minutes. Uh Alderman's Pat is here um 1 minute late but uh, Alderman Spas is here. He is, uh, the blue suit with the checkered tie. Oh, mango with the glasses. Got left out of it. Bianca is here. Hold on. I'll grab Bianca. The other day about all the black leadership. Did leave out the budget and finance the record. Got to see here. Sauna she's looking for a seat. Who do we have speaking today? We got George a woman named TJ Hughes well. She's here. I saw her. And uh Christopher Anderson Christopher Anderson from United Airlines. G. Good morning, everybody. time is 11:08 a.m. the meeting of the committee on Aviation is called to order. We will now have a roll call to establish a quorum. Vice chairman Curtis. Alderman Hopkins. Alderman. Dow. Alderman Robinson. Alderman Harris. Alderman. Lee. Alderman Quinn. Alderman Lopez. Alderman Coleman. Alderman Rodriguez. Alderman tabaris. Alderman Bernett. Alderman. Alderman, Cardona. Alderman waguespack president. Alderman mitts. Alderman pasado. Battle. Alderman. Nent. Alderman, OSHA is here. There are 13 members present, including myself, ladies and gentlemen. We have a quorum Alderman of palitan has request for remote access for today's committee on Aviation meeting. Having a quorum already present, can I get a motion recommend approval of this rule? 59 Alderman, Rodriguez, so moves all in favor. Opposed. Pinion of the chair of the eyes, have it. Alderman, Hopkins is also here. Led him to the role. At this time, we will have public comment out of respect. For everybody's time. Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. We have 3 people who have signed up for public speaking. Our first speaker, Is Mr. George Blakemore? Mr. Blakemore yes, sir. Reading this very fundamental. I am looking at International Airport at O'Hare and this way these concessions, These confessions. Is racism. The money. So, I advocate for my people to get concessions. The money out to that airport. Both of these Airport. Our people are not getting these concessions. and the reason they are not because of their ultimate. Selling them out. And I always, when I speak. I, I always try to tell the truth. These Hispanic almond advocate for their people. The Asian, the white ones, but the black ones don't. They sell out. Why? Now, the system is broken. Each 1 of these altars have employees at their exposure. I'm trying to educate you. That's no good. These people work and they check says, the city of Chicago. so, the whole structure of this system is broken. They're given the ultimate too much power, and the ultimate abuse this power. And what Mr. Blakemore they all are Democrats. Best not healthy. A fastest system, all communist? Is something wrong here. And what do they do? Mr. Blakemore. Oh, don't be a bugger old man. Now, they, they, they kiss each other in in proper places. Sell out. All of them. They don't use the n-word. Oh yes, they do 1 of these often, use that in Word. What do you know down south of some of my white brothers and sisters use this word, but up north my white brothers. Don't use this word but they treat you like 1. They treat you like 1. That's why it's very important for me to come to these meetings. And too much power. That these alt 1 have so many of them have been indicted. 1 Angel East and was indicted and he's not doing no a committed a crime and he's doing no time. What kind of government is this? Come back here, Trump and clean up this democratic Thank you, Mr. Blakemore Our next speaker will be Mr. Christopher Anderson. Good morning, chairman and members of the committee. My name is Christopher J Anderson. I am the director of government Affairs for United Airlines Chicago's home town Airline. It's a pleasure to join you today. It was a short walk from our worldwide headquarters at Willis Tower. Also known as Sears Tower to people of a certain age on behalf of our management team. At the, nearly 18,000 individuals, we employ in Chicago land area. I'm here to enthusiastically support the nomination of Michael McMurray, as the next Commissioner of Chicago Department of Aviation. A couple of weeks ago United Airlines president Brett Hart issued the following statement. As Chicago's Hometown Airline our entire team at United is thrilled to welcome Mike McMurray and we look forward to working closely with him and we continue as we continue to build on our record growth here at O'Hare as we prepare to break ground on the new terminal development program at O'Hare, a once in a generation investment. Leadership will be essential as we work. Collectively to deliver a modernized airport for the millions of Chicagoans and The Travelers who visit this world-class City close quote. The challenges of the CDA are great, but we at United Airlines believe the right person for the right time was chosen and we look forward to working with him and partnering with him to move. O'Hare forward dare I say, what's good for O'Hare is good for Chicago. We at United Airlines want the very best for O'Hare in Chicago. Not only for now but for years to come. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Our third and final speaker will be Miss Teresa Hughes. Good morning, chairman, OSHA and committee members. I am Teresa Hughes and I am speaking today to express my disappointment regarding the recent appointment of Tracy paying Henry. Known in our community as sleepy Tracy, as acting commissioner by bypassing the first, Deputy Dwayne Hayden. This decision, not only disrespects but also publicly undermines his position. I've been informed that Michael McMurray made this call even before becoming officially appointed. Which is already creating a toxic work environment. I have worked in the city of Chicago for over 30 years and this is just outlandish, Tracy Payne, Henry's conduct, especially her documented Behavior, which I sent everybody on that panel, a copy of the, my Facebook post where she was sleeping in the Committee hearing. Raises concerns serious, concerns about professionalism, accountability, and Leadership. This is not only an embarrassment but a misuse of taxpayer and Airline resources, I will be attending every cam Aviation committee meeting until Tracy Payne. Henry is removed from this role because she is undeserving as a former Chicago Department Aviation employee. I have further concerns regarding the incoming. Commissioner, Michael McMurray. The lack of recent airport experience, Mr. McMurray has never ran in airport and has not worked in an airport. In over 20 years. Today's Aviation environment is far more complex and demanding. How could someone so far removed from the industry's re uh current reality effectively lead? That's something for you guys to think about. Wasn't the goal to bring in Forward Thinking qualified leadership with relevant up-to-date experience. If no 1 with current Aviation experience is being assigned to help guide him. Through this transition, it will be a disaster. The second point is compensation Mr. Mcmurray's salary must not exceed that of Jamie Reed because she had far more Aviation experience a stronger Community relationship and her only downfall was surrounding herself with the wrong people such as Miss Tracy sleepy. Tracy, the thief Who Sat by the door, which you already know who that is and a Time Trader. And this is all mentioned in the inspector General's report. So we'd like for you to make sure that you do your due diligence in investigating Mr. Mcmurray's, um, current affiliation, so that there's no conflict of interest, put on the city and the mayor of Chicago. That concludes our public speaking. I'd like to recognize Vice chairman Curtis in attendance and Alderman Robinson. Moving on item. Number 1 is the approval of the September 10th, 2024, rule, 45 report for the committee on. Aviation, if there are no questions. Can I get a motion recommend approval of this report? Alderman, Ervin, so moves all in favor. Opposed. And the opinion of the chair of the eyes, have it. Item. Number 2. Is the appointment? 