We just requested, I don't know. the Chicago city council Rules of Order and procedure rule 49, the sergeant-at-arms sets forth, the following rules of convict to be followed during the public comment period and the duration. Of all committee and City Council. Meetings, profane vulgar, threatening abusive or disruptive language is not permitted. The meaning discriminatory or harassing behavior of speech directed towards. Others is not permitted disruptive behavior, including disruptive or disrespectful contouring. Others presentations is not permitted, banners flyers or signage are not permitted backpacks, large bags, and sharp objects are not permitted. Clear backs, not tinted in color that do not exceed 12 by 12 by 6. In will be permitted in our subject to search health food and beverages including in metal canisters are not permitted cell phones. Must be placed on silent prior to entering the meeting room. Individuals must remain seated, public comment speakers are permitted to stand only when providing public comment, small handheld devices may be used only while seated and the user must refrain from interfering with the viewer hearing of other individuals. Individuals or groups failing to adhere to. These rules will be asked to see such disruptive content and failure to comply will result in their being subject to removal from the meeting by the sergeant-at-arms. You know what? I just realized something. Right. I'm sorry. We got so yeah, no priority. You already know. They want to form, which I did. So cool. Thank It's growing up. Yeah. City of Chicago city council rules of conduct for public meetings. 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Chicago city council Rules of Order and procedure rule, 49. The sergeant-at-arms sets forth, the following rules of convict to be followed during the public comment period and the duration of all committee and City Council, meetings, profane vulgar, threatening abusive or disruptive language is not permitted. Demeaning discriminatory or harassing behavior and speech directed towards others is not permitted disruptive behavior, including disruptive or disrespectful content. During others presentations is not permitted, banners flyers, or signage are not permitted backpacks, large bags, and sharp objects are not permitted. Clear bags, not tinted in color that do not exceed 12 by 12 by 6. In will be permitted in our subject to search health food and beverages including in metal canisters are not permitted cell phones. Must be placed on silent prior to entering the meeting room. Individuals must remain seated, public comment speakers are permitted to stand only when providing public comment. Small handheld devices may be used only while seated and the user must refrain from interfering with the view or hearing of other individuals, individuals or groups failing to adhere to. These rules will be asked to see such disruptive content and failure to comply will result in their being subject to removal from the meeting by the sergeant-at-arms. You know what I just realized. City of Chicago city council rules of conduct for public meetings, 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Chicago city council Rules of Order and procedure rule, 49. The sergeant-at-arms sets forth, the following rules of convict to be followed during the public comment period and the duration of all committee and City Council, meetings profane. Vulgar threatening abusive or disruptive language is not permitted. Demeaning discriminatory or harassing behavior and speech directed towards. Others is not permitted disruptive behavior including disruptive or disrespectful condo tearing. Others presentations is not permitted, banners flyers, or signage are not permitted backpacks, large bags, and sharp objects are not permitted. Clear bags, not tinted in color that do not exceed 12 by 12 by 6. In will be permitted in our subject to search health food and beverages including in metal canisters are not permitted cell phones. Must be placed on silent prior to entering the meeting room. Individuals must remain seated, public comments speakers, are permitted to stand only when providing public comment, small handheld devices may be used only while seated and the user must refrain from interfering with the view or hearing of other individuals, individuals or groups failing to adhere to. These rules, will be asked. To see such disruptive convict and failure to comply. Will result in there being subject to removal from the meeting by the Sergeant at Arms. You know what? I just realized something. You have Chicago city council rules of conduct for public meetings. 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Chicago city council Rules of Order and procedure rule, 49. The sergeant-at-arms sets forth, the following rules of convict to be followed during the public comment period and the duration of all committee and City Council. Meetings, profane vulgar, threatening abusive or disruptive language is not permitted. Demeaning discriminatory or harassing behavior and speech directed towards. Others is not permitted disruptive behavior including disruptive or disrespectful condo tearing. Others presentations is not permitted, banners flyers, or signage are not permitted backpacks, large bags, and sharp objects are not permitted. Clear bags, not tinted in color that do not exceed 12 by 12 by 6. In will be permitted in our subject to search health food and beverages including in metal canisters are not permitted. Cell phones must be placed on silent prior to entering the meeting room. Individuals must remain seated, public comment speakers are permitted to stand only when providing public comment, small handheld devices may be used only while seated and the user must refrain from interfering with the view or hearing of other individuals, individuals or groups failing to adhere to. These rules will be asked to see such disruptive convict and failure to comply will result in their being subject to removal. From the meeting, but the sergeant-at-arms. City of Chicago city, council rules of conduct for public meetings, 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Chicago city council Rules of Order and procedure rule, 49. The sergeant-at-arms sets forth, the following rules of convict to be followed during the public comment period and the duration of all committee and City Council. Meetings, profane vulgar, threatening abusive or disruptive language is not permitted. Demeaning discriminatory or harassing behavior and speech directed towards others is not permitted. Disruptive behavior, including disruptive or disrespectful content. During others presentations is not permitted, banners flyers, or signage are not permitted backpacks, large bags, and sharp objects are not permitted. Clear bags, not tinted in color that do not. Exceed 12 by 12 by 6 inches will be permitted in our subject subject to search health food and beverages including in metal canisters are not permitted, cell phones must be placed on. Schools will be asked to see such disruptive convict and failure to comply. Will result in there being subject to removal from the meeting by the sergeant-at-arms. You know what? I just realized something. Mr. Blakemore, I'd kindly ask that you refrain from speaking so that we can allow Miss Jackson to speak. Miss Jackson, please. so, Good morning, anyway. So, as this is the oversight committee, you know it's very interesting to be in this meeting. After attending the uh, oversight committee meeting at DC. On March 5th and just so you know Inspector General whisper I was in the hearing. I didn't just see it on TV, I was in the hearing. And what? I'm Was was got me baffled. Is that how our mayor Brandon Johnson? Could commit perjury like that. About the money. And what's got me, even further puzzled is how he has continued to lie since that time about the money. The comedian immigrant Refugee Rights will now come to order. Uh, today, we have 1 item on the agenda, which is a subject matter hearing with no votes to be taken on committee updates, including updates, about Federal immigration activity. In the Chicago area, we will begin with a roll, call to establish quorum. uh, we've got, uh, chairwoman Dal. Here. Uh, otter when we go. Auto can. Uh, okay, Alderman Rodriguez. Alder person, Fuentes. Uh, honorary pharaoh. Alderwoman Cruise Alderman, Cardona. Alderwoman Rodriguez Sanchez. Here Alderman. Cross Rodriguez. Sanchez. Sorry, Alderman, Ramirez, Rosa president, is that kind of morning today. You're still here. My apologies, my friend. Okay. All right. Got it. Uh, alderwoman, I'm not hopping with. Okay, Auto Manhattan. Vice chair, Taylor and chair Vasquez. 1, 2 3. There are 8 members currently present. We have a quorum I need non-members present. No. Okay. uh, Alder persons, uh, cruise and Taylor have requested a virtual option for Committee hearing attendance, due to extenuating circumstances. In accordance with rule 59 of the city council Rules of Order, can I get a motion to allow them to attend this hearing virtually? So moved by other person Fuentes here in no objection. So ordered all right. You ready? Cool. Okay, well you can. You want to start? We'll start you right now. That's You all right right now. So first, uh, speaker. okay, well, Sorry. Okay, at this time, we'll begin the public comment period, the period is limited to 30 minutes out. Of huh. Out of respect for every time. Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. Where most speakers will comment first filed by those in person as of 10 a.m. Monday, March 17th 2025, uh, zero callers have requested to speak at the Joint Committee hearing. So we will move on to in-person speakers. Our first speaker will be Mr. George Blakemore. I'm a Paul. The seats are empty. Even those illegal immigrants, I guess they got uh, a lot of fists that show up, but at least people from Palestine. And Israel. It's, it's terrible down here. You didn't see me grinning in your face or nothing. So I I Know The Enemy. I never forget racism is here. The art of Engagement Maria had she can speak good English. Pat dial can speak good English. How do you engage with your enemy? How do you, why would you run up and, and grin and lick it with your enemy? I asked for an agenda. And you didn't have that agenda. Why? And why would you You. Over this committee. Why would you have this committee at the same time? In the same place and, and 2 different. Why would you do that? That shows incompetence. That shows unprofessionalism and evidently people are tired of all of you. The seats are empty of men. And women. They're getting tired of the do do. They are tired. I said, I better get there early. I don't see a lot of Palestine and abs by Noble Africa and and Israel you can see Israel is something popped up 1949. It's just a pop-up nation and fight. It's sad and you're depressed. You all start news Trump feed. Go red to my black people. Go Blue. No to your black. Hey, be true. It's something evil here, something corrupt here. But but it's something unamerican here. Who does that? Why would you do that? You're incompetent. But, you know, have the art of engaged you speak. Good English. You don't use is the name. You're the enemy sir. You're my enemy and I hate you. I will never guess I will never Grant. I hate you because how you treated me you made me hey you I didn't want to do it and all the time you knew it. I mean Thank you very much Mr. Blakemore Uh, our next speaker will be Jessica Jackson. Yeah, my apologies for that. Miss Jackson. Um, so the this is the committee on immigrant and Refugee Rights. And like I said, across the hall is very interesting to see this meeting. Take place after having the meeting up on in DC. Uh at the uh at that Congressional, hearing up there about Sanctuary cities. Now the issue with this at that hearing mayor Brandon Johnson committed perjury several times as it pertains to the issues of The sanctuary cities and the effect that uh, illegal immigration is having on Chicago. So now, with that being said, everybody, in this room knows that Brandon Johnson did not tell the truth. Everybody in this room knows it. Everybody in this room has to take responsibility. For the fact that you all ran this city in the ground knowingly, ran this city financially, environmentally, ethically, morally, and any otherly you all knowingly ran, Chicago in the ground and you all have to take responsibility for that. now, part of that responsibility is That you all for. Mayor Brandon Johnson to resign, he has proven to be unfit to serve. The fact that he allowed this illegal immigration to go on like this but now because you all are very arrogant. and believe that you all are Untouchables because Chicago is this quote unquote