Good afternoon, the committee on ethics and government oversight. Will now come to order. We have uh 2 pieces of uh of agenda items. Uh, before we get into the specifics for them, we will begin with a roll. Call to establish Quorum. Please note that your yes or present response will be deemed a. Yes, vote. When this Quorum call is used for reference vote, for later, items. Chairman Martin is present. Vice chair Haden alderwoman Lee, Alderman. OSHA alderwoman Taylor alderwoman, tabaris alderwoman Scott. Alderman Talya Ferro. Alderman waguespack. Alderman pisado. Alderwoman nent Alderman Vasquez, Alderman. Reilly Alderman Lawson. We have 10 members present. We have a quorum alderwoman alderwoman Taylor and Haden have requested remote participation in the committee meeting under rule 59 is their motion to allow them to do so. Alderman Vasquez, so moves all those in favor signify by saying, I all those opposed say, no. The eyes have it, uh, these 2. Alder, women are allowed to attend the committee meeting remotely, we will now go to public, comment a period set for 30 minutes, out of respect, for everyone's Time. Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes. We have, uh, 5 to 6, People signed up for public comment. The first uh, is James McCoy. James, you can go ahead at your convenience. Okay, I can be heard. Okay, I like to see. This is a meeting of ethics. I would say first off. The way Chicago has always treated black people ever since the Great Migration with black people came over here. Working in fact It's not yeah. Okay hello. Okay. Okay all right, it's fine. Fine can I get? Yeah. If if we can give him his full 3 minutes please. Thank you. Go ahead. The way, the city of Chicago has always treated the black community, even coming here. From The Great, Migration has always been as second-class Citizens, third class citizens, less than human. We've worked to develop the economy of this country. This entire country, we've worked to develop the economy of this state. We've worked to develop the economy of this city and we've been neglected, we've been segregated, Chicago, is 1 of, if not, the really, the most segregated cities in the United States of America, and we keep having City officials. We keep having Mayors, we keep having Governors saying that they're going to come and mitigate the problem they're going to come with some Type of resolution. And they don't do that year. After year, Chicago continues to be the number 1, most segregated city with the black sides, all of the black neighborhoods being the most deprived, there are no poor white neighborhoods in Chicago. There are tons of poor black neighborhoods, almost all of the black neighborhoods where black people are predominantly, are poor. Even though we pay the same taxes, we pay the same government. We follow the same rules, we work the same jobs yet our neighborhoods, get neglected when the schools got shut down, the government said that they were going to bring them all back. The government said they had to shut them down for whatever reason, they said they were going to bring them all back and they did try to when they tried to turn the school into a shelter for illegal immigrants. What is the definition of a criminal? A criminal with somebody who commits crimes? There's a legal process in immigrating to this country. There's a legal process to be in an asylum Seeker, they're skipping all of that. If you skip the legal process, you are committing a crime that makes you a criminal. We should not change the definitions of these things, and the government is subsidizing it. The government is allowing it to happen in spite of the people's requests. The government is supposed to be here to serve the people. The people are requesting that they stop it. They're ignoring the people's requests. These people are coming here. They're committing crimes. This is well documented, their, uh, committing fires. They're selling drugs is prostitution, running rampant diseases. We don't know what these people have, you're not making them get any type of background check whatsoever. I went and I interviewed them and I asked them and they said we're not getting any type of background check whatsoever. We just get put on a bus and we get shipped over here. And when we come here with these complaints, we're told that we need to have some sympathy for them. While the brunt of all of the negativity of this illegal immigration, this immoral unethical illegal immigration is faced on us and we're supposed to be squatting. We're supposed to be the stepping stool. For a buffer class of people to come here and replace the black community in Chicago, and we're not going to allow that anymore. Even if the government, even if the wants us to, we're not going to allow that anymore. Thank you Mr. McCoy? Next up we have Jessica Jackson, Miss Jackson. If you can come up. Please begin at your convenience. Um, so the topic is ethics. Um, well, what we do know is that ethics are not followed with city council, we know that, We know that. You all pretty much do, whatever it is that you want to do. We just left out of a spot fire meeting where they were trying to decide whether or not they should keep that tool. And it sounds as if. It's about the money. Which makes absolutely no sense when the same city is pouring money for illegal immigrants. But for the citizens that need the protection, the city is contemplating removing something else, taking something else. Another resource from the citizens and giving it To non citizens I can guarantee you, whatever money. They're going to take to stop Spotify is going to go over to the party of illegal immigrants. I've never seen anything like this before. Alderman Bill started last year talking about how much money money was being spent with illegal immigration. I specifically remember him saying, if my money, if this much money was spent on my ward every month, how would it look? How would my ward look? I just don't understand it. You sent put in complaints. About the things that's going on with the government in Chicago. Nothing happens. It goes ignored. And when you do catch these people, all of the sudden it's crickets. You can't get the people of Chicago in authority to follow the law. You can't get them do it from the judges. To the inspector generals. To the ultimate to the mayor. Where are the rules? What ethics I've come to you over and over again. You you you a civil rights. Attorney you give me that. Look that you giving me now like you been. Oh, so really attentive but then you don't do no follow-up. I've never seen nothing like it before in my life and to have a at this committee when everybody almost in here is completely unethical. It doesn't make any sense. You all don't want better. And to have fast Quest and lowest set your Lopez to say. Oh, they don't know about spots fire because they, the mayor's, man, they got to do whatever the mayor says, do. Because the mayor Gonna Keep on giving them immigrants that money. They bet not disagree with him. Or they ain't gonna get that money. We could be blooded out in the street. They gonna keep on talking about these immigrants. Thank you, Mr. Jackson. Next up, we have George. Blakemore, Mr. Blakemore, if you can come up, please And begin at your convenience. Thank you. Ethics the inspector Joe? What is ethical? What what's not it? You know what? Motivates me, I was just getting off trained or can and hand to that, man. That go down the city hall and give him hell. Keep up the good work. That's where I get my inspiration from. The people my my from some of you. So the big picture is the Immigrant illegal immigrants. So we black people, we have to look in the mirror at ourselves. We have to check ourselves and you know something the government hate us. and some of us hate us, also, So we are our own problem. You're dependent on a government that enslaved, you captured, you and enslaved, you and brought you over here, not as an immigrant, not as a refugee to help you. They hate us. Can't you? Just, and it's okay. We have to love each other through for each other. God has given us everything we need. All we have to do is use what God has given us and if you don't use what you got to get what you want, you know what you got. You don't need it. so all of we are capable of being a great people, we have survived the Holocaust of slavery and we can still do it. All we have to do is look in the mirror. Go we're God's children. We are little Gods. We got to recognize God created us first. we great, we have to reprogram ourselves because on the plantation know, all we have to do is Purge. Ourself of negatives and become become strong, black men, and women. And I'm gonna preach. Use this very quickly. You must use what? You got to get what you want. And if you don't use what you got to get what you want, you don't need what you got. Gotta give you everything you need. So we have to look in the mirror at ourself and we have become our own enemy. Enemy of these white folks got their agenda, whereas our agenda we got to teach them how to treat us if they don't know by now we got to teach them how we got to stand up and and defy Their racism. That's good. Every race like this on. God Bless the Child of God is on and self preservation is the first law of nation black. People become selfish f****** on you. The you everything you need, all you have to do is use what God gives. Thank you, Mr. Blakemore, I want to recognize Alderman, Reilly for purposes of Quorum. Next up, we have Tuan Sims, Mr. Sims, if you can come up and begin at your convenience, Short check. Me we are on enemy blood than that can have your big nose and your black booty hole. Um, I wrote something down but let's just go off the top. So is it at the Cuda tree? Um, black Americans here in the city, the way we being treated. On all the levels that count also. So we got the work force, that's David. Who else we got? We got housing that CIO Lopez also education. That's another department to discuss. But we we greatly oh Mr. Lawson back there with the humanities that's public. Not what? He's got. Public zoning and Public Safety. What is or 1 of them? But still it's like, wow. The most unethical, I think this is 1 of the most unethical groups of people. Able to just exercise whatever will they want on the people? Because we elected them in, we elected them. And so now they get to beat us, they get the abuse us they get to treat us any way they want. Um, I brought up Maria Haden still haven't had Miss Deborah. Weissberg investigate her. 1 of the most unethical, all the people in this um City. She building her Gabriel Hood, she she using um, East Rogers and she going to build out a gayborhood She gonna do whatever she want. she gonna treat people like however, she pleased, but nobody gets to investigate that, but they going to investigate the father They going to investigate the the individual been shot up in the neighborhood. A neighborhood been from 30 years. Now I just get to do me because I'm all the woman or whatever. I don't. Wow um the work force development with David. Yesterday, I had the unpleasant. I, I got them. I had to unpleasant. Um, Moment just to to to meet a person from, I don't know, he worked in the city. He said, I swore in a thousand illegal immigrants yesterday. And on Monday, they all had jobs. I was like, Wow, with such Glee who else out of that thousand individuals who Shouldn't be employed, or I'm not saying that people shouldn't get, um, seek happiness, because black Americans been seeking happiness. Equity and all these different things consideration and all these different things. So out of that thousand people who didn't get the doubt, who didn't get the jobs and how did they get jobs? So quick, how was it that the Migrant family. Got in 2 years. Able to have a home ownership a home. Home ownership in Austin, I wonder how many also people that's lived in Austin, All This Time. Have not Got home ownership. All these areas. But the unethical treatment that black people receive in this city will continue to go unacknowledged. We, the invisible people until we tell the city up until we burn it all the way down. We going to remain invisible. Thank you Mr. Sims. Next up we we have 2 final people. 