isn't exclusive. I represent the thousands of families,
still worker families that still live there. That still
remember the prosperity
It's time to renew that promise.
Side Quantum looked at 20 different states.
It was a 20 State process that got narrowed down to a few
and ultimately Illinois was picked, but side. Quantum saw
something in the 10th war that I already knew the promise
and hope of the 10th world is alive and well. And it is
time that the city and the state
and the country recognizes that. So chair, I stand with
Alderaan Mitchell, the governor of the state of Illinois,
the mayor of the city of Chicago, the president of the Cook
County Board and asked my colleague for the favorable
support.
Thank you.
All right, thank you very much. Appreciate all.
The.
if there are no, if there are yeah, Alderman, bill
To, uh, move to pass on this project. All right, so
Alderman bill, moodoo pass all those in favor. Signify by
saying, I
all those opposed, the eyes have it and independent of the
chair. The eyes have it. Thank you.
Have a good.
All right. Thank you, folks, folks. We're going to keep
going.
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appreciate you being here. Thank you.
We're going back to the top of page 1.
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Pop a page. 1. Document number
02023 2020.
Sergeant-at-arms.
Document number 0. 2023 D. 2187 an ordinance. Introduced by
Alvin Talya Ferro. Amending municipal code 17-12.
Folks in the gallery, we still have a meeting going on,
please be quiet and make your way out.
Document number 0, 20232187 an ordinance. Introduced by
Alderman Talya Ferro, amending municipal code 17-12 and
1717 regarding City digital signs and general terms. I'd
like to note that there will be no final vote taken on this
item and this item on today's agenda is for subject matter
purposes. That being said, all the mental Fair has a
substitute ordinance for this matter, that committee
members should have received electronically and will find
in their packets today as well as an informational packet
on the ordinance.
All the commutes and makes a motion to accept the
substitute ordinance all in favor. Say I
Opposed name the opinion to share the eyes have it. The
substitute is before us. We have Alderman Talya, Ferro here
to present on this matter.
and folks, again,
We got a long meeting, I'm going to ask everyone to take
their seats and be quiet.
To Chairman. Thank you. All thank you, Mr. Chairman and
members of the committee on zoning.
Um, Mr. Chairman if I may be granted to leave, um, the
privilege of having Mr. Sam Roadie, join us either in the
box or um, down in the council.
1 either 1, come on down.
Mr. Row is here.
All the entire feral, Mr. Roi is here. Thank you.
Oh yeah, he's here.
either either, or
Did did you want us up front or want him up front or
usually we do from up front but let's go wherever you want.
Well, okay.
We'll put him in a hot seat then there you go. Front and
center Mr. Roi
right there.
All right.
All right, Mr. Roy please proceed. Well, if Mr. Chairman if
I could go ahead and start, I appreciate it. Sorry, all
them go ahead. Um, and and again, thank you, Mr. Chairman
and members of the committee 1, second
We have a meeting. Still going sergeant-at-arms, please
remove those causing disturbances.
Proceed Alderman. Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, in
approximately 2019, Mr. Chairman I became very alarmed and
even before then, um, but I became very alarmed at the
number um, of suicides that this city was experiencing uh 1
1.
At Arms.
All right, proceed Alderman, thank you. Um,
All right. I became you know what? We're gonna have to move
people that that can't behave, right?
If a gallery could remain quiet, we can continue.
continue continue Alderaan well first, thank you for um the
the subject matter hearing that we're having on this issue
today um as I was stating in in 2019 I I became very
concerned with the number of suicides that our Chicago
police officers in Chicago firemen were experiencing. Um
and um unfortunately um I believe that there was not enough
funding um for the programs that I wanted to see.
Um in the education um educational programs that I wanted to
to our department to be uh, would have at their disposal.
Uh, and so I reached out to Los Angeles, Police Department,
who had seen a significant decrease, um, in their police
suicides. In fact, the Los Angeles Police Department over
in 18-month period. Um, had had only, uh, well actually,
they didn't have any suicides for over 2 year period and
we're in Chicago was was averaging 6 or 7 a year. Uh and
and so I wanted to fund a program uh that would provide um
would provide um education as well as um, services for our
Chicago, to address the issue of mental health. Um, and so
1 of the things that I proposed to the prior Administration
as well. As this 1, um, is that program and and how to fund
it. Uh, and so I I spoke with Mr. Sam Roi.
On how we could get this program funded and uh, Mr. Roi
presented me with this. Um, the ordinance that you see
before you today, uh, and I believe it is a and also some
opportunity, um, to provide funding for that particular
program. But, uh, given the, uh, you know, given the
situation I should say that our city is in, um, as we look
at Revenue sources, um, this would not only be an
opportunity for us to look at Revenue, um, down the road.
Um, but I think it's a great opportunity to um, to look at
The opportunities that this ordinance present, um, in in
essence, what it is, and Mr. Road is here to speak, um, a
little bit more in detail as well, but what it has it, it,
it creates an opportunity for private property owners.
Um, to contract with sign operators, uh, to have Billboards
on their private property. And as you may be aware, um,
there's currently a digital billboard network, uh, but
those digital Billboards, as we see along our highways are,
um,
Posted on either city property or city controlled property.
Um, which does not provide for private Contracting uh, for
digital Billboards. Uh, this is an opportunity to allow our
private contractors or our private land owners uh, to
contract with build, um, billboard companies as well. Um,
and the, the key factor in it, um, it generates Revenue,
uh, without any cost uh to the city itself. The city would
not uh, have to pay for the cost of um maintenance um,
maintenance, um, construction or any costs associated with,
uh, the billboard and the billboard use, however, uh, the
proposal asked for, or the proposal, um, requires that the
city receive a 15%, um, revenue or 15% Revenue as a result
of the Billboards being erected. Um, so with that, um, I'd
like for Mr Roi to have an opportunity.
Did you speak as well? Um but if I could just give an
example of what is very similar to uh may may not be an
exact example. But um, if you are familiar with cell phone
towers, uh many of our cell phone companies, Place Towers
upon private property um and the private property owner
gets an opportunity to contract with that um cell phone
company. Um to have that Tower placed on their property,
They receive Revenue as a result of it, as well as um, the,
uh, the cell phone company gets an opportunity to have a
better signal in that particular area. This in the, in the
same way, allows the private property only to contract with
a billboard provider, um, to erect a billboard on their
private property. Whereas the city in this case would get a
15% um, share of the revenue.
The sign, operator would get a 60% share of the revenue and
the landowner would get a 25% share of the revenue now. I
thought it was very important to ensure that
Uh, that we're not oversaturated our highways with
Billboards. So this this substitute ordinance limits. Um
number of signs that we could have to 24 faces. Um,
generally a sign will come in, um, with 2 faces. So, there
is a proposal for no more than 24 faces, which may possibly
mean, uh, 12 Billboards. Um, that's all I have in Mr.
Roadie, um, chairman if it at your um, Mr. Rody, can speak
with a little bit more detail on this ordinance as well
great. Mr, row.
uh, hello Vice chairman and um,
committee members. Um,
This, this ordinance is a is a public private property
asking.
To be a text Amendment.
to the existing City of Chicago, Chicago 2012 coordinated
digital, uh,
Uh uh, sign program.
and just like all the men Feller has just stated um,
The program.
Allows for digital signs only on the city's. Highways, our
expressways rather
um,
the original ordinance uh called for 60 digital signs. Uh,
because of the strict nature of the, the sign requirements
that I dot follows which is the beautification act of the
of the United States.
They are only currently operating 51 of the 60 signs that
they were contracted out to do.
Um,
so,
What? I, my I have been born and raised in East Rogers
Park, I've been in Chicago primarily Chicago developer my
entire life.
I found.
15 property owners that uh were interested in participating
in a public, private partnership with the city.
Uh, we went, we got I got permits. Um,
For these.
These locations and through all the mental Aero, we
introduced an ordinance to that fact.
all the
the private property owners all agreed to sign the exact
same lease all terms and, um,
financial matters.
And it. So it's it's really it's a unique program. I
believe, on this scale there is certainly nothing in the
country like it.
I kind of look at it as a Chicago works, you know?
Everybody wins the property owners.
This citizens City of Chicago because of generates income.
That's not tax base.
um, as almond tell Aero has stated, um,
Is true. The city has in comparison to the first and second
Uh, largest.
add markets in the country, which would be new New York and
La Chicago was number 3, but as a percentage of the
population, it's underserved in the amount of signs they
have on the expressway.
um,
so,
This.
You know, when this ordinance, um, we're ready to go.
you know, we um,
there's because we have the permits already in hand.
um,
we're estimating based on the revenue that JC The Cove is
generating currently.
The revenue, when the S when the, when the signs are
operating.
Will be between a half a million and a half and 2 million
dollars.
We the sign industry feedback gave me, is they feel that
it'll be closer to the 2 million. They have the reasons
which I would be happy to
regurgitate to any members that are interested in hearing
that reason.
Um,
Like to.
Maybe open things up to any council members that have any
questions for me.
Alderman talifero, did you have anything else? No, I I don't
have any questions chairman. Um, I I just want to take this
opportunity to, at least, bring this before your committee
and hope that, um, as we enter into 2025 and start looking
at, uh, Revenue sources, um, that we can definitely come
back here before your committee and have this matter
considered, um, seriously considered. But I, I think it's
important to be able to at least begin looking at. Look,
JC. Nicole has, I'm not going to say it's Monopoly, but JC
do has a, um, a contract of binding agreement with the city
that it would provide, um, at least 60 or no more than 60
Billboards, um, on the city way, or city city or or public
city city or or public way rather and um, this is an
opportunity and none of those signs as they exist are on
private property.
Uh, we need to make money in the city, we do.
um, and, and we need to do it without
I say, again, going to our taxpayers, um, to ask more out
of their pockets. This not only puts money in our taxpayer
Pockets, but it puts money in our pockets, as well. And if
this Revenue can be realized, throughout 2025, in the Years
Beyond, it takes more of a need for us to continue to go
back to the same. Well, um, to to find money.
and so, uh, you know, as as as we do this uh,
I should say this cursory introduction of this, substitute
ordinance. I hope that we can go back or go move forward
and sometime early next year to begin discussing this in a
little bit more detail and hopefully pass this uh because
it it does not. Um as I said it does not um,
Again, place a burden or more of a burden on our taxpayer,
to put money in the cities, um, cities Pockets so that we
can um, exercise some of the programs and expenditures that
we have. So thank you, Mr. Chairman for this opportunity, I
have no questions. Um, again, I'd like for us to, um, in
the year I'm sorry in the year. This coming to discuss this
in a little bit more detail. Sure. Uh, Alderman, rally
wanted to say something. Then Alderman Alderman. Uh,
Bennett.
Thank you chairman. Um, and to my colleague, I, I think
that this is something that will require a lot more
discussion, um, the JC decaux contract was mentioned in
testimony, um, and I think we need to probably confer with
a lot of department on how this might impact that because
that's an existing partnership with the city of Chicago.
and again as we all know, from just basic, economics and
school,
Um, when you add more advertising opportunities to a
quarter, you are essentially driving down the price that
you can charge for those advertising opportunities. It's a
supply and demand game.
And so, while I'm certainly all about finding new and
creative ways to enhance revenue streams for the city of
Chicago. Uh, and this may very well be 1 of those
opportunities. Um, when I I hear about
Uh, program to expand what is a very lucrative industry?
Um, and I hear that this is intended to be done on private.
Parcels only.
Yeah, this is a public private partnership. I I grow a bit
skeptical.
And the fact that the funds from this program would be
specifically dedicated to certain programs. Um, also raises
a few concerns for me. I, I I applaud my colleague, uh, for
wanting to make an impact on mental health and and even
more specifically Mental Health Services, for our First
Responders. Um, I, I am here to help in that effort, um,
but I think we need to be very careful.
In how we approach these opportunities to make sure that we
aren't inadvertently.
Uh, causing harm to other City revenue streams that
currently exist.
Um, 1 question, I have because I noted, it was an exhibit
included in our packets. For today, uh, is a letter from
the Department of Planning and Development, dated October
21st 2021 to Mr. Roadie.
Uh and it it has a series of private Parcels listed with
their tax PIN numbers.
Um, I just want for my own edification. Um, I just wanted
to confirm these are the proposed sites then for these
potential future digital Billboards. Is that is that
correct?
Uh yes, all of them. Those are
Augment Roi. I mean, I mean, Mr. Roi, can you talk to it to
the mic? Um, I don't requires proof of control of the
property to issue out a permit. Um, so those are the actual
sites, the actual
sites that are approved with for I do, um,
I'm those permits that were issued. I see I could I get all
so address. Um,
Oh, don't so at the at the ottoman. Rally is ottoman bin
and Alderman Hall then Alderman, bill.
so, um, so that's helpful and and
Do multiple entities control ownership of these properties?
Does 1 single entity or each of these owned by different
people. Um, who owns these properties?
Uh, they're all individual Property Owners, um, gas
station, owners, mechanic shops, uh 1's, a bakery 1's, a
glass manufacturer.
Um, so yes, you're all Alderman, it's all individual.
Private, uh, business operations. Okay. And uh you're the
principal of the would-be digital billboard operator.
I am not a billboard operator, I am a developer. Um
I approached this as a developer, um, where we
Sort of like the quarterback and we pull the players
together whether it's the construction company.
The financing arm.
So I, for example, uh, the permits that were drawn, they
were they were drawn, uh, by uh, Lamar Advertising, Who is
the
Largest sign operator in the United States, um, with over
150,000 signs distributed throughout the United States, um,
So, I I, I just, if you can appreciate that, I you, I act
a developer on this pulling, the best in the industry for
the particular.
Job. That's a sign. I would not be operating. These signs
myself. I'm strictly in development. Okay. Uh, thank you
for answering that question. So, who would the digital
operator be?
Um, I can, can I can, uh, submit that to you. Um,
at a later time, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to do it
now, uh, because 1 has been
Selected, I see.
and this, uh, Revenue scheme that you have devised, that
would give the billboard operator, 60% of the revenue, the
private property owner, 25% and the City of Chicago 15% uh,
uh, was that your offer to Todd and Talia, pharaoh, and the
City?
Uh, yes, it was. I based it off of um, the
JC Cove. Um, transaction.
The way that works is the city's. The landlord JC decaux
pays a fixed rent.
Uh, per year.
Or a percentage of the gross. Um,
ba.
That whichever is greater.
Um,
so,
the way that deal is structured, though, is that um,
The city.
Um, wanted to own the signs on their property.
so they structured a deal where the percentage rent would
pay for the costs for JC to Cove to construct the signs.
Um, JC Nico's Revenue projections. Um,
Have still not exceeded.
Their 2015 numbers. So,
Percentage, rent has never been generated.
The, the percentage rents, um, starts off at 50% of the
signed Revenue.
And goes down to 30% to the city.
Once certain thresholds are are made, but the first
priority is, um, jco as of so first. I'm sorry, Mr. Roi,
I'm gonna need you to speed up because we get 37 items
going on, uh, to do and, uh, talking too slow. So, you guys
beat up a little bit and we're familiar with the JC to co
contract because this, this body approved it. Um, so I'm
going to wrap up my my questions here, but my point is this
requires a lot more discussion. Um, a concern here is that
we're talking about percentages of Revenue share.
Um, without the actual operator of the system.
Present uh, or identifiable.
Um, at the end of the day the the billboard operator is
going to determine whether or not. This is a value and
whether or not they want to pay us 15% or 30% or 50%.
Um, and so I I'm just, I was just trying to get my arms
around.
What entity was actually approaching us with this idea um
and and who the the folks involved are because um frankly
you know a 60% share of the revenue from this program for a
private operator that has yet to be determined raises
concerns for me. Um but more importantly, um, as as Mr.
