The committee on finance this call to order. We will have a roll call to establish quorum. Vice chair Conway. Alderman laspata. Alderman Mitchell Alderman Beal. Alderman, Quinn. Alderman Lopez. Alderman Moore. Alderman, Curtis Alderman, OSHA Alderman, Taylor Alderman, Mosley Alderman, Rodriguez, almond Scott Alderman, CEO Lopez, Alderman, brunette Alderman. Ervin, Alderman, tally, Farrell Alderman, Cardona. Alderman waguespack. Alderman Rodriguez. Sanchez Alderman, Quezada. Alderman. Vagus almond spaz. Alderman Vasquez Alderman, Reilly alderman, kuden. Alderman. Martin Alderman Silverstein Chair dowel is here. We have a quorum. We have 16 present in the chamber. Alderman, Lee Alderman mitts Alderman Ramirez Alderman, Harris, Hopkins and Hall, have Brooke, and Scott have requested to participate remotely at today's meeting for reasons. Under the provision of rule 59, can I have a motion to allow these Alderman to enter the meeting so moved by Alder? Silverstein. All those in favor signify by saying I opposed in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and I want to confirm Alderman Lee. From president chair. Good morning, Alvin mitts I'm present here, Alderman, Ramirez, present Alderman, Harris. Alderman Hopkins uh president good morning all, good morning Alderman Hall. And Alderman, Scott. All right, at this time, we will begin the public comment period, which is limited to 30 minutes out of respect for everyone's Time. Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. We'll begin. This morning's public. Testimony with Zoe lelay. Good morning. Good morning. Happy Monday. The city of Chicago is already gone through the 82 million that Brandon Johnson set, aside for settlements and judgments in 2025. Now, the fund can soon be 62.4 million in the hole. That's how much 6 new settlements today at the city council. Uh can finance committee will end up paying us now, that's not counting, the 15.5 million settled meant to private investors who lease Chicago uh, parking meters when daily Junior, sold the streets to Dubai. um, our new attorney though, just filed a 60 rule motion because we found fraud upon the previous, uh, case. And uh, this is just isn't regular fraud, it's serious, you know, the city of Chicago Law Department keeps assigning Bradley Wilson, the same attorney, who committed the fraud uh to this case. Now, he's handling the 1 Where My First Amendment rights are being violated the case, I finally filed after all of you guys, tried to defame me. Arrest me and silence me. It's definitely a conflict of interest, but this whole body and current Administration is a conflict of interest. Now, for the last, uh, Week. uh, I have been getting all types of threats, uh, physical altercation that led to Paul McKinley not looking too good afterwards because he should never touch, no type of woman just because of this movement that is happening. Now I don't care what y'all bring up about my past. I know I used to be a Savage, I know but they don't have nothing. It's nothing compared to what y'all have done for you. Years and decades. Even before I was born, you have a bank robber who is the vice mayor and he sold out Cabrini Green and Cha with the help of his wife and his wife was working for cha. I know a lot of stuff so y'all can take it there. I'm going to take it to hell. Do not bother me, settle, do settle my cases. I got 4 cases and I'm about to do this case with rainbow push because they keep violating my my rights over there as well. I'm not playing with none of y'all. I have an attorney now. Nobody is playing. This is all going to stop. This is all corruption. This 1 big Rico. Y'all been been stealing forever. Y'all the biggest scammers on Earth so I don't care what y'all try to bring up about me. I do not care so y'all can continue to find stuff, send people all that stuff. I ain't Tha 1 I'm not the 1 and I and y'all know that it's 3 years, it's going in my third summer, this year is disrupt time. If y'all don't settle my case, tell Bradley Wilson Mary Richard, the Lord. Glory all them people sat on my case I'm not the 1. I'm not the 1 Trump come here Department of Justice Kash Patel dambo y'all come these people need to go to prison. Operation grey Lord 2.0, I'm not playing with none of y'all. Our next speaker is George Blakemore. Waste, Fraud and Abuse. Empty seat. Can you imagine the second or third largest city in in uh, in America and nobody's here? Nobody's here. It's sickening. It's unamerican. Its corruption. Nobody's here. So I guess the people deserve the government, they get and they get the government they deserve and this just didn't happen. Malcolm X birthday is the day you go to out to Malcolm X all his family. Something happened to the black man. Inside in America. All this money is now fifty million dollars. Or more. For illegal immigrants. That's why you can't why you gonna get this money from and I I watch you. And I see how y'all interact with each other. Y'all are quite comfortable periods of a Feather blocked together. All of you. Go Blue. Corruption. Slippery. Go red. I, I I had to do this. You bad, you bad, you bad. All of them. All of. Now, where is fake news? Look at the empty seat, something is wrong here to have this meeting and and, and you have nobody here. You have and you're happy. You're happy. I notice how this man in an actor with the children that came over you know racial turn. They just all 69 in each other. Why did you say that Mr? Blakemore. Just watch him. Just watch him not a 1 of them. Not a 1. Uhuh. It's this man came and come way and you think he's gonna do something with with with P. It's just a show. Miss. I tried to explain to him. 1 Thing free. Look at here. Something gonna happen here. Come back to God, gonna come back here. And something Gonna Change here, it got to change. The change. Got to come here. The change. Got to come. I don't know the results, but it's Gonna Come. Our next speaker is Allison Cruise. Good morning Alders. Um, as a lifelong Chicago resident. I'm grateful to be able to speak before you today, I grew up in the 19th, Ward, and currently work and live in the 34th Ward. I work in mergers and Acquisitions for a utility scale, renewable energy developer. Today, I urge you to support the Hazel M Johnson cumulative, impacts ordinance. As a constituent in a proud. Chicagoan, I am looking for the city and this committee to prioritize strategy over sentiment. Acknowledging. The burden placed on Frontline communities. Is not enough. This is what we need from our city strategy over sentiment. Today, we can strategize on how to create a financial aid, resilient Chicago? Financial resilience as I've learned and security can be achieved by managing risk and the biggest risk for the next generation and my own is a changing climate. Our inaction to protect Frontline. Communities is costing us. We can confront this risk and protect our communities or we can continue to do as we have always done and discount tomorrow for the sake of today. Chicago is facing more than a billion dollar deficit in 2025 economically as a country. We are being tested. Hesitation to invest in our future is an understandable and predictable reaction to the current uncertainties our communities and Market space. The factors that have caused these current conditions are out of the control of this chamber. I understand that but this chamber influences what our city becomes, Chicago is going to, and arguably already has become a city of climate migration. Climate migration exists as an externality of the Industrial Development of our world it occurs. When people are displaced due to the climate crisis, he waves floods droughts fires poverty and the list goes on. This is a risk, mitigating ordinance, there are minimal additional enforcement and implementation costs because the departmental structure already exists within the city. So how does Chicago want to adapt to this changing world? Do we want to stay competitive in it? I believe measures like this. Ordinance are how we do this by valuing the safety of our communities Above All Else. External costs created by industry. Do not just vanish Into Thin Air. They embed themselves in communities and keep those communities sick. We desperately need business models that work for the people and our sustainable long term. So both businesses and communities can flourish Either we can create a better framework for Development. Across the city are likely faced lawsuits difficult, policy changes and the hidden costs of an action later. The choice is yours. Thank you. Our last speaker is Joseph Negron? Good morning. I'm Joe. Nigro 41st Ward resident lifelong Chicago and and right share driver. First. Congratulations on. Negotiating, a low payout. For the parking meter company. The parking concession has to be 1 of the worst long-term deals. The city has ever made. All the wealth is extracted from this city where would our finances be if those funds stayed here? As far as the right share ordinance, the fair share ordinance, and indifference to the finance committee. Let me focus on some numbers. Over 1 billion. Uber is required to provide passenger price information to Chicago and New York power switch action compared over 1 billion rides. This is data directly from Uber. Between 2019 and 2023 prices in Chicago skyrocketed by 54%, in New York prices, only increased by 36. The difference Chicago passengers are exploited by algorithmic price discrimination. New Yorkers rates are based on time and distance. Another study by Professor Sherman at Columbia University showed that the national average increase pricing during the pandemic was 40%. New Yorkers saved money compared to the rest of the country, certainly compared to Chicagoans That same study showed, drivers earnings dropped by 17% from 2022 to 2023. Further detailing that between 2018 and 2022. Uber raised prices by 83%. That's an annual average increase of 17.5%. The recent grid rise study showed that in 2024, Uber again raised prices by 7.2% a passengers. While Uber drivers saw a drop if 4% in PEI. All these price increases have been way more than even inflation can account. For the wealth of Chicagoans is being extracted by these algorithms. We need our representatives to stand up for us. The fair share ordinance, eliminates the algorithms, that overcharge passengers and underpays drivers. There's also a take rate cap of 20% so that passengers won't get gouged. Imagine where would this City's finances be today if that wealth stayed in the pockets of Chicagoans spent locally on housing groceries, vehicle maintenance, and the many other things we need in our day-to-day lives. This should be a no-brainer. The ordinance gives a raise to over 85,000 drivers and protects passengers for those of you who haven't already done. So I ask that you please sign up as a sponsor for this ordinance and when the fair share ordinance comes to the floor, please vote. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. This concludes public comment. I want to thank everyone who spoke this morning. Um, I want to acknowledge that we've been joined by Alderman. Quinn Alderman, Rodriguez and Alderman laspada, who will be counted towards, uh, Quorum. And, uh, Alderman Taylor has requested remote participation by rule, 59, can I get a motion to allow her to enter? So moved by Alderman Quinn, um, All those in favor. Signify by saying I I opposed and the opinion of the chair, the eyes, have it and alderman. Taylor are you with us this morning? All right, Cameron, ottoman Harris is here. I'm sorry. Thank you Alderman. Harris, got you Um, we'll begin with the monthly. Rule, 45 report for April 2025. The report was sent electronically to everyone. If there are no questions, can I get a motion to recommend approval of the monthly rule, 45 report. So moved by Alderman, Cardona. All those in favor, signify by saying iOS and the opinion of the chair. The eyes have it. Um, we have a total of 5 items on the amended agenda this morning and we'll begin with item number 1, which is from the office of budget and management. It's an ordinance authorizing. A 1-time fee, waiver for the Metropolitan Water, Reclamation District of Greater Chicago, for the construction of a project, at 1, 112 Ward. We do have a letter of support from Alderman, Reilly and we are joined by Dennis Barrett from the budget office and Kevin Fitzpatrick from the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District. If there are any questions on this matter Alderman. Ervin. Thank you, madam chair. What, what's actually being constructed and how much is the waiver? Could you repeat your question? I didn't even I'm sorry. I said what? What are the constructing and how much is the waiver? Thank you. Um, Mr. Kirkpatrick Fitzpatrick. Hi. Yes. So we are redoing our identify your name for the your name and title for the record. Yes, Kevin Fitzpatrick. Metropolitan Water Reclamation, District of Greater Chicago. So we have uh, 2 Office Buildings at 111 East Erie and 100 East Erie and the building at 111 East area was damaged in a flood. Uh, ironically last August, um, we are totally redoing that building it hadn't been done since 1986, so we are updating it to meet codes. Um, for safety reasons, the permit is going to be in a a roughly, a 40,000 dollar cost range um and we are trying to Fast Track so we can get our employees back downtown. Thank you. Motion made by Alderman, Ervin, recommending do pass all those in favor. Signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of chair. The eyes, have it. And the due pass recommendation will be reported out at the May 21st city council meeting item number 2 is from the Department of Law. It's a communication, transmitting reports of cases in which verdicts judgements or settlements were entered into for the month of April 2025. The list of payments approved was sent electronically to everyone and if there are no objections, this item will be