Democratic machine, You all intend to keep on operating business, as usual. and that's evident by the attendance this morning, by the fact that you all pounded 2 meetings on top of each other knowing the importance of both meetings, knowing that, that would be a trick for the media. So that means that you all like our parents used to say, don't believe fat meat is greasy. so what we need to do, as the citizens of Chicago who have the facts because we're in these meetings all the time is what we're going to do is we're going to gather up the pertinent information and we're going to forward it to those Republicans up on Capitol Hill. So that they can go ahead and handle Chicago because if not, you all in 10 to let illegal immigrants. Swallowed this city up to the point of no return. Because a lot of you all do not have an allegiance to America. So with that being said, I'mma take my seat and I'mma continue to gather up my evidence so that we can send it to the federal government and you all, if you don't make B. Thank you. Very Thank you, Miss Jackson, uh, thank you for your comments. I'd like to know for the record. Uh, Alderman brunette is present in an attendance. Uh, As well as alderwoman Haden. And Alder mentality phoh. Thank you. All. All right. The next uh, speaker. Our next speaker is Taiwan Sims. so, um, TDs is true from derangement syndrome. It's true. and a host of individuals in the country, uh, I guess exhibiting this diet. Um, I don't know what it is psychosis, I don't know how to explain it. How about I know that it's ripping. Um, America apart. And whereas we should be more connected now. Seeing as we have a new Administration seeing is that we have been occupied by millions of individuals have not who have not been vetted nor checked, Instead of arguing, instead of fighting for criminals. We should be fighting for the legal immigrants. Instead of coupling and making these 2, the same argument where you all take illegal immigration and coupling with the legal immigrants. The people that came here, were 20 some years from Nicaragua. The people that came here were 11 some years from Afghanistan. The people who have come from Wares and all these other Mexican countries with been attacked by drugs Lords. These people are legal immigrants, they came through the legal channels. Jasmine Crockett seems to believe that illegal immigration is legal and that is not criminal, but it is under title weight. If we look at it, we'll see that it's illegal. Andy Biggs post this question. He says are Sanctuary cities illegal but you corporate law know the know the answer to that right? Just like every Person in this room. Should being the child of the leg leg legislative part of our government. But he cited. The 2 things the criminal, warrant versus the, what Civil War which supersedes the criminal warrant. Which shows that you all are culpable for criminal, acts against American citizens. Brandon Johnson said he put 20, what invested 20 times? The amount that he put into the new arrival initiative, where is that? Whereas the evidence of that, and he said, in Black Americans. So, these American people American people. That resemble me, where's the evidence of that? Because I'm still homeless, because I'm still dealing with everything that I'm dealing with that. I came into this room once before the speaker about or have been continuously speaking about, Where is the evidence of that corporate law? You all violated my constitutional right, right? Y'all wanted to censor me. Y'all wanted to keep me quiet for what reason. The evidence is, I, I don't even have to stand at this Podium and speak. We can walk through the streets of Chicago, we can note the veterans. We can note the younger adults. And we can note the Americans that sleep in line the streets. What because you all chose the house illegals because you all chose y'all criminal stands against the American people. You all must be held accountable and I want to choose a soft speech in a way to say that but I can't. Because I'm a victim of this. I stand as a victim here. Ran out of my neighborhood. Thank you, Mr. Sims for your comments. Uh, our next speaker will be Paula Jean. Jean. Sorry, my apologies for that. Thank you. Oh, thank you. All right, thank you for your time. My name is Paula Jean. I come to you as a US citizen and also as an immigrant um life has not actually yeah life hasn't been easy for me but it has been incredibly wonderful and it's been wonderful because of this great City. I came here as an immigrant back in 1989. And the reason my family chose the city of Chicago was because of the welcoming city ordinance. Um, I want to let you know that, you know, I was raised in poverty, I literally lived in someone's basement, I lived slept in a yellow little couch, that I could fill Every Spring on my back as a baby. Uh, I was raised in these Texas and I got away with the pretty privilege of being exotic. And I got to tell you, I'm not even that pretty probably a 5, uh, and that was raised inheriting my parents' trauma. So, I like to share a little bit about my family and that trauma, my family, fled Columbia, in the 1980s to escape the pillage of our private property. Um, with the murders of 3, uncles executed off a bridge. My mom thought her options were really limited limited. So through the trauma of the tears and the turmoil of immigrating to a new land, not knowing the language, my family somehow made By the grace of God. Uh, we got to live our and achieve the American dream. I'm proud to be an American and what I've accomplished a professionally but more. So I'm proud of what I've given back. What I've given back is, I've worked with the homeless in Dallas, and I've advocated for them in front of city council. I've raised money for people with disabilities through ability connection, I've served on numerous nonprofit boards to encourage more. People more minorities to enter the stem field. And I've started, um, I've actually gone to Geneva through the world economic Forum to work with Asylum, Seekers there, and I started an international business in Africa and have uh, We've hired dozens of people there. And we've done me, and my family have done, much more than that. And after all of this, I just want to say all these years. I've just wanted to give back, I've wanted to provide value. And I've wanted to prove my worth that prove that I was worthy of that US citizenship, in the words of JC. And my first song, when I was born, it was sworn, I wasn't going to be s***. Sorry about that. Um, I had to pull the opposite of that, so I yearned back to give back to this country. I risk a lot by standing up here. Um, I know that there's a lot of vitriol right now, but I think that it's too important not to not to stand up for what I believe in. Be because I'd like you to understand what happens. When you you give somebody an opportunity, this is what happens when we gave those immigrants an opportunity. And I want you to see directly firsthand the Return on your investment all those years ago. So today all of us in the Immigrant Community are living in fear and I don't want us to be ignorant to that. We are living in Co level lockdowns, not just immigrants but International students phds people from freaking Ivy Leagues are scared to go back. They're getting their visas. Rescinded. Listen, I'm not the smartest person and as we established, I'm not the prettiest, and we need more people to speak up. So I hope that more people will come. I hope more people will speak and people that are more powerful and prettier than I am. We'll use their voices. Thank you. Thank you very much. Uh, Miss Paula again. Uh, thank you to all of our speakers today. Um, I would like to note that this committee received 1 written public comment that you'll find included in your packet. Uh, there being no more speakers, the public comment period is concluded. uh, the first and only item on the agenda before our committee is a subject matter hearing with no votes to be taken on committee updates, including updates, about Federal immigration activity in the Chicago area, Good morning, uh, steamed a committee members and to members of the public both present and watching, uh, streaming welcome to today's immigration Committee hearing where we hope to share, updates related to the work, uh, the, uh, the city of Chicago and this committee are doing as it relates to immigration. Uh, when I was first appointed to be the chair of this committee, it was at a time when the time when the city of Chicago was just at the beginning of the exponential, influx of new arrivals being bussed to Chicago and an attempt by Texas governor, Greg Abbott to create chaos and division here in our city. Uh, since that time more than 50,000, new arrivals have come to Chicago in the beginning of the crisis. We saw tens of thousands of people, living out of police, stations and airports, and some on the street. As we all saw bus, after bus of new arrivals reached Chicago, I and the committee team worked to support the city's operations to provide public transparency, and accountability, on the new arrivals Mission, and to partner with mutual Aid, groups to connect new arrivals with resources, when the city was not able to provide them, We hosted know your rights trainings for new arrivals to make sure they understood their civil rights resources, and responsibilities as residents of our city. We create an immigration task force of Alders to help in holding the administration accountable and to help the ward offices. Best understand how to provide help to their communities and to be up-to-date on the latest information. We also worked hard to share the information, we received on the ground, to the administration from recommending a unified shelter system to avoid exacerbating existing tensions in our city, to raising up concerns about contractors, like garter world and favorite Staffing. Uh, when the administration implemented, the 60-day shelter policy, we publicly opposed the decision to evict people from shelters and were able to successfully delay implementation of the eviction process until winter was over. Now, the new arrivals Mission has concluded but the crisis is not over. The 50,000, people who came to us are still here. Some of them had found housing and some are still navigating the city's shelter system. Many received temporary protected status through the previous administration, at the presidential level and were able to secure work authorizations. And now in the new Administration, many more will be deprived of that status In the first few months of this Administration we have seen clearly the value they hold for the rights of immigrants and refugees. We have seen their attempts to ignore due process by fast-tracking and mass deportation without regard to fair and legal due process. We have seen students rip from their homes and deprived of their green cards because they spoke out and protested and violation of the First Amendment rights. We have seen videos celebrating undocumented immigrants, being Shackled, and loaded onto deportation flights. We have seen this Administration rely on an 18th century law that led to the mass internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. To justify sending thousands of Venezuelans, to El Salvador, and we have seen them refuse the court order to send them back to the US. These are deeply scary times, not only for immigrants and refugees, but for all Americans who value our rights and freedoms because we know where this kind of disregard for Humanity leads, At this time, it is more important than ever that we work. As a unified front to uphold the values of the city and live up to the mission of this committee to ensure that we protect the civil rights of immigrants and refugees in our city. During this hearing, you will hear from some of our partners on the impact of these Federal actions on Chicago, immigrant and Refugee communities. As a committee, we are committed to continuing to provide the transparency and accountability that we have provided since the beginning of this term. We'll continue to partner with immigration attorneys to host monthly, briefings to ensure that everyone who works with immigrant and Refugee committees as Captain informed on the changing Federal landscape around immigration. So they can better serve their communities. We will continue to host know your rights training is around the city to ensure that all immigrants and refugees are aware of their rights and can get connected to resources. And we will continue to stand up for the rights of every immigrant and Refugee in the city. Because we know that we are stronger together. We thank you for joining us in this work. Uh, we will now start the