to order. We now have a roll call to establish Quorum. Please note that a, yes, B. Um, in response may be deemed as a, yes. Vote. When the Quorum call is um, or later items called chairman Telly arrows here. Vice chair. Lamont Robinson. Alderman Hall. Alderman Mitchell. Just saw him. Alderwoman Lee. Alderman. Curtis Alderwoman Taylor. Alderman Mosley. Alderwoman tabaris. Alderman Irving. Alderman, Cardona. Alderman spaz. Alderwoman nent. Alderman, de politano. Alderman kiten. Alderwoman clay. Alderwoman Silverstein. Alderman. Irvin's present. we have 11 members present, we do have a quorum of pursuant to rule 59 Alderman, Gardiner. Has requested uh, to appear by video conference. Can I get a motion for the approval of aldermen Gardner to appear? By remote means, So moved by. Alderman, Cardona, all those in favor. Say I All those opposed nay and opinion of the chair. The eyes have it, the motion carries Alderman. Gardner, are you present? Yes, sir, thank you chairman. Thank you. I made this time, we'll begin public, comment. Each speaker will be allowed at 3 minutes, our first speaker. Um for the day is Paul dravic Paul dravic Hi everybody. My name is Paul dravic, I'm a journalist with an outlet called The Gateway Fund. It, I'm here representing a uh, Save save, Illinois Coalition where we're trying to put together a petition with 350,000 signatures by March of 2026 to remove Sanctuary status from the state of Illinois. And the City of Chicago, uh, briefly my partner, Terry gnome and I, we have a podcast as well. Um, we've done a lot of reporting on the, the illegal immigration problem in Illinois, in the city of Chicago. And the reason being is when Brandon Johnson had, uh, started impounding buses that were coming from Texas to Chicago, they started coming into the suburbs. So we started paying attention, and we did multiple foyer requests and um, 1 of the things I'd like to point out is that through these foyer requests. We we noticed that with the illegal immigration problem that was being imported into Chicago. So, was a lot of crime and some disturbing crimes that we've uncovered. We can provide those foyer requests responses to you, but some of the crimes are disturbing. Uh, child abuse sexual assault, we found evidence of Human trafficking at some of these facilities, like The Standard Club of Chicago and, uh, the in Chicago, on some other areas. Now, I'm I live in the suburbs, I used to live in Chicago. My grandparents were raised here and, um, you know, I know it sounds weird me, being from the suburbs is coming here and speaking about this. But, you know, I I'm also a veteran, I fought in the Iraq War. And we've, we've interviewed people, uh, in the streets of Chicago homeless veterans, and the City of Chicago, not only Is importing these kind of crimes through with legal immigrants, but they're also spending 600 million plus dollars on these citizens. So, um, we're asking our police to manage citizens who who are who, who to manage non-citizens who are committing crimes while people are on the streets. Freezing, its 10 degrees outside right now. There's a legal immigrant. It's all across the city who have food shelter, right? And and and we're also engaging FEMA to help with this response. We have 20 uh, Congressional delegates who have written to FEMA asking for 20 million dollars of funding. Okay? So I just want you to know and I want you to report to the other aldermen at the city, council meeting that the city of Chicago. This is not, this is a not a partisan issue. The city of Chicago, the government of Chicago is sacrificing the Needs of its own citizens and leaving people out on the streets to die. And to lose limbs in the freezing temperatures, of Chicago, while non-citizens are are getting food shelter clothing and the same time, they're committing crimes against each other, but against the citizens, of the city of Chicago, like I said, sexual assault, human trafficking battery, theft, they're getting guns somehow, they're getting cars somehow. So thank you, Mr. David, our next speaker, Mr. Looks like Terry gnome Thank you for your time. My name's Terry Newsome. I'm elected committee man from Donna's Grove Township. I host the podcast behind the lines, and I'm also with the save Illinois Coalition. Why am I here from the suburbs? I'm here, because Chicago is welcoming city ordinance, this ordinance, the way it's currently written in its form, is not only dangerous to the citizens of Chicago. It's a problem for the whole Chicago land area, my neighbor was robbed by Venezuela and stun the block from me. It's not a Democrat Republican. Independent black white, hispanic Italian wealthy or low-income Province, American problem, wanting a safe Community for our families is not racist. It's not an anti-immigrant stance, my grandparents came to America from Italy. We Embrace legal immigrants while the port in criminal illegal immigrants who we can't Embrace while we can, uh, Deport a criminal illegal immigrants. The most significant risks are minorities, law enforcement and First Responders we've been lied to for years claiming illegal immigrants. Flooding Chicago engaged in fewer crimes than citizens, that's an absolute