right before, Terminal 5. And Terminal 5, and they'll have easy access into Terminal 5. and then here, just going from And then here just going from right to left. Uh, the pink is, uh, where the parking structure is? As you go west, you see. see the yellow. Uh, that is the, uh, term. see the yellow. Uh, that is the, uh, Terminal 3 for American Airlines continuing to the West is in the pink Terminal. 1, Concourse, as Terminal, 1, Concourse, as I stated it starts July July 1st, As you keep on going west, you'll see the Basin that is going to be. going to be eliminated. Uh, and that going to be eliminated, uh, and that alpha bravo taxi way uh, going over. Once we fill it all. The purple is all the utilities and Service Roads that we will be putting in uh and the great separated roads. Great. Thank you. Frank. Great. Thank you, Frank. Um, now, before now before you go back Frank, I want to just say you know that airport like the back of your hand. I, I think so a little bit. Thank you. Sorry. Moving on. moving on to the, Uh, yes, Alderman, Hopkins. Oh yeah, I just 1 question on the presentation. When it comes to the material, uh, that will be used to fill the reservoir for the uh, alpha bravo project. reservoir for the, uh, alpha bravo project, uh, have has a decision been made about the source of that material because it seems like it's going to be a significant amount to fill that large. Can we hold that until he finishes the presentation? I just, presentation? I just took the Chairman's prerogative to, uh, presentation? I just took the Chairman's prerogative to uh, compliment Mr. Grimaldi, but we have compliment Mr. Grimaldi but we have uh, a few more pages tovil and we'll take your question first. So, moving on to uh, Midway Airport. Um, Midway also has So moving on to uh Midway Airport. Um Midway also has um ratings that are higher than the city's General. ratings that are higher than the city's General obligation rating. Um, They have. They have a equivalent with a stable Outlook from All 4 rating agencies. Um this is 1 Notch below, where rating agencies. Um this is 1 Notch below where O'Hare is uh generally rated Primm uh generally rated primarily because um O'Hare is bigger uh, generally rated primarily because um O'Hare is bigger uh, and has more Diversified and has more Diversified uh carrier base their um United. and has more Diversified uh, carrier base their um United and uh American their sort of like the strong. and uh American their sort of like the strong dual Hub. Whereas About 90% of all the traffic at. About 90% of all the traffic at Midway is, um, Southwest. So rad agencies like to see, um, uh, rad agencies, like to see, um, uh, carrier diversity at the airport. So that's why they rated, uh, O'Hare 1, Notch higher than Midway. Moving on to the deal team. Um, Moving on to the deal team. Um for both the refinancing and the new money uh we would have 1 deal team led by uh, the new money uh we would have 1 deal team led by uh Bank of America with the rest of the underwriting Syndicate filled out by 35% Syndicate, filled out by 35% minority owned firms. Um, we have, uh, also strong minority participation in the legal and advisory teams. and now, um, Frank. Frank will be able to show that he knows 2 airports, like the back of his hand. Thank you. Thank you, Brandon. first project is, First project is the fuel Farm upgrades. Uh, this is an upgraded upgrade of a garage facility that is needed. Uh, upgrade of a garage facility that is needed, uh, for us to operate the fuel Farm, uh, to fill aircraft, of course, a fuel us this fuel us. This is in the south east, uh, quadrant of of fuel us. This is in the south east uh quadrant of of the parcel uh project will be complete in 202. parcel. Uh, project will be complete in 2026 at a, at a project cost of 5.5 million. Midway CIP implementation. 2024, uh, con Consultants are required, 2024, uh, con Consultants are required for the implementation of the Midway Capital uh, CIP program. implementation of the Midway Capital, uh, CIP program, Services include a program, a construction management. Services include a program, a construction management financial and technical support, and allocation of Aviation staff costs support. staff costs supporting the capital program. this was completed in 2024 and the cost was, uh, This was completed in 2024 and the cost was uh, 5 million. Midway International. Midway International Terminal, restroom renovation project, as you know, as you know those restrooms are used a lot and we have every once in a while we have to upgrade them of course. every once in a while we have to upgrade them, of course, renovation renovation and redesign of 49, designated public, restrooms and other public. public, restrooms and other public use areas encompassing uh, approximately approximately 7,000 17,000 square feet. Uh completed. approximately 7,000, 17,000 square feet. Uh, completed a second quarter 2029 at a second quarter, 2029 at 31 million, Uh, the North Sea Matrix recap. Uh, the North Sea M Matrix wreck capitalization optimization. Uh, this is replaced inbound. Baggage handling systems and oversized bag baggage handling systems. Uh uh logic controllers as I stated earlier. uh logic controllers as I stated earlier the technology is growing and growing quickly. So we growing and growing quickly so we have to keep with the time. So every once in a while we do, time. So every once in a while we do upgrade these systems uh project complete. uh project complete uh in date is a third quarter 2026. uh project complete uh in date is a third quarter 2026 at 1.8 million. Loading Bridges. We need them to walk into the airplanes, of course, passenger loading. of course, passenger loading Bridge, refresh or renovation of 43 pass. renovation of 43 passenger, uh, boarding Bridges. Uh, of 43 passenger, uh, boarding Bridges. Uh, completed in the third quarter 2026 at 3.6 million dollars. If you look at the pictures on the left, is the Matrix. If you look at the pictures on the left is the Matrix, uh, and the recapitalization opposition. and the recapitalization opposition for the baggage systems, a fuel Farm up. systems, a fuel Farm upgrades to, we're putting another building so they could operate. building so they could operate uh, more efficient uh in the facility. they could operate uh more efficient uh in the facility. Uh the Midway uh terminal, restroom renovation project, the Midway, uh, terminal restroom, renovation project as you see and the passenger loading Bridges. project as you see and the passenger loading Bridges, which we need to refresh. as we go on the air side, uh pavement replacement program, this is a multi-year uh pavement replacement a program for original concrete as you know airplanes are very heavy and when you park an airplane on a static concrete, it's a lot different than just landing on. different than just landing on a Runway. Uh, those planes are very heavy heavy, so, are very heavy heavy. So, uh, we need to replace that pavement. Uh, often, uh, we we are are doing it. pavement. Uh, often. Uh, we, we are are doing it and we can't do it all at 1 time because we can't lose all. can't do it all at 1 time because we can't lose all the gates at 1 time. So we do a couple 3 or gates at 1 time. So, we do a couple 3 or 4 or 5 every year. Uh, completion date to Uh completion date to all get these done is third quarter uh 2031 uh project cost 800 million. Engineer materials are resting systems. Engineer materials are resting systems EMASS. Quick explanation behind. Quick explanation behind everyone. Wait, Runway, you have to have a thousand feet, have a thousand feet per FAA, regulation, 1 139, have a thousand feet per FAA. Regulation, 1 139 at Midway, we do not have a 1000, ft saf. we do not have a 1000 ft safety area. So we have to place these EMAs pads and what this is is when an aircraft if these EMAs pads and what this is, is when an aircraft, if an aircraft would overrun the runway instead, an aircraft would overrun the runway instead of going straight, it would just sink into the concrete and straight, it would just sink into the concrete. And it's very safe, especially at airports like Midway where you don't have the Thousand, uh, foot safety area. We put these in place about 78 years ago and we have to continue to repair them and the FAA comes out and we check them every few years to make sure that they're still in. few years to make sure that they're still in regulation. So the repairs and restoration of these 3 Me 3, EMS beds are located at the end. located at the ends of Runway 22 left. Runway 13 Center and Center and Runway. 31 Center. Completion date is Center and Runway. 31 Center, completion date is third quarter 2025 with a cost of 2025 with a cost of 88 million. The Midway Central. The Midway Central Terminal plan. This is an area that will relieve concess concess, uh congestion I should say around. around terminal ramps, during peak hours and weather events. If we have snow snow, if we have swaps, which we If we have snow snow, if we have swaps which we call severe weather, uh, airport program. weather, uh, airport program and any overflow we need need someplace to put these airplanes. Uh, this will be completed in the second quarter of 2028. completed in the second quarter of 2028, 128 million. Runway repairs and Runway and approaches 13 Center. Runway repairs and Runway and approaches 13 Center 31 Center. This is ongoing as we speak. Just started uh, last week Milan overlay of Runway, 13 Center and taxiways and runways, uh, geometric, uh, changes to Runway 13 Center Pat. Taxiway p and Taxi. Pat, taxiway p and taxiway whiskey to align with FAA guidelines. And the 139 139 is and the 139 139 is very important. It's just it's a certificate that we get from the airport from the fa8 to operate both airports. Uh this will be completed in the first quarter. first quarter of 2026 at 6, 1. 5. in a few years, we're In a few years, we're going to be doing the same work, we're doing on Runway 13. We're doing on Runway 13 Center for Runway. 4 write 22 left. It's a mill. left. It's a Mill and overlay of that Runway intersecting Taxi. taxiways and we're going to change some of the taxiways. And we're going to change some of the taxiways around it per the FAA guidelines. around it per the FAA guidelines uh, to eliminate uh pavement, which is, is dearly needed uh project completion date. completion date. Uh fourth quarter 2029 at 46. completion date. Uh, fourth quarter 2029 at 46 million. as you see on the As you see on the map, uh, 4, write, 222 love, free have. That's going to happen in a few years. If you look below that. that, that's what we're doing, uh, started last week. that, that's what we're doing. Uh, started last week in the purple. Uh, the EMASS that we call. If you see where the, uh, yellow arrows, are there, that's the bed. So, for the airplane, would slide off that he wouldn't go beyond that. He would just sink into the pavement. Okay, it's called a collapsed concrete. And and we have to test it every make uh every year to make sure that it is in. in uh, per uh, 139 the in uh per uh 139, the Midway, Central Terminal plan, that will help. will help, uh, especially during bad weather. We're also going to use it for secondary, the icing for aircraft. and, and the air site pavement replacement program, where you see some of the areas are working on this year but eventually in the Years coming, we will do the rest of the pavement. Here, you see a map of Midway? Uh, the orange in the middle is the repair that we are doing as we speak. doing. As we speak on 13 Center, 31 Center, the pink, as we speak on 13 Center, 31 Center, the pink is what we're going to do in a couple of years and to the right is the terminal area ramp that you see? terminal area ramp that you see uh that we will be doing some replacement. some replacement on Thank you. Thank you Frank, thank you. Thank you. So um, just a few points uh, to making conclusion. Um, points uh to making conclusion. Um just want to reiterate that the the only source of repayment for these bonds are airport, revenues generated at airport revenues generated at O'Hare and Midway respectively. Um, these bonds are not secured from tax revenues or other revenues in the city's general fund. Um, the use of these proceeds would be used exclusively for capital projects at O'Hare and Midway or in the case of the refinancing tender um to generate savings. If the market conditions uh hold up to where we see them now. Um, these bonds are not being issued for operating expenses. Or liquidity needs. Um, and the tax status. Um and the tax status of these bonds uh both the O'Hare and Midway bonds. Midway bonds are expected to be exempt from federal income tax and income tax and with that, I would conclude my presentation. Thank you Brendan. I'd like to start. Thank you Brendan. I'd like to start off the questions with the alderman. Oh, the alderman, OSHA or chairman, OSHA, chairman of Aviation and then and Then followed by Alderman, Hopkins and Alderman Beale. Thank you, chairman. Um, I Frank ramalde could stand in the hallway for the next 2 hours. And give more details of what he just gave. Um, this obviously is very extensive work. This is work that needs to be done. This is a needs to be done. This is a continuation of progress. of all the Of all the ongoing Capital Improvements. Um, I I just want to make a short statement about All of. all of this. Is extremely important work. That we continue both international airports. That we continue both international airports O'Hare and Midway competitive. To re. To reinvest to modernize. I don't need to tell all of you, how I don't need to tell all of you. How many airports across the Midwest would? the Midwest would love to start to take some of what we have at our 2, international airports and we need to continue to reinvest uh none of this Financing. We're talking about. Uh, affects anything. uh, affects anything but the airport um, this is this is about reducing interest costs. And this is significant. And this is significant savings. Myself. myself, Vice chair, Curtis, and everybody here from CDA, will be available, uh, all morning. Even after the meeting is done, but, um, this is critically important. is done, but, um, this is critically important work. That we need to keep. That we need to keep modernizing. We need to keep moving forward to stay competitive. Thanks chairman, thank you. And speaking of Vice chair Curtis, I want to acknowledge Him. Him Alderman Hall, and you all Him, Alderman, Hall, and you Alderman, AE, uh, and count you towards quorum. you towards Quorum along with, uh, Alderman, clay and Chico. Who who are here. But are not members and are here, but are non-members. And with that, we'll move on to Alderman Hopkins. Yeah, thank you. Madam chair. Yeah, thank you, madam chair. Um, you heard my question, uh, in the past we've gotten uh, in the past, we've gotten somewhat creative, uh, with moving large amounts of material. moving large amounts of material around at O'Hare. In fact, we created 3 acres of Parkland. we created 3 acres of Parkland, uh, just outside of my ward on Fullerton, Avenue by on Fullerton Avenue by, uh, using clean material when the runways were, uh, reconfigured. So, are there any thoughts? Uh, uh along those lines to take advantage of this rare moment? where there's such a large hole? basically, that needs to be filled, uh, and we have some other material that could potentially be the source of that. Fill. Are we looking at that now? that. Fill, are we looking at that now? So the material that we're going to be using is the material that we have already on the Airfield. So it's material. already on the Airfield. So it's material that we use from other projects and we've been collecting for the last 10-15 years. So I don't see. years. So I don't see any material coming from the outside to fill. to fill anything that we're doing. And after we're done, we might have some available but we'll have to look at it to see if it's usable. Uh so of course there's pfas we have to look to look at and and so we have to test it and we have tested it but we're going to use all the material we can to but we're going to use all the material. We can to fill the basins and do some of the other work once we get the basins and do some of the other work once we get closer to the end. We'll, we'll see how much we have available. to the end. We'll, we'll see how much we have available and if it's usable outside of the airport, all right? And know, some of that material currently stored. Is that the result of the excavation from the diversion tun? of the excavation from the diversion tunnel? With that boring? There is some of, yes, boring? There is some of yes, but it's some, it's some material that we've had in the past. material that we've had in the past that we've done and if you drive down York Road, You'll see a lot of. you'll see a lot of the Mounds that that are there but it we we saved a lot of money in, keeping it on the Airfield, and we saved a lot of money in, keeping it on the Airfield. And that's, that's very important instead of incurring. that's, that's very important. Instead of incurring costs for Trucking and what are some of the contaminants that have been identified in The Limited testing that you've done mostly it's Pas. Uh, there is oils. done? Mostly it's Pas. Uh, there is oils of course from from uh, from Fuel and de uh from Fuel and deicer and things like that. But the concern we have now is be fast. It's not a lot but we continue to test it and see and see where it's at. All right, thank you that concludes my question. right, thank you that concludes my questions. Madam chair. Thank you Alderman, Alderman Beal. Thank you. Madam chairman. Just got a couple of quick questions. Um, This Total Bond is, how much? For O'Hare or Midway. For O'Hare or Midway? Oh, both combined. Uh, both combined. is uh, 4.7 billion, okay? And how much are you asking for? authorization today? Is that the full amount? Yes, okay. And Yes. Okay. And out of the 4, plus bill. Yes, okay. And out of the 4 plus billion. Uh are all the funds. funds allocated to Project. Projects, or are you looking for sort of a buffer? um, you know, as far as the Um, you know, as far as the bond is concerned. Yeah. So all of the, uh, new money project funds are fully allocated to the project. the projects that are lists that we just went through, okay? So, okay? So you, you're presenting to us a full amount of the bond authorization, for the project. Yep. Okay now help me understand. based on the testimony that we just took Based on the testimony that we just took. There's a lot of these projects that are already ongoing and about to be completed. Correct? uh, yes, some of them are ongoing just need additional funding to continue when we say additional funding are we over budget? um, I'd have to. We are not over. Budgeted according to, no, not at all. We are not over, budgeted according