placed on file with the clerk. Item. Number 3 is from the Department of Law. It is, uh, 5 proposed orders authorizing, The Corporation Council to enter into and execute settlement orders in the following cases. Uh, case number 3A is the Chicago parking meters, LLC versus the city of Chicago Department of Finance, AAAA case number 0224008 2839 and the amount of 15.5 million. Um, we are joined this morning by James MacDonald, the managing Deputy Corporation Council from the Department of Law who will present on this matter. Good morning, Mr. MacDonald. Good morning. Chairman And good morning members of the finance committee. As was said, I'm Jim McDonald. I'm a managing, Deputy Corporation Council for the Law Department. And I'm here to discuss the proposed settlement agreement between the city of Chicago and Chicago parking meters LLC. this settlement agreement res, resolves, 3 separate disputes, The city has had for most of the past 5 years, where Chicago parking meters LLC, who I'll refer to as CPM. CPM is the concession are under the city's. Parking meters, concession agreement. On the first dispute, which I'll call the meter designation dispute. CPM claimed that the city owed them, 322 million and compensation for alleged losses. Due to certain meter designation actions. The city took in 2021 and 2022. Under this settlement agreement. The city will pay CPM 15.5 million. We should note that the meter designation actions we took Netted the city 26.2 million dollars in Revenue. Which we get to keep under this settlement agreement. To repeat for the meter designation claim. CPM claim of 322 million. City payout, a 15.5 million and revenue earned of 26.2 million. On the second dispute. Which I'll call the enforcement claim. CPM claimed, we owed them, approximately 36 million in compensation due to our alleged failure to effectively enforce the metered parking system as the concession agreement requires. CPM lost that climate arbitration, but then brought a new claim. Of 9 million. Under this settlement agreement. The city will pay CPM 0 on that, 9 million claim. I repeat, we pay zero dollars. We do commit to hiring 2, additional FTE, contracted staff. To do parking enforcement for 1 year. I'm informed by the controller's office that these staff bring in more Revenue than they cost the city and salaries and benefits. CPM. Also commits to sharing with the city. Data on a weekly basis. They got from their personnel writing parking tickets. this will allow for more efficient streamline enforcement by both the city and CPM to repeat for the enforcement claim. CPM claim of dollars. A city payout of zero dollars. A commitment by the city. For 10 additional FTE stacks. For parking enforcement. and a CPM commitment to share, enforcement related data with The city. On the third dispute. Which I'll call the co claim. CPM claimed, we owed them, 2 million dollars, for alleged losses, due to our directive to stop ticketing outside, the central business district for the duration of Governor pritzker's, stay-at-home order, The order was issued on, March 20th, 2020, and expired on June 2nd, 2020. An arbitration panel found that the city owed CPM $2 million on the co claim. The city, paid the $0 but began the appeal process in court, court, to reverse the arbitration, panel's decision, since we disagreed with it. under the settlement agreement, the city agrees to stop, its appeal process, To repeat for the coid claim. A CPM claim of dollars. The city payout of million dollars. And an N to the city's appeal efforts. for each of these 3 claims, the meter designation claim the enforcement claim and the coid claim The city has solidly legal arguments to support our position that we owed CPM nothing on any of these claims. but before we entered settlement, negotiations, we were facing furtherly further, legal proceedings. On these 3 claims We had already experienced adverse findings against us from an arbitration panel with respect to 2 of these claims. To avoid the risk and expense of further. Litigation on these claims we entered into settlement negotiations with CPM. And have reached settlement agreement, which is subject to your approval. to recap the settlement agreement provides 1 on the meter designation claim, a city payout of 15.5 million as against a CPM claim of 322 million with 26.2 million in earned Revenue which we get to keep 2 on the enforcement claim, a city payout of zero dollars. As against a CPM claim of 9 million. And commitments by CPM and the city, which will lead to better parking enforcement. And 3 on the coid claim resolution of that claim with the city, payout of $2 million as required by the arbitration panel to satisfy cpm's 2 million dollar claim. Our exposure with us, could be 322 million plus, 9 million plus, 2 million dollars. With this settlement, we'll have paid out, 15.5 million, plus 2 million. And we get to keep the 26.2 million we made under the meter. Designations A respectfully request, your approval of this settlement agreement and would be happy to respond to any questions, you may have on it. Thank you, Mr. MacDonald, before we get to questions, I want to acknowledge Alderman, Reilly and Alderman. Mitchell have joined us for uh the meeting. And we'll be counted towards Quorum. And Alderman, Bernett has requested to participate participate remotely under rule 59, 59, can I get a motion Quezada? So moves all those in favor, signify by saying I close in the opinion of the chair, the eyes, have it Alderman brunette. Vice mayor you with us. Okay. Moving along, Madam. Madam chair. This is Alderman Hall. Yes, we counted you Alderman, haul. Thank you so much. Thank you. Um, Alderman Vasquez. Thank you very much uh Cheryl win. Uh thank you for the presentation, Mr. MacDonald. Um, Rather than going to a full-on die, tribe of how we all hate the parking meter deal, which I'm sure we hear enough of and who voted for it. It sounds to me from what you're explaining, we come out ahead 8.7 million dollars on the with the so-called on the deal, we're paying out, um the 15.5 May 26.2 pushes at a 10.7, uh, ahead and then the other 2 million, which we had already paid out and aren't going to further appeal, puts us ahead at 8.7, which I think. Reasonably we appreciate just want to thank you for that. I think the question I've got related to the 2 full time positions that are part of the agreement. Um, What's the pay for the FTE positions? Do we know? if you don't mind, I'd like to refer that question to Chuck Billows, who is Morning, uh, Charles Billows. Deputy director Department of Finance, so they'll be 5 FTE. I'm sorry. 10 to the mic, please. There'll be 10 FTE which will be uh contracted staff. There are approximately cost of the city, is 52,000 a year. So I got a question because you said 2, is it 2 or 10? 10. If I said 2, that was a mistake. 10 full-time positions. What's the cost of that? Again, 52,000 a year per per per uh, and then I guess, Through the chair. Unless somebody from the controller's office is, here you mentioned those positions, actually? Bringing in Revenue. What does that look like in comparison to the cost? Uh, each FTE. Will net the city about 490,000? Okay. Um, what hours are they working? As far as those particular FTE because I know, sometimes we're asking for evening weekend hours. What does that look like? Uh these these specific FTE will be in coordination with CPM uh on where we're going to assign them. Okay, is there anything that you could provide you to do to share talking through? Hours parts of the city what that all looks like as far as what they're covering. Um, I think it's the reason why I'm asking for all this is every single year we bring up want to have more parking enforcement because it's always ways to bring revenue. And so the fact that this was the way to get 10 as opposed to what we bring up every year is a bit frustrating. So I'd like to find out, you know what those terms are. Can that be shared through the chair? Yes. Okay. so we're looking at, About another half a million. They were paying for those 10. Which still puts us ahead about 8.2. Um okay so sorry. Just wanted to make sure I got my math. Right. I think this makes sense and why I'd be support but I do think we need more specificity in those terms up front. And if we are going to get ourselves in a position where the only way we get extra people to enforce parking is getting sued. Uh, maybe we need to have better conversations during budget. Uh, thank you very much. Thank you. And I'm informed, I misspoke earlier when I apparently, I said 2 ft positions. I should have said 10. Thank you, apologize, for that mistake. Alderman, Mosley is joined us and we'll be counted towards Quorum Alderman, Quezada. Um, yes I have some questions about um like what have we learned from uh this settlement, you know, situation um can help us, you know, avoid future settlements. Uh in this in this regard, you know, I guess ask some questions around. Did the previous administration have Clarity on what the risk of legal action would be, by taking that policy of known forcement? Uh, during the pandemic. Um, you know, there there's a part of me that is sympathetic to that policy for for not enforcing, you know, people who are struggling, people who are losing their jobs. Um, but if we're going to be in this, you know, this deal until 2083, God forbid, we have another pandemic, God forbid, there's something that prevents people from paying their parking meter. What's going to prevent us from, you know, this you know company from suing us. For any time. Do we take action? Do we have any framework or guidelines? Uh for how we can avoid these kind of settlements in the future? We always try to learn from our experience. As I said, in my earlier, testimony Each time we did these actions we thought we had very good legal arguments on our favor, right? And unfortunately the arbitration panel found against us on 2 of the 3 clients. We clearly will take and we know that CPM. Is very aggressive in defending what they consider to be their rights under the contract. So it is something we will be, I can't promise what's going to happen in the future. The contract expires in 2084 but I would imagine uh, while I'm here and my successors, I'll take into account. the experience of the last several years, we've had because this is not the kind of Arrangement. You want to have with a long-term concession here. You want this? We need to work collaboratively with them cooperatively. To have a effective a parking system. But we did think at the time we were well within our rights with what we did. Right. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you Alderman. Uh, Alderman laspada, followed by Alderman wages back. Thank you very much chair. Um, I apologize for having missed this part of the settlement briefing but can you explain to us What parking meter designation means to the extent that you can within chamber. Sure. I'll try to be clear and correct me if I'm not Meteor designations refer to. the way the contractor structured, We have certain metered spaces that are considered to be concession spaces and others that are called reserved spaces. The way the contract. Defines these 2 concession spaces or spaces in which CPM gets 100% of the revenue. Reserve Spaces by contrast, the city gets 85% of the revenue. CPM gets 15% plus a small rental fee. The city has the right under the contract to designate spaces as Reserve or as concession and to change those designations from time to time. The city. When the city changes, a designation from concession to reserve. We're a decreasing, the value of the system to CPM and we have to pay them compensation. This is the city, conversely changes, the designation from Reserve to concession. We're increasing the value of the compensation of the value of the system rather to CPM and they get and we get a credit for that. To process is called the true up. The what the city did in late 2011? Was to change certain concession spaces to reserve. When we when we, as I said, when we change concession to reserve we're taking value out of the system for CPM. How do you value a system space? You look at how its utilization is. but you don't change that utilization on the on our books, every week or every month, you change it, once a year, So, the system's books. Show utilization from the prior year. so in 2021, we realized that During 2020, utilization systemwide had dropped because of the pandemic. And it was increasing again in 2021 as things were reopening. So we realized that we could take spaces out, change them from from concession to reserve at their lower 2020 values. and then put them back 2 months later when you put them back at from Reserve to concession you put them back at their current values which were higher So, we were able to take them out and have to pay CPM about million dollars for doing that. But later put back 2 thirds of them and get a credit. Above 10 million because we are putting them back at a higher value. CPM was very unhappy with our ticking Spa Revenue. They were getting and converting it to City Revenue. We had looked at and said we're within our rights. This is the way the rules work. And we are legally entitled to do that. CPM claimed, it was what's contracts called a reserved adverse action that had a material adverse effect on the fair market. Value of the system. We said we did not think taking 8 to 10 million out from A system that at that time was making them 120 million a year was material. So it was not a material adverse effect and therefore we did not owe them compensation. The arbitration panel decided that we had. Oh, uh, owed them compensation and it left the amount of the compensation that CPM claimed was 322 million. An arbitration panel agreed with us. said, the contract provides that if there is material adverse effect, The amount of the compensation is to be decided by an appraiser. So after the arbitration