presentation. Sorry. Got it. Uh, alderwoman Gutierrez, I see you're here. Got you? And we see all the women Crews, who was a lot to rule. 59 is also, uh, with us virtually All right. Yeah. Okay, so we're going to go over a number of things. We had actually originally reached out. Here's the agenda, we're going to go over the mayor's office response to our request to testify before this committee at this meeting. Well, go over the reporting on the work being done by the committee on immigrant Refugee Rights. The work that has been done and continues to be done. And then we have subject matter hearing uh with Katarina Ramos from the national immigrant Justice Center to go over some of the latest federal information. So, we had reached out to the mayor's office on request of the following parties, to be present to the public for this hearing, uh, we requested for, uh, Deputy Mayor matis pain or representative from the mayor's office on immigrant migrant and Refugee Rights to attend, as well as Deputy Mayor, Gary and Gatewood or representative from mayor's office of community, safety and wanting to learn about any interactions between CPD and Ice. As we had heard committee members and council members in the public, ask about it. Uh, we'd also uh, requested for superintendent, Larry Snelling or representative from Chicago Police Department uh, to come Uh, we invited them to speak, uh, they declined on the recommendation of the Department of Law. Uh, they did however, send us a memorandum, which is here. We'll make that available to everyone. Uh, so I'll read what they said, the mayor's office and City Department's, appreciate the invitation by chairman Vasquez to testify at the Committee hearing taking place on Tuesday, March 18th. Due to ongoing Federal litigation City departments and agencies are unable to appear at or participate in today's subject matter hearing we respectfully request your understanding under the circumstances and remain committed to engaging at an appropriate time consistent with the constraints of the ongoing legal proceedings. Uh, thank you for your partnership and support. Um, for all they also outlined additional information as far as when the appropriate time will be, we have no idea of that. So we'll continue to ask out until we get some response. Uh, here's what we received in questions about the, uh, budget how much is being spent on the Migra Mission. Uh, the specifics about the cost of the new arrivals Mission. Continue to be accessible on the city's cost dashboard via chicago.gov support. Uh, the committee did the extra work of going to the site. So we have those uh presentation to share as far as what's provided on the dashboard. So uh, as you look at the bottom, the cumulative total of what's being spent is 638 million. Uh, by cumulative, that means not only the city's portion. Also the state and federal as it relates to the share, we've got, uh, the following Uh, graph. So As I stated this, the total was 638, um, Grant funds total 270 million. Uh the corporate fund which is the city's amount of spend uh related to the mission over the 2 years is 268 million. Next in asking about uh CPD and Ice interactions, the administration's response, uh, was from the mayor's office of community safety the Illinois. Trust act prohibits local law, enforcement agencies from assisting Federal immigration enforcement operations, transferring individuals, in the immigration, custody are sharing information with immigration agents unless in connection with criminal enforcement. Pursuant to chapter 2-1 173 of the welcoming city ordinance. The Chicago Police Department submits a quarterly report to the office of the mayor and the office of the Inspector General, describing the compliance with this chapter in the preceding quarter, which includes a list of the notifications made by CPD to the office of emergency management and Communications with events. Describing a request for assistance with this enforcement of federal civil immigration law. With regards to immigration detainers, or administrative warrants received by CPD, that are related to enforcement of civil immigration law. The quarterly report will also list the date that CPD received the immigration detainer or administrative warrant and whether CPD transferred, the individual subject, to the immigration detainer or administrative warrant to a federal, agency's custody and if so which agency Quarterly reports are available online on the Publications page of the office of the Inspector General. Uh, so that's IG chicago.org Publications. Similarly, our committee went to the website to pull that information to share. so we've got a graph here that shows about 19 interceptions uh that may have occurred 10, sorry, 10 interactions that may have occurred. Um, with not much detail as to what occurred in any of them. It's got pretty much a, a log file number. So uh, we believe that the committee that's it's an adequate as far as getting information on. What's going on, whether we're doing it publicly or in a briefing, we've not received much more information than this. And so we will be looking to see if there's amendments to Municipal Code that could provide some level of insight, uh, just wanted to share the information that is on the website. Um, we did not want to just point people to a website without showing you what's there. Next, the part of the response from the mayor's office of immigrant migrant and Refugee Rights. Uh, we received at IMR has worked in collaboration with City, departments, and Community organizations, to inform the public about rights and resources related to immigration policy. In addition to know your rights, presentations IMR has also made available a comprehensive resource guide available in multiple languages. This guided designed to provide Chicagoans with information about their legal rights. The IMR team has also worked with the Department of Law to provide guidance, to City departments and sister agencies on how to respond to Federal immigration enforcement activity at Government properties in compliance with local state and federal laws. I'm a remain steadfast in our commitment to serving all Chicagoans and we welcome, any follow-up questions that may arise to the chair as we navigate these uncertain and challenging times. Uh, so you see in the comments if you have any questions or follow-ups, please send them through the chair. We'll then send to our to get some level of response. Thank you. That is the extent of the communications we received from the administration related to testifying at the hearing. Uh, we'll now start, uh, reporting update on the work that the committee has been doing, uh, since really being this committee. And, uh, this term We'll go over the hearing calendar in 23, and 24. Uh as well as 2024 Citywide engagement efforts and 2025 Citywide engagement Outlook and planning. Uh so we'll go over those uh, different sections now. So in 2023, we held committee hearings on June 28th. July 26th uh in August the committee's don't uh have hearings at all in City Council in September. We had a hearing in October and November it was budget season at which time, uh, we did not felt feel that it would be uh, As accessible, given how much time is being spent on the budget season, uh, and then December 7th. We had a hearing, uh, as well. Uh, which we heard a resolution calling for work, permits, for all introduced by all other person Fuentes, uh, as well as discuss, discussing African immigration Haitian migration, and the history of the welcoming city ordinance. so that was in 2023 in 2024, we had a hearing uh January 30th to discuss the landing Zone conditions and shelter conditions as well as grievance procedure. Uh, March 28th, uh, being that it was already late in January. So, rather than doing a February 1. We went right into March. We did had an ordinance ordinance calling, for the migrant shelter, eviction portal. It was when it passed through this committee and then led to the administration creating a portal to track the shelter evictions that have been happening. Uh, June 2024. We were scheduled to have a hearing uh, to hear all their person Raymond Lopez's, uh, or resolution regarding you, uh, student visas. That was later canceled due to Alderman Lopez, not having speakers ready to testify before this committee. So that was then pushed back and we did 2 hearings in July, uh, July 2nd. We had a hearing on the student visas now that we had the people ready to testify, uh, after, uh, in that same meeting we had a resolution, calling our President Biden expand TPS status as well as, uh, on the agenda. We're, uh, he has hearing on extreme weather conditions, uh, Planning by the city, as we were hearing about those conditions in real time. Uh, July 23rd. We had a hearing regarding ending mayor Johnson's, eviction policy, Uh, in August, as I stated before, there were no committee hearings as there are no committee hearings uh, that occur during August. September. We had a hearing that was canceled due to a lack of Quorum attendance, October November and December was budget season of this year. So, again, as I was taking up the majority of the work of this Council, uh, it was not feasible to have immigration Committee hearing on the December 20th of 2024, Mayor Johnson and announced the end of the migrant mission. So that's a breakdown of the hearings that we had for both years. Uh, what we did also have in 2024, in addition to hearings was a number of Citywide engagement efforts. So this committee, not only does the work of a committee. It is now also, sometimes a quasi Department uh, doing work on the ground as it relates to engagement efforts support of different organizations. Even, uh, constituent requests related to immigration that we'd gotten from, uh, offices across the city of Chicago. So here's the event types that we also work to organize and lead on as a committee. We had to know your rights trainings and resource fairs. So we heard from new arrivals and Advocates that they needed information on their rights and responsibilities that Chicagoans. So, we made sure to have these workshops provide information on cred, criminal law, cultural norms norms city, state and County programs, and pro, and resources that were available. And we had partnered with Community organizations, to have these events, We also partnered with uh City Clerk and a Valencia to have City key uh events and resource fairs. So we work with organizations. There are similarly to register people for City key events and then to provide resources, to those events We also have legal clinics, where we partnered, uh, we heard from new arrivals that not knowing how to navigate through the immigration policy and system. They needed application assistance, for TPS and work permits when necessary, we partnered to, for those legal, uh, clinics We also engage in mutual Aid rapid response. So, when we had, uh, thousands of people living in police stations, it was not city government. That was able to provide the resources. It was volunteers everywhere. Across the city getting resources together say getting funds together for food delivering blankets, uh and rapid response. Teams are currently working. So we partner with them uh and also amplify their efforts through this committee. We also held informational seminars where we co-hosted educational seminars on topics like Dhaka Court, proceedings and federal immigration Relief options and we had presentations and we're also participating and working groups. So we're invited to speak across the city about what was happening. Um demystifying some of the operations and programs. The city has answering questions that people just had in general, not understanding what the immigration process was or what was happening in the city. We also participated in groups like The 1 of data working group and the Chicago was with you task force. So in the first quarter of 2021, we had a know, your rights training on February 26th, a legal clinic, on March 9th uh a city key event on March 19th, I know your rights training on March 22nd. So for events in that first quarter with the various Partners around various parts of town In Q2, we had a legal clinic on April 27th. Uh, we helped organize a legal clinic on May 11th and partnership with the Chicago Federation of Labor and alter. Um, in Conway May 16th, we had a know your rights training, uh, May 23rd. And another another know, your rights training and focus on the Haitian Community, with the haitian-american Museum of Chicago and family, focus on May 30th. I know your training uh, and pilson uh, in partnership with the resurrection project and other groups. June 11th, a city key event in uh, pilson with clerk, Valencia and Alderman s show