to no, not at all. Okay, so how we authorize authorizing so how we authorize authorizing bond funds today for a project? That's project that's going to be complete in a couple of weeks? uh, I mean there are Uh, I mean there there are multiple sources of funding. So there's um, I think maybe, uh, Zach can speak a little bit more to it, but there's there is both paygo funding. Uh, that's being used. And there's also are we looking to that's being used. And there's also, are we looking to use Bond money to pay back? Bonds that have already been spent. Bonds that have already been spent in in some cases. Yes, we do have some, um, short-term lines of credit that have been drawn to cover. drawn to cover some of these projects. Um, and so, a portion of the the new money would So, a portion of the, the new money would also potentially take out some of those short-term lines of credit. We, um, have been trying to, trying to avoid a case where we Trying to avoid a case where we sort of uh get out over our skis. our skis and borrow money. That we know is not going to be spent for another 2 years. So, we're trying to make it so that because if we, that because if we borrow money for projects that we know is not going to um, go forward until next year or the year after. after we're paying interest on that money. Um while it's just sitting around uh waiting to be used so what? just sitting around uh waiting to be used. So what we've been doing is trying to use other sources of funding and our short-term lines of credit to try to line up the issuance. So that we're not paying interest on sort of, uh, dead time for the projects while. They're my question is, how do you start construction? how do you start construction without having a funding source? It. I Brandon, I can jump in. This is It. I Brandon I can jump in. This is Zach boffman. I'm a managing Deputy Commissioner at the department of Aviation. managing Deputy Commissioner at the department of Aviation so as Brenda Sorry, excuse me. As Brenda noted, we do have funding sources for these projects. It's the line of lines of credit. for these projects. It's the line of lines of credit that have been authorized by city council. We draw down on those lines. lines from time to time to finance the projects. lines from time to time to finance the projects and then once we have reached our capacity, once we have reached our capacity in the lines of credit, we Bond those out with um Bond proceeds. I would also note just for clarification that for the O'Hare. Bonds, we're seeking authorization of O'Hare. Bonds, we're seeking authorization of 4. Excuse me, on the mic, we're seeking authorization of seeking authorization of 4.3 billion dollars for the bonds. The new money portion of that is only about half a billion dollars, the remainder of that. dollars. The remainder of that would be to refinance existing. existing debt or Tender, um, funds for existing debt. So the portion that we're actually looking to to finance the projects is just about, um, projects is just about um, 500 million dollars, okay? So we right now, today we do not have enough money to complete. complete work, that has already been started. Without this Bond. Uh, we we do have in order to get the money out the door. We have been drawing on our short-term line of credit, but we We have been drawing on our short-term line of credit, but we You all started a project without. you all started a project without having funds in place without using the line of credit. uh, maybe Zach can Uh maybe Zach can talk about what's necessary to get a project going. Yeah, so so each of the projects that we're constructing at the airport have been. We have authorization from our Airline carriers to use a rates and charges to finance those projects. So we could assess the entire amount of the projects through just collecting rates and charges on. collecting rates and charges on an ongoing basis. That would be our, you know, be our, you know, primary funding source. Our Airline carriers prefer that we don't you know, Laden all the debt. carriers prefer that we don't, you know, Laden all the debt on a single year. And instead we on a single year and instead we capitalize the cost of that project so that's why we're here. that project. So that's why we're here seeking Bond authorization to pay for it over. authorization to pay for it over, you know, a 30 to 40 year period of time rather than collect the entire amount that we're authorized to in just this calendar year, okay? Let me ask you another. me ask you another question. How would you pay for this if this Bond didn't pass today? Then we would be required to assess. Then we would be required to assess that through airline rates and charges. Okay. Okay, all right. Well, let me just say I would I would recommend that you all do not start. recommend that you all do not start construction without having finances. having finances in place, uh, without using lines of having finances in place uh without using lines of credit and things like that. I mean, you can come to this body. and things like that. I mean you can come to this body and say if it's going to cost the 4 billion. say if it's going to cost the 4 billion um you know you can Bond but you don't have to bond. Bond but you don't have to bond at all at 1 time. but, but for you all, But, but for you all to start construction and almost almost be done. almost be done with certain parts of this project and saying that. saying that, now, you need Bond money to pay. The. The line of credit back of or to pay for this part, you know? know, you all are putting the cart before the horse. Don't. Don't take this body for granted that we just going to rubber stamp. rubber stamp a bond that you all bring towards just because you say you need it. you say you need it, you know, and you're using the line of credit. credit however you all see fit to use the line of credit. That's that's not right. So I will recommend you all try to do things. so I will recommend you all try to do things a little differently over there because if this Bond didn't pass you, will be up the creek without a paddle or a boat. Thank you madam. madam president. Vice chair Conway. by 27 and the By 27 and the appendix. so, so I'm just asking about the source of the refinancing it Looks like you could see at least. Looks like you could see at least 3 of them are from 2016. When Interest rates were a lot lot lower than they are today. Um, so, so I I recognize that we can now issue shorter Dior So, I I recognize that we can now issue shorter duration, debt, which will have a slight lower interest rate, but it doesn't seem like that. doesn't seem like that would make up for, rates being 250 basis points higher today. Give or take from 2016 So, what? So what am I, what am I missing on that? um, so the the So the these are just the candidates that we would look to refinance. Um, if you go to the next slide in the Uh deck. Uh, deck. We have a detail of sort of, in the current market. These are the actual savings where market. These are the actual savings. Where look at that. We would actually realize from these refund actually realize from these refinancing targets. So, so why would we have? So so why would we have savings from 2016 bonds? So, so why would we have savings from 2016 bonds? I mean I can't imagine there's interest savings. can't imagine there's interest savings from them. Uh yeah, the can't imagine there's interest savings from them. Uh, yeah. That there there is. Um, and we we uh, we're basically And we we uh we're basically moving down the, the yield curve. So Bonds that were issued in, uh, 2016. Bonds, that were issued in, uh, 2016 with the 30-year. That's now 20-year Bond. that's now 20-year Bond. Um, and, uh, you know, if we were to get to Market and the savings evaporated, we just simply would not do the, the refinancing great. Uh, Great, uh, hard to believe thinking that the 10-year treasury in 2016. treasury in 2016 was 1 and a half to 2% and today, it's like, like 4 and a half. So hard to imagine their savings ref. refinancing at 2016 Bond but if there is, that's great, I guess, but that, that's my only. guess. But that, that's my only, I'm so I'm a skeptic but I hope you're right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, skeptic. Always a skeptic. Um, Alderman. Vagus Thank you. Madam chair, given the Thank you, madam chair. Given the changes that O'Hare. I was too glad to see Frank in the room because he does know those airports. Backwards. And Backwards and forwards. Um, 1 of my colleagues mentioned about the time frame for this for this uh, project. about the time frame for this for this uh project to be completed. Its been reported, it's been delayed. So you mentioned that it's not delayed, that's great, has the gone up. Um, are we still on still on? Um, Course, for the same dollar amount. yes, we're if you're referring to tap, we are on budget for tap the tap, the our Airline use and lease agreement allows the budget. budgets for tap to escalate. budgets for tap to escalate in accordance with the consumer cost index. So the total project cost if escalation, you know if that know, if that increases our budgets increase, but we are currently within that escalated budget, perfect. And then has our have tariffs had any type of impact. then has our have tariffs had any type of impact. Our are you guys monitoring that? We we are tracking you guys monitoring that? We, we are tracking that. Um, we don't see very much exposure to the foreign markets and the materials that were perch materials that were purchasing. I think our biggest area of potential exposure. potential, exposure is in the bag, handling system, a lot of those parts those parts are, um, Canadian made but we are monitor, that and factoring that into our budgets. I mean, our 51st state, according to the, uh, No, this is this is a great project. Uh, and No, this is this is a great project, uh, and I encourage all my colleagues to support this. This is the engine, uh, for the region and happy to support this. Thank you, thank you. you, alderman, laspada. Thank you so much. Uh, 2 quick questions. Number 1. Franc, I found this fascinating. I think it was really Well, presented, comprehensively presented. I was just curious. I don't know what the Safeway is to do this but you ever do and I'm sorry to be asking the 6 years in but you ever do? And I'm sorry to be asking the 6 years in but like do you ever do you like automatic visits? like do you ever do you like automatic visits to Midway and O'Hare so that we can get a sense on the ground? O'Hare so that we can get a sense on the ground of what what this work looks and feels like. what this work looks and feels like we have we've have them in the past uh I think them in the past. Uh I think I've been part of most of them and I think we're having 1 I think we're having 1 in the future right? Bernie yes. Hi Bernie. Hi Bernie Williams assistant commissioner and we are I'm glad you I'm glad you said that. Alderaan, that is on my to-do list. So we are planning 1 for Late. July August. So stay So we are planning 1 for Late. July August, so stay tuned for that. please try to make it August because Please try to make it August because I'm going to be out of town Late July. town Late July sounds great. And it will also include a tour of both airports as well. That sounds phenomenal. Thank you so much. You're welcome. I just had 1 more like more General. Finance question. for the first time in, for the first time in a while, I feel like you said, expected to be federal tax free and expected to be federal tax free, and I feel like that's related to current political condition. current political conditions in DC. Um, do you have a sense of when we're going to have some kind of confirmation about what taxation on these bonds? of confirmation about what taxation on these bonds looks like, and Worst case scenar. Worst case scenario. What? How does that impact us? financially. If, if DC financially? If if DC does choose to apply? Federal tax. Federal taxation to municipal bonds. Yeah, that's a good. Yeah, that's a good question. So I think, uh, for now we're we're safe. I think the current version of the, um, Congressional budget Bill does not include. budget Bill does not include um any limit or elimination of of tax exemption for municipalities. Um, it's a little bit difficult to say, exactly it's a little bit difficult to say exactly, um, how much it would cost. Uh, we have, we we have we have done some analysis, uh, related to related to, um, Alderman vasas, uh, res. related to, um, Alderman vasas, uh, resolution calling to preserve tax exemption. Um, there are a number of different, um, proposals that were floated around, um, 1. would, uh, Of cap, the amount of taxes and bonds that given municipality could issue. So, municipality could issue. So say every municipality or every municipal, every Municipal issuer, could do up to 500 million dollar tax exempt and tax exempt, and everything else would be, uh, taxable regardless. regardless of the size of the municipality, uh, that was 1 of the proposals floating around. Um, and yet the city would be, uh, have an outsized. would be, uh, have an outsized impact on the city as well as, you know, state of New York State. as you know, state of New York State of California, New York City, other large issuers would York City other large issuers would um Uh, have to figure out. Uh, have to figure out how to work around that or how to we would have to figure out. would have to figure out, like, how are we going to manage that? Do we want to? that? Do we want to save all of our tax exemption for refunding on the general obligation side? Do we want to save it for sort of these big Capital programs? Um, so we'd have to do the math on that to figure that out. But for now it looks like now it looks like, um, that is off the table in the current version of the bill. So we have, at least, I think another year before, um, new proposals come up. Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you, chair. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you chair. Thank you. Um Zach I just had 1 question, do you? Um Zach I just had 1 question. Do you brief the various Airlines about These Bond transactions. These Bond transactions before you. Come here, yes. you. And how often do you meet with them? Oh, is it is it a committee or we talked to the Oh, is it, is it a committee or we talked to the airlines on almost a daily basis, but we have a, a on almost a daily basis. But we have a, a monthly meeting called the executive working group that briefs out issues like this. And we have a separate. like this. And we have a separate monthly meeting, uh aaac. aaac, which I'm sorry, I don't know what the acronym stands for. off the top of my head, but where we also briefed out these topics dark carriers. Thank you. Um, I'll take a motion from Alderman, V. I'll take a motion from Alderman Villegas. Recommending do pass on this item. All pass on this item all those in favor. Signify by saying, I Opposed and the opinion of the chair. The eyes have it, and the due pass of recommendation were reported out at the next city council meeting. moving on to, Moving on to item number 4 on the Department of Finance agenda. Agenda is the substitute ordinance, amending municipal. agenda is the substitute ordinance. Amending Municipal Code chapter, 2-32 d. chapter, 2-32, D, 085 concerning, voluntary char. chapter, 2-32 D, 085 concerning, voluntary charitable, payroll deductions. There is a. There is a substitute ordinance which has been prepared and sent out. sent out electronically to everyone. Is there a motion to accept this substitute ordinance? So moved by Alderman laspada, all those in favor. Signify by saying I I in the opinion, opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the substitute ordinance is now before the committee and will be explained. by Michael penis. by Michael penis penis. from the Department of, From the Department of Finance, Michael. we're, we're We're also joined by uh, chip Hastings. Deputy director. We're also joined by, uh, chip Hastings. Deputy director of the Department of Finance. good afternoon, uh, madam chairwoman Good afternoon, uh, Madam chairwoman members of the committee. My name is Michael pennis snack from the chief. financial officer's office, uh, and I'm here today, financial officer's office. Uh, and I'm here today, uh, to present a substitute ordinance, revising. The present a substitute ordinance. Revising, the voluntary charitable payroll deduction program. as a brief primer, uh, As a brief primer. Uh, the program was created in 2008. as a brief primer, uh, the program was created in 2007, the program allows city employees to contribute the program allows city employees to contribute a portion of their post tax income. of their post tax income, to up to 10 Charities, that are listed in the ordinance. This is not a matching program. Uh, so Charities, don't receive any additional funds, um, through this. Uh, an importantly to the revision. uh, an importantly to the revision at present, uh, the ordinance, uh, states, that up to 50 chars, uh can participate. Uh, the application process. uh, the application process, uh, laid out in this ordinance, uh, Interested Charities will fill out a CFO created applic. application, they certify their tax exempt status. application, they certify their tax exempt, status certify that they operate in a area eligible. Uh, that is listed in the ordinance. Um, they certify that they will. will pay program costs. and, And uh, then We would. we would bring them, uh, to uh, this body and We would bring them, uh, to, uh, this body and the city council for, uh, consideration. Uh, today I'm here with the substitute. uh, today I'm here with the substitute ordinance that, uh, adds, uh, Adds, uh, such an organization. The St Jude. Uh, police. League, uh, was organized in 19. League, uh, was organized in 1932 and they cover expenses. incurred by the chaplain's ministry for providing wake services. services for departed members uh both. services for departed members, uh both active, and retired and their families. In addition to providing, uh, Referral Services, uh, Services uh for counseling. Um, this also changes language in the Orden. in the ordinance uh to make it clear that we are not. Um NEC necessarily obligated to remove Charities that do not have 250 contributors. um, it also removes 2 organizations that have dissolved those are kids in danger and earthshare Illinois. um, it adds language clarifying that uh scholarship um it adds language clarifying that uh scholarship funds for higher education are eligible, uh, for higher education are eligible. Uh for consideration at present the Hispanic. present, the Hispanic scholarship fund and uncf are to participating Charities um this participating Charities. Um this substitute ordinance would also uh limit the maximum number of Charities to 30. This is not meant to be exclusionary, but is not meant to be exclusionary but rather that the city-wide payroll division has informed us that the current software uh, software, uh, only would allow them to uh, send such deductions to up to 30 organizations. Um, and we would also, uh, be uh, providing this committee. Be, uh, providing this committee with an annual report, uh, moving forward. If the substitute ordinance passes. I uh, thank the committee, uh, for this time and respectfully, uh request. Uh, uh request uh passage. Thank you, madam chair. Uh thank you. chair. Uh, thank you. And also you have your you. And also you have your current Charities, the list of current Charities on their list of current Charities on there, okay? Yeah, those people can see the current charities. people can see the current Charities that are currently recipients. recipients of uh, support from recipients of, uh, support from the employees of the city. And then the next 1 is the service areas that these charities Charities, um, can cover Uh, alderman. Spazer. Madam chair. Uh, just a quick question. I think you're wrong. I think we've been doing this. Uh, I've, I've been working for the city since 93 and I've been contrib. contributing, so not that it's a factor at all, but contributing, so not that it's a factor at all. But, uh, just wondering 1 Thing. How does how does an organiz? just wondering 1 Thing. How does how does an organization come about if they want to get out of here? Like, come about if they want to get out of here like St? Joe's. Now, they're on. How did they come about to get a meeting? How, how does that work? I'm just curious. How if somebody else want to be? else want to be part of this? So, uh, the, uh, else want to be part of this? So, uh, the uh, yes, you are correct that there was a version of this program. correct that there was a version of this program that existed before the current program was established. Um, as far as how the uh the St Jude uh, police League. They uh, just proactively uh, reached out to us and asked. just proactively uh reached out to us and asked for an application. um, and Um, and so we sent them an application and they sent it back. Uh, so it's really kind of a first come first serve. uh, system at present and, and in, in uh, system at present. And, and in, in a sense that the world that we live in nowadays, if somebody was offended by an organization that was in there, um, what happens, how do we go about with something like that? Is it, you guys. Decide is the counc, decide is the council vote on it. The uh, the uh, Council uh, votes for additions and Uh, the uh, Council, uh, votes for additions and, uh, removals from the uh, program. Okay? You very much. I appreciate it. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you. thank you Alderman, sposano Alderman, Lee Thank. Thank you, madam chair. Um, I think you said during your presentation, I may have just missed it. Um, do we have in the aggregate? How many people particip? participate in the program currently? Uh, so I did not include. include that. Uh, in my presentation it is a little over 3,000 uh, employees who made. 3,000, uh, employees who made 8,000, uh, contributions. Um, employees can donate to uh more than 1. employees can donate to, uh, more than 1 charity and, uh, many choose to do so. So that's where the Des many choose to do so. So that's where the discrepancy between uh, contributors and contrib. between, uh, contributors and contributions comes from. It's a good problem to have. Yes. It's a good problem to have. Yes, generous employees who are participating? Uh, And the currently. Go. Actually. So through the chair, can you provide? Go. Actually. So through the chair. Can you provide, um, the the link of time each? the the link of time? Each of the 30 of the 29 that are currently, um, in the program, how long they've been in the program? Uh, yes, I can do that. Um, program? Uh, yes I can do that. Um, most if not, um, program? Uh, yes I can do that. Um, most if not um all will not uh many of these have been will not, uh, many of these have been in since, uh, 2007, um, I know black fire brigade and uh Ging. I know black fire brigade and uh Ginger. Our real guy, why me softball tournament. Our real guy, why me softball tournament were added in 20. In the 2020s. Um, and I believe EMQ. In the 2020s. Um, and I believe EMQ was added in 2008, but I will through the chair find exact dates for these additions. Yeah. And I'm also interested in just sort of how many, again in the aggregate. Um, how many people give to each of these? How many people give to each of these Charities and what they're getting? Um, Space is limited to 30. And, and I understand why. space is limited to 30 and, and I understand why, um, but uh, if there was, there were other people who wanted to participate in this. I know that there is a process for it, but then that necessarily means something has to come. but then that necessarily means something has to come off. So I'm wondering if there, if there is a process So I'm wondering if there if there is a process or if we need to come up with 1, that is you know, bar and Equitable at the end. Equitable at the end of the day, um, especially if there's organizations. organizations that maybe aren't getting as much usage. Um, organizations that maybe aren't getting as much usage, um, it could be taking up a space that maybe more employees would be interested. would be interested in. I, I agree with that. That was something that came up in my briefing with the Department about, uh, briefing with the Department about uh, uh, people who are organizations who are not really getting the support. Um, and how do we handle that? And I think it requires a little more discussion, okay? more discussion, okay. Uh yeah and and thank you for that chair. I I think chair. I, I think just for that reason. Um, it would be great to. I, I don't know what the annual report would include. I mean, this seems like I want to support this. general, uh, but would love to see a little bit more meat on the the bones in terms of the process. Um and what's going to be in this annual report Support. Because if we can use the report, then to evaluate who stays on and who, or if there is a reason to look at taking someone off, taking someone off the list, um, and giving someone else a shot. I think that would be a fair thing to do. Can you speak to the elements? speak to the elements of at least the elements that are in the general, the annual report? the general? The annual report that you're thinking of, or have considered? Yeah. So um at present, if I were to, uh, prepare an annual annual report today, there would be just a brief narrative summary of happenings followed, uh, by something like, uh, this, which has The Char. the Charities, the number of contributions and um, either the calendar year, total or the projected calendar. the calendar year, total or the projected calendar year, total and, Do we? Do we get any, uh, information from the Charities? And you may have already said this, and I apologize. If if you did. Um, Um do we get information from the Charities of how the funds are being? funds are being used? We do. Okay. so, So um we have not solicited that information. So, um, we have not solicited that information. I believe wholehearted like if we believe wholehearted, like, if we were to ask, they would tell us if that is something, uh, that would be of interest. I will, you know, send those emails if that is something, something that is wanted in the annual report, but philanthropic background coming and rearing its ugly head right now. So, don't mean to create more work, but I think it is useful. Um, especially if we want to get more than 3,000 employees. Uh, 3,000 employees, uh, donating. Ultimately, would you be willing to meet? willing to meet with? willing to meet with offline? Help. Uh, craft the uh, elements of Craft the, uh, elements of the annual report that would be helpful happy to. helpful. Happy to thank you. That's all I've got. seeing no other questions, uh, can Seeing no other questions. Uh, can I get a motion for approval of this item? So moved by, who was that? Alderman. Alderman Vasquez, all those in favor, signify by saying, Alderman Vasquez all those in favor signify by saying I I opposed in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the recommendation will be report. the recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Thank you. Thank you very much. Item number 5 is Number 5 is an ordinance. Amending the vehicle violation. Debt relief, ordinance of 202. debt relief, ordinance of 2025 to extend the debt relief period it period. It was a direct introduction and the ordinance, period. It was a direct introduction, and the ordinance has been prepared and sent electronically to everyone. We're joined by Joel Flores. Uh, joined by Joel Flores uh from the Department of Finance. To explain. This amendment. You don't have a presentation that you're speaking. Good afternoon. So, the substitute ordinance. So, the substitute ordinance is just, uh, an extension to allow motorists additional. allow motorists additional time to participate in the vehicle debt. vehicle debt relief program. Will you tell us? Will you tell us why? We're extending it for a month? um, to allow more motorists to Um, to allow more motorists to participate and to allow us more time to communicate out. more time to communicate out to our ahlers, our motor. more time to communicate out to our ahlers, our motorists, uh, to increase our current collection. uh, to increase our current collections, which are currently at about 10 million dollars right now. Uh, can you repeat the last part? I didn't. Yes. We're currently at about 10 million dollars and how much? currently at about 10 million dollars and how much that we budget for 15 15 million. So we're trying to make sure we get our 15. get our 15 million. Is that what? Yes. All right. Alderman. Reilly Thank you, madam chair and to kind of fles. Thank you, madam chair and to kind of flesh out the rest of that. Scenario for us. How much debt have we forgiven? 9.3, how much 9 9.3. How much 9.3 million. 9.3 million. Yes. And we've gotten 10 million in the door. And we've gotten 10 million in the door so far. Yes. And you want to extend this for how long. 1 month. And you believe that you're going to hit the 5 million. that you forecasted when you went into. that you forecasted when you went into this program? Yes. Okay. Okay, thank you. Madam chair. Thank you Alderman. Any other questions on this matter? uh, Alderman Reilly makes a motion for Uh, Alderman Reilly makes a motion for due passage um all those in favor. Signify by saying I I opposed in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, and the due pass recommend, recommendation will be reported out at the next city council. council meeting. Thank you Mr. Flores, thank you item number 6 from the Department of Fleet and facility management. management is an ordinance. A substitute ordinance, authorizing. The execution of the tax authorizing the execution of the tax increment, financing Redevelopment agreement and a Redevelopment agreement and A Renewed lease agreement with the Chicago Children's Advocacy Center for the city-owned propert. property, located at 1240 South Damen Avenue. property, located at 1240 South Damen Avenue in the 28th, ward in an amount. Not ward in an amount, not to exceed 2 million. ward in an amount, not to exceed 2 million, 9,000 205 dollars. Um, can I get a motion to accept the substitute? So moved by Alderman, Lee. All those in favor. Signify by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, and the substitute ordinance is now before us have it and the substitute ordinance is now before us and we'll be explained explained by Merit Solace the assistant, commissioner for the Department of assistant, commissioner for the Department of Fleet and facility management Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Sharon. Thank you. Good afternoon. Good afternoon Sharon. Thank you. Um, Good afternoon. Um, Good afternoon, um, members of the committee as well for the record. My name is marital the record. My name is Merit Elise on behalf of the Department of Fleet and facility management. The department is requesting your approval. the department is requesting your approval to execute a tiff Redevelopment agreement with the children. Um sorry the Chicago Children's Advocacy Center. the Chicago Children's Advocacy Center um here on after referred to as referred to a CCAC. The non-for-profit organization. The non-for-profit organization, leases property city property located at. property. Located at 1240 South Damen Avenue consisting, property. Located at 1240 South Damen Avenue consisting of approximately 28,000 square feet, approximately 28,000 square feet of building space and an adjoining. adjoining 43,000 square feet of parking space. The property is located in the 28. The property is located in the 28th war and Alderman. Ervin is in full support. For background, the department of Fleet and facility. management formerly entered into a lease agreement with the CCAC in July of 2012. CCAC in July of 2012, for the use of the site. The consider. The consideration for this lease is base, rent in the amount of $1. amount of $1 for the entire term. The lease. The lease is being extended for an additional 5 years. And the Redevelopment agreement, outlines a renovation. And the Redevelopment agreement, outlines a renovation, a renovation project for the existing FAQ. renovation project for the existing facility. The project is located with. The project is located within the Western Ogden Tiff area. in the purpose of the renovation is to maximize the use of space. Uh, that accommodates uh growth. space. Uh, that accommodates, uh, growth at the center and increase security mental, increase security, mental health, space Child Life Services, and additional and additional seating for CPD detectives that are housed at the center. are housed at the center working collaboratively with the CCAC, To. Total project cost is estimated at. Total project cost is estimated at 3,925. Project completion is estimated to. Project. Completion is estimated to wrap up. Um, Next. Next year. The CCAC has. The CCAC has uh received a Federal Grant in the amount. the CCAC has uh, received a Federal Grant in the amount of Oh, thank you. Uh, the CCAC has secured. uh, the CCAC has secured a $1 million, Grant Federal Grant uh the CCAC has secured a $1 million, Grant Federal Grant from um, from um Human Services, human resources and services. from um Human Services, human resources and services Administration. The Tif request is in the remaining amount of 2. million 9,250, which was Million 9,250 which was approved through the Tiff investment committee. In uh, March 26th of 2024. the need for, The need for the Tif funding is to address the increase in the demand. the demand for mental health services, which calls for added space for additional law enforcement professional. added space for additional law enforcement professionals, as well as additional clinical space for intake rooms and Education and Training rooms. The site was originally funded and built by the city of Chicago approximately 25 years ago. Chicago, approximately 25 years ago specifically to house the Chicago Children's. the Chicago Children's Advocacy Center, who coordinates the efforts of child protection Staff Law Enforcement professionals. professionals, family, advocates, uh, medical experts and mental health clinicians responding to reports of sexual. sexual uh child sexual abuse as well as physical abuse. Witness to viol. Witness to violence and other cases of serious maltreatment. Since its Inception. the CCAC has served more than The CCAC has served more than 50,000 children. over the years, the city has supported the work of the CCAC who partners with CCAC, who partners with the Chicago Police Department, the Illinois Department. Illinois Department of Children and Family Services. And the Cook County State's Attorney's office, We? We continue to coordinate with the center on Improvement projects. projects at the facility, which is why we're here today to respect. respectfully request your favorable consideration. respectfully request your favorable consideration and the approval of this Tif RDA and the CCAC has, and the CCAC has a long-standing protocol with investigative Partners such that the police department orders, the orders the Department of Children and Family Services. orders the Department of Children and Family Services, uh, policy specifically require that. policy specifically require that CCAC be used for the investigative. Uh, investigative uh efforts of these crimes. CPD. Also occupies space here in this building. CPD. Also occupies space here in this building to allow for partnership in the critical work that they do. partnership in the critical work that they do on behalf of the city. And we're joined here today. And we're joined here today by CEO of the CCAC. And we're joined here today by CEO of the CCAC Shara revette who can tell us a little bit more about the services that they provide Yes. Um, Miss revette if you could speak to your work as Yes. Um Miss revette if you could speak to your work as CEO, I know you have um your compassionate leadership has had a major had a major impact over there and it's great to see um Aaron car. Aaron Carboni working with you. Thank you, chairwoman dowel. Thank you for those. Thank you, chairwoman dowel. Thank you for those kind words and thank you Merit. I am Shah and thank you Merit. I am shahat CEO Chicago Children's Advocacy Center and as you heard we've been around. Advocacy Center and as you heard we've been around for 25 years we have been in a very strong relationship. years we have been in a very strong relationship and partnership with the city of Chicago, all these years partnership with the city of Chicago. All these years being supported financially by our building and also, supported financially by our building and also by grants that we received through the department of family. that we received through the Department of Family and support services and through the Department of Public Health as well. So we appreciate very much this long-term partnership with the city of Chicago. We are required by City protocol. City protocol and by state protocol to serve any child. That's been a victim of sexual abuse, That's been a victim of sexual abuse. That's reported reported in the city of Chicago. So, reported in the city of Chicago. So we we are there for every child. Every citizen in the city. every child, every citizen in the city of Chicago. Uh, if that's report a crime reported to CPD or the Department of Children and Family Services, Children and Family Services. So we we are here for them every day of the week. every day of the week 365, to make sure that those investigations are done successfully. Uh, between those 2 entities and that we are there for those kids. entities and that we are there for those kids every single Say to make sure they are supported. Say to make sure they are supported in their families are supported as well. We are out of space completely. We have about 180 people in this building at this point. about 180 people in this building at this point in time between our staff and all the partner staff. We are squished in there. We want to make sure that we can improve our FAQ our facilities to serve more children and to make sure that all of our partners staff have adequate space so that we can effectively work. can effectively work together. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Revit. And I know we have a letter of support from Alderman. Ervin Alderman, do you? support from Alderman. Ervin Alderman, do you want to weigh in here? I see you remain. in here? I see you remained on. All right. Thank you. Madam chair. All right, thank you, madam chair. Um, again the work that Sharon and her team do over there with our young people who, who've gone through some probably 1 of the most dramatic experiences. experiences of their lives. Um and the way they do this, experiences of their lives. Um, and the way they do this, and go about using the, uh, best practices that are that are known in this place, actually, are known in this place. Actually, on people come there to, uh, witness and see what the work that our starter team do their there, um, and they are really, really out of there. Um, and they are really, really out of space. Uh, if you've ever been over there, you'll see how our Detectives. are uh, assistant States attorneys and other people. are uh, assistant States attorneys and other people are just crammed into that facility. Um sorry our team. just crammed into that facility. Um sorry our team have gone out and secured some federal money from uh I Senator Durban and uh working with the state to get additional funding, uh, to expand. Uh, physically, additional funding uh to expand, uh, physically, expand the space and also expand services. So, again, the space and also expand services. So again, uh, it's definitely a very positive use of our city resources. Uh, because again, it's hoping some of the most vulnerable people. People in society are young people. People in society are young people who have experienced sexual trauma. Thank you. Madam chair. Thank you Alderman. Uh, did see Alderman laspata? You did put your hand up. Just Yes, thank you. Yes, thank you so much chair. Um, I think the work Happening Here is incredible. It's 1 of the aspects of response to violence. aspects of response to violence and abuse that if you have not had an opportunity, not had an opportunity to go in person, I think it's something that needs to be not even seen But felt something that needs to be, not even seen, But felt to be fully understood. It is. It is as cramped as you say, and in. it is as cramped as you say and in terms of space, I I did want to ask if you could speak a little bit, want to ask if you could speak a little bit to the vision for the can hope. vision for the can Hope Center, and what that would mean for. for coordination and victims of sexual abuse in Chicago, Yes, my pleasure. Yes, my pleasure Alderman. Um, our next kind of Yes, my pleasure Alderman. Um our next kind of big project at Chicago cc is to open something called can hope that Chicago advocacy Network for Hope which will take the model that we do with children, who have been sexually, abused and traumatized, and apply that model to adults. and traumatized and apply. That model to adults who are experiencing domestic violence and sexual violence. We are about to open Phase 2 which is on the west side of Chicago van beer and Home in some rented space but van beer and Home in some rented space. But our long-term vision is to actually build another building. vision is to actually build another building next to the existing building owned by the city of Chicago. existing building owned by the city of Chicago and connect that new building to, uh, Chicago CC. And our idea is to fund raise for that, Building and we do have 5 million already. Building and we do have 5 million already committed by the city of Chicago. Uh and we hope to expand upon city of Chicago. Uh, and we hope to expand upon that and also look at other government sources and private sources to build a new building connect, to build a new building connected to Chicago CC in truly expand. expand, our entire mental health program will move over there. And also we will open up, can hope fully for all. there. And also, we will open up, can hope fully for all residents of the city of Chicago that are experiencing Domestic and Sexual Violence of any age. Domestic and Sexual Violence. Of any age will be able to come to the center, a full service area. come to the center, a full service area or a full service center, coloc center, co-locating all the different domestic violence and sexual assault AG. sexual assault agencies that do amazing work in the city of Chicago already. So our idea is that we we would help survivors navigate the very complex system that exists. survivors navigate the very complex system that exists, make sure they get Safety and Security immediately that they can access law enforcement and trauma-informed way. they can access law. Enforcement and trauma-informed way, then they can get all the services they need to heal truly So we're really looking at intergenerational Community violence. violence from The Domestic and Sexual perspective in 1 place. in the city of Chicago, and we think Chicago, In the city of Chicago, and we think Chicago deserves to have this, we're 1 of the only large cities. have this we're 1 of the only large cities in the entire country that does not have this model. So I think it's time for Chicago to get 1 too. It's an exciting Vision, thank you for sharing it. And thank you for letting us walk this path with you. Thank you. Thank you, chair. Thank you chair. Thank you. So all motion made by Alderman laspada, recommending do pass of item. Number 6. laspada, recommending do pass of item, number 6, all those in favor. Signify by saying, I in favor. Signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the do pass recommendation will report it out at the next city council meeting. Thank you, Miss Solace, thank you. you, Miss Solace. Thank you chair item. Number 7 from the Department of planning and development and ordinance. Authorizing the authorizing the expansion and funding of the corridor managing manager marketing program in the Bronzeville, priority Corridor by adding 47 priority Corridor by adding, 47th Street from Cottage, Grove to Prairie Avenue. to Prairie Avenue, we're joined by Jim harbon. Deputy commiss Commissioner from the Department of planning and development, Good morning, Mr. Harbin chairwoman And members of the committee. For the record. My name is Jim Harbin. Deputy Commissioner with the Department of planning and development. On January 15th of 20. On January 15th of 2025 the city council. The city council, uh the city council of Chicago. The city council uh the city council of Chicago passed an ordinance, which approved a program. ordinance, which approved a program to support selected Community Based organizations. Community Based organizations called Corridor managers to Market Commercial sites to prospective businesses developers and investors and to Market various economic development program. Development programs and incentives within 14 commercial Cor. corridors across the city. Today. Today, the city requests to revise the description. today, the city requests to revise, the description of 1 of the initial priority corridors within the the initial priority. Corridors within the ordinance by extending the boundary of the Bronzeville. Corid. extending the boundary of the Bronzeville corridor. uh, the funding request today is Uh, the funding request today is for $100,000 from the 47th and King. and King Drive Tiff. Uh, the total project cost. and King Drive Tiff. Uh, the total project cost is 1.4 million and the project timeline is for the year 2025. Current boundary of the Brownsville Corridor consists of caught. Cottage Grove Avenue from 42nd Street to 48th Street. The proposed revision seeks to extend those. proposed revision seeks to extend those boundaries along 47th Street from Maryland. 47th Street from Maryland Avenue East to Prairie Avenue to align with. align with the city's streetscaping investment currently along the way on the corridor. This. This program was designed to support community-based organizations that. organizations. That would act as essential Partners in the city's ongoing. city's ongoing mission to reverse Decades of systemic disinvest. disinvestment in the South and West sides of of the city. The city has authorized the department of planning to design. designate local initiatives, support Corporation Or List Chicago. Chicago, to manage this year's marketing program for a for a term. Not to exceed, not exceeding 1 year. a term, not to exceed, not exceeding 1 year, but the total compensation captured 1.4 million Today's request. Is. Is to fund and extend the marketing program and bronze. Is to fund and extend the marketing program and Bronzeville to 47th Street from Maryland to Prairie for 1 year. to 47th, Street from Maryland to Prairie for 1 year and amount not to exceed $100,000. amount not to exceed. $100,000, this funding will come from that incremental tax generated by the 47th King Drive. Tiff the affected tiffs have been confirmed by the department and the impacted all the person. and the impacted, all the persons I've been notified. Thank you madam, chairwoman and members. you, madam. Chairwoman and members of the committee. This concludes my presentation. I'm happy. concludes my presentation, I'm happy to take it in your questions. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Harvard, um, as the 1 of the alderman in the Bronzeville, uh, area, uh, alderman in the Bronzeville uh area uh this was important to extend the program. to extend the program uh to support uh investment that. to extend the program uh, to support uh investment that the city and the private sector already doing doing along. 47th Street. Um, we want to make sure that doing along, 47th Street. Um, we want to make sure that we can, um, fill up some of the VAC can, um, fill up some of the vacant, uh, commercial properties. And properties and, uh, bring a reliable. reliable and useful mix of amenities to the Reliable and useful mix of amenities to the 47th Street Corridor. So I ask for your support. Corridor. So I ask for your support on this. Any questions related to this project? uh, Alderman Reilly has a question so I just Uh, Alderman Reilly has a question, so I just want to be clear on what what the ask is today. The ask is to extend the geographic boundary. the ask is to extend the geographic boundary of the card or manager program, which is now manager program which is now focused on only on Cottage Grove to expand it to include 47th. Grove to expand it to include 47th Street, which is just the historical. Um, the historical, um, commercial heart of Bronzeville from Cottage. Cottage, Grove to Prairie Avenue, and there's a hundred thousand dollar price tag associated with that. Yes, from the uh, Braun Bronzeville. Yes, from the uh Braun Bronzeville. 47th and King Drive Tiff. And that Tiff and that 100,000 dollars is going to be used for marketing. It's going to be used to help support. It's going to be used to help support the core manager or the organization's over there. the organization's over there, doing the work. And we need to pull from a tiff in those areas in order to support that. No, I guess I'm just trying to figure out what we're spending. $100,000 on specifically Specifically on the organizations doing the work doing. specifically on the organizations doing the work, doing the marketing work, along the corridor, in the organization doing the work, and the Bronzeville. Community the only organization that we have for economic development. organization that we have for economic development is uh, the well not the only 1 but the 1 that's focused primarily on Cottage Grove. on Cottage Grove, 47th Street and 43rd Street is the quad. on Cottage Grove, 47th Street and 43rd Street is the quad communities Development Corporation headed by Rhonda McFarland. Okay? And just so I'm clear the hundred thousand dollars is To pay. For. For to help sustain their budget, or is it to pay for specific Market? specific marketing activities marketing activities such as as such as helping to support uh, City. as such as helping to support, uh, City programming, to help support, I guess what tactics are help support. I guess, what tactics are we paying for is? The more specific question? Yeah, the advertising is it bus shelter? bus shelter? What are we spending the money on? We're we're, we're, we're paying. we're, we're, we're paying for the organizations to help attract Developers. attract developers and investors to the quarter or marketing. marketing city funding programs for Capital Improvements. I can be more specific about how the dollars are going to be spent. So be helpful when, when people spent. So be helpful, when when people come in looking for marketing money, since that's something I used to do for a living, I I'm living. I I'm just curious to see how it's being spent Community Development Corporation. Community Development Corporation, has a number of programs that they do. that they do along the corridor every year. that they do along the corridor every year, some of them relate to holding. Um, relate to holding um, um, seminars and forums. relate to holding um um seminars and forums. Um we're working with them now on a seminar for example, with the Example, with the Wells Fargo that's coming into the community to help. community to help business owners and people interested. community, to help, business owners, and people interested in Bronzeville, being able to invest in the, in the corridor. Um, they also hold events. corridor. Um, they also hold events like, uh, Bronzeville summer nights. Uh, the art Trolley Tours, um, to summer nights, uh, the art Trolley Tours, um, to give people an understanding of what the opportunities are along. 47th Street, thank you. along. 47th Street. Thank you, ottoman. You answered the question. I was was I was Was I was asking, thank you. Motion made by Alderman MO. Motion made by Alderman Moore for due pass all those in favor. Signify by saying, I I opposed and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the due pass recommendation, recommendation will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Thank you Mr. Hartman. Item, number 8 is a substitute. Item. Number 8 is a substitute ordinance, authorizing. The execution of the 65th Amendment to the service. execution of the 65th Amendment to the service agreement with some core 504. with some core 504 Inc to extend the small business Improvement. improvements spiff program to the Foster. improvements spiff program to the Foster Eden's and the Little Village East Redevelopment. Little Village East Redevelopment project areas, provide additional funding. additional funding to 16 Redevelopment project areas. additional funding to 16. Redevelopment project areas and amend the program rules um to a which affects the first third 67th 10th 1516 67th 10th, 1516 19th 22nd. 67th 10th. 1516 19th 22nd 24th 25th 26th. 67th 10th. 1516 19th 22nd 24th, 25th 26th 27th. 67th 10th. 1516 19th 22nd 24th 25th 26th 27th 39th and 67th 10th. 1516 19th 22nd 24th, 25th 26th 27th. There is a substitute. there is a substitute ordinance which has been prepared and sent electronically to everyone. Is there a motion to accept the substitute? accept the substitute so moved by Alderman Silverstein all those in favor signify by saying, I those in favor. Signify by saying I oppose and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, and the substitute ordinances before us and we'll be explained by Gabelle. Yes. Miranda. Miranda from the Department of Planning and Development. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, chairwoman dowel and members of the and North Korea. I didn't see you over there. Nora Curry, Curry program director from dpd, thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for having us. My name is Gaba Del Miranda, coordinator. is Gaba Del Miranda, coordinator of economic development in the Small Business Development Bureau. the Small Business Development Bureau in the department of planning and development. Planning and Development. We are here today. Speaking, your approval for the 65th amending ordinance. To the administrative service is agreement with Summer core. This ordinance serves 2 purposes to update certain spiff rules and to replenish funds for the small business Improvement program in 18. Improvement program in 18 tax increment. Financing districts The rule changes will make the spiff program. the rule changes will make the spiff program in the L, South Central Tiff where consistent with the general spiff program and open the program tomorrow applicants as well as update. update and clarify requirements. The new funds will address waiting lists and provide enough. available funds to address applications immediately. available funds to address applications immediately to avoid waiting lists in the future. As. as you are aware the spiff program, utilizes As you are aware the spiff program. Utilizes Tiff revenues to offer reimbursement. Grants to to offer reimbursement grants to Commercial and Industrial businesses, as well as property. businesses as well as property owners. In specific tiffs to. In specific, tiffs to facilitate permanent. Improvements to their. Improvements to their properties. The program is not selected as long as applicants and projects are eligible and they meet the program requirements. They will receive spiff funding. The Citywide role Amendment. The Citywide role amendments and are primarily administrative upd. administrative updates and clarifications the ordinance removes. removes all language and Maps referring to removes all language and Maps, referring to invest, Southwest and spiff Target. Corridors, Southwest and spiff. Target corridors as these programs have ended previously. have ended previously, applicants located in 1 of these corridors. corridors received priority in case of lottery in the case, of the Lysol Central, of the Lysol Central Tiff, only properties located within the spiff Target Corridor. Where eligible to apply? The ordinance also revises. the ordinance, also, revises requirements for landlord applicants to relate only to the portion of the property spiff funds were used for it also adds reference to The ground floor design guidelines, which were adopted in. November 2024 by planning. November 2024 by Planning Commission in the design, requirements section, requirements section. And finally it updates, the service Prov. provider agreement with Summer core concerning ownership and insurance. some language previously. Only properties. spiff. Target. Corridor along the Lao Central, Corridor. Corridor have been eligible to apply for. Corridor have been eligible to apply for spiff in this Tif This ordinance. this ordinance removes all the spiff Target corridors and expands the spiff eligible area in the expands the spiff eligible area. In the South Central, Tiff to the entire Tiff area. This change is consistent with the general. This change is consistent with the general spiff program roles throughout the city. Current. currently taverns and bars are not eligible for Currently taverns and bars are not eligible for spiff funding in the South Central Tiff. The ordinance makes existing taverns and bars eligible. existing taverns and bars eligible for Swift under certain conditions. The amendment is consistent with the rules for Tavern. taverns and bars established for the city-wide spiff program. program in 2021. the conditions are that the applicant must hold a valid table, or tabber license, active for a minimum of 2 years. The business must also be under the same ownership for a minimum of 2 years. The applicant must also pass vetting by bacp for licensed disciplined cases public. bacp for licensed disciplined, cases, public nuisance, Community, meetings, the remaining Lau, Central spiff, amendments, clarify intent. amendments, clarify intent, by removing reference to the great Halls. great Halls which are Grand banking rooms in some buildings within this District. within this District as eligible and replaces it with with ground floor expansion at DP. it, with ground floor expansion at dpd's discretion. It also clarifies that. It also clarifies that the 50,000 bonus offered for business. businesses, expanding from low to moderate income areas. businesses, expanding from low to moderate income. Areas is for those that are opening additional locations. for those, that are opening additional locations, not relocating here. in addition to rule changes the ordinance before you would authorize a total of 17.2 million, authorize a total of 17.2 million to 18 tips, which would replenish would replenish this Biv program in 16 T districts. would replenish this Biv program in 16 T districts and start the program in 2 T districts that start the program in 2 T districts. That have not offered Biff funding before. Biff funding before dpd has reached out to all 24 Elder people. people affected by the funding request the 2 people affected by the funding request. The 2 News Biff areas are Foster Eden's Tiff and Little Village East Tiff The Foster Eden's Tiff is entirely. The Foster Eden's Tiff is entirely within the 39th Ward and has 17 years. has 17 years before it expires. There are around 90. has 17 years before it expires, there are around 90 list, licensed businesses and the funding. licensed businesses and the funding request is in response to community demand. We recommend establishing this Biff with an initial allocation of 700,000. with an initial allocation of 700,000 750,000 We are also requesting. We are also requesting dollars to establish the little village. Village, East spiff. This request was initiated. Village, East spiff. This request was initiated by Alderman. Sigcho Lopez 72. Alderman. Sigcho Lopez 72% of the Tif is within the 25th. Ward. Ward 21% is within the 24th Ward. Ward 21% is within the 24th Ward 8, and 8% is in the 22. Ward. This Tif has 10 years before the expiration and covers approximately covers, approximately 90, licensed businesses, reflecting a strong community. strong Community need for investment. The remaining. The remaining the remaining funding funding request of. The remaining the remaining funding funding request of 16 million dollars and 16th will address. million dollars and 16th will address waiting lists provide enough funding to avoid future waiting lists and ensure equitable distribution in tiffs across the city equitable distribution, in tiffs across the city in all the ordinance would authorize a total of 17.2 million in Tif funds to fun. Tif funds to fund new spiff, funding and 18. Tif funds, to fund new spiff, funding and 18, Tif districts. If city council passes this If city council passes, this ordinance dpd anticipates that we can begin to address waiting lists and rolling out. we can begin to address waiting lists and rolling out new funds. As early as this fall. We look forward to funds. As early as this fall, we look forward to continuing to work with you to support our businesses. to work with you to support our businesses and our neighborhoods throughout the city. We respectfully request, your approval of this ordinance. Thank you. And thank you. And thank you, gabelle. I just want to be clear. I see you have list. have listed delegate agencies there but businesses do not. have to go through those delegate agencies to assess this program. Is that correct? Correct? Okay. um, Um, almond Scott. Thank you chair. Um, and thank you for the presentation. I just want to be clear because uh the 24th award was mentioned and I want to and I haven't been briefed on this. So I want to know what does that mean? So I want to know what does that mean for the 24th Ward um, it means that these funds will be available within the Tif and businesses within the stiff will be eligible to apply. apply for these funds to make improvements to their properties. So, it's addition to what's already. So, it's addition to what's already there. Okay. Alderman. Alderman, Rodriguez, I'm sorry all them in CEO Lopez. Followed by Alderman Rodriguez. Thank you. Um, thank you. Thank you, madam chair. Just just, I think all the women Scott already mentioned that. I think there's no being any allocation other than having additional resources. Um, we are as, you know, in a very resources. Um, we are as you know, in a very desperate situation to help a small businesses, this last weekend. Uh, I tell you that we we're talked to some of the businesses that were hardly any sales because of the fear and everything that is going on in our community. Um, I can with the 3 collections, with the 3 collections that are in that, I mean, Alderman, Rodriguez, Alderman Scott. Rodriguez, Alderman, Scott women's Scott. And, and in the 25th Ward, The Hope is that we work together with the Department. Again, this is just the beginning of the conversation. As you mentioned, there's not even delegate agencies that, you know, we welcome any feedback from any of the other colleagues. The dire need to support a small businesses. I think in every Community is there special in communities like ours, so we communities like ours. So we look forward to working with both all the persons and and and bringing support as we discussed together in. discussed together in a very desperate situation. So I just want to ask our colleagues. want to ask our colleagues for um um for a favorable consideration. Of this item. Thank you. Thank you, all. For coming Rodriguez. Yeah, I just think it's the best practice. Yeah, I just think it's a best practice to reach out beforehand. So I expect more. beforehand. So I expect more uh with that said, this is great. This is a good investment in neighborhood. businesses. Um, I think my colleague and I would agree, we just, you know, when our Wards are brought up like this, we should be involved and engaged. Um, and I'm glad this money is coming to that part of the neighborhood that desperately needs it. Um, we have a lot of change happening over in the East. The, the West, most part of the That TIF district. So, um, I'm sure we'll be looking to to leverage this as well. Um, but I'm not going to hold this up. We can move forward. All right, Alderman, Scott. You might want. might want to take a look at this. This is your letter. Sport. Okay. Uh, Alderman Silverstein followed by Alderman Reilly. Uh, thank you. I just wanted to know how these maybe you said. said it. Make how these spiffs Or chosen, I know. or chosen. I know that there's more. Um, for the 2 new For the 2, new ones. We did get a request from Alderman Sig. Sigel Lopez. The other 1 was demand in the community for the ones that we're refunding. Um, we looked at all of the the ones that we're refunding. Um we looked at all of the the existing spiffs and, and reviewed which ones were out of funding, which ones we had. had waiting lists, on which 1, we had a little bit of funding but anticipated upcoming need. Um, and we looked at the upcoming expiration dates, um, we wanted to make sure for those that are Um, we wanted to make sure for those that are expiring soon. We didn't want anybody to be held up. We didn't want anybody to be held up by by being on a waiting list and slowing them down. We just want to make sure we had enough money to cover everybody. sure we had enough money to cover, everybody who was going to be applying and then we we looked at how much money we actually had in the Tif. So there were a few we were turned down for or we were limited in how much money we could ask for because of what was available in the taxing increment. Financing District, excuse me. Um, we are always happy to talk about additional funding. we are always happy to talk about additional funding and other tips if that's a concern. Alderman, Lee keeps moving. So she keeps getting in my view. That's okay. um, okay, maybe Um, okay, maybe we could talk after. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Alderman, Alderman. Reilly Thank you, madam chair. Have the ottoman for all of these wars. wars listed, um, provided letter of support, or are you missing any Uh, we are missing 2. uh, we are missing 2 letters of support from the um, 15th Ward. Sorry, which Ward 15th and the 15th Ward, sorry, which Ward 15th and the 33rd Ward 18th and 33rd. And I'm curious. Um, you mentioned the Lal Central Tiff? Yet the 42nd Ward isn't listed on your list. Uh, if that's true, that's an error. Yes, it is. Uh if that's true, that's an error. Yes it is. Yeah. Um, you have a letter of support for me in there. have a letter of support for me in there. Yes. If it's an error and you're not even listed, I don't have error and you're not even listed. I don't have a letter of support. Oh, we did get a letter. of support. Oh, we did get a letter of support for the 42nd Ward. Um, from Riley. Yes, from Joanna. We spoke with Johanna and she sent us a letter. Okay, well, that was nice of her. Um, I I I should have, I should have gotten a briefing myself. briefing myself, um, and I guess, briefing myself, um, and I guess that's, that's where I'm going with this. I would I would echo my colleague's comments. I know that you depend on our staff, but I think it's important to to make sure that you have a, an actual conversation with us, would be a briefing. Um, I'm not gonna hold this up either. Um, but just, you know, I understand and 1 of the spiff requests, we have, um, a $500,000 requests initiated by ottoman s Cho Lopez. $500,000 requests initiated by ottoman, s Cho Lopez it impacts 2 other colleagues, it begs. impacts 2 other colleagues. It begs a question that that's a pretty specific amount of money is a pretty specific amount of money. Is there, is there something already anticipated for that money? no, we released the spiff money and then No, we released the spiff money and then and then have the roll out the amount of money. We actually, I think asked for more money there, but that was all. more money there, but that was all, we could get all that was available in that taxi career and financing that was available in that taxi program, financing district for spiff, so that's how much we're releasing. for spiff. So, that's how much we're releasing or we're asking for, excuse me. Uh, all of them and Marley. asking for, excuse me, uh, all of them and Riley, that's accurate. I mean, they have like buckets 500,000 and there's 750 all the way over to a million. So, 750 all the way over to a million. So I guess it depends on, um, What's in the waiting list? How much is in the Tif? What's in the waiting list? How much is in the Tif okay? Very good. Thank you. Chairman Thank you. Um, We did not receive. We did not receive uh, the letter of support from the 42nd. Ward just um, If you could, just give it to us. So we If you could just give it to us so we can that before our records. Um, Seeing no other questions can. Seeing no other questions. Can I get a? Motion to. Motion to so moved by Alderman Hall. Uh, recommending due pass all those in favor? uh, recommending due pass all those in favor, signify by saying I oppose and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, and the recommendation, the do, it and the recommendation, the do pass, recommendation will report it out at the next meeting. Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone item. Number 9 Thank you. Everyone item. Number 9 from the Department of Housing and ordinance author. Housing and ordinance, authorizing the restructuring of a loan agreement with Argyle neighborhood Development Corporation to forgive the principal amount of the city loan and the sale and transfer of San Miguel Apartments. loan and the sale and transfer of San Miguel Apartments located at 9007, West argal. located at 9007, West argal Street to 9007 West argal. LLC. LLC in the 48th Ward were joined by Kat. LLC in the 48th Ward were joined by Katrina Collins. Financial planning analyst. Financial planning analyst with the Department of Housing. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, good afternoon, chairwoman dowel and members of the kid committee. members of the kid committee for the record. My name is Katrina Collins. I'm a financial planning analyst with the Department of Housing asset management team. Um, I'm joined today by our assistant commissioner Asia Bonner, as well as the development team. the development team, Rafael Leon and Russell Ridin from CMA HD. CMA, HDC, which will be the proposed buyer today. We're discuss. discussing San Miguel Apartments the properties located at 9. 9007 West Argyle in the Uptown community in Fort. 9007 West Argyle in the Uptown community. In 48th Ward under alderwoman Lenny manah alderwoman Lenny, mana hoppenworth and we do have a letter of support. As a result of the Heartland, housing, collapse. restructuring efforts, specific to San Miguel Apartments will include the sale and transfer of the property from Argyle neighborhood de Argyle neighborhood Development Corporation to Chicago, metropolitan Metropolitan Housing, Development Corp, which will be referred to as CMH, referred to as chdc we are proposing debt. Forgiveness in exchange for preserving, 75% of the units, affordable at 80%, Ami and below. And just to note that there is no new financing as part of this request. Uh, please note that saint. uh, please note that San Miguel and Leland Apartments which will be presented next will be presented. Next are part of the H Heartland portfolio that consists of 12 properties. portfolio that consists of 12 properties, San Miguel and the Leyland are 2 of 3 properties. the Leyland are 2 of 3 properties that are still in the disposition Pro process. disposition Pro process in March of 2023 Heartland Alliance which was the Alliance, which was the parent Agency. For Heartland housing, informed the department of housing informed, the Department of Housing that their affordable housing portfolio. affordable housing portfolio was in distress and at risk of collapse the city along with other collapse, the city along with other public funders funder, interests, filed a interests filed, a receivership complaint in an emergency motion in court. adrenal receiver was appointed to control the Adrenal receiver was appointed to control the Affairs of all properties. The portfolio under properties. The portfolio, underwent an extensive review process to begin restructuring activities. process to begin restructuring activities for each building. The portfolio includes those propert. building. The portfolio includes those properties listed on the screen. A little background on San Miguel. The property is a 4. story, brick elevator, building that houses. A total of 71 residents. The building was originally constructed in 1922. San Miguel, underwent rehab, San Miguel, underwent re Rehabilitation that was completed in 1994 the reh. in 1994. The rehab received funding from the city of Chicago and the amount of approximately 2.1 million of Home funds. funds in 2009. The building underwent to refinancing of the first mortgage, they also requested the maturity of the city of Chicago. city of Chicago home loan, be extended to be co-terminus with Ida. with Ida's loan. The original expiration date of the loan was August. was August of 2009. It was extended until June of 2 0 was August of 2009. It was extended until June of 2033. The amendment also changed the monthly note. amendment also changed the monthly note from 500 in the 1993 agreement to 1993 agreement, to a monthly note of just under 21,100 effective as of 2010. The current owner of the property is argal neighborhood development. development Corp. It is proposed to sell to CMH. Development Corp. It is proposed to sell to chdc. Argyle neighborhood. Development. Corp was Argyle neighborhood development. Corp was a tactic tax exempt entity created by Heartland housing. exempt entity created by Heartland housing, Inc. To hold ownership in the project. Chtc was originally created in 1982 to. Chtc was originally created in 1982 to serve as an instrumentality of CHA to help Finance Construction. instrumentality of CHA to help Finance construction and Rehab of Apartments of Chicago's low-income residents. Rehab of Apartments of Chicago's low-income residents around 1996. The organization was restructured as a nonprofit Housing Development to serve Chicago. nonprofit Housing Development to serve Chicago's metropolitan area. They have invested more than 70 million dollars to acquire and redevelop 740 units since the restructuring. Cast management. Cast Management Service will be taking over as the property manager. They serve as a third-party property management company since 1985. company since 1985, they currently serve over 9,000 units. within over 400 properties and the Chicago area and then, as a note chdc had subm and then as a note, chdc had submitted a proposal to require the building in the early stages of receivership. Another applicant was selected. However, they withdrew their application in November of 2024, the other applicant would have been coming to the city in this upcoming qap round to request up to 16 million dollars. In addition to the Assumption of the existing, the Assumption of the existing 1.7 million CMH. Cmdc was approached by the receiver to confirm that they're still interested in. still interested in purchasing the building. They did express interest with the understanding. express interest with the understanding the city of Chicago would be unable to provide additional resources. The original Ami. The original Ami structure of this building included all 71 units restricted. units restricted at 50%. Ami um, the units, restricted at 50% Ami. Um, the rent rolls do currently show 25% of the units. currently show. 25% of the units are vacant. So the transition of these 18 market rate units will not affect the current residents, the building currently has 14 project-based Section 8 contract with cha cha has confirmed the Assumption of the existing vouchers. the Assumption of the existing vouchers will be approved. the above fronts are The above fronts are reflective at stabilization which will occur by year 3. occur by year 3, they do have a rent transition plan, in which the rents will remain closer to the 50%, Ami level for the first, the first 2 years. uh, as seeing are the HUD rent limits, the maximum, affordable rentals for each Ami that they're going to be, um, Adjusting to and then this is reflect. Adjusting to. And then this is reflective of the tenants paying like for electric. paying like for electric cooking, and other Electric. as part of the request, they are seeking loan forgiveness from the city of Chicago and Ida in order for C. from the city of Chicago and Ida in order for chtc to maximize the potential donation value of maximize the potential donation, value of 3.3 million in the request for donation tax. Credits from Ida, the existing debt is requested to be forgiving. The debt forgiveness allows approximately 1.3 million of equity for cash improvements through cash, improvements through the donation tax credits, by forgiving the loan this forgiving the loan, the city's able to help transfer the building to an owner that is committed to improving the living conditions of the residents at Sam. living conditions of the residents at Samuell and preserve. 