award, the CPM in the city, Tried to negotiate, who would be the appraiser? And perhaps unsurprisingly CPM, wasn't agreeing with us. And we got into an impact. And CPM said we're going to go back to arbitration over how to select the appraiser. We and CPM at that point decide to, maybe we should try to settle all these claims as opposed to continuing more arbitration. And we settled that claim for 15.5 million as part of the settlement. Thank you for that. I feel like that's a very thorough explanation at some point that is not right now. I would like to understand the concession versus Reserve, sure process and how we make those designations, particularly understanding the the notification process internally on that. Uh, but I will reach out for more information at a later date. I appreciate that. I did have 1 question, uh, following up on almond vasquez's comments on the parking enforcement AIDS. And I feel like this was Answered. But I just want to confirm it. sure can I go parking meters LC will not be making the determination of where these parking enforcement AIDS are are sent that will be made at the discussion of Finance. Is that accurate? Charles Bose. Deputy director. Yes that's accurate. Well, it'll be in collaboration with them. With CPM. Okay, I because I know that there's a lot anyone in this room could talk about where their neighbors would like to see more enforcement activity. I would prefer not to see. This company for many reasons, being 1, the 1 design where that enforcement action is happening. So thank you. Thank you chair. Thank you. Aldo in the spot. And I do encourage the point that you made about, uh, afterwards getting an understanding of the true up process is something that, uh, you should talk to Jim about. He's got a lot of information about this. I appreciate the time that you took to explain it to me. And if I could just follow up on your point and what Chuck delos was saying, we've agreed to work with CPM but they have no control over where we put our enforcement Personnel, that is a city decision. It makes sense to collaborate with them because they have enforcement personnel as well. We want an efficient enforcement system, but enforcement is definitely the city's prerogative. CPM has no contract rights to tell us where a personnel must be. Thank you. We'll go to Alderman waguespack, followed by Alderman Lopez. Thank you chairman. Um, And thank You, Chuck, and Jim for the explanation on these on this item. Um, you know, I think this is sort of the first win in a series of losses, over the last decade and a half on this deal even though it doesn't feel like a win and we're still losing money on it, um, but I am in favor of the settlement, you know, the, um, I think the initial attempt to make these changes during the pandemic was important. And as, uh, Jim McDonald said we were well within our rights, uh, by the way, I read the agreement and the arbitration, uh, documents, um, The initial demand I think was 322 million if I'm not mistaken. So, Overall for this. Um, so bringing it down to 15 and Kind of going through it as Jim McDonald did. As important to understand how complicated this deal was from day 1 and how it continues to be complicated. It's it's really uh, you know, looking at the arbitrators, uh, discussion and agreement in it, um, or disagreements with the city's position. Um, it's very frustrating to read that document and see um essentially how Ironclad this deal is and how uh, legal Minds, look at it in favor of CPM. Uh, pretty much no matter what happens. So um, You know it it just shows that it's such an ironclad deal. It's so tight that it exceeds the death and destruction of a pandemic and that nothing that when you look at a uh what caused there is for changes, what could lead to termination of a deal? That even a pandemic of the type that we had a once in a once in a century couldn't break it. Uh, open in any way. So I just want to say it's uh it's laudable what uh Chuck in this case today. And and Jim have done all the people that worked at law and finance to really uh, push back on this. Um, when you look at the overall amount of money that this company is going to rake in, it'll be 2 billion this year, I believe it's 2 billion this year. um, and it was as a couple of us said, you know, a few years back, we would be looking at 5 to 10 billion in revenue for this company, uh, at a time when we were Uh, obviously in Dire Straits financially but we rushed through a deal. Um, that wasn't fully open wasn't fully transparent. And should have been shelved. But what we can learn from this is not to repeat this kind of deal. Uh again uh in this term or any term in the future. So every deal that comes before us ladies and gentlemen has to be open and transparent it has to be vetted and if it's not fully so then it should be shelved. Um otherwise we lead ourselves into a situation like this again. Where again this is our first win in a series of losses on this deal and it still doesn't feel like a win. So um, with that I'm still in favor of the settlement and appreciate your approach to trying to tackle this issue. Mr. MacDonald and swissy. Thank you Alderman wag his back. Thank you, Cheryl, 1, Alderman Lopez. And we will count all the men. Oh Shay towards quorum. Good morning, chairman and members of the committee. I just have a couple real quick questions. Um, First. uh, I do commend the department, uh, on The price of this settlement, I hate the idea of giving them money, as many of my colleagues. Uh, but knowing what they originally wanted and where we're ending up. I think is a win for Chicago. Um, it was noted that the settlement was brought in part because of the loss of revenue from the stay-at-home order. Do we know if This LLC applied for uh any of the PPP loans or any of the those federally approved, uh, measures that were designed to help keep businesses afloat for the pandemic. I have asked that question of cpm's general counsel and he is informed me. They did not apply for any of the pandemic. Relief programs. So they willingly took a loss. Not Choosing not to apply for anything that would mitigate their revenue losses and are now coming to the city of Chicago to recoup that loss. Is that a fair assessment? They've made certain assertions, that the arbitration panel found in their favor. Weather. They actually lost the amount of money they claimed. It's not something, the city agrees with. if you look at how they calculated it, I think it's subject their methodology for calculating their alleged loss. Is subject to argument, but we did argue it and we lost that at the arbitration. yeah, I'm looking at their annual Audits and when you look on page 4 of their both for 2020 2021 and then 2021 and 2022. You know, you see and happy to provide this to my colleagues or through the chair where obviously in 2020 they show that their net income. Um, was a negative -20 million. Uh, in 2020. um, even despite generating 91 million dollars in revenue and then the following year in 2021 uh, they generated 136 million dollars in revenue and some of that I guess from their Accounting. Standards is based on estimates. But again, my question is and I understand how you're answering, but I'm just going to say this part out loud is that, you know, every business out there In all our Awards, all our communities, even the city of Chicago is government itself. Availed themselves of both PPP as well as arpa 1 and 2 for loss of Revenue. Um, the fact that they chose not to Uh that they chose to instead wait until the taxpayers had to come up with the money. Um is a is an unfortunate tactic that our vendor chose to take. And I think that um, all of Chicago needs to know that these are not people who have our interests in heart, who willingly are trying to stick it to us at every turn. And I think that as we move forward, even knowing that we have decades to go, you know, when you look at all of the ancillary things that they are taking money on, it's not just the cost of parking. The fact that they generate almost. 8 million dollars a year just on credit card fee processing through this. Is something that I think we also need to start taking looks at. Um, and I would challenge my colleagues to figure out what ways we can. Not necessarily renegotiate but hold them to the standard that they want to hold us to because if they're going to look at us as their proverbial Cash Cow, then perhaps we should start looking at the same. Thank you chairman. Thank. Thank you Alderman, Lopez. S good point there Alderman. Ervin. Thank you, uh, Madam chair. Uh, just a couple of questions. Will this settlement that uh been done? Will we be able to pay that using arpa money since this was kind of an arpa deal? So are you asking whether or not this would be arpa eligible? Yes. Yeah, I you can look at it that way. I'll have to get back to you through the chair with that. I have not thought about it or as a source. Okay? No, that's that's fair. Uh, and and secondly, what did what did the um, Like the cost of I guess the legal fees or the cost of arbitration in this matter. What what did that cost us? The city is paid out, 7.2 million dollars in legal fees. Um, this On all 3 claims on all on all 3 claims. Okay. I don't have the I think that includes the arbitrator's fees as well but I don't have to check. Okay. And I, I guess the question is like, um, and I'll go back to all the vascular, so we picked up 26 million. So a theoretically this is almost a wash. In theory, when we had the legal fees in and the, uh, settlement revenue and uh, everything at the end of the day, is a pretty much a wash is, is that a fair statement? Couple million here and there if you consider that a wash, yes. Definitely not. What's in there a uh a statement of million here, a million there pretty soon. We'll be talking about real money. Uh I I don't I don't know where that statement came from, but be that as it may, um, I I always get always get cautious and I always questioned these um, running up the tab on the legal side because that's because that's kind of like a cost that we generally don't talk about and that we that we don't see now, granted, uh, we do have a 15 million dollar settlement, but, you know, to spend 7 and a half million dollars to get there is is, is is a bit challenging and, and I guess I'll go back to the original assertion is like, who made this decision in the first place, like suggested that we make this move, um, to do this and like, are there any other uh, for a lack of a better term ticking time, bombs that exist for decisions that we're not, we think might be correct, but the other side may say hey hold up this we don't agree with you on this and there hasn't there's a potential Financial exposure on on such decisions. Being made, I might just to clarify you're talking about the meter designation claim. In particular are all 3 claims I'm talking about the meter designation in particular but there are Positions that are taken outside of this particular. It's and it's more of a risk management question um, as to Interpretations and what the financial exposure potentially is on these interpretations or aggressive positions that we may take uh not just today but have taken or potentially be ticking time bombs in our portfolio for the fact that we have taken a position that 1 may not that that the other side may think different too. Are there any others like this is? Is ultimately my question I understand to my knowledge there isn't anything else. The meter designation claim? As I tried to alert to, in my earlier description, was due to the effect that the pandemic had and lowering utilization across the board and then springing back prior to the pandemic. Utilization had had, I'm told been fairly stable across the system. So the ability to say I will remove concessions spaces at a lower value and put them back 2 months later at a higher value. Doesn't exist. If utilization stays stable. And I'm not aware. So it's not unless we have something like that again. It's not likely that the city would contemplate doing that. And to answer, I think 1 of the questions you had asked, who made the decision to do this. It was done by the Department of Finance Consulting with the mayor at the time and Consulting with the law Department. So, I was involved in thinking about this decision. And evaluating, whether whether we were were within our rights legally to do. So, and I had determined that I thought we were under the contract. Business decision was then made as to whether or not to take the risk of a lawsuit. Because we fully expected CPM would potentially assert, bring an arbitration dispute. Because of it. Um, I I'll I'll I'll well let me just ask as hell. Um, we had to do this all over again when we have taken the same position, do you feel the position that we took? Then was the right position based on everything that occurred and again these are Decisions that are that we that we make, but again have potentially adverse impacts, um, you know, down the road or are we I, I guess from a risk management process for, uh, From a risk management, uh, issue. How do we evaluate? Is there a standard framework? Is there? A Um a way that we look at this or is this just a purely 1-off situation that we should never see again? I frankly, I don't think it's likely. We're going to see this sort of situation again. Um, we do. Learn from from our experiences and 1 of the things I've definitely have learned is that arbitration panels may not make decisions. That at least as I read the contract and I understand the law, I would agree with and that is a risk. That you run when you potentially face an arbitration. Can, can I ask you a question? Another way alderman? so, the meter designation looks like the enforcement claim. Both parties are pretty much in agreement on on that. And the meter designation claim in the true up is something that both parties agree. This is the