Lopez. in Q3 of 2024, we had a city key event on July 18th, under your rights training on July 25th. New arrivals resource Fair, August 6th with Alder person, alderwoman clay. Uh, August 8th, I know your rights training, August 16th a business quarter Community ambassadors, business Workshop, August 17th, a resilient communities and allies seminar with environmental justice. August 29th and know your rights training uh near South with state senator Sonia Harper. September 17th, a resilient communities, and Ally seminar with trp and Alianza Americas. September September 21st. I know your rights training, uh, with the mayor's office in Alderman Conway. In Q4. October 7th, we had a new arrivals resource Fair, October 10th another resilient communities and Ally seminar, October 24th. I know your rights training in little village with Alderman Rodriguez, October 27th, Brazilian communities and allies seminar with the Consulate, General of Mexico. November 14th. I know your rights training in Marquette Park, November 16th at Mobile DMV event in budong Goods, with Secretary of State Alexi giannoulias. November 21st, a resilient communities and Ally seminar with trp. December 5th. I know your rights training in Kenwood, know, uh, December 5th. A business quarter Community, Ambassador training with the Illinois, spanic Chamber of Commerce and December 10th. A city key event in Belmont, Cregan with clerk, Valencia, and Metropolitan Family Services. All, in all we had, uh, 29 engagement events across the city of Chicago, plus the committee. Hearings plus the data reporting on. Welcome to chicago.org the tracking website created by this committee on immigrant and Refugee Rights. Here's some pictures from some of the events. We've got more. But these are the ones for this side. I now, see the alderman Rodriguez is present for Quorum. Thank you very much. So that's what we did in 2023 and 2024. Want to make sure people see a return on their investment for the committee. In 2025. Uh what we do, what we are doing is positioning and pivoting from a monthly hearing process during the migrant mission to quarterly hearings. So, in those quarterly hearings, similarly, as we just reported out, we'll be reporting out the committee work being done quarter by quarter. Uh, if any of the colleagues here, any of the members or any of the members of the city council want to partner to, for some of these events, please reach out to our office. We are more than happy to do. So, uh, we'll make sure you all get mentioned in the next quarterly. Hearing to get your credit for partnering up with the committee. Thank you so much. Uh, we also have hearings, uh, for introduced legislation that any of the sponsors want to advance whether they're in the committee, or in the council. So, if you got some resolutions or legislations step, right up, happy to have the hearings, Uh, we'll have immigration briefings. Uh, we'll get into that in a minute more know your rights and immigration trainings. And we have the Chicago's with you task force working group, uh, as well as our own legislative and policy focused for the committee. so as we uh began uh in February, we are doing monthly virtual briefings uh immigration briefings with lawyers advocacy groups, covering high impact Federal and local immigration actions. As we know this is all changing in real time constantly, we want to have regular hearings, and briefings and updates. So, these are happening uh as I said said monthly online, you can register at bit.ly cirr, all caps capital B briefing, uh, there's QR code as well. So in February we cover the lake and Riley act. The change of immigration options, including TPS parole, Asylum, CBP 1 program. Uh we updated on some of the uh concerns over the immigration enforcement changes, Fourth Amendment violations. And attempt to curb service providers. Uh, March's topic will likely include the state of DACA attempt to curb public benefits, immigration registration program. And First Amendment violations, So we have that shared out. We also have a committee newsletter, we share out on a regular basis that will have the links to be able to jump on the briefings or share them with your communities as well through your new newsletters. We're also having immigration updates and know your rights trainings. So there's a trains for immigrant and Refugee communities and organizations serving those communities on their civil rights and immigration resources. As we know the mayor's office has been doing know your rights training. A lot of altars across the city in partnership with Community organizations are also doing know your rights training. Uh, the committee is doing them as well. Um, so we Have a Hindu Udo speaking small business owner, going through an I9 audit needs different research and training. So I guess this is an example. The Hindi. For doing that. That's the next 1 that we're doing. Got my my apologies. So the next 1 will be a Hindu or to speaking know your rights training. So we're all looking at different communities to also address in the languages necessary we are in partnership with organizations that speak those languages as a city is inadequate and its resources to do so Uh, select trainings were also recorded and can be found on our YouTube channel. We can then share that information as well. Uh, we are also Partners in the Chicago is with you task force. So currently we're partners with clerk Valencia. Uh Deputy Mayor Leon uh And what we're doing is, we're comprising stakeholders, uh, representative stakeholders, from City, departments, sister agencies, like the CTA, for example, Community organizations, and nonprofits immigration work. Organizations impacted you, uh unions like Arash Chicago and other industry stakeholders. Uh we convene a table monthly in order to talk to different experiences that are happening on the ground and also what we want to do, proactively to address issues that we're seeing uh it was initially launched uh the Chicago Zoo task force in 2016 by clerk Valencia uh in response to What we're seeing happen. Now, again, in this Administration, it was happening. The first time they were in office. So, the focus then was on, Mental Health, Legal Services, diversity, training for employers, uh, education to ensure the city delivered comprehensive services to refugees and disenfranchised communities. Uh, what we're doing in 2025, is the sort of reframing and refocusing efforts. So this past month, the Chicago is with you task force convened, uh, to organize efforts around 4 areas of focus and have created 4 subcommittees to start doing this work. Uh, first is reframing the narrative, uh, as we've seen in other cities, Boston is a good example. They've actually talked through campaigns about what it means to be a Boston Bostonian regardless, uh, you know, citizenship stand status, uh, Talked to the stories related to the history and impact of immigration in Chicago. Uh the history of immigration policy and how it has changed and how it hasn't changed in the past 3 uh decades. Uh, and looking through something that might be called. We are Chicago to similarly get information out. Uh and really start healing. Some of the breaches that have been happening due to the Past 2 years of what have been going on here. Uh, we also have a business Corridor support subcommittee. So that support for local, businesses are impacted by the loss of traffic due to the ice raids. And a lot, the loss of Street vendors in certain business, districts of businesses, coming out of the changes on business hours and really focusing on the economic impact, but also engaging with Street vendors and Street Peddler populations and partnering with the Chambers of Commerce to better establish communication there so that there isn't conflict that continues to to grow. uh, next is a mental health support, task force, connecting, support, organizations, and resources with those affected by the trauma, associated with migration family, separation mental health, disorders, and even services, for those who serve those who are traumatized, And finally legal fund efforts. So, the clerk, um, is really focused on reframing legal funds and, uh, framing them in a way where it's addressing the need of multiple populations. So, not only those who need immigration lawyers, but really also those who are enter re-entering Society after incarceration. Again, when you look at the systems and you create them in a divided format, you divide people. So looking to bring more folks together is the intent of the Chicago is with you task force, uh, as we continue to develop those different subcommittees will report that information out of the committee as well. Uh, Community engagement in 2025, we'll get back to what we've done so far. February 11th. We had to know your rights training with iser, February 25th. Uh, there was a immigration briefing with UIC law and nijc February 26th. I know your rights training for nonprofit, organizations, March 11th. I know your rights training for businesses and partnership with the rise of Chicago, March 12th. I know your rights training, uh, in the 40th Ward for CPS schools and families with the indo-american center as well. Uh, we are planning in progress. A March 25th briefing, uh sorry uh April 11th, immigration briefing, uh the online 1, my apologies, April 11th and know your rights training for nonprofit organizations, and in April 2025 right now, another immigration briefing and to know your rights trainings, 1 is Spanish 1 in Hindi, Udo in Arabic. Again, if people want to partner on planning any events in any part of town, we are more than Happy to be there and partner with you to talk to the organizations in the area to support those efforts as well. Now, our 2025 legislative and policy Focus. Um, we'll start with like the things that we really want to work on and we're currently communication with stakeholders. Uh, we're looking at street vendor legislation. So currently the municipal code, only speaks to how certain Populations and culture, prepare food. It's not comprehensive enough for all the different street vendors that are out there, but we also want to partner with different organizations. Different communities, right? Uh, in Chinatown, for example, there's Asian community and little village. You've got a Mexican Community. We've also got the black community looking to figure out how to set up vendors if they can't afford to do a pop-up shop and how to get them started as entrepreneurs, we want to do a comprehensive effort that then immense the street vendor Municipal Code, knowing that it's better to work in Coalition and address the different concerns. We might hear from different populations. If any of you have any relationships with any Street vendors, or anyone interested in becoming a street vendor, we want to get that information to make sure that we just make all these changes at once rather than continue and to come back and forth. We also will continue the work on trying to get the city's language access, where it needs to be. It has been woefully inadequate. There has been a task force that sometimes meets sometime doesn't. And so, we are going to continue to push on having actual engagement, and task force. And looking at what some of the contracts related to the language, uh, services are to expand them. So the ward office is going to have them and they were addressing things uh, in a more wholesome manner. A wholesome, I should say. Uh, we're also be communicating more Federal immigration actions on our website. Welcome to chicago.org as we know things continue to change. We'll continue canvasing and connecting Street Peddlers, to child care. Education job opportunities as well as domestic violence and human trafficking, prevention, resources. And we want to deepen the understanding of City, Chicago finances to reduce inefficiencies and rather utilize funds to support all vulnerable communities. Uh we also wanted to go through some information we received uh yesterday. So a number of the Committees received uh information on encumbrances to the committees or Cuts. So here are the cuts to all of the Committees and an attempt to bring down savings or to bring savings to the administration and trying to figure out a budget. As you all can see all the Committees received some level of cut. an average of that. Cut was, uh, 4.72 percent, uh, this committee received the largest cut, uh, 10.3 percent cut. Uh, and then we wanted to put the percentages as opposed to the amount, but both are there. Knowing that some committees have much larger amount to begin with. Uh, so again, we'll be following up with the administration and the budget office to try to understand what the differences and the cuts and how