75% of the units to remain. 75% of the units, to remain affordable below. 80% for the next 15. next 15 years and the, the proposed. next 15 years and the the proposed owner, operator is a Noah operator. So they operator. So they deal specifically with natural occurring, afford occurring, affordable housing. So the long term is likely longer than that 15-year. Mark chdc. longer than that 15-year, Mark chdc. Um, did share that they intend to use its own line of credit for the intend to use its own line of credit for the construction period. After the building stabilized, they plan to secure a first mortgage to release the application of the line of credit which will be Use drain Construction. Uh, the proposed scope of work is as shown its anticipated for approximately 3 million dollars of repairs with 1 million dollars being complet. million dollars being completed within the first year of ownership. CMH, ownership. Chdc intends to update the vacant units first, all additional rehab. all additional rehab work is intended to be complete completed with tenants, completed with tenants in place. The building's located. The building's located between Sheridan Drive and Marine Drive a few blocks. Drive a few blocks south of Foster. And so, and so, I do want to just remind again that this building has been in receivership for the last 2 years. So some of the out, the outcomes public benefits of this sale were preserving. the outcomes, public benefits of this sale were preserving 53 units of affordable housing at San Miguel. They've already, um, served the Chicago. already, um, served the Chicago land area for 32 years afford. affordability in, excuse me, affordability restrictions will ensure a minimum of 15, more years, affordability at this. this location with no additional cost to the city. this location with no additional cost to the city, the transfer of the building to a new owner insurers Improvement of the living conditions for the current residents. We're ensuring that the residents. We're ensuring that. The first mortgage will be paid off by the new owner. paid off by the new owner which eliminates any chance of foreclosure and also eliminates. foreclosure. And also eliminates the risk to transfer to a fully market rate building Our Tim. our timeline, if approved we will pass out this month in June with a timeline closing of August. And our requested actions. And our requested actions again today. Um, with a reminder that there's no new financing for this project that uh, excuse me, the approval of sale and transfer of the physical asset of 1 building known as San Miguel Apartments from Argyle, from Argyle Development Corporation to cmht the approval of debt forgiveness for approximately 1.7, approval of debt forgiveness for approximately 1.75 million and the approval of the proposed. approval of the proposed change of units, um, income restrictions to include. restrictions to include 18 units at 50%. Ami 35 units at 80 80%, Ami and 18, market rate units, And that concludes my presentation, if there's any questions. questions, thank you Katrina before we go to the questions, thank you, Katrina, before we go to the alderman wanted to, uh, call on Alderman Reilly Um, thank you madam chair. You you Um, thank you, madam chair. You you mentioned at the beginning of the presentation. Um, beginning of the presentation, um, that various properties in the Heartland portfolio. in the Heartland portfolio, were considered to be distressed. Um, is there a common theme there is each 1. stress for a different reason. Well, it's just the parent AG. agency owner. There was a crumbling at that level. Um but as of right now, not 9 of the 12 units have been relocated to new owners. and, And specifically, the San Miguel. Um, how many of the market rate units are currently vacant. Um, market rate units are currently vacant, um, 18 out of 18 out of 71 units, total and how many, but how many units in the building? the building are market rate today? There were there, currently, they're all 50%. currently, they're all 50%, we're going to be adjusting it, to have 18 Market. to have 18, market rate, and currently, all those are vacant. So they're not affecting any of the current residents that live there. Okay. Um, all right. I'll I'll hold off. Thank, thank you madam chair. And Katrina. The building is not 100% occupied. Correct. Correct. There's 25% vacancy currently which is the 18s Sorry chair. Um, what I was going to go with that? Is there a specific reason why? a specific reason why the market rate units are? Empty. Well, they're not market rate yet, they're going to transition to Market. transition to market rate, so they're going to start by updating those units first and then, updating those units first and then filling them as market rate units to start. rate units to start producing that higher, cash flow to reinvest back into the building. reinvest back into the building and they feel pretty confident. They can fill those units at market rate, given the the rest of the balance of the building is is not yeah. um, I do have the developers here, if you'd like for them to speak on behalf of that. But they're confident with the structure that they have set. structure that they have set up for this. No, that's fine. I just wanted to ask that. I just wanted to ask that for the record. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you. chair. Thank you, Alderman. Manaha have been worth it. Thank you, chair. Thank you do for this presentation. Um thank you Asia, and thank you. and thank you. Raphael for working together to and thank you. Raphael, for working together to negotiate where we are today. This this um, ordinance will allow This um, ordinance will allow this building to be developed. Um um to to a great potential. Uh right now it's underutilized and um it has a lot of deferred maintenance. It's It's um it's steps away from Argyle. steps away from Argyll and the red line. Um, the the the it steps away from the lakefront. Um, the most important thing about this project is that its development, it's a development without displacement. and we have, And we have the support of Uptown United. Um, and we have the support of Uptown United, um, who also believes that this kind of rest, believes that this kind of restructuring is is innovative and it, it will help keep the neighbor. and it it will help keep the neighborhood affordable. Um, not only that it will not only that, it will also help, um, allow for more naturally occurring, affordable housing, which we absolutely. absolutely need in the neighborhood. um, I I asked Um, I I asked several questions of of, uh, Rafael. Um, I I asked several questions of of uh, Rafael and cmhc as we were going along the con-vers. as we were going along in the conversations, um, to make sure that there is a relocation. sure that there is a relocation plan for the tenants who are there. Um, and and they, I've been assured that they're working. working with the receiver, um, towards that end. Um, I understand that they're working towards a plan for a for affirmative Fair housing marketing. Um, we are also, um, very happy to hear that. Um, the developer is open to working with service agencies such as Central Romero and service agencies such as Central Romero, and, um, Catholic Charities and, um, and, and uh, I just wanted to thank Charities and um, and and uh, I just wanted to thank again. Um, Rafael C mhcc. again, um, Rafael cmhc and do for, um, coming together. again, um, Rafael cmhc and do for, um, coming together to find innovative solutions to keep innovative solutions to keep our neighborhood affordable in uptown area. And I affordable in uptown area. And I asked for this committee's favorable consideration, favorable consideration. Thank you chair. Thank you Alderman. Hop. was Any other? any other questions from committee? Can I get a motion to move? move to pass? So moved by Alderman Rodriguez, recommending do pass. All those in favor. Signify by saying, do pass, all those in favor. Signify by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes, have it and the due pass recommendation will. due pass recommendation will be reported out at the next meeting. Thank you very much Katrina. meeting. Thank you very much, Katrina item number 10 from the Department of Housing. the Department of Housing, oops, Okay. Okay, um, the court reporter has asked for 5 minutes. Okay. Um the court reporter has asked for 5 minutes of uh break. So We're going to give her 5 minutes. 5 minutes are up. We're going to continue. Excuse. Excuse me. can the Can the council come to order, please? We're going to continue. We're going to continue with item number 10, from the Department of Housing. Department of Housing, which is an ordinance authorizing, the rest. the restructuring of a loan agreement with Leland Limited. the restructuring of a loan agreement with Leland limited partnership to forgive the principal amount. partnership to forgive the principal amount of the city loan and the release of the regulatory. loan and the release of the regulatory agreement for Leland Apartments located in. Apartments located in 1201 through 1213 West Apartments located in 1201, through 1213 West Leland Avenue in the 46 Ward. We're joined today by Michelle Pinar. financial planning analyst with the Department of Housing. Good afternoon. Thank you chair. Good afternoon. Thank you, chair. And members of the committee for the record, my name is committee for the record. My name is Michelle Pinar from the Department of Housing. Also joining the Department of Housing also. Joining me today is Asia, Bonner our assistant commissioner and do and Mark Angelini, um, the president of Mercy Housing Lakefront, Today, I'm presenting a transaction. Today, I'm presenting a transaction for the Leland Apartments, located at 12:07. Apartments located at 1207 West, Leland Avenue, Angela Clay is the alderwoman. Clay is the alderwoman and has provided a letter of support. To you. Boo my presentation. Oh, so sorry, he said Buzz, um, So sorry, he said Buzz um that wasn't for you. Um, for this project. Um, for this project, we are requesting forgiveness of the city of Chicago. city of Chicago, cdbg loan and the amount of 1.6. city of Chicago, cdbg loan, and the amount of 1.6 million dollars and the release of the city of Chicago regulatory. agreements. Both actions are necessary for the transfer. agreements. Both actions are necessary for the transfer of the property to a new owner and will be detailed in the following slides. Please note that there's no new following slides, please note that there's no new financing included in this um transaction request. Yep. Um, in 2023, the Heartland housing portfolio was placed. Um, in 2023, the Heartland housing portfolio was placed in receivership by the city of Chicago, the entire portfolio. receivership by the city of Chicago. The entire portfolio was reviewed internally along with other public funders Some background about the Leyland, the Leyland Prov. some background about the Leyland, the Leyland provides housing to vulnerable populations in 2004, the Leyland was recapitalized by Heartland housing, recapitalized by Heartland housing and received funding from the Chicago low-income housing trust fund. from the Chicago low-income housing. Trust fund Tif funds docdb and uh donation donation tax credits Herland housing. Herland housing owned and operated the building for the next 19 years. 19 years until the organization's 2023 demise Currently, 50 of the 137 units are under. currently 50 of the 137 units are under Master Lease with Trilogy which provides supportive. Trilogy, which provides Supportive Services to formerly, homeless residents under the homeless residents, under the pathways program. The first lean holder. Mercy Community. Capital filed, foreclosure on the building. foreclosure on the building um in January 2024 and was halted on January January in 2025. This is the same. This is the same list that Katrina presented. Um, the current owner is Mercy Community Capital, which is also the first lane holder. also the first lane, holder Mercy, Community Capital foreclosed on the property after Heartland Alliance defaulted on their loan. A property is. A property is currently managed by 5T management company and under receivership with CI. Mercy. Mercy Housing Lakefront, submitted a proposal to acquire the building. M Dill property acquisition. LLC is the single purpose entity created by Mercy Community. single purpose entity created by Mercy Community Capital to hold ownership interest in the land. hold ownership interest in the land for this part of the transaction. once this transaction is Once this transaction is complete Mercy, Housing will retain 5T as property. retain 5T as property manager. there are currently 137 units of which There are currently 137 units of which 123 are Studios and there's 14 1-bedroom units. there's 14 1-bedroom units, all rented at the 30% and 50%. Amis. There are 50% or 50 psh. There are 50% or 50 psh units on the top 2, floors funded by the state and run. Run by Trilogy. Can you say what? Psh is? I know permanent Supportive Housing. Um additionally, there are vast units. Um additionally there are vast units with an on-site VA office. So veterans safer. office so veteran safaris CA has had contract on 14. office so veteran safaris CA has had contract on 14 units with additional units approved in March of this year. Of the 137 units, 27. Of the 137 units. 27 are accessible and 110 are adaptable and the And the building is currently running at a 72% occupancy. rate. This is, um, The current. The current Amis for Chicago. Existing sources. So Leland Apartments is currently encumbered by multiple layers of financing and Regulatory restrictions including the first mortgage with Mercy Community Capital that is under for Community Capital, that is under foreclosure action as I'll explain in the next slide. I'll explain in the next slide to avert foreclosure, this mortgage will be paid off. mortgage will be paid off with proceeds from the new donation tax credits to be ISS. donation tax credits, to be issued by Ida. The remaining Financial. The remaining Financial encumbrances are under consideration for forgiveness. This includes the second mortgage from do which was C cdbg. mortgage from do which was C cdbg funds. the third mortgage with Ida in, which The third mortgage with Ida in which forgiveness is ALS has been approved. The fourth Mort been approved. The fourth mortgage with Chicago low income housing, trust fund, which is also in the process of being forgiven. and, and the sponsor and seller financing, which will be extinguished by Heartland both Doh and Ida have regulatory agreements tied to this property. That will be released Currently, the building is operating with a deficit of roughly. roughly 50,000 per month that the proceeds from the dtc's will cover. with Heartland housing on With Heartland housing on able to fulfill its debt obligations Mercy Community. obligations Mercy Community Capital, the first mortgage lender initiated for closure proceedings. lender initiated for closure, proceedings against the property in 2024. The recorded dated agreement between Mercy Community Capital, the city of Chicago Ida, and the show Chicago loan. income housing, trust fund a structured deed. In lieu of foreclosure process has been put into place to FAQ foreclosure process has been put into place to facilitate the transfer of ownership from Mercy Community Capital the transfer of ownership from Mercy, Community Capital to Mercy Housing Lakefront. We're here today. We're here today to get the approval to complete Step. 1 extinguishing. The extinguishing the debt and affordability restrictions, which is necessary. is necessary given the significant Capital needs of the building and then the building and then necessity to maximize the properties full market value. full market value in order to generate the maximum donation. Tax credit proceeds Once the encumbrances have been removed. once the encumbrances have been removed the deed, and loot transfer can occur from Heartland to Mercy capital, transfer can occur from Heartland to Mercy, Capital to the final owner Mercy Housing Lakefront. Ida will issue the donation tax credits, which will then enable the payoff of the senior debt to avert. The foreclosure Foreclosure recovery of receivership costs and cover ongoing operating shortfalls from there, the for From there, the for foreclosure case will be dismissed. Do. Do clifft and Ida are all forgiving loans mixing. extinguishing their affordability restrictions to allow for a clean title. a clean title that maximizes, the appraised value of the property. property used to derive the donation tax credits and generate the equity needed to pay off the senior loan receiver. receivership fees and cover other operating expenses. To the um, till 2026. This is the neighborhood map Leland's in the red. This is the neighborhood map Leland's in the red up in the Uptown neighborhood. Anticipated long-term financing the transaction. Anticipated