202500000017148. The approval, the appointment of Michael J. McMurray to commissioner of the Chicago Department of Aviation. ladies and gentlemen before us today, Is Mike, McMurray, he is here to answer any questions and to make a brief statement uh before uh he begins, I'd like to recognize those with him. Um, managing Deputy Commissioner Amber Ritter First Deputy Commissioner Dwayne Hayden. Deputy Commissioner. Bernie Williams. and acting commissioner Tracy Payne. A team that I've enjoyed working with appreciate, all your strong leadership, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. McMurray Thank you. Thank you Mr. Chairman Chairman OSHA, Vice chairman Curtis, and his team members this committee on Aviation. Thank you for this opportunity to prepare appear before you today and for, considering my nomination to serve as commissioner of Chicago's Department of Aviation. First and foremost, I want to thank Mayor Johnson for entrusting me with the stewardship of O'Hare and Midway airports. I'm deeply grateful for this confidence and that this nomination, reflects. And I stand before this body today, humbly asking for your support at Chicago's next Aviation commissioner I bring more than 25 years of experience in transportation infrastructure and public service across both public and private sectors. I previously served as Deputy Commissioner at the department of Aviation and most recently as president of transportation and infrastructure at wieden company, where I've LED large-scale Capital programs with the same complexity and ambition as those underway at our current airports. Early in my career. As an attorney, I served in the Cook County, State's Attorney's office and the Social Security Administration, these roles shaped my commitment to equity, accountability, and good government. I know how the City Works and I'm ready to leave with Focus, urgency collaboration that this role demands. I come into this role with a deep and abiding. Respect for the place, our airports hold in the life of the city. their engines of economic growth gateways to the world and centers of opportunity, connecting Chicago and to jobs, entrepreneurs to customers and our businesses to Global markets. They serve as V vital infrastructure and not just for our city, but for the entire National Aviation system, moving people and goods across the country and around the globe every day. Put simply O'Hare and Midway our cities within our city. More than 60,000 people work at our airports and a quarter of a million passengers pass through them daily as commissioner. My responsibility is to ensure these spaces are safe. Accessible welcoming inclusive for all and that we continue to maximize the value, they bring to Chicago's communities. if confirmed, I will lead with transparency accountability and collaboration, especially in part partnership with the members of this Council, I'm committed to building on a strong relationships CDA. Has fostered under commissioner Reed's leadership. together with you, our Airline partners and the residents and businesses, that rely on our airports every day, I look forward to advancing critical capital projects like O'Hare, 21 expanding our opportunities for small and diverse businesses. And ensuring every dollar we invest reflects the highest standards of public stewardship. Thank you for the opportunity to be appear before you today and I welcome your questions. Thank you, Mr. McMurray Questions from committee members. Alderman. Saris Good morning. Good morning. I want to thank you. You reached out to me personally, last week, um, asking for support for your, to be our new commissioner of Aviation. Thank you for that call. We had a chance to, to talk for a little bit. And I've talked to a lot of folks and they say a lot of good things about you. I think I was at the hospital. Yes, you were at the hospital when you picked up that phone call, but I've spoken to a lot of folks and they respect your credentials. So I wanted to get an understanding that under your leadership. How we're going to prioritize O'Hare? 21, the Redevelopment of O'Hare, 21. The reason being, is that in a couple of weeks, the RFP for the concessions is going to be due. and a lot of these concessions are It would be helpful that they get forecasted a opening date. Um, so I wanted to get an understanding that under your leadership. How we're going to prioritize the Redevelopment, oh, of O'Hare, 21. And if we have a construction schedule in place, we do. Um, and so for, um, For uh, satellite terminal satellite 1, we do the break ground this summer in July, so that's the goal that was the goal of the previous commissioner and I'm sticking to that schedule. So this summer and um, I expect that to be July will be be um breaking ground for S S1, okay? Um and we'll we'll, we'll proceed with the the schedule that's already in place for that. So I expect that, that schedule to stay in place. You, you mentioned concessions. Um, so there there a couple of issues, obviously, that are priorities for the Department right now, right. And you think you touched on 2 of them? Obviously, concessions is 148,000, square feet. 100 over 110,000 commercial stores. Uh, the largest of any, I think it's the largest of any uh us airport in the country ever. so um, that RP is obviously currently on the street right now and um I think those bids are due, June 6th, I believe it is June 6th so that we expect that to proceed. I've touched already a little bit on the phasing of the tap S1. We will be breaking ground in July. I expect to keep to that schedule. Um, I talked to a couple of the folks early and I very much Certainly that we will be sticking with that schedule. I think another issue is obviously just the gate redetermination, right? Um, with all American and United um Um yeah, obviously we're aware that the lawsuit has been been filed. So I'm not going to comment on the status of that. But just to say that, you know, um, the lawsuit itself and the disagreement that's taking place there, I think is some ways, is very positive and that shows that demand is up at O'Hare, right? Airlines are eager to fly to and from O'Hare, so, it's sort of a good problem to have, right? And so all the more reason for us to move ahead and stick stay on that schedule for uh, the tap program, know and thank you for your answer to that question because when we compare our city to other cities like Dallas, Denver and Houston, they have picked up their construction schedules. Yes. And so I think you that we foresee in July that will be picked up. Um, You know, I, I want to give the example of O'Hare Terminal 5 because it's taking them 3 and a half plus years to open up just 10 locations. And so how, how are we, how is the Chicago Department of Aviation going to ensure that 70 Plus locations are going to get built in 3 to 5 years? As part of this new RFP, that's going to be due in a couple of weeks? June 6th. Well, you're exactly right. So that's uh, that's going to be a tremendous task. Um, I know that um, I haven't need to talk with the staff and get back with them. I haven't had a chance. To really delve into it all. Excuse me. Um, But I know a team is in place. I think we'll be in a better position to understand and give an answer to that once those, um, rfps. Once. Those proposals come in, we've taken a look at them and then we know exactly what we're dealing with on those. So I can get back to you with that. Okay, great. No, I look forward to your answer for that. Just, you know, we're also considering a new Global terminal that's going to be built. And and, you know, those concessions are opportunities, are, are going to get fit out, but it just, it makes to get a sense of the forecast of the schedule. It just makes sense because yeah it just makes a difference when the acbd the ACD be they have to obtain financing and it it helps when they get a schedule in place and and all of that, make sure that it runs smoothly. Yeah, you're exactly right about that. I think the key is um you're right that's scheduling for everybody. everybody. It's also important that I concession is understand exactly. You know what they're getting into. So we need to make sure that they're educated on those opportunities and Then obviously also I want to make sure