process. But are you all thinking about? And I think this goes back to all them and khazad question about if there is another Pandemic, or any other. Emergency. Are you already talking about? How to anticipate if that happens again. Not to my knowledge. I'm I'm I'm done. Thank you. Madam chair, Alderman. Reilly Thank you, madam chair. Um, and and thank you for, for the detailed explanation for this uh, quandry that we're in yet again with the parking meter company. um, So something that stuck with me is something uh, automate Urban just mentioned in his remarks and that is uh, he said we make these decisions. But did we? Um, this body certainly made the bad decision based on a lot of false information and misrepresentation to approve this meter deal many years ago um and I think had this body been afforded more time. And frankly had received answers to many of the questions we had asked. Um, and especially in an honest fashion, we probably wouldn't have had this deal. Um, and ottoman wages back is, right. I think you've done as best as you possibly can here to mitigate this, um, but I do want to understand A bit more about the decision-making process that went into. Trying to be creative as CPM. Certainly is at every turn to try and maximize any kind of value out of this deal for the city and and trying to do this Arbitrage of the, uh, concession meters versus Reserve meters. I I like credit you for making the account, but obviously, as you noted in your remarks Council, um, you went into this understanding, there would be some risk because CPM is litigious. and, uh, I know that you had conversations with budget and finance and certainly within your Law Department to discuss that risk and, and, and weigh the benefits versus the, the cost, um, Did you seek outside counsel and third-party opinions to validate what you thought was correct? That, that city was within its right, um, to engage in that. Um, That kind of swapping, of, of meter designations. Or was it simply an internal discussion amongst a city employees? I'd have to check the records. We may have consulted, um, cat and mutin the outside firm. That drafted the concession agreement. Huh? Uh you may, we may have sought the Council of the folks at crafted this horrible deal. I'd have to check the record. Okay, that's not that's not an answer. I would say that's probably the last Law Firm. We'd want to approach for legal advice on a contract. That's been killing taxpayers for for quite some time now. Through the chair. If you could, uh, any outside, legal opinions, we obtained before we entered into this risky, maneuver would be helpful. Um, and, you know, when it was decided to go ahead with this, Um, who ultimately made that decision to execute this this plan? The mayor the mayor and uh I there wasn't a legislative process built around, that was there. No, there was not, there was not. So that was essentially a unilateral decision by the mayor. Correct. It's a a decision by the executive branch, which basically makes those decisions. Okay, so I guess I got my answer, okay? Um, and to automate Lopez's point about the arpa money, I I do strongly encourage this Administration to look very carefully at remaining arpa funds to be dedicated to pay for this. Um, it certain seems like it would be an eligible cost. um, I think also it'd be very helpful because, um, it's acknowledged here that maybe some of the newer members especially aren't familiar with the intricacies of the true up process that perhaps through the chair. Um, Department of Finance could provide a heat map and list of the locations of concession. Um, uh, spaces versus Reserve spaces, and I think it would be, um, eliminating Madam chair for our colleagues to take a look at that map, um, because as was noted, this contract rewards the city. For creating new reserved spaces. Um, those are Revenue producing spaces for us for the taxpayer. And there are large swaths of this city. That still to this day have totally unregulated parking and and lots and lots of it and we're not talking miles from the central business district. We're talking about in the outer fringes of it. And I can tell you as, as I think the 34th Ward and 42nd Ward have borne the Brunt. Of meter ads over the last several years. And I'm, I'm, I guarantee you the city's data will prove that. um, downtown has been bearing the brunt of of this burden. And it's time I think for our colleagues. To take a look at what they can do to assist in this effort. Uh, I'm not saying removing residential permit parking zones that that benefit residents, but there are many, many, many commercial quarters in this city. That are still not being regulated at the way we see in the central business district. And I think if we saw that change, that would be a way to add some value for the Chicago taxpayer. Not CPM. Um and so I just want to explore that more. Um, as we're heading into a difficult budget season, I think the lesson of the the settlement and this 10 full-time employees That need to work in in tandem with CPM, is a good reminder. Um, that what many of us have been talking about every single budget season myself for 17 of them, Is about how good consistent enforcement. More than pays for itself. The cost of these of these full-time enforcement AIDS. Roughly thousand dollars a year. when we know that they're going to produce a 10 time multiplier in Revenue to the city, That's really easy math and and this is not some bright idea. I had many of us have called for this including the chair. Um, and so we need to really look at that. Not just when it comes to parking meters, there's a whole lot of the city code that this body takes a lot of time writing and passing into laws, that is not informed. And those codes are on the books for good reason. And so I'm talking to people like business Affairs right-of-way. Inspections, these are the folks, we need to really look at the amount of abuses that our on the right of way, throughout the city on a day in Dale, ba basis is, is staggering And so, we really need to look at that. Never mind the the the added benefit of infor enforcing the code even in the smallest levels is like the broken windows approach to crime fighting. when you tolerate lots of minor infractions, people graduate, that's not just unique to crime. Uh, it's also too bad behavior when it comes to permitting and Licensing and the right of way in general. um and so you know again I want to um give you the credit that's due for for managing This massive. Disaster of a deal. Um, and in this latest round of legal proceedings, um, it's incredibly frustrating that we're here at all. Um, but we do we we need to look at how we can exploit this contract in in the smallest ways. To add more revenue for the taxpayer to frankly, help to fray, the massive cost of this horrible, horrible deal. that frankly, the city council was sold a bill of goods on Um, so uh, thank you chair. If we could through your though, uh and hopefully all members of the committee and the council get that heat map and and list of of stalls of of stalls that I think would be very, very helpful. We could do that. Um, just to give you a piece of information. Um, Walter Bernett Alderman. Bernette, vice mayor, Bernett has more of those parking meters than you and Conway combined, no way. Yes. When did that happen? Thank you Walter. all right, um, Alderman, CEO Lopez. thank you, chairwoman and um, I was I was not planning to speak, a lot of the comments already and questions have been made, but I do want to, um, uplift, I think the importance of consistency in the council because these contracts, um, are costly to the taxpayer, I want to. If anything, thank Alderman, wages. Back, who actually was 1 of the 5 votes that actually voted against this deal to begin with. So I just find it inappropriate for members of the council who actually voted in favor of this contract to now blame a new Administration he is dealing with this issue. and I know it is uncomfortable, some some members want to deviate the attention But, I hope that they pay attention when we speak that this costly contracts. Are really are are really hard to overcome. I would like to suggest that the city council. Looking some sort of task force of these members of the finance committee to look at what, what can be done because these contracts. Once they sign have handcuffed the city of Chicago. For the many decades to come. So, I just want to elevate that because I just find it problematic to even mention. The previous that this Administration is to blame on something that we inherited. I do think a chairwoman and I would like to ask if we could have a task force I would like to analyze this. So in the future when a potential of reduction of a settlement, I do thank you chairwoman for making sure that this is a much lesser amount but systemically discontinued to be an issue. I will continue to be an issue in a time with the city is really struggling to balance the budget. I do would like to ask everything that's been said, if the, if the committee can have a task force to discuss with law and your committee on ways to address this contract, this is a horrible deal for the city of Chicago. I do, welcome the attempts to make this a lesser pain. But I do want to ask our colleagues to be a little bit more, uh a a little less cynical when we talk about, who is to blame, when those people who voted for this budget, however, for this contract, thank you. Thank you. Uh, seeing no more questions. Uh, can I get a motion? Moved to pass on this. So moved by Alderman Rodriguez. All those in favor, signify by saying I opposed and the opinion of the chair of the eyes, have it and Mr. MacDonald, I said this in the media but I want to say it here publicly. I think that the law department and the finance department and the mayor's office, did a excellent job in making this a more satisfactory outcome for the taxpayers. In this case, thank you. Thank you. Um, moving on to item 3B Rihanna Keys versus City of Chicago case number 22 L 1158 in the amount of 5 million dollars. This case will be uh, reported out to us, by Margaret, mendenhal Casey, from the Law Department. Thank you, chair. On February 8th of 2021 Brianna Keys, who was then 34 years old became locked out of her house. An inch of previously, fallen snow, cover the ground. And the temperature was 5 degrees above zero. Please interact with Brianna and observed her wearing a bathrobe and no shoes after the encounter Brianna continued walking and arrived at a police station an hour later. An officer admitted that the decision not to do more to intervene was based on a mistaken. Belief that a police station was a block away. In fact, the station was half a mile away. Bana suffered frostbite and eventually both of her legs were amputated below the knee. Brianna alleges the officer's violated CPD orders when they they failed to transport her and fail, to obtain medical assistance, the Department of Law recommends, settlements in the amount of 5 million dollars, Around 2 a.m. bana became locked out of her home at 51st in Aberdine. She was wearing a bathrobe and sandals bana is bipolar and was off her medication at that time, Brianna called 9111 and requested assistance. The dispatcher told bana that City personnel, do not respond to lockouts Banna did not tell the dispatcher that she was having a mental health crisis. Brianna plead with the dispatcher for assistance and told the dispatcher that she was going to die in the cold. Bana told the dispatcher her car was running and the dispatcher instructed her to get inside. After calling her mother and sister multiple times with them, not answering Brianna became frustrated through her phone into the snow and lost her phone. Brianna then decided to walk to the police station at 51st in Wentworth, which was about 1.4 miles and 30 minutes away. On her journey Brianna knocked on Rose. Sanchez Sanchez's door, which was half a mile away from her home She told Rose she was locked out Brianna used Rose's phone to call her mother and sister and again they did not answer Brianna left. Rose call, 911 and officer slider. And Martinez were dispatched Rose to the officers that she did not know Brianna but Brianna suggested that they go to Africa together. As officer swidar walked back to his car. He then uttered, Huh? That's crazy. He testified that he was referring to the comments. About Africa, body 1, camera, captures the officer's interactions with rose. Officers white Arc and Martinez found Rihanna 5 minutes after leaving Rose's home. There is conflicting, testimony about the encounter and body worn camera. Only captures the end of the interaction. The officers testify that they had a normal conversation with Brianna leading them to believe. She was not mentally ill, and had only been locked out of her house. Officer suite and Martinez testified that bana declined, their offer to call an ambulance driver to her mother's house or provide a ride to the police station bana. Testifies, at the officer refused to give her a ride to the station. Uh, stating she couldn't be in the car unless she was under arrest. The following points are objectively verifiable from the body worn. Camera number 1, officer Martinez called bana's mother. Number 2 Brianna is wearing a bathrobe in no shoes 3. At the end of the encounter bana stated because you guys won't help, I'll walk to the police station myself and for the officers chuckled slightly saying they would code the incident as a client Police Services after bana left. The remaining distance to the police station was half a mile. However, the officers believed the station was only a block away. Officer Martinez admitted that the decision not to do more was based on a mistake and belief that the station was closer and that had he known the actual distance, he would have more strongly encouraged bana to enter their vehicle. She arrived at the police station about an hour