long-term financing the transaction presented today. Enables financing for the immediate needs of the property dtc's are needed to pay off the loan with Mercy Community Capital, avert the foreclosure and pay off their crude receivership fees, long term, the crude receivership fees. Long term, the new owners will be seeking 1.5 million in Ida, seeking 1.5 million and Ida 9% litec apply it, then they apply it in March. apply it in March, 2025 1.5 million in City 9. apply it in March, 2025 1.5 million in City 9%, litec or equivalent cash, which is subject to the competitive funding rounds. Slated for June 2025, and 2.5 million in new soft phones from And 2.5 million in new soft phones from Ida. Long-term financing will cover the renovation and put the building unstable footing for long-term. building unstable footing for long-term viability. So, so public benefits, um, the public benefit. So, so public benefits. Um, the public benefits, we're going to transfer the publicly funded building to a new owner while preserving the affordability. Um, the operating costs incurring during receivership, costs incurring during receivership will be paid and the proceeds of the donation tax credits. proceeds of the donation tax credits and the donation. Tax credits will also ensure that the operating costs are covered until additional financing is secured. our timeline for this project is um, hope our timeline for this project is um hopefully we pass that a council tomorrow and then uh September closing and, and the requested actions again, were requesting forgiveness of the city of Chicago cdbg loan, and then the release of the city of Chicago regulatory agreements. That's it, any questions? That's it. Any questions? When is the qap going to be released? Um, it's slated for um, June 2025 July. Related to be released. Related to be released really soon, possibly this week. If not next. Okay, and then you're you're taking applications. Okay, and then you're you're taking applications, also in June. yes, that's Yes, that's when the funding round will open. Okay, we're in June. Yes, the funding round is expected to open this. Yes, the funding round is expected to open this week or sometime next week and the application period will remain open through. open through to July. Is the qap. Is the qap been. I mean it's, can you read it? Is the qap been. I mean it's can you read it? I mean, is it online? It's late it to be released this week. online? It's late it to be released this week or next week. Any questions on this 1? Alderman clay. thank you so much Madam chairwoman um, Thank you so much, Madam chairwoman. Um, I just first want to say thank you for giving us. say thank you for giving us this opportunity to come before this project. Um was my first Real Testament. this project. Um was my first Real Testament of being in Alder person a week after I was sworn in. We got a emergency call in the middle of the night saying that the Leyland had no water. No water. That. that took us through a Wormhole, as you can say, um, where we found Wormhole, as you can say um where we found out that this building was falling in disrepair. building was falling in disrepair, for quite a long time. Um, Not only was it falling, um, Not only was it falling in disrepair the population that lives in this building is basically the heart. that lives in this building is basically the heart and lifeblood of our entire Community. Um, former veterans, former neighbors who have experienced home, former neighbors who have experienced homelessness, which our ward has had a growing issue with for decades um, and it put a lot of our neighbors in fear and stress and I want to just say a huge thank you because this is what what intergovernmental partnership really look like. what intergovernmental partnership really look like myself along with Senator, Mike Simmons and state represent. Along with Senator Mike Simmons and state representative Han win. Um, we're very active in activating all of our respective, departments to respective departments to say hey you all you have to put your arms and your eyes on this building. Um, and through that. that we have had an amazing opportunity to that, we have had an amazing opportunity to partner 1 of our key issues. You all is we are losing deeply affordable, housing. housing in the 46 Ward. We used to have sro's that were um, accessible and now they are doing link, right. So to have a building have a building that not only provides housing but also provides Supportive Services on site for folks who have mental issues or substance abuse. issues or substance abuse issues is a huge huge resource. issues or substance abuse issues is a huge huge resource in my neck of the woods. Um as we were working through, what does it? Look like the. Look like the building started to move into foreclosure. which set an immense amount of alarms. which set an immense amount of alarms off for a lot of folks, even neighbors started to move out of the building. because of the instability of what will the future be? This project allows us to This project allows us to not only put in some, Put in some real deep work to building it and making it. Put in some real deep work to building it and making it a great building for neighbors. But it also great building for neighbors, but it also deeply supports neighbors, who need it? The most these neighbors. Who need it? The most these are neighbors who are on fixed incomes or no income. are on fixed incomes or no income, right? And they need to make sure that they are living. make sure that they are living in great quality housing, that is going to be in a community that serves and protects them as well. So, I just them as well. So I just want to say a huge, thank you, um, to the Department of Housing to Ida to Trilogy for to the Department of Housing, to Ida to Trilogy, for stepping up to make this work, because our biggest, Hurdle was, how do we keep these deeply affordable? This building is a beautiful gold. building is a beautiful gold mine in the heart of my ward. That could easily be that could easily be flipped and turned into market rate units. But the neighbors who've been living here, some for quite a long. quite a long time, have put into the culture and the community of my ward, and I wanted to make sure that they were protected. So, were protected. So I just want to say thank you all for hearing this and I will respectfully asking you for your favor. Uh, thank you Alderman. Clay, we did get a question. Uh, thank you Alderman, clay. We did get a question from Vice chair Conway. On the community, Chicago. On the community Chicago. Yeah, so the Like the 700,000 there. like the 700,000 there in the Slide tip. Is that getting, is that part of the slide tip. Is that getting? Is that part of the 1.6? Or, or like, how does? Or or like how does that differ from the 1.6? Because clearly that's up above that. um, so the Chicago, the clifft ark loan Cliff has to forgive the loan themselves and they're in the process of doing that. doing that, okay? And so, and that doesn't require us to do anything. anything additional to get that they have to go through their board and everything. their board and everything like that. Similar process. Okay, wonderful. That's all I have. Thank you. Okay, wonderful. That's all I have. Thank you man for almond Mitchell. You have original outstanding balance, is that the You have original outstanding balance is that the original balance or what's left of the original balance? Um, stumped Me original. Stumped Me, original outstanding balance, that that's what their loan. their loan was originally through, Mercy Community Capital. and then, the payoff is 1.8 and then the payoff is 1.813, that's its, that's their first mortgage. mortgage. Okay? So no, none of the none of the mortgage, okay? So no, none of the none of the principal amount. Have been paid any payments made. No. Alderman. Reilly Thank you, madam. Thank you, madam chair. Since we have a you know a series of properties. of properties before us today. That are. that are failing for various reasons and I That are failing for various reasons and I understand Heartland has its own issues. Who's responsible for? Ensuring that the stewards of these. Ensuring that the stewards of these properties are maintaining them. maintaining them year in and year out. I'll turn that over to Asia. Good afternoon, everyone. Good afternoon everyone for the record. I'll State my name. Asia boner assistant commissioner Asia boner assistant Commissioner of our asset management division at the Chicago Department of Housing. division at the Chicago Department of Housing and it is a collective effort. collective effort to ensure that the stewards of these properties that receive public funds from a variety of public agencies. Um, public agencies, um, remain good stewards. And that these uh, buildings remain in strong financial position. uh, buildings remain in strong, financial positions and operating operational footing. operating operational footing, um, specifically for the city's part. city's part, within the Chicago Department of Housing, um, ex roughly about a year ago. ex roughly about a year ago, do stood up the asset management division. management division to um, have a specific management division to, um, have a specific lens on the Financial Health. Financial Health of uh properties that have received City. Financial Health of, uh, properties that have received City financing. Um, so in brief to answer your question, uh, that is a function that falls within the asset management division, which To oversee. And prior. and prior to a year ago, who was responsible, Prior to a year ago, those responsibilities. prior to a year ago, those responsibilities were dispersed um within the department of um within the Department of Housing, we did have an asset management function. It just wasn't formalized as a division. Um, and in addition to, you know, do is responsibility to the extent that other public funders are a part of the capital. a part of the capital stack, they share in that responsibility as well. Okay, so regardless of the iteration, it's always been the responsibility of the Department of Housing There is some ownership. There is some ownership within the Department of Housing, right? So, so that's my point. right? So so that's my point, I guess, you know, why is it taking a building? taking a building to lose water access? Um, to trigger the alarm bells that we need to um, to trigger the alarm bells that we need to go and stabilize that property um, hearing stabilize that property. Um, hearing it from my colleague, all the woman clay, it doesn't seem like that's the way it's supposed to work. Um, and so what assurances can the city? Um, and so what? Assurances can the city give to us. That the bailout train. That the bailout train will not continue to roll on. Um, you know, I'm glad to hear that. We have a, a new, you know, division. Specifically focused on. Specifically focused on Asset Management. Um, but given the fact it's always been a responsibility of the Departments, What confidence do we have that? By making these moves, we're not going to continue to have to make these moves. over and over and over again. These are beautiful. over and over and over again. These are beautiful assets. And the expectation is when the city provides sub. And the expectation is when the city provides subsidies. That, that money. Um, That that money, um, is used to in part maintain the asset. for the people who live there. And yet, we have this. And yet, we have this now. Sad story over and over again. And yet, we have this now, sad story over and over again of properties that are supposed to provide housing for folks who can least afford it. Being neglected. Okay. Um, as Okay. Um Asia, I'm going to ask you first of all Let's uh 1 1 company Heartland Alliance who was uh, their portfolio, their entire portfolio. their entire portfolio, um, was in distress but Asia. their entire portfolio, um was in distress, but Asia would like for you to talk you. And I talked a little bit about like for you to talk you and I talked a little bit about the specific things that you're doing. the specific things that you're doing in the department. Would you take a few minutes and share? Would you take a few minutes and share and talk about what you're doing, also? you're doing? Also the relationship between organizations like uh cic and and others. Um absolutely I appreciate that and that and uh So, thank you. Uh, chairwoman So thank you. Uh chairwoman Dow um, to address your question head on question head on, uh, Alderman rally, as you said it really, really starts with added capacity. So the fact that we do have concentrated resources in the form, have concentrated resources in the form of a dedicated division, um, sort of sets the foundation for more focused attention, you know, dedicated Personnel, um, attention, you know, dedicated Personnel. Um, but beyond that it allows us to that, it allows us to um make sure that we Institute uh that it allows us to um make sure that we Institute uh more internal controls, and checks and balances with. internal controls and checks and balances with a review process of again the Financial Health of these properties. And and broader portfolio portfolio owners. So uh developers who have multiple properties in the city, um, being able to look at the full breadth of their ownership in the city, and, and properties that have financing from and properties that have financing from us, um, to look for indicators. indicators that signal an asset is in trouble. indicators that signal an asset is in trouble and in building, that Foundation along with That Foundation, along with building Partnerships as chairwoman mentioned. chairwoman mentioned um, with some of our, our colleagues chairwoman mentioned um, with some of our our colleagues also invested in preserving affordability. Long-term namely um, uh, um uh cic is a is a known partner in an important conven convener in this process as well as the other public fun. in this process as well as the other public funders, um, having a platform funders, um, having a platform to share information and And, um, as I said identify, you know, troubling indicators, and then from there, troubleshoot to prevent future outcomes like a Heartland. future outcomes like a Heartland, um, but I think it is important to emphasize as well. important to emphasize as well, that this was a single owner operator that held a large number of propert. owner operator that held a large number of properties and had a business model that was had a business model, that was really altruistic. Um, know, had the thought of providing deeply affordable housing for people who needed the most, but that business model is very challenging. model is very challenging because they're living, On the margins. Um, you know, with rents at 30% Ami. That's really not enough to sustain the kind of buildings that they held older and complex with difficult. they held older and complex with difficult systems. And so it's very easy to to fall short over time. Um, not to excuse it there, but there are ways now with our division in place and our Partnerships in place to prevent um operators that similarly uh focus on um, operators that similarly uh, focus on deep affordability from having a similar fate. okay, uh, and just again, I'm not looking to extend this Madam chair but Heartland raises. Some great concerns here. Heartland raises, some great concerns here. Absolutely. And I I have to imagine that they're not the only provider managing a portfolio. Um, or or their other entities that have. Um, or or their other entities that have multiple properties in their portfolios. Yes and not just operators who have multiple City Finance uh, propert operators, who have multiple City Finance, uh, properties in their portfolio but operators who in their portfolio. But operators who have deeply affordable? Properties. Those are ones that we want to, you know, make sure we um, are you know, closely monitoring Are, you know, closely monitoring and coming up with strategies to provide support. strategies to provide support, it's not always in the form of additional Financial res. of additional Financial Resources but sometimes it's actually adding capacity um, in this industry. actually adding capacity. Um, in this industry affordable housing industry, you're you know, responding from for you're looking at need to need day-to-day. Just trying to keep things afloat. Um oftentimes it's hard to take a step. step back and take an asset management approach and that's something that the city along with our other public Lending, lending, partners are looking to encourage with our portfolio. portfolio holders. You have deep affordability, um, in their portfolio. Is to build Asset Management skill. Is to build asset management skills, not just property management and responding. management and responding, you know, in isolated, you know, issues but taking a broader approach and so that's issues, but taking a broader approach. And so that's 1 of the things that we are absolutely encouraging and promoting to prevent um, another situation. to prevent um another situation like this. Okay? And I'm, I'm glad to hear that we're doing. I'm glad to hear that we're doing that now. Um, 1 could argue, we should have been doing that. argue, we should have been doing that for some time. I don't disagree. Um, don't disagree. Um yes correct. Um and that's very helpful to know my final question is Is Heartland an outlier here or are? They kind of a are they would they be the canary in the coal? Mine are there? other dominoes yet to fall? Or is this something that's unique to Heartland? Um, or is it the model generally? I think what we're seeing in the affordable. I think what we're seeing in the affordable housing industry at large is, um, concern, uh, postco. Um, that was a really destabilizing event for many affordable housing, owner operators. owner, operators. The things that we hear, um, from our partners and and, um, fellow advocates in this space, partners and and, um, fellow advocates in this space is that, um, postco, that, um, postco. We saw the rise and, and operating cost. that, um, postco. We saw the rise and, and operating costs, but not, you know, um, but not, you know. Um, an equivalent rise in income, a lot of tenants are really. of tenants are really challenged with issues around. of tenants are really challenged with issues around income and employment. Um, that adds additional Pressure and stress on on these types of properties. Um, so it's something that we are concerned about, um, it's something that we are concerned about. Um, and again, it's going to take, uh, a collaborative effort across our partners. partners to make sure, um, that we Shore up these properties. And, and prevent, you know, properties and, and prevent, you know another outcome like this, no, 1, want to see another this, no, 1. Want to see another Heartland, this is taken a lot of time. A lot of resources, a lot of hand. hand ringing as all the women clay and it says to the times we've spent, you know, in her Ward. We don't, we can't go through this again. Okay, all right. Thank you. Madam chair. Thank you. Okay, all right. Thank you, madam chair, thank you. Um, Alderman Ramirez. Alderman Ramirez makes a recommendation of due pass on this matter. Um, item number 10, uh, can I this matter. Um, item number 10, uh, can I get a all in favor of the motion signify by saying, I, I opposed, in the opinion, opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the do pass recommendation, recommendation will be reported out at the next meeting. Um, Alderman Mosley has requested a rule 59 Um, he's here. Remotely can Um, he's here remotely can I have a motion to allow him to participate? So moved by Alderman, Rodriguez all those in. favor. Signify by saying, I opposed favor. Signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of the chairs, the I have it. chairs, the I have it and uh, Alderman Mosley. You've joined us. Moving on to item number 11 from the Department of Housing, a substitute or ordinance concerning the execution of a Redevelopment. Ordinance concerning the execution of a Redevelopment agreement and the issuance of financial assistance. agreement and the issuance of financial assistance, tollare Partners a North JV LP for the lair project located at 48 09. 