uh that the opportunities out there are very much reflective of the diversity and unique care uh character of the city of Chicago, that's very important. So everybody needs to have an opportunity to participate. I wanted to be reflective of Chicago and Chicago's diversity and uniqueness so exactly right. Well thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you, alderman. I'd like to recognize Alderman Bernett. Testing 1, 2, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, um, so, I feel like I grew up with Mike, you know, we, uh, both, uh, when I started as Alderman, he was around, um, many years ago I went and, uh, You know, and he has worked in several um, areas of the city of Chicago for 1. He's a lawyer. Uh, he also worked for General Services. He worked for procurement. He worked for Aviation, which makes him well-rounded. Uh, he also worked in the N for profit for Landell Christian organization, which tells you where his heart is. Um you know. So we know that him being there is like Is like clockwork, right? He'll be able to step right into the shoes and and be able to do what he need to do. Uh, but also on the other end, he worked for an engineering company. He went out to Private Industry. So he understands what businesses have to go through to do business with government, right? And, uh, so that gives him another unique perspective and they're able to make it easier and, and better for businesses to do business for the city of Chicago because the more businesses that do business with us, the more businesses we get to do business with us. So I think this is a great choice on the mayor's part. He couldn't pick a more rounder person, rounded person, uh, to be in this position, uh, right now, uh, in today's atmosphere, when we're trying to compete with cities all over the country, uh I just want to commend the mayor on this appointment. I want to thank you for taking that big salary, cut to come and commit. Yourself and do your civic duty for the city of Chicago. This is not a big raise for you. This is a, um, probably a labor of love for you, for the city of Chicago. So I just want to say, thank you very much. Um, and you this is like, you know, with the same age and you start in your career all over again. So God bless you. Thank you. Thank you, alderman. Alderman Quinn. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, Michael's nice to talk to you last week and I do appreciate um, Your eagerness to Jump Right In and deal with the defective smelly, windows on the southwest side that I've been working on since 2017. Um, and I look forward to continuing on. I think you have a, a unique opportunity, uh, relative to that specific problem and and actually getting those windows replaced for the, the hardworking people on the southwest side. Um, so I look forward to working with you. I think you have a great opportunity and I will be supporting this. Thank you, thank you. Thank you, alderman. Alderman Lopez. Thank you, chairman, and good morning, members of the committee. Mr. McMurray, it is nice to meet you. I don't think we've talked don't think we've met. Um and it's kind of unusual for someone who's going to be deciding whether or not she gets to keep this job. But nonetheless, you are here today. um, I want to. Just state that. Your resume. And your bonafides are very impeccable. And I appreciate you standing up and saying, yes. At a time when so many are looking at government to say, no. But at the same time, I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge what we are going through and seeing in the city right now. As well as the fact that what we saw announced yesterday. By the Department of Justice. and, when I hear, this Administration say that, we are striving for Inclusivity. Diversity. And I see a panel that does not reflect 1 single Latino here today. That reality, that perception does not match reality. And it's as the most senior person, senior Latino in this chamber. I find that completely unacceptable. I find it abhorrent. That there's not 1 Latino and CDA. That could have joined you up here today. Even for the sake of making a good picture. Perception is reality. And the reality that we're seeing today is that we're not part of this discussion. Airports are the biggest drivers of Economic Opportunity on both the Northwest Southwest sides and indeed the entire city of Chicago. Trust me, I know I used to work for an airline for over 12 years. The airports are a Melting Pot of every Community. Every ethnicity, every demographic, every religion. And that is what I think your leadership needs to be reflective of. Needs to take into account. And needs to broadcast as the front door of the city of Chicago. That you take that seriously. that you take the opportunity to bring real local businesses in whether they are from our Latino communities, African-American communities, Asian communities. I know you touched on that earlier in your comments but I think that saying it and doing it are 2 very different things. So I just want to say, well, I'm sure you're going to be confirmed today. I would re be remiss if I did not take this opportunity. To say it publicly. That I expect better. I'm sure many of my colleagues will say that But I will be the first to go on record and saying that. I hope the next time we see you that we have a more Dynamic and inclusive representation of what this city has to offer. In terms of both the scope and breadth of its Workforce as well as what it has to offer in the neighborhoods. Thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you Alderman. Uh, next Alderman Rodriguez. Fighting each of the members to a briefing, with the gentlemen, and also for him reaching out to each 1 of us. Uh, if I might re, uh, correct the record, uh, conveniently leaving, um, you know, uh, the fact is your record is impeccable and I'm As a Latino Proud to stand in support um you for this position. Do better as far as engagement is concerned across communities. Your predecessor actually was pretty damn good at uh addressing those issues. And at the very beginning of your term, uh, I challenged her Presentation. And I got to admit, she came through and I fully expect to say that Happened here. Um I am impressed by our engagements, you've answered all the questions I stood up and accepted your phone call and returned it. I set up to be there at the briefing that we were all invited to. So thank you for that kind of transparency and thank you for coming out and thank you Mr. Chair for leading that kind of transparency. Engaging process. You you show the way to lead. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you do. Um, but on this issue, I am very comfortable. I'm very happy uh, to support this nomination. Look. Latinos are a third of the city, we want to make sure that we're meeting those benchmarks. Uh, and I know that the upcoming opportunities at both O'Hare and the, uh, eventual opportunities at Midway, uh, will be reflective of our community because I will make sure that that's the case. And, uh, I'm glad you have my cell phone number. I have yours, and we will make sure that that gets burned up, even if that mink matters that that has to happen at the middle of the night. You strike me as that kind of individual. So you will have my support. You don't need to say anything more today, uh, to earn that support. Um and I Will you and every leader of our city, accountable to those Endeavors and I think you're up to it. So, thank you so, very much and thank you Mr. Chair. Thank you Alderman. Uh, I I think the record should reflect uh, Elizabeth Granado's Perez. Deputy Commissioner. Runs Midway Airport. Yes, and Rob Diaz. Man, uh, Deputy Commissioner handle security at O'Hare. So, um, I think it's important that they both be at those 2, international airports. Today, I would love to have them here. This was discussed before this, um, but I think the record should reflect that, uh, next, my colleague alderman waguespack. Thanks chairman and uh I also want to congratulate um Mr. McMurray on this appointment today and um thank you for taking the time to set that briefing up chairman. Um