1 person did not include their name but in terms of representing it says myself and Black America. I believe is that person in the room? That's right. Yeah. Okay, Zoe Lee. um, Yeah, this is government oversight and ethics. So, My mother has taught me ever since I was a child to always go to the top. If any of you didn't like something, something to make any sense, always go to the top and I've always went to the top but only in like when it comes to private corporations and stuff, you know, get to the CEO, bang, get what you need. But fighting the government. this is this difficult and it's a challenge that I know I finally beat I started. With going to Merrick garland, that was the Inspector General Federal level, then Christian Clark, civil rights, Federal level then, Michael Horowitz, that's justice department, justice department, then then then Michael Horowitz, right? That's the general inspector on the federal level, then Susan Halen, then, Deborah witzburg. Then Attorney General kwami rahu. Right. I went, I did. I went through everyone. Then my Alderman, then the mayor free Mayors Ron manual. Um um uh, Lori Lightfoot, and then Brandon Johnson. So I did all the steps right for a year to it took me a year to figure this out because at the end of the day is the city, the city of Chicago And the state of Illinois is still in black people's property. and they've been stealing black people's property and recycling it By putting affordable housing in government-run, how? And, uh, stores on there, like they're trying to do with 1 of, um, with 1 to Save A Lot on, on my lot. Now that I already reached out to the yellow banana and Save A Lot, they already know, it's, it's a rat, but the fact that I had to go through all those chains, And this is the Democratic. This is a Democratic party that the city that my mother has been voting. My mother 75 years old, my mother been voting Democrat, since she was 18 years old and the fact that she had to go through Not being heard having to go to the hospital, having me having to get involved, then having to go to New York to go. Get some type of media because the aldermans were scared to be behind us me and Miss Jessica to discuss that how they're still in black people's property. Black people have to go through 15 Steps, when a white person or a non-black person has to go through. No steps. always have to have all the paperwork to show the injustices when a white person can just come in and get whatever they want. It's 2024 you think he won't continue to do deal with that. I technically own the city of Chicago and I know I do. Because y'all in a billion dollar deficit already, my mother's lawsuit is 3 billion dollars and we're not settling. Because this is what y'all do. So now, you have 4 billion dollars that y'all owe. and the and the main people that be stealing not even here, Walter Bernette Michelle Harris all the old Chicago. They ain't even here because they trying to figure out how they gonna get out this s***. Thank you, Miss Lee. Our last public speaker is TJ Hughes Miss Hughes, if you can come up and begin at your convenience. Thank you. Um, good afternoon, my name is uh Teresa TJ Hughes. I'm here in regards to this ethics. And I'm still questioning also what exactly? Is ethics when it comes to the city of Chicago. Now, I have worked in the city for over 30, something years. And I have seen a lot of stuff My concern as a citizen in the city of Chicago right now is the fact that we finally got rid of Eileen valezquez from the procurement Department. Because she was just horrible. And now, and I feel, instead of giving the young, ladies, the young lady, I think I forget her name but she was the acting um, procurement Chief procurement officer, the opportunity and the chance to see if she can really handle it because she's been there for all these years you're bringing in a new person and it's not nothing personal against this person because I happen to know her Pretty well. And uh, so it's not personal. I just feel that that she is not qualified enough to become the CCF, whatever, CP CPO Whatever um responsible for billions of dollars of revenue for contracts, when she can't take care of her, our own personal stuff and she owed a city 10 almost ten thousand dollars. I couldn't owe the city, a hundred dollars when I started in 1988. 5 under mayor Washington because I had some parking tickets. I had to pay those parking tickets off before I could get in. So I'm trying to figure out how you allow someone to owe thousands of dollars and give her an opportunity to have the time to rectify it because of John Robinson, wanting her to be named. That's his girl. Uh when I feel like he's got his own issues too, and these people are supposed to be helping the mayor, or having been in the mayor's corner. I don't feel like they're in the mayor's Corner when they do this kind of stupid stuff because People in Chicago, little people, the people that vote for all of you. And expect you to do your jobs, you're not doing your due diligence. Why would you even allow her to even be on a list? To come before you and you're all going to vote for her. I've already heard about that. So the deals that are being cut things that are being made to happen, Is not ethical, so you're the Ethics Committee. How is ethical for 1 person to owe 100 dollars, can't get in but somebody that can owe $10,000 can just walks on in. That's not right. So I'm very upset. I am a citizen and like I said, it's nothing personal. It's just the facts. That concludes public comment we will now turn to the 2 items on today's agenda. First subject matter hearing on the office of Inspector General's, audit of the department of finance's workers compensation program and second subject matter hearing on the uh same office as quarterly report for the second quarter of 2024. Before we do turn to those, um, I do want to note that uh, there is a rule 45 report from July 2024, which has been sent out to the committee. Can I get a motion to approve that report? Alderman, Reilly so moves. All those in favor, signify, by saying, I all those opposed say no in the opinion of the chair, the ice habit. Now we will begin the subject matter hearing on the Workers Compensation Program like to introduce, uh, Inspector General. Deborah witzburg to provide a brief summary of that report and if you can identify yourself for the record before doing, so thank you. Good afternoon. Thank you for having me. I'm Inspector General. Deborah witzburg. Um, I just need a little bit of help getting the slides started. Sorry, no, thank you. Apologies for the delay. Uh, okay, everyone can see this. Yes. All right. Um, thank you again. Thank you for having me to to talk a bit about this report. Um, we published in audit of the Department of Finance as administration of the civilian Workers Compensation Program. I know you all have the report, um, and and we have the benefit of having the cummer here, who will be better positioned than I to answer some technical questions about the program itself. But but I'll, I'll I'll give sort of a high level summary of of our audit. Um, with a little bit of History to begin in terms. Of context. I know many of you know this history uh quite well but the city council's own committee on finance administered. The Workers Compensation Program for decades until 2019. Um, when the committee on finance was was chaired by Alderman, Ed Burke. That was an unusual Arrangement. Uh, it was unusual to have a program of the scale of of workers compensation administered by a legislative committee rather than by an executive department. Um, when Alderman, Burke resigned as chair of that committee shortly. Thereafter days thereafter, the city transferred responsibility for the work workers comp program from the committee on finance to the Department of Finance, uh, in the executive branch of city government by Amendment to the municipal code. Um, notably be, there were many effects of the programs Administration by the committee on finance 1 of them, was that that rendered the Workers Compensation Program, almost entirely invisible from oversight and from public transparency oig did not until 2019 have legislative authority to audit the operations of city council. And so for the entire lifetime of the Department of Finance administration of this program, um there was no was no meaningful opportunity for oversight so Authority for this program. As I say, was transferred to the Department of Finance in 2019. Um, and within days, after that transfer of authority, the city hired Grant Thorton. Um, In audit firm to as you see here to assist with a review of the program to identify potential patterns of of fraud, waste and abuse. Grant Thorton formed that review and issued a report in 2019. Um, That report found. We'll talk a little bit more about this. What Grant Thorton described as serious flaws in the program. Specifically Grant Thorton found that the the workers compensation program was in need of substantial Improvement to operate more effectively as well as to prevent and detect potential. Fraud, waste and abuse. In that report Grant Thorton made a series of recommendations across 10 categories of operation. Um, to improve administration of the program and I will say here, you all have I, I've been before you all before talking about follow-up reports that we have done on our own recommendations, where we go back. And look at, whether a city department, is made corrective actions in response to recommendations. What we did here was a little bit like that format of a project, except that the recommendations that issue were not ones that we had made, but rather these ones that Grant Thorton had made. So in the big picture, the spirit of, of our audit was to look at whether the Department of Finance had adopted corrective actions and response to the recommendations that Grant Thorton made. um, After the review and recommendations by Grant Thorton, the city hired, Gallagher, Bassett, as a claim services provider uh to administer. The the city's program, the original contract began August 1st of 2019 ran through July 31st of 2020 that contract as of our writing had been extended to the end of this year. I mentioned this in part 1 by way of history, but 2 to say our kind of period of review here in this audit went through July, 31st of 2020, the end date of that first. Um, Gallagher Bassett contract And the objectives of our audit. Were to determine as I mentioned, whether doof had implemented corrective actions as recommended by Grant Thorton. And whether diouf was publishing, the annual report on