after speaking with officers and 3 hours after calling 911. Responding paramedics known to Brianna was acting bizarre and suffering from a psychiatric disorder, after being diagnosed with a frostbite at St. Bernard's Brianna was in transferred to Advocate Christ for a psychiatric evaluation at Advocate. Doctors treated bana's wombs as well as her psychiatric condition Brianna was in transferred to Cook County, Burn Unit, intensive care on February, 22nd of 21. The doctor did amputate both the bana's legs below the knee. On March 4th Rihanna was discharged to inpatient facility at rush. And then upon discharge on March 13th. She could independently transfer from her wheelchair to the bed in April, Brianna use a wheelchair or crawl to get around. She required assistance with cooking and cleaning but could bathe and get dressed independently. Finally, in July, she was wearing prosthesis a few hours a day and October. Um she noted experiencing Phantom limb pain, which is a common condition where um a patient who has gone through an amputation, feels pain in the limb that is no longer there. She also was walking with her prosthesis had a chair lift and Aid, assisted her 4 hours a day. planus police procedures expert argues that the officers violated CPD orders by failing to call an ambulance trait, uh, transport Beyond into a warm location or take her to the hospital on an involuntary basis. The expert relies on the individuals, in crisis and involuntary admission orders to form his opinion. The individuals in crisis order States officers will make necessary referrals or follow the involuntary admission order when encountering a person unable to take reasonable care for their welfare including clothing. Plaintiffs police expert opinions at the officer's violated, the involuntary admission order as well. That order requires officers to take a person into custody and transport them to a mental health facility when officers have reasonable grounds to believe. The person is in need of mental health, evaluation to protect themselves. The city's police expert opinions, that the officers complied with CPD orders. And that the officers May necessarily referrals pursuant to the general orders by offering a ride and ambulance or, uh, to take her to her mother's house. Plaintiff's, economic experts opine that Brianna will has 3.5 million in past and future medical bills as well as $1 million in past and future lost wages. Plaintiff's, future Medical Care will cost 2.1 million therefore they're between 4.5 million. If you believe the plaintiff expert account or 3.5 million, if you believe the city's experts account in economic damages, in the record prior to this incident, Rihanna was a driver for Uber. Currently, she is working part-time. Um, as a receptionist Fielding M maintenance calls for an apartment Initially the plane of demand is 22 million. If this matter were to proceed to trial, bana would seek compensation for her past and future pain and suffering past and future emotional distress past and future loss of normal life past past and future medical bills past, and future lost wages. As well as seeking a significant amount for disfigurement, the Department of Law recommends, settlement, in the amount of million dollars on this matter. Thank you, Margaret. Alderman Lopez. Thank you again, chairman and good morning, still members of the committee. so, When the police encountered her, they did offer her Services. That's what I heard, correct. Sure. There's conflicting testimony in the record. The police state that they offered her Services bana states that the police. Uh only said that they would put her or that they could not put her in the car because she was not in custody. And then we have body warn camera but unfortunately it only only captures the tail end of the interaction where bana essentially, I'll walk to the police station because you are not going to help me but they did call her family. That is accurate. They did call her family and she called her family. That's accurate and did she ever make contact with her family know, and she's suing them for this? As well. I don't know what legal Duty, her um, family members would have to answer the phone giving that she is. Um, 34 years old, it was 34 years old at the time of this incident And you stated that she is. Suffers from bipolar disorder. That's accurate. And was she on her medication at that time? No, she was off her medication and she was um going through a mental health crisis at the time of this incident. That was not announced to anybody, correct? We when you say not announced to anybody, I'm sorry. What do you mean by that? As in, you you mentioned when she called 911, she didn't say. So she didn't mention that. She said, said anything to the police at that time, that she suffered from mental health issues, just that there's a conflict on whether or not they did, or did not offer services, which our police officers say they did and she refused and she said, they did not correct. Um so there were a number of questions there. I apologize. I didn't understand the initial 1. Yes that is correct. That Brianna Keys did not tell the dispatchers and did not tell police officers that she was experiencing a mental health episode. Um as to the second part of the question, the officers are officers do testify that they Offered services to bana. Um, the way that I think about about this case is that um the plaintiff will argue that the real Crux of it is seeing that video with her outside in a robe and no shoes. Um, as well as officer Martinez stating that if he knew that the station was half a mile away, he would have done more to encourage her to get into the car. So even you know, if you take the officers, um, Testimony and say the jury were to find that the testimony is accurate, that still does not get us past the fact that she was seen outside in a row, you know, shoes, 5 degrees, um, above zero. And the officers were mistaken about the location of the police station and I'm sorry what? What's office for Martinez which officer Martinez Um, you'd like his first name. Yes. Okay, it's Christian Martinez. Okay. And is he from the 7th District? Or is he from the 9th District? Sure? So give me 1. Second, I have that answer, but not off the top of my head. And Margaret you might want to just inform the ultimate about how long these officers have been working in the district, they were in, thank you, shared all. So, as to officer swider, he had been working for um in this district for less than a month before the incident. As to officer Martinez, he had been working in this particular district for 3 to 4, working days before the incident. Um, so these officers were new to the district. Thank you. Thank you, Alderman, Vice chair Conway. Just as a, as a clarification. So Did. The officer offer her a ride and she refused or the officer said she couldn't get in the car cuz she was in custody. I just didn't understand, which way that sure. So, the officers testify that they offered her a ride, um, and they offered to take her to the hospital or to call an ambulance ambulance, and that Brianna refused Brianna testifies that officers said she was not allowed to get into their car. Uh, as she was not under arrest in terms of the objective evidence that we have it captures, unfortunately, only the tail end of the interaction and it says the the conversation essentially is um, I'm going to walk. Brianna said I'm going to walk to the police station and the officer say, okay, are you sure bana then says yeah, I'm going to walk because you guys won't assist me. Then you can Here the officer's, chuckling slightly and saying they're going to code this matter as decline Police Services. That's all I got. Thank you. Thank you, Vice chair, Alderman, Vasquez, followed by Alderman spaz. Uh, thank you, madam chair. And thank you for uh, this conversation. I guess this was going to start at the point of musical. Cheers. Today. First shift. Then you're there. Now, you're over there. Okay. I I apologize. Um, I was gonna ask this at the point of clarification, but it's appreciate. Are there is there? There's not a precedent. Sir. I'm on the microphone. Jesus. Okay. All right. So I guess my question is this? There's not an expectation or anywhere. Any expectation to offer someone to be able to self-identify as having a mental health issue, right? Meaning, if we have somebody asking hey did this person let the officer know that they had a mental health issue. First 1 would have to know they're going through a mental health health issue to then declare they're having a mental health issue. So the question itself is pretty interesting if I put it nicely sure. Um, so I think I will turn to the general orders in, in response to that question and state that the, the plaintiffs will argue that the general orders required, the officers to be aware of those in um, a mental mental health crisis and to look for, uh, cues or maybe engage in issues spotting, as we'd say as lawyers. in that issue, spotting in this case, being Outside in the cold Road, no shoes 5 degrees above an inch of snow on the ground. That the orders say, the officers supposed to be looking out for those type of cues including inappropriate clothing. Yeah like if if I'm not even as an officer driving around somewhere as in as as an older person, we're driving around the ward. It's you know 5 degrees. You see somebody out there with a robe? No shoes on. I'm not going to pull over and go. Are you going to a mental health issue? If they say no, I'm going to keep it moving. There's an assessment, especially if you're dealing with Public Safety that you want, this person to be safe, and you're going to figure out, we need to, to make sure that they are right, that just Cod or not job or not, that's just human decency. And so in hearing, kind of, if I was playing out, um, it seems pretty clear-cut. And for those who might find it challenging I have a lot of questions now, I really do appreciate you kind of articulating what's on the body cam because even that small piece is very clarifying, right? If she's saying, well, I'm going to walk on my own because you guys won't help me. that says a lot about what the conversation before might have been and then for the officers to chuckle at somebody out in the cold, Again, a woman out in the cold in a robe, no shoes on. This is a no-brainer and so I just wanted to make sure there were there were all hearing the same responses. Um, It's the right thing to do in officers. Have a duty to make sure the public is safe. This woman was not safe in that position and they're the step to take. That was not taken and feels to me from even the body. Cam footage was refused in some regard and so I'll be voting in support of the settlement. Uh, thank you very much. Thank you Alderman, Alderman. Best, uh, spado followed by Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you Maggie. Uh, This is a terrible, terrible incident. I hate to refer to it as a perfect storm, but it was appears to be the perfect storm. So a lot of things I didn't understand. So she's a troubled woman or a bipolar woman, young woman and really didn't understand why she wasn't living with her family. If she was With that was that troubled? I mean, if that was my kid, my my kid would be living with me. Um I know I mentioned the 2 cops that were new to the district, but they were new to the job period. Correct. Then they both have less than a year and a half. So this incident occurred in February of 2021 and both officers began um, service with the police department in July of 2019. Um, so yeah, less than 2 years on on the job, okay? So 1 of the confusing things to me was she had a running car out there but she was walking. I mean, I I I don't understand actually your car's running, but yeah, you decide you're going to walk, but the police did offer her a ride. She refused it for a reason. Correct. She was afraid they were going to do harm to her if they she wanted a car with them. So there are a couple of questions. So um prior earlier on in the interaction, Banna did note to the 911 dispatcher that she had a fear of police um in terms of the running car. Yes, there's testimony in the record that there was a car that was running. Um I agree with you, her not getting into it does not make sense. Um, we are dealing with somebody who uh, is is bipolar and was all her medication and in the midst of a mental health crisis. Um, I'm sorry, I think there was a third question in there that I may have missed. I don't know. Maybe I'll remember it. Point of clarification Alderman Vasquez, sorry? Yeah. The pointer for clarification on third part was the assertion that she refused to accept help which I believe. Was it clarified by? Yes, thank you. Uh, for your freshman, my recollection Alderman, Vasquez, as to the third question that is where there's conflicting evidence in the record. Um, the police say that she refused uh assistance and refused a ride bana says that the police refused to help her and then the only objective evidence we have captured on body. Warn camera is bana saying, you know, you guys aren't going to help me. I'll walk to the police station and the officer's coding. It as declined police services. So there is some conflicting testimony in the record but what's not conflicting is as as I've said a number of times, just the cold how she was dressed. Um, that information that evidence is not conflicting. Okay, so see, there was never any incident that she refused to go to police because there's Raider going to do harm to her. Not to the dispatch or anything like that. There was that was that she did know she did indicate to the dispatcher that she had a fear of of police earlier on. And I'm happy to flush that out a little bit more. Um, at the beginning of her night outside around 2:00, am Brianna did call the dispatch. Atcher and bana during the course of that. Interaction told the