I think it was very helpful to listen to the viewpoints of my colleagues um, and the questions they had. And um, I wonder if you could just answer 1 question for me and it's, it's, it's a softball. Don't worry. Sure. Um, How do you? Yeah, yeah, it's down. It's a curveball my best. No, that's okay. Um, Uh Mr. McMurray thank you. But um how do you envision improving the state of the airports and in, in particular, we have, you know, millions of people that come through our airports. Um, and I and I travel are, uh, O'Hare uh as an international um flyer as well as na, you know, interstate and um All these people enter an exit, our airports, uh, on a daily basis. That is their first vision of Chicago. It's their first experience of Chicago. And I just wonder if you could just touch on how you see that uh, either changing or or improving and uh in particular than speaking directly to the issue of, you know, at O'Hare when you come off that plane and you're heading to the CTA and you go down the stairs of the escalator. That's your second view of Chicago and it's not as nice as the airport, but I wonder if you could talk about how you can improve that transition as well. So, first of all, I would like to say, that's great question, um, and I've traveled some too, and most recently, I was in Asia and I saw some of the, the airports there. Right. Obviously different systems. But just fantastic in terms of, uh, technology, um, beautification. Um, even AI. Uh, the uses of all that is just amazing. You get blown away and then I was also just in LaGuardia for instance, recently and that airport is amazing. Um, it did not look the way that it you, it doesn't look now the way that it used to look it was. And so, I think to answer your question, I think the beginning of that is what we've outlined so far with the tap, I think that's why the tap is so important. And the designs and the construction engineering of that, how it's laid out, I think it can get us to what you're asking about being that world class airport, right. Where um is reflective of Chicago. It'll make us proud um give our traveling public obviously. Safety is always first and foremost um but that world class experience that travel experience, right? At the same time, obviously the airport has to remain in economic driver and and all the the the, you know, the global connectivity that we needed to be both airports but particularly O'Hare. So I think it really, I think that tap, I think tap that whole program, it can that that's the beginning of you know making O'Hare a world class airport, right? If we build those facilities, if we build it the way that we know, we can build it the way it ought to be built the way. The city of Chicago wants it to be built Um, obviously in conjunction with our partners. Um, and we know what we want and how it ought to look. That'll give us that will get us to where we want to be. Thank you for that. And I think, um, we don't have a, we have an acting, uh, leader at the CTA. So I hope that when we finally find the right person that you can work very closely with them to make that CTA transition even better than it is now, but I appreciate that response and I'm glad you have the experience like our, your predecessor did of worldwide travel. This really see the types of things that we can improve on but um, and ambulate in some ways, but that we are also leading on and that goes to your staff and everyone that you'll be working with. And so I appreciate what you, what you've done and um what you will be doing in the future. Thank you very much. We can do better and we need to do better that airport needs to reflect Chicago. We are proud City, we're a great City, it's the best. Like the mayor says, it's best city in the world, that is the first indication. When people get off that plane, that's the first Ambassador. They see. Right. That's the first thing they notice is the people and the staff and the facilities Martin facilities, right? That that are accessible safe and sustainable, again facilities that, you know, reflect the diverse and unique character, that is Chicago, that's what I mean a aiming to do. That's why I'm back, and that's what I want to accomplish. Thanks Alderman. Alderman Harris. Thank you, chairman. Um, I want to say thank you to the chairman who went out of his way to make sure that you were, we would have the opportunity to speak with you talk with you. Get to know you before you got here. And so I want to say thank you, chairman for doing that. Um, it says something amazing about your leadership and making sure that we get that. I at least have the opportunity all 50 to interact, anybody who want to interact could have done it. So, I want to put that on the record that anybody out of the 50 was invited. Now, whether you picked up the phone and accepted, that was a horse of a different color. So today, um, Mike I'm so proud that it's you and so happy to be here, you know, I've been around a long time with the city, uh, as a St, early staffer, I started with the city in 198384. Um, I started working for an alderman in 1990. You were in high school and so you were. Yeah, I'm a do, I'm a dinosaur now. But you you have been around and have worked these Hallows and have relationships. I am excited. For the type of leadership that you bring, that you will bring to Aviation. And I am certain beyond a shadow of a doubt that you will work with all 50. But you will also trans help to transform Aviation and our airports, uh, as a person who's been in quite a few of them with kids, graduating from college this year, I've been all over the country at graduations. So, in airports, I am just thrilled. That we're going to have the type of leadership that is going to move Chicago forward. I have every faith in you and your ability to come in and create the diversity, whether it's your staff, uh, diversity and contracts, diversity, and all the rfps that are going to, uh, be uh, given that you will create fairness and transparency in that process. And so I am delighted that. It's you. I'm delighted to have the opportunity to serve with you now, and I'm just thrilled that we're going to be moving Aviation forward under your leadership. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, alderman. Alderman. Lee. Thank you chair. Um and I want to Echo the the Gratitude to to you as well for making sure that we had an opportunity. Um, I unfortunately didn't have too much of an opportunity to catch up with Mr. McMurray not for lack of his effort or this committee's, um, but I did have an opportunity to speak to people in my own Community about your reputation, um, and what they thought of you, uh, and I got nothing but, uh, but accolades, uh, and looking at your your resume and the things that you've done, um, you know, I, I can't say much more than what my colleagues have said. In terms of, thank you for taking this, uh, taking this Challenge um, I know having having come from the private sector to to the public sector, making that move. Um, it's not always an easy decision. But, uh, you know, we're, we're pulled to it clearly you are as well. Given all of the time that you've spent, um, helping to make this city, what it is and I have no doubt that moving forward. Um, you're going to be able to lead the aviation department and really um, set Chicago Aviation on a path for sustainability. And success. Um, so that we're thriving for the next 50, 60, 70 hundred years. Um I just have 1 question, what do you, what do you see? Are you going to be your biggest challenges? Just sort of in this, the first, you know, hundred 300 days. Yeah. Um, good question, again, I think um, you know, um, this this gate return termination, we determination that has to be resolved. Right. So that that's I think that's the first priority. That's 1 of the first priorities. Secondly is um as was mentioned earlier this this huge RFP for Um, concessions. That's big um and so that needs to we needs to make sure that that stay on track. And um, and we get those out and they get processed as quickly as possible as efficiently as possible. So that concessions are FP. And then the