09 West 44th, Street and 4. 09 West 44th Street and 44442 South Cicero Avenue in 09 West, 44th Street and 44442 South Cicero Avenue in the 22nd Ward. There is. There is a substitute ordinance. Uh, so can I get a motion? There is a substitute ordinance. Uh, so can I get a motion to accept the substitute for so moved by? to accept the substitute for so? Moved by Alderman, Ervin, all those in favor. Signify, all those in favor. Signify by saying I, I opposed In the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, and the substitute. substitute is before us good afternoon. Good afternoon. Hi Cher. Have the presentation by Deana Wayne. Thank you. I'm here today to discuss funding for the L. I'm here today to discuss funding for the Lair Court, North Apartments located at 4809 44th, Street and 4. Apartments located at 4809 44th Street and 4442, South Cicero. And Alderman Rodriguez's, Ward and it's in. and Alderman, Rodriguez's, Ward, and it's in the Cicero Stevenson Tiff, you may recall that it was December of last year. We came here to Port funds from 2 EXP. year. We came here to Port funds from 2 exp, so that we would have the 5.5 million dollars that were requesting today to give to this. today to give to this project. In addition to, uh, money out of of multifamily loan funds uh of 9. 9.5 million. the developer team is, The developer team is a joint venture between habitat and Cobra partners. Cobra Partners Solomon. Cordwell bends are the arch. Cobra Partners Solomon. Cordwell bends are The Architects of record George. Solid construction is the GC. The principal. The principle under his Bank of America, uh, and habitat. will manage this property themselves. In terms of an overview, this is the in terms of an overview, this is the Redevelopment, the very first phase of the lair courts project. Uh, the this project. This project is what we call a twin deal. It's going to actually be in 2 buildings. actually be in 2 buildings primarily the north building and we'll see a picture of that in a moment. we'll see a picture of that in a moment and in the south building as well. building as well, the 138 units will again be spread over those. those 2 buildings. 110 in the north building. those 2 buildings. 110 in the north building, 28 in the south building as you can see south building. As you can see it's a mix of units between 15% Ami and 80% Ami along with 14 market rate buildings. The total project cost 86. The total project cost 86 million about we hope to close. They hope to close uh, the end of October. Um, They hope to close. Uh the end of October um of this year with completion, then in Mar year with completion, then in March, at the end of March 2027, I hear, you can see the rental. I hear you can see the rental unit, mix a total of 11 units. Um, At 30% am. At 30%, Ami made up of studios and 1 bedroom. At 30%, Ami made up of studios and 1 bedrooms. 4 bedrooms at 50. 4 bedrooms at 50 41 bedrooms at 50% Ami. 4 bedrooms at 50 41 bedrooms at 50% Ami, a total of 101. Uh, units at 60%. Ami and that's made up of a mix of Studios 1. twos and 3 bedrooms, um, 8 units at 80%. 8 units at 80% Ami 1's twos and 3 bedrooms. And again the 14 8 units at 80% Ami 1's twos and 3 bedrooms and again the 14 market rate which at this time are expected to be 14 market rate which at this time are expected to be Studios and 1 bedrooms. In terms of the project sources. in terms of the project sources, there's a A permanent loan from. a permanent loan from A Bank Cedar Rapids in Iowa. Cha is giving 24.5 million in capital. Cha is giving 24.5 million in capital funds. Again, the city's 5.5 million in Tiff and 9.5 million in mult. city's 5.5 million in Tiff and 9.5 million in multi-family funds. Uh, the the litech funding is expected to be 33.7. million dollars. Those low-income housing tax credits, million dollars. Those low-income housing tax, credits are expected to be generated by about 47 million in tax exempt, bonds. 47 million in tax exempt, bonds, that are going to be issued by Ida. Donation, tax credit Equity a deferred de. Donation, tax credit Equity a deferred developer fee a d. O. O Grant and a hundred dollars in general partner Equity. Um, complete the funding Uh, here you can see outlined in yellow. uh, here you can see outlined in yellow, the entire Lair project, uh, the nns represent the North and South buildings. uh, again here, those North and South buildings are referred to as South as site a with pictures of how it looks right now. again, this is, um, Again this is um spelled out all the buildings. I think it goes through phase f as in Frank if I remember correctly. goes through phase f as in Frank if I remember correctly uh all the buildings that are are planned for the site. A mix of commercial and residential and again cite a there. You see the north building and the south building Picture of the north building. South building similar in scale. Again, this project will Uh, create cha replacement units other. Uh, create cha replacement units other affordable units. Its Environmental featur Its environmental features include Not only meeting. not only meeting the city's sustainability requirements, but doing doing so by reducing light pollution and incorporating Heat. doing so by reducing light pollution and incorporating heat island reduction through highly reflective. island reduction through highly reflective Roofing membranes and site Paving, um, reduc membranes and site Paving um reducing indoor water usage by 40%. by 40% have a building automation system with 40%. Having a building automation system, with efficient, cooling equipment, air economizers damper. cooling equipment, air economizers damper, controls leak, prevention, methods measures for fans and duct worth duct worth. duct worth Duckworth duct work and a vrf system. Duckworth duct work and a vrf system and diverting waste by 80%, uh, 80%. Uh, there's going to be a, a daycare center in the on the first floor and they expect that that will create 30 to 40 full-time jobs and then 40 full-time jobs, and then 250 um, temporary Construction. jobs. so that we are expecting hoping So that we are expecting hoping for city council approval in June. Again closing at the in June again closing at the end of October, starting construction right away. construction, right away and having the developer finish the project by the end of March in 2027, and so, again, the request is and so again, the request is 5.5 million in Tiff and And so again, the request is 5.5 million in Tiff and 9.5 and multi-family loan funding. Um, their representatives from the developer team. um, their representatives from the developer team and also cha to answer any questions you may cha to answer any questions. You may have thank you. Thank you. Dina. Do you have any questions for members of the committee? Seeing none, Alder. Seeing none Alderman Rodriguez. Yes, thank you very much. Madam chair. This is an excellent project that I'm so proud to be. So, to be associated with. Um, we're talking about this. to be associated with. Um, we're talking about this phase being 10 183 families. being 10 183 families coming in to the community. Uh, that's on the rise. Really in the southwest side of Chicago, 1 of the most diverse parts of our city and a lot of ways. Um, and this project uh, has a diverse amount of funding. Um, I believe the city part. funding. Um I believe the city part will only be a uh, a significant yet. Uh uh. Only a part of this. significant yet uh uh, only a part of this great effort and I I think about this as a best practice. Um, we have built built a new grammar school in this area. We're in the ground with new water mains in this area. new water mains in this area infrastructure improvements are happening as we speak. And I'm so so excited about um, what's next in this development and I asked my colleagues for the colleagues for the favorable consideration. Thank you very much, Madam chair. chair. Thank you Alderman, Rodriguez. Seeing no other questions. Can I get a motion to accept? Uh, Oh Alderman, viegas. Yes, thank you. Oh, Alderman. Viegas, yes, thank you. Madam chair, no question. Um, you've called a motion to vote? I'd like to. question. Um, you've called a motion to vote. I'd like to invoke rule 14 under an abundance of caution. I have a 17 year old son. Who's doing a paid intern. year old son. Who's doing a paid intern summer, internship there. Uh, and so it there. Uh, and so I want to disclose that, okay? okay, well, acknowledged that and the uh, Minutes. And invite. Um, Alderman, kuden recommends, do pass. Alderman, kuden recommends, do pass all those in favor of this motion signify by saying I I opposed in the opinion of the of the chair, the eyes have it and the due pass recommend the chair, the eyes have it and the do pass recommendation will report it out at the next City council meeting Dena. Thank you. City council meeting Dena. Thank you so much for your presentation. Thank you. Um, item. presentation. Thank you. Um, item number 12, uh, Is. Is a city council. Item. A substitute ordinance introduced by Alderman Bennett Lawson of the 44th Ward. Lawson of the 44th Ward, to enter into an agreement with the Chicago, Cub the Chicago Cubs baseball club, LLC for the security enhancement project at 108. enhancement project at 1088 West Waveland Avenue in the 44th. 44th Ward. There is a substitute ordinance, which 44th Ward. There is a substitute ordinance which has been prepared and sent electronically to everyone. Um, Alderman Quezada makes a motion to accept the Substitute all. Substitute all those in favor. Signify by saying I I opposed in the opinion of the chair of the eyes, have it and in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and the substitute ordinance is before us and will be explained. substitute ordinance is before us and will be explained to us by uh, James MacDonald. to us by uh, James MacDonald, the managing deputy Mr. MacDonald get up. Mr. MacDonald get up here. The man. The managing Deputy Corporation Council with the Department of Law, and we also have with us commissioner. of Law and we also have with us commissioner. Tom Carney, from the Department of Transportation Mr. MacDonald. thank you, chairman sorry for Thank you, chairman, sorry for the delay in getting me up here to the front. For the record again. My name is Jim. My name is Jim McDonald, I'm the managing Deputy Corporation. Corporation Council and the Law Department the substitute. Corporation Council and the Law Department. The Substitute ordinance before you authorizes. Several. ordinance before you authorizes several transactions. There is. There is a number of real estate transactions between there is a number of real estate transactions between the city and the Chicago Cubs team. to um, resolve some to, um, resolve some ongoing disputes about To um, resolve some ongoing disputes about ex joining land. Uh, this uh, this ordinance will authorize all those disputes in a way that satisfactory to the city and as well to the team. It is. It is also going to authorize the city entering into agreements. city entering into agreements for a security Improvement project. project around greatly feared. involving the construction of ballards that Involving the construction of ballards that will be some in the public way. Some in other property surrounding the field. Uh, and the security project. uh, and the security project is going to be funded by a combination of funds that represents combination contributions from the team. from the city, and From the city and directly or indirectly from the state. so, All these would be. Documented and agreements. Documented and agreements, that will be authorized under this Orden. this ordinance. And that is the purpose of the ordinance before. and that is the purpose of the ordinance before you Commiss. Commissioner Kearney. Can you speak a little bit about the, uh, What your role is in? What your role is in this, in this. Um, yes. uh, Tom Carney, uh, commissioner sedat, um, Uh, Tom Carney, uh, commissioner sedat. Um, so it's it's really uh, 2-fold 1. really uh, 2-fold 1, um, through our um, Various. Various relationships with with uh, the state through the Illinois Department. Illinois Department of Transportation. Um, the, the funding from um, the state will The, the funding from um the state will come from IAT to flow into sedat. Um, so that that's 1 factor and then the other factor is us working. Um, with the other factor is us working, um, with the team, um, in terms of, uh, of uh, our engineering um, knowledge regarding uh our engineering um knowledge regarding ballards and security enhancements and then we will work closely with them to uh facilitate you know? them to uh facilitate you know, a quick Turnaround at the office of underground. turnaround at the office of underground coordination and then, as well with the permitting process. then, as well with the permitting process to, uh, facilitate so they can facilitate the work. So they can facilitate the work through their contractor to uh, install these over the course of uh install these over the course of uh 2 off seasons. And uh, M Mr. MacDonald could you? And uh, M Mr. MacDonald, could you explain to the members of the committee? of the committee this piece of land or maybe Alt of the committee? This piece of land or maybe Altman Lawson you would want to explain what the situation is with the piece of land and what it is? Sure. Um thank you uh, Madam chair. Sure. Um, thank you uh, Madam chair. There's actually 2 pieces of land here. Um, but I'll I'll of land here. Um but I'll I'll start with the 1, that's in dispute. Um, for a that's in dispute. Um, for a long time, we've had an issue, uh, immediately north of the ball. uh, immediately north of the ballpark between Clifton and Seminary Avenues. Um, where the railroad vacated, uh, previous land that had owned. Um, the title has not been clean, um, it resulted in, what is a very tight 10 foot Ally um the disputed property. Ally, um, the disputed property and then uh, Seminary Avenue which has parking on both sides and which has parking on both sides in a landscape buffer. Um, what we're doing here is putting in what would be a 14 foot dedicated? foot, dedicated Ally for my residents on Clifton which is just loaded on the 1. side Cubs are shifting their Side Cubs are shifting their what VIP player parking lot is what this is. what this is slightly uh to accommodate both the all what this is slightly uh, to accommodate both the alley but we're maintaining parking and the landscape bar. we're maintaining parking and the landscape barrier on the Seminary side. Um, the other piece that we're working with here is along Addison, here is along Addison where the Addison sidewalks, immediately south of the ballpark. The north side of Addison will be widened by 4 feet. In addition to adding the ballards that are there um that's the tightest point of the stadium. of the stadium, uh, where it's just it's basically 6 feet from the curb and where all of our buses load right now. So those are the 2 pieces of property uh, that are being touched by. touched by this. Thank you. Um, any questions from members of the committee. Move. move to pass by Alderman Moore, all those in favor of the motion signify by saying I I oppose motion. Signify by saying I I oppose and the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it and the due pass recommend. chair of the eyes have it. And the due pass, recommendation will report it out as the June city council meeting item number 13 is What? Oh, we have Cuban in here, huh? Um, item number 13 is a proposed order. Item. Number 13 is a proposed order. Authorizing. The payment of various small claims against the city of Chicago. It was a direct introduction. Chicago. It was a direct introduction, and the list of payments approved was sent electronically. payments approved was sent electronically to everyone. If there are no objections, these will be placed in the Omnibus. Item. Number 14. Item, number 14 is a proposed order. Denying the payment. Item number 14 is a proposed order. Denying the payment of various small claims against the city of Chicago. also a direct introduction and that Also a direct introduction and that list of payments was sent electronically to everyone. If there are no objections, these will be placed on the OM. objections, these will be placed on the Omnibus. Item. Number 15. Are 2 proposed orders author. Are 2 proposed orders authorizing. The charitable solicitation on the public. solicitation on the public way. Permits also a direct introduction from worldwide. Wildlife found introduction from worldwide. Wildlife Foundation for Citywide effort, July 1st. Citywide effort, July 1st 2025 to December 31st. Citywide effort, July 1st 2025, to December, 31st, 2025 and planned. and Planned Parenthood Federation. Of America, for Citywide. of America for Citywide effort, July 1 2025 to of America for Citywide effort, July 1, 2025 to December, 31st 2025, if there are no OB 31st 2025, if there are no objections, the permits are approved. This will be placed on file with the clerk and there being no. there being no further business before the committee. Can I get a motion to adjourn? So, moved by Alderman, Lee all those in favor, signify by All those in favor. Signify by saying I I oppose the eyes have it. The meetings adjourned, thank you. The. The chair of budget will tell us. When The chair of budget will tell us when he's you. Are you going now? He's going to. Gabble in right now.