Roadie was testifying, he actually understood 1 of my
concerns and that is
um, that this would actually be competing directly with
Um, our Network system that we are partner in with JC do
that according to the witness is underperforming.
So, to add double the inventory.
More competition, lower pricing. Um, I don't see how that
benefits. Our existing relationship.
On Revenue, with JC to co. So that said, I think this
requires some more work and conversation and I'm glad it's
not being voted on today, but I would encourage. Um, my
colleague, almond tally faroh, perhaps to pull together a
small work group with appropriate, City, departments, and
some of us were very familiar with billboard contracts and
policy. I've been working
For 18 years. Now, I know you have chairman as well. Um, but
this is a, um,
It's a certainly, an ambitious idea and I and I give the
the sponsor credit um but it requires a lot more thought.
Um, so thank you, chairman.
Thank you, uh, Alderman. Uh, Vice chair. Larson.
Thank you, chairman. Um, I just
Want to confirm. The ordinance is written is still.
Everything is 1 block from the expressway basically 600660
ft.
I can't. We're still limiting these signs to 1 block from
the expressway.
Um, yes, it it we're following it, the the ordinance. So I
believe the ordinance allows the signs to be right up
against the expressway.
Write 660 feet is what's in in the draft here. Um and when
does our JC do contract expire
um, it well, it requires 20,037
okay. Um,
Um, so I guess, I just want to say maybe Echo some of what
Alderman Reilly said. Uh, I think this is a bigger, uh, a
bigger lift than than something that is this simple because
there's a lot of signs. I have I have Wrigley Field. I have
a lot of signs that are grandfathered in um that are very
large and and and other opportunity areas or opportunities
with the existing signs to be more creative. And I think
there's an opportunity for the city um, to play a role
there. So, um, I'd be willing to have these conversations
as well. But I,
I think we need to it's going to take some work and and and
be broader than just um maybe with a within a block of
Expressway too. So thank you chair. Thank you. Uh, Alderman
Hall.
Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Um, not trying to pull on the
time I heard.
your um, your directive, I do want to say um that you know,
having talked to those in the industry as well and the
evolution of digital and neighborhoods. And as uh, ad
companies are beginning to phase out the old brick and
mortar way of advertising the neighborhoods. And looking at
consolidating into different approaches. We already have
these similar, some downtown, matter of fact, just attached
to buildings, randomly. And so, similar to my colleague,
uh, looking forward to exploring, uh, however far we can go
with the possibility of evolving, this form of
communication and digital. We are the third largest
country. Uh, third largest city in the country, and, uh,
advertisers love our Global messaging. So thank you for
sharing what you shared and looking forward to the further
Dialogue, on making it a reality. Thank you Alderman, bill?
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, Mr. Chairman I just want to
um offer my assistance in working with almond talifero, I
too have over the years worked with the digital um board
companies as well as all the advertising companies. And I
just want to say we need to proceed with caution on this.
Uh because once you open this thing up,
All right. Uh because we have a very strict you know,
contract with the existing companies and once you start
opening it up to private uh you're probably going to have
the potential of having digital Billboards everywhere and I
don't think we want to be the next New York would having
all these digital, um, Billboards all over the city of
Chicago, where everybody's just a mad grab to create
revenue. And, uh, but at the same time, oversaturated in
the area like alderman,
Uh, Riley stated uh, oversaturated in the area, um, to the
detriment of our own tax base. And so I just want to
proceed with caution on this and uh and offer any of my
assistance uh to all them and talifero and guiding us
through this um very very unique process. So thank you.
thank you. Thank thank you Mr. Roodie, I want to thank
Alderman talifero, you know, from what I understand,
Alderman talifero wanted to just pose the question, have
the conversation? So we can start talking about.
More and see what the possibilities are. So I want to thank
you Alderman, talifero and Mr. Roi, you need to, you know,
uh, thank Mr. Taro a lot for doing this for you. This is
very unconventional for us. So thank you very much. So
next, uh, next item is document, wait a minute. If there
are no further questions on this matter, I would like to
move on to the next item and look forward to working with
Alderman talifero further on this matter. Next item is
document number 024-0000, 14256 and ordinance. In the D by
Alder Ramirez Rosa co-sponsored by all the, all the men,
sparta almonds fantasies almond, Rodriguez, Sanchez and
Alderman. Kadona amending the municipal code, chapter 5-1,
but modifying various sections regarding the tenant rights
of first refusal and blocks 606 District pilot Pro.
Program, as well as correcting a typographical error. We
have Alderman Ramirez, Rosa here to present. But before I
do that, uh, we like to, uh, make a motion for a rule 59
to, uh, incorporate Alderman. Um,
Julia Ramirez Julio Ramirez uh to uh to the meeting all in
favor signify by saying, I all those opposed, I have it.
Uh, so ultimate Rosa, the the floor is yours. Thank you so
much chair. Um, so this, uh, body and this Council passed
the northwest side housing preservation ordinance. Uh, this
fall, uh, and after passage, we were approached by the
Chicago, land Association of Realtors, um, with questions
and suggestions, and that initiated a collaborative
process, um, where we have agreed alongside the Chicago
land Association of Realtors, uh, to make these reasonable
changes uh, to the ordinance uh in your packet. There is a
a uh summary of what these amendments are to the ordinance.
Uh the Chicago land Association of Realtors are also
present here today. Uh in support of these amendments and
they have also issued a letter in support. Um 1 this uh
sets a sunset for the tenant opportunity.
To purchase program to December 31st, 2029, aligning it with
the Demolition S charge sunset. Uh it also pushes back the
effective date to March 1st 2025 for the tenant opportunity
to purchase program. Uh, this will allow the Realtors to,
provide their members with important information on this
this ordinance at their real estate First. Look meeting in
February uh so helping the industry. Understand what this
tenant opportunity to purchase program entails. Uh, the
entails. Uh, the ordinance also includes clearer guidance
for tenants and sellers on financial viability. Uh and then
it also um,
provides clear, guidance on, uh, when tenants, uh, can
waive the right of first refusal and how, uh, sellers or
their agents can go about getting that, uh, waiver of
Rights. Um so these are very reasonable uh, amendments to
this ordinance. Um, we're very proud uh, that we've come
together. Uh, both alongside the Chicago land Association
of Realtors, as well as the co-sponsors of this ordinance.
We're really thankful to Alderman Felix, Cardona, who I
believe stepped out, uh, but helped initiate some of these
conversations as well as Alderman Gil viegas for their
assistance. Um, and that's pretty much it.
Okay. Um,
I'd like to motion do pass. There's no questions. So we are
there any questions about our body?
Seeing none if there's no further questions. Um,
Alderman, Cruise, moodoo pass all in favor. Signify by
saying, I
Those opposed in the opinion of the chair.
Uh,
Okay, so Alderman, Bill vote. No, but record. Um, next we
have a series of map amendments in the 35th Ward introduced
by Allman Carlos, Rosa. We're going to move on and page 5,
get this out of the way. Uh uh
Read 3 items into the record and will we will hear 1
presentation on the matter. We will then take a motion for
all at the end. Before us. We have file. Number a-8 903 for
for the property company known as 2816 North Milwaukee,
Avenue 3424 West diversity Avenue change request is b31
community shopping, district to b33 community shopping
district. The number 2 is file number 88904 for the
property commonly known as 2814 North Milwaukee Avenue.
Change request is b31 community shopping, district 2, b33
Community shop and District. Number 3, file number 88905
for the community properly for the property.
Commonly known as 2847 to 2861 North Milwaukee Avenue. To
change. Request is b31, comedy community shopping, district
2, b33 Community shopping district, items. A-8 03 a dash
8904 and a
-8905, have substitute ordinances.
Alderman fantaize makes a motion to accept the substitute
ordinance for files, number 8303 a -89. I mean, I'm sorry,
Check that number a -8903 a -8904 and a -8905, all in
favor. Signify by saying, I
Opposed and the opinion of the chair. Is the eyes have it?
The substitutes is before us, we have Alderman Carlos, Rosa
here to present these cases.
Thank you so much, Mr. Chair. Um so this is a series of
aldermanic resoning items uh that are really the last stage
of a process. We initiated many years ago alongside the
the Department of planning and development in 2019. I met
with then commissioner Cox uh and we began a conversation
around. A zoning overlay study uh shortly thereafter. We
were able to allocate Tif dollars to fund that study and we
were able to bring in a really wonderful group of
Consultants. Uh, they prepared a very lengthy study, uh,
they engaged the community, uh, and we identified both
character.
And non-character buildings along this stretch. Um and what
we found is that our community wants to preserve the
character of Milwaukee Avenue that Main Street, feel the
historic buildings that really give that Corridor. Its
charm are its strengths. Um, but what we also identified
was a series of parcels uh that were Prime Redevelopment
opportunities. So we passed our zoning overlay uh earlier
this year. And I really want to thank the committee for
their support there and helping to put that in place. And
what that means is that any future development at this site
along this Corridor, and Milwaukee Avenue will have to be
redeveloped alongside the, uh, design guidelines that have
been put forward. So it's going to have to match the
historic character of that stretch. Additionally, our
community, and our Council work to update the Aro last
term. And so what that means is that any new development at
this site that Taps into the zoning will also have to be
20% affordable. Um, so this is really about cutting the
tape. This is really about aligning, the stretch with our
vision of, uh, what we would like to see.
Uh, in our community. It's about promoting housing. It's
about promoting affordability. Uh it's about promoting
development that's alongside the character of this stretch.
Uh, and it's also about making sure that our small
businesses have the customer base that they need. Because
we know that more people living on Milwaukee Avenue means
more customers for all of our wonderful, small businesses.
Um, so I know that this item came up last time. I know that
some colleagues had questions, um, since then, I've had an
opportunity to speak with a majority of the committee on
these items and I'm very
Thankful for their support. Uh and uh we also have Carmen
Martinez here. She is the supervisor planner for the
northwest region. Uh, she assisted us with, uh, this
process, uh, and this is something that we've discussed
with her for many, many years. So, she's also here to
answer any questions or to speak to, uh, the process that
we went through. Um, and it should be noted that most of
these buildings along this stretch, um, that were not
resoning. We're not resoning them because they're either
already, zoned, B3, or they are character building
buildings that we sought to protect with our zoning
overlay. So we're only zoning rezoning those Parcels that
are either not character buildings or are not Zone B3. Um,
so with that, I would like to motion to pass and would like
to ask, uh, for my colleague support. Thank you.
Thank you Alderman. Rosa, any questions about the body?
Yes, Alderman. Uh uh Vice chair, Larson. Uh, thank you. Uh,
chairman there was reference to a plan so I I read the
issues that the committee meeting last month because um
there are 3 privately held properties that the taxpayers
are paying to upzone um and there was conversation about a
plan or if they had been cut work with the Department of
Planning and Development. I believe there is a planner here
or a plan. Would love to hear from that person or, or see a
copy of that plan if it's available.
Carmen. Um,
would you like to comment on this?
From the Department of planning. Uh say your next name and
title for the record, please. Yes, my name is Carmen
Martinez with the Department of planning and development
and I am the supervising planner for the Northwest region.
so, uh, alongside with, uh, the 3 wards that participated
and requested the, uh, special character overlay District,
which was the first Ward 32nd, Ward, and the 35th. Ward,
our study was about a 2-year process. Uh, initially we
started with all of the public engagement that we thought
was, uh, needed, uh, per code. We only really required to
have the public meeting, uh, within the application. So we
decided and we thought it was, um, in best interest for the
study to have a series of public meetings throughout the
18 months of the study to have additional public
engagement. And we also worked with working groups
organizations that within the community to assist us with
the processes. We started. So the study did review uh the
character buildings and non-character buildings, we
presented the buildings that are historic preservation uh
consultant that was on the team. Assisted to
To create a directory of all these buildings along the
stretch, most of those character buildings are actually in
Alderman. Roces ward in the 35th Ward, which is focusing
area. Number 3 within our study.
um, and as we were working with the community, we heard a
lot of comments about, you know, wanting to retain, you
know, the the beautiful, uh, buildings within Milwaukee
Avenue, as well as Lucas opportunities for development,
looking at opportunities to increase housing, uh,
particularly affordable housing. So, trying to find a
compromise of, you know, if density were to happen, where
could that happen? Where would it be, uh, locations of
support? So part of our public meeting also, identified
looking at the major intersections, a lot of those 6
Corners with a lot of those large beautiful buildings right
right across from the locations of the parcels under
today, um, is that beautiful Gap? Building that everybody
everybody sees they drive drive drive by so, um, in look in
locations of intersections. Those were the locations that
we had identified within our study of potential
opportunities within the design guidelines, which we do
have copies here that we can share. Um, 1 of the case
studies that we looked at was in Alderman Rose's, ward in
the, uh, Focus area.
3, which is the intersection at Kimball. Uh, 1 of our case,
studies did look at a scenario, uh, for a potential
development, that could happen at that intersection, which
was site number 5 and 6.
Thank you, augment. Vice chair, Larson.
All right, thank you. That would have been helpful, um, of
all of the properties in this Milwaukee. Avenue Corridor.
How many more should we expect to be resand?
At the moment we're working with Alderman Rosa to look at
Focus area. Number 3, so almond. Yeah.
Um, you know, I, I think that this should really be the
last step of that stretch. Um, like I said, many of them
are already Zone B3.
As uh, you know, our supervising planner noted, a lot of
those buildings, there are character buildings and that's
what our community said. We wanted to do was preserve those
character buildings. Um, so really, this is looking at
those opportunities for redevelopment along this stretch.
So, this should likely be the last resoning of that
stretch. Um, however, we know that, um, you know, this is
an ongoing conversation, uh, with our community for
perhaps, there will be future reson. But as of right now,
this is really what I envisioned. And what our community
has envisioned is the final last step in this multi-year,
long process. So let me ask this, then, how many other
Parcels in this stretch? Have been resand proactively.
Prior to so. So prior to the zoning overlay study, we did do
a comprehensive resoning of this stretch, uh that was uh
completed last term. Um, but that was really, an
insufficient tool. Really what we needed was the zoning
overlay study and that is why commissioner Cox worked with
us to initiate this process? That's why we allocated Tif
dollars to fund this study. Um, and so really now because
of this study because of all, the work that's happened with
the updates to the Aro because of the zoning overlay that
passed earlier this year, it allows us to now move in this
direction. Um, so the initial resoning that happened last
term of this stretch. We were working with the tools that
we had at that time. Um, but now we have a new tool and
that's the study and the report that's in front of you
which actually lives in the city code as a zoning overlay,
that requires any new building that's developed there to
meet the design guidelines. And to be redeveloped alongside
the character of that stretch
Great, thank you, chair. All right. Thank you. So Alderman,
Rosa, mood do pass, uh, all those in favor, signify by
saying, I those opposed and the opinion of the chair, the
eyes have it? Thank you Alderman Rosen. Now we're going to
move out of the uh, regular order of business and go to the
top of page 15 uh, document number, 22575421 Ordnance,
referred 10924 common address 65 East walker place, I mean
Wacker Place. Uh change request a DX.
16 downtown mix used District to a residential business plan
development. Uh,
this item was held and passed by the Chicago plan
commission, uh, Alderman rally uh, makes a motion to
incorporate all records and findings from the from that
hearing all in favor signify by stating, I all those
opposing the opinion of the Cherry ice have it. The records
are Incorporated,
Okay. Uh,
Councilor. Please introduce yourself for the record and
proceed.
For the record. I good afternoon Mr. Chairman KY Dale from
the law, firm of De Piper, we represent the applicant 65
East Wacker Holdings to LLC, which is an affiliate of
Maverick development.