that was determined. Uh, it does not appear Equitable. But right now we just received the information yesterday. So that is all. We've got to present happy to answer questions. uh, chairwoman dell Uh, thank you Mr. Chairman um, not quite understanding why we're going through all of the work of the committee but I guess you have a reason for that. I can answer. We didn't have. We did not have the administration here. So we also had to make sure we had enough. I understood that part but the whole Uh, listing of everything that was done month by month by month. I've never seen that done before. Sure it's fine. Um, would like to make sure that you add in to your presentation for future maybe this 1. The fact that the African diaspora advisory Council was uh uh created in. I think it was September of last year so somewhere that needs to be um included in the presentation and uh would hope that they would be asked. So the director of that Council and some of their members would be asked to come down and give a presentation on some of the things that they've been doing over time. Yes, we we would love that. We'd also love to be invited. So we can also because we didn't know how many meetings have happened and what work to do, but absolutely. We want to make sure that we're focusing on those efforts. So happy to partner with you and other women Taylor. Um, because I know we had had conversations about having. They have a staff person in the mayor's office. Her name is Nika obasi. Um, maybe someone from the committee could reach out to her. Yeah, I think we've been we've engaged, but yeah, I want to make sure. Because as you can tell, sometimes the office and I understand it because of the lawsuit they're in is a little more hesitant to come out full force. And so I think partnering and creating that platform but we absolutely want to do. So thank you for that. Any other questions, Alderman Rodriguez? Um, just in a context of this conversation, I just wanted to say a couple things 1. Thank you, you know, obviously, the committee may may not have been meeting but it's definitely putting in the work. Uh, so I commend the committee staff, I know I've been You you've been to my ward and uh multiple times. I know your right stuff. So just appreciate that. The 1 thing I did want to do in this in this atmosphere is commend. Um the 4 Mayors who went before um Congress. First of all they accepted the challenge and secondly they really delivered for big cities. Across our country. Um, the fact is is that we know that Sanctuary cities are safer communities, um, and that we have an excellent policy. I was just privy to some polling data that's say States, quite clearly that um a significant significant 3 about 3 quarters of Chicago Ones believes that believe that we should not be coordinating, um, with federal agents. So, I I um I want to I want to commend you for your work. I think part of that reason is the work of our our Council persons here. The fact that you know, all the women dial gets out there and make sure that she's pressing for for Haitian immigrants and other immigrants, uh, of the African diaspora that our Northside brother and sisters like Alder wues, who are Puerto Rican and, and, and citizens of this country care. So much about the Immigrant population and see us as brothers and sisters. And I don't want to name too many folks. I just stopped there because I can name everyone on the committee, uh, who does some great work but you know, I just want to commend this body, we got a lot more work to do. I mean, the fact is is that there's still a significant challenge. As it relates uh to dealing with this Federal Administration, they're presenting themselves towards to us. Um, you know, but I, you know, I also in that same saw that the issue immigration is way down the list as far as a concern for Chicago. And so, that's, it's at the bottom of the list now. Um, with that said, it's still an still something we need to work on and make sure that we as a city and as a committee are doing the people's work, to make sure that those who are coming to our country are doing. So uh in in a lawful manner the fact is is that I think we we've had resolutions here that call on the federal government on comprar to to enact comprehensive immigration reform which is truly the real answer uh, to this issue. Um, but we know that the federal government will not act, uh, at least in this Administration, I'm pretty sure given their previous, uh, given the precedent of them basically, destroying comprehensive, immigration reform, and their efforts. So, you know, I just want to, uh, Thank you for your leadership on this. I I, I also, you know, welcome some of the critiques as well. Look, I I know there are other committees, you know, that that the, the budget situation, you know, I thought I gave a higher percentage and you notice there, I want that to be on record. Uh, but regardless, um, I, you know, I think this meeting was timely and I'm looking forward to the To the legislative work that we got to get to thank you. Thank you. I, I appreciate, uh, the comments as well, and really do want to commend our colleagues because I think we know when you're serving in this role, you're serving the entire community and you know things can be as they had had been for the past years chaotic at times and it was intentional coming from the federal government. And so seeing the different colleagues here, step up to address. Those issues is something we want to make sure we come in as well. So thank you for that, uh, all the person Fuentes. Thank you, chairman. Uh I I appreciate sort of the articulation of the work and I know we're going to jump into some uh some arguments and and uh, Having heard us, you know, walking through some of the federal policies, the impact us at the local level and I know we're going to go to the lake and Riley Bill, and what are the implications there? There are, uh, several executive orders, and things that we see happen every day, sort of, even the might the immigration and deportation patterns of deporting individuals that have working visas, um, or green cards, right? So we're not even respecting the process, the individuals have gone through um to have residents here in the United States. Is there a plan to sort of have committee hearings in a Cadence that allows us to understand the federal implications at the local level? I know there is this space of briefings uh, that take place wondering what sort of the quarterly schedule can look like so that we can keep up um, with what's happening at the federal level. Look ice has been in my ward. Um, about every week for the past 4 weeks, um, and taking individuals that don't have criminal records, uh, taking individuals that have visas and green cards, right? And so sort of this rhetoric that's being put out that we're only deporting. Uh, criminals is just not what we're seeing. On the day-to-day and, uh, hosting on your rights workshops and being able to have rapid response. Teams are obviously the things that our communities are showing up for uh, but wondering what our other avenues that we can take. Maybe we address that in this uh subject matter hearing. And so I don't want to preface anything but would love to dive in. Yeah, thank you for that. Um, I think something that we may have all felt now 2 months into this Administration is that trying to keep up to the PACE. It's something that's extremely draining and exhausting. And in some ways, not as feasible, even if you did a monthly 1, right, they're changing things week over week. And so, I think by having the briefings plus the quarterly hearings plus the on the ground efforts to get the information, um, we're able to reach the most amount of people because I think something that we're also recognizing is even when we were, hearings right over, in this chamber, as we're kind of information out but whatever is possible. So the most people can understand it but um definitely uh point noted and want to make sure we're continuing and improve so part of to, uh, to to your point and and chairwoman Dallas question. Part of the reason it's showing this is to hold ourselves accountable too. Right, so people know what exactly is the committee doing besides hearings and making sure that people see all of that work being done. And I think there's members even of the council, and of the committee that may not know that all these, uh, different engagement efforts are happening. And if you do know, you might say, well, I haven't seen 1 in my ward yet. So, can we get something going? We want to make sure we partner those efforts. Absolutely and yeah, definitely. As far as the federal questions, we'll have nijc here to speak on uh, any other questions? Yeah sure. Madal. It's just 1 more thing. Um, I I would ask before that chart goes public, that we check that because I'm not sure that is the latest information about what was uh, taken out of committee budgets. Because you had me down for 1 something percent when our percentage was actually 5.4, got it. So um um, I do have a chart here for you. Um, yep. Yeah, we had the first 2. We're trying to figure out the percentage on each. So absolutely, like the double check that. Yeah, we need to do that because that is public. It's in the public domain, right? And I just want to make sure that it's accurate information. Yeah, definitely we know the 10% is but 100%. So uh thank you for that. All right, so then we'll go to uh, next we've got Katerina Ramos, managing attorney with national immigrant Justice Center, uh, immigrant legal defense project and cities legal protection fund, who is kindly join us to provide updates on federal immigration activity in the Chicago area. Um food. If we could see if the presentations ready and get that loaded up. Chairman you I had my hand up. Oh I'm sorry my apologies. Uh yeah, Vice chair Taylor. Thank you. Um, I will say great job but I because y'all having 2 meetings at the same time, I'm missing all the information. I hope y'all don't do this again because this is not fair if we're in the business of trying to educate the folks who come to City Hall and educating all this, I didn't miss half of what I'm supposed to find out and know because I'm on another committee meet So I would appreciate if y'all wouldn't do this. Oh, I, I agree with you being also someone on the Ethics Committee so I think we're going to continue to figure out the scheduling as well. Um, but yeah, definitely noted I we do apologize for that. Did you have any follow-up questions? Yeah, I would like the presentation and also, to be able to make it public, so pleased, because we want to be able to share it out to our constituents. Absolutely, we'll make sure we've got it not only on the city clerk website. We'll put it on our YouTube channel as well. So that way we can share all the information out and include the slide deck too. All right, thank you very much, share. Uh, Vice chair. Uh, so as I mentioned, we have Karina Ramos from nijc who will be presenting updates on the federal immigration activity in Chicago area. So please, if you would Good morning. Thank you, chairman and good morning. Thank you very much to the committee for inviting me here to speak this morning. Um, and for giving us this opportunity to talk about some of the changes that we've been seeing. I also do want to thank you all for your committed support of our immigrant community and our immigrant brothers and sisters here in the city of Chicago. Um, as a proud resident of the 46th Ward. Um, it means a lot to know that, you know, this committee has our backs and is working to support our community. um, as mentioned, my name is Katarina Ramos. I am a managing attorney with the national immigrant Justice Center. I suspect most people know about nijc, um, but you know, just as a brief background, uh, we are a, uh, immigration nonprofit. We're headquartered here in Chicago. Um, and really our look is to try and provide comprehensive, uh, immigration, uh, reform advocacy and litigation, as well as direct Legal Services. Um, we do have our advocacy and policy team. We have our federal litigation team who I will be talking about a little bit today because they've been a bit busy. Um and then we also have direct Legal Services which is more where I fall. Um, but through Legal Services, we are able to provide legal representation to about 5,000 non-citizens. Each year, uh, quite a few of whom do reside in the city of Chicago. Um, So, just a brief overview of what is happening. And I will, you know, this was as of last night. As we mentioned, things are changing all the time, they change very quickly. Um, but we will do our best to try and make sure that we always have up-to-date information. I do