tap, right, uh, the timing of the tap, as mentioned earlier. Um, it's important, I think for us to break ground this summer in July. Hopefully, I think that's the date that we're looking at. So, I think those those 3 things we really need to keep on track, um, and it's very important, uh, that we do so. We, you know, my my goal is, listen, the the previous commissioner did a fantastic job, um, I've known the previous commissioner for about 25 years, probably longer than some of you have. Uh, we go back. I gave her her first tour when she came out to Aviation. I gave her her first Airfield tour, um, and she's a friend of mine. And uh, um, and so, we go way back, 25 years. I got big shoes to fill and I know that, um, um, whatever success, I have, whatever success. I experience, or we experience for me, is a function of the support and cooperation, I get from my staff, but more importantly, the it's a function of, uh, support and cooperation, I get from this body. So, um, as I appreciate all those those great things that people have said today, but I know I can't do it alone and I know how important the staff is and I know how important this body is together. We have to do all of that together. Those things that I mentioned a few minutes ago, those priorities gate return, termination redetermination concessions to tap All those things is going to take all of our efforts here. It really is input from all of us, moving forward for all of us. If we going to have the kind of airport that what, uh, Alderman, uh, Waggers pack talked about and what I envisioned, that's what it's going to take team effort. Well, I appreciate that. And it, as you said, it's going to take a team effort from all of the stakeholders involved, whether that's Airlines who are, that's right, you know who are um, who are battling for gate space and that, that means connectivity, that means more people coming through the city of Chicago. That means more Landing fees. That means all of that. Um, we all understand the kind of economic engine Aviation serves for the city of Chicago and as far as the, the concession contracts and the rfps go, know, that that is absolutely a once in a lifetime opportunity for businesses here in Chicago. Um, so I think it goes without saying but worth getting on the record as well. Um, that we want that to be reflective of the entire city of Chicago, uh, we have people from Many different backgrounds that are vying for a shot at that. So I I know that's not going to be a small task but 1 that I know that the department is up uh is up for the task. So you know that you'll have our support their, the 1 thing that I'll, I'll just mention that hasn't been mentioned yet, is that the job that the aviation department does? Um, at education, I think they do a great job, um, at, uh, trying to encourage young people to become, uh, part of the aviation industry having come from an airline myself. Having spent 15 years at once Airline. Um, I know what the demand is. All right, so whatever you can do to continue to encourage young people to pursue careers in aviation, um, that, that will be just as necessary. Because not only do we need the airports to be functioning. Uh, we need people to power those, uh, those airports and and all of the roles and all of the great careers that people can have in aviation. Yes. You will absolutely have my support today. Thank you. And I look forward to working with you more. Thank you. Thank you, Aldrin. Alderman. Ervin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, just a couple things, uh, your uh, information on your resume. All of that, good stuff, we know. I saw on paper, but uh, can you tell us a little bit about yourself as an individual? Sure. Thank you Alderman. So, um, I'm uh, I was born in here in Chicago, city of Chicago on the south side and Cha housing actually the Daryl home Clarence. Daryl projects, it's located at 3833 South Langley. They're gone now, they were near the Ida B Wells. 14th floor, Highway rise. I lived in was born in apartment 1401, I still remember that it's Elementary School there, Einstein Public Schools, so I was born in public housing. A lot of people don't realize that, um, and we lived in Chicago in public housing till I was about 10 years old family, uh, ate my 87 siblings. And my parents, they work very hard. Um, my parents came here. Uh, my mom did she migrated from the south from Arkansas? Uh, during the, my Great Migration. My dad was born in Southern Illinois. Um, they met here in southern they met in Southern Illinois, my dad graduated from high school. He went straight to the Army, he fought in the Korean War, Korean conflict, whatever you want to call it. So hand to hand combat there and actually won a purple heart. My mom worked for all of us in Montgomery, Ward Warehouse, Um, they both work together, Blue Collar, my dad worked in the company called Grain Company. Crane Company blue collar. um, but um, you know, um, They sent us all to school, they made sure we have food, they made. Sure we stayed out of trouble. They were good as a team. Um, I have other siblings. I have a younger brother who is an engineer. He Uh worked for years from Motorola headed up a division. there electrical engineer and he's working for the state of Illinois. Heading up the it for the Department of Health and Human Services. Uh, my older 2 Brothers, 3 Brothers, they all served in the military Marines and army 2 sisters, who sister who worked for Chicago public school and retired. 1 was a principal for Chicago public school and retired 1 uh as a librarian in Chicago and now I'm retired. Um, so I come from a family of service. As you know, I've worked for the city in the past. I worked for the federal government in the past. I worked for the County government in the past. Um so I come from a family of service, people ask. Why would I come back? I think 1 of the alderman mentioned because service is sort of in my blood. That's that's what my family is. All my family is served and some capacity Andor they're still serving in some capacity. um, when I was about 10, we moved to Markham a black working-class suburb nothing fancy. We moved out there when I was about 10. I was raised out there. I went to Thornwood High School. Was fortunate and went to Northwestern University and the University of Michigan for law school. The rest is, is there Um, but I care about the city. I love the city when I came back from school from Michigan. I, I, I came back and moved right back to the city of Chicago, because it's a city that I love I've been fortunate but the city of Chicago, most of my career particularly in the public sector earn that because of the experience I got at the city of Chicago. Um, so public service to me means a lot. Gives me value is given my career value. So coming back um to me was almost a no-brainer Um, for this particular opportunity, I knew how crucial it was uh to the city. Um, the former commissioner, big friend of mine, again, I've known her for 25 years, my thinking was, you know, that would be great to have somebody. Um, of that same vein continue in this position rather than somebody else do it. Um, and that was my thinking. Awesome. Thank you. Um, what do you see? Uh, the department and the next 2 to 3 years? What do you what do you anticipate will happen? Um, How do we get uh construction back on track? Uh how do we, how do we make this? Make a little more sense than what is making now. Yeah, so 1 of the thing, that's a great question Alderman. So, 1 of the things, um, I some of the things, I know, just from briefing, some things I've read in the paper. So I really got to really get in and start to dig in to see maybe where this can be more efficiencies talking with the staff. Seeing how we can maybe phase things differently, reorganize this, to have differently, bringing some people in, um, to take a fresh eyes look approach of things. Um, but um, I, you know, uh, the phasing of uh and where we at. There's so many dominoes that have to fall in place, first right right before, other things, take place. Um, I've mentioned it before. What's key? Is this whole, um, um, uh, uh, gate