The properties improved with an existing office building at
the corner of Wacker place in Garland Court with Morton's
on the ground floor. It's less than 30% leased today and
only 2% of the building will be occupied come April.
the billing is over 100 years old, and the plan is to
adaptively reuse it with 252 dwelling units above lower
level commercial and Retail uses
The team worked very closely with uh dpd and Alderman,
Reilly on this project and the alderman is issued a letter.
That should be in the file from plane commission that I
think he's here today as well. I'm available for any
questions, but thank you for your time and consideration.
Thank you. Any questions about the body?
Autumn a rally.
Thank you chairman. Uh, this is uh, an Adaptive reuse
project that's going to add uh
200 or 250 plus, uh, residential units downtown as we know.
Um, are much older commercial buildings in the central
business district, um, often struggle to compete with class
A office buildings that are being erected in the last
several years. And so, uh, owners of these, these older
structures need to get a bit creative to, um, to fill them
up. And so, uh, we spent a lot of time working with the
project team here and we think this is an excellent project
that will bring more Vitality to this area of the loop.
Thank you, chairman.
Okay, thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, so I I, I just want to
know. Um, so this is there's no City assistance with this
correct. So this is 1 of several, uh,
Recon conversion of buildings in the downtown area where uh
they're converting um a vacant Office Buildings to
residential. Uh and you know this is 1 of the these are
some of the buildings That You Don't See cranes up on,
right? But you do know, we do know that we have just as, as
much money being spent to rehab these buildings as we do as
a newly constructed building. So, I commend the alderman,
uh, and and
And almond. Almond rally almond Hopkins, almond, Conway, for
all of the, the new development that they have going on,
uh, in their Ward, with these Recon, conversions that don't
get counted with the cranes. So, uh, so I want to say
congratulations to Alder rally and also for having a
developer who's not asking the city for any money to do it.
So, uh, so all in favor signify by saying, I
Those opposed and the opinion of the chair. Is the eyes
have it? Congratulations.
Uh, so
So, we're going to stay out of order.
And move to page 3. Um there's a series of map amendments
for the red line extension. I will read the item into the
record and we will have 1 presentation for the matter.
so,
Yes. Yes sir.
Together.
Yes, yes, yes. Okay, thank you. So because this is such a,
a, a big matter. I figure I go ahead out of order and do
this for you guys. Okay. First file number, a dash 8917 and
the 9th Ward for the property commonly known as
100.
And 1500011568 South, Michigan, Avenue, the change request.
is, commonly known as plan development. Number 1185 to
B3, D1 Community shopping district. Next is file.
a dash 8918 in the
ninth 10th and 21st, Wards the comment address is 92589558
South Lafayette Avenue in the Dan Ryan Expressway from 95th
Street to the
East, right of way, line of the Union specific railroad,
the change request is rs2 District, RS3 and B1 D12, a
transportation district. Next file is 88919 and the 9th,
10th and 21st Ward, common address of
346347 and 358 West 107th Place 363 West 107th Street.
348 349 351 and 352 West 108th Place 348. 350 354 and 3.
West 109th Place 348 349 350 351 354 and 355 West, 109th
Street 348 and 352 West 110th Place 349 350, 352 353, and
356 West, 110th Street.
33, 334 337 340 341 344 345 and 348 West.
341 343 347, 349 and 356 West 111th Street 317 319
328 and 333 West 112th Place.
333 335 336 339 and 340 West 112th Street 30337. 309.
10312316320 and 322 West 113th Street 135 and 149 West.
114th Street 46th and 52 West 115th Street.
114141142411426 1439 South Prairie Avenue.
1325 and 11327 South Princeton Avenue.
113511135211355 and 11358 South Wentworth.
113261133011334 113361134211343.
Avenue. The change request is B3. D1 C1 D1, M1 D1 rs2, RS3
and rt42 a t Transportation District.
The next file, the next file.
excuse me, is
a 8920 in the 9th 10th and 21st. Ward commonly known is
400, 412 414 and 418 West 103rd Place.
403 405 and 409 West 130th Street, 4145 4748 and 4410, West
West 104th Street 40041, 116, West 105th Street, 4454, 10
and 413 West 107th Street 9901 10411.
10413 and 10416, South lacin Avenue.
105141052010528 105301055210558.
Stewart Avenue. The change request is
M11.
P. O. S D1.
Rs2. RS3 and RS4 2at Transportation District.
Last is file.
A -8921 and the ninth temp and 21st Ward with the common
address of 1117233540 and 42, West 115th Street, 120 122428
122428 130, 132 134 136 130, 140 142 115, 153 155
163 and 165 East 116th Street.
319 East 117th Street. 354 356, 358 and 375 East 118th.
Street 360 and 370 East 119th, Street 969 and 1029 East.
130th Street. 1 172 117 121 117. 221 11.
In South Carolina 11601 19000. 1212
01220, 0122561 12534125461261.
Cottage, Grove Avenue, 11742 and 11800 South Front Avenue
11631, and 11633 South Indiana Avenue, 113 East, Kingston
Avenue 115301153411542 111552115571556
261163011632 and 11634, South Prairie, and 11.
and 11527 South State Street, 11562 South Wall, Bosch
Avenue. The change request is B1, D1 B3, D1, C1 D1, M1 D1,
D3, RS3 and Commercial plan, development number 118528, T
transportation district as a housekeeping matter. File
number 88921 has a substitute ordinance at this time.
Vice chair, Larson.
Alderman, Bill Alderman, Billman Bill makes some motion to
accept the substitute ordinance all in favor. Signify by
saying, I opposed the eyes have it in the opinion of the
Jedi eyes, have it, we have a, an attorney, we have
attorney, Bridget O'Keefe here to present on this matter.
Good afternoon, thank you for that lengthy recitation. My
name is Bridget O'Keefe. I'm an attorney with daspin and
I'm here today on behalf of the Chicago Transit Authority,
which is seeking approval to rezone the property that will
hold the red line, extension project to a t transportation
district. This property ranges from 9 5 5
investments in the Southside in decades and its reach will
positively impact the entire Chicago. Metropolitan area.
I'm accompanied by sonali Tandon with the cta's. Red line
extension project. Team. Miss Tandon has been involved with
the project since the beginning. And together, we're going
to make a very brief presentation which includes a short
overview of rle, where it stands as well.
As well as the zoning process as uh, Mr. Chairman, um,
stated there are 5. Zoning applications before you today a
8917 through a 8921.
These are aldermanic rezon and we're using a process
similar to the CTA. Um,
To the process used by the CTA for the red purple
modernization project on the North side. Um, we will
address all 5 Ordnance in our presentation for the
ordinances rezone, the subject properties, to a teacher
District. Give it the length of the property. 5.5 miles, we
broke the hourly properties into 4 sections. So, we're
going to ask for a separate vote on each section and then
at the end of the presentation, but prior to the
consideration of those 4 Orden is we need to present for
consideration of sunset ordinance for PD 1185, which
provided for a mixed-use development at 115 in Michigan.
That development has not yet occurred and the PD has
expired. We need to formally Sunset the existing PD and
rezone the transit portion of the site to a tea District.
Designation, a new PD will be put in place when a developer
is identified by dpd. Um, 1 last um, mention is that 3
people did come today uh to make comments in support of the
project, they weren't selected as part of the lottery, but
they just asked me to
To name their names for the record. They were Andrea Reid. A
Roger Jones and Corey Durham and they wanted to speak in in
favor. So I'd now like to turn it over to miss tanden,
please? Yeah. And before you go, uh, counselor from what I
understand those 2, those 3 people who, um, didn't really
understand you all spoke to them and they left out, uh,
Satisfied. Yes. Actually in addition to those 3, we
probably had 6 or 7 people who were here today and we spoke
with everyone and we had very good conversations. Fantastic
fantastic. Thank you. And thank you Alderman. But
Just tell if it's not working. Okay, just let me know what
slide great. Thank you.
Good afternoon, everyone. I'll provide a brief overview of
the project. The red line extension project includes a 5.5
mile extension of the cta's red line. From the 95th Street,
Terminal 230th Street. It includes the construction of 4
new accessible stations at 103rd Street. 111th, Street,
Michigan, Avenue and 130th Street.
Multimodal connections at each station, will include buzz by
pedestrian and park and ride facilities.
A modern train storage yard and maintenance facility will
be built at 120th Street that will support the entire Red
Line.
Next slide, please.
The hourly project will have many transformative benefits
including improved Transit access with up to 30 minute Time
Savings for those traveling from 130th Street to downtown.
A more direct connection to the red line and the CTA
Network increased Economic Opportunity. On far. South side,
through connections to jobs, educational opportunities,
housing and other services, as well as economic
development.
Finally, our will be 1 of the single biggest Investments on
the far, south side in decades and is a critical Equity
project for CTA.
Next slide, please.
Here is a rendering of the proposed, 103rd Street station
to show the scale of project elements.
This design will be further developed by the design build
contractor and may differ.
Next slide, please.
The schedule on this slide shows the entire project
timeline and the significant progress that CTA has made in
recent years.
I want to highlight a recent and an upcoming exciting
Milestone, the Chicago Transit board in August 2024
approved. The award of the design, Bill contract to watch
Vincy, Transit Community Partners.
We expect to receive the remaining Federal funding
commitment for close to 2 billion dollars by the end of
this year or very early into next year.
CTA is seeking to rezone all the properties needed to build
the red line extension project today.
This is needed to secure permits in advance of the
construction which is anticipated to start late next year
and completed by 2030.
Next slide, please.
The red line extension is a community-driven project since
the early planning stages CTA has sought Community input in
the development of the project alignment during the
environmental review, process and the transit supportive
development plan.
in 2024, the early team has participated in more than 150
meetings programs and events offering the opportunity to
engage with residents and businesses in the early
footprint.
Next Bridget will talk about the reasoning process and
ordinance.
Thank you sonali.
So, we had 4 rezoning ordinances that were introduced by
Alderman Beale, Chico, and Mosley just a simple map
Amendment to rezone the properties to a tea District. We
given the length of the parcels, we broke it into 4
sections, as you can see on this map, the first section is
95 to I-57. Second section is from, I 57 to 107 the third
sections from 107 to 115. And then the final section is 115
to 130.
Um, there are certain Parcels within this that are owned by
a railroads that are not included in the rezoning, and
we'll have to come back at a later time on those. Um, we
extensive public notification process close to 5,000 notice
letters 1 out. I mean, we received very few comments and
questions. I think it's because the Project's been out
there for so long and has been warmly, welcome to the
community.
Um, next. Slide please.
so the first vote we would ask that you take is to Sunset
the existing PD, uh, at Michigan and 115th, um, we will res
the transit portion of that, which is just the track and
station and the remaining, uh, portion of the development
will be held back in resand once the, um, RFQ is settled
with dpd and they identify the developer for the site. Um,
so we'd like to thank you for your consideration and turn
it over to the Alderman and we're available. If you all
have any questions, thank you.
Alderman. Viegas.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, um, I see them
presentation that um, I think the staff from CTA had
mentioned that the 2 billion dollars that's coming from the
Feds. That is anticipated that by the end of the year or
early January
um,
How, how sure are we that? We're going to actually get
these funds prior to the new Administration coming in.
Thank you for the question all the men we fully expect to
sign a full funding Grant agreement with the Federal
Transit Administration in the next few weeks by the end of
this year or very early next year, we are in final phases
of that process. And our uh, leadership is working very
closely with Federal Transit Administration to complete the
portion of the review process so that we can stay on track.
We are confident that the full funding Grant agreement will
be signed um, before the change in administration. So, once
the documentation is signed um if the new Administration
comes in the that document secure, the fact that they can't
claw back the funding for for this project.
That's correct. It is a commitment for from FTA. Um, it is a
pledge saying that we will get the money for the project as
appropriated and on a certain schedule. We were in a
similar position with the red and purple modernization
Project 8 years back in 2016. And um uh Obama
administration had signed the full funding Grant agreement,
very early January 2017 just before they were leaving and
we anticipate very similar process happening here with the
red line extension project. Thank you. Okay, that's what I
wanted to make sure because, uh, obviously um, um, the new
Administration coming in may have different, uh, different
different ways that they want to appropriate. Just wanted
to make sure that uh this project was fully funded, so
thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Alma's a great
questions. Uh so 1 I um,
I want to commend uh all of the Ottoman that's involved
with this. Um, I like to note that, you know, there's been
uh, in the in the uh,
Hot performer for a minute. Uh, so I like to thank the
foreign administration for starting with the alderman. I
like to thank this Administration for helping to carry it
on, uh, with CTA and and, um, Washington DC in order to
make this happen. Uh, this is, uh, you know, a social
justice issue. Um, you know, these folks on the south is
the southeast side Park. South Side B far, far south side
have been neglected for many years of of
Transportation. I mean the simple thing that everybody else
have to go shopping to go to stores to do everything. These
folks haven't had it, you have to have a car to live out
there, where they live, and so this is a great thing, uh,
for the city of Chicago. It's a great thing for the state
of Illinois. Uh, I can see a lot more Economic Development
happening over in this area. And it's starting to make me
feel like, you know, the south side is getting everything.
You know what I'm saying? It seemed like they getting
everything on the Southside. These guys ain't not even
saying anything, getting everything. But I, I just want to
I want to commend, uh, ottoman, Bill Alderman, Chico, and
Alderman Mosley, for the tenaciousness on on making sure
this thing get past the finish line. So, uh, with that, uh,
uh, I know, aldermen want to close out who want to go first
Alderman, Chico?
Thank you, chair.
Uh, big day in the 10th board, huh?
Pardon me. That's a big day in the 10th War without a
doubt. Um, I just want to
Talk about how important this is, I think to all all of our
Awards.
you know, when you look at the map,
it ends in 95th street. But me Alderman, Mosley Alderman,
Bill know that our communities are alive and well and we
have a whole another uh set of residents that goes beyond
that the idea that they haven't been connected to the rest
of the city is is just mind-boggling. And after 50 years of
this, thought it's finally coming to fruition. Um, my
residents of the all Gail Gardens Riverdale, Golden Gate,
communities are excited to once and finally, after all be
connected to the rest of the city. So I look forward um, to
this this massive development, uh, that will ultimately
bring us prior prosperity to neighborhoods that have been
neglected um in my work. So thank you.
Alderman, bill.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman
Mr. Chairman, I too would like to thank uh, my colleagues
um, almond Mosley and Alderman, Chico for coming in and
helping carry this project over the finish line again as
well. Um, but I, I will be definitely remissed if I didn't
uh, go back and give a little bit of a history.
Lesson on how we got here.
Uh, you know, I'm a born and raised resident of the uh
Ninth Ward city of Chicago.
And this was a promise made to the south side of Chicago
Over 50 years ago. Richard J, Daly made this uh commitment
to the far south side that 1 day. The red line will be
extended to the end of the city limits and stopping at
95th.
And so, when I was blessed to become the alderman of the
9th, Ward
ugh, I reminded
The mayor Richard M Daly of his father's promise to my
community community.
And at the time, me and Alderman, Austin and Alderman
Brookins um, had a meeting with mayor Daly and demanded
that this project be put on the Forefront of
his agenda.
And he agreed.
And he knew the impact that this would have on our
community and he started the process of the red line
extension from 95th to 130 30th Street.
and when mayor Daly left, uh, RAM Emmanuel came in and I
was still chairman of the committee on transportation and I
let him know that this was something that uh our community
was extremely.
Passionate about.
and he agreed to continue to see this project move forward,
Uh and he used his connections uh with uh the secretary Le
Hood to get our project on the Forefront of the federal
government because we knew that the city of Chicago could
not
Uh, bear the the grunt of this.
All by itself. And so um, the hood actually uh, put the
first appropriation of federal dollars into this project.