activities of the program as required by the municipal code. And I will say, we'll talk a little bit about this but the issue of the annual report on the what information is publicly available about the workers comp program is, I think important to understand in the historical context of the program that when we have a when we have a program which for many decades operated very much in a windowless room. Um, we are not starting from equipoise, we are not starting from neutral in terms of public trust and transparency. And I think that's an important lens through which to, to view the transparency. Um, requirements and progress of the program. I also want to highlight here as we think about objectives of the project that there's a great deal at stake here. Um, Both in terms of of the medical needs of city employees who are injured at work and also in as measured by taxpayer dollars. Um, the Workers Compensation Program as it stands has over 2,000 open claims or I should say, as of this writing had had over 2,000, open claims which had expected costs over their lifetime of more than half a billion dollars. Um, in 2022 alone, the city paid out 73.5 million in claims. This is a very, very big dollar question. All of these questions I should say, are big dollar ones. Um, and that's important when we think about the impact of improvements, both improvements made and improvements still on the table. Uh the scope um the scope of the audit. So the subject was the workers comp program for non-federally funded civilian employees. So to be clear this does not include sworn personnel. Um, and it does not include Grant funded employees. Uh, dof does not evaluate claims for sworn police and fire Personnel, um, or for any federally funded civilian or Aviation employee programs. The time period, I mentioned began on May 10th of 2019 and ran through the end of July 2022. When when the first contract ended Um, we have 2 findings in this report. The first is here. The doof has substantially implemented Grant Thorton's recommended corrected, actions for the program. Um, that's the bottom line here. The bottom line here, is the tremendous progress has been made in administration of the workers comp program. There are further improvements to be made. We'll talk a bit more about that, um, but but I think it's important to say that this is from my perspective at bottom, a good news story. Now to say that we have improved dramatically from where we come has much to say about from where we've come. Um but important to say that there are substantial improvements that that the city has realized. Um in dof's administration we note that among the recommended improvements yet to be realized at the time of our report was the adoption of a formal peer jurisdiction, analytic program that is to say. Um there was a recommendation to learn lessons from other cities in their administration of programs. That is probably frankly a practice which the city would be well served by adopting across a wide range of operations. Um, And I think that is that is true here as well. Uh, in a, in a bit more detail. We looked at the implementation of these corrective actions. As I mentioned across a, number of different operational categories, we found that in the category of fraud risk doof, has implemented. The recommend the recommended actions, as well as in the category of data analytics. We look, we broke into a number of different um, categories claims Administration and found implemented recommendations in the area of benefit delivery substantially implemented 1's. Initial file review, medical review forms, and closure and partially implemented recommendations in file Administration. And, and with apologies for going into the weeds there, this is just to say that there is a great deal of progress in some of these areas and at least some progress in all of them. Our second finding having to do with this public transparency. Question about about sort of how much light we have been successful in bringing into what had been a windowless room in city government. We found that the Department of Finance is publishing, the annual reports that are required by the municipal code, but that there are improvements yet to be made, uh, in standardizing that report and ensuring that the required content is included in each of them. um so we make a series of specific recommendations here um for doofs continued efforts to implement, those remaining recommendations from Grant Thorton um including some some specific suggestions about clarifying procedures in to ensure compliance. Um, we recommended that doof further, develop that peer jurisdiction Network that we discussed. um, along with a procedure for timelines and responsibilities for the annual report containing all the information required by the code, um, we published doof's written response, along with the audit, I won't speak for the controller, who's here to here to talk about dose response, uh, directly. But I will say, at a high level that from our perspective, dose response, indicated a commitment to implementing the those remaining corrective actions from the grant Thorton report, um, and to kind of continue its work in the service of transparency by way of that annual report, I will say again, I think the requirements are on the annual report read as though they are sort of clerical in nature. I think those are fundamentally important from a public trust and legitimacy perspective. You all have heard me talk a lot about the deficit of legitimacy at which the city of Chicago operates this sort of program where an enormous pile of public dollars was being run out of a windowless room. This is precisely. The sort of thing where mistrust and distrust in government accumulates and, and good, and clear, and reliable public, reporting is an important antidote to that sort of mistrust. So, um, here we have the apologies. This is a, a very word dense slide as I see it up there, but the the conclusion of the audit is is what we have talked about here. Um, that the the administration of the workers comp program by doof with use of this third party administrator represents a critical improvement over the administration of the program. Under the, the old model, the pre-2019 administration under the committee on finance, um, do have increased transparency of the program by publishing the annual report. And there are some improvements left to be made both in response to Grant, Thorton's recommended corrective actions, and in the thoroughness and um, and utility of the annual report. Um, with that, um, I'm I'm happy to either answer any questions or to, to turn the floor, over to the controller. Thank you General. Um, next we're going to hear from uh, controller Chase, Ray Winkle controller, if you can introduce yourself for the record. Hi everyone. Uh, Chase round call the city controller. Um, should I go ahead and then I So I wanted to start off by just acknowledging something. Um that we have is a little bit unusual. There's a staffer of mine who is going to be zooming in to to provide some testimony as well. Um I think in a lot of situations where we talk about audit findings especially 1, where we have a lot of positives uh it's easy for me to come in and and claim victory as we go forward in a very important program. I think it's important to hear from Daryl because I've been here for a year. and Daryl has been here the entire time working on these diligent items. Uh, focusing on trying to get us to a point where the city can feel comfortable in their programs. And oftentimes, I don't think that we have enough credit to the folks that are just on the ground. Trying to fix what was a pretty heavy mountain to climb, uh, when this started 5 years ago, so I'm just going to give a brief statement and then turn it to Daryl. Um, good afternoon, chair, Martin, distinguished members of the Ethics Committee. Thank you for allowing me to testify before you on the progress of the Department of Finance has made to reforming the city of Chicago's Workers Compensation Program. Years ago, an independent audit of the Workers Compensation Program conducted by Grant Thorton. Found significant deaf deficiencies in the program causing millions of dollars in additional cost to the city. Prior to 2019 the workers compensation program was administered by the city. Uh Council committee on finance, an unusual responsibility for a legislative committee to oversee an executive program since the transfer of the program to the Department of Finance, give a deal of has worked diligently to evaluate the grant Thorton recommendations and Implement them in a responsible manner to benefit both the city and city workers the program. Serves the goal has remained the same since the transfer to ensure the modernization of the Workers Compensation Program. An elevated to a high standard of ethical scrutiny, 5 years on. I am pleased to report that the oag has found. Significant progress has been made by the deal by doof on the Workers Compensation Program. The oag report lists a number of Incorporated improvements to the program that has increased oversight and created a strong third-party process to ethically, review workers, compensation at the city. The program administrator Gerald matthysse will go over in more specific specificity the areas of improvement the program has made in the last 5 years as well as the areas of improvement we look to make in the immediate future but suffice to say the transfer of the Department of Finance 5 years ago, was a positive 1 to restore a more ethically sound Foundation to the programs and administration in total, the city has saved 31.7 million dollars since 2020. Due to these programmatic improvements, while I am pleased with our progress thus far, we know that further improvements are necessary in the coming years to ensure the strong. Strongest possible Pro program. Going forward. I welcome the recommendations made by the oig and can report that we have been working diligently on further. Implementations of those suggestions. I appreciate your time and questions and we'll now turn it over to Daryl. Matthysse for his review. Thank you Comer. Uh, uh director. Matthysse, if you can introduce yourself briefly for the record before proceeding with your testimony. Thank you. Uh, I am Daryl. Matthysse director of workers compensation in the Department of Finance. And please proceed at your convenience, okay? Good afternoon, chairman Martin and members of the committee of ethics and government oversight. as our controller, shared My name is Daryl matthysse and I am the director of Workers Compensation Program in the Department of Finance. Uh for the purpose of not being redundant uh relative to the history of the program. I'd like to go into a little bit of our uh, Execution of strategy and programs uh, to improve the worker's compensation risk management. To execute it administration of the Workers Compensation Program. The controller has entered into an agreement with Gallagher Bassett services, the third party administrator that provides fiduciary and administrative, uh, services on a contractual basis and identified, a designate to oversee and manage the program. I am that a designate. These responsibilities include claim Administration risk management information systems and risk management. The city through the Department of Finance, has had a TPA contract with Gallagher Bassett since 2019 under