redetermination, Um, I really need to look at that first. I think that may, I think it could possibly affect the phasing of the tap. Right. So, and then obviously the phasing of the tap, um, getting the um, Um, maybe taking a fresher, look at our relationships with the Airlines and our Airline Partners. Um, again, I think our former commissioner did a great job but obviously I'm a different person and I may have some different ideas about how to approach things not necessarily better but different. Um and so I think it starts with maybe re-engaging our partners on another a different level, all of our partners but particularly the airlines to see how we can do things faster, better more efficiently and accomplish all the things that we need to. You know, want to accomplish you know at at both airports actually both airports. I just don't want to talk about over here but both are crucial. Um, Again, just particularly with respect to modernizing those facilities. Sure. Uh Mr. Anderson in the back is uh listening very intently as it works to gate reallocation. His, uh, his employer. But be that, as it may, uh, we talked about O'Hare. We don't spend a lot of time on Midway. Uh, the competitive nature of O'Hare, I think is Lent itself to creating an atmosphere where it's helped with fairs and other things as far as consumers can concern. However, in Midway, I see quite the opposite happening with the um, things happening around Southwest with that being a fairly dominant Airline at Midway. Uh, what I did is do you all have as it relates to bringing an increased competition in the Midway Airport? Um, so that's a great idea. Um, I mean that's a great question, obviously, I haven't talked to the staff but you're exactly right. I mean, the key is that competition, right? So you never want 1 Airline dominating, right? Um, any particular airport because that means they control fairs scheduling. All of that. Um, I know that the airport is is required to file a yearly competition plan. I have not seen that competition plan, that was was found. I don't know if it's been filed this year or it's going to be filed. So I need to take a look at that. But the point is you're exactly right Alderman. Your point is well taken. I mean, Having that competition out there is key to obviously pricing better and more competitive pricing more routes for consumers. Um, um, and so, it's imperative that we have that, but I need to take a look and I don't know what the, I can get back to you on that. No, that's true. That's fine. But you're right. Exactly. Right. Okay, all right. Well again, uh, I think, uh, as many of our, our 2 had a chance to have brief conversations, appreciate, uh, reaching out and, uh, I guess, uh, based on what we're hearing today, we should, uh, be able to move this, uh, Tomorrow and tomorrow, tomorrow's, Wednesday council's on Wednesday. So uh, in advance. Congratulations to look forward to working with you. Thank you. And I, I know there was there may be a few of you. I know I reached out to you, um, and I was a little bit ill over the the weekend and I owed him in tovarus. Can I think she called me? And I picked up the phone while I was actually at the hospital. So I apologize if I didn't get back to some of you. I know that I I, uh, have left messages or texts. And I said, I would call or whatever. I just didn't get a chance to do that because I, um, I I was just really out of it. I was just glad I can make it here today, actually, so feeling much better though. So, Thanks Alderman. Uh, next we'll be, uh, Alderman. Curtis Thank you. Uh, thank you chairman. Um, Uh as you all know uh Aviation is near and dear to my heart. So uh it's been a blessing for me to uh Vice chair. chair. And be a part of this team for the past 6, 7 years. Uh, I've worked very close with all of you. I'm glad that, uh, our chairman Spoke of the diversity. uh, in CDA, uh, we we because 1. Good thing about, uh, Jamie she, she didn't play that. She made sure that, uh, the department of Aviation actually reflects the city of Chicago, she's always done that. And you can always bring that to her and she will correct anything that you thought, uh, wasn't. Um, Wasn't right. Um, You know, we all missed Jamie. Uh, when I first heard she was leaving, I was pissed. I didn't, I didn't want to leave. But, uh, we must allow people to, you know, uh, go and grow. Uh I think uh Tracy you stepping up. And this in this uh, uh, hero was great. You guys work like, uh, a puzzle. Um, you believe in. Uh, you know, we're only as strong as our weakest link and you always bring it together, you know, Amber Hayden. You guys are all great Bernie. Uh, I've worked with all of you, uh, and, and, and it's been a great experience. You go into a great Department. I I'm, I am. when we spoke, um, I was so glad to hear you say that you're not looking to really. We know that you're going to do your own thing and we want you to because we want to continue to grow but when you mentioned how great uh our past commissioner was and you want to finish what she started. That was admirable. I I I I really appreciate that. We got a lot in common. I know that you're going to do great in this role. Uh so I don't know if we have anyone else. Uh, speaking. But, um, How we do. So I won't move through pass yet. So, thank you so much for joining, the team. Welcome back to Chicago. I would say, uh, because your credentials do show that you can um maintain the Integrity that CDA had so so, um, appreciate you. Uh, chairman and team. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Thank you Alderman, doubt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I wanted to first, thank you for um um, making space for us to talk to, uh, the new commissioner of Aviation. Um, And thank you for reaching out and for the conversation. So we've had, uh, prior to today the 1 and to sort of follow up a little bit on, uh, chairman Irvin's point where you talked about taking a different approach. Uh, to the department than perhaps, um, the former commissioner had, um, noting that you were the managing Deputy director of procurement. Um, and we have this uh, diversity working group going on what new approaches or what? Um, new strategies are you thinking about, um, perhaps with the D, uh, the new procurement director, that could move the needle on the uh Contracting numbers for minority. um, Participants, that's a good question. So, um, Let me start off by saying, yes, you're correct. I was managing Deputy over commissioner in Department of procurement services. And um back in 2002 or 3, the city had gotten sued by the Illinois road, builders about his mwbe program. And at that time, I was in the department of Aviation the mayor's office had me, come downtown and I led our efforts to revamp our mwbe program at the time. So the nwb program that you have That was my work. I let that effort for the city of Chicago. At the time, it had gotten challenged federally and then we were, it was either to end it, or mend, it James Moran, federal judge and District, um, northern district of Illinois. He giving us 6 months to end that program or amended or ended, we were able to amend it and keep that program. So that's those those uh, mwbe acdbe. All of those programs are very important. I know there may be letters to some people, but I know behind those letters are, are, are uh, uh, uh, business owners with real dreams with goals with employees who, um, people rely on the employees and staff rely on them for mortgages, um, for college for schools, right? For their kids. So it's more than just those letters. There's, there's people behind that, there's stories behind that there's history is behind that. Um, and so, um, when I, you know, I think 1 of the things. I'm always interested in is, um, whatever numbers there are, and I know most of those numbers are aspirational Um, but, you know, not to just meet those numbers to exceed where we can, I think that's important. I look at those uh, programs and those numbers not a ceilings but floors they're starting place, right? And so there's always an opportunity to do better. I think that's how the prior