Um on behalf of uh mayor Rahm Emanuel and the ball
continued to roll.
and um, you know, after Rahm Emanuel left,
You have, um, um, Alderman, lifer came in and she knew the
importance of this project as well. And we wanted to, uh,
you know, we expressed to her that we wanted to continue
this project. And the, the project continued
And here we are today under um uh our new Administration.
And he sees fit to continue to move this as well.
And so, I think, right now, the only common denominator is
myself with all these Mayors. Uh and so I want to just um,
you know, thank everybody.
from um, all the prior administrations and this
Administration to understand the importance of
Transportation,
Because our communities are not connected. And people have
always said that you know, all the to all Gardens that, you
know, they didn't feel part of the city.
and so, now they're going to be part of the city and
be able to get downtown in 20 to 25 minutes from 130 138th
Street and have access to all the jobs. But hopefully, they
don't have to go too far because we can send them over to
the quantum project and they can get some jobs over in the
10th Ward. And so, all these things are going are coming
together because we are working together. And, um, you
know, I I tell you that my colleagues have, um it's been a
pleasure working with my colleagues on making sure that we
bring all these jobs and opportunities to the area. Uh,
uh CTA has done a phenomenal job and I when I say phenomenal
that's an understatement uh because they have had numerous
numerous Community meetings, more than I would care to
attend because that's just their commitment to making sure
that the residents know what's going on. We've had
roundtables. Uh, we've had Community input sessions.
And so and I know Doro has gone to DC numerous times to
make sure that uh, this project continues to move forward.
Uh and so I mean here we are today
Here we are today.
Passing the zoning map Amendment for the final phase of the
red line extension.
And let me just digress, we could not have done the red
line extension.
Without doing the red line upgrade to 95th Street and so we
had to make sure that the red line from 95th to surmac uh
was was redone under Rommy Emmanuel.
You can't do the extension without the upgrade and then we
upgraded 95th Street and so all these things have tied in
together. So now we have a very smooth 95th. I mean a red
line, uh, um, from 95th to ceramic. We have a brand new
Station at 95th and the Dan Ryan right there in 95th and
State, and to have everything. Now, be connected from 95th
to 130th Street.
And so Mr. Chairman, this is what it's all about. This is
what
gives us satisfaction as elected officials.
knowing that we're bringing billions of dollars back to our
community billions and I always said that the red line
extension was going to be 1 of the last things that
complete before I leave being Alderman. And here we are
today, making it happen, not that I'm leaving anytime soon.
Because we still have work to do. I don't want to get
nobody. I don't want to get anybody any idea.
You know, but uh, We've created thousands of jobs in the
Ninth Ward and um and it just gives me great pleasure to be
where we are today to have these over 50 year promise, come
to fruition. And so with that Mr. President Mr. Chairman I
move due pass on this phenomenal project. Yeah, thank you.
Well.
so, I just want to say just um,
I'm
Sorry, I didn't mention the other Mayors because it didn't
come up to vote at their time, but but we appreciate both
of them daily and ROM. We know they had a lot of contacts
in Washington DC and getting the money settled and I didn't
know all the stuff on the back end. So we really appreciate
them. And we're very blessed. Uh, Alderman bill that you've
been around as long as you have in order to make these
things happen. So you know that that's that's that goes to
say why uh, seniority and being around for a minute helps
to get projects through the process. So we very blessed to
have you. You doing, you all are doing a great job out
there. I'm very impressed with what's happening on the far
south side. You know, if I had some money, I'll probably
come out there and buy me some property out there man
because it's booming out there. But, um, if there, uh, if
there are no questions about the committee members, all
them bill made a motion for due pass on file, uh, number, a
dash 891889198920 and 8.
921 noting that file a 8921 will pass as a substitute all
in favor. Signify by saying I I all oppose and opinion of
the chair. The eyes have it? Congratulations again.
Did I miss 8917 and 8917? Okay, we want to make a note. Um,
we, he also uh, filed a motion, um, due pass on file,
88917. Okay, noted. Uh, and, uh, so all in favor signify by
saying, I all opposing opinion of the chair, the ice have,
it is complete. Thank you all very much. Congratulations,
almond, Bill Moseley, and Chico.
Much the staff.
Oh, 1 to the next item on page 4. Okay, we're going to the
next item on bottom of page 4.
Automatic map, amendment number 889091 W ordinance referred
referred 91824, a common address, 2972. South popular
Avenue, 922 Dash 958 West, 29th Street,
2871 Dash 73 and 2872 D, 82, South Quinn and 2935.
troop Street. Uh, change requests, M1 D1, limited
manufacturing District, 2, rt4 residential 2, flat,
townhouse and multi-unit District. Uh, we have almond and
Cole Lee.
Thank you. Chairman my first zoning meeting under your uh
leadership here. So I'm thrilled to be here. Um, thank you
for the opportunity to, uh, speak on this map amendment
that I've requested. Um, I I have over the course of the
last year begun to do some, um, right sizing in the ward,
finding different, uh, areas in the ward that are a little
out of place, uh, and this M1, uh, limited manufacturing
district is smack dab in the middle of all residential
areas. Uh, some requesting this map amendment to create
some Conformity, uh, be a little, uh,
Nicer to our community members to our property owners in
the area. Should they want to, uh, make improvements on
their properties? This brings everything into conformity in
terms of the rt4 designation with, uh, what is made up
currently in that area, which is predominantly 2 flats and
town houses and multi-unit. Um, dwellings. So with that, I
would ask for the committee's favorable support on this
item and if anybody's got questions, I'm happy to answer
them. Any questions about the body? If there are no further
questions back committee members, do I hear a motion do
pass Alderman? Larson, moved to pass. All in favor signify
by saying, I all opposed in the opinion of the charity
eyes, have it? Thank you Alderman. Lee, thank you. Um,
Moving on, we have 2 Landmark items up first is document
number 0r I'm I'm sorry. O r 20 we're going back to
page what page page 1 page 1 going back to page 1. Uh so
first is document number or 2024 D 013555 in the Great.
War, the demolition of a non-contributing historical
landmark building at 906 West Fort Market in the Fulton
Market Fortin.
Randolph Market, Landmark District. We have
Elish tophi.
Alice toffy of the Department of Planning and Development
to present on this matter.
Thank you, chairman, um, I leash Tuffy DPT staff to the
commission, on Chicago landmarks. Um, before you is a
request to approve. A demo permit for a non-contributing
building in the Fulton Randolph. Landmark District The
Fulton Randolph Landmark District was designated in 2015
the subject property at 9006, West Fulton, uh, dates to
1910 but was identified as a non-contributing building at
the time of the district, designation allowing for its
demolition.
The commission on Chicago landmarks and its permit Review
Committee have reviewed and conditionally approved. The
demo permit staff of the um, staff and the commission, seek
your approval of the demo permit, to further the larger
Redevelopment of the building spanning 900 to 910 West
Fulton Market the project. Architect Michelle Lebec with
Norr Architects and I are available for questions. Thank
you.
Okay, there there are no further questions by the committee
members.
Alderman Moore makes a motion to do pass on the order all
those in favor. Signify by saying, I
Post and opinion of the Cherry eyes have it? The item is
passed. Next is document number. Oh, r2022 0001366.
44th Ward, a technical Amendment to the Newport Avenue.
Chicago Landmark District boundaries to reflect relocation
of contributing buildings at 945-9953 West Newport Avenue.
Once again we have Elish
I lease toffee.
Toffee of the Department of Planning and Development to
present on this matter.
Thank you, chair. I leash tuppy dpd staff to the
commission, on Chicago, landmarks in 2014, as a result of
the cta's, federal review process for the red and purple,
modernization plan a memorandum of agreement required. Um,
the CTA to relocate the V Travers, building out of the path
of the track widening, which was completed in August of
2021.
1 of the conditions, um, of the commission on Chicago
landmarks 2020 approval of relocating, that contributing
building within the Newport Avenue Landmark District stated
that CTA shall work with the commission and consent to the
extension of the District, boundary to include the
relocated building within the Newport Avenue District prior
to selling the property to a private developer or require a
consent as a condition of that sale.
Fantastic. Is there any is? Are there any, uh, is there? If
there are no further questions by committee members, the
alderman, Michelle Harris makes a motion due pass on the
order.
All in favor. Signify by saying, I
Those opposed and the opinion of the charity. I have. I
have it. Thank you.
Thank you. Next up, we have Lars signs over. 100 square
feet in area. 24 feet above grade. We will hear them all
together. I will read the ward followed by the address and
take a motion at the end.
and the First Ward 1 sign each at,
1417 North Milwaukee and 251, West Armitage, and the Third
Ward 1 sign at 2537 South Wall Bosch 3 signs in the 20. In
the in the 7 W located at 7240 South Stony Island 3 signs
in the 7 W located at 2858 East 83rd Street.
3 signs in the 13439 West, 63rd Street in the 22nd. Ward 1
sign each at 41222 West 26th Street and 4233 West 36th
Street in the 27. Ward 1 sign located at 9555 West Grand 2
signs and the 28th for located at 919 South Ada.
2020.
8 Ward located, at 1532 West 14th Street in the 32nd. Ward
1, sign each at 10:30 West North Avenue and 3151 North
Lincoln Avenue 2 signs in the 32nd were located at 2258.
North Clybourn 1, signed in 344, located at 165 North
Desplains 1 sign and a 42nd were located at 415 North
Dearborn 3. Signs in the 42nd War located at 20 at 222
South Riverside Plaza.
In the 46 Ward 1 signed at 4838, North Sheridan in the 47
Ward 1, sign located at 30 at 3330 Northwestern and lastly
1 side and the 48 board located at 5937 North Broadway.
Okay, in the 302nd, ward.
Located at 2258, North flight 1 3151, is that still on
their 3151 North Lincoln?
31.
Okay.
So, what's the, uh, what's the, you just repeat it, but,
okay, in the 302nd. Ward, 1, sign. Each at 10:30 West North
North Avenue and 3151 North Lincoln Avenue. Thank you
Alderman. If there are no further questions by committee
members Alderman, Michelle Harris, make a motion to pass on
the orders all in favor signify by saying, I
Falls in the pain of the charity ice. Have it we will now
move on to the map amendments in an effort to ensure the
committee meeting runs as smoothly as possible items will
be grouped together according to witness and will be heard
in that order rather than Ward order.
We're on page.
Okay.
So we did all that. Oh we did all that. Okay, so at the top
of page 7,
We cooking with steam A7 here.
Okay, on top of page 7 number 22536 12 w ordinance referred
91824, common address 2800, South Ashland
Change request.
Reverse manufacturing plan. Development number, 53553 2.
Rivers Edge, manufacturing plan development number 5553, as
amended
Uh, my ride. The Gringo go.
L A Piper in Chicago. Uh, I apologize if I missed it. This
was application was considered in recommended for approval
at the November 21st plan commission hearing, and I would
ask that the transcript from that record. Be incorporated
into the record of today's proceedings.
this item was heard and passed by the Chicago plan
commission, Al Alderman, Vice chair, Larson makes a motion
to incorporate all records and findings from that hearing
all in favor. Signify by saying I I
All oppose. Say the eyes have it. The records are
Incorporated.
Thank you. Chairman the site consists of approximately 27,
Acres located at 2800 South Ashland Avenue, the site was
home to the Chicago Sun Times Printing. Plant. The
sometimes ended its printing up operations at the plant in
2011 qts. Acquired the property in 2014 and repurposed the
building as a data center.
Qts is now seeking an amendment to the existing PD to allow
the construction of a second Data Center building at the
site in the undeveloped area located north of the existing
building the existing Data Center and substation would
remain the existing parking lot would also remain with some
modifications to create the new building entry sequence
featuring native plantings.
The new Data Center building would include accessory office,
space oriented toward Ashland Avenue.
Cuties has worked with the community to review the proposed
plans. I'll note a couple of enhancements that are the
result of that Community process related to how the site
interacts with the adjacent canalport Riverwalk Park.
The adjacent Park is owned by the park district, and is not
part of the PD.
Uh first to address existing deficiencies in bike and
pedestrian access between Canal or Origins Park to the East
and Canal Port Riverwalk Park. Cuties plans to install a
pedestrian path on its property. Connecting the Ashland
crosswalk with the entrance to canalport Riverwalk Park.
Second cuties will install a perforated, metal screen. A
wall around the emergency generator equipment that will be
located on the north side of the new building facing the
Riverwalk Park.
The perforations will incorporate imagery. Which cuties
will design based on further, input from the community?
we grateful for the support and guidance of alderman
Rodriguez, as well as Alderman Lee whose Ward is located
immediately, east of the site, both have provided letters
of support that are part of the plan commission record and
I believe they are both in attendance. They don't see them
immediately but we have also worked with the park district
dpd and C dot on this matter and are grateful for their
support and guidance. Thank you for your consideration. I
respectfully request this. Committee's favorable
recommendation.
Yes, so we've heard from the Ottoman and they're okay with
it. Uh,
uh,
Ottoman, vagus you have a question and coincidentally there
is another committee meeting going on at the same time as
some of the Ottoman over there.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, um, I just wanted to know what's
the property tax revenue, what the Improvement?
Um we anticipate uh I think an incremental increase. I
actually I don't know if I have the specific data points. I
think the existing building generates maybe about a couple
million dollars in tax revenues, so right now, I believe
so. So we, uh, if I could just have a point of
clarification, I can see if our Representatives know that
offhand
And and the reason why I'm reason why I'm asking that
question, uh, Mr. Chairman is only because of the fact that
we, the city passed, an ordinance regarding data centers
about offering incentives. So I just wanted to highlight
how how, uh, impactful these are to our budget in a
positive way that creates revenue. And then also we've
created, if it um,
Uh incentives as well, uh, to store data locally. So that
way again, we can encourage these types of developments
throughout the city.
Thank you Alderman and we appreciate all your work that
you've been doing with data centers too, sir. I appreciate
it sir. Commend people. It's not a sexy topic but yeah.
Counselor.
My apologies, I thought I could see, we could get a
specific figure on that if there's no further questions
back committee members. Uh, do I hear a motion do pass by
by Vice chair. Larson muaz all in favor signify by saying,
I all those opposed any opinion of the chair, the eyes have
it. Now, we've been joined by Alderman Irving, so we're
to go back to page 5. Um number 891 0284 Ordnance referred
911824, common address 33123 44 West Lake Street.
Change request is a M13 limited manufacturing business park
district.
2, a C2 D3 motor vehicle related commercial District. Um,
Alderman.
Alderman uh Irving. Thank you Mr. Chairman uh members of
the committee uh this particular change is in relation to
uh the creation of a fire. The firebird Community Arts
Center, uh currently the area zone and 1. This is right at
the corner of home and uh, Lake Street. Uh, the firebird
and I, I want to thank, um, chairman for allowing them to
leave the
27 War to come to the 28th War, uh, also with the support of
of Tiff and um um I think that CRP funding. This is a
community.
Based organization, that provides a services around the
Arts primarily around, uh, glass. Um, I'll call it. Glass
making glass blowing as they have a kiln and other things
that they're uh disposal been a very successful program.
Again on the west side of Chicago and with uh ask for the
committee's favorable consideration on this uh change
request. Fantastic. So uh
So I'll be remiss if I did not commend you Alderman on on
uh finding a bigger space for them to grow. Uh, this is a
great organization uh, for profit, uh, and they actually
help uh, young men and women who are borderline, um, Young
Folks, uh, in our in our community, uh, trying to get them
to turn their lives around, and become more contributing to
the neighborhood. This is a, a good, uh, a good use of
property. Uh, I know that, uh, we got some, uh, emails from
some folks in your community who were a little um, Miss
somewhat misinformed, but because of the motor vehicle, uh,
zoning, uh, description of it. They thought it was going to
be a motor vehicle. Um, property. Yeah, that was, that was
some misinformation put out in the neighborhood about what
it was. I think, um, there are some other I'll call them
speculative property on
Owners that were looking for uh you know, other things that
that may have an impact on the, on the valuation. However,
um, this is something I, I believe that's in the best
interest of the community is providing a, uh, a service
that that's all they needed in the East Garfield Park
Community. Got a lot of young people in various stages of
their lives, doing different things.