line of insult. Our intelligence, I have evidence to support my claims. I gather doesn't afford US from CPD to show the contrary. Every shelter I requested for, as I've received hundreds of violent despicable crimes that came from Within These shelters or those who use those addresses inside the shelters, there was evidence, there's a terror attacks sex trafficking, c*********, child, grooming sexual assault of minors, murder mass shootings gain crimes. Guns, stolen vehicles, prostitution drug dealing and and much more including, uh, vehicles are being given to these people. By the way, some of the most common crimes is spousal abuse. These men beat the crap out of their women. They strangle them, punch them in the face, hit them with the vortex phone, drag them by the hair, cut them with knives and other weapons in the face. They even beat their children to retaliate against their wives. The spousal abuse became such a significant problem. I acquired a 4 of where Catholic Charities, I'm a Catholic, not a good 1 uh Catholic charity, sent an email to the city of Chicago informing them, they had to reopen a shelter to house the growing number of Abused Women and Children. I want this Administration to explain why if these immigrants create less crimes than us? Then why are they required to go through multiple layers of security before answering the shelters? I was at Gage Park Standard Club in a Chicago, Little Village 72nd, and Cicero and others where I confronted ARA and I have evidence. I'll share with you guys and they're boldly flashing. Their gang signs at me when they're just coming into the United States if they're innocent. Asylum Seekers Why do they have to pass through all these metal detectors and handheld security ones? Multiple guarder World security guards bag searches. If these people commit such little crime. Why are we doing intensive security? Screening to make matters worse? We taxpayers are funding our own demise. We fund the transportation food, clothing, medical credit cards, utilities free, impounded cars and much more including the tax-funded vortex phone, which they use fake identities to commit crimes against the community. I urge the city to amend those Chicago's. Welcome city ordinance to prioritize American citizens before criminal illegal immigrants. And I have for anyone that wants, I have thousands of police voyages and evidence that I could share. Thank you, Mr. Gnome, our next speaker is Miss Jessica Jackson. Miss Jackson. the chair recognizes, um, ultimate Vasquez, that's present. Just as present. Miss Jackson. okay, well, the reality is that in order for our needs to met as Citizens and our concerns to be heard as Citizens. Citizens. The reality is, we really got to wait for the next 6 days until Donald Trump gets in office. Because when he gets in office, there will be a concern about the American citizens needs coming first. So, just hold on, just hold on. Like, all of us trying to do we just holding on. Until I help comes. All right. Now, with that being said, until then we have to suffer through silly things silly. Things like my ultimate. Greg Mitchell getting up and running when he see that, I'm gonna come to the mic because he know what happened on September 19th. He knows that you. Him. Bill Laurie and the M Williams went in that meeting with those public administrators and my case end up getting dismissed the next day. And you would think that you all would be so upset about that if you all were innocent in that. That you would fight for me and you will go against those white judges and those white public administrators that did it. But no instead the black Alderman choose to be mad at me. you want to be mad at us because we speaking up for ourselves but it doesn't matter because I know with my rights are and I'm going to keep on pushing for my rights and anybody and I do mean anybody, Who comes against me and tries to come against my rights. What ends up happening is, you end up being what I call a defendant, on a federal case. I don't have my rights being violated and it's okay. I'm not that person. And it's so unfortunate that our leadership for the city is so weak. So weak that you all have allowed a failed, fourth grade teacher. To mess up our city like this, and to think that y'all gonna keep your seats. So let me get to what's really happening and that's famous Friday for this Friday and we're gonna go ahead and make y'all famous. We're Gonna Make You Famous, Zoe Lee at 6 oclock on YouTube, tune in for who we gonna be famous this week is going to be? Oh yeah, Alderman, William Conway. Yeah. William Conway. Yeah. Cause he think as a prosecutor he don't have to implement the laws of this city. But we going to make him famous 6. Oclock on YouTube. Zoe Lee's Channel, l e. I g h. And look at make, you famous Friday where we going to highlight Alderman, William, Conway, boom. Thank you, Miss Jackson. Our next speaker Mr. George Blakemore Mr. Blakemore I'm so glad that they are here because they can actually see a non-functional city government. They come from the suburb. And and and and that you all are calling Problems by the suburb. Of they go out there. It's something inherently wrong