Department Department of Finance, oversight, the city relies on to provide recommendations and administration relative to claim valuation. Reserve placement data capture and retrieval metric for metric consideration. Medical management Rehabilitation Cost Containment um litigation management, legal uh, control medical bill payments, statutory benefit payment segregation and third-party recovery management and claim investigation. Diouf was challenged with transitioning from a city administrator program to a third-party administrator program to address areas of opportunity identified in the grant Thorton report and assessing, the city's claim exposures to be able to Create an accurate valuation for booking future expenses. Finally another challenge was building a new industry experienced City team. The original team assembled by the committee on finance largely life members with the necessary industry experience. Many individuals on the team, did not have claims leadership, expertise required to effectively guide and manage the responsibilities. Entrusted them Was made significant progress. Toward the goal of, becoming the gold standard for a large municipality and workers compensation Administration. Some improvements include investigation evaluation, resolution of claims opening, new claims within 3 days of accident, determining claim Acceptance in less than 14 days, most within 5 and refresh. Uh, referrals to the oig office of Inspector General for suspected fraudulent claims. Following several years of remediation efforts, we were compelled to reopen aged litigated files and increased settlement opportunities. These actions have led to significant improvements in key metrics. Including Uh, 89% reduction in reopen Legacy, claims from 371 files, and 2022 to 42 in 2023. Uh, 3 times more closures than gold established at the start of 2023 Department of Finance. Uh, 5% and 10% reductions in Los work days. And in claims from at 12 months and 24 months respectively, uh, 17% increase in settlement Authority, uh, activity. I'm sorry, uh, avoiding, uh, Awards and 13.2 million reduction in claim portfolio. Total incurred value. These outcomes have led to Savings of 9.7 million for the city of Chicago and 2023. When compared to 2018 claim outcomes, the total savings achieved cumulatively since 2020 is 31.7 million In 2023, uh, open inventory or a number of claims at years in Decline from 2,236 to 1,854 and is below 2,000 for the first time since 2020. Currently the open inventory for civilian claims is 1,735 the increase in open inventory from 2019. To 2023 was driven by the need to reopen claims that have been improperly closed by the committee on Finance. an extensive project was completed by D and its third party administrator Gallagher, Bassett to review thousands of closed, claims to, determine if the city's statutory obligations to Injured Workers, had been met allowing the claim to be properly closed. This resulted in higher volumes of reopen, claims experience between 20 20 and 2022. Calendar year 2023 marks, the first and full year of claims handling without that project underway. Over the past 5 years, significant progress has been made to improve and strengthen the city of Chicago's Workers Compensation Program, 2019 to 2020 and 2020. With critical years for establishing governance, controls and claim, handling best practices in 2021. The Department of Finance, expanded its strategy to drive, better outcomes and returning employees to work and resolving open claims in 2022. Accelerated settlements were priority, aligning with the Department of Financial strategy, to reduce the overall, backlog of age litigation in 2023 doof's, uh, Focus continue to be uh, On claim resolution via settlement. after several years of increasing Financial reserves to properly, measure the open liabilities against the city, 2023 was a turning point where Financial reserves were decreased for the very first time. Do will continue to build upon the achievements of the past 5 years and drive continuous Improvement. Thank you. Thank you, director matthysse, uh, we will now open the floor to questions from Members. Um, uh, Alderman waguespack, which you like to kick us off? Just check the sound. Is the sound working? Okay there. Yeah, okay. Uh, first of all, uh, chairman thanks for having this, uh, hearing. Um, and thanks to both of you for presenting today. Uh, first, I want to thank um, Daryl matthysse, because in working with him, uh, and our staff to get this out from under the committee on finance, several years ago. Um and then handing it off and watching. The first reports come in from Gallagher Bassett in. I think mid 2021, it was really Daryl and his team that professionalized along with the work of Gallagher Bassett um everything that we're seeing today. So a lot of that credit goes to Daryl for really digging in um, seeing what was happening prior to 2019. I know for years. Some of us were trying to get this out from under The uh committee on finance going back, probably 10 years before. And um so uh I just want to commend him for all the work that he put in. And as the finance chair, I was watching him and his staff, try to, um, essentially restructure their own internal processes, but also the staff because uh, what we saw years ago and I think the Inspector General uh along with the the former Inspector General were, uh, working with us to try to get more transparency other than having just the, the final audit that was available. But to really show what processes needed to change. So I think with your office is and also with, um, the work that Daryl did, um, you know, that's really where we we've seen the Savings in the first year. I think we only saw 2 million in savings. A little over 2 million and then what Daryl's telling us now is that the realized savings over 4 year period is if I'm not That mistaken, 30 million or 30 plus million dollars. Um, So he, he and his staff were really key to doing this, um, controller. Maybe, uh, if when would the next report be coming out or released on, um, updating the Council on the public on, uh, what Gallagher basket, uh, report would look like yeah. Um, and I'm glad that this was actually mentioned in the, um, investigation, because, although we've been re releasing it, it's been a different month. Depending on how it works. We're going to try to get into a schedule of we're between August and septembar. It'll likely be september going forward. Um usually that gets us past all of our AER period. Um so that's been kind of the goal going forward. Is that time period? Um and hopefully that standardizes from there and that that'll help you as you go into the budget. I was just going to say it helps us for the budget season but also for, I think the outside audits from Dey, um, are do they look at that as well or confer with you? Yeah, uh, as well as some of our other internal audits so yeah, right. And when they look at um I think at, you know, as they've looked at this and seen the improvements, what does that do for us long term in terms of their outlook on the city finances? So, and I think, um, think, um, this also is very clearly mentioned in the oig report, which I think is important, um, The closer we get uh Auditors, always loved boring. Uh the closer we can get to a standard boring process. The better it is to have confidence in that system that if part of it breaks down the system itself, will catch that problem. So you know, Some of the items uh, that were brought up, like standardizing on the report comes out. Making sure that we're having conversations with other cities on a regular regular. We we we had been doing those but we hadn't standardized that process. The importance of standardizing them though needs to be mentioned because of The Inspector General mentioned. We came from so far, back from a confidence standpoint to be able to make it very clear that the system. These are the controls in place, but then this is when you can expect information, Helps us whenever 1 of those pieces gets falls by the wayside. The rest of the system will notice. You were supposed to have their report out or what happened when you talk to ex City about this. Um, so I think we're moving toward a place of standardization in a way that the system kind of can go forward without having to have a lot of upkeep on the back end and it kind of has a self, um, self-fulfilling. prophecy of kind of like making sure that um when there are challenges that those are almost immediately foreseen Sorry, did you want to jump in on that too? No, no. I was just appreciating the self-fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, right, yeah. Um, well, I think that was, uh, when we were first trying to get that Gallagher Bassett report out, obviously we're in the midst of Co and it was a little difficult to turn that around, but it was pretty telling reading that first report that came out. Um, I actually thought that the savings were too low, you know? It was only 2 and a half 2.4 million in the first, uh, report. And I thought, are you sure? Maybe we should go back and take a look at that again. Um, but I think with Daryl's work over the years and, and with you both, uh, looking at it. Um, we'll can, you know, hopefully we'll get to a level where we've we've knocked out all the problems as you're saying, and we get to a solid process where we, we're still seeing savings. We're still seeing improvements. Um, and you know, and I think, you know, a lot of people at the beginning were thinking, wow, there's there's going to be a lot of fraud that's going to be opened up here and I think it was more, just the Mis missed opportunities and mismanagement than it was fraud. Not to say that there are there isn't or there wasn't in any kind of workers comp system. It happens. But um, I think For a lot of us, it was um you know what, what savings can be created for taxpayers and I think that's where opening the can up. Finding, you know, the worms in it and saying, hey let's let's clean this up, was really beneficial to taxpayers as well and as Daryl saying you know a thirty million dollar savings um you know we just hope to see that long term and and that gets built into budget savings as well that we're that we're not paying out on those um, and and also a better Workforce. So if, if employees know here's the structure that I have to abide by instead of a closed door structure that Could be going in any direction. Now, they know exactly what to expect through a more professional services that, uh, gets people back to work. It helps them. Get through the process and I think that does better by our entire Workforce as well. So I want to thank you both for that. And Daryl especially absolutely Darren. Thank you. Could I just offer a very quick observation just on the on the point of fraud. Um, we can we continue to receive referrals from Gallagher Bassett on on allegations of possible fraud within the program. We receive allegations like that from other sources as well. Um, and we investigate those as appropriate. I, I will say we find it to be true across city government. That misconduct is often co-located with a lack in controls. And as we improve controls in and around the program, we will be better equipped to prevent and detect and discipline Fraud and Abuse when it occurs. Um, so just important to say that that we are. Walking and chewing gum at the same time here in terms of improving controls and investigating misconduct where those allegations arise. But also important to note that those things are related, there's a causal relationship, and as we improve controls will be better equipped, um, to to deal with misconduct. General Alderman, Lawson. Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman and uh, uh, to our panelists today, I was actually gonna ask about fraud, so thank you for bringing that up. But I'll ask another question about it because, um, as we look at over time over the last now, 5 maybe 4 year reporting years. Have we seen an instance of fraud? Decrease. Or hopefully that increase. That nah, not not. The problem is, you also have a pandemic here, which has some weird stuff there darl. Do you want to comment on that? Great. Um, I cannot specifically thank you, uh, controller. I, I cannot specifically say that we've seen a decrease in fraud, but I can say that what we've seen is a a more concerted effort in reducing and Reporting in identifying the fraud. Uh, we have to use the tools within the statutory program. Uh, we're we're governed by the Illinois, workers compensation act. And what's typical is what someone may consider, fraud may be a symptom, magnification and subjective complaint to a doctor, uh, and that's where a lot of the malingering comes into play for folks that are injured. Maybe they started out the spring, but it it turns into something more. Serious or a protracted time off of work. Uh, those, those things are nuanced in, uh, proving through medical opinion and defraud portion. Uh, isn't as what a Layman May necessarily think is brought that uh, someone is faking an injury. I think that uh, by and large most of our hardworking colleagues are are injured. Uh it's just that something happens while they're off work where they continue to be off work and we have to mitigate that through medical opinion and that uh takes time and uh uh expertise from our medical community. I I also don't want to pass on the question. We'll get you all the proud numbers here to here, right? I will say, part of it also is I don't know how to say this without we've gotten better at figuring out the fraud components. So I think you might It might take a few more years to figure out if we're stabilizing and and and seeing that that actually decreased by having it included. Um but we'll get you, the numbers here and you're out and we'll obviously keep reporting on that. Great. Um, I, I was a little. So the number of 2000 current open clams. I know. It was 1735, I think was the update exempting sworn employees from the corporate front only. So I think we've got about 25,000 corporate fund employees. If there are 10, 12 thousand that are sworn. We're talking about uh, a percentage that's over 10, maybe even pushing 15 of of City Workforce that have open claims, that seems high, uh, to me, who knows nothing about Works comp. Um, so is that sort of uh when we look at our peer cities is that high or is that high compared, you know, to, I know, you know, half of them are office employees, half of them are, are, are more labor? Uh, you know, uh, physical labor, how does that stack up against others? Yeah, great question. Um, so it it's higher than we would like it to be certainly. Um, and we are decreasing in that size. Um, I do think that we, it's a little bit challenging to compare us to, like, a New York, or some of those those entities, but I think it is Higher than than what I would State as an average of a very large city, we are pulling that down, um over time and there's some backlogged items that had to be caught up which was part of the longer item. Um, so I think that would be fair to say that. That's a higher number Daryl. I don't know if you wanted to add anything. Yeah, I do. Uh, and, and you, you are correct. It is, it is a bit higher, uh, than, uh, some of our peer group. But what I will tell you is a lot of the Number is driven by the Aged pending or old claims that were were uh, either improperly closed with statuto with the remaining statutory liabilities uh or uh uh, not the time that the committee on finance had the program, we are working through those claims diligently for outcomes and Expediting uh disposition of those claims uh at a high clip. Uh I do anticipate, I can't commit to a number today but I I I do anticipate that that number will drop and that number will drop and we'll get to our what I would call our flying out altitude of claims. Uh, we have a large uh unfortunately, some of our employees do get injured. Um, but I think 1735 is is still too high and uh, we look for improvements over the years. Maybe this is a better marker. What? How many new claims did we have in 2023? Oh, do you have that off the top of your head? If you yeah. Off the top of my head, I I what I can do is I can get you that number through the chair, if you don't mind. Absolutely. No I I think it's important that we look at, you know, modernizing this program. Uh it was something that no 1 else was doing the way we did. Um and to have some light on there is really really important. The timing of the claim acceptance has gone down um and that their savings their proofs that we did the right thing. So I think everything's on the right track. Let's get that total number down, let's be safer at work too, right? I mean that's that's part of this, right? We you know, we want to if we take the time in the front end, we don't have these these claims in all sorts of different areas of the city, so thank you all. Thank you. Any other questions, uh, seeing none, uh, 1 requests through the chair. I believe that there was a reference to a third-party analysts, uh, who would be doing some subsequent work? Uh, if through the chair, if you could provide an anticipated scope of work and then approximate timeline so that we can keep the committee apprised that would be helpful. And before we go to the last item, just want to, again acknowledge Alderman wages back is great work on this issue. So thank you, um, for helping Shepherd. This process over the last term. Um, and control. I thank you for your time. I know you're busy, uh, off to other things. So, um, with that, we will go to the the next and final item on today's agenda, which is a subject matter hearing regarding the office of Inspector General's, quarterly report for Q2 of 2024 uh General witzburg, if you could just quickly reintroduce yourself and then proceed with your summary. Absolutely. Thank you chairman. Uh, I'm Deborah witzburg. I'm Inspector General for the city, um, and I will talk about our, uh, our quarterly report our Municipal Code, mandated quarterly report for the second quarter. And as I get started, I, I want to reiterate something. I have said, when I've been here to do this before, which is that I sincerely appreciate the committee's invitation, each quarter for the last number of quarters to to come before you and to do exactly this to talk through our quarterly report. I think that is a critically important opportunity to amplify the work that the office is doing. And I just want to reiterate my appreciation for the invitation to do that. If we could just get the screen shared, I'm very sorry that acknowledging. Vice mayor Bernett. Thank you for joining. It's okay, we're happy to have you. Wonderful. Thank you. Um, so I'll start with the overview. Our our quarterly report was published on July 15th. This covers the second quarter of the year, that is to say the quarter that ran through June of this year. And at the beginning of each quarterly report, there's a letter which kind of lays out an overview of of the quarter um, that letter in this report touched on the notion that a thread running through much of the work reported for this quarter. Was that here in city government, the rules do, or at least ought to apply to everybody regardless of their titles. City government, regardless of their relationships with city city employees, and regardless of the amounts of contracts, they may hold that. There is no, there are no City actors, too big to be accountable. Um, some of the work we we did in the quarter, which we'll talk more about here. Had to do with investigations of high ranking City officials and a large dollar contractor, and we know the sentencing of a former Alder person, uh, in a case related to an oig investigation, we also have a A, a matter here that will look at which I highlight both because of its importance. And because as we head into budget season, we're very cognizant of finding those places in city government, where there's wasteful spending where we might recoup dollars, that that could be put to better service, uh, in the interest of Chicagoans. so um, a few kind of statistics on the quarter first from the report, we've talked a bit before about our centralized intake functions over the last couple of years, we have centralized oig's intake function, to ensure that we are. Kind of deploying the best oversight hammer for each nail that comes through the door that where if an intake that we receive is a misconduct complaint. We will look at that through an investigative lens. If we receive something that is a programmatic concern um or a suggestion about how City operations might work better than we. Look at that through an audit or an evaluation lens. In the second quarter we received 4,948 intakes. That is a a significant increase from the first quarter of the year which was 2149 intakes? Um I will say I I generally take Rising intake numbers to be a a good sign. I generally take that to mean not that more is going wrong in city government, but that more more Chicagoans know who we are and what we do and where to find us and that we are hearing more about the things that matter to Chicago. And so I generally take that to be a good, a good sign. Most of those intakes Come To Us by email. We receive them through a variety of other mechanisms as well, some by telephone online portal letter. Um hard mail Etc. We had 239 self-initiated intakes. Oh IG is specifically empowered by our ordinance to self initiate intakes. This number is also significantly higher than it has been in other quarters. That's a product of a number of things including um some of the proactive data analysis efforts that we've talked a bit about before around. Um PPP loan fraud by city employees, as well as campaign Finance oversight, which we'll we'll talk a bit more about Oig's misconduct investigations. We have we had at the end of at the close of the second quarter 201, active misconduct investigations of which 96 had been open more than 12 months, that is up from 92 the quarter before. Uh the subjects of those investigations are are here um 156 investigations have as their subject, a city employee 18, have City elected officials as as subjects 16 have contractors subcontractors or persons seeking contractors as subjects, 3 licenses to appointed officials uh and and 6 others including but not limited to people in entities following into this. Other category would include, for example, members of the public who have bribed a city employee or official enforcement of the ethics ordinance, as it applies to members of the public, is, is fairly new enforcement territory for oig. That is not a type of Ethics enforcement in which we've engaged historically, we have taken that up in the last couple of years. Um, but the notion that City Hall is not for sale and and we ought to enforce