And this is also, this area is becoming a hub. We have
Revolution Workshop, literally right across the street,
from there, in the 3400 block of of Home in, uh,
Inspiration Kitchens. All of the Workforce Development type
activities that are current in this, in this small
sectional Long Lake Street with the support.
Of funding from the Chicago Central Park Tiff. Um, this is,
this is become a hub for young people that are turning
their lives around to get to training. Uh, that they need
to be successful uh, later on. Again, while the therapeutic
nature of what a Firebird does is slightly different than
what um,
Revolution. Workshop does. However, it is all, it's all
integral in trying to help people turn their lives around.
So again, uh, while there was some misinformation in the
community around this issue, there's not a motive. It is
not a, a motor vehicle related activity is just a class of
zoning that is necessary for the activity. Uh, that happens
to happens to land in the C2 zoning, uh, zoning District
the city. Uh, this corner has been long vacant, uh, during
my entire tenure, and probably, uh, before that, uh, the
corner of lake and Home. In this is a great reactivation of
this project, that will pretty much, uh, build out the
balance.
Lake Street with the exception of the corner at Lake and
Kedzie. So again, uh, very positive project positive, use
uh, necessary for the community and it will allow this
particular organization to grow their capacity, to help
more young people, on the west side of Chicago.
Thank you very much. I'm appreciate what you're doing to
help these young people turn their lives around, uh,
So, with that, if there is no further questions by
committee members, do I hear a motion do pass?
by by, uh, Vice chair, Larson, move to pass all in favor
signify by saying, I all those opposing opinion of the
chair, the eyes have it, the item is passed. Thank you
alderman.
Uh, Now we move on to number 222578. He top of page 811
Ward.
Ordinance, referred 1099.
24.
Uh, common address, 5118 d-26, West, 26th Street, uh change
requests, RS3 residential, single unit detached house
district 2 b32 Community shopping district. Uh counselor
Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. My name for the
record is Thomas Moore. The, uh, this property had a
history where it was built in 2006 with 14 condo units
above 4 commercial units,
Sometime thereafter. It was down Zone to an RS3. So, none
of the commercial units can get, uh,
uh, licenses, uh, to run businesses. And so, um, the condo
group met with, uh, Alderman, Nicole, Lee, and she was
sympathetic to their, uh, issues, and because they're
paying taxes, but could not generate any revenue. And so we
had a community meeting and uh, we have a letter of support
from the Alderman and we'd appreciate your support as well.
Thank you. Any questions about the body? If there are no
further questions by committee members? Do I hear a motion
do pass?
So move by Allman Harris move dupes. All in favor signify
by saying I those opposed an opinion, not a chair, the eyes
have it. Now we move on to the middle of page 8, number
22577, 19, Ward ordinance, referred 10924, common address,
31213125 West, 111th Street, the change, request B1, D1,
neighborhood, shopping, district 2, a B3.
-1 Community shopping District counselor. Thank you Mr.
Chairman again my name is Tom Moore and with me today is
Sal is Salvatore Cortez. Mr, Cortez has been working in the
restaurant industry since he was 14. He's now the ripe old
age of 23 and he um has put together a team and approached
the um the owner of this property uh to uh open his own
Mexican restaurant there. Um, it's been dark for many years
and the neighborhood was just very enthused about it. Uh,
and the alderman, we had a meeting in the 19th Ward, and we
had a unanimous support, and the alderman is supportive. We
have a letter from him. And the reason, the problem is
that, and as you've probably encountered this, that in a
b11, you can't have a sit-down bar. And this now dark
restaurant has a beautiful iconic old bar.
Are uh, and uh, to get a license, he'd have to tear it out,
which makes no sense and made no sense to the community or
community, or to the alderman. So, by, uh, going from V1 to
B3, he can get a license, keeping the existing bar and uh
uh, Not only would it have been economically difficult. Uh,
it's also artistically, um, a beautiful, uh, room. And so,
um, uh, we have everyone's support that we know of and we
request your support as well.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, uh, Miss I'm sorry Council. I
switch places with you. Uh, are there any questions about
the body? If no further questions by committee members? Um,
we've heard from ottoman, OSHA, um, uh,
so Alderman, um,
Alderman Harris, moved to pass. All in favor. Signify by
saying, I all those opposing opinion the chairs, the eyes
have it. Thank you very much. Okay. Now we're going to go
out of order to pay, um,
15. The bottom of pay page, 15.
Uh, to uh, number 22225 302 Ward ordinance referred 7192.
common address 1840-1864.
Change. Request, M2 D3, light and Industry, District 2, a
D3. And then to a residential business, plan development,
counselor.
And we have slides on this 1. Yes ma'am.
Thank you, good afternoon.
Record again, my name is Katie janky Dale from the law,
firm of dla Piper.
Along with my colleague Rich. Clouter we represent the
applicant in this matter. 1840 North Mercy. LLC and
affiliate of Sterling Bay join me. Today is Fred curl from
Sterling Bay, I don't think. Uh, did you incorporate the
plan commission yet? Okay.
Sorry, this item was heard and passed by the Chicago plan
commission, uh, Alderman Cruise makes a motion to
incorporate all records and findings for that hearing all
in favor. Signify by saying, I I those opposed opinions.
Should I have it? The records are Incorporated
Pass and revise, thank you. We also wanted to note that
following the plan commission hearing the team worked with
dpd and C dot to add area infrastructure, improvements to
the proposal, which includes approximately 2 million in
improvements, that will be funded as part of the
development above and beyond what the PD would otherwise
warrant this includes updates to Signal timings um
additional bump outs, bike lanes and crosswalk and
pedestrian safety improvements.
On the property shown on the screen is, the former C
Robinson site located on the west side of Marcy, just south
of Armitage and the developer is proposing, a 2-phase
development, with an overall 615 units, 20 of which, or 20%
of which are 124 units will be affordable and provided on
site.
we've been working on this project for over 3 years uh with
dpd previously, with Alderman, Hopkins on the site was in
the second word and most recently with Alderman wages back
uh, now that the site is in the 32nd Ward, we've also
convened, a very well attended and positive community
meeting on site, last October, and attendees at the
meeting. Commended the projects on site affordable housing
and opportunity it would allow to
Provide to allow a diverse population to move or remain in
Lincoln Park. We are available to answer any questions but
thank you in the committee for your time and consideration.
Any questions Banning anyone from the committee?
Go ahead.
Thank you share. Um, I'm sorry. Could you give the the uh
affordable numbers again on this? Yes, absolutely. Um, So
20% of the 6005 units will be affordable on site that comes
out to 124 on site affordable units. There'll be affordable
at um a weighted average of 60% of area median income.
So okay, the total unit count then is around 6 and change
615 615. So, 124 odd sight. Is this a low affordability
area already designated? Or is that a designation? You'd be
looking for, we would be seeking, um, a separate ordinance.
Designating it as 1.
Okay. Um, and since I know 1 of the renderings showed
beautiful skyline of Lincoln yards in the background, um,
and I believe it's the same ownership group. Uh, could we
have a, a quick update on when we might see some action
there as well.
Uh Fred croll from the record uh, Australian Bay. Um, as
you may be aware, we have constructed the first building
there at 1229 Wisconsin cord. Um that is on the south end
of uh the Lincoln yard site. Um and we are uh currently
Engaged in efforts to recapitalize and uh, get started with
a future developments there as soon as possible.
Would that um before or after this this next project or
simultaneously uh you know market conditions will determine
the sequence at this point.
Sensible.
Um right. I don't have any further questions. Thank you
very much. So almond Wagers bag is not here but he did send
his trusted assistant to uh testify boy.
Hi, my name's. Paul said I'm uh, Chief of Staff to alderman
waguespack.
Um, by the new, um, zoning regulation. Um,
Uh, requesting a hearing, um, on any vote that zoning has
an active on, uh, the developer is requesting this vote in
committee.
Um, Alderman waguespack voted against the plan, um, against
that that ordinance in the plan commission, he wanted me to
to to, to make that statement. But his statement regarding
this um, uh, project is as follows.
I agree that um all the diverse parts of the city need
development in a sustainable and Equitable way.
Additional housing. Units, must be accomplished in a way
that, um, builds upon the strengths of our existing
neighborhoods in a sustainable way.
These buildings according to the opinion of neighborhood
groups and neighbors are 2 DS and 2 tall and will add to
the dense traffic in the area.
The affordable units are now partly on site but will
require the council to vote on reducing the overall
assessed value of buildings to zero for 3 years.
Then phasing it in by a percentage each year.
this at a time when we are voting on a massive property
tax, Pike,
It is, uh, declared to be a Transit oriented development.
But doesn't mean those deep dpd requirements and does the
opposite, the developer made an effort to address the
concerns of the community Through the new through new
traffic markings and signals.
Overall, I maintain my positions on.
On those from the plan commission. But respect the vote
being asked for today by the development team and will
abide by the zoning committee vote.
Okay. Thank you. Almond Crews.
Thank you, vice mayor. Um, I I have a couple questions and
I just want to make sure we again, I'm clarifying and on
the record. So, you are agreeing to 20% affordable housing
for this location. And I only ask because I know here in a
little bit about this development, um, at 1 point you will
have, you have not committed to 20% and I just want to make
sure that that is indeed a 20% affordable, how you're not
paying in the you're not paying into the in lieu
affordability funds.
Or rather bringing those units to, to the site.
Again, Fred cro for the record provided the low
affordability Community ordinance is passed. Yes, we will
be doing all 20% on site.
Will you reconsider or change? Um, your perspective by the
16th income and do possibly 40%.
So the, uh, and kitty Jinky Dale uh, from d like Piper. So,
So, the Amis that we're proposing track. The arrow
requirements, there will be some at or below, uh, 40%, um,
because it's a way to average, um, at 60% of the 60 per,
um, of the affordable units, um, 31 will be at or below 50%
and 5, will be at or below 40%. So there will be a blend.
And also based on the statement from the chief of staff.
Um, correct me. I'm wrong. So is this property? Did not pay
any type of taxes within the first 3 years. And after the 3
years, they started paying taxes.
So the um, what what the applicant is proposing is what
you've seen kind of across a lot of projects throughout the
city, following the state legislation affordable Illinois.
Um, the way it works is it's um, or a period of time, the
first 3 years, it's um, 100% reduction between the base
year, which is set today and they increased assessed value
and then, um, that tapers off over a period of time. So the
next 3 years that reduces down to 80% reduction and then it
reduces down to 40%. Um, that's uh, property tax program is
available by right and all downtown districts. So every
project in a downtown district does not need that low
affordability Community ordinance. But because we are
outside of downtown, um it requires a separate ordinance.
another 1 was actually passed by city council very recently
in this area for the annexer building on Clybourn as well
as for 2033 North kingsberry.
Which is just to the north and basically, what that
ordinance um, indicates is that. This census tract is an
area. In the state that has low levels of affordable
housing which with less than 13% of the housing stock in
Lincoln Park affordable. We have no doubt that we would
qualify for that. We have uh prepared that ordinance, and
transmitted it both to City staff, as well as Alderman. We
would hope that that would be approved. Um again given that
clearly this Lincoln Park Community.
Order. All right area is 1, that is lacking affordable.
Housing
As the older man said, you know, I think we're in a tough
time right now with all the taxes and you know, everybody
playing their part is is crucial here. So,
Um, I mean, this is tough to hear about the 3 years and,
you know, not having again. I know there's the law and
that's given, um, as as a state. Um, but let me ask you
this other stuff about Community, meetings. Did you engage
the community? How many meetings did you had? What was the
main feedback that you heard back?
Sure um, and just for the record so that the public don't
get confused. The the tax credits are only for the
affordable.
It's only for the 20% affordable know it's for the
affordable units, right? It's unlocked for the the
building. It's for the whole building press. Oh wow. Okay.
That's that's just the way the state legislation Works. Um,
and a lot of like I said, um, every project I've worked on
since it was past 2 or 3 years ago, it's doing a 20% on
site. That's the way that they're being that they're able
to do that. Um and again it only is the full 100% reduction
for the first 3 years and then it very much ramps down
after that and
Then the, you know, up to you being fully back on the tax
rolls.
Um and the question about the community process. So as I
mentioned, this is a unique site and that, um, we started
working on this back in 2021, um, at that time, it was in
the second ward. Uh, we met with North Branch works. We
also, um, and then in the, we've had a lot of back and
forth with Department of Planning and Development again
back, then it was under a different Administration around.
Um, use bigger area plans. Um, we are in complete
compliance with the North Branch framework plan that
applies in this area. Um, late last. Um, in the interim, we
switched to a different Award right now. Um, we're no
longer in the second ward, although we had been working for
Uh, close to 2 years with the previous older men. Um, we
had a very well attended community meeting, um, last
October. Um, a lot of people came out and like I said, in
my remarks were very positive about the opportunity, for
affordable housing in Lincoln Park. Um, as well as other
improvements, we then, uh, made additional changes
following that community meeting and things that we had
heard. Um, that was earlier this year in February, that we
made those. Um,
Those modifications.
And those changes that we made as a result were we reduced
the height of both buildings. Uh 1 by 20 feet 1 by 50 feet,
we reduced the parking uh kind of unique here is that we
were hearing there was being too much parking being
proposed. Whereas um oftentimes uh we hear the opposite. We
We also reduce the um retail area again in response to a
neighborhood, concerns about the intensity of the use on
the site and then we made additional uh design changes as
part of those. Um as part of those, the feedback we heard
from the community.
I I think it's also worth noting we had a letter of support
from North Branch works as well as the Linkin Park Chamber
of Commerce. In addition, a plan commission, we had, uh,
close to 250 signatures in support from community members
for the project as well.
Thank thank you Alderman, Cruise. Thank you, Chief of
Staff. Um, so um,
if there's no further quote, Oh, Alderman, bill,
I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, I had stepped out for for a
second. Uh, what is, um, the Ottomans opinion and view on
this?
so, his chief of staff, uh,
So init it sound like initially when it went through plan
commission, the alderman had some challenges, it seemed
like in between time they worked out some uh they worked
out some things and he's not going against it now. Am I
correct or I'm not I'm I, you know, you I
I think it's he a bad about whatever the committee for his,
his statement. His intention was for his statement to speak
for itself. So I I don't know that it would be appropriate
for me to
Elaborate any further beyond that? I mean, I think he
remains concerned as as his statement said.
Uh, you know.
The same concerns that he had when it went to plan
commission. He has now
So that sounds like the ultimate still has concern. But
from your last statement, was you left it at the will of
the committee.
Right. Right, right. Given that given that, he, he his
given that. He, he understands that there's a process where
you guys vote and you either vote to approve it or
Or not.
so I I do know at 1 time, um,
In my conversation with the alderman.
That he was concerned about them, doing all of the
affordable on site.
Right now, they doing all of the affordable on site.
Uh, and I know that there was some traffic things and it
seemed like those things were worked out.
Uh, I don't know what the other stuff is. Um, so I just
to mention well I mean I mean that doesn't give me a a
comfort level, um you know without the order and actually
being here.
Um, you know, I understand the statement, uh, but I would
really just like to hear straight from the ottoman. Um, if
he, his concerns have been addressed, if not um, you know
we need we need his Direction on this. This is a huge
project and in his Ward and, uh, I understand what his
position is. Well, no, I don't understand what his position
is. And so with that Mr. Chairman, I recommend that we hold
this for another month. Until we hear directly from the
ottoman,
So, are you asking us to hold it for another month?