want to talk about uh increases in enforcement, particularly what we've been seeing here in Chicago, some of the changes in law and how we're seeing those effects. And then, um, what we've been referring to is sort of the death, by a Thousand Cuts. All of the very small ways that have been used to break down our community. And to make this system challenging, um, I do just want to flag these 3 little girls in this uh photo are actually clients of mine. Um, they fled Afghanistan. Um Afghanistan. Um, and they are now permanent residents here in the United States. Um, and part of that is thanks to the legal protection fund, um, from the city of Chicago, uh, and they are wonderful. And I adore those little girls very much Um so I have here a list of some of the executive orders that we've seen. This is not a comprehensive list by any means. Um, a But they are all. All touching on the Immigrant Community. Um, the securing our borders 1 is 1 that comes up quite frequently that was 1, that was signed on January 20th. Um, we've also seen a number of other um orders coming down that have been affecting our community here in Chicago. um, in Chicago, we are seeing some changes in Trends, we've seen increased in arrests and in detentions, um, and as Elder person cuentas mentioned, we are seeing increased of arrests of people who have absolutely no criminal history who have not had any prior contact with immigration or with the Department of Homeland Security. We're seeing increases of arrests of people and their places of work. Um, we've also been seeing an increase in community arrests, uh so people who are in their homes or on the streets uh 1 family that we've saw uh, the father was arrested coming back from the grocery store. Um, so this is really a prevalent problem that we are seeing. Um, we're also seeing arrests of people who are already subject to electronic monitoring. So people who have come in contact with the immigration system, may have been released with the ability to check in Daily via an app which allows CBP to know that they are still in the Chicago area. Some of them do have um ankle monitors on. The idea is that they have this form of uh connection with CBP so that they are not arrested or detained. Um, while their cases are moving forward. We are seeing increased in people who are already under this observation being arrested and detained. Um, we've also seen an increase in ice expanding detention throughout the Midwest region. Now in Illinois. Um, you know, thanks to a lot of the litigation that we've had Statewide. There are no detention facilities here in the state of Illinois. However, all of our neighboring states, do have detention facilities and we have seen increases in expanding those facilities. I do want to flag that in Chicago. Thankfully, we have not had any reports of ice activity in or around the courthouse. However, we have heard of it outside of Chicago, we have heard in other areas. In the state of Illinois, ice is showing up at Courthouse. They are waiting to pick people up that way. We've also had reports of ice, um, waiting outside of, uh, law enforcement agencies to pick people up as they've been released their Um, we are engaging in litigation to try and protect our communities. Uh, the Caston Neva settlement, uh, was a settlement that we brought in 2019 and it's the idea is to, uh, limit warrantless arrests by Ice, uh, it does include include the city of Chicago. There is a 6 state region, uh, that responds to the Chicago's ice office and all of them are expected to abide by this settlement. Um, essentially it reinforces that an officer must have a warrant to make, um, a rest it. So they should not be engaging in collateral arrests, also known as Streetside arrests. So stopping people, um, while they are driving and asking what Their immigration statuses and using that information to detain them. Um if an officer does make an arrest without a warrant, they really have to document that they had probable cause to do that. They also have to show that they believe that the person was in violation of the immigration laws and that they think that person was a flight risk, and if they cannot establish the person as a Flight Risk, then they need to go get that warrant before they can go and detain this person. Um, we've really been trying to use the settlement to protect our community here in Chicago. If someone is detained in violation of the settlement, they should be released from Ice custody. If they've already paid a bond they should get their bond returned to them. Unfortunately, I know we no longer have cash bail here in Chicago. But for immigration purposes, it is still in effect. And for immigration purposes, you have to pay 100% of the bond that you are issued. Um, so this can be quite traumatizing for a lot of our, our community, family members. Um, we do have a reporting tool, I have the link here and I'm more than happy to send that around. If you do hear a violations of the settlement in your Wards, I would really encourage you to reach out to my team to me to our tool. We really want to make sure that we are staying on top of violations of the settlement. And that sort of transitions to my next slide in which we have started to see violations of the settlement. Um, we actually on last Friday, I believe did file a motion to enforce in federal court? Um, because since January 2025, we know of 22 known violations of the settlement, um, we know of at least 10 of them are here in the Chicago or in the clothes suburbs. Um, there are 12 that were restaurant workers in Missouri uh where the restaurant was raided. I do just want to flag 1 of the people that we are representing in the settlement is a US citizen. Um, he was born in Chicago, um, and he was handing out his resume at places of employment potential places of employment, and he was picked up by Ice. They detained him for 10 hours before they realized that he was a United States citizen. And then released him. Um, and even more worrisome, when we've asked ice for the paperwork on this, they have not presented it to us. Um, so this is really just worrisome in general. Um, as well as, you know, 9 people in Chicago and the nearest suburbs who have been stopped by Ice officials, um, many of whom were in their vehicles. Uh, the vast majority were leaving to go to work. Uh, we did have a few that were leaving to take their children to school. As I mentioned, there was a gentleman who was bringing groceries home to his family. I also just want to flag that the vast majority of these people have no criminal background. Um, quite a few of them have no background at all. Uh, the most extensive criminal background. We saw is that of the 22 people 1 person has a DUI. Some of them have come in contact with law enforcement for traffic related violations. Um, and some of those include driving without a license, um, which, you know, as we know up until we received the temporary visitor, driver's license was something that was very hard for a lot of our community members to overcome. Um, I do also want to just flag. We have a sample here of what an ice administrative warrant is. I do want to make sure that everyone is aware that this is not a Judicial warrant. This is a warrant that is issued by the Department of Homeland Security and that they do use these to try and detain people and arrest them. Um it is really important to me that we are getting this information out to our communities that this is not a Judicial warrant. This is not a warrant that is signed by a judge. It is signed by an ice officer or an ice agent. Um, so when we are having situations where ice officers are going to people's doors and our community where the write protect your Fourth Amendment rights, do you have a warrant to come into my home? um, If they have this document, this document is not a warrant. They should not be entering your home. With this document it is not signed by a judge so it is really important that we are communicating with our neighbors. To be aware of what these documents are. Now I do always want to say, don't open the door to see what the document is. Have them slide it under the door, have them, hold it up to a window. If you open that door, you are in effect allowing them into your home. Another really important uh, litigation that we're working on right now is the Gonzalez uh, case. Essentially this is a case that limits the use of immigration detainers. Um we don't have those thankfully in Chicago um or in the state of Illinois. But essentially through an immigration, detainer ice can reach out to local law enforcement and say we are aware that you have this person. Um we would like you to hold them for 48 hours until we can come. Pick them up. Uh, to give you an example of this before, uh, the trust act in Illinois. Way Forward act, I did have a client who was picked up by CPD. This is many, many years ago, uh for driving while on a cell phone. he was, uh, Held by CPD. He paid his fine and Ice came to the police station and picked him up. Um, so it is really critical that we have these Protections in place to protect our community against these detainers. 1 thing, that's really important about this Gonzalez settlement is even outside Illinois, so it's particularly Indiana Wisconsin. They now have to have um, centralized practices. All of these detainers are issued Now by a hub in California. They also cannot be issued after hours so between I believe it's, uh, 7 p.m. and 7 a.m. Or they cannot issue these detainers. Um, and that is Nationwide, even though that is the Hub is located in California. Um, but I really do want to empath emphasize that here in Chicago. Local authorities. Have no, do not have a responsibility or an authority to hold somebody for ice custody. All right, um, And this is just an example of what a detainer looks like. Um, just if you are curious, um, I did include that for you. Um, so what else are we seeing? We're in seeing increased enforcement. So we're seeing a focus on people who have prior removal orders. We're seeing the focus on people who have had contact with the criminal legal system. However, I want to stress, that, that is a very broad net. Um, it can be, um, it is being portrayed as sort of the worst of the worst are being picked up, but it can be people who've had very simple, uh, contact with the criminal legal system. Uh, we are seeing increased in for spent their We're seeing an increase in what the Department of Homeland Security refers to as collateral arrests. So when they go to make arrests based on their warrants and they happen to find somebody else in the home, Who is undocumented? They arrest that person as well. um, even though that is not the person that they were specifically looking for, um, we've also seen an increase in pressure for, uh, people particularly in detention to accept what's called a stipulated removal order. Essentially you are signing your own detention or your own deportation order, and you are waiving your right to have a hearing before a judge. Um, these are very worrisome. We've also had heard instances of people being told. Well, if you sign this, you can go home. And they think that they're being told, they can go home to their homes here in Chicago and that's not the case. They're signing their own deportation. Um, we've also seen increases in workplace enforcement, so I think we've been hearing a lot about increases in I9 audits. Um we've been hearing about workplace related rates. Um we're still we've heard some rumors around staffing agencies uh being subject to I9 audits. Um, these are all things that are continuing in our community. Unfortunately, we've also seen an expansion of expedited removal orders. Now, expedited removal orders came into the law in 1996. Uh, traditionally an expedited removal order says that if you are found within a 100 miles of the border and you have been in the United States for less than 2 years, you can be removed without having your hearing in front of an immigration judge. The current Administration is working to expand expedited removal orders and staying that they are now uh anywhere within the continental United United States if you come or within the United States, if you um come in contact with an immigration officer, and you've been here, less than 2 years. You are subject to this expedited removal order. You do not have a Right to appear before an immigration judge. um, we are really strongly encouraging people to be prepared to contest. These documentations obviously I'm an attorney. The first thing I want to tell everyone is you have a right to remain silent. Don't talk. um but in situations like this if there is a chance that someone is going to lose their right to appear in front of a judge, it