all of the rules um to make that clear. And so those are some of the cases which might fall into this other category. The municipal code, um, requires the publication of this quarterly report and it lays out clearly what information may be included about our misconduct investigations. Much of our work is public facing. Um our misconduct investigations however are are confidential by ordinance, for many good reasons, including to protect. Um, those who come forward with concerns and complaints about city government. The municipal code says, we are to publish deified summaries of sustained, misconduct, Alle investigations. That is to say investigations, which reveal sustained findings of misconduct. And so, we've reported 13 sustain administrative investigations in the second quarter. Uh and a selection of them uh are are here. This is not not all of them but but a but a few that I want to highlight, we sustained allegations against a cdph employee, who defrauded, the cha housing Choice, Voucher Program recommended discharge of that employee which which cdph agreed to pursue We investigated a high ranking, fire department, official, who attended the inspection of a property that was owned, uh, by a personal friend. And we found that while the fire department, official did not actually take steps to interfere with the outcome of the inspection, their presence in an apparently, official capacity in their in uniform bearing, Implements of their of their official position gave the appearance, uh, of improper, preferential treatment, undermining public confidence in government. Uh, we recommended discipline and the official was reprimanded by the fire department. We looked at I mentioned high dollar high, high value, uh, contract investigations, we investigated a Department of Water Management contractor who had misrepresented their status as a as a city-based business, whether a business is based in the city confers, a bidding advantage in the city's procurement process. And we found that this contractor had misrepresented that status, that is to say they represented themselves as a city based business, but in fact were not, And they use that misrepresentation to obtain a bidding advantage on infrastructure. Contracts, collectively valued at, more than dollars. Um, we recommended the institution of debarment proceedings, um, which are in process with the Department of procurement services. We sustained. Can you just explain briefly if approved what disbarment would uh entail in the situation like this? A number of different outcomes can come about through dearment proceedings on, on the far end of the spectrum total dearment would render a individual or an entity ineligible for further for for contracts with the city. Um, other penalties on the way to to that outcome can come out of the debarment proceedings as well, for example. Um there might be a, a period of suspension uh where a company might be ineligible for City contracts. Thank you. We sustained allegations against a former high-ranking, police department official. Uh who failed to cooperate with an oig investigation while they were still a city employee. So that is to say they are no longer with the department. They are now a former official but but while employed by the police department in a high-ranking position, failed to cooperate with an oig investigation. Um, We have in recent years taken, I think inappropriately and necessarily aggressive approach to enforcing the duty to cooperate with oig's work. We recommended that CPD refer the former official for placement on the ineligible for rehire list. CBD declined to do so, Uh, we investigated a property owner who attempted to bribe a department of building inspector. That's the kind of case I mentioned, where we have investigated members of the public for violating, the ethics ordinance, the board of Ethics, uh, concurred with the, the finding of the violation and pursuit of 5,000. Fine. And then finally here, by way of selected cases, um, when we, we talked about the notion that that there are no City actors, too big to be accountable. We sustained allegations of misconduct against a former deputy mayor and a former high-ranking employee of the mayor's office, um, who possessed and drank alcohol, and City time um 1 of those. The the high-ranking employee uh, we were told had, gone out during the workday consumed alcohol. Come back to to work and was heard to say that they were too drunk to do interviews, um, of mayoral fellows, and nonetheless proceeded to conduct those interviews with my oral fellows. Um, both of those city employees were off the books. They were no longer city employees by the time, we concluded our investigation, we recommended that they both be placed on the ineligible for rehire list and the mayor's office referred them accordingly for placement on that list. uh, by way of updates on investigations that have been reported in previous quarters, I mentioned that former Alder person, Ed Burke was sentenced to 2 years in prison and 2 million dollars in fines on charges of racketeering and bribery. Uh in a case related to an oig investigation and we report on the filing of a verified complaint against a city contractor named here because there is a public action. There's a, a publicly filed complaint for obstruction of an oig investigation and false statements to the city. Um, I mentioned this to campaign Finance oversight. So there are a couple of avenues in which we are pursuing, proactive data analysis, sort of for lead generation in our our investigative work. So that in addition to our reactive work, when we receive complaints or allegations of misconduct, we are positioned to proactively identify a potential misconduct by City actors. We've talked about our work in that vein with PPP loans before here. I just want to note that we are doing work like that as well. In the campaign, Finance oversight realm, the ethics ordinance. As you all know, uh, lays out requirements for um, who and in what amount contributions can be made to the political campaigns of City officials. Um, and we have we have built data analysis tools, which allow for the proactive identification of potentially uh prohibited contributions. To generate leads which we then investigate. Um, so in the second quarter, we reported on an improper contribution to an elected official by an entity doing business with the Chicago Board of Education. That is 1 of the categories into which a contributor might fall, which would restrict the amount. They are allowed to contribute. So we found that excess funds had been contributed and, and they were returned. The ethics ordinance sets up a cure process by which we notify the elected official who received an improper contribution and the contributor, um, and pursuant to the ethics ordinance, that violation may be cured by The Return of the entire contribution. If the entire contribution was prohibited or any excess amount, the excess funds, here were returned, Um, our Public Safety section. In the second quarter published a follow-up inquiry on cpd's preparedness for Mass Gatherings. So I was before you all to to to talk a bit more about this reporting detail leading up to the DNC. This was an update of sorts on areas of concern, that we identified in a review of the city's response to the protests and unrest that followed the murder of George Floyd in 2020. Um we looked at areas of concern that we had identified, we found some areas of of significant Improvement, some areas of ongoing concern. Um, and I think now with the DNC behind us, uh, it is I I will just note here that the, um, we we sort of meant, what we said here in the title of this report, which is that it was, we looked at preparedness for Mass Gatherings generally and not just the DNC specifically and so, uh, there certainly are implications Beyond that event um for both for improvements, very substantial and and genuine improvements that were made and preparedness as well as opportunities for continued Improvement. Uh, our Public Safety section is charged by the municipal code with the review of closed. Disciplinary cases, that is to say, when the Bureau of internal affairs and Coppa close a disciplinary investigation. It is reviewed by our Public Safety section, um, on a case-by-case basis. Uh, we conduct those reviews for 2 purposes. Pursuant to the code, 1 is to make recommendations to inform and improve future misconduct investigations. The other is to recommend the reopening of Investigations which we find to have deficiencies materially affecting their outcome. So this is not a Monday morning quarterbacking exercise. This is not a question of whether we would have done it differently. This is a legal assessment of of investigative quality and sufficiency so in the second quarter, we we screened 386 closed, disciplinary cases. We conducted an in-depth review of 25 of them during the quarter, we found 3 Copa. Investigations and 3 Bureau of internal affairs investigations that contained deficiencies which we determined to materially affect their outcome. Um similarly here. I I want to Briefly summarize a selection of reportable cases. I will note Reportable cases, do not necessarily appear in the same quarter, where the recommendation is made. That's why the numbers don't necessarily match up exactly. We report the cases publicly after they have kind of come to a final procedural resting place. Um so as to not compromise the the Integrity of the process so selected cases that we reported on in the second quarter. Um the ones I've noted here, all share a theme which is which has to do with the closure of cases at coupa in what Coppa has called its Timeless and initiative. This is a program set up by Coppa to administratively closed certain disciplinary investigations in order to reduce in investigate a backlog of of misconduct investigations Um, so in the first of these, here Copa received allegations, that members of the police department, executed a search warrant at the wrong home. This is certainly an issue which has has been much in in public view since the execution of a search warrant at the home of Internet Young. Um a CPD member in this particular case was heard to say on the scene that this was not the first time and probably would not be the last time that a search warrant was executed at the wrong home Copa. Closed this case administratively in its timeliness initiative. Despite the fact that the kind of program requirements, the program rules of that timeliness initiative. Make um allegations regarding search warrant procurement, or or execution disqualifying. That is to say that copas policies on the program say that they will not use it to close administratively cases involving these allegations. Um, on that basis, we recommended the reopening of this investigation and Coppa declined, Similarly, the second of these cases Copa received allegations that CPD members used excessive force against an arrestee better. SD sustained in sustained injuries, requiring surgery, uh, and settled, a a legal claim with the city for 50,000 dollars Copa closed. That case administratively in its timeliness initiative as well. Despite the fact that another disqualifying category of allegations uh is improper use of force resulting in injury. We recommended that that case be reopened and Coppa declined. In addition to these 2 we report here in the second quarter on 3 edition Copa cases which