dispatcher. I'm, um, going to break into my house to inside. And the dispatcher said, okay, I'll notify the police that you're doing that and then bana says, no, don't tell the police, I'm afraid that they're going to shoot me because I am black. So bana, uh, did articulate that night, a fear of police officers. So, is that white or dispatched there? Because the, the, the, the, the, uh, 911. Because I'm not, I'm really not sure why the police were dispatched and not the fire department, but I'm happy to go through the chronology. Um, again, kind of at a high level so Brianna calls 911. Um, she gets off the phone with 9111 and begins to walk to her neighbor's house known police. No, fire are dispatched after the 9111 call bana walks to Rose's house, a half of a mile away now. Some roses door. Um bana then leaves Rose calls 911 and at that point in time that's when the officers are dispatched and they find bana about 5 minutes after they interact with rose, leave Rose's house, go and look for baena and find her 5 minutes later. We keep hearing a half mile and it was, was the The Stranger. Half mile. By the way, the rose was a stranger. Uh, she's an, I wish I could thank that, lady, for opening the door. Trying to help somebody if you're listening. Rosa. Nice job. Um, but um, so what was it? What was the half? Mile away. A police station or Rose's house? So there's a couple of half miles. The end of then after Rose is out, she was half a mile away to from the police station, so that that's not adding up to me. Sure. So I'm happy to give you a little bit more information as well about the distances and play here. So bana walked to Rose's house, which was about half a mile away from bana's home at 51st and um, Aberdine and in terms of distance this morning and a half mile, So from 51st in Aberdine to 51st and Wentworth know oh oh no I apologize. So from bana's home to Rose's, home was about half a mile from bana's home to the police station at 51st and Wentworth was 1.4 miles. Is that okay? That's better that tracks. Um, and in terms of of this, the only other half mile that I did mention, is that, when the police encountered, her, give me 1. Second for that exact address. Okay. The counter bana at 51 and Morgan. And at that time, bana was a half a mile away from the police station. All right? But the whole time, her car was running obviously she wasn't stable. Um, the police get any suspension or anything for this and you get time off? No, no I mean we know they we know there was no cough or CIT team. I mean I wasn't there. I don't know what happened. Um, I just Disappointed in the whole thing is a a a terrible thing. But I I I just don't feel like I could support this. So I will not be supporting this but thank you. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you Alderman. Pisado Alderman Rodriguez. Sanchez followed by Alderman Taylor. Followed by Alderman Lee. Thank you, chair. Um, can you tell me, why do we only have the tail end of the conversation on body cam was? Was it not turn on? The body camera was turned on toward the end of the interaction and so the way that our uh, BWC technology works, is that it? It buffers. That's the, the technical term meaning that it captures from the point that the officers hit the the play button and record button it captures 2 minutes before, but the 2 minutes that are captured, do not have audio. So in this case, the officers tapped record Long into almost at the tail end of the conversation with bana, so we do have 2 minutes before it does show the officer calling bana's Mother. Um, it does show bana and the officers interacting, but unfortunately, we cannot hear that conversation for, um, the majority of of the interaction. Okay. Thank you. Um, for the last 6 years, we have been working on trying to create uh Mental Health, crisis response system for the city and cases like this, make it evident that we need that. So bad um, all around uh the city. because if we had access to that, that officer, if they didn't feel competent in keeping that person, safe, at that moment either because they didn't understand what was going on with this person or because they just didn't feel like they could help her. Um, that person would have gotten help and we wouldn't be here discussing that. Um, I have had issues like this in my work and I can tell you for a fact that my neighbors in my community would never leave somebody alone even if they refuse help. My neighbors would not leave somebody alone that they know would be at risk in such low temperatures and dressed in the way that she was dressed. So I do think that there was a responsibility from those officers to figure it out to make sure that she was protected and they didn't. So I support, uh, passing this item out of committee. Thank you. Thank you Alderman, Alderman, Taylor. Thank you, madam chair. Um, I'm gonna ask this question and was training police officers. Do we teach common decency? Is that a class? Because common decency would have said this young woman needed help. She stabbed naked with a robe on and no shoes. A person doesn't have to tell you, they got mental health issue. The order for you to realize there's something wrong or something was going on. Hey, can you tell me who she made the statement to, which is this ain't no 911 call when she said, she is scared of the police. Uh, she's, uh, Alderman. Taylor is asking who made the statement that they were afraid of the police. Um, Banna did state that she was fearful of the police. Is that on camera? Is that on? Is that on the call? But she sent an 911. Yes, it's on. The 911, call. And so is this 2 different days or is this the same day? Because I'm, I'm a little confused about that. Sure, it's the same day over the course of 3 hours. So she initially calls. Yeah. Okay, answer your question. Um, and both of her legs were amputated because of this incident. Yes, both of her legs were amputated, uh, below the knee, uh, after this incident. Does she have children? She does not. That's that's all the thought that we're questioning whether or not she deserved it. She lost her legs because we didn't do what we stuck with supposed to do police cars. Clearly say several protect but who Thank you, madam chair. Uh, thank you all the men, all the men lie. Thank you, madam chair. Um, what year did this happen again? I apologize. I missed that in the beginning. No problem. Um, although I'm in Lee, this incident occurred in 2021, Okay. So in 2021 that was before we had the, the care teams um, Let me ask the a question and this is more about just how procedurally things work. So there was a call to dispatch that she made, um, where she she said that she was fearful of the police. Um, sometime later there's another call. Um, By the neighbor Rosa, uh, the the neighbor who called 911 to to report that this woman was in distress at any point. Was it established that it was the same woman in the police system. Like I just don't know how those things are tracked. Yes. Um, it at there was no tie between the 911 call and the call by uh the the neighbor Rose Sanchez. Uh until after we were in litigation. Okay. Um, and as far as, uh, when body warn cameras, get turned on. Um, what what is the, what is the police procedure? Uh, for 1, boddie warn cameras, get turned on Sure. So um in terms of the the procedure for body warn camera being turned on, um, I'm happy to answer that question through the chair because litigation is pending it in ongoing? Okay, okay, okay. Uh I I understand I the reason I asked that question is because it's really unfortunate that we don't have. Um, more of the the footage here, this is a, a horrible situation. Um, Yeah, I I I don't know that I can add much more than what my colleagues have already discussed on on, uh, during this conversation. Um, I understand that we live in a really litigious society and that um, we've got if someone is declining um, Services. But, it seems pretty obvious that they need help. Um, I I'm going to support this, uh, the settlement. I I wish there was a different outcome for this young woman. Thank you. Thank you Alderman. Lee Alderman Lopez Thank you again. Chairman, I'd have a Another question if I may ask, because we've talked a lot about the body cam footage. Um, we're the site where the lights and Sirens activated on the car when they Engage with this resident know. Okay. Uh, seeing no more question. Is there a motion to recommend approval of item? 3B, some move by Alderman Vasquez, Uh, roll call has been asked for. We will take a roll call. Vice chair Conway. Alderman laspada. Alderman Hopkins. Alderman Hall. Alderman Mitchell. Alderman Harris. Excuse me. Almond almond Harris. I yes. Oh, okay. Got you, hold him in the hall and say, Yes, almond Hall is a yes Alderman, Beale. Alderman lie. Yes. Alderman, Ramirez, Alderman, Quinn. Oh Ramirez. Good morning. All Alderman Quinn. Alderman Lopez. Alderman Moore. Alderman. Curtis Alderman. OSHA. Alderman Taylor. Yes. Alderman Mosley. Alderman Rodriguez. Alderman Scott. Alderman. Sichel Lopez. Alderman brunette. Alderman. Ervin. Alderman. Talia Farrell. Alderman, Cardona. Alderman waguespack. Alderman, Rodriguez, Sanchez. Alderman Quezada. Alderman. Vagus Alderman mitts. Alderman spaz. Alderman Vasquez. Alderman. Reilly Alderman, Knudsen. Alderman. Martin. Alderman Silverstein. Chair Dal vests. The item passes 19 to 8 and will be reported out the due pass. Recommendation will report it out. Almond mitz was the eye. Alderman mitts I ended the vote and call the vote total. So I'm not going to be able to count you in this no problem. Thank you. We will report the due pass recommendation at the next city council meeting. Thank you, Miss Mendon Hall. Item, 3 C, Leonard Gibson versus Ronald Watts at all. Case number 18c, 5120 in the amount of 1.2 million we're joined on this uh, Case by Victoria Benson from the Department of Law who will report this matter out. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you Cheryl. Victoria Benson um Deputy Corporation Council with the mass Schwarz and complex litigation division. I am here today to request your approval to settle a federal lawsuit filed by plaintiff. Leonard Gibson, seeking to recover damages for the prosecutions arising from his multiple arrests by former Sergeant, Ronald watts, and Chicago police officers assigned to the Tactical Team of, which he was a sergeant. Plaintiff's allegations allegations include claims that he was maliciously prosecuted and that officer's fabricated evidence against him. Plaintiff also makes monel respond yet Superior and admic claims against the city. A lot of Department, recommends, a settlement in this matter, and the amount of 1.2 million dollars. Plaintiff alleges that he was targeted by Watts because he refused to pay Watts. A bribe to allow him to continue to sell narcotics in the IBEW Wells Housing Development. Plaintiff claims that Watts approached him sometime before his first arrest by watts and officers assigned to the Tactical Team of which he was a sergeant. Plaintiff alleges that each of his 3. Arrests, conducted their after, on January, 4th 2003, May 8th 2003 in August 28th, 2007, by watts, and members of the team of which Watts was the sergeant, or based on fabricated evidence, and undertaken because plaintiff refused to pay Watts With each arrest plaintiff was charged with narcotics related offenses, and prosecuted prosecutions that he claims were malicious and based upon fabricated evidence. He was first arrested by Watson other officers on January 4th 2003, the parties dispute how and why that arrest occurred plaintiff was released on bond the following day, a few months later on May 8th 2003 while released on bond for his January, 4th 2003 arrest plaintiff, was again, arrested by watts and officers assigned to the Tactical Team of, which Watts was the sergeant. Again, the dep parties dispute how and why that arrest occurred? After this arrest. However, the plaintiff was detained in Cook County, Jail, until the criminal proceedings, from both his January, 4th 2003 arrest and his May 8th, 2003 arrest had concluded. As to his January, 4th 2003 arrest, the plane to file a motion to quash, the arrest and to suppress the evidence and at the hearing on that motion. He presented testimony from the janitor of the building at which he was arrested. Who testified in support of the plaintiff's version of the events leading to his arrest The judge. However, ultimately denied, the plaintiff's motion to suppress and on August 24th, 2004 the plaintiff, plead guilty to possession of a controlled substance for both his January, 4th 2003 arrest, and his May 8th, 2003 arrest. He was then sentenced to Cook County boot camp program, where he spent 4 months at the time that he plead guilty. The plaintiff had had served approximately 1.32 years in custody at Cook County Jail. The following month in September 2004, the FBI jointly with cpds internal affairs, division began investigating allegations that Watts former officer kholat Muhammad and other members of Watts's Tactical Team were engaged in Acts of corruption that included collecting Street taxes from drug dealers, that would allow them to continue their business without being arrested and arresting. Sometimes, falsely individuals and the involved in the drug trade who refused to pay the tax. While that investigation was preceding. The plaintiff was arrested a third time on, August 28th, 2007 by Watson officers, assigned to the Tactical Team. He supervised again, the dep parties dispute how and why that arrest occurred. A few months later on November 15th, 2007, the plaintiff pled, guilty to charges arising from this arrest and was sentenced to 2 years incarceration. At the Illinois Department of Corrections for each. Excuse me, we calculate that he served approximately 273.5 days in custody for this particular conviction. in total for all 3 convictions, the plaintiff spent Approximately 2.07 years in