with the system and down here, you have a real appointments appointments and substitute appointments, where are these people? Where are they see why they should be here and you should ask them that question? Why do you want to be reappointed? What, what have you did or done? My mother said, you get your verbs and now it's mixed up. But why those 4 people to be here? Are there, are you all here? Raise your hand if you're here. Which 1 of you are the 4 that's going to be on the police board. Well, well if if that that's the 4 over there, you ask them these questions. What did you do in the past, but what is your mission for the board? But ask them questions. As I'm all kind of questions. But so I'm glad that they're here and and we're not the enemy. I'm so glad that white people are coming from the suburb. To see exactly. And they got a part. So I'm gonna ask them to help me on that part, okay? And and they gonna go back and they, they already got my picture. I want, what would you do with home and come here? That means I said, oh Hallelujah, when he gets here and clean this dude up, there's all the Democrats assessed through a Democrats in the city of Chicago. All of them. So it's very important for for fair involvement. Can you see sir that? These mean look, there's nobody here. There's nobody here. That's why we have a non damn function of government. Nobody's here, they don't care. They do not care. So thank you, my white brothers by another mama and they are the prayers. And they're gonna go back to their constituents. And and I want you to invite me to, uh, because I need to be seen and heard and the ancestors. Uh, appreciate me. It's evil here. It's corrupt here. It's it's terrible here. And you didn't know it was this bad did you? Well, you know it now. They have another meeting going on over here probably now, you know it now see the people don't know, they should be televised all over the world about how corrupt the city of Chicago. Thank you, Mr. Blake Moore, we have no further public speakers. Thank each of you, each of you for your comments today. Our pursuit of the roof, 59 Alderman, Robertson and alderwoman Silverstein has requested to appear. By remote means, can I get a motion for the approval of all the alderman Robertson and alderwoman Silverstein, uh, to repair by a remote means? So moved by alderwoman Lee. All those approve approved. Say I all of those opposed say, nay an opinion of it, an opinion of the chair, the eyes have it. Alderwoman Silverstein. Have you joined us? Yes, I am here chairman. Thank you Alderman. Robinson. Alderman Robinson. Okay, we'll wait till Alderman Robinson, joins us chairman. I'm here. Thank you. Thank you, alderman. Each of you should have received by email um, on October 25th 2024, the room 45 report, um, for the meeting that was held on October. 24 of 2024. Are there any questions and comments about the roof 45 report? There being no questions. Can we get the, um, approval of the roof? 45, um, report so move. So so moved by alderwoman, Clay. All those in favor. Say I I all those those opposed say nay and opinion of the chair, the eyes have it, the room for the motion carries in the room. 45 report is approved. The item before the committee, we have 4 items actually before the committee. Uh, we have the appointment or the arlet G Porter uh to the police board. The appointment of Cynthia Vasquez to the police board. The reappointment of Stephen a block as a member of the police board, and the substitute appointment of Tyler C Hall as a member of the police board. Um, before we move forward, uh, the re of the substitute appointment, uh, for uh, Mr. Hall is because there was a incorrect date that was submitted. Um, the Date of termination, which is August 28th of 2029. Instead of, I believe 20, I'm sorry of 2028 instead of the date that was submitted of 2029. Um, so can I get a motion to, uh, Can I get a motion to, um, accept the substitute appointment of Tyler C Hall as a member of the police board and to committee? so moved, um, all those in favor, say I All of those opposed say, nay and opinion of the chairs, the eyes have it. And the substitute appointment is before the committee Before we go into our vote, I want to give an opportunity um for each of our appointees who've joined us today. And by the way um Stephen block because of a family emergency. I will not be able to join us today. Um, but he will hear at our last meeting and we did get an opportunity to speak to, uh, the committee members uh, but he is uh, has joined us um, via remote means Um, I'd like to give each 1 of the um appointees and re appointees an opportunity to speak starting with Miss arlet Porter. Um, each of you will have about 3 or 5 3 to 5 minutes to address the members of the committee and counts. Thank you, Miss Porter, and thank you for joining us. Good morning, good afternoon, chair, Vice chair, and committee members. My name is Arlette Porter and I come to you, seeking your consideration support and appointment to the Chicago Police board. I was born and raised in Chicago growing up in the Third Ward on 46th and Wabash. I attended Coleman Elementary School in Dabo High School graduating as saludan As the