commissioner looked at it but I will certainly look at it from a Contracting standpoint myself again, looking at those those, whatever aspirational goals are set for our contracts. Those are just the floor. That's where we start. That's not our ceiling. um, I hear that and thank you for that and I guess once you get your feet, uh, firmly planted in the department, I'd be interested in knowing What you think can be done differently? That would, um, increase the yeah numbers. Yeah, I need to look at. See, you know, what the Outreach is being? I think it's been great but continue that Outreach the education, right? What's out there? Making sure people are aware of opportunities. However, we can do that. I think all of those things are are are as what's needed when I was at the city, I always looked at as um, particularly in procurement I didn't want to be a barrier. I always wanted to make it easier for people to do business with the city. I didn't see myself as this gatekeeper to keep people out, but how can we make it easier for them and make it, you know, and make let them know what opportunities and make them be successful in. Whatever that endeavor was how they can do business with the city of Chicago. That's the way I think it needs to be approached. That's how our approach it definitely from CDA. How do we make it easier and welcoming? Not barriers, but how do we make it possible for people to get into that right? I wish you well on this new Endeavor thank you thank you so much. Thank you Mr. Chair. Thanks Pat. Alderman Robinson. Mr. McMurray um thank you for uh your time um and reaching reaching out. I don't want to belabor the point I just want to mention a couple things 3 to be exact. Number 1, um, ottoman. Lee who worked for United mentioned? And I believe my other colleague mentioned the aviation industry. Um, Mr. McMurray at at some point. we really need to look at all of the Airlines and how we can connect them to city colleges and Chicago Public Schools. Um, we know that we need to create opportunities for our young, people across our 77 neighborhoods. And I believe that we can do that through Ave. Ation. And I believe that you're the person that can lead that charge. And so, again, I, I want to reiterate what my colleagues mentioned, as opportunities in the aviation field with the airlines also, uh, uh, with the other ancillary things that tie into Aviation the Food Service security. Um, all the other things that tie into that, it just doesn't just have to be United or the large carriers. All the other opportunities that are at that airport. We should be leaning in on all of these folks, to create opportunities for our young folks. Um secondly uh I would ask you to walk your campus. Um, just like a A visitor. Um, I reached out to Bernie um who uh is just a tremendous asset uh to the city of Chicago Department of Aviation and you uh when we come through O'Hare and we're exiting particularly internationally when we come down to the baggage claim, go down that escalator, look at what folks are saying. Um also go through the bathrooms. Uh we want to make sure Of that, we are this great city. Um, and people this International City and I know that there's a cost associated with it, but we have to figure out how to make sure that our bathrooms are and and pristine condition. We should be able to do that. Uh, and then the lastly, let's figure out how to be The city of Atlanta. All right. Yes. Uh, but Mr. McMurray, congrats to you, I look forward to working alongside of you. Chairman, I would also reiterate, uh, with my colleagues. Uh, how you have, um, put us in the Forefront. Um, and making sure that we have everything that we need, um, to be dangerous in this committee and so kudos to you. Thank you very much. And, and Autumn if I may, I just to follow up on the, um, opportunities. You're exactly right. And I know the Chicago Department of Aviation just recently had a job fair. Um, I wasn't there obviously, but I I understand it was very successful. I don't have the numbers on. 1500 attendees, right? And so, I think that's great, but obviously, we always want to strive to do better. I agree. There are opportunities there that people need to be aware, aware of a lot of those opportunities and career, and job opportunities are very well-paying jobs. People just aren't aware of them, um, and so it's incumbent on us to continue to get that message out there to educate and let people know what opportunities are out there for them. So you're exactly right. I agree. Thank you Alderman. Are there any other members with questions or a comment? Can I get a motion to pass? Alderman. Curtis So moves all in favor. All opposed. Unanimous in the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it. The due pass, recommendation of this fine appointment will be reported out at the next city council meeting tomorrow. Wednesday, May the 21st. Um, Congratulations, Mike. Uh, a little bit more work to do tomorrow but, uh, appreciate all of you being here. Uh, I don't need to tell you what a wonderful leadership team, uh, you have and, um, I look forward to working with you and in closing on this topic, I'd like to, uh, Wish you a very happy birthday to acting. Commissioner Tracy Payne. Thank you. Thank you all. I appreciate your support and I I look forward to the collaboration and working with you all. Thank you. Congratulations, sir. Um, we have 1 more item, item number 3. Ordinance 202500016745. Approval of an amendment to concession agreements at Chicago O'Hare, International Airport. Approving transfers of interest regarding voge North American. Knutzen Clark at Midway? And Cabo experiences. Um, Alderman, Quinn pointed out, uh, Cabo is derived from the aviation acronym, ceiling invisibility and limited. So thanks for that Marty uh, from St, Rita. At this time, I would ask managing Deputy Commissioner Amber Ritter from the Department of Aviation to. Um, Lead us through the ordinance. Amber. Thank you so much, chairman and thank you council members. Um, this has been a, a a really nice uh hearing to to obviously. Also to hear everyone's priorities for our department, uh, going forward. Um, this should be uh, relatively quick and we have some great um, representatives representatives from our acdb communities here today, uh, on this ordinance. Um, we are looking to change, uh, some some tweaks of ownership of 3 of our uh tenants for 4 total total leases as uh, chairman mentioned, the first is and I'll go through all these in detail. But nuts, on Clark, the second is voge chocolate in the third is jabber box. Um, next slide, please. So, the reason for, um, having to come to council for this is that each of these leases uh, provide that transfers involving all of a tenants interest in the lease in the agreement require approval of the city council. So as you'll see as I go through these, these are all sort of just um, you know in in inside baseball changes of corporate structure within these tenants, nothing is really changing. Um significantly with the tenants and the tenants and the acdb represent representation continues to be uh, fantastic strong and largely local. So I will go through that in a moment. If you go to the next slide please, um, I'll start with nuts. On Clark. Everybody knows nuts, on Clark, right? And I want to just give a shout out to our great Partners from North and Clark, who are here representing as they always are uh at every possible event. Um wonderful partners with the airport and obviously 1 of 1 of our partners for Chicago. Um, uh, Where's the nuts? I know. I know I thought that's going to be what was going to be asked? Okay well um, so they're widely available at the airport so please come come. Select them. Um, We do have that and that's actually 1 of the things we're here today. So there's we have 2 leases from nuts on Clark. Uh, okay, I knew I knew they brought something. I knew it Actually showering. All right. So, okay, so nuts, on Clark. Um, we'll continue, I just want to make it clear. We're continuing to operate as nuts on Clark. Um, they're just had, they have an internal corporate structure that they're