Is, is the ottoman asking for it to be helpful? Now, the
yeah, he has not even go against the ottoman either way.
Right. He has not indicated to me that he's asking for it
to be deferred his his understanding is, you know, there's
a Time clock that, you know, goes
once it once it comes to the committee and the committee
doesn't act,
Then there's an assumption that it's that it's been
approved even has an act. So there's a there's an
inclusionary housing thing that a new rule that we have is
something goes before the plan commission. After 6 months
if it if it if it doesn't um if we don't act on it,
Uh, Patrick do you want to explain?
Uh, Patrick Murphy, the department of planning. Uh, there
is, uh, a provision in the municipal code that allows for
applications.
which achieve what the Department of Housing, determines to
be inclusionary status, which, which is in regards to the
quantity of affordable housing, its provision on site and
then other characteristics of the community in which the
house, the project is provided the Department of Housing
determines that that accumulated criteria achieves the
inclusionary housing status. Then there is an additional up
to 6 months that a project can wait to be either heard by
committee. And if it's, if it is not voted on then there is
a path. There is a pathway for it to automatically be
approved in the subsequent committee report 6 months from
now.
Mr. Chairman um, I would
Beg the body to just hold this until I hear from the
alderman. Um,
so I've already reached out to him. So as soon as I hear
from him and get some Direction, I Would request to just be
held right now and wait. All right, we'll hold it for a
minute. Thank you. All right, we'll hold for a minute. All
right, let's move on to the next. Uh,
Where we at Ya page 8, bottom of page, by Page 8 number
22592 124 ordinance, referred 102224 common address 4458.
South California Avenue.
uh, change requests or RS3, residential single unit, uh,
detach house district district to B2 Dash 1.5 neighborhood,
mixed use District.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, my name is Emmanuel Byer with an
attorney at the law firm schain Banks, Kenny and Schwarz
and attorney for the property owner BG LLC. The pro uh the
subject property is Seeking a zoning map Amendment from an
RS3 to a b215. Um essentially the property has has had a
commercial storefront Unit A historically. Um but since
it's in the RS3, it suffered from a vacancy for over 18
months so it lost its non-conforming status.
It's just seeking to move to um a compliance zoning District
to allow for an ice cream shop to be put into that uh
storefront unit. Um the applicant has worked with all the
the member Ramirez and and she has provided a letter of
support where I respectfully request this committee to
favorably recommend the rezoning of 4458 South California.
Be happy to answer any questions. Yeah. So we have the
Ottomans letter. There's no further questions about the
committee, uh, committee members. Do I hear a motion do
pass?
Almond Crews, move to pass, all in favor. Say I all oppose
any opinion of the chair, the eyes, have it and now we move
to number 22584 dt1 in the 27. Ward referred 1099244 coming
address.
Uh, 88811, West, Evergreen Avenue. Change request C3. D5
commercial manufacturing and employment District to a B25
neighborhood. Mixed use District.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee,
hold on there's a substitute ordinance. So a substitute
Narrative of plans Alderman. Michelle has moved to accept
the substitute Narrative of plans for the type 1
application, all in favor. Signify by saying I I all oppose
any opinion chair, the ice, have it the substitute
narrative and plans are accepted
Thank you. Go ahead counselor. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and
members of the committee.
Yeah, so the counselor is the counselor here. They told me
I can sit here.
All right, come on up.
No, big deal.
Okay.
So we uh, accepted the substitute remove the substitute
plan. Please continue Mr. Manic.
Thank you, Vice chairman Lawson, uh, for the record. My
name is Tyler manak. I'm an attorney with Shane Banks,
Kenny, and Schwarz. I'm here on the property. Owner 811
West, Evergreen, LLC, which owns a property at 811, West
Evergreen,
811 West Evergreen is improved with a 4-story office
building. The applicant intends to convert the vacant
office building to a multi-unit Residential Building
containing. 47 dwelling units. 20% of these units will be
on site affordable units. The rest of the building will
remain as is
To accomplish this residential conversion, the applicant
seeks to rezone the parcel from c35 the B25.
Um, with this map Amendment application because it is an
existing building with a new use the applicant seeks. Um,
the various administrative relief, uh, that relief includes
includes, um, administrative adjustment to reduce the
parking to zero. As this is a Transit serve location near
the CTA North Clybourn station in holstead bus line
Corridor in addition, the applicant seeks relief to reduce
the 30 foot rear, setback back to zero, to the extent that
rear setback applies to preserve the existing setback.
Finally the existing loading space is about 1 foot shorter,
the required Dimensions. So we're seeking relief to reduce
the loading space, requirement from 1 to 0
This project was reviewed and approved by the near North
Unity program. The local community Organization for this
area. Uh, We've also discussed this project with chairman
Bernett and I know he's here to speak on this matter.
Right. Thank you. Chairman.
You Mr. Chairman members of the committee, they met with
our local community organization, which is the neighbors of
River West. We had a community meeting,
Not the neighbors of River West. And then North Unity
program and, uh, everyone was in favor of it. I have no
problem with it. I asked for the committee support. Thank
you. Thank you. Any other questions by community members,
seeing none, all in Cruise moves due pass on favor. Say, I
And I opinion chair. The eyes have it. The item is passed.
Thank you, Mr. Manic, thank you. We're going to run through
the 27th Ward items, uh, real quick. So we're going to go a
little bit out of order, jumping to page 10, top of page,
10 document number 222596621 on the 27th. Ward ordinance,
referred 10222244. Common address is 1735 through. 47 West
Grand Avenue, change requests M12, limited manufacturing,
business, park district to b33 community shopping district.
We have attorney, Nick fatik, good afternoon. Uh, Vice
chair. Nick fatigue is for the record from the losses of
Sam Banks. I'm here on behalf of 173547 West Grand, LLC,
the uh, contract purchaser of the property. Uh the subject
of property currently is improved with a uh single family
home and surface parking. The proposed zoning change will
permit a Redevelopment project for 5-year, continuing
approximately 2,750 square feet of uh grade level retail
space. And
2 residential units above uh the subject property is a uh
Transit service location and we'll be supported by 20
parking spaces. Additionally, we are asking um for
companion. Uh administrative adjustment variation approval
because of the subject, Lots uh, 85 foot depth Dimension,
as well as, uh, a rear Frontage on Ferdinand Street. Um, we
did meet with uh, Alderman, Bernett and participating in
community meeting and we believe we have the Alderaan
support to proceed uh today.
Thank you. Uh, I know uh, the alderman has indicated his
support or actually, uh, charging speak on that.
The community meeting uh, is the neighbors of River. West
know this, uh, Peter Frisbee and uh oh okay, the uh Grand
Avenue.
Uh, Community Association. We had a meeting and they were
in support of it. Uh, I'm in support of, as, for the
committee support. Thank you, great. Thank you chair. Uh,
seeing no other questions by committee members, all them.
And Bill moves. Do pass all in favor. Say I
Any post say any name and enjoy the eyes have it. All
right. Uh, the next item in the 27th. Number 22574 in the
27th, word ordinance, referred 10924. Common address is
1220 West Jackson Boulevard. Change request residential
business, plan development.
14082 residential business plan development 1408 as amended.
We have attorney Michael esgar.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman members of the committee, Michael
esgar from the law firm of acasta esgar on behalf of the
applicant, MZ West Loop, LLC as a preliminary matter. This
did go to the plan Commission in November, uh, and I would
respectfully request that the record of that proceeding, be
incorporated here. Yes, the item of certain pass by the
plan commission. Alder Cruise makes a motion to incorporate
To incorporate all records and findings from that hearing
all in favor. Say I
any opposed say nay opinion of the chair. The eyes have it,
the records are Incorporated. Please proceed.
I was giving them a moment to it's okay if we don't have
the slides, but okay, that's fine. So, uh, this was, uh,
project was previously approved in March of 2018, and, uh,
since that time a building was built with 166 units, 20%
on-site affordable, the entire building is occupied, but
the ground floor space, uh, that we're supposed to be
commercial was never leased up. And, and so this applicant
seeks to, uh, convert that use into 10 residential units
and that triggered the Aro. So, we are doing, uh, 1 unit.
Actually, interestingly at 30% Ami, um, and we've met with
the community, the majority of the community was supportive
and worked through with Alderman Bernett, uh, through the
process. So and I know
Here. So we're here to answer any questions. Great uh vice
mayor Bernett. You want to add
Mr. Chairman members of the committee. Uh we did have a
community. Well he, he met with the community organizations
organizations in this. This is a a property where they've
had a first floor Condo building, uh, with commercial owner
first floor, where they couldn't rent it out for several
years. Uh, so the condo board and the adjacent neighbors to
the property agreed, to allow it to become residential, in
order to get, get some activity and some more eyes on the
street. So I asked for the committee support on this. Thank
you. Thank you. Uh, vice mayor, any questions by committee
members, seeing none. All in Bill moves, do pass on favor.
Say, I
I make sure the eyes have it.
And the item is passed uh, with the Incorporated records.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Esar that concludes the 27th
Ward. Um items. We're going to go back to the middle of
page 9 document number 22583 and the 14th. Ward ordinance
referred 10924. Common address is 2511 through, I'm sorry.
2511 West 51st Street change requests. B31 Community
shopping district to be 32 Community shopping district.
I don't have a name, so please introduce yourselves. I want
you to settle for the record.
My name is Beckley. I'm the engineer of record here with me
is the owner Angelica solo.
And we are here to seek zonai Amendment.
for 2511 West 54th Street uh from B 3-1 to B 3-2 so that
the owner can build 3 Story, 3, drawing unit building,
which is about 31 ft 5 inches in height with 3, rear
parking spaces, no commercial spaces and also, we will be
the owner will be seeking approval for ground 4 use for
residential use.
Thank you, great. Thank you. Any questions by committee
members?
On the bill, Mr. Chairman um,
I guess this is for the zoning administrator. We don't uh,
have a zoning that would allow them to do this at, right.
That, you know, without having to come back before a
special use.
Well.
We do have a zoning District that would allow them to do it
by right. They could go to B2, they would need a map
Amendment anyway because of the density under the 3 B 3-1
District. So
there is a district that could get them to it by, right?
Uh, the B3. Leave some optionality for, uh, ground floor
with more difference to some ground floor, commercial space
and not prioritizing the residential.
But his testimony is they're not looking to do any
commercial use, so why would we not recommend them to to do
this by right? Instead of having to come back for a special
use? Well, I don't I don't know what discussions took
place.
With the Elder woman. I mean, did you know, was there a
discussion about wanting to keep it?
Uh, more consistent from a B3 standpoint because of what's
there?
It's all generally speaking, we would want to have some
consistency in the adjacent districts.
That does put a burden on having a special use for the
ground floor residential. I agree. I just, I don't know
what discussions might have taken place as far as landing
on the B3 versus the B2. Go ahead and address that.
Actually, once that when your mics on, go ahead, okay. I'm
sorry. Um, I spoke to the alderman. I had a meeting with
her and in, on 51st Street, there's a lack of, um, there
are a lot of empty commercial spaces, so that's why we are
doing a 3-story, um, building for, uh, for rental units. We
are not seeking to do, uh, commercial
In the ground floor, we want to rent it out for so I I think
all the bills point is that there you may have had a better
process than the 1 you're going through. Okay, for whatever
reason, you're going through the process, you are. Um, and
we know that all the all the woman's on board, but, um, a
B22 probably would have gotten you what you needed as well
just for my quick back of the napkin read of some of this
stuff. Correct. Correct. All the way in that on its face.
Um,
Without having to repost. Well it's, it is a lesser
designation, so it could be amended. But
yes, you can uh, because it's it's a lesser degree of of of
Z development rights. Um,
I, I don't know if I don't know what I I don't want to
for the older woman though. Sorry, I'm I'm trying to I'm
I'm trying to help the Almond out as well as the resident,
right. That is looking to do this without having to come
back before this body. So what we're going to do is we're
going to hold this item for just a second and have a
conversation and see if there's another path that we can
take care of today, or next month. It might save you some
time and money.
Thank you. Yes, we do. We do know, the ultimate is
supportive, but I think we just want to figure out if
there's a, a better path for everybody. So, we'll hold this
item for now and I'll call the next 1. And we call this
later in the meeting.
Right. So uh, the next item up then is document number
225, I'm sorry. 22597 and the 21st? Ward ordinance,
referred 103124, common address is 112 West, 87th Street.
Change request is plan development, 425 to plan
development, 425 as amended, we have attorney Nick, fatik,
Cheer, this matter is going to be deferred, uh, so that the
matter can be heard of the plan commission, uh, later this
month.
Great. Uh Alder. Um Beal makes a motion to defer the
previously, read item all in favor. Say I any opposed say
nay the chair that eyes have an item is deferred.
All right, um middle of page. 10 is document number 22589
in the 50th, Ward ordinance, referred 10924. Common address
is 2125 West Devon Avenue, change request RS3 residential,
single unit detached house district to be 211 neighborhood
mixed-use District. Once again, Nick fatigas. Thank you,
chair. Nick fatigue is for the record, Law Office is a Sam
Banks. I'm here on behalf of the property owner. Uh again
concerning 2125 West, Devon the subject property is
currently improved with a vacant retail space at the front
of the building, uh, at the front of the property, and then
a single unit at the rear the, uh, current zoning will not
allow us to reestablish the uh, retail grade uh, retail
unit at grade.
So the zoning change would do just that it would also allow
for the continued. First floor residential use at the rear
of the property. We did work with Alderman Silverstein, we
do have a letter of support on file, any questions? I'd be
happy to answer them. Any questions by committee members?
Saying, none Alderman, Bill moves due pass all in favor.
I I any opposed say nay and the opinion of the chair, the
eyes have it. Uh and the item is passed. Thank you sir.
Thank you. Uh, next is bottom of page 10. Document number
22576, the 25th word ordinance for referred 10. 924, common
common address is 2648 West 21st Street change request is
b32 community shopping district, to be 333 Community
shopping districts.
Um, I don't have Andrew Scott here, but, uh, please
introduce yourself and proceed. Oh, good afternoon.
Chairman our vice chair Lawson. Uh, my name is Aaron dorsy
for the record. Um,
Of the law firm of dika mset 10, South wager, Drive Suite
2300. Uh, we represent the applicant John Frank and his
application rezone the property located at 2648 West 21st
Street, from the b32 community shopping district, to the
b33 community shopping district,
For the purpose of converting, the existing 3 dwellant, you
dwelling unit building into a fourth dwelling unit
building.
Uh just to clarify. The building is uh in existence, the
fourth unit is in existence as well. We're just um
upgrading the zoning to be able to recognize legally
Legally recognized the unit, the fourth unit
Uh, the applicant has gone through the Alderman's Community
engagement process. Um,
we've sent out the required notice of surrounding property
owners and have not received any opposition. I believe. We
also have a letter of support on file from Alzheimer's.
We do have a correspondence from all Lopez. Any questions
by committee members?
saying, on all those due pass, all in favor say I
Any opposed say nay ensure the eyes have it item is passed.
Thank you, sir.
Uh, top of page 11.
Document number 22579221 and the 25th, Ward ordinance,
referred 10924, common address is 2335 South Hoyne Avenue.
Change requests RS3, residential, single unit detached
house, district to Armed 5.5 residential multi-unit
District. Um, I have him in at Castro, but I don't think I
have him at a go ahead and introduce yourself and proceed.
Uh, good afternoon, chairman and members of the committee.