third child, third, oldest child of 10 children. I spent 21 years as the only girl among 7 Brothers, until my mom gave birth On my birthday to twin sisters. So, all 3 girls are born on the same day. I attended undergrad at Lake Forest College and completed, my Master's Degree at Chicago State University. I obtained a paralegal certification from Roosevelt University in a real estate, salesperson's license from Prairie State College. After spending, 22 years as a patent and trade market, Administrative Assistant, I attended the John Marshall Law School Over the course of my career. I have served in many capacities. I am a commissioner for the Christian Fellowship, volleyball, and basketball league, that provides basketball, and volleyball opportunities, for over 200 Youth, and Young adults. and with claim Chicago legal aid, for incarcerated mothers, where I regularly visited incarcerated mothers, And provided legal advice. I am also a member panel member of the attorney registration and disciplinary commission, which is essentially the policing Agency for attorneys, we are responsible for cutting conducting hearings and trials and making final decisions on complaints brought to the commission regarding an attorney. After reviewing pleadings reviewing evidence hearing testimony reviewing the relevant law, statutes and rules. We are called upon to re render a decision on appropriate discipline if any, given the nature of the complaint. I am currently a sole practitioner in the area of emotional law. Domestic relations family, law child, support divorce as a true sole practitioner. I handle all aspects of my cases, all preparation of documents research hearings and trials. I am also a court-appointed advocate for children serving as a guardian at lightum and child representative and I'm frequently appointed to Represent underprivileged adults in contempt matters, usually involving child support matters. As a guardian at Liam and child rep. I am often called upon to make tough decisions regarding the best interests of the child pursuing to my investigation, home visits observations, and the statutes. Upon my appointment to the Chicago Police board. I stand committed to advocating for justice and Equity not only for police officers but for the public as well. These are difficult times. And public service is a profound responsibility and privilege. I believe when trust is eroded, it takes years sometimes decades to rectify, it is my intent to exemplify, the high standards set by the Chicago, Police board, by rendering Fair, impartial sound and well-reasoned decisions in scans, by application of the law rules, statutes, and codes of the city of Chicago and state of Illinois. Thank you. All for your kind consideration and support and I seek your approval of my appointment to the Chicago Police board. Thank you, Miss Porter. Our next speaker, um, appointee will be Cynthia Velasquez. Good morning, chairman talifero, Vice chairman Robinson, and committee members. I am here before you to be considered for an appointment to the city of Chicago Police board. A little bit about my background, I grew up in the suburbs and took the train into the city to attend, concerts go to museums. And as a teenager hang out at the beach, it was my dream to 1 Day live in this wonderful City. It would be an honor to be able to serve the city. I currently live in the 43rd Ward where I am a board member for the neighborhood association and I chair 2 committees. I have 2 daughters and 2 granddaughters who live in the city which motivates my service to keeping this city, the best city in the country. I graduated from Western Illinois University with a bachelor's degree in Law Enforcement Administration. I joined the army after college and eventually went on to obtain, my master's degree in organizational, behavior from Benedict University, I attended the Chicago Police Academy as a Lombard, Police Department recruit in 1990. My various assignments, as police officer included Patrol investigations school resource officer. And as the accreditation manager, I was responsible for authoring and updating policies and general orders. I retired from the Lombard Police Department, as the deputy chief after 29 years of service. Throughout my career, I have conducted many internal investigations for my agency. Because of my ability to be fair objective and unbiased. I've been asked to conduct third-party internal investigations for other law enforcement agencies. I've also been requested to sit on assessment panels for police promotions for agencies throughout the state. Additionally, I was asked to sit on a panel to select the police chief for Kenosha. Wisconsin. I mentioned my above experience not to boast but to exhibit my reputation for an impartial and objective viewpoint. I first became interested in the board when a police board member came and spoke at a community commission for Public Safety and accountability meeting. She explained the function and responsibilities of the police board, all of which sparked my interest. as I looked into the board viewed, some videos and saw the professionalism, I knew it was something I wanted to be a part of It would be an honor to obtain a favorable consideration to the police board. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Miss Velasquez our next appointee will be Mr. Tyler Hall. Good morning. Chairman tal talifero, Vice chairman and esteemed members of the committee on police and fire. It has been a pleasure to speak with those. I have connected with within the past few days and to those I have not been able to connect with. I look forward to speaking with you in the future. I am honored to appear before you as a nominee, for the Chicago Police board. And I thank you for this opportunity to share my qualifications and vision for this vital role. I'll start with some personal information. I'm originally from Evans and and attended EV Township High School. I then attended winberg University in Springfield Ohio, the community. Most people had never heard of until some comments were made during a presidential debate about the safety of the local, cats and dogs. After returning to the area, I pursued my graduate graduate degree in public administration. With a specialization in City management from Northern Illinois, University, I'm happily married to a veterinarian. She explains why our household requires constant vacuuming due due to our 3 dogs. We currently live in the Logan Square neighborhood in the 26 Ward. And I've resided in Chicago since 2015. I currently work as a senior adviser with Downing Community, advisors we provide Municipal advisory services to assist communities with their Economic Development and housing. Prior to my current position. My career was in public service with over a decade of experience in local government including roles in Municipal management and police Administration as assistant Village manager for the village of Homewood. I served as the staff liaison to the board of fire and police Commissioners where I guided disciplinary views, promotional processes and hiring considerations. I also recommended updates to the board's rules and regulations to address to address a existing challenges in the police department in this role. I also chair The Villages executive safety team, overseeing initiatives to enhance. Workplace, safety and organizational accountability. As accreditation manager for the city of Highland Park Police Department. I had the privilege of leading the agency agency through, its fifth successful, kala accreditation, This process involved, a comprehensive review and update of department policies and standard operating procedures to align. With nationally recognized best practices in law enforcement, I work closely with Command Staff and officers to implement these changes ensuring. They are both compliant and practical for day-to-day operations. This experience, reinforced my understanding of the critical role that sound policies. Play in promoting accountability, transparency and public Trust. While working with the Arlington, Heights Police Department, I managed over 1.5 million dollars in grant funding for critical Public Safety initiatives. This included securing federal funds to implement a crisis co-responder team embedding mental health professionals within the department to respond to calls involving individuals in crisis. I also led the Department's Community addiction and Recovery effort, a grant funded program. That connected individuals with substance use disorders to treatment services. Additionally, I was responsible for drafting an updating Police Department general orders to maintain compliance with accreditation standards and to ensure policies reflected the best practices and legal requirements. Chicago Police board plays a critical role in fostering trust between the police department and the communities. It serves, I'm excited about this potential appointment and it would be my first opportunity to serve in a public service role, as a resident of the community. I live in, rather than the administrative professional roles. I've held throughout my career. If I am fortunate enough to serve as a board member, I will bring a focus on accountability fairness and transparency. I believe that ensuring that disciplinary processes are thorough and impartial and that policies reflect the principles of the 21st century constitutional policing and that the voices of Chicago's diverse communities are heard and respected. I recognize the challenges ahead but remain steadfast in my belief that collaborative Community focused Solutions can strengthen our Public Safety Systems and build trust. If my appointment is confirmed. I look forward to working with my fellow board members city leaders, and residents of Chicago to ensure a safer more Equitable City for all. Thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you, Mr. Hall, our last um, appointee is Mr. Stephen block. Mr. Block. Can you hear me, chairman? Thank you. You go ahead and proceed. Thank you. Good morning, chairman tell Aero Vice chairman Robinson and members of the committee. My name is Steven block and I would like to thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today as the committee, considers my reappointment to the Chicago Police board. And I would like to especially, thank you for allowing me to appear remotely. I'm very