custody for convictions attributable, to arrest, by watts and officers assigned to the Tactical Team. He supervised. The FBI IAD joint investigation, had continued through February 2012, when Watson Muhammad were indicted for theft of government funds. Watson, Muhammad ultimately plead guilt both plead guilty and served time in federal prison. Plaintiff used watts and Muhammad's convictions is newly discovered evidence in support of his petitions seeking to overturn his convictions. Those convictions were vacated on February 13th 2018 and on March 15th, 2018. He was granted a certificate of innocence for each of the a aforementioned convictions. Given the risks associated with proceeding to trial in this case, we recommend settling this matter for 1.2 million dollars. Uh, thank you, Victoria. Any. Questions from members of the council. Alderman Moore. I think I asked this in committee, I just want to be clear. Um, it was 2 years in jail. Correct. For all 3, it comes to approximately 2.07 years. when you say for all 3, for all 3, Convictions. So so for all 3 of his convictions. So for January 4th 2004, alright, alright, alright, yeah, okay, I'm sorry that and And it's the they're asking for 1.2, you say correct. That's the recommended settlement. All right. Thank you. No, more questions. Chairman Thank you Alderman, Moore Alderman, Ervin. Oh, I I was just gonna move past this. Motion made by Alderman. Ervin, recommending do pass all those in favor. Signify by saying, I I, well, Rosanna we we Alderman Rodriguez Sanchez, all those opposed Alderman, Moore is a no and that will be reported out. The due pass recommendation with the exception of alderman. Moore voting no will be reported out at the next city council meeting. Item number is 3, D. John vez versus City of Chicago at all case number 18, seavey 81444 and the amount of 8.25 million Uh, Jessica Felker from the Department of law is here to give us that account. Miss Felker? Yes, good afternoon. My name is Jessica Felker. I'm the deputy Corporation Council in the federal civil rights. Litigation division, I'm here to present John vez versus the city at CV. 8144, the Department of Law had excuse me. Recommended settling this reverse conviction suit for 7.6 million dollars. In July 2024, this committee voted it down and that reduction was reported out and adopted by the full Council. We now present the settlement. Again, this time for 8.25 million, if this settlement doesn't pass the trial will go forward on July 21st, 2025 since then, there have been recent large verdicts, excuse me since the vote last time there had been recent large verdicts and the defense learned a key witness. Since his deposition has entered prison for a felony conviction of sexual assault of a minor family member the Department of Law therefore recommends authorizing this settlement in this case plaintiff vests was convicted in 2002 of the 2001 murder of Anthony huanca, who has spent a year and a half in pre-trial detention and additional 15 years in prison. Until in 2017, his conviction was vacated in the charges were dismissed. The victim. Mr. Huanca a member of the Latin Kings which fatally shot by 2 individual. Uals in a gang related shooting on. March 19th. 2001 near a nightclub at Marshall Boulevard in smack road before the shooting 3 individuals in a car were held by gunpoint by the perpetrators. Another friend had exited the vehicle and was on the street during the shooting. Based on gang named shouted by the perpetrators, the evidence pointed to a shooting, being in the shooting, being an attack on the Latin Kings by members of the Satan Disciples during the CPD investigation. 1 of the individuals held by gunpoint in the car. The 1, who is now convicted of a Class 1 felony came into area, 4 headquarters to be interrupted. Coincidentally, the last was at the station, he had been the victim of an unrelated drive by shooting 1 of the detectives assigned to the Hanukkah murder detective burrow. Spoke to Valles to gather information on the shooting, the detective used a previous book. Shot of the Les to verify. the Lees identification information when he was finished detective biccard, put that box out of the Les on his clipboard and then went to interview the eyewitness from the car. During the huanca murder. detective Bardot reported that when he opened the clipboard to interview the witness that witness spontaneously identified VZ eventually that led to the detective showing all 4. Eyewitnesses a photo array Andor a line lineup, they they all identified vests, the Lev's disputes those identifications and claims that detective Bardot fabricated. the clipboard identification entirely detective Bardot, failed to inventory the photo or document the clipboard incident in his police report. The assistant States Attorney who approved felony, charges had no recollection hearing about the clipboard identification when Valles was was arrested. It was reported that he had admitted to being a Satan's disciple in his deposition. He stated that he was a Satan disciple as a teen, but disassociated before his arrest 1, piece of evidence that was used to tie Les to the crime, had to do with an incident shortly after Hank's murder bless. His girlfriend had been shot, visiting the grave site of veza's. Uncle vesa's. Uncle was killed, approximately a year before the Helena murder. Detectives reported that vests told them a Latin King had shot. His uncle who was a Satan disciple, they reported that vests said, his girlfriend was shot by the Latin Kings Cook County, Sheriff's Office visited vesa's girlfriend in the hospital. They reported that while in the hospital, visiting his girlfriend a nurse overheard vests. Tell his girlfriend that she was shot because of something he did after an interview by the detectives, an assistant States Attorney interviewed vesa's girlfriend. And she signed a statement that vests admitted that to her that she was shot because vests had a shot, a member of the Latin Kings. As payback for the shooting of his uncle bles was charged and proceeded to trial the 4 eyewitnesses Is identified as and his girlfriend and or identified bles. Excuse me, his girlfriend testified, but denied that she had reason to believe bles shot her Anica. The prosecution told the jury about her statement. Anyway, a jury found Valles guilty on in October 2002 In December 2017, the State's Attorney's Office, agreed to vacate bz's conviction and dismiss the charges Valles. Argued his conviction should be vacated because among other reasons 1 of the witnesses stated that witness falsely implicated. Vests and vesa's attorney was ineffective because the attorney failed to introduce evidence of alessa's Alibi, which was that he was doing laundry with his cousin and that attorney failed to object to the prosecutors impermissible, use of the girlfriend's statement at trial, the State's Attorney's, office said it determined the Constitutional violations occurred at trial. And so it was willing to vacate the conviction and dismiss the charges. The Les never sought a certificate of innocence in 2018 VZ filed suit alleging that the Chicago police officers, misconduct resulted in his wrongful conviction, well, as contends that a among other things. The identification of him from the clipboard was a sham and it's own statement was fabricated, but as his girlfriend claims that detective Ricardo threatened, her, if she did not cooperate and that she signed the statement, only because he promised her, she could go home. She claims that the assistant States Attorney wrote the statement, and that she did not give the ASA that information. Veza's cousin testified. In this case that Visa was doing laundry with her, at his aunt's house. At the time of the murder. In this lawsuit, 2 of the witnesses to the shooting were not located, or could not be properly served for depositions the other 2. Testified in depositions, in this case, 1 of those Witnesses, stood by her identification and testified that she was not pressured by police the other witness who testified at trial that he identified the LZ from the clipboard is a man. I referenced earlier who is now serving a prison sentence for sexual abuse of a minor family member when he was deposed he had a different version of events than at trial, he testified during his deposition that he identified Valles, looking at a photo let looking at photos in a game book and then he saw a photo on top of a stack of pictures on the clipboard. He testified that he lied at vesa's criminal trial when he said he did not look at a game book. He also testified that he when he viewed the live lineup he had Brought with him a photo of the Les and when he could not tell who in the lineup, matched the photo. He seen an officer told him which man in the lineup matched the photo. However he still does stand by his identification as of the last as a perpetrator. 2 Cousins of 1 of the witnesses, who was not able to be disposed testified. In this case, they said that their cousin admitted that he falsely identified Valles Valles retained. An expert who will testify that these factors that the factors present that night, reduce the ri of the eyewitness. Identifications in this case, the Les also has a policy and practice claim against the city alleging that the city's disciplinary system was deficient bless has retained. An expert who will testify that Chicago Chicago at the time of this homicide investigation, had an unacceptably, low sustained rates for police. Disciplinary investigations resulting in a system where officers did not fear. They would face discipline for misconduct vests Further alleges that the officers here committed misconduct because of the city's allegedly deficient disciplinary system. Bes initially asked for 14.25 million to settle against the city, but the city was able to get him except 7.6 million for his 7 or excuse me, 16 and a half years of incarceration, the county settled for 2.4 million. Not long before the city reached its settlement. After the settlement was rejected by this, this Committee and Council the 2 recent runaway verdicts occurred and we discovered that the key witness. As I mentioned involved in the identification was convicted of that class that class 1 felony of criminal sexual assault against a a family member at this point of the litigation. If the litigation. If the case does not settle, it will proceed to trial on July 21st 2025. There's a large Financial Risk to proceeding at trial. The Les May seek anywhere from 30 to 75 million from the jury. If successful, he will also be entitled to attorney's fees which would likely be in the range of 3 to 4 million. Given the risks, the city recommends settling for 8.25 happy to take any questions. Thank you. Miss Falcor. Alderman Lopez. Followed by Alderman Conway. I mean, Vice chair Conway. Thank you and good afternoon. Now, chairman and members of the committee uh, just a couple quick questions. Um, When you say that, they're not properly disposed or deposed. Um, is that with regards to their statements from before, or currently? So, what I mentioned was that for this lawsuit, they could not be located or properly served with a subpoena. So we weren't able to depose them because they we couldn't serve them with a subpoena. so, because you weren't able to, Subpoena them that hurts. Our Case. Because they were our they were testifying on our behalf. Well, we don't know how they would have testified today. We did everything we could to try to locate them, but sometimes it happens especially in a case like this that you can't find all the witnesses. So if we were able to find them and if they stood by their identifications today, obviously that would strengthen our case and is that something that the Law Department itself was handling or is that something that a outside Law Firm was handling. Uh we are represented by an outside law firm in this case. So we have an outside Law Firm. That is, as we've seen time. And time again, not necessarily eager to do the due diligence on Witnesses, um, saying that we can't find people who would strengthen our case and thereby, we need to settle. I I don't think that's a fair characterization of what occurred, as I said, there are many times through, no fault of anyone that Witnesses from from 25 years ago, can't be located. They may be deceased and we don't know it, they may have left the country. It's, um, unfortunately trying to locate these people, you send out investigators, you do all your do diligence and you still can't find them. and I guess the other question that I have and chairman, I don't I don't know who To throw this out. So I'm just going to throw it out there and whoever wants to answer, This body in July rejected this settlement for a host of reasons. so, is it the Intent of the Law Department. when we reject settlements to just sit and wait and then not, continue to defend the city of Chicago but just wait for an opportunity to provide for another settlement opportunity because I would imagine many of us thought that once this matter was dead in July of 2024 that it was, in fact, dead pending lawsuit, or what have you and then to find that we've been sitting on it for now. Or a year and getting ready for a possible lawsuit in 2026. That I think should give all of us. Pause when we think about how many settlements namely like the Dexter Reed settlement that this committee has rejected only to find that the law department is has been a Lazarus effect on our decisions. Well, I will say that we did not sit on this. What we did, was re-evaluate understand that we had a new trial date and it is our fiduciary responsibility to evaluate what we think is going to happen at trial in this case. Uh, we believe that we should as a responsibility to the city and the taxpayers bring this for an opportunity for you to vote given the risks that have outlined. Um, obviously it is your body's, uh, ability, and right, to