is really important to say, I have been here for 2 years, I have documentation to prove it. Um so keeping pay stubs, keeping receipts, keeping bank statements phone bills, those are all really great ways to show that you've been physically present in the United States. Everyone D had a question. Thank you for your presentation. Very informative question. Uh, on this increase enforcement chart. What's the source of this data? Um, You know, let me check in with our policy team and I can get that for you. Okay. That uh number seems very high compared to the uh media reports that we see about The number of arrests even the number of detainees. Uh yeah I will check in, we're getting up to 40,000 that seems on a daily basis. That seems Quite High. Yeah, I will find where we got those numbers again. Thank you. Um really briefly. I also want to touch on some of the changes of law. What we're seeing this is, as of yesterday, as I said, things are changing all the time. I do just want to, oh, there's a typo, my apologies. Uh, I want to focus on, uh, a little bit on the lake and Riley act. I do want to talk about the alien enemies Act of 1798. Uh, some of the Border actions that we've seen and then parole and TPS, um, programs and how they are affecting our community as well. Um, so the lake and Riley Act is essentially subjecting people to mandatory detention. Um, now, mandatory detention is part of the immigration code. Uh it is in founded in a 236 ANC um establishing. There are reasons where someone could be subject to mandatory detention however, the lake and Riley act has significantly expanded this, and I really do want to flag That under the lake and Riley act. Um there is an element of due process that has been removed for our community members. It is no longer. If you were found guilty of a crime, it is no longer. If you have Khan been convicted, or pleaded to a crime, if you have been accused of a crime, In the United States. Um, and you come in contact with immigration, um, you will be detained. Um, so examples of the crimes that they are focusing on some of them uh are simple as shoplifting. Um, shoplifting alone right now will require, even if you have been accused, you have not appeared in court, you have not appeared before a jury of your peers. If you have been accused of shoplifting, you can be detained and deported from the United States. Um I really just want to flag that this is a huge problem. Um it's feels very contrary to the values that we hold such as our due process values. It's also a challenge for law enforcement because if you are trying to put somebody on trial and the person you are trying to investigate is in Immigration detention, it makes it very hard to find them. Um so this is really a problem that we are seeing um we and it um is really just challenging on a lot of levels. Um, we Um, we do think that there will be litigation challenging it and narrowing it, but I don't know that we'll be able to completely stop it from going into effect. Um, on a positive note, there are really strong arguments that this is not an retroactive, uh, law which means that any arrests that happened prior to the date, that the lack and Riley act went into law, should not count against somebody. Um, in Chicago, we are seeing this law being applied. Um, we are seeing immigration judges who are actively denying bond to individuals who would uh be subject to this mandatory detention under the lake and Riley act. We've seen some misapplication of this law, uh, here in the Chicago area by Chicago area by our immigration judges. Um, for example, arguing that it should not be uh, applied at retroactively. Um, I will say though, on a positive note, we have not had any reports of CPD sharing information with ice through the lake and Riley act now. I will flag, right? That there is a common, uh, security database and anytime somebody's fingerprints are run. They go to the FBI. They go through this common database that ice does have access to, but we have not seen reports of CPD, affirmatively sharing information, Um, another thing I just want to touch on is the alien enemies Act of 1798. Um, as mentioned previously, this was last used during World War II to detain, uh, Japanese uh, individuals. um, I would just stress that, if you read the act, it does say that you can only arrest and detain people with whom the United States is at War. Uh, from a country or excuse me, a national or foreign citizen of a country with whom the United States is at War. As far as I'm aware we are not actively at War um or risk necessarily that there is an entity that is being designated with whom we are at War. we do know that over the past weekend um about 100 Venezuelans were deported uh under this act that there were were at least 3 planes, uh, that had already left, uh, the United States, um, before the temporary restraining order went into place. Uh, there is currently litigation attempting to get those planes back. Um, We are as. As I, I think that litigation is even going on today. Um, the argument being they were still technically in the custody of US border officials when they landed in assador It is unknown. If there were any Chicagoans on that plane. have heard. This is very unsubstantiated. A rumor that there may have been 1 or 2 but I have not been able to substantiate that and unfortunately it is becoming very difficult to get any documentation about who was on those flights. Another thing that we're really seeing is the end to parole. Um, so that this started with the, uh, securing our borders executive order that was, uh, on Election Day or excuse me on inauguration day, and this essentially ended a lot of the parole programs that we have so uniting for Ukraine operation allies welcome, which was for Afghans. Um, there was a special parole processing program for Cubans Haitians nicaraguans and Venezuelans that would allow them to enter while their applications Filed by their family members were still pending. Um, it's also blocked individuals who have parole already from seeking, uh, other forms of relief or other forms of status. Um I do just want to flag that on January 28th, the Haitian Bridge Alliance uh did file. Um against this. They have requested an injunction to sort of put a halt to the end of these parole programs. Those cases are still moving through the court system, um, but hopefully we will be able to get those injunctions Um, TPS. I have this labeled as Venezuelan TPS but it has obviously expanded now to Ukraine and Haiti and a number of other countries as well. Um, prior to the end of the last Administration, uh, President Biden and secretary mayor did extend TPS for a number of countries through 2026. Um, however, uh, the current Administration decided to, uh, resend that determination. Um, so for example for Venezuela, uh, if they were granted TPS in 2023, their TPS will end in, I think, 2 weeks. Um, this means they will no longer be eligible for work permits. Um, they will no longer have protection from deportation. Um, they could be, uh, come targets for removal. Um, I do want to flag. There's been a significant number of litigation against this as well, so the national TPS Alliance has filed against it. Um, Casa has filed against it and then haitian-americans United. Uh, the Venezuelan Association of Massachusetts and undocu. Black have also filed restrict request, excuse me, requesting temporary, restraining orders and injunctions to try and stop. Um, the end of this TPS program. And then, what else are we seeing? Well, um, it's the little things, but it's often the little things that break us, right? Uh, we're seeing usayess resources being reallocated to fraud detection from their traditional app. Uh, uh, adjudication of applications. Um, we've been told that there will probably be interviews on all applications right now. Um, the blank spaces policy is starting to make a return, uh, this was a policy previously, which said that, if you were filling out your application and you left any blank space including a space where the computer would not, let you put any information, your application would automatically be rejected. Um, so you have to handwrite none Or Nah, in every single box. Um, and you do have to do it by hand because some of the forms asked for dates, but you can't put letters in a date box. um, this is something that as an attorney, I find frustrating, I cannot imagine being somebody who is uh trying to navigate the system by themselves how this would affect them. Um the prior uh under the last Trump Administration, they did redefine public charge. We suspect that we will start to see that again. Um, we are starting to already see an increase in fee waiver requests uh being rejected or denied um We know, we will see increases in filing fees. Um, and this was, um, this was a fun 1 last week. Uh, they announced, uh, that all of the forms essentially were expired, uh, retroactive to inauguration day. Um, and that they were saying that, as of that day, we could no longer file on any of the forms that we had prepared. Thankfully, there was push back, we did get a grace period on our forms, um, but it was it was a bit of a day waiting for the FedEx box to pull filings out so that we could get new signatures and explaining to clients why we had to get new signatures on their forms because as of 2 hours ago, the form was no longer valid. So things like this were going to continue to see um and we need to just continue to be prepared. I do want to end on a positive note though. Uh, we talked a lot about the know your rights presentations and I do want to thank all of you who've hosted them who've helped us with them who have led them in your communities. And I do just really want to say they are working. And I really appreciate all of the effort that we are all putting into our know, your rights presentations. Um, I also really appreciate we've had community members, who are not, um, you know, from an immigrant background, come to know your rights presentations and say, I just want to be here to help. So I really want to just thank you all for that. Thank you very much for the presentation. We'll now open it up to colleagues. Uh Alderman Rodriguez. All the person sir. Sorry. Uh, Thank you. I apologize. Uh, Thank you for the presentation. Um nijc does, some very important work in Chicago land. I would say Um I just learned that's not really a word, sorry in the Chicago area at any rate. Um, to the point I'm very interested in how the Judiciary is playing a role in Pausing, halting stopping. Um, some of these Federal efforts. And if you have an opinion on the matter, I'm also particularly interested Um, and maybe this is an offline conversation about Birthright citizenship, and the and the challenge that this Administration has posed there. If you've taken part of any of that litigation, um, and if there's a sense in the legal Community or the advocacy community on where that will land with the Supreme Courts, um, 1 of Um, the thoughts that I've heard is that, you know, um, Supreme Court, Justices don't need to be re-elected. They're there for life, so they don't have to face the Republican primary, um, and that could potentially be a good thing in that. The law is very clear. Uh, and if you could expound on what the law is, so folks can get a little bit on that issue as well. Yeah, sure. Um, so when we're looking at, uh, how the Judiciary is reacting, um, it is still, you know, I think we do see Trends with different parts of the country. Um, here in the seventh circuit for the most part, we we have a very favorable circuit, right? Um, federal circuit, um, when we have seen a lot of these cases come up, um, at the very least, the Judiciary has been willing to entertain our cases. Uh, is usually open to putting a temporary and restraining order or some form of injunction in place while these are continuing to move their way through the system. Um, that being said, that a lot of these cases I think are going to end up before the Supreme Court. so, there is going to be, um, Delay in getting a decision 1 way or the other. Um that being said I think to an extent that is a 1 way that we can continue to protect um members of our community. If you remember on the last Trump Administration, they attempted to end uh TPS for Honduras. El Salvador and Haiti. And there was a a lawsuit, we were able to get an injunction um and that took so long to work its way through the court system. Um, that eventually It became a non-issue, um, but we were able to allow people who at least had those statuses to continue to renew their statuses. To continue to renew their work permits. So I think there is definitely a role for the Judiciary in this. Um, I think that. Um, many of the issues that we are