shifting, um, nuts on Clark. The first tenant, the first lease is for our inline concessions at O'Hare. Previously, the tenant was was known as nuts. On Clark, Union Station Incorporated, it's now becoming nuts. On Clark, Midway Airport, Incorporated. Don't get confused. This is at O'Hare but that's just the corporate name. Uh importantly uh nuts, and Clark is a 100% woman-owned business. It is a 100 AC dbe certified business as a woman-owned business by our wonderfulness. Estelle Kenny, who is here today. She, uh, is the owner and operator of the company. Um, she will continue to be the 100%, uh, wbe uh, acdbe interest. So that that is under the entity. Now called nuts, on Clark, Midway Airport, Incorporated, similarly, with the vending machines, which is a separate lease, uh, had been nuts on Clark Incorporated will now be called nuts on Clark. Midway Airport, Incorporated same, uh, acdbe structure with 100%, uh, acdb representation, uh, as a wbe. Um, so that is the first corporate change of anyone has any questions on that nuts on Clark piece? Um, whether you'd like to ask them now or at the end, please do. So, um, the second is voge chocolates, also a Chicago based, uh company. Um, the previous tenant was known as voge limited, it is now changing its structure to Vogue, North American O'Hare JV LLC. So the reason for that is that uh new ownership, ship had purchased the business and has restructured it. Um, we have here today, um, representatives from the company who is purchase V, which is called LaMontagne Holdings, or at least for this purposes of this lease and importantly, um, the acdbe partner so, previously to this, the ACD, uh, be participation was 100% wbe by the uh, owner, Katrina, marcov, that is Shifting and is now a 10%. Uh, acdb ownership by our uh our good friend and local uh concessionaire Devin Rand, who is Al here today? Uh, from North American concession. So this is Shifting to a, a 10% acdbe, but again, by a local businesswoman, um, MBE wbe as well. Devin Rand Um, and then finally, we have jabber box. Um, these are just if folks aren't familiar, these are these personal uh, pods, where you can go in pay to have essentially like small office to yourself in order to conduct business. We actually don't have them yet at O'Hare because we've been working with the design uh, with our fire department and some other entities, um, to make sure that they, they meet that they, they meet all the specs, but now that has been complete. So the original tenant was called Mag USA. Uh, the new tenant will be called jabberbox LLC. The acdbe uh, change, it had previously and continues to be a 32.5% acdbe ownership by. Uh, the Forest Group which is alen owned by which is alen owned by Alan Forest, who is an African-American man, um, based in La, I think so that's an acdbe 32.5%. Um, that is it that is what we're asking for approval of we, uh, as always are very, um, excited about our our existing concessions. Our wonderful Partners, many of whom have taken time out of their day to be here for this. Historic day with the aviation committee. So it shows again their dedication um, to our airports and to their businesses. Thank you. Thank you Amber, uh, questions from committee members. Um, Alderman waguespack. Thank you, chairman, uh, Mr. Thanks for the presentation today. I just wanted to say, um, congratulations to our 2, uh, food based companies. Um, voge is in the 32nd Ward, I appreciate the work they do, they're a great, uh, operation there and both of these make, uh, incredible gifts to take overseas, you know, when you're at the airport and you're looking for something, uh, A Taste of Chicago, these are 2 businesses. If I'm not, you know, at the airport, I pick them up ahead of time. Um, and they are things that our family definitely brings overseas whenever we go glad to see them at our airports and, uh, continuing to do business, uh, for Chicago, uh, cob we might be a little tougher to carry around or jabber box, but, um, Thank you very much for making sure that they're able to do business out there. Thank you, chairman. Thank you Alderman, uh, for purposes of Quorum, I'd like to recognize Alderman Coleman, uh, is in attendance. Alderman. Ervin. Thank, thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, just 2 questions 1 as it relates to the uh, nuts on Clark. Is there any MBE component to, uh, nuts on Clark nuts? On Clark, is 100% owned, um, as an acdbe, but it is a Woman based business. It's a family-run business, um, with Estelle Kenny, again being the, the acdbe participation 100 percent is that a licensing agreement or is that actually the company itself operating the comp operating this concession, would anyone like to come up to address? It's it's a, it's a company itself. There's no license. Oh, okay. Okay, very well. And then on on the, on the second 1 I saw that we have a we have a What was it? 10% votes chocolates. Yes. 10% nbe. And why at that level or not more commissioner than the 26 or or 30% range. So um voge chocolates, as I understand, it was sold in a UCC sale. The, the, the corporation. And so the purchaser was again, a company called La maintain Holdings which is represented here today. Um, they were able to partner with Devin ran from North North American concessions, for a 10 percent representation. Um, if, if you all would like to come up to discuss, kind of the, you know, the business Arrangement there. Um, we are very happy to have, uh, 10%, um, representation from voge. Um, I know it's a little bit of a struggle to to make sure that they had acdb representation going forward because of the corporate, uh, purchase. Um, but um, you know, we're very happy with those. We're very obviously Devon, Rand is a wonderful partner to the airports. Um, she does a lot of work at Midway as well, of course. Um, and that is the corporate structure that they've settled on. Would you like me to call them as a witness? Sure, why not? Okay. Yeah. I have to go off. We're gonna speak from here. Uh, please State your, uh, you know what Deb could you come up? Just so that, uh, we have Clarity, uh, for uh recording purposes. Thank you. I don't know if I like sitting in this chair next time, I'm gonna just stand from where I am. Uh, Devin ran president of North American concessions. Um, so this particular lease that we are talking about now is a current month-to-month lease at O'Hare Airport, this is not a portion of the new RFP that is being responded to on June 6th. This is the interim lease that we are entering into at this point in time. Obviously with a larger ownership percentage going to um nacb there, would obviously be a larger Capital requirement for us to keep the space operating as properly. I I want to say that I'm actually allergic to chocolate but I still partnered with them. That's how much I believe in in them. Uh, Jay was gracious enough to make me some uncoded items when I went to the factory. So I I feel like I got a, a secret menu. So I'm very happy with that. And we at North America and are very pleased with our percentage at this point and we're very pleased to be able to kind of get our feet wet because we have had exposure obviously in Midway Airport, Report. But this gives us an opportunity to learn a little bit more about O'Hare directly. Okay. So then uh this is okay, got it. That makes sense, then uh temporarily then. Okay, that's all. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, thank you alderman. Thanks Devin, thanks Jake. Uh, are there any other questions from committee members? Can I get a motion to pass so move? Ordinance 2025000016745, uh, move to pass, uh, by alderman waguespack. Opposed. In the opinion of the chair of the eyes have it. The due pass, recommendation of this ordinance will be reported out at the next city council meeting on Wednesday, May 21st 2025. There being no further business before the committee. Can I get a motion to adjourn Alderman? Spas so moves, all in favor, say I Opposed. In the opinion of the chair of the eyes, have it meeting the committee on Aviation is adjourned. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Are you heading back over to?