My name is Daniel Egan with the law firm acasta Edgar. Uh,
I'm the attorney for the applicant, uh, pl2 33351 LLC, um,
This property is a part of a companion. Oh
For the, for the introdu, uh, preliminary matter substitute
narratives, uh, and plans, as well as a as EDS forms were
submitted. We'd like to introduce those into the record. So
um, uh yes, uh, all the bill moves to accept the substitute
narrative and plans for the type 1 application. All in
favor, say I
Any opposed say nay can you show the eyes have it in the
substitute plans? Narratives are ahead of us. I'm actually
we're going to take these 2 items together, okay? Um since
you have both on Hine, okay? Um, I'll also the second item
then is document number 225808021 in the 25th, word
ordinance, referred 10924, common address, 2337, South
Horne, change request RS3, residential signal, unit
detached, house district, to rm6 residential multi-unit,
District, all their bill moves to accept the substitute and
air and plans for this type, 1 application, as well. This
all I've ever say, I I and they both say, they ensure the
eyes have it. We are good to go proceed.
Uh, 23, 2235 South Hoyne Avenue, uh, is a 2,421 square foot
lot in the mid block of the east side of Hoyne, of South
Hoyne. Uh, the lot is only 100 feet deep, uh, it is
immediately north of the companion case, this of 2237 South
Hoyne. And there's also, uh, 100 ft deep. Um, this
resoning, uh, is to allow the division of the Lots, uh, so
that they can be improved separately. Uh, the the proposed
Zoning for this resoning, for this case is RS3 to RM 5.5,
both sites are TSL to the Daemon.
Pink line, approximately 1,900 ft away. Uh, 2235 current is
currently improved with a 2-story brick in frame building
with 3 units, a basement on the F basement first. And
second at the applicant proposes, to build a third floor
Addition, uh, in a and add a fourth unit. Parking is
currently provided in a 2-car garage, that is located on
the 2337 lot and is to be demolished and replaced by 2
parking spaces for the 2335 lot. Uh, in addition to the
to the resoning variations, or sought to reduce the front
yard from 12 feet to 11.42 feet side yards, uh, nor the
north yard from 2 feet to 6.6 feet. The South will comply
at 2.5 feet. Uh, the combined side, setbacks reduced from
4.84 feet to 3 feet. Um, and to relocate, the required open
space from 144 feet, um, and convert to rear decks, which
have a combined size of 388 square feet,
Um, this project, uh, 2 2235 South Hoyne has been reviewed
by the alderman. Zoning Advisory Board, and has the
alderman support, um, on to 22.
37. Um, this property. Uh, contains 2379 Square ft. Like the
neighboring lot has 100 is 100 ft of depth. Um, it is
currently vacant except for the garage which will be
demolished that serves the 2335 building on the applicant
seeks to resolve the property from RS3 to rm6 to allow
development of a new 6-unit building with 2 surface parking
spaces.
The property is Transit, uh serve being 1,900,
approximately 1,900 ft away, or south of the CTA, pink Line
Station on Horne. Uh, in addition to the resoning
and administrative adjustments or sought to reduce the
reduce the parking from 6 spaces to 2 p 2 spaces. Uh the
front yard from 12 feet to 0 side yards. So the north from
3.35 feet to 7 inches. The Southside setback from 3.35 to
3.1 feet. Uh, the combined side, setbacks reduced from 6
feet, uh, to 3.67 feet. Um,
And also, to relocate, the required open, space to rear
decks, which have combined size of 195 or 193.5, square
feet. Uh, this project and rezoning have been reviewed by
the alderman, zoning Advisory Board, and has the alderman
support.
Great. Thank you. You are rocking the adjustment add-ons
today. Well done. Well done. Have you know questions by
committee members? All the crews moves do pass all in
favor. Say I I any opposed say nay to the chair the eyes
have the item is passed. Thank you.
Uh top of page. 12 is document number 22574 in the 27th.
Ward. Sorry, we did that 1 already.
Middle of page, 12.
uh document number 2255421 and the 47th Ward ordinance,
referred 98224, common address, 2247, West Lawrence Avenue.
Change request b23 neighborhood. Mixed use districts to be
255 neighborhood. Mixed juice District, Rolando aosta. No,
no continue again. Uh, my name is Daniel lean, uh, attorney
for the law firm, Casta, Edgar. I am the attorney for the
applicant, um, which is 2247, West, Lawrence LLC. Um, so
this priority contains 8, 7347, uh, square feet and is
located, midblock on the south side of Lawrence. Uh, it was
pre previously resand in 2017 to a b23 to allow for the
construction of a 4-story building with a basement, uh,
containing 24 residential units and approximately 2,232
square feet of commercial space, and that was located in
the lower level of the basement. Uh, it has 6 parking
spaces in the project was completed in approximately 2019.
Properties. TSL to the Western Brown Line, CTA stop and
approximately 880 ft. 885 ft away. Uh, the commercial space
because it's partially below grade has been difficult to
lease. The current application seeks to Res the property to
a B25 to allow the commercial space to be converted to 2
residential units.
No exterior changes to the building are proposed, west of
the property is a restaurant. East is a daycare and then
wholly residential buildings across Lawrence. There's a
mixed use building with a salon occupying, the commercial
space and wholly residential buildings as a part of the
resoning. The applicant seeks 2 administrative adjustments.
1 to reduce the additional required 2, parking spaces to
zero, and the other to reduce the the required 2,
additional biking spaces. Uh to zero, both result from the
presence of the building and they're being no additional
space on site or within the building.
The project was reviewed by the heart of Lincoln Square
neighbors Association and the Lincoln Square Ravenswood
Chamber of Commerce and both were support of The Proposal.
It also was reviewed by the alderman, zoning advisory
committee, and recommended for approval. It has almond
Martin support, and a letter has been provided to the
committee. We ask for your favorable consideration. Great
thank you, Mr. Reed, and we also have a sub here, Alder
Cruise moves to accept the substitute narrative and plans
for the type 1 application. All in favor. Say, I, I any
opposed say nay and the opinion, share the ice, have it
substitute nerve and plans are accepted hearing no
questions from committee members, all around Cruise, makes
a motion to pass all in favor. Say, I, I any opposed say
nay, the eyes have it,
Item has passed. Thank you.
All right. Bottom of page. 12 is document number. 22595 T1.
The 25th Ward ordinance, referred 102224. Common address is
2658 West 21st, Place. Change requests as an rt4
residential 2, flat townhouse and multi-unit District to
rm6 residential multi-unit District. We have attorney
Jordan matches,
good afternoon. My name is not Jordan mattress. I'm
attorney Joseph here on behalf of Mr. Mattress.
Please proceed. Thank you.
The current property is a 2. 2-story 3, dwelling unit,
multi family Residential Building at 2658 West 21st place.
The current zoning is rt4.
The building is inefficiently large with only 3. Dwelling
units and the applicant is proposing to change res. The
property to rm6 to accommodate the increase in floor area
ratio to 4.4
So that he can increase the dwelling units from 3 to 8.
Along with the resoning. We requesting administrative
adjustments to reduce the minimum off Street automobile
parking requirements by 100%.
The property itself completely fills the lot and there is
no room to add parking. The property is also in a Transit
service location within range of the CTA, pink Line Station
at 2011, South California,
and within range of the CTA bus line, smack corridor
We believe we have a letter of recommendation from
Alderman, Lopez on file.
Yes, I see Lopez has been in touch with the committee. Um,
any questions seeing none all around Cruise moves due pass
all in favor. Say, I, I, I and the posture the eyes have it
item is passed. Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
All right, we're going to go back.
What are we doing? 1 sec. We're going to go back to the
item in the 14th board, all the way over to tears would
like to help them out.
All the substitute orients she's in support of the
substitute, okay? So we're going to call document number
22583 and the 14th. Ward ordinance referred 10924 common
address, 2511 West, 51st Street change request, b31
Community shopping, district 2.
B32 Community shopping district but we have a substitute
that is going to make some things simpler.
um, and so the substitute before us, you'll speak on
Yes. All right, all the crews makes a motion to accept the
substitute ordinance all in favor. Say I I and they
supposed to make sure the eyes have it substitute is before
us proceed.
My name is Beckley. We are here to seek, uh, zoning
Amendment map.
For 2511 West 54th Street. Uh right here is 1 of the owner,
Angelica Soto. Um, we have the automat support a
residential Toy Story, dwelling unit, building a height of
301, ft 5 inches, height, 3, rear parking spaces, no
commercial space. Um,
Thank you. The district regarding to is not b32 though but
B22 B22 which allows residential on the first floor by?
Right? And then you don't need special use. Thank you. I
have got so. All right, so we saved just a step today. City
of The Works, don't forget it right? All right. Any
questions by committee members saying no and all of them
and Bill good catch. Mix the motion all in favor. Say, I
And they post their name. Pretty sure the eyes have it. The
item is passed as substituted. Thank you, thank you.
You ready? All right.
So we're going to go back to the bottom of page 15 um, call
me Bill. Made the most of the diverted previous red item.
uh, all in favor say I
Post and the pinna, the chair that the eyes have it. Uh
file number, 222225321 Ordnance, refers 71923 uh common
address, 1840, 1866 North Marcy Avenue. Change requests
from the M23 light industrial district to a b33. And then
to a residential business plan, development is what was
asked to be deferred and that's the first, thank you.
Okay, now we move on to the top of page 13 to the top of
page. 13 number 22598 31st, Ward ordinance, referred
change common address 2541, North Carolina, change
requests, RS3 residential, single unit detach house
district 2 rm4.5 residential multi-unit District.
Councilor.
To the committee. My name is Mark kupc. I'm an attorney and
I represent the applicant.
Uh property is 2541 North kildair.
Uh the Teresa Ramirez is the manager member of the
applicant LLC 3 submit with Alderman Cardona explained the
project asked for his support. I followed up with staff
answering questions and supplying additional information.
Um, I believe you have a letter of support from the
alderman, your file. Yes, we do.
And with that, we ask for your recommendation. Sure. So,
uh, are there any questions about the body about the
committee members?
Seeing no questions. Um,
There's a motion by uh, by Cher Lawson moodu pass all in
favor. Signify by saying, I all oppose any opinion of the
chairs eyes have it, guys. We got about 6 more to go. We
almost out of here. So the uh number 225 91. Thank you,
counselor 91.
Dt1 302 W ordinance, referred 102224 2741, North Green View
Avenue. Uh change request M2, light industrial district, 2
rt4 residential 2. Flat townhouse and multi-unit District.
Um,
Good afternoon, chairman brunette. Yes, excuse me
counselor. Uh, um, Alderman Moore makes a motion uh, to
accept the substitute ordinance. There's a substitute with
this all in favor signify by saying, I all those opposing
opinion of the chair of the ice, have it, the substitute is
before us counselor. Uh, Daniel lower for the contract
purchaser. Uh, Mr. Chairman, um uh, this is a older 2 or 3
flat. Um, it's um, kind of an anomaly. It was part of a
manufacturing district. And, uh, the proposal is to go to,
um the surrounding District, rt4 to allow 3 dwelling units
and uh they'll be 3 garage spaces. Uh,
um, so by administrative adjustment we're asking to add
because we're very close to the CTA number 76 bus line and
line and uh Paul sag from Ward 32 is here, but we have a
letter of support from Alderman wgs pack and we're very
grateful for his support.
Do you want to speak?
Very briefly. Uh, We've we refer this item to both. Oh
sorry, Paul sag Chief of Staff to Alderman waguespack, 302
Ward. We referred this item to both the neighborhood
community organizations active in the area, and they
reviewed it and um had no objections in the elderman
supports it. So we thank you for your consideration.
All right. Uh, are there any questions by uh further
questions about the committee? Um, seeing none, almond,
bill moodu pass all in favor. Signify by saying, I all
oppose and opinion of the Cherry eyes have it. We will now
move to number 22582 and the 36. Ward ordinance, referred
1022224, common address, 1541 D, 1543, North Colin. Um,
change request, RS3 residential, single unit detach house,
district 2, B15 neighborhood shopping district.
And we have a substitute on this also. So we have a
substitute on this. Also, uh, Alderman Crews. Moved to make
a motion to accept the substitute ordinance all in favor.
Say I I all opposing opinion chairs, say eyes, have it
counselor?
Good morning. Uh good afternoon Mr. Chairperson, the
members of the zoning committee. My name is Carlton odm,
I'm appearing on behalf of the applicant 4341 North LLC.
Uh, the committee has, um, accepted the, uh, substitute
ordinance.
Um the the applicant is a family-owned limited liability
corporation, which owns, and operates a block away from the
uh, property a daycare center called Northstar Child
Development Center.
um, the property the uh applicant attends attempts to uh
proposes to use as a parking lot uh with 7 parking spaces.
Uh, the applicant intends to build no structure on the
property.
the applicant has met with the aldermen and his staff and,
uh,
Um, they agree. Um, and support this uh application.
And I believe a member of the alderman staff is present and
will speak.
Okay. Uh, are there any questions about a committee?
Are you a witness? Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead. First Ward, I
mean, uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman, appreciate it. Uh, for
the record, my name is Raymond, Valadez policy director,
economic development, liaison, for Alderman Villegas, 36
36 word, uh, the applicant, uh, and his attorney did have a
did host a community meeting, uh, virtual 1. Uh, and the
community is supportive of this lot being changed from
residential to a commercial zoning classification. So they
can have, uh, parking lot for the daycare center, uh, that
it's very nearby. So, therefore, Alderman Vegas would be
appreciative of the committee support. Thank you.
Okay, any other questions about the committee? If there's
No questions about a committee, a members, uh, almond
Cruise. Make a motion to move to pass all in favor. Signify
by saying, I I all opposing opinion and chair. See you guys
have it now. We move to the 37 Ward, number 2259437, War
orders referred 1022224 common address 5213 West for to
The Avenue change requests, RS3 residential, single unit
detached house, district to b11 Neighborhood, shopping
district.
Uh, anyone to testify on this.
They say your name, uh, for the committee for the record.
Oh good, good afternoon, committee. Karen, Sean behalf of
clean community.
Today we're here on 5213 West West Potomic uh changing from
an RS3 to a B1. Um I have here with me the the owner and
applicant of clean community and also the architect in case
the committee has any questions. Uh this is a already
existing, I'm sorry. Uh previously improved lot with a
Uh, 2 story structure.
And a parking lot. The lot is 10,930 square ft, the
building is 4 4129 Square ft. The project seeks to, uh,
operate, a nonprofit training center for renewable energy.
All improvements will be contained with inside the building
with uh modest improvements on the outside and uh to the
parking lot.
There will be 14 parking lots available with 5 charging
stations.
The basement level will be used as an open space with a
kitchen and a vent for local officials and the community.
The first floor will hold solar and HVAC classrooms with
administrative offices. Currently the the property is zoned
as RS3, which does not allow for um uh uh business support
services or trade school uh, by rezoning to be 1-1-1 the
trade school and uh, business support services will be
allowed.
We have uh, spoken with Miss Emma, M Alderman, Emma mitts.
Uh we also held a community meeting to which there was no
objection. We have also included a letter of support from
the alderman. Um, if there are no, uh, questions from the
committee, we we submit this plan and and ask for approval.
Questions about a body.
Uh, if there's no further questions by committee members,
uh, do I hear motion to pass? Uh, there's a motion bow bill
pass all in favor signify by saying, I
All oppose any opinion of the chair to I have it. Uh the
item is passed. Thank you, thank you. Now we move to number
2258739 Ward. Ugh ordinance referred 10924, a document
number zero, I'm sorry. Oh 2. 024 d 0001302.
address 46006, North Kelso Avenue, change request RS3.
Residential single unit detached house district, 2, rt3.5
residential 2, flat, townhouse and multi-unit District.