were in a similar posture, which, which involved allegations, which we determined to be disqualified, foreclosure in the timeliness initiative. Um, Copa decline to reopen each of them I want to talk in a little bit more detail about about 1 other review of a closed, disciplinary case. This is also a matter that has that has been before the council and I hope will be before the council again, having to do with the handling of allegations of extremism against members of the police department. Um, summarized in this quarterly report is the review. We conducted of a bureau of internal affairs, investigation into allegations that 8 CBD members belong to the oathkeepers. um, evidence collected by bia, showed associations between each of the accused members and the oathkeepers, and 3 admitted to having been members of the oathkeepers at sometime in the past. We found 3 material deficiencies in in Baez investigation that, uh, Council for the subject interfered, uh, during their interviews with Bia in violation of the applicable rules and the consent decree, we found that in 1 with respect to 1 subject, a Bia investigator identified a need for an additional interview, but failed to conduct that interview and then finally we found that Baez analysis rested, at least in part on the conclusion. That membership in organizations in itself is not a rule of violation. That analysis is contrary to the plain language of cpd's rules uh and it is contradicted by both cpd's recent practice where where these rules that issue have been used to separate a member for association with the street gang and at odds with cpd's historical practice where the rule at issue rule 2 of the rules of conduct. Um, was used to separate members for associating with the Ku Klux Klan in 1968. Um, our general analysis is that if that rule was good enough for the clan in 1968, it is good enough for the oathkeepers today, Bia declined to reopen this investigation. I want to just highlight in terms of, of a related matter, 1 thing, which, which has been, which we have published, but was not published in this quarter and that's why it's not reflected in the quarterly report just by way of kind of a, a look ahead because the topic is related. We also issued an advisory to the mayor's office regarding, uh, CPD member affiliation with anti-government and extremist groups. And in that product, we identify we we sort of survey the history of uh allegations of extremism within the Chicago Police Department and in law enforcement Nationwide. Um, we look at the way, the Bureau of internal affairs has handled these investigations in recent years and in recognition of the scale and the significance of the problem, where Community Trust in the police department is of such tremendous concern. We recommended that the mayor's office convene, a task force of stakeholders, um, to design, and Implement a whole of government approach to detecting, and eliminating extremism in law enforcement. Um, we, we, we discuss in this advisory things that efforts that are being undertaken in other cities and other law enforcement agencies. Um, none of those may be perfect Solutions. There are Solutions, being implemented or being tried in other places. Um, CPD has, I think the city that is to say, the city has sort of fallen behind the, the national Pace in in addressing this issue. Um, so we recommended that the mayor's office convene a task force, to build a whole of government approach. The mayor's office declined to adopt that recommendation. And in fact declined to commit to any specific action. Uh we report in the in the quarterly on audits follow-ups advisories and notifications that is to say other oversight efforts outside of our investigative work. Um so I'll just note a few of those here. I'd be happy to talk more about any 1 of them that is of particular interest. The first is 1 that that we've been before the committee on, that was a follow-up to our audit, on the department of buildings. Permit, inspection process, we sent a notification to cdph on their recusal policy. Um, this had to do with aligning guidance for, um, inspectors who are out in the field on when they could accept gifts, um, Or I'm sorry when they when they needed to recuse themselves from an inspection apologies, uh we sent a notification to the Department of Finance regarding simultaneous wage and Duty, disability payments. So this is sort of in the category of wasteful spending. We received some complaints and and found some instances in which city employees were simultaneously. Receiving a paycheck and a duty disability check. Um, We talked, uh, a few minutes ago with the Department of Finance about the fact that misconduct is often co-located by a failure in controls. Um, I, I also I think it is. It may also be true that a failure of internal controls can obscure or, or make difficult to identify or prove up misconduct. These are situations where we did not sustain misconduct allegations. We did not find that rules had been broken here. That's either an indication of Goodwill or it's a failure of the rules. But in any event, what we did find was that there were a breakdown in information. Sharing among the parties involved in, in management of Duty, disability, payments, and a lack of clear procedures to detect exactly this problem, where 2 checks were being cut to the same person out of sort of 2, different pockets in city government, um, So we issue this notification to the Department of Finance. The Department of Finance committed to various corrective actions including improved training and, and communication. This is, this is a left hand right hand problem, almost literally, um, which is resulting in, in wasting City dollars. We sent a notification to the city clerk and to the the animal care and control regarding data sharing and a shared access to dog registration data. We sent a notification to CPD regarding the documentation and tracking of seized Vehicles. This arose from a concern about a vehicle being seized by CPD sort of temporarily in a in a way that was not appropriately, documented or tracked, that leaves the city open to all sorts of liability. If something goes wrong with a, with a vehicle while it is, Kind of off the books, in possession of the department, their liability concerns there. They're also accountability problems around around how we know where a piece of property, like a vehicle, might be Um, finally, and perhaps a particular practical utility, uh, here is that we send a notification to the board of Ethics regarding the use of non City, email addresses by city council members, and their staff. We recommended that the board of Ethics clarify, its training for council members and employees. Um, that City email should be used for City business. For purposes of local records, act compliance, and transparency and accountability and so on. Uh and then finally, I will just note that we continue to do the ongoing work of monitoring, the city's employment actions following this. The finding that the city was in substantial compliance with the court order. That was entered in the shackman, litigation the remaining work of ensuring that those rules continue to be followed came to rest within oig. It's in our Compliance Unit within our legal section. That is that is continuous ongoing monitoring work. Which includes but not is not limited to the the efforts listed here where we we have reviewed contracts entered into under the contractor policy, we review senior manager hires, we both audit and monitor hiring sequences across City departments. Um, and where we find irregularities or violations of the city's employment plan, we make notifications and and recommend corrective actions as appropriate. So with that chairman, I'm happy to take any questions. Thank you, I have, uh, 2 lines of questions, myself 1 with regard to the higher ranking, CPD official, who declined to cooperate when that individual was a member of the police department was any, uh, uh, explanation given from the police department in terms of why they would not pursue, uh, placement on the do not hire list. Um there was uh and uh the response from the police department, reflected The View that that would be sort of a an overly harsh step. Um and I believe the response also noted that that subject was not interviewed about their failure to submit to an interview. Okay. Um, next question about the task force recommendation if uh you can explain approximately when that request was made. Um and any indication or explanation as to why that recommendation wasn't accepted. Uh, yes. So uh, we issued that recommendation, um, I believe in April, I can get the exact date. It is on our website. So both our recommendation, and our response is on our website. It was published, uh, in July, I believe it was July 9th, so just after the close of this quarter, that's why it's not reflected in the quarterly report, um, but it is on our website, we published it on July 9th, the response from the mayor's office continues to do. In my view what the mayor's office has done on this issue, which is to say the right thing, which is to articulate a commitment to addressing the issue of extremism and law enforcement. The time has passed during which saying the right thing might be enough here. And and my concern about that response is not that it fails to say the right thing, but that it fails to commit to any concrete action are Beyond what's in. Your your Communications, is there any indication of what steps if any are being taken? Whether it's the mayor's office any other department, including City Council, I'm not aware of any steps that have been taken. Okay, well, understanding that, it sounds like most or all that documentation is public, if you can still share it through the chair. Absolutely. Um, we, we'll share it with committee members and discuss some potential next steps on our end. Absolutely. Thank you. Uh, questions from other committee members someday have ascus and then Alderman Lawson. Yeah. Uh thank you chairman. Um Uh, thank you so much. Inspector whisper for as always, really giving a wealth of information. It's all the work that you're doing. Um, I guess 1 is kind of a process so you're letting us know about um let's say employees who are not former employees. Um you mentioned, kind of a deputy mayor um just for for reference when you're reporting like this quarter is it somebody who the investigation wrapped up and they might have been a prior Administration or is this something where I don't have a sense of how long the investigations are to know, if that's somebody who is currently in this Administration or 1 before it uh, the investigations take longer than anyone wishes they did, is they the short answer um and and I want to sort of steer clear about specific identifying information of subjects, but I will say that, um, We report an investigation in a quarterly after we have concluded the investigation and after our recommendation and Report has gone to the affected department and after they have responded. So not only is there the time that the investigation takes but then departments have at least 30 days extendable to 60 days to respond. And again, only after that has kind of reached its final procedural resting place, do we report it publicly? Um, and with respect to that particular investigation, those employees were already former employees by the time, the investigation concluded