sorry. I can't be there in person. I plan to, but I have a, uh, a 6 on home from school. And I need to be home with them. So I appreciate the consideration. Um, Serving on the police board. For the past 3 years, has been a tremendous honor as the father of 3 children, the safety of our communities and having an effective professional and trusted. Police Department are critically important to me. That is why I'd be grateful for the opportunity to continue to serve. Let me tell you a little bit about myself and why I found my work on the police board to be so meaningful and why I'm seeking a reappointment I've been a resident of Chicago for the past 28 years and my wife and I are committed to raising our family here. My 2, young children are in elementary school in the north side and my eldest daughter is a senior at Jones college prep in the South Loop. In addition to my work on the police board, I'm active in the community in several other capacities. In 2021 Governor pritzker appointed me to the Illinois torture inquiry and relief commission where I'm now the longest serving commissioner. The torture inquiry and relief commission, which was formed to address, the torture inflicted on suspects at area, 2 police headquarters in the 1970s and 80s. investigates claims of torture was used to obtain, confessions leading to criminal convictions and where warranted provided. A means for the individual to obtain additional judicial review I also serve on a board committee at my younger children's school. And for the past several years, I have volunteered to coach baseball at Wells park. When not volunteering in the community, I'm a partner at the law firm Holland and Knight where I focus on government enforcement, White Collar, criminal defense and litigation. Prior to returning to Private Practice, I served for 10 years as an assistant us attorney in Chicago. As a federal, prosecutor assigned to the narcotics and public corruption units. I worked with dozens of dedicated and talented police officers and federal agents. Together. We investigated and prosecuted significant cases. Targeting a violent street, gangs drug cartels and organized crime organizations. Our city is undeniably safer because of the efforts of these law enforcement officers. Throughout my career, I've worked to hold accountable individuals including police officers. Who have violated The public's Trust? I believe it's important to recognize that while the actions of a few can have a negative impact. They don't Define the entire department. The vast majority of officers work, tirelessly, and with dedication to serve their communities. As a member of the police board for the past 3 years, I've always been committed to basing decisions on the evidence. Understanding that both of these things can be true. That most officers are committed professionals. And that there are a small number who may engage in conduct that requires accountability. If I am reappointed to the police board, I promise to continue to fairly and impartially evaluate the evidence and please disciplinary cases and render decisions based solely on the evidence presented just as I have done for the past 3 years, I thank you again for the opportunity to address you today and I look forward to any questions from the committee. Thank you Mr. Chairman Thank you, Mr. Block, are there any questions or comments from the committee or council members for um either of the appointees? All the woman tailor. My question to you all, is why? Why, why would you want to do this? We're a city in chaos. I'm just being honest. We spend millions in police. Cases, that never seem to go away. No real accountability. What do you on all honestly? Feel like you could add As being members of the police board to see some real change that the city and us can kind of be proud of, and that's to everybody. Let's start with Mr. Um, um, Mr. Hall. Yes, thank you for the question. Um, so I recently transitioned out into a private sector role, I'll be working with multiple clients and my entire career beforehand was in public service. Um, public service is also kind of popular in my family. I have a brother who's a naval intelligence officer. My, my uncle is a retired Chicago firefighter. My my grandfather worked for Department of Homeland Security. Um, Since stepping away into the private sector. I I feel um kind of a, a motivation and intrinsic obligation to kind of serve the community and based on my prior experience, um, I I feel confident in my ability to hopefully succeed in the role and um I kind of have a a sense of Duty to help the city where I live. Thank you, Mr. Hall, Miss Velasquez. Um, I want to increase the public and the police officers confidence in the process and throughout my whole entire life. Uh, I've never been in something just for the good times. And I realize the times that we are in right now, And we do need to increase that confidence and throughout my marriage throughout my career, throughout every friendships, never have, I tapped out when things have gone, uh, South and and downhill. And uh I don't do things just for the popularity. I don't give in to a popular opinion I give in to I shouldn't say I give in to but um