reject it again. But okay, so I guess that's the problem, right? Because we did reject it and then you had a witness who subsequently has been arrested for something else, which is the whole Crux of why we're trying to settle now. Why didn't why did we not pursue quicker just quicker legal actions? Last year to try to bring this to trial sooner as opposed to saying, look the council said no we're going to defend ourselves in court and take and take their chances as directed by this body. Why don't we do that then? Um we learned of the conviction after this was presented to to the body. Last time we are we re-evaluated the case as as the recent presidents that um, similar cases have had huge verdicts. So if I may just interrupt then With this individual already in jail, when the settlement was presented. This. Yes, this individual. We did not know at the time and that was our at the time council at the time at the time of his deposition he was not incarcerated when he was relocated. It was determined that he was in fact in prison under this uh, in this situation. So between that discovering that and the recent verdicts, uh, the Department of Law is bringing it to this body so that you can decide whether it's in our fiduciary interest to settle again. And who's the outside Council? um the outside Council in this case is boring and scahill, who represent represent the individuals and Nathan, and kamianske, who represent the city of Chicago, and the council that represents the city of Chicago, how much have they been paid up until this point? Um, Sorry, let me just look it up. Um, so I don't have it broken down between City and individual officers, but the total to date is $2 million. Thank you. Thank you Alderman Lopez Alderman. Vice chair Conway. Followed by alderman laspada. Uh thank you madam. Chairwoman I I, you know, I initially voted no on this settlement, but I think new things have come to light that have, uh, Uh, changed the balance here, I voted. No because, you know, the fact that The plaintiff's attorney who probably has received more certificates of Innocence than anyone in the history of the county certainly in States. Attorney Fox's, tenure um, In this case, didn't even seek 1 and I thought that was a pretty, pretty relevant fact. Um, because it was hard to show hard to show innocence clearly, but um, Since then, we have 1 of our key Witnesses has been that. We discovered I guess is, is a convicted felon, which the jury is likely to hear that, and the sex assault thing, obviously makes it worse, but unclear if that becomes, uh, comes before the jury, but in addition to that, I could tell you having read the order after we, um, after we rejected this settlement previously, It is clear that we have a federal judge that is uniquely upset with the city. And based on the complicated issues of admissibility here based on this complicated fact, pattern, I don't know if that will affect the judicial rulings, but I suspect it would be very expensive for us to find out. And based on the change in in uh tenor with regarding the witness as well as uh, the judge in this matter. I think we should go ahead and uh, Accept the settlement. Thank you. thank you, Vice chair Conway, uh, Alderman, the spotter Um, simply glad to concur with the opinion of aldermen Conway and when the motion, uh, opportunity comes happy to make the motion to pass, okay? Well, the opportunity is coming. I wanted to say that I too, uh, based on the uh, Evidence changes in the witness. Uh, Problem. Uh a trial is indeed very risky and we should uh Vote in favor of this. Settlement agreement. so motion made by Alderman Lepa, recommending, do pass all those in favor of the motion signify by saying I, I opposed Alderman Quinn. Alderman spaz. Alderman, Cardona, Riley and Lopez. In the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it. And the due pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city, council meeting with the exception of those Alderman voting. No. um, thank you very much, Miss Felker, you can stay, you've got another case, um, 3 e, John Galvin versus switzky at all, case number 23 seavey 3158 in the amount of 20 million. Author Al mandaras versus switzky at all case. Number 23. seavey 3165 in the amount of 20 million dollars. And Francisco Nanz versus switzky at all. Case number 23, seavey 3162 in the amount of $8 million, these 3 cases have been Consolidated and we're joined by Jessica Felker who will give the account here, miss Felker. All right. Thank you, chair. I'll try not to take it personally that I'm always at the end of the batting order here. Uh, so these are 3, reverse conviction cases. Again, um, these arise from convictions for a 1986 aggravated arson and double murder plaintiffs. Were sentenced to a life. Imprisonment for this, for these crimes, eventually their convictions were overturned, as a result of an appellant decision in 2022. On July, 21st 2022, the State's Attorney's Office agreed to dismiss their cases. Each at that point, had spent 35 years in custody petitions for certificates of Innocence, filed by plaintiffs, or pending in the Circuit Court of Cook County. The Cook County State's Attorney's office has opposed these positions plaintiffs filed suit in 2023. They sued retired and deceased Chicago police officers, as well as assistant States Attorney Joel Leon days before the city, reached a settlement, the county settled for 7.45 million for each plaintiff. If this settlement does not pass city council, these cases will proceed to Trial on June 16th 2025. At approximately 4:35 a.m. on September 24th. 1986, a fire broke out at 2603 West 24th Place in Chicago originating in the rear of the Martinez residence. Blanco Martinez resided. On the second floor and her brothers Julio Guadalupe and Jorge lived in the Attic apartment. Blanc and Jorge were able to escape while Julio Julio and Guadalupe were Trapped in the attic and died. Jorge was a member of the Latin Kings, the police investigation, unfolded, over several months and did not conclude until June 1987, a neighbor who witnessed the fire sought 3. Hispanic males walking in the alley and saw 1, throw an object wrapped in a cloth, through a rear porch, window of the house before it burst into flames. She was never able to identify any of those men based on her report and inspection of the premises. It was concluded that this was arson. There was no trace of an accelerant discovered. However, for a while, the investigation centered around reports of those, who had em motive to hurt Blanca and her Latin King brother, Jorge Blanca, 2x, tenants of Blancas and others made various allegations against a woman named Lisa, who knew the Martinez's. Those allegations included that Lisa made verbal threats to burn down the Martinez's house and kill Blanca and Jorge Martinez. That Lisa had a personal dispute with Blanca and that Lisa's brother. A Satan disciple was supposedly killed by a Latin King in 1985. So she wanted to seek Vengeance against Jorge. Lisa was interviewed and stated that 4 Satan Disciples approached her and said they would Avenge the death of her brother. She identified, 3 of the 4 by nicknames officers later determined that those were 3 were plaintiff, John Galvin, his brother, and Michael almendarez, the brother of plaintiff Arthur almadar. Another witness Frank partida who was in the alley at the time of the fire told police that he was with 2 teens. He had knew knew from the neighborhood. When he observed 3, Hispanic males in the alley shortly. Before the fire started 1 of those teams identified plaintiff Arthur Aladar as his brother, Michael almadar, and John Galvin in photographs as 2 of the people, he saw in the alley, both the teens with parda that night perta excuse me that night are now deceased Peta has testified in this case that the 2 teens were to Eventually plaintiff Arthur as his brother. Michael was interviewed, and he denied involvement. But pointed the finger at plaintiff's, John Galvin and Francisco Nas saying, they admitted to firebombing the house. Plaintiff John galban was interviewed and confessed saying that the molotov cocktail failed to ignite the building. So he threw a cigarette to start the fire and he implicated plaintiff's, Francisco nagas and Arthur almadar both those men then confessed implicating, the other 2, plaintiffs plaintiffs were separately interviewed by Cook County, uh Cook County defendant felony review, assistant State's Attorney, Joel Leighton and provided accounts, substantially similar to what they had related to detectives all 3, plaintain plaintiffs and Michael almadar as all assert. Now that their statements were physically and psychologically forced and fabricated, they claimed that assistant, State's Attorney Leighton was involved in the fabrication of their statements and was fully aware of the physical abuse perpetrated by the detectives. In this suit, plaintiff's claim that there is no evidence to support that the fire was an arson, but even if it was an arson, the fire could not have occurred in the manner. They described in their confessions proving their innocence and that they were wrongfully. Convicted plaintiff will present testimony from a fire origin expert to show that g. John galvin's story that a cigarette ignited the fire and began it is scientifically impossible. The expert will also testify that there is no way to determine exactly where the fire started but the fire could not have started in the back porch. As the confessions indicate plaintiffs alleged that if the fire was an arson, defendant's abandoned viable leads. Lisa was the arsonist plaintiffs argue supported by the testimony of Frank partida that the 2 teens witnessing, the events were too drunk and too high to be able to identify anyone in the alley before the fire and defendant te detectives knew that they could not see that. Could not see the perpetrators and fabricated the statements from those Witnesses. the case outcome depends largely on whether a jury believes plaintiffs account or if they believe defendants account about the time in custody and how of the interrogations went out, He Witnesses in this case, including a number of defendants and the only eyewitness identifying any of the defend or plaintiffs are now deceased at the time of the fire, John Galvin had turned 18. Arthur Al laderas was 20 and Francisco Naas was 21. They each served 35 years before the charges were dismissed. Galvin and Aladar will testify that they endure trauma as a result of their imprisonment imprisonment. Francisco na admits to being a leader of a gang while he was incarcerated. And as a result denies that he suffered any psychological or physical abuse while in prison. He was recently arrested in his Cook County Jail. While the jury will not know about his arrest, it factors into the settlement given that he will be limited in his testimony about how the conviction or how his conviction back in 1986 and his subsequent imprisonment. Affects his life today also. An assistant States, Attorney came forward who was involved in the post-conviction, proceedings and testified. That Nana's, admitted to him in an interview conducted in 2005, that he and the other 2 plaintiffs committed, the crime that assistant State's Attorney, however, did not document that confession and he never testified to that. Confession in the post conviction proceedings, plaintiffs made a collective demand to the city of 105 million dollars to settle their claims but they will seek much more if they go go to trial the week of the mediation, the, the plaintiff settled with Cook County for 7.45 million dollars each. If the settlement is not the authorized by city council the city, defendants and plaintiffs will go to trial on June 16th. 2025 plaintiffs will likely ask the jury for an award in excess of 200 million plaintiffs attorneys. Fees will likely be 3 to 5 million. If they are successful at trial, taking an account, the risk of those lit. ation, the Law Department recommends, a total of a settlement of total 48 million, 20 million to Plaintiff Galvin 20 million to Plaintiff Al madaras and 8 million to Plaintiff Naas. This is inclusive of fees and cost for their Collective. 105 years in custody approximately 457,000 per year to avoid significant financial exposure. That could result from a jury trial, the Department of Law recommends, this settlement. Thank you, Miss Felker. I'm happy to take any questions. Alderman spaz. Uh, I think I know the answer to this but the arsonist was never caught. Um, correct. If you if you believe the plaintiff's version and the true arsonist was never. I like the way I put that. Thank you. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you. Any other questions? Is there a motion to recommend approval of this item? So moved by Alderman, Martin recommending do pass. all those in favor of this motion signify by saying, I Opposed. And the append. Oh, and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it. And the due pass recommendation will be reported out at the next city, council meeting Miss Felker. Thank you very much. Thank you chair. Item. Number 4 is a proposed order. Authorizing, the payment of various small claims against the city. This was a direct introduction and those payment that payment list was sent to everyone electronically. And if there are no objections, these will be placed on the Omnibus and item. Number 5 is a proposed order denying, the payment of various small claims against the city of Chicago, also, a direct introduction, and the list of payments were sent electronically to everyone. And if there are no objections, these will be placed on the Omnibus. There being no further business before the committee. Can I get a motion to adjourn? So, moved by Alderman Cardona. All those in favor. Signify by saying I I oppose and the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, the meeting is called to the end. Have a great afternoon, everyone.