and that explains why our recommendation was simply for their referral for placement on the ineligible for rehire list. Got it. Thank you. The reason why I asked that is kind of different administrations have different protocols. So less about Who's in the seat and more about how they operate, right? So if we're seeing that, there's things that could be improved, is it something that the answer might be? Well, that isn't us that ran the protocol, right? So I think I understand the need for, you know, protecting people's identities and such kind of needed for clarity there. Yeah. I I think that's a good question. I frankly think that um the kind of recommendations which are more susceptible to that sort of response are are program and policy recommendations where we're talking about efficiency and Effectiveness and um in every mineral transition I think there's some amount of understandable conversation about the fact that If, if what we are doing, boils down to asking 1 Administration to answer for the decisions of of a of a different 1. That's a that's a hard position to be in when it comes to misconduct investigations. This the rules are the rules um and in that particular case, for example the city's drug and alcohol policy was no different under the last Administration than this 1 know and I appreciate it obviously for something like that. It's Crystal Clear uh so much so that it's mind-boggling that that was even a thing that occurred in government. So uh thank you for that, I think. Um, chairman Martin kind of asked a lot of the questions, I had related to the city's response when it came to oathkeepers. I mean, there's something we've been raising up time and time again from last term of this term. Uh, it's ex absolutely unacceptable to have members of the police department, who might be part of extremist groups. And the fact that it's such a Challenge to get people to do. What's clearly the right thing in a situation like this is just really disappointing. So I know you mentioned that the response is on the portal is that the direct response that you received from them or your interpretation or sharing, what they responded, the former we we published the mayor's office response as we received it. Okay. I I appreciate that because I think there's a number of us myself. Alteristic Joe Lopez who've been raising this issue up, as far as the old Keepers, you know, we had 1 of the officers that was in the 40th. Ward is related to some of these investigations that I guess you our work will also continue to make sure there is some level of accountability here because people do lose faith in the institutions when we don't clean out, uh, the kind of cancers that shouldn't be there in the first place. So, uh, thank you for your information and thank you, chairman. I, if I could just respond very quickly, I will say all of us because I I agree. We cannot ask people to trust a police department which allows its members to to dabble in extremism. Um, a year or so ago, held a hearing in his committee on some of these issues and I I will say I thought that was a very productive and important exercise. exercise. Um, in terms of asking actors and city government to, to sort of answer for their um, their responses on this this issue. I I would welcome further legislative oversight on this issue. I thought that was an important and valuable exercise. Thank you, General. Uh, Alderman Lawson and then Alderman, tally Farrell Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I'll just Echo that. If Richard J Daly, can deal with the clan in the 60s. We should be able to deal with extremism here. Uh here. And now uh I think that's pretty uh, disappointing to hear that. That nothing has happened and, and maybe we need to look at what we can do. As a city council, um, if uh, if we need our own task force to look at this, uh, because it seems that that we all We all know this is something that needs to be taken care of. Um, a couple other things. I just wanted to mention real quick so I have taken every training you can think of of in the last couple weeks, um, and nowhere, does it mention being fit for work? Um, when it comes to being of sober, mind and body, perhaps, and, um, maybe we just need to add that. Um, you know, it's the 1 question, it's the 1 T, it should be a no-brainer. As my colleague said, however, for all of the things that I think are covered may. Maybe the maybe that's to pass on to Steve Berlin, but but, um, it's certainly embarrassing to see that in any ranks. If it was my office, if it's the mayor's office if it's your office. So um, something that we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard to certainly. Um, I'm a little concerned about the timeliness initiative from kopa because it seems like it's an excuse to just have cases, go away. I'm going to assume these are not the most serious of violators but maybe I shouldn't. Because if you're looking at them again, they they're they're serious enough that, um, you know, they've been sustained in a certain level that they require examination Maybe just to speak to this initiative, is this something we should be talking to Coppa about with this office or with uh, our Public Safety police and fire committees? I appreciate the question. Um we will have more to say about the timeliness initiative from an oversight perspective because I agree with you, it certainly has some concerning features in terms of how it might be used, what's impact might be um, The notion that these are not the most serious offenders or not. The most serious cases is, is the principle that should be served by certain categories, of cases, being ineligible foreclosure, under this program. Um, so when we talk about the fact that the the policy principles identify, these certain categories of cases, as ineligible, that's the purpose that should serve, right? Where we say, we're not going to use this program to close cases of, you know, where there's alleged improper, uh, use of force resulting in injuries or sexual misconduct, or search warrant execution. Gone wrong Etc. That's exactly why we highlight this problem in these case reviews because if we are, if the program is not being sort of held to to that, Standard in a rigorous way. Then then we might have very serious cases that are, that are sort of Falling by the wayside and then in terms of of serious offenders or repeat violators of the rules, um, if cases are being improperly closed short of an investigative finding then people who receive repeated successive allegations are never going to build the kind of disciplinary history, which would permit Progressive discipline and which would feed the sort of risk analysis that's mandated for example, by the consent decree in the risk intervention program. Right now that's that's helpful to know. Um I'll just make make 1 of the question you mentioned. Um the work has done, done, your work is controlled by ordinance. We've had a lot of discussion about what is an exit executive order and how that can be or not being enforced by the city. I'm assuming you guys have no control over executive orders as well. Uh, correct, right. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Chairman Thank you Alderman. Tia Farrell. Good. Thank you. Um, I just, I just wanted to follow up on. A comment to a question that was asked by my colleague uh with regard to our police engagement and involvement, um, in extremist organizational. What's What's um assumed to be extremely this organization? Um, are you running into any constitutional issues with regard to their being able to join that? Or um, does public policy outweigh once constitutional rights under those circumstances? That is sort of the critical animating question not just in Chicago but across the country in efforts to combat extremism. In law enforcement is how we do that effectively while appropriately respecting the First Amendment rights of, of public employees. What I will say, um, is that those are that is a question that is being reckoned with in in other cities and at the federal level, um, and that the city of Chicago has not kept pace with those efforts being undertaken in other places to to to address this issue even in a way which is appropriately. Respectful of First Amendment rights and I'll I'll highlight a couple of things. 1 is that some of the efforts being undertaken, in other cities by other departments are in areas like, uh, hiring processes like approach. What what kind of screening can and should be done at the interview phase, uh, training for supervisors, how people should detect and identify what behavior is is over a line. Um, So that that's sort of there are there are those efforts out there which other cities have implemented with some amount of success, which is no guarantee that they survived every constitutional challenge. But I do think it suggests that there are some wheels that are being invented in some places. The other thing I will say that we highlight in The Advisory that I think is important just in terms of kind of perspective setting um, in 2021, uh, the the major City Chiefs Association which is an international uh, sort of trade group of police Executives. As, you know, issued a statement on extremism and law enforcement which Directly addressed. This question of how we hold Law Enforcement Officers? Accountable for association with extremist groups while appropriately, respecting First Amendment rights. Um, major City Chiefs issued a very clear statement on the principle that those entrusted in positions of public service should be held to appropriate standards, including in the groups and principles with which they associate. Um, there were Uh, more than 4, dozen signatories to that public statement from major City Chiefs, the Chicago Police Department, is a member of the major City Chiefs, but was not among the 4 dozen departments which signed on to that statement. Can you send that to us through the chair? My apologies for, uh, the interruption that is in the advisory. Absolutely, I will send that as well. Thank you. So have you made recommendations to either the ccpsa or the police department to Uh, at least begin the process of considering policy. That really was the spirit of this advisory to the mayor's office and and this is a good and important question. Because we make this recommendation to the mayor's office and not to the police department. We've made many successive recommendations as, you know, to the police department on individual disciplinary investigations, Are sending this recommendation to the mayor's office was a recognition of the fact that this is not a problem, which should be left to CPD to solve on its own. But because there are implications in budgeting and hiring and training Etc, a a meaningful whole of government solution would necessarily include the department of human resources and the Office of Public Safety Administration, and Coppa, and any number of other stakeholders within and without city government Thank you. Bye. Thank you. Any other questions? Seeing none and there being no further business before this committee. Well, first of all, uh, thank you General as always uh for your insights. Um uh, can I get a motion to adjourn? Alderman Vasquez, so moves all those in favor signify by saying, I all those opposed say no in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it. The meeting is adjourned. Thank you, thank you.