I make decisions based on facts and based on what has really occurred. Not just what's going to be popular. And again uh, I realized we are in a difficult time right now and I don't do things just for the happiness of it, or for the popularity, or just for, uh, the positivity of things. I'm in here for the long run, to do the right thing. And Miss Porter. Along with what my esteemed colleagues have also said, as I indicated before, these are difficult times. And we need to put the trust. Back in the public for the Chicago Police board. It's my intent to advocate for uh, policies that promote access to to Justice. Uh, strengthen the professional developments we've uh already established and uphold the high standards standards of the Chicago Police board. Um, I've never been away from adversity, uh, as a member of the ardc. Uh, we Uh, we make the tough decisions, and I anticipate that there are going to have to be some tough decisions. That will have to be made, uh, as a member of the Chicago Police board panel, and I believe that we can do that. And lastly, Mr. Black Thank you and and I I I do really appreciate the question um, because this is a, a fraught time to be sure. Um, I'll tell you having served on this board for the past 3 years. Um, I I'm actually somewhat optimistic um because I get to be in these executive sessions. Are in private with a group of Chicago and to all come from. Different backgrounds, different experiences, different life experiences. And what I have found is that We really have take to heart. You know what? Barack Obama said about disagreeing and not being disagreeable. These are people who have different perspectives with whom I disagree often and often disagree with me. And then we, we share, we share a bite of food together and we talk about our families and we're done. And it's been amazing to see how group people coming together can make hard decisions like that, um, even in a fraud time. So, I hope that answers your question that I actually feel optimistic having done this before, even though I know there's difficult days ahead. Thank you, Mr. Black, thank you chairman. Thank you order. 1 Taylor, older woman nugget Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, chairman I just wanted to to make a comment. I had the, the pleasure of chatting with all of all of the nominees. Um, quite lengthy conversations with everybody and I really appreciate it. The perspective they they brought um, To the role and they all seem fiercely independent with a unique. Um, Sense of obligation for public service, which I thought was really welcome and refreshing. I will be supporting all of the, the nominees for the board. I think they're great candidates and um, as always, I just encourage you to continue to assert that Independence you in this role as Mr. Black can attest as he's a reappointment you get the hardest of the hard cases and so I just continued to ask you to assert that Independence in this role because I think it's very critical. And we will look to this board, uh, probably more now than than ever particularly with, um, disagreements between Coppa and the police department. So thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, thank you. Any other questions or comments? Alderman. Ervin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, the the uh group of, uh, slate slate of nominees here, look like, they have a nice balance of, uh, uh, professional, uh, community and, um, other experience. And so, um, I, I think the the question that, uh, chairman Taylor has was appropriate and also, um, how do we On the heels of Reform uh, move. the department, uh, to be more reform-minded, um, and in your review policy and or even discipline, uh, how do you send that message, uh, to the department that it's, uh, you know, clear unequivocal that hey, we have to move in a different direction in order to, um, do what's best for the in the best interest of the city of Chicago? Either 1. Um looks like looks like a Miss Velasquez is stepping up to to the plate. Yes, sir. I believe it starts with leadership and it's not just something that the leadership should talk about. Not just because it's the law or if it's the safety act, or any type of law enforcement reform. Its uh something we need to practice. And again, it's starts with that leadership and if the troops see that the leadership is taking the stance that this is where we're headed and this is the future of law enforcement. And they see that their leaders are practicing that then they're more likely to have the Buy in, to do the things we need to do to. Make this profession, an even greater profession and to add some professionalism. And so I would say it starts with at the top with the leadership and and doing the things we need to do not just reading a policy or a general order at roll call and um and being dismissive about it. Uh, we have to practice it and put it into real life situations. I also believe that if we Foster collaboration and engagement across, you know, the diverse segments of society. Uh, we are bound to come up with a workable plan that's palatable for all. Thank you. Uh, just to add to that. Um, My experience working as a civilian uh