Counselor, good afternoon. Uh, Mr. Chairman members of the
committee, my name is attorney Colleen dhy of colpac Law
Group. Um here on behalf of the applicant zeneli, 88 LLC,
who is also the owner of the property. Um, here today
asking for a zoning map Amendment from RS3 to, uh, 3.5 the
current use of the property is a, uh, 2 unit building. The
proposal is to, uh, bring the existing 2 unit building into
compliance, subdivide the lot and construct, a 2 Story,
single family, residence, with a 2-car garage on the
resulting lot. We have worked closely with the Alderman's
office and the Mayfair civic association. Um, there is we
do have a letter of support from both the Mayfair civic,
association and Alderman nent. We request your favorable
consideration. Yeah, we have a letter from Alderman.
Nugent. If there's no further questions about the committee
members, do I have a motion to pass by by by Vice chair.
Larson moved,
To pass all in favor. Say, I
All oppose and the opinion of the chair is the eyes have
it? Uh the item is passed. Now we move on to number 22.
Thank you counselor. Thank you. I'm on the second. Yeah now
we move on to number 2258545. Ward ordinance referred 1092
10924, common address, 4416 North Milwaukee, Avenue, change
request.
B11 neighborhood, shopping district 2, C11 neighborhood
commercial District. Uh, counselor, you can proceed.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, again, Colleen Dougherty of kolpek
Law Group here on the applicant and owner Jerry belpedio.
Um, we are asking for b11 from, from 2 c 1, 1 from b11. The
current use is a bar and a restaurant. Um, the request is
to accommodate an extension of the existing liquor license
to the patio area to add 5 tables in, which is patrons,
May, uh, be served beverages on the patio. Um, again, we
have worked with the Alderman's office on this proposal. We
have submitted a letter of support from Alderman Gardner.
Fantastic. Uh, any questions about the body? If no further
questions by committee members, do I hear a motion to pass?
Alderman Moore moved to pass. All in favor. Signify by
saying, I all oppose
Um, any opinion of the chair, the eyes have it. The item is
passed. Thank you very much.
Last item number 22364.
6, Ward ordinance. Referred to 1524 exchange at common
address 79366, RT 3.
A multi-unit District. We got a okay from Alderman yansi. A
proceed counselor.
Good afternoon, uh, chairman and committee. My name is
Denise Brewer from the law office of the briard group. I
represent the owner of William D, Payne. This is an
application for zoning Amendment. This is currently a, um,
2 dwelling unit in which we seek to convert to a 3 dwelling
unit by adding a uh uh the basement level. We're seeking
seeking from an RS3 to an RT. 3.5 we have uh,
Mr.
Payne has secured the funding. He has secured the
architectural plans and has uh, have
In place the construction to complete the project, we're
just seeking the approval. We have received the letter from
the ottoman in support of it, and I hope to this, uh,
chairman that's also, we, there are no exterior amendments
to this, uh, project. Yeah, so, as I said Alderman, yes, he
said he was on, okay with it. Uh, is there any, uh,
questions by the committee?
364, this is 22. Yes.
That's Alderman Hall.
okay, I I was
yes, call is. Okay with it, okay? Yes, we have a question.
You know, I'm always very cautious. Uh, when we're
converting these 2 flats into 3 Flats, especially the
conversion of a a basement unit does the basement unit,
have Ingress and egress.
Yes, it does. As I indicated that the, uh, Mr. Pain, who's
the owner, uh, had submitted has submitted to the city? Uh,
do you speak to the mic now? Sorry. The
Mr. Payne has submitted the um, architectural plans that
were approved and we received the permit. We simply waiting
for the approval to go forward with the project, okay? And
I mean, that didn't answer my question. I said, do, do they
have both Ingress and egress? Not just because most of
these basement dwelling units, only have 1-way in and 1 way
out. Yes. There is ingress and egress, uh, and it's part of
the our architectural plans that have been approved, okay?
Thank you, so move. All right. So, uh, there's no further
questions about the committee members. Uh, Alderman V,
moved and pass all in favor. Say I
All opposed and opinion of the charity ice. Have it uh
Alderman, Bill moved that we adjourn all in favor signify
by
The 32nd Ward item back up because I think, I think
Alderman Bennett was looking to withdraw his motion to
defer. I thought you made the motion know that was
Alderman. Uh, that was Bennett.
Made the motion to defer.
Well, if it was me, I withdraw my motion to defer if we can
vote on that.
If it was me, I didn't think it was me.
Okay, well I withdraw my motion to defer if we. So what do
we do when the when the uh applicant is not here
um,
The applicant has already testified.
All right, they don't need to still be here. They testified
already.
Meeting will come back to order.
What's the pleasure alderman?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, I would like to move uh, to
reconsider the deferral.
sorry on, uh,
Page, 15 bottom of page. 15 document number 22225 um that
the committee uh, reconsidered deferring the item,
Okay. Uh, all in favor signify by saying I I
So, the eyes have it. The the item is is, uh, re-referred
committee. So, um, we're gonna bring it up so we're
Want to know what the pleasure of the committee on that
item, which is what is it? Nicole,
This is it? Yep, right here. So
on item. Uh, n item 222225 302 War ordinance, referred 719.
71923.
Uh and Alderman, wager specs, War, 1840. D, 1866 North
Marcy, Avenue change request, M23 Light Industry District
to a b33 and then to a residential plan development which
is the, the counselor is not here, the developer is not
here, um, which is this is to allow 16-story building with
294 units. Uh, and and the cheapest staff is not here
anymore and what I understand
there's been conversation by the, uh,
with the alderman, in the client, in reference to
affordable housing in reference to traffic.
Uh you can come up Council if you want to testifies back up
again.
Um,
and uh, the alderman sent a letter by his chief of staff,
which
Which said a couple said, 2 things. So
Sorry, a subsequent letter was sent over or sorry.
No, no same letter. So we it's been they they withdrew to
deferral.
Um, so Nas back up.
Go ahead alderman.
I just want to reclaim something and I asked this earlier
on about the 24th, uh, 20% affordable housing around the
same and bass. What? I I heard from you and your partner is
says that, yes, that the 20% affordable housing were there,
how many units, a 60%, um, income rate,
but what I'm understanding now is you're the plan is only to
do affordable housing, if you get the tax break,
Is that correct? So if you don't get the tax break, you
won't do it. Affordable housing. So not not necessarily. So
the the Aro plays regardless that's kind of separate from
affordable. Illinois, which is the the tax incentive
program. Um, what we're saying and the PD statements
reflected, this was that
um, the 20% on site does require a to get that ordinance
approved, which like I said, is unique in that we're not
downtown but this Council or Council has approved 2 other
sites, right around the corner. And we are confident that
Lincoln Park qualifies as a community area that has low
levels of affordable housing. Um, according to City
Records, there's less than 13%, um, of housing. Stock is
Affordable in this community area. But yes, we do need
that, uh, notwithstanding that though. It's not that, we
don't pay any taxes during the, uh, period of the incentive
right now. We already are paying, I believe over the 30
years, uh, period. It's about 40 million dollars in new
property taxes and we would continue to pay right now with
the base year is and then as that tapers off, the taxes
would go would increase. But yes, similar to every project
that I'm aware of that has proceeded with 20% on site since
affordable Illinois. Well, any period? But since affordable
illness
I was passed all of them have taken advantage of that um of
that program and we would intend to do so here.
So every building I mean, I mean, are we going to do this
for every building? That's built that get affordable
housing. I mean the whole idea about this is to encourage
these large developments to do affordable housing, but I
think that there is either a miscommunication or whatever
it may be of the stand of the developer saying, you know, I
understand the 20% that is far far away we do, but
I I, you know, I don't feel comfortable, supporting a
project that 1. My colleague is not in full support of it
and having conversations with him having concerns and how
the process has been happening and not being really a clear
path of what's going on, um, I would like to be marked as a
no for this project. Okay, that's understandable, but
please don't don't mess with this portable housing thing
because we don't want to set a president because we got
other developers with the same gentleman, all of them are
applying for that Illinois. Thing, you know,
And I think that, you know, if we need more time to work
through to your point um if you're hesitant to vote. Uh,
yes. Today we would be open to the deferral. We actually
left thinking that was the outcome of today and I ran back
over here, but we would rather be deferred so we can
continue. And, uh, like zoning administrator Murphy said,
earlier that process was put in place to allow for
additional Community engagement. Um, it would require at
least 1 community meeting in the ward, um so we would be
open to that. Um, like I said that was kind of what we
thought when I walked out of here. The first time, uh, was
the outcome of today's meeting. So if um, I think we would
request a deferral, uh, or the deferral stand,
Pardon me. I think we would request the deferral that was
um approved earlier stand rather than if um requested a
referral know, the ultimate request, right? Yeah.
But then it was called back up. And so I think we would
rather have it be deferred than voted. No, no, no. You were
asking for a deferral. Yes.
Was the Law Department.
Okay, so
Uh, the applicant can ask the aldermen have to make a
motion after the applicant, as I make a motion, anybody
want to vote for it? Vote for it, if anybody want to vote
against the deferral vote against the deferral. Uh, who's
in favor of this item being deferred, say, I
Okay. I told you I was gonna be a bunch of games. Okay? Uh,
counselor.
the table say, I
All oppose, they named know those 33.
Roll call. It's only 6 of us.
Okay.
so, you
Let me do a roll call. Roll call.
Harris.
so the, the now we got now we got 7
so, the motion was
Delay.
The deferral.
on the table, was it or
Late a motion to defer on the table.
The later motion to defer on the table.
Um,
so,
Alderman. Harris know.
Alderman, bill.
Alderman Moore.
Alderman fours.
Alderman.
Alderman Cruise.
Uh, Alder vice mayor Larson.
I'm sorry, Vice chair.
Vice chair, Larson.
I may get this to him at the after this meeting.
but s*** you say what'd you say?
Yes, to lay it on the table.
11.
So Council. Can you can you repeat everything?
So this is what's going on. So you came in, you came in
all right, so so
The applicant asked if it could be deferred, I made a
motion for it to be the first. It was 33 on the deferral.
Um,
uh, Alderman, Bill asked to lay that on the table, right?
Delay. The deferral on the table to not have it deferred,
right? Um,
so that's where we are. So is a yes?
To lay the deferral on the table is a no.
To not lay the deferral on the table.
So, you want to lay the emotion on the table later deferral
on the table.
So, that's 43. So it's laid on the table. So what does that
mean? Now is the the
Move not bad.
So there's a motion to move do not pass.
Um, let me say this guys.
Um,
I think.
Personally, I think ultimate Wagers back and Sterling Bay
which is 1 of the larger developers in the in this city.
Uh, have some more talking to do.
Uh, it his message was mixed. He said, his message was
mixed. I read the letter, he said what he said in planning,
then he said they worked out the stuff on affordable
housing and they worked out on the traffic stuff. But he
still standing on what he said in planning, but he liked
for, he liked to acquiesced to his colleagues to make the
decision. That was a mixed message to me. So I think, you
know, if you kill this thing with 1 of the larger
developers in the city, how do we affect the city of
Chicago?
You know what I'm saying? Do we allow for this Alderman in
them to try to work it out? Or do we just kill this deal?
That, that that's that. That's what I mean. If the
alderman, why if the alderman wanted to be killed why? He
just didn't say no, I'm not afraid, right? He's saying. No,
he's not for
All right, send that to me. Uh,
he didn't send a letter saying he was opposed to
it. No, they got all of the affordable housing that he
asked for. They gave him all the affordable housing that he
wanted.
No, it's not only if they get the tax break. But everybody,
everybody that's developing these high-rise. Buildings is
getting a tax break.
You know, everybody's doing that that you can't blame them
for taking a tax break.
So, my understanding is, um, the the applicant said that
20% on site would only be possible with the affordable,
Illinois, tax break.
Not that they weren't doing 20% affordable, but it would
only be on site. If, if the, the tax relief was there they
have to do 20% affordable in mix of on-site and off-site or
buyout by by code. But um, it's that on-site piece um which
requires the the tax assistance. So do you all have any
planned development that you are going to do 20% on site.
In the plan development provides for 20% on site. If we get
the low affordability Community ordinance. That's if in
there the arrow would still apply though and there'd be a
minimum of 15% on site if we couldn't get that ordinance
approved.
So the ordinance for the 20% goes to us, it comes here,
correct or uh, housing. We had to vote on it, but we
haven't not voted on that for anyone. We vote on that for
everyone. Every development that comes down and the
important Market, you know, all these high-rise
developments. The only way they make their numbers is if
they if since the governor gave them these tax breaks,
that's why he gave it to them so that they could make their
numbers on the affordable housing and do more than 10% on
site through 20%, on site is an incentive to get the
developers to do the affordable housing.
And and all of these guys are in the same but we but our
ordinance, our ordinance give all of these developers a
option to do. On-site do off-site, pay in lieu of all of
those type of things. The the, the best way that I know in
my word that I've been able to get them all to do it on
site, is that I'm getting that incentive?
Yeah, we have a they have another problem, Mr. Chairman with
this ordinance is that I guess it's sunsets on the 25th of
this month.
And based on the recommendation that if we don't vote on
this and we allow the 25th Sunset motion to go through
that. It is, it does not pass. Anyway, that's number 1.
however, the commissioner of housing has the authority to
issue, I guess some type of statement, or whatever to
override that in order to get it passed. And then that's an
opportunity to basically override the will of the local
Alderman if they so choose.
So that is your problem. So if you defer it, we take the
risk of it. Not passing based on the deadlines and the
commissioner of housing.
Petitioning to override in order to get it passed and
override the local Alderman, okay? Uh, Patrick Thompson
Sure uh Patrick Murphy Department of planning correct. If
the commissioner of the Department of Housing issues, a
letter to the committee on zoning chairman and the zoning
administrator's office that this project qualifies as being
declared an inclusionary application, it allows for a
4-month extension in, uh, a community process possibilities
for the applicant to proceed with a community meeting. It
does not require
Hearing before the Planning Commission, and then they have
up to 60 days to petition.
Your committee to reconsider the item. If you choose, not
to, then it is passed out at your subsequent Committee
hearing in this case, it would probably be June of 2025
with a due pass recommendation. Even if even if your
committee takes no action,
but it would just to clarify, it wouldn't bypass the
committee automatically. It would be just after we go
through the additional 4 months of community process,
including a community meeting. We would then uh,
Issue a letter to the committee asking to be called and the
committee would have 60 days thereafter to call it. So, 2
months to call it after that additional 4 months of
community process,
so my thought is that between that 4 months of that, 6
months hopefully Alderman Wagers back in this this
developer can come up with some kind of decision um in
reference to this.
I mean, you know, ultimate Wagers back at them by the tail
because they got the whole Lincoln yards in his Ward. They
got the whole Lincoln yards to do, y'all have to go to the
ultimate for the whole Lincoln yards. So if you don't do
what he wants you to do, he can just stop you from doing
the rest of your stuff.
I mean you laughing but that's the truth and I disagree.
All right. Whatever y'all want to do, I mean,
So, where do we voting on now? Where we at now?
So so that. So, so we withdrew to deferral.
You you she asked for a deferral.
He asked to lay it on the table is is laid on the table. So
So, now there's a motion to see if people want to vote for
this or not, right? So, uh, all in favor of voting for this
say, I
No.
I'm not pass.
Or you have a motion. Do not pass right? Okay. That's the
same thing though, isn't it?
It's the opposite.
Okay. All in favor of a do not pass vote. I all in in favor
of passing vote. Yay.
Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
All in favor of a do not pass, all right.
I apologize.
No.
All right, the eyes have it is not pass.
Uh, make a ultimate fantus, make a motion that we, uh,
adjourn all in favor, say, I
Oppose meetings, adjourned.
Thank you. I knew I knew it was
Anthony Bill stayed here, I knew it, I knew it he he stayed
at the meeting. It was gonna be something.