starting to see. Do. Pose intriguing questions. Um, particularly on a constitutional level, um, Birthright citizenship of course being 1 of those essentially under the 14th Amendment. If you are born in the United States, you are a national and a citizen of the United States. um, there is an effort right now. Uh, well, there's an exact executive order right now. Essentially, trying to strip that Birthright citizenship of anyone who is the, who is the child of someone? Who I believe was undocumented or did not have lawful status at the time that their uh, that their child was born. Now the 1 positive I will say is that this is not a retroactive it was effective as of the day that the executive order was signed um, It's to me. It seems to be very blatantly in violation of the 14th amendment in the Constitution to try and limit. uh, Birthright citizenship, and I would very much hope that the Supreme Court would interpret it the same way. But I am, I am not not on the Supreme Court, so I don't also want to speak for them. Thank you. Um, and just 1 more comment for my colleagues, our former housing commissioner Marisa, Novara just posted on our social media account a history of her Italian uh grandparents who came here in the early 1900s and their Journey uh, to Ellis Island was 1 where they bought a boat ticket. Got on the boat arrived, another Island, and we're processed, and they lived here for 5 years applied and became citizens. Uh seemed to work then and at that point in our nation's history our uh immigrant born population was actually per capita even higher than it is today. Um, so you know, there's a lot of, uh, miseducation out there. Um, as far as, you know, you know, my forefathers did it right, you know, yours should as well. Well, there was a real Sensical process that again I would hope that some some real reform would happen to make a sun School process here. Um, but uh, thank you very much for your presentation and for the time Mr. Chair. Thank you very much. Any other questions? Uh, alderman? Yeah, thank you so much for the presentation. So wondering with the current demands being what they are. Is nijc still processing affirmative Asylum cases in the same way. We were a few years ago The majority of our representation right now in Asylum cases is defensive um just acknowledging that there are not as many organizations that do defensive immigration representation. So defensive is in front of an immigration judge affirmative would be before the Asylum Office. Um, if someone does not win their case at the Asylum Office, they are then transferred to the Immigration Court to try and win their case before an immigration judge. Um, so for the most part, we have shifted a lot of our Focus to uh, very much defensive before an immigration judge acknowledging that for a lot of people, this is their last chance to prove their case. Um, and also just acknowledging that there are not as many nonprofit organizations that do defensive work. And so as we're looking at um whereas the best use for our resources we've been seeing it more on the defensive end and with with the demand on your lawyers which has always been high. It's never, there's always been a, a a crazy backlog with clients. Have you seen um, somewhat of a parallel increase in in pro bono? Um lawyers. Coming to volunteer. We have actually, which has been really lovely. Um, so we do have a really large network of pro bono, volunteer attorneys, who come and help us. Um, and we have seen, I think an increase in attorneys who are, uh, motivated and willing to come help help fill out applications. Um, I work with a lot of pro bono attorneys um, through, uh, 1 of the clinics that we work on and so it is really been wonderful to see that increase in people who do want to help. Um, I will just also say we've started doing um, prosay workshops uh, within nijc as well. And I know that there's some state funded ones as well. Um, essentially we are doing them for, uh, people who are seeking Asylum, who need help filling out the application. Um, we are not able to provide full representation to everybody who is trying to seek Asylum, but we can have some an attorney in the room who can help them navigate the forms that they are filling out the process. How to file it, how to serve opposing Council all of those elements. We're also doing uh, prosay workshops to help people who are already in removal proceedings who have moved and need to notify the court that they have changed their address. Um, if they are set for hearings in other states, uh, how to inform the court that they are currently living in Chicago and cannot travel to, um, you know, South Carolina to go to an immigration hearing. Um, and we're also working to help people who have Asylum applications pending um, to apply for their work permits, uh, sort of through these Pros say systems. So we are there, we're providing guidance. Guidance on the day that the application is filed or helping them get the application filed. Um, but then once it is filed, it is um, their application. Okay? Great. And have you seen on the work permit and just the ad in general? Have you seen have have they been coming through at at their normal Pace or you know, I don't know. Off the top of my head I'm trying to think back we have For the Asylum ones. I'm not entirely sure I would have to double check. Okay, um Our DACA ones are still tending to come through, pretty, pretty quickly. Fairly regularly, it it very much depends on the type of case. That underlines, the work permit. Um, for some people who are applying for permanent residents, they may get their permanent residence before they get their work permit. Okay. So it it sort of varies Case by case but I can look into the numbers too and get them to you. Great, perfect. And then I think, um, just because again thank you for coming in and I think with the the chair maybe we Can put out some language to older people. For their newsletters or other ways. They communicate just in sourcing additional lawyers from their communities that can help and ijc. I can say from experience. That nijc has a really strong training program that even for a I was a corporate lawyer. I didn't know where the courtroom was, right? Like it. It didn't do anything like that but you, you made it so simple that then Me in certain colleagues were able to go represent, you know, 25 plus, Asylum applicants and your San Diego office in Chicago. And I think right now there's so many people looking to find ways to help and volunteer that maybe um we can help you with that work. I know on your end, it probably gets to a point where volunteer management becomes really hard, but the thought is that lawyers, when they understand they have 1 client, right? We're not asking them to take several. Take a lot of ownership so I hope we can help you in that way. That would be lovely. Thank you. Thank you very much. Uh, chairwoman dell Yes. Hi. Thank you. Thank you for your presentation today. It was very informative learning, some things. Have you guys are you guys thinking at all about the uh and how it relates to, uh, the immigration activity. We see going on in the country, regarding the travel ban that was uh, you know, 41 You know, full bands and partial suspensions, for basically, black and brown countries. How are you guys thinking about that? Yeah, we're definitely monitoring that. Um, I suspect there will be. I I know there will be litigation. I don't know if it will be led by us, but when that does officially come out, I'm sure there will be litigation to put a stop to that or to try and enjoy that in some way shape or form. It is definitely something we've been watching very closely. I know initially it was supposed to come out last Tuesday and it did not. Um, but it is incredibly concerning um, and it is definitely something that we are We are keeping a very close eye. All right. And the impact on the work that you do just I mean yeah the timing of it is is Suspicious. Suspicious is a word for it. Yes. Um, yeah, I I think, um, You know, we we'll have to see exactly how it is worded and how it comes up, but I don't think that we will stop representing people um, just because of the ban, okay. Um, I think we're going to try and do our best that we can to continue to represent people and make sure that they have access. to options to information to Legal Services, because knowledge in and of itself is so important right now and good Knowledge from reliable sources. All right, and then my other question um related to you you mentioned the Venezuelan TPS, uh, termination. I believe there's still a TPS termination for for Haitians. Is that still in place? Yes, I didn't see it on your list. So I just wanted to make sure. Yes, the Haitian 1 is still on the list as is Ukraine. Um, I had focused on the Venezuelan 1 just because that is the 1 that is coming up the soonest with the April 5th deadline uh for the termination of that. But we are um, Aware of these other terminations that are coming and really the terrible effects that they're going to have on so many members of our community. And thankfully, there has been litigation to try and get this and joined um and you know we will we are doing our best right now to try and meet with clients who've had temporary protected status to see if they have any other legal recourse. If there's any other other way that we can help them get some sort of status um here in the United States. Okay, thank you so much. Appreciate what you do? Uh yeah, other person Fuentes. Just to uh add chairwoman Dow's point. When does the Ukraine and Haitian, TPS expire. I know the Venezuelan ones in April Venezuelans in April. Let me double check and I will get this for you. Thank you should have them memorized and I don't I apologize. All right. I've got uh, just 1 question of my own. Um so kind of shared um you mentioned like tracking on categories of interaction with the criminal justice system. We know that this Administration is trying to present any interactive action. That's kind of being the most severe uh obviously I I would not it's not a stretch to say that we don't trust that information uh coming from the federal government. Are you or or do you know of any organizations that are providing? Like the data on those different categories to say to your point? This person was for a DUI even though they're making it seem as though they're like, you know, a murderer. Right. Yes, yes. Um Let me get back to you on that. I know we have been sort of keeping track of it. Yeah, as we're seeing people um but I I don't know that we have an official number but I can definitely see if there is 1 and I do just want to flag. I know you know when you were talking about the task force and really trying to incorporate legal protection, fund being immigration but also re-entry into the community I think right now, that is so important, especially with how much, um, criminalization there is and how much overlap there is right now between the re-entry Community between our immigrant community and really, um, just everything we can do to support that process. I think is really critical. I mean a million percent. I mean the example you mentioned we're like a citizen got pulled over and detained, right? There's overlap in what that profiling can lead to, we know that there's folks who are born here who understand the challenges in like if you happen to look a certain way or a certain level of melanin in your skin, you're getting pulled over and it's a different experience. So finding where all these different communities have those coalitions is important for us. So, um, I wanted to thank you, I think it's not This is a moment in history where I think viewing the work that you all do and viewing you all as Patriots isn't an overstatement. You all are defending. What it means to have a democracy in this country as we're watching a tax on the Constitution. And, um, I don't I know that there's always been many fights but I can't understand what you all go through as it's changing minute by minute. So I want to thank you for that work. Uh, I want to thank you for making the time even to share this as I imagine. There's a full case load of items as soon as you get back to to your work. So um, Thank you, anything that this committee or the city can do to Aid in those efforts. Let us know. We will continue to do it. Um, and I really appreciate you being here. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Um, all right, as uh, questions have now concluded and there's no further business before the committee. May I have a motion to adjourn so moved by other person Fuentes uh, hearing no objection. So ordered this meeting of the committee on immigrant and Refugee Rights is now adjourned.