within police departments for approximately 8 years, uh, I find Community engagement and just discussions between sworn Workforce and civilian Workforce and and community members really helps break down perceived barriers um between kind of to help in enhance the public trust um and kind of the US versus them mentality helps break that down. So I think Community engagement and Outreach is in addition to leadership and sound policies, and actually following the policies, um, is a crucial step in that reform process. Thank you. Any other questions? If I may just just quickly, add to that, sorry? I I think that um, 1 Thing, the police board can do, um, to address. The issue is to think about what we say, when we write our, our, our disciplinary decisions that our public facing, um, I would say, oftentimes when we're writing decisions, we are not just writing them with the parties in mind, you know, the officer and the superintendent or Coppa. We do think of it in terms of what the broader Department might take from it. And it's not unusual for us to write in a decision uh to identify some training gaps or suggest additional training. Um, so I think it's an important role we have as well is we can really use that tool because we do issue public opinions to say what we want to say publicly to the Department. Thank you Alderman. Ervin. No. Thank you. Thank you for your uh responses to that. I know you all have a a very unique role. You're kind of like sandwiched in between the department and um, ccpsa and all the things that are going on there. So appreciate you all uh, you know, uh, volunteering your time to participate in this process and and again I'll be supporting All 4 of the nominees. Thank you, Alderman. Any other questions or comments? uh well let me just say I'm very quickly um, before we close our meeting, uh I certainly appreciate um, each of your um, Stepping up to serve the city of Chicago and the Chicago Police Department in this residence as well. Um, As, as Alderman, Ervin, um, articulated it. It's, it's very unique role but it's also a very difficult 1 as well. Because you're going to be making some very serious decisions and that impact our our public and impact the lives and families of our police officers and civilian members as well to some degree. And and so, I want to ask you to always carefully, consider, uh, the cases that are before you, uh, certainly in. And I think each of you bring a your own, um, experiences to the table, as you look at the general orders and the rules and regulations of the Chicago Police Department, um, and the facts that will be presented to you. So I, I just simply ask that you, um, review them. Carefully, as you make your decisions. And I, again, I want to thank you for appearing here today before the committee. Um, and I, um, I want to thank you for, uh, stepping up to the plate and and serving the city of Chicago with that. There's no further questions or comments, can I get a motion? And we're going to vote on each 1 individually of course it's um. Uh, we'll do it very quickly. Uh, can I get a motion for the approval of item? Number 1 to a 201202414222, the reappointment of Steven block is a member of the Chicago Police board. So moved by alderman, they'll move by Alderman, Ervin all those in favor. Say I All those opposed nay. And opinion of the chair. The eyes have it? Congratulations. Mr. Block on your reappointment. This matter will be presented out, um, at the next meeting of the city council on January 15th. 2025, can I get a motion for the approval of item? Number 2, 202414223 the appointment arlet G Porter as a member of the police board. So moved by all the woman clay. all of those opposed, please say I All those, um, did I say approve? I missed your parlay. Are are and I had a few cases together, so it's okay. If I can do the um, all those in support of say, I all those opposed nay Any opinion to chair the eyes, have it, the motion carries and congratulations. Miss reported out in the next meeting of the city council on January 15th. 2025, can I get a motion for the approval of item? Number 38202414224, the appointment of Cynthia Velasquez as a member of the police board? So moved by alderman kitson All those in favor. Say, I All those opposed say nay and opinion of the chair. Um chair of the eyes, have it, the motion carries and congratulations, Miss Velasquez. Um, this matter will be reported out also on January 15th, the next meeting of the city council and lastly, for the substitute appointment of Mr. Tyler, C Hall item, number 4, A 202414224. Oh no. Actually it is not it's just item. Number 4 is a substitute. Um all those approved say I well can I get a motion first Alderman? Ervin All those in favor. Say, I All of those opposed nay. An opinion to chair the eyes, have it? Congratulations, Mr. Uh, Mr. Hall Um, this item bill will be reported out on January 15th as well. There being no further business before the committee. Um, can I get a motion for the adjourn? So, move all the all those in favor. Say I All those opposed. And the pain that the chair, the eyes have it and this meeting is adjourned. Thank you guys so much for appearing. We actually started on time today.